Working on installing mine now... The progress bar is nearly finished!
- aminorjourney
been on it for weeks and I gota say I like it, but the wait now continues until we have app developers updating their apps and getting push working!
- Kyle Saric
I still get the "2.2.1 is the current version".
- Sean Ryder
Update finished installing for me. Now iTunes is just backing up my iPhone.
- Troy Ryder
downloaded 3.0 for the touch, and it works great! nice to have landscape and copy and paste functionality
- Jon mclaughlin
Sean, unplug your phone, relaunch iTunes. I hear that works for some
- Dekz
Yeah, now where is an update from BeejiveIM and IM+ for push?
- Kevin Whalen
Productivity across the world just took a dive :-)
- Bryan Lyle
Kevin: their app store app was submitted for updates but it's still not in the store. I love BeeJiveIM too, and it's ran pretty weird on all the 3.0 betas.
- Dan Hendricks
Now I just need to figure out a way to get out of my Verizon contract so I can port over to At&T with a 3GS
- Jon mclaughlin
I'll be downloading my update for my iPod tonight at 5:30PM Eastern time. I'm counting the minutes!
- Mike Lewis
Have fun everyone. 3.0 is a blast. Been playing with the GM Seed for devs a couple of days now. Very nice upgrade!
- Jeremy Heslop
The GM seed and the now downloadable version has the same build number: 7A341
- David Jack Wange Olrik
Downloading mine too. Had to upgrade iTunes to 8.2 first ... annoying 'Updating Library' function taking a half hour before I can proceed to the 3.0 install.
- Dale Dietrich
Leo, have you seen AT&T has revised it's upgrade requirements. 3G owners who are up before the end of Sept can get standard prices. http://friendfeed.com/chilima...
- ChiliMac
Does anyone know if the 3GS will have capability of Blackberry Redirect? Can't afford to lose my work email but want to get an iPhone
- Jon mclaughlin
Anyone know if you can share the update file with another computer? Both me and the wife have iPhones and it seems silly for us both to download it?
- Jason Roseweir
4:27am here. 3rd attempt at downloading. keep getting an "unknown error" halfway through downloading. If it doesn't work this time, I'll take the laptop into work and try from there in a couple of hours.
- Ben Short
Maybe you could ask the developer of the TWiT Live Desktop to integrate an options panel where users can select which stream they'd like: Ustream, Stickam, or BitGravity.
- Eric Geller
Thanks to BitGravity I can stream from my iphone to my laptop anywhere in my country even in train!! Simply AWESOME!!!!
- Royant
I love the new popout. It's perfect in Chrome as an application shortcut. Now I have an instant "Leo on my desktop" that hangs off to the side while I'm working.
- Amac
I'm sure this has been asked already somewhere, but will there be a unified chat below the video at some point on live.twit.tv?
- techky
@Iain It's really quite easy, AMD & Nvidia have new GPU designs every 18-24 months, and in the time in between, they keep Ryan busy by making ever new graphics cards based on the same GPUs
- Martin
Interesting idea but not sure what it's purpose would be
- Iain
imagine listening to all your songs on itunes at once...
- Steve Austin
4. Rumored 40nm GPU coming from AMD 1. GDDR5, performance near the HD 4830, $99, 826M transistors, previous generation is 520M transistors or so in this price range
- Leo Laporte
Went back to Stickam, BG wont run on here, keeps buffering
- BASEnet
OK here except for left only audio and higher CPU (I sound like I'm complaining but I'm really not - love the show)
- Norm Corriveau
it's all about thew motivation $$$$$$$$
- Steve Austin
nah, sometimes it just comes down to physics.
- Martin
They still haven't figured the below 193nm light sources and masks out
- Martin
Netbooks are doing so well due to the economy but even so they are a great little platform that I can't keep away from... my MSI Wind gets used all the time
- Iain
heat was the issue with ghz speed, but the nm processes kept going smaller (moore's law in effect) exactly leo and ryan
- Chris Heath
40 Nanometers = 0.0000015748031496062992 Inches
- Steve Austin
It is staggering how they can manufacture something so small
- Iain
I thought the atom processor had limitations to what it could be used in - like a 10 inch screen
- Iain
markets ebb and flow... like cars... people are dropping their 22" rimmed Hummers for hybrid Hondas... but when things get better the pendulum will swing back...
- Steve Austin
It's quite remarkable what you can do with 40+ years and a probably a hundred billion dollars in R&D money
- Martin
people will get back to their superpowered notebooks soon enough...
