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Calling for open | Chris Saad – Paying Attention - http://blog.areyoupayingattention.com/2009...
Louis Gray, Susan Beebe, Chris Saad and 4 other people liked this
Re: Twitter access being cut off, I'm not sure that's exactly true. The FriendFeed team has said openly they're just working out the legal details right now. My guess is that now that they're owned by Facebook, Inc. their previous contract is no longer applicable and they now have to come to terms in a manner that works well in a relationship Twitter could have with Facebook. I predict as soon as that is worked out real-time Twitter feeds will be back, unless the FriendFeed team specifically says otherwise.
- Jesse Stay
what they've said has varied, including most recently the statement by Bret Taylor at the CrunchUp that it's with the lawyers. Can't recall another such comment by a third party aggregator.
- Steve Gillmor
sounds like there was no change of control provision in the firehose agreement
- nik
that would be one way of putting it. another would be that there was never an agreement.
- Steve Gillmor
Trusting either Twitter or Facebook to be open is a bad bet — as geeks we need to be supporting an open standard! Steve Gillmor and Techcrunch should be pushing rssCloud 24/7...
- Michael Pinto
I'm not pushing anything but what I think is happenning. You can trust that or not, your choice.
- Steve Gillmor
You don't "push things" but you are an influencer! What the real time web doesn't need is another two monopolies that control the market. I'd wish you'd get Dave Winer on the show, of course I also spent too many years wishing that the Beatles would get back together too (insert guilt trip here)...
- Michael Pinto
neither are monopolies. Unlikely that either Dave or I want him to be on the show at this point.
- Steve Gillmor
Neither are monopolies — yet! As for Dave the only thing I can think of is to bribe him, but sadly the $10 that I'd be able to offer him won't impress...
- Michael Pinto
as long as both exist there is no monopoly.
- Karoli
Karoli if either service can kick you off that's a monopoly, if you can't get to part of your social graph from one to another that's a monopoly too. I want to own my list.
- Michael Pinto
Interesting question, Michael. Without twitter, lots of folks on my follow list wouldn't be accessible to me. (FB is another story entirely...I'd like to be LESS accessible there).
- Karoli
Side Note Karoli: It's not that I don't value both, but I wish there was a "Linux" to that PC/Mac game as an alternative if you know what I mean. And maybe that alternative is just for 5% of the crazy hippies, but I think having choices is a good thing. Also frankly since FriendFeed was acquired it means that there is less choice.
- Michael Pinto
sounds like we need that public option Steve was talking about. ;-)
- Karoli
Karoli, I don't get the "less accessible" thing for Facebook. That's one use, but the normal Facebook account is apples and oranges to Twitter. It's Facebook Fan Pages that are the comparison to Twitter, and I recommend everyone try to be as accessible as they can via a Fan Page.
- Jesse Stay
I don't like the way Facebook takes everyone I know from cradle to middle age, personal to professional, geeks to church folks and mashes them up into a social graph. Hate it.
- Karoli
agree with Karoli on that point. Different flavors for different moods...
- Mark Forman
Karoli, it sounds like you need to set up some lists in Facebook - Facebook is very flexible
- Jesse Stay
i have lists. I'm still not going to post political stuff to FB. Why? Because my ex, my husband, and my inlaws are there. All differ 180 degrees from me. any of them can view my wall, my status if they want.
- Karoli
Karoli, sounds like you need a Facebook Page for your political stuff then
- Jesse Stay
And if it's a photo or video you can target by list so only specific lists can see the photos or videos. Status updates are coming soon, so I hear.
- Jesse Stay
yeah I stopped posting my tweets to FB once my mom's friends started joining. Didn't feel like explaining my sense of humor to them :D
- Mark Forman
identi.ca is an open alternative to Twitter.
- howard shippin
Howard, I keep pointing to identi.ca as an alternative, but it's too geeky to get traction.
- Justin Whitaker
Distributed social networking like identi.ca is the way to go; agree howard. See also: Socnode project.
- Itachi
ASUS | Eee PC Sales Figures - http://eeepc.asus.com/global...
