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FriendFeed Feedback: Jigar Mehta posted a message
“Friendfeed should incorporate themes for personalized FF page (so that it looks somewhat professional..) I am thinking to put my FF personalized page URL in professional signature!”
June 12 at 10:48 am - Link
yes! profile and personalization are top of my list - Dieter Schwarz
I have been comparing friendfeed and tumblr. I think on most points, friendfeed much scores better. Ease of use, features. But tumblr wins on lay-out, the possibility to choose and change themes. - Peter
Friendfeed has a nice API. Grab your data and display it on your own site so that it looks "professional." - Erica Baker
ssh! there may be people among us working on such personalized,online identity and personal content management site creators based on friendfeed aggregator. - Selem
Erica, not everyone's an uber-geek :). Non-geeky friendfeed fans should, IMHO, be able to set up myfeed.thedomain.com, or even namefeed.com or whatever to display their friendfeed stream. - Adam Lasnik
FriendFeed
Paul Buchheit posted a link
One final fixit: Rooms now have search
June 11 at 2:20 am - Link
If only Galactica had search... :) - Paul Buchheit
Great! - K.D.
I'm sure many would be interested in what FF search platform looks like, given your collective background. If you can share it, that is. - Ray Grieselhuber
WoW excellent - Farzad
frackin sweet - grant
If Galactica had search, could it find Earth? - Mark Dykeman
I guess Galactica doesn't have The Google either. - Jason Kaneshiro
I want to do the same search in Battlestar Galactica room. - ahmet bulent
How can I join a public room if I am not invited? - ahmet bulent
Found it. You have to search for it, but there is no search for rooms. I realized there is no easy way to join rooms like a link in "rooms" tab or "rooms directory". - ahmet bulent
Am I confused? Can you set up feeds to power a room? All I see is posting individual items to a room. - bill giltner
bill: right now, you can only post directly to rooms. - Bret Taylor
this is cool - Loic Le Meur via twhirl
thank you :-) - Alex Williams
FriendFeed
June 9 at 2:59 pm - Link
Thanks again everyone. See you next event :) - MG Siegler
Was hoping for an iTablet. Macbook Air without the keyboard. - Chris White
one day chris, one day... - MG Siegler
Blog
Bwana McCall posted an entry on Bwana.org
June 5 at 8:59 am - Link
I really hope one of the bigger blogs does this. - Bwana McCall
MacRumors Live has always done a great job the last few years. Combined with Engadget, there's little to be missed. - Louis Gray
Engadget coverage is great! - Alex Sauceda
Has anybody created any room for this yet? - Jigar Mehta
Every year I revert to IRC since the websites continue to have issues. Macrumors has done the best to adapt, but they are generally 15-30 minutes behind which is a lifetime during a keynote. - Bwana McCall
Please do this... I will watch... I promise... - Mike Wills
Ryan Block just commented that someone has squatted the Engadget room name and the FriendFeed guys haven't responded yet. He is however considering it - Bwana McCall
Bwana, The one thing I am trying to figure out with the room I have created for next weeks Enterprise 2.0 conference is how do you get all the conversation into One room or a couple of rooms so that the conversation is not fractured ala Twitter? What if for WWDC next Monday 20 rooms were created for the conference. Would not prefer that activity take place in one room.... - OnDemand Beat
Great idea. We'll see if it holds up better than Twitter. - Daniel Shaw
Ameed, it's going to happen even if you did it the traditional way. For example, each Apple Keynote with Steve Jobs generally tends to have several journalistic/blogging outfits liveblogging: MacRumors, Gizmodo, Engadget, MacWorld, et al. To get a good discussion, however, you need to have someone with some authority on the subject doing it: I'm sure there are dozens of others liveblogging the events, but those 4 get most of the traffic because they have an established reader base. - Mark Trapp
Which is why it's pretty cool that Ryan Block was considering Friendfeed: he would bring with him much of Engadget's readerbase. Edit: Looks like Friendfeed is giving the room to Ryan and Engadget: awesome. - Mark Trapp
Isn't this a risk to have load that should be handled by the websites rather than a shared tool like this one? I mean the big websites you cite can handle this load during events like keynotes on their own blog... it's after all the concept of "I produce - You consume" - directeur
I've started a FriendFeed room called "Stevenote". It's public to encourage reporting-discussion-analysis, though I'd consider making it semi-public and co-administered if a top-tier personality wanted to liveblog directly in this room. For now, there are some links of interest for WWDC 2008, including links for major liveblogging sites. Feel free to add to it... http://friendfeed.com/rooms/st... - £ogical €xtremes
I'll be sure to check it out Logical Extremes - Bwana McCall