- Steve Austin
Wasn't there a Core-i7-based "Transportable" announced the other day. Talk about superpowered!
- Martin
something to lake leisure suit larry on the plane with...
- Steve Austin
If most of the software we use is in the cloud, netbooks don't change what the software devs do.
- archaictree
8. Previous contest: Zotac GeForce GTX 280 1GB card - winner already has the prize
- Leo Laporte
9. New contest: HTPC ready ASUS HD3650 Silent GPU with a copy of Spore to go along with it 1. What is the most recent article posted on PCPER.COM?
- Leo Laporte
can anyone help me get my xchat hooked to the new chat connection
- Jeremy Robbins
jeremy the irc chat has not changed (it did a few weeks ago) new server url irc.twit.tv
- Chris Heath
when I put that in it says that the host is unknown I have never been able to get it to work after the switch....any ideas I just put in irc.twit.tv int he network connect.
- Jeremy Robbins
just tried it same result - unknown host - I have tried - http://irc.twitlive.tv - irc.twit.tv - irc.twitlive.com and irc://irc.twitlive.com
- Jeremy Robbins
jeremy the url is irc.twit.tv ... irc://irc.twit.tv (if put into a browser) should open up xchat and go to that server
- Chris Heath
Tweetdeck really is gaining a lot of market share for Twitter tools. It is the tool to beat now. By far.
- Robert Scoble
trying it 1st time, brilliant group feature, awkward experience compared to other Mac clients... twitter drowning when on mobile device because of ease of following groups in deck?
- Lloyd Budd
I am just about to head out and shoot some photos of this great city.
- Tom Harrison
Yes it is stunning! I love this town.
- Tommy Lane
I love the view on the way to the airport, as much as people like to call it manmade, after all it is nature
- Ray Velez
Do you remember the first time you saw the skyline? It was like seeing Superman.
- Craig Mische
I love New York need to go back soon! I proposed to my then girlfriend on Brooklyn Bridge in December 2004. NYC will always have a place in my heart. - 'She said yes btw! Got married in July 2006'
- Nigel Kitchen
It's a nice place to visit, but there are too many people and the cost of living is too high.
- coldbrew
It is the little things that make the experience better.
- Matt Hixson
YEAH!! I love Ben's code! w00t! that is a COOL feature!
- Susan Beebe
A humble testimonial from someone who knows Ben's code, and worked with him on something: Ben Rawks :)
- directeur
Oooh! I can't wait to get my camera phone, I'll be able to use this!
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Why express compatibility in terms of products. There's a consensus on how to do thumbnails, why not just support the consensus? Here's the result of the investigation I did back in January. http://www.scripting.com/stories... and an example page. http://discuss.flickrfan.org/2009... Seems to me if I link to that page in FF, you should show the thumb. Why not??
- Dave Winer
I went ahead and tested it and as before it does not recognize the thumb. http://friendfeed.com/e... The reason you should do this is that you encourage entrepreneurship on FF as a platform. If I can deliver a beautiful feature for your product without you having to do *anything* that gives us a chance to become big through FF. If you only work with people who are already big, you make sure innovation happens elsewhere first
- Dave Winer
Dave, the bookmarklet will automatically pick up those thumbs (and you can remove them by clicking on them). Automatically pulling them in anytime a link is shared is an interesting idea, but we have to be a little careful about user intention. In the case of twitpic, they obviously wanted to share the image, but if I just post a random link via twitter, it's not clear that I also want to share whatever image it is that the author of that page set as the thumbnail (which could be anything).
- Paul Buchheit
Skype 2.8 Beta for OSX - will it get this new Skype 4.0 Win codec set? Product feature divergence between platforms is ... worrisome.
- Dossy Shiobara
For those who prefer multiwindow mode - there's a special button in top-right corner, near minimize/maximize/close buttons.
- Boris Тylevich
can´t see any interesting changes yet. should test a conf video call all together
- Cem Dalgic
I have been using the beta for a while... I haven't been impressed with the UI.
- Mike Wills
I tried the beta some months ago, and was not taken with the new UI, might try it again, see if I take to it
- Carl Grint
I've been running 4.0 beta for quite some time now. Works fine here, and on Win 7 too. I use it for both IM, and for phone calls. MUCH cheaper than a landline (got rid of that some years ago, so stop sending me crap to get me to join up AT&T. I don't want your overpriced suckage).
