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Erin posted a message

“Just moved into cubicle #12 for me at the big Y!.”

August 22 at 11:20 am - Link

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12 cubes? Oof. Funny that you call it the big Y! Here's what I think of when people say "Big Y" -- http://www.bigy.com/ - Keith Pelczarski

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Rick Bayless's Mexican Kitchen: Capturing the Vibrant flavors of a World-Class Cuisine

August 25 at 5:00 pm - Link

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Jeff Birkeland posted a message on Twitter

“We're looking for writers. Know anybody 100% passionate about cars? http://tinyurl.com/646y3a”

Thursday at 1:56 pm - Link

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Paul Buchheit posted a message

“Idea for a useful webapp: A tool for doing web page mockups that's better than Photoshop because things actually look right (because it's rendered by the browser). It doesn't need to generate good html, so absolute positioning, etc is ok.”

Thursday at 5:00 pm - Link

Ian, Francois "Shoob" Lamotte, Dave Dash, Winston Teo and 16 other people liked this

FrontPage? DreamWeaver? http://refreshingapps.com/show... - Lindsay Donaghe

Totally brilliant idea. I write my own bad html mockups in a text editor or whatever IDE I'm playing with at the time, but a tool to ease this process would mean I could get on to abandoning the half-finished project much sooner than usual. :-) - Slippy Lane

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Um, isn't that what Balsamiq does?? - Cyndy

Please god no, don't create another "doesn't need to generate good html" code generator. srsly - Jason Wehmhoener

Well, as for the mockups, there is really great Firefox extension called Pencil. You should try it. - Mladen Srdić

using Cappuccino, an open source framework that makes it easy to build desktop-caliber applications that run in a web browser? - huixing

Paul, have you checked out Axure http://www.axure.com/? I've typically used Visio or resorted to whiteboards/paper as they are easier to edit. - Jauder Ho

Jason, I would be fine with it not generating html at all. As for Balsamiq and some of the others, the idea is actually that it would look more like the final product instead of less. Photoshop gets fonts wrong and stuff because it isn't a web browser, and yet people still keep using it, so it seems that it must have some advantage over the other tools. - Paul Buchheit

Photoshop has two major advantages, multiple uses and precision. Photoshop can be used for more than just web mockups. One person can achieve multiple goals with Photoshop while a mockup tool just makes mockups. The second advantage is the mockups look great in presentations because the author has complete control. Photoshop mockups aren't real they're hyper-real. - Kevin D. White

Are mockups that look exactly like the finished product even desirable? I'm reminded of the "Napkin Look & Feel" (http://napkinlaf.sourceforge.n...) - Laurence Gonsalves

i would like to take my pencil on paper design straight into an app ... - Gregory Lent

Depends whether your goal is to sketch and idea or create a final design. For the latter, you really do want it to be pixel perfect. For the former, you want a "wireframe" or whatever the cool kids call it these days. - ⓞnor

What ⓞnor said. For "wireframes" a whiteboard is fine, but eventually you want pixel-perfect designs. - Paul Buchheit

Paul, you should check out Denim, http://dub.washington.edu:2007... - imabonehead

Paul have you tried Fireworks, that's what our designers use. - Michael

http://www.balsamiq.com I got this link from Cooper U boards a while back, and a lot of my co-workers have found it very useful. While it's not pixel perfect, it allows for really quick mock ups with the idea that the design of the end product will be done by actual designers. - Sam Ee

http://www.balsamiq.com/produc... That's a better link. The demo video sold me on the idea. - Sam Ee

Second attempt: http://friendfeed.com/e/9039a3... - Paul Buchheit

I've been looking for something like this for years. Balsamiq is definitely a good start, but I feel like there's not quite enough depth yet. Has anyone had luck with stencils like the ones found at http://graffletopia.com/ (for Omni Graffle)? - Sutee Dee

pixel perfect? The web isn't print. Complete control over the rendering environment is an illusion. Don't submit to it! - Andy Bakun

Jeff Boulter posted a message on Twitter

“Switched to WebKit from Firefox a few days ago and so far I'm satisfied. I don't miss my plugins too much and it's way faster.”