10,000 in 2 weeks, 35,000 in first month, 3-5M in first year
- nik
Liliputing — Compact Computing - http://www.liliputing.com/
blog on netbookx
- nik
Msi Wind Forums • View topic - BIGGER battery? 7400mAh Battery with 8 hours of life! - http://forums.msiwind.net/viewtop...
battery hacking
- nik
Liliputing - Liliputer comparison chart - http://www.liliputing.com/liliput...
database of netbook pc's
- nik
Asus Eee News, Mods, and Hacks - http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/
tablet
- nik
Secret Origin of the OLPC: Genius, Hubris and the Birth of the Netbook - http://gizmodo.com/5041765...
background on olpc
- nik
OLPC Origins: US and Taiwan's Hardware Lovechild - http://gizmodo.com/5042466...
background on olpc
- nik
When To Use Magazine-Style Themes For Blogs? | How-To | Smashing Magazine - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
excellent and in-depth article about blogs moving to magazing-style designs and templates
- nik
2 Girls, 1 Cup: The Real Poop - November 30, 2007 - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...
The guy who produced '2 girls 1 cup' was indicted for the content of the videos he produced because they are obscene. The killer here is that the guy is a Brazillian who lives in Brazil, but was indicted and served when he visited the USA because he sold videos online to a US audience. I think the video is totally sick, but this is both a first ammendement issue as well as a more important issue of a non-US citizen being indicted in the USA for nothing more than having his content online. This makes the USA the de facto Internet police, and US law the de facto online law (which was happening anyway, as countries such as Australia and Canada quickly follow and implement US digital and net policy such as the DMCA and more draconian IP and patent law. This practice is almost enforced on other countries because of the various free and non-free trade agreements the USA has, and the general trade negotiating leverage that the USA has)
- nik
The Comeback Id: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com - http://www.vanityfair.com/politic...
Details of Bill Clinton's dirty dealings (both sex and business) since leaving the White House. This is the infamous Vanity Fair article by Todd Perdum, it was infamous and inflamed the left only because it was so true and the timing of it was seen as politically motivated - just as HRC was struggling to pick back up in the race against Obama
- nik
The Front-Runner’s Fall - http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
Interesting story from The Atlantic on the Hillary campaign. The writer sourced a stack of internal emails and memos that showed just how arrogant and disorganized the campaign was. After reading this I am glad that Obama won, although we will probably find out the dirty details of his own campaign much later (perhaps after he loses the upcoming election because of his mis-steps in the past few months)
- nik
It's "attack early adopter" day today.
| Balu |, Kevin LaHaise, Richard ¿digame? Walker and 20 other people liked this
why? whats happened?
- Zee.
I think Robert means to get as many new people into friendfeed as possible
- Jay
oh...i thought early adopters were getting attacked
- Zee.
Aww, was it the Mashable article?
- Daynah
The Center Networks piece?
- Chris Baskind
Zee: you gotta check out http://mashable.com/2008... and http://www.winextra.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
Steven Hodson's piece
- Hutch Carpenter
lol
- Jay
link?
- Duncan Riley
If we didn't have early adopters we'd never know what's good and what's not.
- Alex Scoble
Chris: nah, Allen at CN is right that the recommended page in FriendFeed is totally not good for us. I don't want to be a default.
- Robert Scoble
I'm about as early as they come, and I don't feel attacked? :)
- l0ckergn0me
So Mashable just called each and every one of their readers douchebags. I'm sure this made sense in a meeting at some point...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
l0ckergnome: tomorrow is pick on Chris Pirillo day. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tomorrow shall be fun. :) Let's start with the hat. heh
- Daynah
@Robert, I think you started with the labeling
- Jason Carreira
hmm I'm up for that!
- Jay
But aren't we all early adopters of FriendFeed? We WERE here before the new one launched! :)
- Mona Nomura
I think some people don't like early adopters who adopt early just to show off their new "toys". If the intention is otherwise, than I say these people are pioneers. Hats off to you for that, and taking all the flak for it.
- Josh Haley
ugh, can't stand Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins after he made some retarded remarks re:Loren Feldman and race and all that bull. I think I ended up blocking him here. can't remember. I usually like Mashable, too. he's tainting it. that "your mom would use it" bit is faintly but irritatingly sexist.
- Kamilah Gill
Just gets more fun every day doesn't it. @Robert Mona was here before you ... she just didn't tell anyone. She was 'hiding' herself.
- Charlie Anzman
OK seriously you guys, stop. This will now be the second night I've not gamed and instead sat here with popcorn. How am I going to ever get my friggin S2 or finish Twilight Princess (round 3)?!