- Ian May
I think once you get used to the UI it's more logical, and more compact, and everything is easier to get to.
- Ian May
I like it so far except for the fact that my Outlook contacts are no longer listed in my Skype Contact list even though I have the option selected.
- April
Love the cool new look. Going to take it for a test drive w/video skype later today.
- Deborah E. Bifulco
I've installed and set to compact mode, like the new UI. Not tried any calls/chat yet.
- Nigel Kitchen
The UI is significantly changed from beta 1, especially the compact or default viewing options.
- Jim Courtney
I know this is a little OT but are Skype developing a client for the iPhone?
- Nigel Kitchen
Video is still one-to-one; Skype has yet to announce plans as to if, or when, they will have multi-party video.
- Jim Courtney
Multiparty video is really hard to do though -- just not enough bandwidth in most cases.
- Brian Sullivan
we have been providing full duplex video/audio collaboration for 8 and upwards ( WhiteBaord, File Browser, SlideShows, Calendar, Quiz and now integrating with some big names in Document Share and Collaboration, entirely browser based since 2005 - http://tinyurl.com/bmxjc4
- atul abraham
from twhirl
PS: we even integrate with SKYPE, so you can call Timbuktoo from within your internet video collaborative experience.
- atul abraham
from twhirl
Few lame things... Version only for Windows. Not for Mac or Linux, even in BETA. You're very limited in the conversation window customization, so group chats can be difficult to follow. Alternating background or text colors would be nice. When you separate a discussion window and maximize it, the conversation history and text area does not maximize to full width. It stays at a fixed width of around 700px. Other than that, the UI is pretty nice and there seem to be some good improvements. Overall... it's OK.
- James Morris
Oh, and Firefox 3.0.6 is out today as well. Not on main page yet (they're getting servers in order). But if you know where to look...
- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
something I have always found to be really shoddy is with your credit "It doesn't expire, but if you don't use it within a certain time frame you lose it".. um that *is* expiry you dolts!
- alphaxion
In WinXP SP3, the Camera/Video settings do NOT change from WebCamMax (one of the video drivers I have), even tho all available options appear in dropdown menu. Changing it to CamSplitter should work, but Skype 4 wont take the click. Going back to v3 until fixed got to have the splitter working)
- CLC Radio
Also agree with April's assesment, have Outlook contacts checked, but they dont show up - this is a deal breaker until fixed. I dont wait for fixes like this AFTER an install, I just uninstall and GO BACK. As should we all. We are not Omega testers!
- CLC Radio
CLC Radio - i have only commented on someoens opinion that duplex video is tough. Since when is a relevant post spam ?
- atul abraham
from twhirl
Skype's site redesign put the Contact Us link in the About Us page - stupid.
- CLC Radio
I admit it. For some reason, never went there. Will download tonight. Thanks Robert (and welcome back .... :)
- Charlie Anzman
atul, may I quote: "we have been providing full duplex video/audio collaboration for 8 and upwards ( WhiteBaord, File Browser, SlideShows, Calendar, Quiz and now integrating with some big names in Document Share and Collaboration, entirely browser based since 2005 - http://tinyurl.com/bmxjc4 - atul abraham via twhirl" What part of the link isnt spam - the link doesnt tak us to a product page, just a search engine site (at least it looks that way)
- CLC Radio
also, "PS: we even integrate with SKYPE, so you can call Timbuktoo from within your internet video collaborative experience. - atul abraham via twhirl"
- CLC Radio
CLCRadio - you arrived at a product demo page, where I watched you log in and out, twice, im not sure what part of a video collaboration room can look like a "search engine site" or one that looks like an SE site.
- atul abraham
from twhirl
CLCRadio im not interested to carry on an empty back and forth with you, load the URL properly or keep your comments about me to yourself.Peace, AA
- atul abraham
from twhirl
If you are not interested in "back and forth", you need not post. Loading a link properly? If you mean, clicking on the tinutrl you provided, that is what I tried. I shall attempt again. This time I will cut and paste the link into another browser, as this is necessary sometimes due to improper parsing of tinyurl (they soemtimes use ilegal characters in their urls, rare, but it does occur)
- CLC Radio
atul, I just now was auto-logged on as "FF" with some ******* password - THIS is the first time I logged in. Obviously someone else decided to use "CLCRadio" those 2 times as a username. I can't help that. When clicking the tinyurl link you provided from within friendfeed, I get the search engine page I mentioned before. This is all just FYI, and not meant as a comment on you (some comment was necessary just to figure out what is wrong with tinyurl and let them know about the parsing issue)
- CLC Radio
I downloaded, updated and found I was still running 3.8 ...