Thursday at 12:51 pm - Link

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Paul Buchheit posted a message

“Working”

Wednesday at 3:11 pm - via mail2ff - Link

Ian, Srikar, silpol, AJ Batac and 22 other people liked this

Dibs on the orange chair. - Shawn Farner

Glad "working" is in quotes... wouldn't want things to get too serious... - Clare Dibble

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ok - Victor via twhirl

I think we need to get a FriendFeed telethon happening to get you people some walls... Who's with me?! - Steve Isaacs

Where's the angst? Drama? Munchies? Oh, get back to "work" already. - Bill Sodeman

I humbly recommend that you guys bust it Don Draper style : (http://beta.friendfeed.com/e/8...) - Steve Isaacs

I am jealous of you, Benjamin!!! : ) - Erhan Erdogan

i like those open spaces... - Kemal Yaylali

Rough deal but somebody's gotta do it :) - Charlie Anzman

I see furniture that I laid hands on :) - Mustafa K. Isik

I call next on the pool table :) - Rob Diana

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The Fully Vetted Sarah Palin -- her latest son is not her child

August 29 at 10:22 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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I found even more evidence. In looking through the google caches of the alaska government photo galleries. Here is what I found: between March 8 http://bit.ly/1Qa5C4 there are very few photos and these at the bottom of the page were taken on April 12 http://bit.ly/33gGci NOTE these photos were taken 6 days before the child was born on April 18th. The Purple Heart Trail sigining took place only one week before that (two weeks before giving birth). SHE IS NOT PREGNANT. - Mark Interrante via Bookmarklet

Yeah, see plus ten points for sticking to her principles in a tight situation. Minus ten thousand points for lying. - Wirehead

Jeff Birkeland bookmarked a page on delicious

How To: Live the Cloud Life - PaulStamatiou.com

August 25 at 8:04 pm - Link

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Honking Fail

August 15 at 12:21 pm - Link

Chris Newman, Josh, Ross Miller, Carla Thompson and 4 other people liked this

I want to believe... - Kevin Fox

This is a viral for ikea. - minus3

Staged or for viral purposes... it still made me laugh! - Erin

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Inflatable Church all from Cribcandy - the household design blog. Daily picks of the best designed or most unusual finds, for your home

August 15 at 3:59 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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Jokingly, I suggested to my co-workers that I was considering having our wedding reception in a bouncy house... but then I found this!!!! - Erin via Bookmarklet

I've seen this. So silly... I mean really where is the bouncy floor!? - Rachel L Fisher

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"The Bouncy House of God" has a nice ring to it. - Kevin Fox

Rachel: Exactly... I want to be bouncing for my I Do's... - Erin

Of course the atheists will say it was a match made in heaven...already so much hot air in the vicinity of God's servants. - Spidra Webster

Rachel: This *is* our 'rainy day contingency plan', right? 'Cause I just faxed the forms to the site. - Kevin Fox

*lol* sure, we can do that!! - Rachel L Fisher

Jeff Birkeland posted a message on Twitter

“had a product team meeting with myself this AM. made me miss the days doing pseudo press conferences with hardball questions from laura.”

August 5 at 9:58 am - Link

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Big Contrarian → Divide.

August 13 at 10:38 pm - Link

Why are you designing something that you aren’t even sure will work? Why bother opening Photoshop if what you’re producing is little more than a fantasy-world mockup? Do you have any idea how little talent it takes to envision perfect solutions? - Chris Newman

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Website Marketing SEO Score Tool

August 13 at 12:12 am - Link

Website Grader is a free seo tool that measures the marketing effectiveness of a website. It provides a score that incorporates things like website traffic, SEO, social popularity and other technical factors. It also provides some basic advice on how the website can be improved from a marketing perspective. - Chris Newman

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Banned DEFCON slides on hacking the MTA (very interesting)

August 9 at 6:56 pm - Link

Alex, Karim, Ray Grieselhuber, Paul Monaco and 39 other people liked this

WarCart ... excellent. - atzmon

Full article here: http://www-tech.mit.edu/V128/N... - atzmon

"In ultimate irony news, a city's fight to stop the publication of a subway system hack has resulted in the information being broadcast to the world." - Eugene

"Victory for MIT Students in MBTA Lawsuit Hearing" http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2... - Eugene

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Low cost usability testing - UserTesting.com

August 7 at 10:41 am - Link

Erin liked this

Forget the cheap usability testing.... what a proposal by the founder!!!! http://www.daveloveselizabeth.... - Erin

wow - I didn't even dig in that far... how cool! - Chris Newman

Mark Trapp posted a link

And now we dance

August 6 at 8:03 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

Ruben Llibre, Chris Maughan, Clay Newton, Gordon Swaby and 35 other people liked this