@bwana - you bet. it's going to be a lot of fun i think and a really good way to spread the info quickly -- and of course have a conversation about it! - MG Siegler
I think that will be the biggest benefit of using the FF rooms for big conferences and events. Discussions can pop up around individual pieces of news as they occur. Can't do that with an enormous live-blog post (at least not easily). - Nathaniel Payne
FriendFeed
Steve Rubel posted a message
“I now spend more time on Friendfeed than any other site. ”
June 6 at 12:38 pm - Link
I went from thinking that FriendFeed was a rather boring looking link overload to having it be my #1 site as well. Took about 72 hours. The potential here is really intoxicating. - Steve Isaacs
Are there any third-party clients for FriendFeed yet? - Stephen
Only Google rivals Friendfeed for my time and attention. - Steve Rubel
same here. - Thomas Hawk
Twhirl does FriendFeed now: http://www.twhirl.org/ - Steve Isaacs
me too - Jason Kaneshiro
Try using rescuetime.com and you can actually measure this. Really cool data result. - Christopher Sacca
it is my homepage... but I find I use twitter to feed it still. btw rescuetime.com asks for a credit card. f#(% that... please don't promote that here. talk about a waste of time. like a dumb ass I del.icio.used it before realizing it was a piece of shit - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ
Its going that way - need more noise - Roberto "Maverick" Bonini
Rescuetime does not ask for a credit card unless you are buying it for your enterprise. The personal version is entirely free. - Christopher Sacca
facebook is so long to upload with all the apps, friendsfeed is so quick and useful… Look like that between myspace/facebook/google battle, herecome the Outsider Friendsfeed, so exiting, it will relaunch web 2.0 sites - Marc Dahan
So does Alert Thingy - Michael VanDervort via fftogo
yeah, it's either friendfeed or google reader, both are impossible. so I'm switching between the two. - Bearded_Dave
FF totally replaced Twitter for me today - Rafe Needleman
True dat. - Aaron Myers
Yes, now the name of the game is apparently being the preferred intermediary to Friendfeed and other social aggregators. For me, it's http://twhirl.org which fronts end both services I care about most (FF & Twitter>) - Dion Hinchcliffe via twhirl
I'm not looking for a site on which to spend more time; I'm looking for one that aggregates what I need to know in one spot. - Francine Hardaway
I like FF a lot. Twhirl is slightly hardert to use for some reason. - Michael VanDervort
There is a client for FriendFeed. Check out AlertThingy. http://alertthingy.com/ - John F Morton
How do people using FF deal with Twitter friends who aren't on FF? Read both? I see there are "imaginary" friends, but does that mean manually importing and updating your Twitter friends on FF? - Greg Beck
Best way to deal with FriendFeed is through the browser. The clients make it seem more cluttery. - David Risley
Nothing beats using the browser. Clients are slow and sometimes unresponsive. - Winston Teo
oddly David you are right, but if you'd asked me a month ago I would have disagreed. For some reason FF works better on the web where as Twitter is via desktop client - Duncan Riley
yesh, i hope there's a google search box.. I also installed duncan's script - Raymond
Me too, its my start page and clients do suck, btw is the friendfeed air client done? - Kyle Weller
I spend much more time on Google Reader than Friendfeed because of superior signal to noise. - Sean McBride
me too.. - Tim FitzGerald
I am baffled as to why anyone would think that Friendfeed is remotely competitive with Google Reader for processing highly strategic cutting edge information in a slick and efficient way. The potential is there, I can see that, but actualizing the potential is going to require a great deal of smart code and ranking algorithms. Also, am I the only one bothered by this "forum" interface? It's like trying to play Rachmaninoff on the piano while wearing boxing gloves. - Sean McBride
I think Reader and FriendFeed are useful for entirely different reasons. I use Reader for aggregation on news source and research material for those areas I track. FF enhances that information stream by personalizing some topics, and by giving me an entirely different personal stream . I often have both open and click back and forth betweem them. - Michael VanDervort
@MichaelVanDervort: I use Google Reader not only to aggregate high quality news, research and discussion, but to PRIORITIZE it. With GR I get a continuous stream of intensely concentrated strategic information. So far, after fiddling with all of FF's options, I have not been able to duplicate that experience here. Also, it is easy to use GR in tandem with Yahoo Groups, which provides much more powerful tools for in-depth forum discussions than is available in the current iteration of Friendfeed. - Sean McBride
