Two things strike me as amusing about this. 1) The fact that so many of us liked this entry (and, by extension, undoubtedly like the shirt). 2) The probability that many of us actually still use Twitter, conscious of the fact that practically no one really cares what we tweet :D
- Adam Lasnik
I wish I could add this gadget, but when I enable the Gadgets from any URL thing in Labs, I don't see the form to enter the URL under the Gadgets tab. Apparently several people have this problem (went to the Google Groups to add feedback that it's not working correctly), and no one has offered up any solution. :( Sucks!
- Cheryl Jones
Finally get the idea,it is cool though,but not very practical.
- Steve Chou
The URL tab is added to your settings area, not the Labs area. That was confusing for me.
- Yolanda
That is so cool! For me, the only problem is the width which is not appropriate but it works fine
- Rémi Fayolle
@Yolanda: I know. The description for the Labs item that you enable says that a Gadgets tab will be enabled on the Settings page, but clicking on that Gadgets tab doesn't show the form where you can enter the URL like it's supposed to. Bah.
- Cheryl Jones
@cheryljones I'm having the same problem too. I just get a blank page on the gadgets tab. Let me know if you figure out how to import.
- Al Stevens
@Al: Just for fun I went back to the Gadget tab in my Gmail settings, and the URL form box is there now. Just added the FriendFeed gadget to Gmail, yay!
- Cheryl Jones
Hmmm. The FF gadget is less useful than I thought. First of all, there doesn't seem to be a way to manually refresh it without refreshing Gmail as a whole (perhaps I'm too impatient waiting for updates). Also you can't post an original post through the gadget. And the number of FF updates shown by the gadget is limited. I thought I'd be able to see older posts. Oh well, it might be good for occasional use.
- Cheryl Jones
Nice, but wish the tabs in Gmail had replacing options..
- Reza
To my 39,000 followers on friendfeed I pass you 39,000 kisses. Considering only 11,841 people live in Half Moon Bay, where I currently live, I think that's pretty cool. Oh, and I don't ghost post like Guy Kawasaki does. Every single post here and on Twitter is written by me and me alone. Well, except for that time that Arrington got my iPhone...
I never had any doubt that your a real person and not a team of PR agents. And thank you for checking out my blog. (Sorry it's crap)
- dthree
Robert - The kiss thing's kind of scary - a hug's fine... :)
- Jim Connolly
Got a post into the "Best of the day" for the first time today and now I've been kissed goodnight by Scoble. Be still my beating heart.
- Sharon McPherson
To all those Robert-Scoble-followers: you can get some kisses from me too. Although I live in Amsterdam (600.000 inhabitants) it kind of felt like I had to experience that feeling too. Thank you Robert, for sharing this. :-)
- Ton Zijp
I will like the post but pass on the kisses... thnx :)
- ralphsaunders
Go see if my childhood house still stands in Half Moon Bay- 335 Filbert St. When i was there there were about 4 streets total it seemed, one stop light, and you ran through a field to get to the cliff that overlooked the beach.
- Steve C
Aw shucks! how sweet, :) Robert loves <3 his FF buddies and we love him back! :)
- Susan Beebe
Did you ever see the movie with Paul Newman 'Judge Roy Bean' The reason I ask BoBo is I would like to call you BoBO. If I may! But the demise of BoBO was the great part! Tell me you saw it!
- ZuDfunck
LOL...Death to all Ghost Posters!! J/k, Kawasaki is cool, but Scoble is über cool!
- Harold Cabezas
Guy Kawasaki is a duche... all he does is find lame links... say bla bla and links to alltop. Who the hell wants to go to a news website. That is so web 1.0 hasn't he heard of rss?
- Kasper Retvig
Robert, I unsubscribed and unfollowed Guy just the other day because he just doesn't 'engage'. There is next to no conversation from him/his PR agents, and pretty well everything is just links back to his websites. I have no problem with people marketing their websites, but I want conversations, not just link vomit.
- Travis Koger
Aww, and I'm not even in SF right now! Hola desde la pintoreca Buenos Aires.
- Jesse Hattabaugh
I never seen that slick UI that has maded by Google, props for that, that's looks awesome
- Kristian Salonen
Wave looks a little confusing (then again I'm at work, so I couldn't read the whole blog post), but the concept is interesting. I don't think it will be able to compete with Twitter if that's what they were aiming for.
- Ocean
I wonder if the FF designer brigade will dis this like they did the new FF UI?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Ocean - people will actually be able to get work done with Wave :P
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm just thinking of the people who are not even on Twitter, how will they digest this :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I have the same concern - if middle management can't easily participate from their blackberries, then it's dead in the enterprise water.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
So my interpretation is that this is like an extension of email, that can integrate closely with other services.
- Daniel Sims
No prizes for guessing what my first idea for an application is....this looks very cool
- Cameron Neylon
It would be interesting to see how well this could work for collaborations.
- Pedro Beltrao
Sounds like advanced email service, where the email message is "alive", wiki type collaboration is evolved. Email+Wiki+Twitter meshup. And the UI is really not that much googlish . Very eager to see it!