From Yodel Anecdotal (Yahoo's Corporate Blog): "I emailed Matt on a lark, with an invitation to come do a video with Yahoos in Sunnyvale. What you see here is the effect of one incredibly willing Internet phenomenon, as I dragged him hither and yon across our campus to shoot 33 scenes in less than seven hours. This video closed a recent company all-hands meeting — webcast to 14,000 employees worldwide — as a reminder that, in spite of the extraordinary events of last seven months, this is still one helluva great company." - Mark Trapp via Bookmarklet

i wanna kick this guy in the nuts and capture it on film so i can distribute it all over the internets - Cee Bee

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they portray it as if no money changed hands.... - Ňicķ

My team appears at 2:00. It was tons of fun, I'm in the lower left of the screen. - Mark Interrante

Mark: very cool. I was looking for another certain someone, but couldn't find her :-P I wonder what other Friendfeeders are featured in the video. - Mark Trapp

I like his moves but he's no Geordie Dancer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...) - Toby Graham

That was awesome! - Hao Chen

Yahooooooooooooooooo Hoedown! - Daynah

Still hasn't gotten old. - saeba

NIck, did money change hands? Was he paid to come to Yahoo!? - Thomas Hawk

Filo's Cube rocks! :) - Jérôme

This video rocks!!! Google should do one. - Roberto Bonini

hahaha. yay, Matt! - Mister Groonk via twhirl

The Microsoft version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... - Sprague D

diluted his brand, hope he got paid a lot - Gregory Lent

l0ckergn0me posted a message

“Looking for a definitive collection of iPhone Wallpaper feeds. Or, maybe we'll just start the collection here?”

August 6 at 4:29 pm - via Ping.fm - Link

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http://api.flickr.com/services... (Thanks, Mona!) - l0ckergn0me

http://mobile.sciphone.net/ - not a feed, but decent iPhone interface. - l0ckergn0me

20 Great Resources for iPhone Wallpapers: http://bit.ly/4ujjXF (not a feed, but still semi-relevant) - Joe Perrin

http://www.rannieturingan.com/... - fotographic

http://iphonetoolbox.com/daily... - Joe Perrin

l0ckergn0me posted a link

How Do You Use FriendFeed?

August 6 at 10:48 pm - Link

Ben Wms, Nate Koechley, JMS, Sebastiaan van den Akker and 24 other people liked this

http://friendfeed.com/e/18528e... - Here's how Mona does it. - l0ckergn0me

I let it scroll by on Twhirl. I watched Mona's video and am afraid. - Eric Schlissel via twhirl

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The annotations don't show up UGH!!! Eric: What's wrong with the way I FF? SHEESH - Mona N.

That was seriously painful to watch. She really needs to be on about 1000mg of Ritalin every day. - Gregory Pittman

I don't use client tools. I use Firefox 3 on Windows Vista and just refresh a LOT. I also use the iPhone a ton on FriendFeed. Refresh. Refresh. Click Like. Refresh. Comment. Refresh. Go to the Everything tab. Refresh. Search on a topic. Refresh. Etc. - Robert Scoble

@monasfeed nothing "wrong" per se, I just wonder what you did before FF ;) - Eric Schlissel via twhirl

I can't stand FF in Twhirl, I haven't figured out why yet... - Rahsheen(isSoAwesome)

She dissed the Duncanmeister! :'( - Outsanity

Funny thing, I pretty much use Friendfeed like Mona, except I can't use it when I'm at work. :P - imabonehead

The annotations don't show up here, and it sucks!! - Mona N.

Am I the only one who really likes Mona's voice? It was earsmerizing. - Mark Krynsky

I think people are more terrified of my scrolling habits LOL - Mona N.

Dangit - can't play it from the iPhone for some reason. - Hutch Carpenter

Mona's voice made me melt like bacon on a hot skillet. - imabonehead

For a moment i thought it's Demo Girl :) - Nir Ben Yona

Yes, her voice is indeed as sweet and refreshing as a mango on a hot summer day - Rahsheen(isSoAwesome)

Basically the best "mashing" available now. Also the search function is awesome in that I can find topics AND people I am looking for subscibed to a ton of services, not just a few. - Patrick Moorhead

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Calvin and Jobs

August 2 at 2:27 pm - Link

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FriendFeed Feedback: felix posted a message

“Wish the iPhone version left more of the user informational stuff in - I'd like to see number of comments/likes in the user page, as well as the subscribe/unsubscribe toggle. Otherwise, very nice!”