- Gary Thom
I just need to say right away here and now, although my techniques for getting a hold of an issue are rather rude at times (I know this), I need to publicly acknowledge Atul Abraham as officially NOT a spammer. I have recently discovered that certain tinyurls do not parse well in SeaMonkey browser, and often is required of us SM users to refresh from tinyurls and other url sqaushers. Atul's video conf product looks very promising , is free to use, but Atul is not a spammer! No way!
- CLC Radio
I like this new version - much better imo
- Nicholas James
hah, I just dl'ed the beta a few days ago (and I liked it a lot!). Getting the non-beta now.
- Chieze Okoye
They released the 2.8 beta for Mac not long ago, that has features that aren't in the 4.0 Windows version. So there *is* some Mac love @ Skype.
- Chris Dahl
I had used the 4.0 beta, but global hotkeys were broken. I installed the 4.0 release today, but haven't tried the hotkeys yet.
- Joey Gibson
Just think in a few years (more like 7) if you have a long layover at Dulles you'll be able to take metro rail into the city and do something... maybe
- Dean Clark
Welcome home. Friendfeed has been boring without you~! Glad you're back!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Nigel: about five hours. Should be home by 9 p.m. Pacific Time.
- Robert Scoble
so what do you do with your time when there is no internet connection (other than sleep)?
- Kyle
from twhirl
Kyle: I had lunch with Larry Page, co-founder of Google, and the former UN Ambassador from Israel yesterday. So, not much. :-)
- Robert Scoble
LOL, note to self, remember not to play "name dropping" game with Robert Scoble. You'll FAIL! ; )
- Kyle
from twhirl
Get a PotBelly Sandwich from (I think D gate area, maybe C). My favorite sandwich chain in US.
- Ben Metcalfe
from twhirl
Some that are waiting for this (not really me), another copypaste option for jailbreaked iPhone and iPod Touch. More information in article. Download from Cydia, not need to install new repo.
- Kristian Salonen
from Bookmarklet
Nice! I'm going to try it out, was in need of copy paste on Friday. Will report back!
- Simon Wicks
Works quite well, nice and simple. Copy paste buttons appear above the normal keyboard when 123 is pressed, covering the view of the text input area. I tried copying sms text (when writing a text) and then pasting that same text into a note, worked fine, no problems. I like!
- Simon Wicks
One downside (so far), you can only copy text you write in a text message, you cant copy text you have already received. That kinda sucks.
- Simon Wicks
This is still beta, so that maybe fixed in future
- Kristian Salonen
Is it true you cannot copy anything out of Safari with it yet? That would be a big miss ...
- Patrick Jordan
Thanks Kristian - at east you can grab a URL then - hopefully more will come along with an update :)
- Patrick Jordan
Ive just got an update for mine already, dont know what the changes were though..
- Simon Wicks
Another update today: 'Should perform better, make cursor movements easier, set up permissions on the clipboard more reliably and hopefully restore compatibility with older iPhone OS versions'
- Simon Wicks
New update makes it a bit weirder for me to highlight things. Sometimes its highlight, sometimes it just the magnifier.. Will have to keep playing to see how im supposed to do it.
- Simon Wicks
Another update again this morning. Best one yet. Double tap to get the text select tool up now. Double tap incoming texts to copy those. You can now copy more than one item into the stack, and choose from the stack which you want to paste. can close the copy/paste options when you hit 123. And its slightly transparent so you can see behind the options box which covered the input box before.
- Simon Wicks
thanks for the tip, Simon. Will check it out later today.
- Baard @ Pixum
Kevin - If you try to take it in for repairs with it jailbroken they wont accept it. I had troubles with mine and just reset to factory settings, put the regular fiimware back on and they didnt question it. You're not opening it up and tinkering with the guts of it, its only firmware, so it shouldn't be an issue. Thats what i think anyway.
- Simon Wicks
Yeah. Plug it in as you normally would, so it syncs and does a back up. Once you jailbreak it you can restore from that backup and get all your contacts, emails, photo's, texts etc back. It will be just the same as it was before you did it, but jailbroken.
- Simon Wicks
Yet another update for Clippy today too! Now supports more languages, confirmation when clearing the stack, and proper sync between background apps. Cant say i'd had any trouble with the background thing since yesterdays, but hey, some people must of.