- Nenko Ivanov
from the article and slides, it looks like FF rooms with live chat functionality and extensibility. FF is almost there already. maybe the presentation video when available will explain any differences better
- Wladimir Labeikovsky
FF as it exists currently *looks* like the enterprise collaboration holy grail. Its only problem is that no one wants to buy into a closed service hosted externally. Even if Wave is nothing more than a free self-hostable Friendfeed it will still blow the doors off of E2.0.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
[NINJA EDIT] And by "no one" I mean "no Fortune 100 CIOs". I'm sure you guys at FF aren't out to sell directly to the enterprise yet, but it's my area of interest and I've been daydreaming about how awesome it would be to use FF as a part of my official workflow. I think Wave is more likely to get there given your current featureset versus their current vaporset.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
good point Daniel, i had somehow missed that Wave would be a Google App and thus amenable to self-hosting, etc
- Wladimir Labeikovsky
I understand Wave team's desire to integrate and leverage existing, accepted forms of communication and collaboration. But doesn't that also limit innovation? I'd love to see someone take a "blue sky" approach to the problem of business communication and collaboration, rather than build on existing models.
- Larry Hawes
I know it may seem hard to believe by watching all the crazy stuff they show in the video, but it's actually very easy to use. Click 'new wave', start typing, add a recipient. Or you can add a recipient first. So in some sense it's actually simpler than email, because there are a lot fewer opportunities to make irrevocable mistakes (like, oops, sent too early). I can't wait to be able to use it publicly.
- Joel Webber
Nenko, I think you've done a superb job of succinctly describing Wave. Or, at least my perception of Wave after using it for a month or so :). And one thing people should keep in mind: this has been in development for a long time, so it's not like three months ago, Google thought, "ZOMG! Must respond to [insert other service name here]" :-)
- Adam Lasnik
Daniel, if "FF as it exists currently *looks* like the enterprise collaboration holy grail," how do you explain to these enterprise folks, that anyone can edit and delete their past contributions after the fact, thus soiling the conversational record? Business can not be conducted in such conditions. Clearly, before being of use FF would need to "stratify" their basic types of collaborative primitives - beginning with non-editable posts and comments.
- ianf ⌘
I didn't mean "looks like" as in "feature complete" just "resembles". Lots of the latest and greatest parts of FF are features that would make any E2.0 toolkit much more powerful. The rooms and multi-threaded DMs are particularly sweet.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I can't see this being ready for the enterprise just yet, but sme's and startups definately. If they can also produce a mobile version for the iPhone and android markets it potentially is the next killer app.
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
ianf: "Business can not be conducted in such conditions." Are you kidding me? What about the telephone conversation. Business uses that just fine. It's one tool.
- Nick in Manila
It certainly wins on ease of use, but that's not enough in a business context. Accountability, being held to account, is. Truth be told, we really don't know if FFeeders paid any attention to enterprise use when originally designing it. Perhaps it can be evolved in this direction without lots of shouting, perhaps not. @Keith - FF is extremely text-input-centric. Neither of the two mobile devices is very good at this. But, fine, it does represent a step above even the most intelligent of mail/Gmail etc.
- ianf ⌘
Nick, there's a difference between telephone and print. As soon as text records are involved, there's the problem.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: Agree. It's not an auditable text record. But we've adapted to Wikipedia. It only takes you so far. You have accept it's not an absolute and use it for what you can.
- Nick in Manila
My problem with FF in the enterprise (and I try to use it that way) is the goofy name and logo.
- Nick in Manila
Wikipedia is a special case, but I have yet to hear of it being acceptable beyond colloquial use. FF is fine if treated as multi-threaded dialogue platform. Perhaps it's just me, but I always assumed that any heavy-duty business use presumes that a company runs it off its own/colo servers, not from platform-provider's own. We really don't know much of how FF works, but I suspect that...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf: Yes re enterprise use. But as the enterprise becomes more and more atomized, this will become less and less of an issue. Although that's not the immediate future of Fortune 100s - which gives a huge advantage to smaller co's.
- Nick in Manila
@ianf: There *is* an auditable record. Didn't you notice the part where they show how you can always go back through the history of a wave to see its edit history? Not only is it possible, but it's easy and only takes a few seconds. It's really useful for getting context on a large wave when you come into it late.
- Joel Webber
@Adam Lasnik I'm sure that Wave is not a respond to any existing service. At Google there are smart people thinking ahead and I think that wave is a step forward in personal and corporate comunication
- Nenko Ivanov
Actually the platform looks like a response to Live Mesh and the product looks like a FF client powered by Gears but the interesting stuff is the protocol which could be used to bring consensus on how to, finally, implement track.
- Alberto Saavedra
Isn't that a bit premature to ask? Wave's just been announced, we don't know how FF will develop in few months' time, yet already now you want us to speculate whether some vaporware will be killerware of existingware rhetorical q.
- ianf ⌘
nope it isn't. i think this is the time for asking this.
- Yusuf Güzel
@Yusuf: I have to say I think the comparison is pretty inappropriate. The two products solve different problems completely. I use Wave at work, and even once it's fully open, I will continue to use FF, which I love as well. Besides, does the world really need another "Is X a Y killer?" poll?
- Joel Webber
@Yusuf: I have to say I think the comparison is pretty inappropriate. The two products solve different problems completely. I use Wave at work, and even once it's fully open, I will continue to use FF, which I love as well. Besides, does the world really need another "Is X a Y killer?" poll?
- Joel Webber
@Yusuf: I have to say I think the comparison is pretty inappropriate. The two products solve different problems completely. I use Wave at work, and even once it's fully open, I will continue to use FF, which I love as well. Besides, does the world really need another "Is X a Y killer?" poll?
- Joel Webber
Whoops, sorry for the triple-post. I obviously have some better error-handling to write.
- Joel Webber
lol @Joel - so exactly how good _are_ those robots..
- Nick Lothian