July 1 at 5:30 am - Link

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FriendFeed Feedback: samgrover posted a message

“Would be nice to be able to subscribe to people on the iPhone interface. I don't see the option.”

July 2 at 10:19 am - Link

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FriendFeed Feedback: h1ro posted a message

“plllllllleeeasssseeee can you add the ability to subscribe to someone on the mobile (iphone) friendfeed interface?”

July 14 at 8:58 am - Link

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fruit-phone not equal mobile - silpol

not equal? I think some phones are created more equal than others :) - h1ro

FriendFeed Feedback: gregory posted a message

“On iphone interface I can't find links to subscribe to people or edit my comments. Am I missing something or are these critical links missing?”

July 22 at 5:40 pm - Link

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Critical links missing. - Steve Isaacs

I think the idea was to keep the mobile interface simple and to allow for more complex features to be done on the desktop when you get home. - Patrick Lightbody

I'd love to be able to subscribe from my iPhone - Chris Newman

definitely need to enable subscribe on the iPhone site. - Jon Price

I third that about subscriptions. - Roberto Bonini

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Building a Software Company: How to hire an idiot

July 31 at 9:35 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

Daniel Dulitz, siavash, Shafi Ahmed, Метасноб and 81 other people liked this

Great story. - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet

It reads like a tragedy. Things are going fine in the beginning, but you know it's going to end badly. - Chris White

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Paul, good find! - imabonehead

OMG this guy totally fell for the loser salesguy ...how sad! - Susan Beebe

hiring decisions can kill your firm - Bill Sodeman

Really enjoyed this, though felt bad of course for the author. Really shows that doing as much legwork/homework/digging up front as possible is a good thing and well worth the time put in - Eric Berlin

While reading this, I kept thinking about your job titles "senior executive vice director of VP coordination & vision".... funny - but sad article. - Erin

Similar experience: My employer hired a supposed "expert" from a BIG 5 consulting firm. This person was a Global Manager and was going to come to our 30 person IT shop and do us right! Boy, that hiring manager was sooo excited! I about died when I learned that person was coming on board to be my new boss. Long story short: She left 90 days later with her tail between her legs when it was abundantly clear that she completely lacked requisite skills for her position. Couldn't even use PPT or email! - Susan Beebe

we need a salesperson for our business and this is exactly why we haven't hired anyone over the past 4 years. we're terror-frozen. - faboo mama

Interesting story. Thanks for sharing Paul. The hardest thing for an entrepreneur is to ask the hard questions. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Lesson 5: A turkey was chatting with a bull. 'I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree' sighed the turkey, 'but I haven't got the energy.' 'Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?' replied the bull. They're packed with nutrients.' The turkey pecked at a lump of dung, and found it actually gave him enough strength to reach the lowest branch of the tree. The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally after a fourth night, the turkey was proudly perched at the top of the tree. He was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot him out of the tree. Moral of the story: Bull Shit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.. - Alan Cheslow

This is why I'm not usually impressed by resumes/titles. I want to see real work. Then I'm impressed. It can be a catch-22 though hiring people (for a guy, like getting a date with a beautiful lady - how do you have conversations, until you've had some). "Consultant" can be for real...or mean that someone is "out of work". - Mitchell Tsai

As a 19-yr-old college grad, how did we get clients that $500 million companies couldn't get? Well, the experienced CEOs know that McKinsey and other consultants just hire sharp (but inexperienced) people from Harvard, Stanford, etc..., and it's a total crap-shoot who you get (for $500-1,000/hr). If we did a good job for CEO of X company, he told VP friend at Y company, and we got the work. There are so many fly-by-nights in this world. Experience isn't worth much if it's "bad experience". - Mitchell Tsai

Another example of how people with great charisma but no skills can be promoted far beyond where they should be. Another great example is a guy who will be leaving his current job on Jan. 20th. - Robert Felty

This is really sad isn't it. So difficult to get it right, yet it is the most important success/fail factor for any company. It starts with great people. - Alexander van Elsas

Dang, that story was rough. I mean did you even proof read it? (LOL) - Drew Lucas

man, this could've been taken straight out of the E-myth revisited. Definitely a book that guy should read. - Vincent van Wylick

i just wish i couldn't tell so many similar stories of hiring senior execs w/ great looking experience, resumes, and references who turned out to be completely incompetent - Deva Hazarika