FF may not be Reader, but it still retains that element of subscribing to others. And yes, FF could be Digg or google News, but its besides the point. GF is Reader in steroids because not only do we subscribe, but we comment, like and manage the noise interactively- none of which Reader does. And we wouldn't want it to since Reader is excellent at what it does. - Roberto "Maverick" Bonini
Just about every time I visit FriendFeed there is another piece of brain candy to consume (or, more applicable perhaps, subsume). I haven't had this much enjoyment since the web started up. - Shout out 2Jody
I have limited time to spend on these things every day. I find I indeed am spending a lot less of that time on TechMeme and Google Reader lately and a lot more of that time on FriendFeed. I still use the other two, so they are still important, but I have cut way back. - Robert Scoble
To RS: and where, amidst the flood of tweets, does one find time to mull over carefully constructed books, dissertations, journal articles, conference papers, patents and the like, and think visionary thoughts? - Sean McBride
You know, I'm complaining about certain issues with Friendfeed, but I'm here, I'm hooked, I feel the gravitational pull of the thing. Something important is happening here. - Sean McBride
I have a tough time deciding where to spend time - My Google Reader or Friendfeed - Kapil
True - I'm the same, within 2 days I've converted from reader to friendfeed. I like it a lot! - Richard Bradshaw
FriendFeed
Paul Buchheit posted a link
FriendFeed Blog: New features for your FriendFeed rooms
FriendFeed Blog: New features for your FriendFeed rooms
FriendFeed Blog: New features for your FriendFeed rooms
June 4 at 7:34 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
multi admins FTW! - shaun mclane
Very nice! I can think of multiple ways to use the Semi-Public rooms. Namely, for live blogging!!! - Bwana McCall
Good stuff, guys. - Nathaniel Payne
sounds like a blog! neat. - Karl
This is a great addition. - Tsega Dinka
friendfeed just keeps adding cooler and cooler settings and very solid implementations. - Chris Harris
Awesome! - Evan Sims
I wonder how many existing rooms are going to go semi-public. - J·Phil·Glockner
Can a comment deletion be undone? When a comment is deleted is there anything left in its place? A "xxxx's comment deleted by yyyyy" Knowing that a comment was deleted and by whom is important for the other people in thread. It can also be used to hold the commenter and moderator accountable. - Kevin D. White
Kevin, we used to leave comment "tombstones", but they caused more trouble than good. - Paul Buchheit
I agree Bwana - Live Blogging would be a great use of Semi-Public rooms..Plan to try out Live Blogging next week at Enterprise 2.0 conference with the http://tinyurl.com/3kj27h room so lets see how it works:) - OnDemand Beat
Kevin, I can answer that. No placeholder is created, for the commenter or the conversation owner. Comments that are 'moderated out' simply vanish. - J·Phil·Glockner
Ameed - I'm interested in following that experiment! - J·Phil·Glockner
gotta take a minute to grok this. it sounds really interesting. still haven't dipped my toe into the rooms yet... - Kamilah Gill
Nice! Definitely agree with the semi-public interface being perfect for live blogging. - Jeremy Felt
made my room semi pvt :)- yeah it was pvt mode earlier !! Not sure how the comments mngt system works in rooms with semi pvt. Paul, I think info is needed on the comments mngt - what are the use cases ? After managing my various groups on Google, I can see a more robust paradigm shift happening with Rooms- as anyone can commen. Tthat is, no need to join. No membership required- correct ?This means as admin of a room, my audience could be a once by fly over user. In short, the Long tail in effect - Peter Dawson
the point in making for my above statement is simple. In Ggroups these two parameters are constraints -" Who can join?" Who can post messages? , whereas with SemiPvtRooms there is NO user action to join a room- just fly by and comment. Is my understaning correct ? can this be clarified by the FF team ? - Peter Dawson
Can people in semi-public rooms throw eggs or cream pies at the admins? This would extend the metaphor of real life rooms where people are supposed to just listen to the speaker(s), but sometimes things get out of hand. - Brian Johns
Paul & J. Phil - Thanks for the info on the effect of comment deletion. - Kevin D. White
Great Improvement - thank you! this will be interesting to see how folks utilize this!! :) - Susan Beebe
Peter, there is no way to pre-filter who can join a room if that is what you're asking. However, once a user joins a semi-public room they can comment. You do have the option to delete them from the room if you would like to remove their commenting ability. - Ross Miller
Blog
Bret Taylor posted an entry on FriendFeed Blog
June 10 at 10:56 pm - Link
Among other things, we added support for five more services. You can now add Intense Debate, brightkite.com, Diigo, Mister Wong, and tipjoy to your feed. - Bret Taylor
Diigo added - nice. - Hutch Carpenter
These are nice additions. Keep up the good work, FF folks! - Mikko Alasaarela via twhirl
