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Calling for open | Chris Saad – Paying Attention - http://blog.areyoupayingattention.com/2009...
Louis Gray, Susan Beebe, Chris Saad and 4 other people liked this
Re: Twitter access being cut off, I'm not sure that's exactly true. The FriendFeed team has said openly they're just working out the legal details right now. My guess is that now that they're owned by Facebook, Inc. their previous contract is no longer applicable and they now have to come to terms in a manner that works well in a relationship Twitter could have with Facebook. I predict as soon as that is worked out real-time Twitter feeds will be back, unless the FriendFeed team specifically says otherwise.
- Jesse Stay
what they've said has varied, including most recently the statement by Bret Taylor at the CrunchUp that it's with the lawyers. Can't recall another such comment by a third party aggregator.
- Steve Gillmor
sounds like there was no change of control provision in the firehose agreement
- nik
that would be one way of putting it. another would be that there was never an agreement.
- Steve Gillmor
Trusting either Twitter or Facebook to be open is a bad bet — as geeks we need to be supporting an open standard! Steve Gillmor and Techcrunch should be pushing rssCloud 24/7...
- Michael Pinto
I'm not pushing anything but what I think is happenning. You can trust that or not, your choice.
- Steve Gillmor
You don't "push things" but you are an influencer! What the real time web doesn't need is another two monopolies that control the market. I'd wish you'd get Dave Winer on the show, of course I also spent too many years wishing that the Beatles would get back together too (insert guilt trip here)...
- Michael Pinto
neither are monopolies. Unlikely that either Dave or I want him to be on the show at this point.
- Steve Gillmor
Neither are monopolies — yet! As for Dave the only thing I can think of is to bribe him, but sadly the $10 that I'd be able to offer him won't impress...
- Michael Pinto
as long as both exist there is no monopoly.
- Karoli
Karoli if either service can kick you off that's a monopoly, if you can't get to part of your social graph from one to another that's a monopoly too. I want to own my list.
- Michael Pinto
Interesting question, Michael. Without twitter, lots of folks on my follow list wouldn't be accessible to me. (FB is another story entirely...I'd like to be LESS accessible there).
- Karoli
Side Note Karoli: It's not that I don't value both, but I wish there was a "Linux" to that PC/Mac game as an alternative if you know what I mean. And maybe that alternative is just for 5% of the crazy hippies, but I think having choices is a good thing. Also frankly since FriendFeed was acquired it means that there is less choice.
- Michael Pinto
sounds like we need that public option Steve was talking about. ;-)
- Karoli
Karoli, I don't get the "less accessible" thing for Facebook. That's one use, but the normal Facebook account is apples and oranges to Twitter. It's Facebook Fan Pages that are the comparison to Twitter, and I recommend everyone try to be as accessible as they can via a Fan Page.
- Jesse Stay
I don't like the way Facebook takes everyone I know from cradle to middle age, personal to professional, geeks to church folks and mashes them up into a social graph. Hate it.
- Karoli
agree with Karoli on that point. Different flavors for different moods...
- Mark Forman
Karoli, it sounds like you need to set up some lists in Facebook - Facebook is very flexible
- Jesse Stay
i have lists. I'm still not going to post political stuff to FB. Why? Because my ex, my husband, and my inlaws are there. All differ 180 degrees from me. any of them can view my wall, my status if they want.
- Karoli
Karoli, sounds like you need a Facebook Page for your political stuff then
- Jesse Stay
And if it's a photo or video you can target by list so only specific lists can see the photos or videos. Status updates are coming soon, so I hear.
- Jesse Stay
yeah I stopped posting my tweets to FB once my mom's friends started joining. Didn't feel like explaining my sense of humor to them :D
- Mark Forman
Howard, I keep pointing to identi.ca as an alternative, but it's too geeky to get traction.
- Justin Whitaker
ASUS | Eee PC Sales Figures - http://eeepc.asus.com/global...
10,000 in 2 weeks, 35,000 in first month, 3-5M in first year
- nik
Liliputing — Compact Computing - http://www.liliputing.com/
blog on netbookx
- nik
ASUS | Eee PC Sales Figures - http://eeepc.asus.com/global...