Actually he was lucky that the guy was so obviously lame and came clean in the end, and that his business wasn't destroyed. What's far worse is a somewhat competent person with great political skills. Much harder to detect and so they have time to do a lot more subtle and potentially fatal damage to the fabric of an company. - Robin Barooah

"$25K in stuff he said we absolutely needed -- slick brochures, sponsor some conference, ads in the trade journal, coffee mugs, pens with our logo -- I readily paid for." This entrepreneur should have been tipped off right then. Mugs? Brochures? Everyone knows you close the most business with T-shirts. - Ginger Makela

It raises an important question... how long do you need to wait for your hire to deliver. This guy had to wait for an year, since most startup founders dont have time to baby-sit their employees... how long do they wait before concluding, that they have a bad-hire. Is it 1 month, 3 months, 6 months ( sounds too much for a startup ) - Krishna Gade

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Shortcut to Fail « FAIL Blog: Pictures and Videos of Owned, Pwnd and Fail Moments

July 31 at 10:19 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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I can't believe I'm actually sharing this. Funny... yet embarrassing at the same time! I'm sure I'll have to write a "canned response" for this one tomorrow.... *doh* - Erin via Bookmarklet

I used to read Yahoo news stories and this "automatic link engine" would do all sorts off weird things. It would insert similar links like "View photos of 'grisly murder in downtown'" and stuff like that all the time. It was obviously stupid. - Brian Johns

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I hate running

July 31 at 12:07 pm - Link

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me too. sf marathon on sunday is going to suck. starts at 5:30 ugh. after that surf and bike only. - Seth

i used to run out there by the doo-doo ponds - hope there was a nice breeze for the fun run! - Chris Newman

I used to hate running too. I buy sports tech gadgets to nerd me into running/biking/swimming (whatever, really)... I like to collect and analyze the data. Except just recently I switched to using a mac, and found that I exercise less because Polar doesn't have an app that allows me to download my HRM data to my mac! Did you get your commemorative t-shirt? - Erin

Brian Rountree posted a message on Twitter

“sprites, re-factoring, arguing with PMs. . . . . roundtrip really is becoming my nickname. so.very.sad.”

July 31 at 2:27 pm - Link

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“oh no, Valleywag is linking to my blog”

July 29 at 5:42 pm - Link

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Don't worry, they bring a lot of stuff that looks like fire but it doesn't really burn. It's concerning at the moment that it happens, but it's sort of like holding a Space Shuttle Tile that's been heated to 5,000 degrees. Hold it right and you come out untouched. We'll all talk about how hot it's getting for you, though. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert Scoble posted an entry on Scobleizer -- Tech geek blogger

You are an idiot if…

July 29 at 9:44 pm - Link

Satya Boora, Jeff P. Henderson, Rodrigo Jaroszewski, Alex and 33 other people liked this

Good point about the .NET development. It would make a lot of sense. - Kevin Bondelli

Robert, I wish they would let go of the legacy code and pull a Classic to OS X migration with Windows. Microsoft takes a huge public beating, but they have some very talented people there that I bet would love an opportunity to start fresh. - Michael Pardee

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I don't know if they'll ever make good on the promises they made at PDC in 2003 for .Net and Windows BUT I have to say I've been very impressed (and excited) to see the changes they're making in ASP.Net so that you have the option to do REAL Ajax development via an MVC framework. They have been studying Ruby on Rails I think. And the things they've done with LINQ for .Net 3.5 are pretty dang awesome too. Once all that becomes standard for enterprise then it won't really matter what OS you use anyway. - Lindsay Donaghe

I can't say when or if this Midori thing will be released, but application compatibility is easily handled through virtualisation - either through Virtual PC, or by running the app in an isolated silo using Softricity. - Stuart Maxwell

I've said that the OS would be obsolete (in that it wouldn't matter which one you choose to run on your hardware) in 5 years starting about 2 years ago. I stick by my assessment. With virtualization progressing like it is, we'll just run software on whatever platform is available in VMs eventually. - Lindsay Donaghe

Liking to come back to this later. - Akiva Moskovitz

How about "You are an idiot if... you build on a single OS platform on an OS that's slowly starting to lose market share" I don't care how good .NET is (and here's a hint, not actually any better than Java, and significantly worse in many ways) being Windows only is a non-starter (and the first person to mention Mono gets the old "point and laugh" treatment). - Jason Carreira

Arguing if they should go open source or not LOL - Mona N.