bah. Still max 300 entries (i.e. 11th page bug) - good fixes, nonetheless, thanks! :) - Tim Hoeck
Great stuff indeed. - Tsega Dinka
Excellent enhancements. - Mike Fruchter
Tim: If you use "num=100", you can see entries #300-399. Also, "search by service" will allow you to go deeper... - Mitchell Tsai
i likes the new features - Tyler Gillies via twhirl
very good job. i love you guys! - Tyler Gillies
Yay for Diigo! - Michael C. Harris
tried to import my Mister Wong account, but an error message appeared: We could not find given account. - Baard Overgaard Hansen
Baard, what is the url of your Mister Wong page? - Paul Buchheit
"When you send a Twitter from a FriendFeed comment, we suppress the Twitter entry from your FriendFeed home page so you don't see as many duplicates." Fantastic. Thank you! - Cyvros/fyc
Yep, suppressing the twitter entry for a comment tweet is an excellent move - Colin Walker via fftogo
Excellent work, and great additions as well! - Joe Dawson
I'm looking forward to working with the newly formatted RSS. It was a pain before. - Duncan Riley
Nice, might give FF some more traction in Germany, as Mister Wong is rather popular here. - Thomas Frütel
if you guys did this all in one day, then I am supremely impressed. :) - Lou Paglia
Thanks for adding Intense Debate..you guys made my month. Also, the feeds are so much better now!! - Bwana McCall
"The given URL does not appear to be a Intense Debate profile page" nooo - Shey
Thanks for adding brightkite, now if Duncan can add a new script to have brightkite show up in my friendfeed window. - Jon Erickson via twhirl
I really like that FF can spend time fixing bugs and adding small features instead of spending continuous effort trying to keep the service running for more than 5 minutes (and mostly failing it seems) - Brian Sullivan
Hmmm, your profile is coming up fine for me Shey.. weird - Bwana McCall
sphinn.com has about 20,000 members who'd like to be supported, Bret. last I asked FF, you all said you weren't adding more services. Now you are. C'mon, show us some love over there. - dannysullivan
@Bwana yes my page is working but it was FF that gave me that error - Shey
@Shey Oh..well...darn....that sucks. Maybe it's the initial rush and ID is crapping out somehow on their end.. I added mine yesterday when hardly anyone knew.. :( - Bwana McCall
I'm with Danny, I would love to see Sphinn on FF! If I could get them added, I would be able to be more active in the sphinn community. - Mark Frost via twhirl
@Danny, you can add your Sphinn activity to FF by importing it as your "blog." Importing a Sphinn feed like http://sphinn.com/rss/user/dan... will show everything on FF that the Sphinn feed shows. As Sphinn's feed capabilities grow, so will the Sphinn presence on FF. (Not exactly addressing your point of being ignored, but it is a partial workaround.) - Erik Dafforn
Danny, what are all the relevant Sphinn feeds? I can take a look at adding the service. Also, if the content is right (no "16 Vote(s)", comments should include the comment, etc), then they can be imported as comments here, just as with Mixx, Reddit, etc. - Paul Buchheit
Amazing. - Aaron Myers
Can we add Toluu? I would like to keep track of interesting new feeds peeps are adding - Dom
Baard, try again -- Mister Wong should now be fixed. - Paul Buchheit
congrats, but as i've been blogging and otherwise messaging, you really need to focus on the features over the new sites... commenting = broken. liking = meh. etc. - Jeremy Toeman
Thanks for all the hard work FF team!! neat improvements, fixes and tweaks! =) - Susan Beebe
thanks, Paul. Mister Wing is now working :-) - Baard Overgaard Hansen
Thanks. The Diigo add is mucho appreciated. - Bill Bittner
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Bret Taylor posted an entry on FriendFeed Blog
June 5 at 11:46 pm - Link
Totally cool! This is exactly what I wanted! Thank you! Will give feedback on it after I have a few day's experience with it. - Robert Scoble
Love it. I'd also love to be able to see only the items added since I last checked Friendfeed. - Ranjit Mathoda
cool beans. - Anthony Citrano
Helps a lot. Thanks. Easier to keep updated on the stuff that matters to me. - Alex Williams
Very cool Bret. - Hutch Carpenter
Very nice. - Atul Arora
Very nice, indeed - Michael W. May
Thanks. - Amund Tveit
Very nice addition. Keep em coming. - Tsega Dinka
We definitely want feedback. I literally had six versions of the algorithm running in parallel, and this is the best one according to our qualitative assessment, but we need more data to really improve it. Let me know if you see too much of something or missed something you think is important - it will help me debug quality issues. - Bret Taylor
@scobleizer: It also does a bit of what you want for individual services as well. Here are the best Twitters from the past day: http://friendfeed.com/summary?.... Click the service icons to restrict the "best of" view to a single service. It doesn't let you send the link out to anyone since it is entirely personalized, nor is it the generalized search interface you described, but it is a step in that direction. - Bret Taylor