- Candace
Charlie: there were thousands of people here when I joined in February. I'm hardly the "earliest" adopter. I just watch what a large group of early adopters tries and uses and wait for the first wave to repeat to me over and over that something is cool. That's how I found Evernote.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Louis, I'm grateful for early adopters like you because it allows me to see much more of what's out there than I could see from any traditional source. I get to taste cool technology and play with it, and share it with others. My parents won't use most of it (nor will they use Facebook), but for those that have a use for it I can share it with them. And no, I didn't vote democrat last election and I love Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
Robert (1) I just read the Mashable piece and not only was the stereotype way off (at least where I'm concerned) but I think I just wasted 10 minutes reading the piece and the comments. (2) The other post about you and Mona was a joke (3) I will continue to idolize both you and Louis :)
- Charlie Anzman
BTW, it's posts like this that have caused me to remove Mashable from my RSS Reader (that, and his Mormon post a week ago where he quoted me entirely out of context). I'm losing respect for Mark's posts lately.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - My Mom still won't use a microwave ...
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, my dad still uses a handsaw and refuses to buy most electrical tools
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Jesse: I think it's funny to be attacked for being an early adopter by a site that reprints press releases and competes with TechCrunch to get onto TechMeme with the latest shiny object release. I also didn't get why my politics got pulled into a discussion about early adopter behavior, either. But, hey, makes for some entertaining reading at 5 a.m. in Berlin.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah - it seems he's looking for the latest topic that brings in traffic. I hope that isn't the case. What I like about "early adopters" is they're real people like you and me, living the technology they're talking about.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
All I know is if I flew around as much as Robert, I'd be seriously dizzy!
- Charlie Anzman
I like you Charlie - you bring reality to every situation :-)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Robert - back up your statements. Show me a press release we've reprinted. We never attacked you or even early adopters - I described a stereotype - apparently I struck too close to home with you, and you felt you needed to lash out at us.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
That's every day, no?
- john conroy
so Mashable are just saying that they aren't as passionate about new products and startups as Robert and Louis are? No surprise there - we knew that before because it comes across in the difference between how the passionate early adopters like Robert and Louis cover technology and how Mashable covers it. There is a lot of irony to that post that I think buzzed over the authors head.
- nik
As I said in a recent post, early adopters are some of the most generous people I know. And I'm a cranky old fart, too.
- Ro (Lilyhill)
I checked out the Mashable "article" and it looks like a transparent flamebaiting write-up. They seem to be just fishing for page hits.
- Chris Luckhardt
Irony is awesome.
- Paul Reynolds
Come on guys - There's a simple view of all this: There's passionates, non-passionates and then PR people...damn PR people suck!
- Kevin LaHaise
Am I wrong but does the new TechCrunch design have 30% less room for content? More toolbars and widgets! Looks cool, but is harder to read.
Mark Douglass, Nicholas James, Nick Mutton and 14 other people liked this
Looks like they dedicated about 30% of that space to upcoming advertising??
- Jim McCusker
I agree as far as it goes for the main page, at post level and comments i actually quite like the change.
- Majento
Hmm, not bad; a little crowded.
- Mark Evans
The change in font size is good.
- Majento
It looks nice after halfway down and individual post looks nice too
- Brenda McLaren
I wonder what the ratio of people going to the site vs. RSS is. RSS wouldn't see a difference.
- Louis Gray
I could dig up and post exact numbers Louis. Only ~20% of website hits are to the homepage or one of the main pages - so we worked on having the article pages nice. Still a lot more to come out in terms of both design and features.
- nik
Makes sense, Nik. That's likely true across the Web, especially in the tech blog space. Thanks for the answer.
- Louis Gray
The homepage *is* busy. But, overall, I really like the new design. And the article pages are clean and modern.
- Chris Baskind
@Nik Cubrilovic: I love TechCrunch (& predominantly hit via the homepage) but am a little disappointed. I appreciate your position but believe you can find a better, more homepage_reader-friendly solution. On my screen there is still a sizeable margin on either side - I suggest you tweak your layout to increase article space and fill-out the article column to full width after the advertising panel. Please let me know what you think.
- Nick Mutton
It may have less content room but I do like the design alot more. It's alot cleaner.
- Aaron Myers
Aaron: it's cleaner, yes, but now you need to click each article to read the article. Great, generates another page view which is great for advertising, but it's definitely harder to read. Luckily we have RSS, but how long will TC keep giving us full text feeds?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Eh! I didn't even pay that much attention, my fault. I read my RSS feeds in NetVibes as well as FeedBurner e-mails that come throughout the day. You are right, after a 2nd look - I don't like that I have to make the "jump" to read the whole article.