If Gates is against breaking support for ancient software then Apple’s recent advances in marketshare won’t be just a near-term surge they will be cumulative. Microsoft cannot continue to invest resources in this manner eventually Apple will overtake them due to the growing waste of human resources at Microsoft. Also I believe Microsoft needs to go to a yearly release cycle like Apple. Im not interested in their products & 5 years of waiting between releases to get innovation. Not interested in the least. - Roger Kondrat

Innovation? Like Vista? - Jason Carreira

@Michael I think MS shouldn't announce they are leaving behind the legacy code until they have a beautiful demo to woo the audience. I think people would complain but if the product is compelling like Apple's was, they will drink it up. - Roger Kondrat

@Michael you took the words right out of my mouth about a Classic/OSX style change. That is where Apple really did right. At some point, you NEED to break application compatibility to improve the product. They seem to have done it to an extent in Vista, but not the extent I was hoping. Since businesses rely on the fact that their crappy old software will run, they will continue to upgrade. MS needs to FORCE the change, otherwise we'll continue to be stuck in the Win 3.1 compatible world. - Tim Hoeck

@Tim @Michael totally agree with the Apple approach was only referring to the PR. Also @Tim I think it is MS's responsibility to ensure the marketplace their lifeblood progresses which means it is in their best interest to every couple decades (minimum) to make a radical step forward as you both point out like Apple did. - Roger Kondrat

Great. Yet another reason I'm an idiot. - todd

todd, I won't think you're an idiot until Robert actually backs up his statement with some arguments. His post is basically "I say it ain't so" with nothing behind it. - Ian Betteridge

Microsoft should buy Sony to compete with Apple in the living room/digital lifestyle. 360 and Vista Media Center built into every Vaio HDTV. - Andrew Smith

yeah u r right - zos

Writing a kernel in .net is something I wouldn't want to undertake, maybe the layers above will be written in .net... They would be better off first writing a new micro kernel and then start from bottom up rewriting stuff and choosing the appropriate language whether this is .net or something else. It's just not economically feasible to keep using different kernels etc. - Robbie van der Blom

it just shows how destructive management can be for good minds - Gregory Lent

Not totally ure what "rewrite" means but I am guessing Unix/Linux today vs Unix from early 70's is not a "rewrite" either. - Brian Sullivan

Personally I think anyone trying to make predictions this specific for 20-40 years in the future is more likely to be the idiot, but I see your point. I tend to think, however, that hardware will maintain its exponential growth in speed and render the current issues with managed code irrelevant in less than 10 years. Shall we put it on longbets.com? - Ben Reierson

calling the author an idiot is a little over the top robert, he clearly stated that it is an incubation & research project and i (speaking w/ my enterprise technology hat on) personally like the way he wrote this article & the fact that msft is doing these sorts of greenfield r&d efforts... - mike "glemak" dunn

I'm old school here. At several fundamental levels C# is not a language I would pick to write a low level OS in. No surprise I would have said the same thing about Turbo Pascal. And the .NET runtime don't know why that would have to be preserved in an OS effort. That being said, I think MS's next step ought to be to derive their own version of C++ that's C# friendly and use that as the core. C++ could become a more efficient tool to use and it would follow along MS's success with C#. That's where I'd start. - Loren Heiny

Mike: my idiot headline is more aimed at people who picked up on his headline and started spreading it around as if this were a serious effort to replace Windows. I answered more over on the comment section of my blog. - Robert Scoble

Microsoft should just continue support for Vista if they are so worried about backwards compatibility. As long as the .Net-from-the-ground-up OS has siginficant advantages and reasons to get businesses switching and get applications for it, Microsoft should have no problem. Carrying so much legacy code merely hinders the overall progress and experiance. - Roberto Bonini

robert: yeah saw your comments afterwards, seems a number of others picked up on the same concept, good to hear you didn't intend to call the author an idiot - i do agree w/ your opinion that these sorts of research projects are very different than a full commercial production effort... - mike "glemak" dunn

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TUAW Tip: exclude your Time Machine disk from Spotlight indexing - The Unofficial Apple Weblog (TUAW)

July 29 at 6:08 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

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I hadn't thought of that; good tip - Evan Sims