Also looks like the date can go from 1 thru 30. greater than 30 reverts to 30 - Atul Arora
Bret: that's very cool. It's amazing how few things I actually have missed. But, this will be useful to check in on. One thing I do wish it had was "big things since last time you were here." - Robert Scoble
Next? I'd love to have a way to see a true reverse-chronological view of the "Everyone" feed, but let me filter by "n" Likes and "n" Comments. - Robert Scoble
How about, do a time stamp of the last time Robert logged in, and every hour afterward, do a screen capture of every single update from everybody he follows, save it as a massive PDF file, and send it to him via e-mail attachment. Repeat every 60 minutes. - Louis Gray
@Louis Gray: That'll make FF go twitter! - Yuvi
interesting idea - Steven Hodson
uh-oh.. going 'twitter' is launching as an idiom.. - sedgewick
Awesome idea Bret. Hey, we'd be honored if you could speak at FOWA this year (http://futureofwebapps.com). Interested? - Ryan Carson
perfect! now i only need to convince most of my friends to update their webbrowse behavior. most of them still didnt make the jump too rss and sharing is done mostly by skype :( - krz9000
Great addition. I'd also like to see it applicable at the individual user level. - Mark Krynsky
Been really looking forward to this since seeing it mentioned on "The Dan Farber Show"! In typical FF style, great feature with simple, clear implementation. Yummy! - Matt Harwood
This is very cool. As soon as they provide an Atom feed of this, it'll be the most kickass service ever. - Eric Florenzano
hmmm, this is my top post. Nice one - Andrew Smith
This is a great addition, shows that they are listening to what people want! - Joe Dawson
Oh, now see, this is just awesome. - Vince DeGeorge
Can we get a favorite button for stuff like this :) - Rob Diana
They should call it A-list juice - Jamie
Thanks, I appreciate this feature. - Daniel Backhaus
I want a feed for this feature! - Marcus Puchmayer
Very nice feature, for me, given the addiction, I suspect the "day" one will be the most used to make sure I didn't miss anything good. :) - felix
Bret: Yeah!! Great feature!! I've been waiting for this one! woo hoo! :) - Susan Beebe
Feedback: 1-day, 3-day, and 7-day look pretty good. 14-day and 30-day summaries seem swamped by the last 7 days (Maybe searches in 10-30-days should have older items weighted heavier than in 1-3-7 day summaries). Awesome! This really helps with the "Page 11" (Search past #300-399 fails design). My Friends feed (of 149 people) only goes back about 4 hrs. Everything past that is lost... Wish my regular Friends feed would save 24+ hrs. Nice job Bret! - Mitchell Tsai
Thanks, Bret! That's why we love friendfeed :) - Kenichi Matsumoto
ooh, what's this? ok, same thing I already talked about. awesome! - Kamilah Gill
Bret, you are an absolute genius. Every time I hear you speak (or write) I am just more and more impressed. - Alex Hammer
Search by service for Top 100 YouTube pictures, Blog articles, Google Reader/Del.icio.us articles, Last.fm songs... We can search for "&service=picasa&num=100", "&service=flickr", "&service=blog", "&service=googlereader","&service=delicious" See http://friendfeed.com/e/34f7f6... for multiple Top 100 searches from the past 1-2-3-7-14-30 days. - Mitchell Tsai
Search for best 100 articles from past day with "&num=100" See http://friendfeed.com/e/b4029e... - Mitchell Tsai
Thank you! Arigatou gozaimasu! - Mike Reynolds
Excellent - Jason Kaneshiro
Well, I must say it works! I've already found three things I had missed this week and really interest me. - Andrés David Aparicio
wow, that's actually kinda...useful! - Sarah Perez
This could prove beneficial, what is the algorithm they are using? - Chris
My guess would be comments and likes - Bwana McCall
Hmm.. And this is the first item in my personalized recommendations? I guess it works :) - Dimitri Glazkov
What's very VERY cool is that service filters work with this as well http://friendfeed.com/e/02adb6.... EDIT: I just saw Mitchell already posted this feature. I should have known, he's always on top of these things :) - Bwana McCall
Awesome! - Daniel Spradau
Nice, that was the thing to do. I hope to get something like that for Twitter and I think it's still possible to make. - fbrunel
I bet FF hires Mitchell to code up queries!! LOL good stuff here Bret & Mitchell!! - Susan Beebe
@Bret: I'm sad you don't support APML. - directeur
Susan: I'm just too lazy (and retired May 2007). Now I code in Excel & FriendFeed (rather than Fortran 66 & Cobol). I just bookmark my own FriendFeed posts in Safari & Firefox rather than make too many Safari bookmark-sub-menus. Getting too lazy to write HTML or LAMP. ;-) Headed to Yosemite in a few days after the Harmony Festival this weekend - Robert Scoble's Ansel Adams visit was too tempting :0) - Mitchell Tsai
Awaiting for more kick-ass features from FF! Great work! - Winston Teo
This is great Bret. FF keeps getting better. - Michael Carter
great addition to the functionality! - Jeroen De Miranda