- Simon Wicks
If you just google for iphone jailbreak guides you get loads of results. Here's one: http://www.iphonehacks.com/jailbre... You cant yet jailbreak the latest release of the firware that was released a couple of days ago. If you have already upgraded you can still jailbreak, but you will need to use the older firmware when you create your new one, if that makes sense?
- Simon Wicks
Goes to prove it can be done in a nice way, I don't know why Apple doesn't just do it already. Theirs would obviosly be a lot cleaner and would push up the entry box instead of covering it, or something similar though.
- Simon Wicks
I'm running Windows 7 too and find it great, but, sorry, it won't be Windows 95 time of lines in front of stores to get it. I'd be shocked if that happened.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
highly doubt it. Too many players (Mac OS X, Linux and even Solaris) on x86 platform compared to Win95 era.
- Rom Feria
Thing is that at a glance, it's Vista. Win95 was drastically different in appearance from Win3.11 or NT4. One way or another, that was part of its allure (though the fact that many people were still on DOS also helped) and by learning the 'Vista lesson' of not changing too drastically, MS may have made the Win7 sell all the harder. It just comes of too much as a service pack for Vista - I know that's always the criticism of new Windows releases but it's a fact.
- mattpovey
I think MS has the means, and talent to make it happen, but are top heavy. I'm hoping W7 can be their Renaissance but it means a very careful release to market, unlike Vista
- Mo Kargas
Definitely, I have my 2 laptops and 3 desktops on Win 7 now, they work so well together. Can't wait for Win 7 to hit RTM.
- Tom Warren
it works great on my netbooks, so it will work great on platforms with some more performance. The look and feel... yeah i am barely switching back to my XP and Ubuntu system. I think i like it :p
- Sascha Pallenberg
Windows 95 glory days? From a retail perspective, yes, from a user perspective, no. I remember IE constantly crashing whilst bringing down the rest of the OS? If you think Vista is slow, then Win95 on 4Meg was horrific, even 8Meg was terrible.
- Paul Grav
Win7 rocks. It's not Vista, it does a lot more. People won't be standing in line to buy it but they'll be downloading it like crazy during the betas and installing it in droves when it releases if this momentum continues.
- Randy Holloway
from twhirl
I'm yet to try Win 7, but with all the positive reviews I'm reading, I'm sure it's pretty good compared to Vista. But whether it will bring back the glory days of Windows 95, I doubt it. And Microsoft can thank (partially) Vista for that.
- Umit Namli
Absolutely lovin' Windows 7 since I 'adjusted it' to my own needs. It's fast, adaptable and friendly for non-techies.
- Charlie Anzman
win95 was not the glory days.. win95 and NT4 did share a lot of UI design, though the two were different at their core - NT being a native 32bit kernel with DOS stripped from under it.Personally I'd say the move from NT4 to 2000 was their biggest leap. The move from a WINS based system to a native DNS powered OS and the addition of an LDAP based system was such a leap.
- alphaxion
I'm going to agree with 95, simply because 95's UI and organisation was far superior to win 3.11, not to mention the ability to multi-task better
- Mo Kargas
mattpovey, don't mean to nitpick here but NT4 was released about a year after Win95 and (along with other changes) had the Win95 UI style.
- Yuval Atzmon
my biggest complaint about the vista/win7 UI changes is that it now takes longer for anyone with any proficiency to do the most simple of tasks.. want to change the network settings? I used to be able to right click on network places and select properties. Now I have to select a link from the side of the network centre before I get to edit my connections. It's just so frustrating "oh, you want to do more than browse the internet and launch a few apps? screw you, here's 15 more screens to navigate!!"
- alphaxion
It's all right for Windows, but I went right back to my OSX
- Phil Boiarski
The buzz surrounding Windows 7 is electric, I will be installing the beta onto my main desktop replacing Vista later this week. I think MS got it right this time. About time too!
- Nigel Kitchen
I'm still using XP, and I've turned off all the UI bloat to make it as close to a Windows 98 feel as possible. Thankfully, I spend almost no time on my Windows machine - OS X and GNOME solve 95% of my problems, and a rarely turned-on Windows box is there for the rest.
- Tom Morris
@nigel I'd seriously recommend against updating your main system with it.. it's time limited and still in development. There's plenty of bugs yet to rear its ugly head and you could lose data. A good example of this is the media player 12 bug with the default config to pull info from the internet chopping off a few seconds from the start of mp3s. Keep your main rig as it is until the OS ships.
