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It's "attack early adopter" day today.
| Balu |, Kevin LaHaise, Richard ¿digame? Walker and 20 other people liked this
why? whats happened?
- Zee.
I think Robert means to get as many new people into friendfeed as possible
- Jay
oh...i thought early adopters were getting attacked
- Zee.
Aww, was it the Mashable article?
- Daynah
The Center Networks piece?
- Chris Baskind
Zee: you gotta check out http://mashable.com/2008... and http://www.winextra.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
Steven Hodson's piece
- Hutch Carpenter
lol
- Jay
link?
- Duncan Riley
If we didn't have early adopters we'd never know what's good and what's not.
- Alex Scoble
Chris: nah, Allen at CN is right that the recommended page in FriendFeed is totally not good for us. I don't want to be a default.
- Robert Scoble
I'm about as early as they come, and I don't feel attacked? :)
- l0ckergn0me
So Mashable just called each and every one of their readers douchebags. I'm sure this made sense in a meeting at some point...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
l0ckergnome: tomorrow is pick on Chris Pirillo day. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Tomorrow shall be fun. :) Let's start with the hat. heh
- Daynah
@Robert, I think you started with the labeling
- Jason Carreira
hmm I'm up for that!
- Jay
But aren't we all early adopters of FriendFeed? We WERE here before the new one launched! :)
- Mona Nomura
I think some people don't like early adopters who adopt early just to show off their new "toys". If the intention is otherwise, than I say these people are pioneers. Hats off to you for that, and taking all the flak for it.
- Josh Haley
ugh, can't stand Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins after he made some retarded remarks re:Loren Feldman and race and all that bull. I think I ended up blocking him here. can't remember. I usually like Mashable, too. he's tainting it. that "your mom would use it" bit is faintly but irritatingly sexist.
- Kamilah Gill
Just gets more fun every day doesn't it. @Robert Mona was here before you ... she just didn't tell anyone. She was 'hiding' herself.
- Charlie Anzman
OK seriously you guys, stop. This will now be the second night I've not gamed and instead sat here with popcorn. How am I going to ever get my friggin S2 or finish Twilight Princess (round 3)?!
- Candace
Charlie: there were thousands of people here when I joined in February. I'm hardly the "earliest" adopter. I just watch what a large group of early adopters tries and uses and wait for the first wave to repeat to me over and over that something is cool. That's how I found Evernote.
- Robert Scoble
Robert (1) I just read the Mashable piece and not only was the stereotype way off (at least where I'm concerned) but I think I just wasted 10 minutes reading the piece and the comments. (2) The other post about you and Mona was a joke (3) I will continue to idolize both you and Louis :)
- Charlie Anzman
Robert, Louis, I'm grateful for early adopters like you because it allows me to see much more of what's out there than I could see from any traditional source. I get to taste cool technology and play with it, and share it with others. My parents won't use most of it (nor will they use Facebook), but for those that have a use for it I can share it with them. And no, I didn't vote democrat last election and I love Facebook.
- Jesse Stay
BTW, it's posts like this that have caused me to remove Mashable from my RSS Reader (that, and his Mormon post a week ago where he quoted me entirely out of context). I'm losing respect for Mark's posts lately.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse - My Mom still won't use a microwave ...
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie, my dad still uses a handsaw and refuses to buy most electrical tools
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Jesse: I think it's funny to be attacked for being an early adopter by a site that reprints press releases and competes with TechCrunch to get onto TechMeme with the latest shiny object release. I also didn't get why my politics got pulled into a discussion about early adopter behavior, either. But, hey, makes for some entertaining reading at 5 a.m. in Berlin.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah - it seems he's looking for the latest topic that brings in traffic. I hope that isn't the case. What I like about "early adopters" is they're real people like you and me, living the technology they're talking about.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
All I know is if I flew around as much as Robert, I'd be seriously dizzy!