- Aaron Myers
@Nick: Thats a good point, we are trying to make the width fluid but its not easy to do well. At the moment the width is fixed and thus we need to aim it at the lowest common screen width which nowadays is 1024
- nik
@Aaron. The full articles are now on the permalink because the homepage was becoming too long. Posting full content in chronological order works to a certain point and then it just breaks. We can now have a lot more content on the homepage and users can get a snapshot of the days stories. When you are on the permalink page you can click next/prev story. We have never been pageview driven, if we were we would do what CNET and others do and provide just headlines in RSS and all the other tricks.
- nik
We are just over a single pageview per visitor at the moment, and will always have full text feeds. we are also fully open with crunchbase as well and let anybody suck data. so talking about Techcrunch and pageview whoring at the same time will always be a null argument (same with the outbound link meme from last week). there are a hundred other sites we could bitch about when it comes to pageview whoring :)
- nik
You guys actually visit the website? (Instead of subscribing through your RSS reader)?
- Nikhil Dandekar
We actually did the same thing over at Mashable last month - we decided since my editorials and Sean's lists were consistently running multiple screenfuls (as well as most news posts running longer) that it'd be best to just to put a more thing in than sacrifice load times, a stat which has never been pretty on our site.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
it gives me an horizontal scroll bar with a 1024 resolution... not nice :-(
- Marcos Marado
True. You need at least one more click (from homepage) to read a full article. Greader still looks like the best way to read/follow TC.
- Martin Añazco
I also thought it was hard to read, or clearly focus on what was important. It screams, just read my RSS.
- Dan Rockwell
from twhirl
Yeah, I think it looks like it's 2/3rds ads now.
- Dawn
Seems like more ads to me
- Dave Peck
seems like advertising is first priority and content is second.
- Eric Sessions
TechCrunch hasn't provided anything more substantive than ads for some time. Yawn. So glad I unsubscribed from TC.
- Tom Morris
looks more magazine-format - maximize ad space
- Morgan
the rss feed looks the same
- Stefan Hayden
What is the correct response to an argument that is entirely nonsense?
Vincent Wright, Kol Tregaskes, Evan Brown and 11 other people liked this
time to grab the next round!
- nik
just bring up something completely irrelevant to the topic & watch their expression.
- Zee.
It depends on the person. Sometimes it is better to laugh or just nod your head and smile. Other times you should explain to them why it's nonsense. Or my preferred response, "I don't know where to begin telling you what's wrong with your argument".
- Gabe
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- j1m
Depends on the environment and the participants.
- Amit Morson
+1 Gabe, though I daresay returning nonsense in a similar vein is also rather entertaining
- Mo Kargas
I would love to know, even though I should know better than to "feed the trolls" http://beta.friendfeed.com/e...
- Mustafa K. Isik
In some ways, nonsense is more poweful than a factual argument, because it can't really be argued against. It reminds me of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Paul Buchheit
Paul I would suggest just changing the subject abruptly. :P
- mjc
When you find out, let me know.... I have a lot of ignorant conservative cousins....
- Ňicķ
True, nonsense is hard to argue against, it's based in fantasy. Kind of like, ohh, I don't know, a few memorable moments in the Bush presidency.
- Mo Kargas
sympathetic quietness
- Pokai
Say, "After we both are dead, and in heaven, and have a perfect knowledge of all things, you will look back on this moment, and realize that I was right".
- Louis Gray
"No comment".
- Mohamed J
Most of the time people are just trying to get a rise out of you... they like arguing. There's nothing you can logically say, because logic isn't their motive for continuing the discussion.
- Frankie Warren
Ask them how they would use pinkbox testing to prove their assertion.
- Kevin Fox
Tip your hat and say you sir are a dumbass, And then walk away :D
- Moved to Facebook
Hey it;s nice seeing you again. Sorry, I have to take off. See you later. Yah
- Rodfather
"is this a five minute argument, or the full half-hour?" http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- David Vasileff
@David: Monty Python. FTW!
- Mustafa K. Isik
New nonsense can help:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
+1 David's Monty Python WIN.
- Voyagerfan5761
Say something mildly baffling or diverting, like: "Whoever controls the ability to exert veiled mind-control through pontification controls the strategic high-ground of meme distribution. Your thoughts?"