- alphaxion
alphaxion: Vista/Windows7 are customizable. For the Network connections you can create a shortcut.. Use "C:\Windows\explorer.exe ::{7007ACC7-3202-11D1-AAD2-00805FC1270E}"
- Alex Sauceda
@alex point being that as an administrator I can be coming into contact with different machines on a daily basis and shouldn't have to do that for basic OS functionality across them all. I'm aware as to why they included the "network centre" as it's important for the new networking stack, but they should have set it up as a different icon in the control panel instead of altering my right-click network -> properties shortcut.
- alphaxion
I agree that they buried the configuration even more than in XP.
- Kevin L
Why does Robert get so impressed by every new technology ?
- Sidharth Dassani
Robert: Understood. Now the question is whether I drop it in Parallels on the MacBook, or go for broke/masochism and see how the Inspiron Mini handles it. ;) There's the real acid test for a new Windows OS.
- teleken
teleken, I have it on Fusion and on my netbook. Both work amazingly well. The only problem with using it on Parallels/Fusion is that you will not get Aero and hence won't get all the nifty Aero-dependent desktop features like Desktop preview, the preview panels etc.
- Kamath (नमः)
What are the minimum memory reqs on it?
- Jason Wong
Is it a winner because it actually installed correctly, or because you're impressed with the new feature set...
- Shay Frendt
Also, try left-clicking on a taskbar item and then dragging upward.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Looking forward to the release after posts like this. Read that idle W7 uses appr. 600-650 MB RAM. Anyone confirm those numbers?
- Migger
The real killer feature for Windows 7 would be a little dialog box at the beginning of the upgrade process that simply says "If you proceed with this upgrade, you will lose N days of productivity to trying to troubleshoot drivers, software incompatibilities, and reinstallation of incompatible programs; to re-learning simple UI tasks; and to experimenting with superficial cosmetic changes, all for marginal UX and performance gains . Do you want to continue? Yes / No"
- Ken Sheppardson
Jason: I don't know what the hardware requirements are but it uses fewer resources than Vista. So, just go with the hardware requirements for Vista.
- Robert Scoble
I've had Windows 7 running with just 128mb RAM in a VM - Excellent memory management.
- Nigel Kitchen
teleken: My MacBook is running it fine, no problems so far, although I've only really been playing around with settings and stuff, not installed any big software to try with it. I used VM Ware to do it, Parallels always gave me problems so i switched.
- Simon Wicks
Since I have both Vista & Ubuntu I think I can wait until all you early adopters work out the bugs. :D Seriously, I will wait until it is forced upon me when I buy another computer. That should be about 3 years from now.
- MarkCarras
REALLY tempted to run the beta on my laptop...a bit nervous to run any beta on my main rig but i think it wouldn't be so bad on my laptop....hmmmmmmm
- Live4Emma (L4S)
dual booting 7 with vista and 7 is running so much faster than vista. i'm happy that they cut down the min. req.
- Aaron Eaton
Stay away from AVG under Windows 7...triggers a heinous BSOD in tdx.sys...
- Mike Dove
I have been unable to download the Windows 7 image from Microsoft's site. I think they're a bit overloaded at the moment!
- John Bellone
John, have you tried since Saturday? My download worked like a champ Saturday afternoon. Also Brandon LeBlanc @ Microsoft is reporting that extra capacity was added and the download site has been working smoothly since Saturday AM. Also they have removed the 2.5 million limit on the number of beta testers -- as long as you get it before January 24, you can get a product key: http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs...
- Karim
Upgraded main computer? will MS support upgrade from Beta to RTM?
- Vaibhav
I installed Windows 7 64-bit and Chrome doesn't work at all. GRR.
- Phil G
I like the things they have done with respect to perf and UI changes, but this is what Vista should have been in the first place and I hope the upgrade from Vista to 7 is cheaper given the small number of differences between the two.
- Vaibhav
I got it here on my HP Mini 1000. Running good so far... not doing much though
- Bwana ☠
Phil, have you run the compatibility wizard on it?
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Mike Dove I have 7 x64 with AVG installed. I don't have any problems with it.
- Vaibhav
Akiva - nope but that command line switch I just linked to did the trick.
- Phil G
@Vaibhav Perhaps you are getting lucky. I believe I was triggering it with the Outlook Email scanner portion of AVG, it may be that for normal operation it is fine.