- Charlie Anzman
I like you Charlie - you bring reality to every situation :-)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I don't think I attacked the early adopters, but I did have something to say, and I said it Monday.
- JustinLL
from twhirl
Robert - back up your statements. Show me a press release we've reprinted. We never attacked you or even early adopters - I described a stereotype - apparently I struck too close to home with you, and you felt you needed to lash out at us.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
That's every day, no?
- john conroy
so Mashable are just saying that they aren't as passionate about new products and startups as Robert and Louis are? No surprise there - we knew that before because it comes across in the difference between how the passionate early adopters like Robert and Louis cover technology and how Mashable covers it. There is a lot of irony to that post that I think buzzed over the authors head.
- nik
As I said in a recent post, early adopters are some of the most generous people I know. And I'm a cranky old fart, too.
- Ro (Lilyhill)
I checked out the Mashable "article" and it looks like a transparent flamebaiting write-up. They seem to be just fishing for page hits.
- Chris Luckhardt
Irony is awesome.
- Paul Reynolds
Come on guys - There's a simple view of all this: There's passionates, non-passionates and then PR people...damn PR people suck!
- Kevin LaHaise
If you would like to participate in a documentary Ill be shooting at TC50 contact me info@1938media.com
nik, Michelle Feldman, Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins and sean percival liked this
Email sent.
- Andrew Fielding
now THIS should be interesting
- Tyler Crowley
Gonna play it straight Ty
- loren feldman
I will be throwing parties every night of Web 2.0 NY Sept. 16-19th. Bottles, Models, and umm geeks. Details coming.
nik, Julio F ~ @SocialJulio, jk5027a and Fred Grott liked this
are you coming to TC50 as well?
- Orli Yakuel
Does this mean that startups on the East Coast will be dropping by your place to pitch you?
- Jay Cuthrell
Very funny.
- loren feldman
i was actually serious. will be a pleasure to finally meet you.
- Orli Yakuel
Orli, I was talking to Jay. At present I do not have plans to be at tc50.
- loren feldman
oh sorry. bummer about tc50.
- Orli Yakuel
depending on what the bottles contain, im up for a party
- nik
You in town for it Nik?
- loren feldman
didnt even know about it but i am beginning to think that i might have to
- nik
Web 2.0 NYC should be silly, but my parties are going to rock. Im dying to see the remote control you are building.
- loren feldman
ye i just have to build a $200 wet dream for some dude who thinks he is steve jobs between now and then
- nik
I wanna help Nik. Not many people knows this about me, but I went to Cooper Union and have an industrial engineering degree.
- loren feldman
Neat! Industrial engineering? Did you go into that field after college or run away screaming? (I've got a Materials Sci&Eng degree, btw)
- Jay Cuthrell
After I left the Wilford Academy Of Beauty
- loren feldman
It truly amazes me that the French win any medals. Outside of Loic Lemeur they are not exactly the fittest of people. Plus they are not competitors/winners by nature. Except for Loic, but he's not in the Olympics.
nik, fbrunel, Ben Newton and 6 other people liked this
Didn't Loic get an invitation to the Special Olympics? Oh, I'm sorry...that was the entire country of France.
- Joshua Rosenstock
You would think they could at least win some medals in which they were sitting down, like Sailing or Rowing or Cycling.
- Andrew Leyden
Awesome line Andrew.
- loren feldman
Funny you should mention the French and rowing...http://www.youtube.com/watch... this is regarded as one of the greatest sprints in Olympic rowing history. Watch the French pair with about 700 meters to go. What they did is pretty much inhuman.
- Andrew Feinberg
Loic keeps telling us he's overweight so fit? Maybe not as much as we think?