Hmmm. If the list of most popular posts contains only posts which I have liked, commented on or clicked through, does that make me the most popular friendfeeder ever? ;-) - Slippy Lane
Are there plans to extend "best of" to FF rooms? Depending on the number of members and activity, that could be really interesting. - Tom Landini
This is so incredibly awesome. FriendFeed just returned to the same level of utility (for my usage patterns) as before the launch / noise onslaught. :-) - Kevin Scott
awesome, thats useful! now i need direct messages, go one - Alexander Oelling
Bret Taylor is amazing! - Alex Hammer
I find it interesting on how this feature is at the top of "best of the month." Seems kinda pointless. - possible248
Finally back on a full computer after a nearly two-week absence (no, I didn't go to Peru, I went to Alabama). Looks nice. - Ontario Emperor
Great addition! Next feature request: let me filter by people I really know vs. people I just like to follow so I can see what my "real" friends are doing at a glance. - Dave Hanson
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michael arrington posted an entry on TechCrunch
June 6 at 12:19 am - Link
Come on in, Arrington...the water's fine! - Trent Olson
Trent: Arrington doesn't even use Firefox 3.0 (he admitted such tonight). Why do we want him here? - Robert Scoble
Yes!..Mike will come along with time as FriendFeed becomes the place to be. Its called the resistance trap of the first impression - Joao
Robert: yeah, I saw the post about Arrington not using FF3...what the heck does he use, then? FF2 has become unusable...Safari? Not IE...that would shatter my faith in you A-Listers... - Trent Olson
Would be nice to get an RSS feed of these summaries. - Yuval Atzmon
This is really cool feature.... FFmeme ? - Kevin
@Robert I like your response on Arrington's article about the lost database! - Joe Dawson
Kevin, according to Paul and Bret, it's based on your own subscription list, so it's personalized and a bit different than Techmeme. - Mark Trapp
@Kevin - I created a FFmeme "room" on day 1 of the "room" feature as I knew this day would finally come! ha, ha!! http://friendfeed.com/rooms/fr... - Susan Beebe
Arrington is getting technically *slow* !!! Doesn't seem quite as tech savvy as he once was? hmm why? and he's STILL not in FriendFeed actively? c'mon Mike, the water is fine! Hey do you remember the Borg on StarTrek? "Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated." ;-) - Susan Beebe
I love how the top 4 "best" stories on my Friendfeed are about this new FriendFeed feature. Echo chamber. - Erick Schonfeld
Erick -- I noticed the same thing :-) - mathew ingram
Dont necessarily believe the stuff about Michael. He would have said that to upset the Mozilla people. He recommended it to me, I've seen him using it, and he's even written publicly that he uses it...indeed it was FF3 that made him switch from Flock. - Duncan Riley
@Duncan - ok that makes way more sense... I always had the *perception* that Arrington was an early adopter, so hearing he was on FF 2 didn't make sense. Thx! - Susan Beebe
See "Search for best 100 articles from the last day (or 2 days, 3 days...)" http://friendfeed.com/e/b4029e... using "num=100". I'm finding the 100-item search much more interesting than the regular 30-item search. - Mitchell Tsai
Arrington is drinking the same koolaid as Scoble now, it's in the air, it's in the water, it's everywhere - Bob Ngu
Watch out. - Jason Kaneshiro
I do not want Arrington on FF. He is a Flaming Troll. - Igor The Troll
Great product positioning! The addiction of having to read FF would only get worse. - Winston Teo
Igor The Troll : hide him... oh wait, you can't - directeur
How can we hide Michael the Troll if we Trolling him? LOL - Igor The Troll
I see a motion picture in the making! "The Revenge of the Trolls" Starting Michael Arrington playing himself as a Flamming Troll. Will definitively win an Oscar! Ok, here is the plot. All the people who read his blog for years turn into Trolls and eat Michael Alive. LOL - Igor The Troll
I'm using Safari. and I love it. Where is the "Blame Arrington" script. Why does Scoble get all the love? I say we go medevil on all the Alist. Equal opportunity sodomy for all social pests. Twitter Killers. feed them to the dogs. - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ
"Interestingness Filter"... Even if you put a total crap online Arrington their algorithm will still think that it's interesting. I know you won't even read what I'm writing (too "shy" to share with individuals of your kind?) but the fact is it doesn't filter on Interestingness, it does on popularity and this is VERY different. Hear me? Very different :) - directeur
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Nicole Simon posted an entry on cruel to be kind
June 9 at 3:37 am - Link
This is a feature I would love to see in Wiki editors - albeit in a slightly modified form: I would like to get suggestions for links as I type. It is no big deal, as in the Wiki there are canonical references to concepts. - Lars Trieloff