- Mike Dove
Karim, What link did you use? MIcrosoft's site seems so slow.
- John Bellone
When attempting to download Windows 7 I click "Download Now" and nothing happens.
- John Bellone
Windows Weekly mentioned that there's quite a nasty MP3 truncating bug in the beta. If you value your music collections, it's probably best to avoid using WMP. Apparently there's a hot fix available.
- Paul Grav
@Paul it was the first thing I did after installing Win7 and Windows Media Player is working just fine with no damage to the mp3's that I have been able to tell yet
- Steven Hodson
@Paul same here. It works fine after hotfix
- Vaibhav
Awesome news.... I hope MS Windows 7 is a winner...that would be great!
- Susan Beebe
Yep, Windows 7 went pretty smooth so far; tackling my main home/Windows Media Center device now. +1 for sex life as well.
- Wade Dorrell
Whats the timeline before it expires on you? how painless was the upgrade?
- Stephen Smyth
I wrote about my initial install experience on The Inquisitr (http://www.inquisitr.com/14951...) with some follow Snapshot posts at WinExtra .. I'm liking this release of Windows
- Steven Hodson
Stephen, it expires in August which means a Beta 2 or RC1 in July (or a hotfix to extend the death date).
- Akiva Moskovitz
Been running Windows 7 for about a week. Loving it!
- David Andrzejewski
A friend just loaded Win7, she is upset that she can't find a way to make it Classic UI. It will be a long long time before I upgrade in that case.
- Tina Clarke
I've heard someone saying he was expecting something new in Windows 7 and literally got the same Vista OS, just a little faster. Don't you think Microsoft is re-selling the same system (only a bit improved) instead of giving us a new one?
- Nir Ben Yona
I think I'll be waiting for the BETA-tag to go away. I have tried vista and xp in beta and I regret it, so..this time I'll wait for the FULL and not beta version of Windows 7.
- Qbat
In case anyone cares, I threw Windows 7 on a late 2006 Compaq V6600 laptop with a Turion 1.8GHZ processor. This was one of those Vista capable machines. It was running XP (it never had Vista on it) and Windows 7 runs better than XP did. It has 2GB RAM. It's not a low powered laptop nor is the CPU/chipset that old but it's nice to see Windows 7 run so smoothly on it. Windows 7 installed...
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- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
John - if you are using the technet download link (the one with the serial number) , it will try to invoke a downloader app which only works in IE. If you find one of the many blogs with the direct download link, those should work with any browser.
- Phil G
Previously as a test, I upgrade installed the Windows 7 6801 beta on a Vista 32 machine that was heavily used (over 1400 installed applications) and was shocked to see it that not only did everything still work (Zonealarm, LogMeIn, MICROSOFT FINGERPRINT READER!), but it was MUCH snappier and startup and shutdown was significantly better. Not that I would ever recommend an upgrade...
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- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
Great to hear the upgrade worked. I hate when computers fail...
- Mitchell Tsai
Failed to mention that the upgrade install on the Vista 32 box w/ 1400+ apps took at least 3 hours. I can't remember exactly how long. But it took forever, which was expected...
- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
Like it so far. Install was a bit difficult, but thats probably my fault (dual boot machine). Snappier than Vista, cleaner than Vista. Uses about 20% less RAM on my machine.
- Chad Albert
Dr Apps mine took hours too. I ran it while I slept.
- Robert Scoble
Just tried streaming h.264 video to a xbox as an extender. It works !!
- Olivier Castets
Fresh install took me < 30mins to login prompt. Upgrades take a lot longer.
- Chris Johnson
John, I am using the regular Technet link: http://bit.ly/NJJb If you're seeing "Download Now" I assume you have gotten past the Live ID logon, profile update and gotten your Product key? The download uses an ActiveX control or Java applet download manager. Assuming you are on Windows :-) try your download in IE, and allow the ActiveX control to install.
- Karim
I have Windows 7 beta running on an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4000+ with 2 Gig of Ram and it runs better then Vista Home Premium did. The only issue is I can not get my Netgear SC101 NAS box to recognize. Does anyone have any ideas?