- Sean McBride
Fighting nonsense with nonsense: nonsense that is seemingly or almost sensible is more effective (and fun) than nonsense that is plainly nonsense.
- Sean McBride
I just stick with: "Goodnight, mother."
- dkb
from Alert Thingy
1up dkb
- mjc
Silence is the worst way to respond as I have found out recently!
- Joe Dawson
Politely argue your side of things. If the other person is emotional, explain that you would like to continue this conversation, but that you'd like to do so when (s)he's calmed down. Never lower yourself to that level.
- Vincent van Wylick
The internet answered this with "Don't feed the trolls". Otherwise, record it, put it on YouTube and see if the nonsense becomes a meme.
- Philipp Lenssen
I find it's helpful to figure out if your adversary need to be right or just needs to be heard and proceed accordingly.
- Sarah Miller
Silence:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Maybe you guys should take this to a room
- Charlie Anzman
I prefer "what color is the sky in your world"
- mike "glemak" dunn
The correct response is to ask a clarifying question that pinpoints the nonsense, e.g. "I don't want to argue with you without completely understanding what you're saying. Are you saying that the record company's infringement is in doubt because of what planet Chewbacca lives on?" Sometimes they'll recognize their own nonsense. Sometimes they'll help you see that it wasn't nonsense; you simply misunderstood them.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
"I love lamp" for me.
- Sam Ee
A 5 sec silence,..
- Varun Mahajan
how bout a hug?
- Yu-Shan
a question that lays bare the nonsense
- Ranjit Mathoda
'Yes Dear."
- Steve C
If it's face-to-face, a withering look will often suffice. Failing that, an equally nonsensical challenge to a nonsensical argument
- Slappy Line
x girls y cups - http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics...
sean percival liked this
invaluable data
- sean percival
well having FF pick up the image and post it didnt work :)
- nik
I will be throwing parties every night of Web 2.0 NY Sept. 16-19th. Bottles, Models, and umm geeks. Details coming.
nik, Julio F ~ @SocialJulio, jk5027a and Fred Grott liked this
are you coming to TC50 as well?
- Orli Yakuel
Does this mean that startups on the East Coast will be dropping by your place to pitch you?
- Jay Cuthrell
Very funny.
- loren feldman
i was actually serious. will be a pleasure to finally meet you.
- Orli Yakuel
Orli, I was talking to Jay. At present I do not have plans to be at tc50.
- loren feldman
oh sorry. bummer about tc50.
- Orli Yakuel
depending on what the bottles contain, im up for a party
- nik
You in town for it Nik?
- loren feldman
didnt even know about it but i am beginning to think that i might have to
- nik
Web 2.0 NYC should be silly, but my parties are going to rock. Im dying to see the remote control you are building.
- loren feldman
ye i just have to build a $200 wet dream for some dude who thinks he is steve jobs between now and then
- nik
I wanna help Nik. Not many people knows this about me, but I went to Cooper Union and have an industrial engineering degree.
- loren feldman
Neat! Industrial engineering? Did you go into that field after college or run away screaming? (I've got a Materials Sci&Eng degree, btw)
- Jay Cuthrell
After I left the Wilford Academy Of Beauty
- loren feldman
building a web tablet.
Nenad Nikolic liked this
How far have you gone with it? Wha't the site to track progress and chime in? Cheers Nik!
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
we have a dev site but it isn't public yet. throwing together the framework and spec for both hardware and software, and then we will open it up. its more of a gradual opening process to prevent chaos :) if your interested in more and can't wait, email me on nik@techcrunch.com.
- nik
Q1 Ultra Premium XP (Intel Core Solo ULV CPU U1500 Processor, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB Hard Drive, Windows XP) - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Brian Daniel Eisenberg liked this
absolutely horrible device. have one here. worst of the mini-pc's
- nik
Analyst smashes the Intel Atom - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news...
atom v arm comparison
- nik
Analyst smashes the Intel Atom - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news...
atom v arm comparison
- nik
cutting my ear off and mailing it to arrington
?