10,000 in 2 weeks, 35,000 in first month, 3-5M in first year
- nik
Liliputing — Compact Computing - http://www.liliputing.com/
blog on netbookx
- nik
Msi Wind Forums • View topic - BIGGER battery? 7400mAh Battery with 8 hours of life! - http://forums.msiwind.net/viewtop...
battery hacking
- nik
Msi Wind Forums • View topic - BIGGER battery? 7400mAh Battery with 8 hours of life! - http://forums.msiwind.net/viewtop...
battery hacking
- nik
Liliputing - Liliputer comparison chart - http://www.liliputing.com/liliput...
database of netbook pc's
- nik
Asus Eee News, Mods, and Hacks - http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/
tablet
- nik
Asus Eee News, Mods, and Hacks - http://asuseeehacks.blogspot.com/
tablet
- nik
Liliputing - Liliputer comparison chart - http://www.liliputing.com/liliput...
database of netbook pc's
- nik
OLPC Origins: US and Taiwan's Hardware Lovechild - http://gizmodo.com/5042466...
background on olpc
- nik
Secret Origin of the OLPC: Genius, Hubris and the Birth of the Netbook - http://gizmodo.com/5041765...
background on olpc
- nik
Secret Origin of the OLPC: Genius, Hubris and the Birth of the Netbook - http://gizmodo.com/5041765...
background on olpc
- nik
When To Use Magazine-Style Themes For Blogs? | How-To | Smashing Magazine - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
excellent and in-depth article about blogs moving to magazing-style designs and templates
- nik
2 Girls, 1 Cup: The Real Poop - November 30, 2007 - http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...
The guy who produced '2 girls 1 cup' was indicted for the content of the videos he produced because they are obscene. The killer here is that the guy is a Brazillian who lives in Brazil, but was indicted and served when he visited the USA because he sold videos online to a US audience. I think the video is totally sick, but this is both a first ammendement issue as well as a more important issue of a non-US citizen being indicted in the USA for nothing more than having his content online. This makes the USA the de facto Internet police, and US law the de facto online law (which was happening anyway, as countries such as Australia and Canada quickly follow and implement US digital and net policy such as the DMCA and more draconian IP and patent law. This practice is almost enforced on other countries because of the various free and non-free trade agreements the USA has, and the general trade negotiating leverage that the USA has)
- nik
The Comeback Id: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com - http://www.vanityfair.com/politic...
Details of Bill Clinton's dirty dealings (both sex and business) since leaving the White House. This is the infamous Vanity Fair article by Todd Perdum, it was infamous and inflamed the left only because it was so true and the timing of it was seen as politically motivated - just as HRC was struggling to pick back up in the race against Obama
- nik
The Front-Runner’s Fall - http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
Interesting story from The Atlantic on the Hillary campaign. The writer sourced a stack of internal emails and memos that showed just how arrogant and disorganized the campaign was. After reading this I am glad that Obama won, although we will probably find out the dirty details of his own campaign much later (perhaps after he loses the upcoming election because of his mis-steps in the past few months)
- nik
It's "attack early adopter" day today.
| Balu |, Kevin LaHaise, Richard Walker and 19 other people liked this
why? whats happened?
- Zee.
I think Robert means to get as many new people into friendfeed as possible
- Jay
oh...i thought early adopters were getting attacked
- Zee.
Aww, was it the Mashable article?
- Daynah
Zee: you gotta check out http://mashable.com/2008... and http://www.winextra.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
Steven Hodson's piece
- Hutch Carpenter
lol
- Jay
link?
- Duncan Riley
If we didn't have early adopters we'd never know what's good and what's not.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Chris: nah, Allen at CN is right that the recommended page in FriendFeed is totally not good for us. I don't want to be a default.
- Robert Scoble
I'm about as early as they come, and I don't feel attacked? :)
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
So Mashable just called each and every one of their readers douchebags. I'm sure this made sense in a meeting at some point...
- FFing Enigma
l0ckergnome: tomorrow is pick on Chris Pirillo day. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tomorrow shall be fun. :) Let's start with the hat. heh
- Daynah
@Robert, I think you started with the labeling
- Jason Carreira
hmm I'm up for that!
- Jay
But aren't we all early adopters of FriendFeed? We WERE here before the new one launched! :)
- Mona Nomura
I think some people don't like early adopters who adopt early just to show off their new "toys". If the intention is otherwise, than I say these people are pioneers. Hats off to you for that, and taking all the flak for it.
- Josh Haley
ugh, can't stand Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins after he made some retarded remarks re:Loren Feldman and race and all that bull. I think I ended up blocking him here. can't remember. I usually like Mashable, too. he's tainting it. that "your mom would use it" bit is faintly but irritatingly sexist.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Just gets more fun every day doesn't it. @Robert Mona was here before you ... she just didn't tell anyone. She was 'hiding' herself.