- Rob Cairns
"windows", "winner" - is this an example of #15, say something outrageous ;-)
- Neil Saunders
Peter Simard: That's awesome! I'm sure you backed up first, but were quite relieved it all went well. :) Rob Cairns: I didn't even know the SC101 worked with Vista in the first place... I gave up on that thing so long ago. That is probably the only piece of hardware I've ever regretted buying. Though it sounds like you've had a good experience with it if you're still using it. I'd say wait a few days and see if anybody comes up with a solution. I took a cursory glance and didn't find any info...
- Dr. Apps
from twhirl
Robert - Using it since late yesterday. On two boxes, more stable than the original final releases of Windows NT and/or Windows 2000. More drivers supported up front than in Vista. Think MS learned something and the download limit drop will bring a lot of embedded techies. It's a win.
- Charlie Anzman
Thanks for being on the bleeding edge, just about to load the Windows 7 beta myself.. Good to know it upgraded properly for you.
- TechMama Beth Blecherman
I'm going to download it tonight Can't wait!
- Michael Fidler
It was a long upgrade for me... but overall I like it.
- Jason Womick
Been very happy with Windows 7 so far. Many subtle improvements add up to a much better product than Vista.
- Jim Bednarz
I am happy with Windows 7. Fresh install was effortless, but after the install and adding all possible board drivers, four "System Interrupts" entries remain yellow. At least the LAN connectors worked immediately.
- Robert Miller
I put win7 on a Toshiba Satellite a65 from 2003 and it works better than xp did
- Todd Loren Sinclair
Stephen : The upgrade was painless 90 minutes or so and a couple of reboots later. The only issue I had as previously mentioned was my Netgear Sc 101 issue - it did work on Vista. It expires in August
- Rob Cairns
time to change your passwords I think.
- Nigel Kitchen
Kevin: no kidding, less than 24 hours. And it looks like www.tweetmanager.com (aka www.twautor.com) has been on the auction block as well.
- Renee Hendricks
I warned Alex at Twitter about this on the dev list, suggesting something like this would happen shortly. They just don't care about putting it as priority for some reason. Other things are more important to them.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - that sounds rather irresponsible on twitter's part... dang, that's not cool
- Susan Beebe
Another benefit of friending early adopters, you learn from their errors.
- Phil Boiarski
It's not fair to blame Alex or Twitter. They have a huge workload, and can't babysit every net user that decides to put their credentials into a STRANGE site that's existed for 15 minutes.
- Ed Shahzade /NextInstinct
Paul, you're wrong: Twitter sends you a mail ONLY with direct messages, not replies: check it out. However, if you want to receive a mail with your replies WITHOUT giving away your password you can use this: http://replies.twitapps.com/
- Jordi Soler
"Your password is safe with us. No worries!" (c) twply.com. Seriously, this is getting ugly. I didn't use twply, but the idea of entering one website's password on the other website is disgusting. Isn't that what API keys were invented for?
- andrei_c
@wahn API keys are for service owner control (granulated usually at worst level ;) not necessarily for your control over 3rd party use ;)
- A.T.
API keys are useful for figuring out what 3rd party app is generating traffic and supplying via/from text. OpenID, OAuth and the other authentication specs need to be implemented to supply third party access, or they must increase the breadth of their API.
- Rob Diana
FriendFeed's remote key could be all Twitter needs to use to avoid this. Simple but effective.
- Sgt Ret
$1200 isn't much. I'm glad I didn't sign up to this service. I will no longer use any service that is going to ask for my username and password unless I know the owner.
- Tamar Weinberg
From the title, I thought Twitter had found a revenue model. :-P
- Jared B. Luther
this whole thing seems blown out of proportion. they sold the business, that doesn't mean the new owner is going to do some nefarious thing with the passwords. It's on the users to safeguard their passwords if they are so freaked out about it.
- Laura Norvig
Laura: it should have been sold without gathering user/pass info. That is nefarious and it stinks. Yes, it's on the users to safeguard their info. But be serious, how long have people been warning others about this?? And it really has sunk in, hasn't it? How many signed up before Twply was sold? I'm trying to inform the new owner of tweetmanager that it would be in his interest to let the twitter public know that he has no intention of doing something "nefarious" with the user/pass info he has.
- Renee Hendricks
"I'm in the UK and I'm casting my vote on Digg to show my support for President-elect Barack Obama. A big thank you to America for helping to change the world as we know it. Roll on January 20, 2009 !!"
- Nigel Kitchen
"Fantastic Performance!! - Whatever happens in the show, he'll get a record deal without a doubt in my mind! Check out his interview: http://mfile2.akamai.com/12621..."
- Nigel Kitchen