- Keith Teare
from feedalizr
dont read too much into it :)
- nik
Could you please take a picture while doing that. ;-)
- Vic Podcaster
We just pushed a new feature on Seesmic: blocking users, highly requested. Find it under someone's profile you can block = hide all from him
Duncan Riley liked this
your assuming its a 'him' that needs to be blocked :)
- nik
Dissident’s Tale of Epic Escape From Iran’s Vise - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
j.a, Raoul Pop, Javid★ and 26 other people liked this
"In several lengthy interviews, Mr. Batebi provided an unusual window on Iran under its ruling clerics. His alienation began at age 9, when he witnessed a deadly stoning. He rose to fame in 1999, appearing on the cover of The Economist magazine holding the bloody T-shirt of a fellow student demonstrator — an image he first saw when a judge slapped it before him and declared, “You have signed your own death sentence.” Finally, after a decade of political combat, he reluctantly decided to abandon Iran for an uncertain exile."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
فوتوشاپه بابا....:)
- ashkan
Iran's tank man - I can't believe he survived and is here now. Considering my own father was arrested, imprisoned and then escaped from his home country only to never go back, I have nothing but extreme empathy for the people of Iran and what they have had to experience not just since the revolution, but with the Shah and beforehand. So much misunderstanding in the west, as we dont realize that the large majority of the world dont live with the same freedoms we enjoy and instead we demonize them as groups
- nik
ha?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Zahra HB
unbelievable story. :(
- Chris Farrugia
ای چیز میگیل
- Nimaa
Batebi's Yahoo blog: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kj...
- Andrew Meyer
عکس دستکاری شده است اصل عکسو دیدم .. احمد تنهاست
- Dadash Hadi
اون خانوم وکیلشه! در مصاحبه اومده!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
thanks Nik for your empathy with us! !
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
نشون داد برای ایرانش شعار نمیداد برای خودش شعار میداد....اول میومد از شرمندگیه وثیقه ای که بابتش ازاد شد در میومد بعد میرفت دنبال عشق و حالش
- joupy
If the Economist didn't publish that photo on its cover those days, nothing happened for him. sorry for economist .they don't seem to be friend of Iranians
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
it does not require Western press to make a demon out of Iran..they kind of do it to themselves with any press help
- Fred Grott
If he win, surly he will do it!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
بابا جلو این خارجی ها آبرو ریزی نکنین ! این وکیلشه !
- Javid★
China Makes, The World Takes - http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
Today, Americans walk the streets of China and see their movies, music, software, and books sold everywhere in cheap pirate versions. A century and a half ago, Charles Dickens walked the streets of young America and fumed to see his novels in cheap pirate
- nik
China Makes, The World Takes - http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
Today, Americans walk the streets of China and see their movies, music, software, and books sold everywhere in cheap pirate versions. A century and a half ago, Charles Dickens walked the streets of young America and fumed to see his novels in cheap pirate
- nik
Top 10 Best Ever Hackers - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Ric Johnson, Kol Tregaskes, Robert Scoble and 11 other people liked this
Thought this was a list of hackers, not crackers and phreaks.
- Brad Collins
from twhirl
Having Shawn Fanning at #1 puts that list in the top 10 list of all-time stupid top 10 lists, no matter how you define the word hacker.
- Ross McKillop
Got a point there...
- Brad Collins
from twhirl
@Louis... Really would appreciate your help Louis, you always talk about the little guy.. :) I post here in FF here, could you take a look, pls. http://tinyurl.com/6dx23z Sorry for asking, and no its not like me to do it.
- Roger Kondrat
@Ross McKillop... took the words right out of my mouth. It's one thing to respect the guy as a software developer. But seriously. #1 hacker? With Kevin Mitnick sneaking in halfway down the list? Nah.
- Derrick Burns
The best hackers evaded publicity and so aren't on the list.
- Jonathon
I think kevin is the best, use to be his fan back in 2000 :)
- Live Crunch Blog
Shawn Fanning was right place right time.... not a hacker. Mitnick is #1
- andy brudtkuhl
Ross: you obviously have no idea who ADM are
- nik
nik - good job, given that you were defining these by degree of effect - can find no fault (yes - the really good are unknown to but a few)...
- mike "glemak" dunn
Are these guys 'hackers', or 'crackers'? sometimes it's important to call a cat a cat, a dog a dog.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Hackers are hackers, I never bought into the whole distinction and adoption of the word by people who are basically decent programmers.
- nik
Re: Sponsored post by Robert Scoble - http://www.loiclemeur.com/english...