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie: there were thousands of people here when I joined in February. I'm hardly the "earliest" adopter. I just watch what a large group of early adopters tries and uses and wait for the first wave to repeat to me over and over that something is cool. That's how I found Evernote.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Louis, I'm grateful for early adopters like you because it allows me to see much more of what's out there than I could see from any traditional source. I get to taste cool technology and play with it, and share it with others. My parents won't use most of it (nor will they use Facebook), but for those that have a use for it I can share it with them. And no, I didn't vote democrat last election and I love Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
Robert (1) I just read the Mashable piece and not only was the stereotype way off (at least where I'm concerned) but I think I just wasted 10 minutes reading the piece and the comments. (2) The other post about you and Mona was a joke (3) I will continue to idolize both you and Louis :)
- Charlie Anzman
BTW, it's posts like this that have caused me to remove Mashable from my RSS Reader (that, and his Mormon post a week ago where he quoted me entirely out of context). I'm losing respect for Mark's posts lately.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - My Mom still won't use a microwave ...
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, my dad still uses a handsaw and refuses to buy most electrical tools
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Jesse: I think it's funny to be attacked for being an early adopter by a site that reprints press releases and competes with TechCrunch to get onto TechMeme with the latest shiny object release. I also didn't get why my politics got pulled into a discussion about early adopter behavior, either. But, hey, makes for some entertaining reading at 5 a.m. in Berlin.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah - it seems he's looking for the latest topic that brings in traffic. I hope that isn't the case. What I like about "early adopters" is they're real people like you and me, living the technology they're talking about.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
All I know is if I flew around as much as Robert, I'd be seriously dizzy!
- Charlie Anzman
I like you Charlie - you bring reality to every situation :-)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Robert - back up your statements. Show me a press release we've reprinted. We never attacked you or even early adopters - I described a stereotype - apparently I struck too close to home with you, and you felt you needed to lash out at us.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
That's every day, no?
- john conroy
so Mashable are just saying that they aren't as passionate about new products and startups as Robert and Louis are? No surprise there - we knew that before because it comes across in the difference between how the passionate early adopters like Robert and Louis cover technology and how Mashable covers it. There is a lot of irony to that post that I think buzzed over the authors head.
- nik
As I said in a recent post, early adopters are some of the most generous people I know. And I'm a cranky old fart, too.
- Ro (Lilyhill)
Irony is awesome.
- Paul Reynolds
Come on guys - There's a simple view of all this: There's passionates, non-passionates and then PR people...damn PR people suck!
- Kevin LaHaise
Am I wrong but does the new TechCrunch design have 30% less room for content? More toolbars and widgets! Looks cool, but is harder to read.
Mark Douglass, Nick Mutton, Jeff (Team マクダジ ) and 13 other people liked this
Looks like they dedicated about 30% of that space to upcoming advertising??
- Jim McCusker
I agree as far as it goes for the main page, at post level and comments i actually quite like the change.
- Majento
Hmm, not bad; a little crowded.
- Mark Evans
The change in font size is good.
- Majento
It looks nice after halfway down and individual post looks nice too
- Brenda McLaren
I wonder what the ratio of people going to the site vs. RSS is. RSS wouldn't see a difference.
- Louis Gray
I could dig up and post exact numbers Louis. Only ~20% of website hits are to the homepage or one of the main pages - so we worked on having the article pages nice. Still a lot more to come out in terms of both design and features.
- nik
Makes sense, Nik. That's likely true across the Web, especially in the tech blog space. Thanks for the answer.
- Louis Gray
@Nik Cubrilovic: I love TechCrunch (& predominantly hit via the homepage) but am a little disappointed. I appreciate your position but believe you can find a better, more homepage_reader-friendly solution. On my screen there is still a sizeable margin on either side - I suggest you tweak your layout to increase article space and fill-out the article column to full width after the advertising panel. Please let me know what you think.
- Nick Mutton
It may have less content room but I do like the design alot more. It's alot cleaner.
- Aaron Myers
Aaron: it's cleaner, yes, but now you need to click each article to read the article. Great, generates another page view which is great for advertising, but it's definitely harder to read. Luckily we have RSS, but how long will TC keep giving us full text feeds?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Eh! I didn't even pay that much attention, my fault. I read my RSS feeds in NetVibes as well as FeedBurner e-mails that come throughout the day. You are right, after a 2nd look - I don't like that I have to make the "jump" to read the whole article.