- Dennis Howlett
from twhirl
yes, but according to pbaudry.com a motivation in their culture is "to be admired", and winning an olympic medal certainly leads to that.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Dissident’s Tale of Epic Escape From Iran’s Vise - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2008...
j.a, Raoul Pop, Javid★ and 26 other people liked this
"In several lengthy interviews, Mr. Batebi provided an unusual window on Iran under its ruling clerics. His alienation began at age 9, when he witnessed a deadly stoning. He rose to fame in 1999, appearing on the cover of The Economist magazine holding the bloody T-shirt of a fellow student demonstrator — an image he first saw when a judge slapped it before him and declared, “You have signed your own death sentence.” Finally, after a decade of political combat, he reluctantly decided to abandon Iran for an uncertain exile."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
فوتوشاپه بابا....:)
- ashkan
Iran's tank man - I can't believe he survived and is here now. Considering my own father was arrested, imprisoned and then escaped from his home country only to never go back, I have nothing but extreme empathy for the people of Iran and what they have had to experience not just since the revolution, but with the Shah and beforehand. So much misunderstanding in the west, as we dont realize that the large majority of the world dont live with the same freedoms we enjoy and instead we demonize them as groups
- nik
ha?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Zahra HB
unbelievable story. :(
- Chris Farrugia
ای چیز میگیل
- Nimaa
Batebi's Yahoo blog: http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-Kj...
- Andrew Meyer
عکس دستکاری شده است اصل عکسو دیدم .. احمد تنهاست
- Dadash Hadi
اون خانوم وکیلشه! در مصاحبه اومده!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
thanks Nik for your empathy with us! !
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
نشون داد برای ایرانش شعار نمیداد برای خودش شعار میداد....اول میومد از شرمندگیه وثیقه ای که بابتش ازاد شد در میومد بعد میرفت دنبال عشق و حالش
- joupy
If the Economist didn't publish that photo on its cover those days, nothing happened for him. sorry for economist .they don't seem to be friend of Iranians
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
it does not require Western press to make a demon out of Iran..they kind of do it to themselves with any press help
- Fred Grott
If he win, surly he will do it!
- Business Blogger【ツ】™
بابا جلو این خارجی ها آبرو ریزی نکنین ! این وکیلشه !
- Javid★
Bono is scolding Robert Scoble for cutting back on blogging. Scoble asks Bono what he's really accomplished since "The Joshua Tree". Wow.
Daniel Schildt, craig, Jesper Kjær Hansen and 12 other people liked this
geez... I'm not sure who is the bigger jerk. Bono is Mr. Amnesty International... the world's most questionable institutionalized political action group or Scoble the world's biggest elitist. maybe they were made for each other.
- Noah David Simon
PR lesson: never take a swing at a guy who can Tweet. :-) (I have been dissing TechMeme on Loic Le Meur's blog tonight).
- Robert Scoble
CES sticks it to the $20,000 for six minutes DEMO conference!
Ivan, nik, LPH™ and his dog P™ and Andrew Feinberg liked this
Another reason I'm excited to cover TC50.
- Andrew Feinberg
Is Google's Android Coming Apart At The Seams? - http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008...
nik, Dean Terry and David Sim liked this
I know people on the team, and the answer is no
- Jason Carreira
Putting aside the rest of the article, I'd guess the Sprint launch will be later than the T-Mobile launch not because of Google "catering to T-Mobile", but simply because developing for CDMA is notoriously harder than for GSM. Also, had any major platform ever been launched without similar stories?
- Didi Chanoch
Is it me or is every single blog turning into Valleywag?
- Cyndy
The New Apple Walled Garden - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Scott Bauer, Martin Recke, Stephan Miller and 15 other people liked this
Was thinking about that this morning. The walled garden gives Apple the ability to provide an amazing user experience, but I think in many ways that's a function of Apple being the underdog. The seamless user experience is Apple's competitive advantage, and in my opinion it's the primary driver behind the gangbusters growth in Apple's market share. I'm afraid (now that I'm fairly...
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- Brian Pharris
developers are free to choose their license of course but GPLv3 is a mess?, apart from that, this walled garden coming to the mobile world shows that an ecosystem around open source mobile like LiMo , Android and OpenMoko is necessary.