Evan Brown, Luca Filigheddu, Joao and 7 other people liked this
"I wanted to support TechMeme. It has brought me so much value over the past couple of years that I wanted to repay Gabe for all his work. But, on the other hand, this is the only way to get links to videos onto TechMeme. And, more and more of the influencers in the industry are on FriendFeed and Twitter and not on TechMeme and that's who I want to reach."
- Robert Scoble
The Techmeme quandary for Gabe. I get his need to grow it by mainstreaming it, but he's losing the influencer crowd in the process, and that to me was always the perceived value proposition in advertising on Techmeme.
- Duncan Riley
Duncan: yup, and by not putting comments like FriendFeed has on each item, he's really losing a big opportunity. But, I get it too. It's too bad, I used to be a total addict to Techmeme. Now I'm lucky if I check it once a day. Last week I didn't even do that a couple days and I found myself not missing it at all. Interesting how my own usage has changed so much.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Duncan, the idea that Techmeme is losing influencers to FriendFeed is something you only hear on FriendFeed, usually by people who aren't very influential, and who in fact still read Techmeme. In short, it's a complete farce. Robert, I very much appreciate the support and am pleased Techmeme is introducing your videos to influencers who aren't FriendFeed users.
- Gabe Rivera
Gabe just dissed those of you on FriendFeed! Awesome. Food fight! Yes, only Gabe Rivera really knows if you are influential or not. Fortune videos get millions of views per month and, yet, aren't on TechMeme. "Not influential!" Rivera cries. FriendFeed gets me more traffic to my blog than TechMeme. "Not influential!" Rivera cries. Ahh, the influence of it all!
- Robert Scoble
It's this simple: The answer is "Both". Now stop picking on Gabe. :-)
- Louis Gray
Gabe, dissing the competition wont win you any friends at all, and that you choose to insult the many fine people here on FriendFeed...well, I'll let others make a call on that.
- Duncan Riley
Duncan: he can diss away. After all, you aren't influential, in Gabe's world. No go to sleep and leave the real bloggers to their jobs!
- Robert Scoble
The rate-card for Techmeme isn't bad, $5500/month. I might just be tempted to 'sponsor' Techmeme myself: http://techmeme.com/sponsor
- Brandon
Robert, if you read my comment really carefully, you'll note I didn't say any of that. So please go ahead and tear apart those straw men. I'll congratulate you when you're done.
- Gabe Rivera
Scoble, if you look at the data, I only ceased being influential after I fell out with Arrington, indeed I'm coming up to my 1 month anniversary of the last time The Inquisitr had a headline on Techmeme (despite about 2 dozen the month leading up to that). I've got a nice bottle of Moet Chandon in the fridge for the day ;-)
- Duncan Riley
Duncan, I didn't insult any FriendFeedtards. Until just now, oops.
- Gabe Rivera
Duncan: Gabe's right on second reading. He basically just said that Scoble and Riley don't have any influence. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Duncan: I haven't had many headlines on Techmeme either, but then, I've been FriendFeeding instead of blogging so I've made an explicit choice there.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, me I get not being there, but for you not being on Techmeme....that's beyond any rationalization.
- Duncan Riley
By the way, 30% of the Fortune audience tonight says they read FriendFeed. The influence is building. I'm investing my time here because this is where the action increasingly is. I invested a lot of time on TechMeme long before anyone knew what it was, too.
- Robert Scoble
Duncan: actually, seriously, I haven't been doing much blogging lately. You've gotta blog to get on TechMeme. FriendFeed doesn't get onto TechMeme, even when I break news here. And, even worse, really great videos that break news and get large and influential audiences don't ever get on TechMeme. Only blogs.
- Robert Scoble
While I'd love a world where all bloggers succeed financially, it's not realistic. I'd "trust" TechMeme more if it only ever included stuff from content providers who didn't give a rat's behind whether they were on TechMeme or not. If TechMeme is vital to the survival of your blog, I probably don't care what you have to say.
- Robert Seidman
Until I can post a video-comment directly on your FriendFeed thread, I don't really see the added value of this. The current rise of laziness does not directly correlate to the fall of blogs.
- Andy Sternberg
Andy: go leave a Seesmic and post the URL in here. That's a video comment. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: my survival does not rely on being on TechMeme. That's one reason I don't care if I blog anymore or not. I'll blog when I have something to say that requires more text than about 200 characters.
- Robert Scoble
Speaks volumes about the mutable definition of influence, and the great rolling feast of popular attention.