- Aaron Myers
@Nick: Thats a good point, we are trying to make the width fluid but its not easy to do well. At the moment the width is fixed and thus we need to aim it at the lowest common screen width which nowadays is 1024
- nik
@Aaron. The full articles are now on the permalink because the homepage was becoming too long. Posting full content in chronological order works to a certain point and then it just breaks. We can now have a lot more content on the homepage and users can get a snapshot of the days stories. When you are on the permalink page you can click next/prev story. We have never been pageview driven, if we were we would do what CNET and others do and provide just headlines in RSS and all the other tricks.
- nik
We are just over a single pageview per visitor at the moment, and will always have full text feeds. we are also fully open with crunchbase as well and let anybody suck data. so talking about Techcrunch and pageview whoring at the same time will always be a null argument (same with the outbound link meme from last week). there are a hundred other sites we could bitch about when it comes to pageview whoring :)
- nik
You guys actually visit the website? (Instead of subscribing through your RSS reader)?
- Nikhil Dandekar
We actually did the same thing over at Mashable last month - we decided since my editorials and Sean's lists were consistently running multiple screenfuls (as well as most news posts running longer) that it'd be best to just to put a more thing in than sacrifice load times, a stat which has never been pretty on our site.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
it gives me an horizontal scroll bar with a 1024 resolution... not nice :-(
- Marcos Marado
True. You need at least one more click (from homepage) to read a full article. Greader still looks like the best way to read/follow TC.
- Martin Añazco
I also thought it was hard to read, or clearly focus on what was important. It screams, just read my RSS.
- Dan Rockwell
from twhirl
Yeah, I think it looks like it's 2/3rds ads now.
- Dawn
Seems like more ads to me
- Dave Peck
seems like advertising is first priority and content is second.
- Eric Sessions
TechCrunch hasn't provided anything more substantive than ads for some time. Yawn. So glad I unsubscribed from TC.
- Tom Morris
looks more magazine-format - maximize ad space
- Morgan
the rss feed looks the same
- Stefan Hayden
What is the correct response to an argument that is entirely nonsense?
Vincent Wright, Kol Tregaskes, Evan Brown and 11 other people liked this
time to grab the next round!
- nik
just bring up something completely irrelevant to the topic & watch their expression.
- Zee.
It depends on the person. Sometimes it is better to laugh or just nod your head and smile. Other times you should explain to them why it's nonsense. Or my preferred response, "I don't know where to begin telling you what's wrong with your argument".
- Gabe
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- j1m
Depends on the environment and the participants.
- Amit Morson
+1 Gabe, though I daresay returning nonsense in a similar vein is also rather entertaining
- Mo Kargas
I would love to know, even though I should know better than to "feed the trolls" http://beta.friendfeed.com/e...
- Mustafa K. Isik
In some ways, nonsense is more poweful than a factual argument, because it can't really be argued against. It reminds me of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Paul Buchheit
Paul I would suggest just changing the subject abruptly. :P
- mjc
When you find out, let me know.... I have a lot of ignorant conservative cousins....
- Nicķ
True, nonsense is hard to argue against, it's based in fantasy. Kind of like, ohh, I don't know, a few memorable moments in the Bush presidency.
- Mo Kargas
sympathetic quietness
- Pokai
Say, "After we both are dead, and in heaven, and have a perfect knowledge of all things, you will look back on this moment, and realize that I was right".
- Louis Gray
"No comment".
- Mohamed J
Most of the time people are just trying to get a rise out of you... they like arguing. There's nothing you can logically say, because logic isn't their motive for continuing the discussion.
- Frankie Warren
Ask them how they would use pinkbox testing to prove their assertion.
- Kevin Fox
Tip your hat and say you sir are a dumbass, And then walk away :D
- Tony C (Unrated)
Hey it;s nice seeing you again. Sorry, I have to take off. See you later. Yah
- Rodfather
"is this a five minute argument, or the full half-hour?" http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- David Vasileff
@David: Monty Python. FTW!
- Mustafa K. Isik
New nonsense can help:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
+1 David's Monty Python WIN.
- dgw
Say something mildly baffling or diverting, like: "Whoever controls the ability to exert veiled mind-control through pontification controls the strategic high-ground of meme distribution. Your thoughts?"
- Sean McBride
Fighting nonsense with nonsense: nonsense that is seemingly or almost sensible is more effective (and fun) than nonsense that is plainly nonsense.
- Sean McBride
I just stick with: "Goodnight, mother."
- dkb
from Alert Thingy
1up dkb
- mjc
Silence is the worst way to respond as I have found out recently!
- Joe Dawson
The internet answered this with "Don't feed the trolls". Otherwise, record it, put it on YouTube and see if the nonsense becomes a meme.