I am trying to get tool makers like zemanta to do this, because f.e. zemanta already has what auto linking only barely does: give me more than one option around it. i expect that by 2020 I will be able to have better tools to help me get more productive. ;) - Nicole Simon
I am thinking of auto-linking and automatic context providers like Zemanta as different categories. Auto-linking should point to the "right thing" automatically. Of course this only works when there is a glossary (either a real one, or the links you have been using before). Zemanta gives you additional input. Other examples of context generators are the Gnome Dashboard (this concept is already five years old, so your 2020-guess might be a bit optimistic) http://nat.org/dashboard/ - Lars Trieloff
wish list: I want Zemanta to integrate with Scribefire ! - Ivan Pope via twhirl
lars: yes but learning over time (or import / export) could work similar to how you would use autocorrection. And in many cases I might not want to link to your blog (autolink) but one of your other venues. If you read German, you might want to link to my german address or my english one. Hence something like Zemanta with additional offerings would be nicer. :) - Nicole Simon
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FriendFeed Feedback: Tanath posted a message
“Rename "Like" to "Note." People don't want to click "like" on something they don't actually like (eg., sad stories).”
May 27 at 11:04 am - Link
There's been quite a bit of discussion about this. Folks are adding comments instead using various alternative words such as "noted" or "flagged". People are taking "Like" quite literally and don't want to use it to show appreciation for a story about a subject they obviously don't "Like". - Jason Wehmhoener
Tags would be nice. I guess you can use comments as tags, but a tag cloud would be handy. Not quite as fast as just clicking "Like" though I guess. - Jason Wehmhoener
Interesting. I never looked at it that way. I view "like" as approval of the story, not the events in the story. Just because I liked Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood" doesn't mean I approve of multiple homicide. - Mitch Wagner
Mitch: ya, I saw it that way too, but I guess lots of other folks don't. Interaction design is tough, eh? - Jason Wehmhoener
How about a star, a la GMail? - Benjamin Kudria
A star would seem to have the appropriate meaning. - Jason Wehmhoener
the "read later" (http://ffapps.com/readlater/) app can help but there's still the problem other people see it as "like". ff should integrate something like "later" or "watchlist", indeed. - Timo Heuer
Yeah, I view it as approval of the story too, but nevertheless, it does seem an improvement, and would make some people happy. "Flagged" is not appropriate because it implies that something is wrong/bad. You "flag" things for review by mods/admins, not for personal review. I like the "star" idea. Better than "note" actually. - Tanath
I like stars, too, but I'd like the ability to pick 1 to 5 stars... that covers the whole "Like but not In Like" scenarios as well as the "totally Love" case - Kenneth LeFebvre
1 star works for me - Alessandro
Or make a sad-face so we can collectively mourn. Would work for obituaries too (I'm a forward-looking person) - Meryn Stol
I say this because I really like the smilies. They make the site look far more personal and social than stars. - Meryn Stol
1 star works for me too, though a rating system is an idea that ought to be considered I think. Meryn, you have a point about how removing smilies makes it seem less personal/friendly, but when someone posts a story like this: http://friendfeed.com/e/2d5f0d... some people just can't bring themselves to click "like" on it. - Tanath
I think it would be an excellent case for a frown smiley. To show disapprova, disgust. This would be a totally new thing for social media I think. It would also make an interesting search: "What people found disgusting the past week." - Meryn Stol
I "like" the "dislikes" idea...cool concept. A pain for the FriendFeed guys to implement, but I like having positive & negative comments/likes separated (instead of just a 1-5 star system where 1 star and 5 star battle each other). Amazon reviews greatly improved when they stopped deleting negative comments, and started showing you the most popular positive comment AND the most negative comment. If we move to stars, I'd like -5 to +5 (e.g. red stars/frowns to white stars/smiles). - Mitchell Tsai
I just want to mark it , so I click like. - accesine
if you don't like you can hide. i don't like the "dislike" idea - Alessandro
I like the simplicity of just clicking "Like" or "Star". Now that I think of it, ratings seem unnecessary and superfluous. It's easy enough to get a sense of something's popularity by the number of people liking/starring & commenting. - Tanath
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Paul Buchheit posted a message
“I finally tried out some wikis. I'm unimpressed. Google Sites and PBWiki seem like they might be ok, but Google doesn't offer custom domains and pb charges $100/mo!”