- Hassan Ibraheem
@Hassan you seem to miss Maemo - on purpose or what?
- A.T.
@silpol, not on purpose :)
- Hassan Ibraheem
Excellent articulation of the exact reason why I have not bought an iPhone
- Alan Cheslow
Bjorn: exactly, which is why I am not. I am just calling bullshit on the favoritism towards Apple, especially coming from the same guys who champion open standards and bash msft at every oppotunity they can.
- nik
Apple is for the masses who want fancy gadgets but don't want to be bothered by the technical details. The closed system seems to work fine for them as they wouldn't know what to do with the extra possibilities of truly open.
- simonpure
mal, Adriana Iordan, jeneane sessum and 5 other people liked this
Is it just me, or does Arrington look different in every photo taken of him? In this one, he looks like he's in his early 30s. Others? Like he's in his mid 50s. Sometimes he's skinny, sometimes he's chubby. Are people sure it's Arrington before they take the shot, or does he have a lot of impersonators in the Valley?
- Mark Trapp
it's not just you, Mark
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
I have also noticed that.
- Russellreno
Smiling Michael: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Joi Ito
there's actually an army of Mike look-alikes circulating around the Bay Area. This allows The One True Mike Arrington to remain in his Ice Fortress of Solitude built into a glacier in Iceland where he can contemplate world domination free of distractions.
- David Parmet
I really like this photo.
- Orli Yakuel
He looks a little put off like he just noticed a bunch of people discussing that he looks different in every photo taken of him.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Mahalo.com Being bought by MS??
Chris Heuer, Mark Douglass, sean percival and 17 other people liked this
What? No.....
- Pat Hawks
are you sure??
- Fred Grott
MS will not get Yahoo and they need some search winner, why not Mahalo.com?
- Fred Grott
Heard something similar, but it was TimeWarner
- Ken Sheppardson
Microsoft trying to buy Mahalo would make sense but, I doubt it's true. I haven't heard anything close to that.
- Candace
lets see does Jason have a recent to valley trip planned?
- Fred Grott
Wait a second, Microsoft just bought Powerset. Why would they go and buy yet another search engine when they just acquired one?
- Candace
link to source?
- Matthew Wayne Selznick
@CandaceHolly because microsoft is confused over what they are? at least that is what the internet would have you believe :D
- The Geek Media
Will it be MSN Mahalo or Windows Live Mahalo? :)
- Morton Fox
I think this might have contributed to the rumors: http://scobleizer.com/2008...
- Robert Scoble
yeh right!!!
- Jeremy
request for source generates sound of crickets chirping
- Matthew Wayne Selznick
@Matthew - A google shows no sources at all. I think it was more an open ended question backed by a reason that we're not aware of yet.
- Candace
As If !!!! But microsoft is on a spending spree when it comes to search engines, remember? And there was that indicator from Scobles interview linked above, remember?
- Roberto Bonini
weird how jason isn't in on this discussion!
- Gavin
But notice that Robert Scoble is
- Fred Grott
I just Twittered Jason, but I don't expect him to comment. Most CEOs won't comment on rumors unless they are true, and even then, they usually comment on their own schedules, not someone else's.
- Robert Scoble
That said, if Microsoft bought Mahalo and Powerset that'd be the first signs of a search strategy inside Microsoft in years. It'd be smart to do.
- Robert Scoble
Where is jason when you need him
- Akshay Dodeja
This simple FF question is going to snowball into a blogging rumor mill within 12 hours. I'll bet money on it.
- Candace
I heard it was Pfizer or Nabisco
- MG Siegler
Hum, I guest Stevie is anxious to buy anything and everything that is associated with the word "search"
- Shane
Maybe someone should set up a Rumor Mill room on FriendFeed.
- Mike Doeff
It's on the Internet so it must be true.
- Charles Barthold
Powerset is shown to work great on factual, structured data. Why wouldn't Mahalo with its human editors and coordination + Powerset be an excellent combination?
- Mattie
I hope it's true, Jason congrats if it is!