- Philipp Lenssen
I find it's helpful to figure out if your adversary need to be right or just needs to be heard and proceed accordingly.
- Sarah Miller
Silence:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Maybe you guys should take this to a room
- Charlie Anzman
I prefer "what color is the sky in your world"
- mike "glemak" dunn
The correct response is to ask a clarifying question that pinpoints the nonsense, e.g. "I don't want to argue with you without completely understanding what you're saying. Are you saying that the record company's infringement is in doubt because of what planet Chewbacca lives on?" Sometimes they'll recognize their own nonsense. Sometimes they'll help you see that it wasn't nonsense; you simply misunderstood them.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
"I love lamp" for me.
- Sam Ee
A 5 sec silence,..
- Varun Mahajan
how bout a hug?
- Yu-Shan
'Yes Dear."
- SteVe C
x girls y cups - http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics...
sean percival liked this
invaluable data
- sean percival
well having FF pick up the image and post it didnt work :)
- nik
building a web tablet.
Nenad Nikolic liked this
How far have you gone with it? Wha't the site to track progress and chime in? Cheers Nik!
- Nenad Nikolic
from twhirl
we have a dev site but it isn't public yet. throwing together the framework and spec for both hardware and software, and then we will open it up. its more of a gradual opening process to prevent chaos :) if your interested in more and can't wait, email me on nik@techcrunch.com.
- nik
Q1 Ultra Premium XP (Intel Core Solo ULV CPU U1500 Processor, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB Hard Drive, Windows XP) - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
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Brian Daniel Eisenberg liked this
absolutely horrible device. have one here. worst of the mini-pc's
- nik
Analyst smashes the Intel Atom - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news...
atom v arm comparison
- nik
Analyst smashes the Intel Atom - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news...
atom v arm comparison
- nik
cutting my ear off and mailing it to arrington
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- Keith Teare
from feedalizr
dont read too much into it :)
- nik
Could you please take a picture while doing that. ;-)
- Vic Podcaster
We just pushed a new feature on Seesmic: blocking users, highly requested. Find it under someone's profile you can block = hide all from him
Duncan Riley liked this
your assuming its a 'him' that needs to be blocked :)
- nik
Dissident’s Tale of Epic Escape From Iran’s Vise - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
j.a, Raoul Pop, Javid★ and 22 other people liked this
"In several lengthy interviews, Mr. Batebi provided an unusual window on Iran under its ruling clerics. His alienation began at age 9, when he witnessed a deadly stoning. He rose to fame in 1999, appearing on the cover of The Economist magazine holding the bloody T-shirt of a fellow student demonstrator — an image he first saw when a judge slapped it before him and declared, “You have signed your own death sentence.” Finally, after a decade of political combat, he reluctantly decided to abandon Iran for an uncertain exile."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
فوتوشاپه بابا....:)
- kasaiea
Iran's tank man - I can't believe he survived and is here now. Considering my own father was arrested, imprisoned and then escaped from his home country only to never go back, I have nothing but extreme empathy for the people of Iran and what they have had to experience not just since the revolution, but with the Shah and beforehand. So much misunderstanding in the west, as we dont realize that the large majority of the world dont live with the same freedoms we enjoy and instead we demonize them as groups
- nik
ha?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Zahra HB
unbelievable story. :(
- Chris Farrugia
ای چیز میگیل
- Nimaa
عکس دستکاری شده است اصل عکسو دیدم .. احمد تنهاست
- Dadash Hadi
اون خانوم وکیلشه! در مصاحبه اومده!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
thanks Nik for your empathy with us! !
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
نشون داد برای ایرانش شعار نمیداد برای خودش شعار میداد....اول میومد از شرمندگیه وثیقه ای که بابتش ازاد شد در میومد بعد میرفت دنبال عشق و حالش
- joupy
If the Economist didn't publish that photo on its cover those days, nothing happened for him. sorry for economist .they don't seem to be friend of Iranians
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
it does not require Western press to make a demon out of Iran..they kind of do it to themselves with any press help
- Fred Grott
If he win, surly he will do it!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
بابا جلو این خارجی ها آبرو ریزی نکنین ! این وکیلشه !
- Javid★
China Makes, The World Takes - http://www.theatlantic.com/doc...
Today, Americans walk the streets of China and see their movies, music, software, and books sold everywhere in cheap pirate versions. A century and a half ago, Charles Dickens walked the streets of young America and fumed to see his novels in cheap pirate
- nik
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