- Chris Baskind
Robert, Techmeme wasn't a huge driver of traffic if when I did get headlines on it.
- Duncan Riley
It seems to me you're doing more interesting things now than ever. Time is scarce, I know, but don't say you don't have what to write about anymore.
- Dragos Ilinca
from twhirl
Duncan: still isn't. I was on the top of TechMeme last week and got something like 1,400 visits the first day. My Tapulous video got 30,000 in the past week, I think it got onto Digg or something. Still am not sure. The BBC home page brings 10,000 usually. But I know a lot of influencers read TechMeme, so it was good for making a conversation happen. You'll get on again, I'm watching your content and it's quite good.
- Robert Scoble
Dragos: thanks. Life is over the top interesting for me right now, agreed. And that's translating into videos and FriendFeeds that are very interesting.
- Robert Scoble
I read all your blogs more than I visit techmeme, though the WeSmirch.com (TechMeme's entertainment/gossip sister site) "river" is in my Google Reader and I read it religously. The great thing about the Internet -- you're never trapped into using only one thing (Louis Gray is right again)
- Robert Seidman
Robert you need to look at how you got those visitors. TM leads to other bloggers reading, links, diggs etc. People use TM because they dont have time to even follow 10 feeds in a reader - let alone sit on FriendFeed
- nik
I am sure you know all that though ;)
- nik
Nik: You also have to look at which visitors you get. People who use Techmeme because it's easier likely won't take the time to watch a video, or better, interact with the content they see. (comment on stuff, talk about it, etc.)
- sebmos
Duncan: I hated your sensationalist crap on Techcrunch, I love The Inquisitr. Thanks for not trying to be on Techmeme.
- sebmos
I realize that the algorithm to Techmeme is its "secret sauce" and I'm sure a trade secret (as it should be). But Gabe needs to do more to discuss, in general tems, what the algorithm uses as criteria. I haven't seen much on this and I've read, over time, many people questioning what the criteria of the algorithm are.
- Alex Hammer
i'm a new user, this is a test.
- Patrick
Help build dead simple tablet PC! - http://digg.com/gadgets...
"haha.. awesome if you can port it to javascript or flash, then yes"
- nik
Q: Setting User-Agent Field? - comp.lang.java | Google Groups - http://groups.google.com/group...
Mahesh, Marc Dong, Gavin and 30 other people liked this
"I have a web robot which is a Java app. I need to be able to set the User-Agent field in the HTTP header in order to be a good net citizen (so people know who is accessing their server). Anyone have any ideas? ... Thanks, Larry Page" - Jan 7, 1996
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Is that for realz?
- Yuvi
Yes, it's from the very beginning. Here is Google's history: http://www.google.com/corpora...
- Paul Buchheit
I dug up this page because I was thinking about http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Paul Buchheit
wow. In the beginning, God created.. Google.
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
Ironic that there still isn't a very good solution to that without 3rd party libraries.. (ie, the system property solution works, but affect the entire JVM which is less than ideal. You can manually set the header, but you'd think this would be solved properly by now)
- Nick Lothian
@Nick - you mean, YOU CAN'T SET USERAGENT IN JAVA? :O
- Yuvi
@Yuvi - no, I mean it's a lot less convenient than it should be in a platform that's been around for over10 years (which I guess relates to Paul's thing abotu how long it takes software to get good).
- Nick Lothian
placeholder comment so @jasoncarreira can take a gander.
- Cyndy
@Nick - yup, pretty much any time you need to do HTTP in Java, you should start with HttpClient rather than Java's HttpUrlConnection :)
- Patrick Lightbody
Who does things without 3rd party libraries (and why would you)?
- Jason Carreira
@Nick - my point, pretty much. In most languages I've used, it's a single line change affecting a single instance....
- Yuvi
@Patrick - yes. @Jason - well there are some cases where you don't want to introduce additional dependencies, or you have clashes in dependencies. In this case it's pretty clear the correct answer is "use HttpClient", but I think that it's sad these simple use cases haven't been fixed. They did fix timeouts, so you can set them per connection in JDK 6 (or 5?), but not the user agent thing.
- Nick Lothian
The JDK (especially in its older parts) is full of this sort of global variable disease. The "platform default charset" is my favorite (to hate), though at least most things give you a way to specify an alternate charset.
- Laurence Gonsalves
so this whole time the Java/1.0beta2 bot hitting my servers has been google?
- nik
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