- E.B.
guys be serious a minute, if MS want to buy technology (cuill?) not grotto-workers
- Virtualgoodz
it would make sense and would be inline with this: http://www.techcrunchit.com/2008...
- nik
i don't know any reporter who would run this as a post, unless they're shooting it down as an example of an unfounded rumor. we'll see who writes a post entitled something like "Rumor: Is MS buying Mahalo?" personally, i've run stories that i've doubted, but i've always had more to go on than this, and i very heavily qualify myself. if anyone here wants to write a rumor-mill post on this, be my guest -- but you'll experience the backlash that causes reporters to not run such unfounded stories. geez.
- Eric Eldon
@ Mike Doeff: Done- http://friendfeed.com/rooms... . @Robert Scoble - think wider: Live Search + Yahoo + Powerset + Mahalo = very compelling search offering.
- Roberto Bonini
Grotto-workers?
- Lon Harris
from twhirl
Who says a reporter would cover it? I said bloggers. Big difference considering the majority of bloggers aren't journalists. As far as this rumor..first, we've had zero source to go on. Second, not one word from the person who would know for sure. I chock it up to a rumor but..I think this rumor is about to get fun.
- Candace
@Candace - A rumor that makes sense!!!
- Roberto Bonini
@Roberto - a rumor that makes sense is still a rumor. Though this would be a great experiment. How much of a buzz could a rumor on friend feed start? Hmmm...
- Candace
ok sure, this is a fun conversation. i can think of some other ones, too, like this http://digg.com/comedy...
- Eric Eldon
If Mahalo is snapped up by Microsoft for some undisclosed fee, it will be a clear signal that Microsoft is on the warpath. Startups everywhere, beware!!!
- Roberto Bonini
At least GOOG would have access to the Vatican Library. That'd go a long way towards their goal of organising the worlds information.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Seems a bit crazy...
- Alex Barredo
@ Alex: Ain't nothing too crazy to be true.
- Roberto Bonini
@Jason Shultz. At least I'd be able to do Google searches to learn what's really inside of the Vatican Library, instead of relying on Dan Brown novels.
- Eric Eldon
he was on Leo's TWiT last night....
- Tanya
seems like it would be a smart move by MS, hedging bets on the future of search by investing in a variety of areas, which is more than google has done recently
- craig
No comment.
- Jason Calacanis
Three more Tesla's for Calacanis... lol
- John Denver
no comment means yes. If there were no discussions then calacanis wouldve just said no. Gotcha Jason:)
- Grant
or "no comment" means come visit Mahalo... driving traffic
- Adam Hansen
very curious indeed. i'll see if i can get the inside scoop....
- mike fabio
I can't believe there's this much discussion on this without any comment from anybody. Incredible.
- Charlie Anzman
I can't believe people still think Mahalo is a search engine. Jeez, it's a wiki/directory with a search feature. Edit: and lately, it's been more of a current news/blog than anything else.
- Paul Short
life is grand...
- fijidaddy
The other night I actually was pondering this very acquisition idea. Though I've never really used Mahalo for anything, I enjoy Calacanis and Mahalo Daily. Is it search, wiki or news?
- THX152
and the train has left the station... the comments, rumors are flying at "friendfeed" speed.
- michael sean wright
=D
- sean percival
THIS TIME Jason is ALSO going to take the money.
- Rob Sterling
/me envisions Mahalo Live! lulz
- rob friedman
Unlike. Fake rumor. See >>> http://www.parislemon.com/2008...
- Mike Reynolds
Bulgarian Monastery - a guide to the Bulgaria Monasteries. Churches and monasteries in Bulgaria. - http://www.bulgarianmonastery.com/
nik and Bob Caswell liked this
I have visited many monasteries in East Europe so I am always looking out for more guides. My favorite is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- nik
Interesting resource... I wish I had it last time I was in Bulgaria. Blagodaria vi mnogo!
- Bob Caswell
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