May 25 at 3:10 am - Link
The others were all too confusing to me. Also, it took me like half an hour to sign up for PB wiki because they require email verification (why?) but their email took a long time to arrive. - Paul Buchheit
I use Google Sites with a custom domain (within Google Apps FYD), so I can access my wiki at sites.mydomain.com/whichsite . When it comes to wikis and hosting in general, I think you're best to find a decent/cheap web host to start with (a hard thing to find, these days) and upload your choice of wiki or CMS software - that way you're not tied down to a particular pairing. And hey. if worst comes to worst, couldn't you just piggyback something on the friendfeed servers somewhere? - Slippy Lane
"email verification (why?)" Perhaps so that when you e.g. lose your password they can safely send it to you, and they won't send it to someone else because e.g. you entered johndoe2@gmail.com instead of johndoe3@gmail.com, and the other john doe is someone else? Not sure... - Philipp Lenssen
A local install of mediawiki is one of the best things that's happened to our company. VERY useful as an internal KB. - Jeremy Felt
I need a simple Wiki for a client project with documentation. Which is best? Mediawiki looks OK. We need something dirt simple. - David Risley
David, we use mediawiki, works well for us with the WYSIWYG editor for the non-technical users (wiki text is intimidating to some people). - ben bloch
We've had good results using Google Sites and Wetpaint for dead simple (no markup knowledge required) wikis. But each wiki has its drawbacks, as Paul has noted. We've picked ones that we can work with. - Todd Mundt
Thanks, Todd. But, we most definitely need the wiki locally hosted. - David Risley
Sorry David, I missed that you were looking only for a locally hosted option. I've heard good things about SocialText. - Todd Mundt
Check out wikidot - best wiki farm system out there - David Bausola via twhirl
um, how Google Sites don't offer custom domains? did you try Google Apps? - Ihar Mahaniok
wetpaint is pretty nice, if you don't need/want to host it on your own server...via feedalizr - acedanger the maverick
I wrote the Wala wiki, which is a self-contained Perl script that you just drop on a server and start using. http://walawiki.org/ - Brent Newhall
Hey Paul, I know the folks over at PBwiki, but they never got back to me on nonprofit pricing...so I set up my own using Twiki. The result is at http://www.wealthcamp.info/ -- it's running a on a standard LAMP server. It took about an hour to set up, has WYSIWYG editing, user accounts... in other words, it works great. Plus it's nice that it's free. Overall, the setup could be a bit easier (they need to get closer to Wordpress's 5 minute setup than 1 hour), but once it's up and running, it works like a charm. - Erica Douglass
Have you tried wetpaint.com they just got more vc!! - kazi
I'm considering to use the one which is included in Trac as it is easily extensible, written in python and Trac itself looks good... - Daniel Hartmann
I didn't realize that Google Sites could use a custom domain -- I had clicked around for a bit and didn't see any mention of it. That may be the way to go. As for self hosting the software, I have no interest in that. Keeping up with security updates and other administrative activities is a waste of time. (this is a personal project btw, not something for ff) - Paul Buchheit
As someone else mentioned, Wikidot is nice. I have a couple wikis set up there while I work on a localized Mediawiki on a private site. - Batona
Why not just self host a wiki? It's really not that complicated to set up and should take less than one hour... - Ian Holton
You missed an important point: What do you need in a wiki? For a pretty good comparison there's http://www.wikimatrix.org/ - Cristian Vat