“Which one is better (Internet needs more now) to consider for a start-up for this year or next year: Social News (Web/Mobile), Social Network (Web/Mobile), or anything else?”
I would say social news....... Those type of sites seems to be more popular now than social networks. - ChaCha Fance via Alert Thingy
right. Social networks have gone mainstream, but I think we still have no mainstream social news website. - Nikpay
Social News - agreed. Although, I think 2009 could be the year of the niche social network. If only we had portable networks to avoid re-registering and re-inviting people each time... - David Sim
one of the first two, video is a turndown for me since I rarely want to stop listening to music just to see some video... - Marcos Marado via fftogo
In the last one, you have the choice not to view the video, but you know there is also a video for the news which you could see if you like to - Nikpay
text+photos, but i stopped using news sites and now just subscribe to goognews search result feeds (with photos). filtering places i frequent & general topics, if that helps - Graham Garland
I agree with Marcos, if you're going to include video (or podcasts) make them easy to filter out for those listening to music or in quiet offices. - Andy Murdoch
It really depends on your niche focus. I like and use all variations....the community is the main draw regardless of features offered. You can always start slow and then expand when the site grows. - Maki
“يك پيشنهاد: در سمت راست صفحه فرندفيدتان جايي كه باكس جستجو وجود دارد اسمتان را وارد كنيد و سرچ را بزنيد. به صفحهاي ميرويد كه اسم شما را در فرندفيد جستجو ميكند.فيد ان را به فيدريدر خود بدهيد تا هميشه و هر لحظه از حرفهايي كه در مورد شما زده ميشود باخبر شويد :))))”
@مريم: براي شما اين تكنيك زياد خوب جواب نميده.چون توي فرفر هركسي شما رو به يه اسمي نام ميبره.اما واسه اونايي كه اسمشون تك هست مثلا سلما-نيوشا-فري-فواد-احسان و ... خيلي خوب جواب ميده - mhmazidi
یه ایراد اساسی داره اون هم این که فید افرادی رو که بلاک کردی رو هم نشون میده! بار ها باعث شده اعصابم خورد بشه! - Maryam Ardakani
@مريم اردكاني: لااقل متوجه ميشي اونهايي كه در حقت بدي ميكنن هنوز دارن ادامه ميدن يا اينكه خودشونو تغيير دادن.مريم جان.من اون شخص مورد نظر رو با تمام اي ديهاش بلوكه كردم. اميدوارم روزي دست از اين كارهاي زشتش بكشه - mhmazidi
بابت اون داستان من یه تشکر ویژه به شما بدهکارم. امیدوارم همین جوری باشه و متوجه بشه - Maryam Ardakani
Hatman, amma community ma aksaran rajebe "smile" e; mamnoon ke "like" man ro mohem danestid. mazerat babate finglish - Nikpay
Um, you mean like Pownce and Jaiku? :-) - Brent Newhall
Mmm, right probably, but the client & accessibility is important. More importantly, I want it to very simple not to take so much time. But, I think I need to look around for including some cooler features. - Nikpay
Certainly it's a good idea, Google Social or whatever this will end up being called could easily become the biggest player in online social networking scene faster than anyone. Is that something they should brag about? I think not. If they fail to do accomplish that feat, then we'll have a story. - Damien Franco
google social is a good vision. Google offers API for all of their services & adding more social features to the integration could have a high potential. - Nikpay
"1 Million impressions"...no I'll take the 5 relationships that will help me grow 1 million subscribers... - Anthony Farrior
The thing is, they both go hand in hand. You aren't getting those impressions without relationships, and you aren't getting those relationships without impressions. Usually. What I'm saying is that neither is mutually exclusive. - Ben Parr
Five relationships... although your lead measures are important. The big question - does your 1m impressions lead to relationships and if so, how many? Mileage will vary. - David Sim
The timing & metrics are very important in here. How long does it takes to lead the 5 relationships to 1M impressions & what the current situation is & such questions. - Nikpay
SNSing = five relationships. Real life is a whole different story. - Mona N
I'll take the impressions. Unless Keira Knightley is one 5 relationships?? And I need the adsense for drink and cigarettes. - john conroy
The highlight of the article for me was the following lines: "That's why businesses that aren't deeply, durably connected to people are already falling apart " - Prakash
I'm also quite fond of 'value must flow in many directions' which I think is really what makes the edgeconomy different from traditional businesses - Nicholas Molnar via twhirl
I think this is not really as simple as that & it varies in each industry. I think the core message is to be the best on our core service &/or services (but dynamics are too much really). - Nikpay
Thank you Mitchell for following me. It is my pleasure to know you & I count this as one other advantage of using friendfeed. Thanks also for sharing our blog which is our corporate blog going to be launched soon. hope to keep be in touch with you more. - Nikpay
Since there is no messaging here, I am going to use this link comment to thank for inviting me, & I hope I could contribute well here :). It is a pretty good essay by the way. - Nikpay
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There isn't any good one for me yet. The bests right now are the aggregators such as Techmeme & Google News which could make the cluster of news & rank them very well. - Nikpay
Not sure if it's social news, but Techmeme...FOR SURE! - David Ambrose
Same here, I woke up this morning and that was on my things to do list! - Joe Dawson via Alert Thingy
I do not rellay agree. I think FF can do more, for instance search and filtering. Just like I do now with RSSmeme and Yahoo pipes to filter some noise - Arturo Servin via Alert Thingy
Like the counter point of view Sarah. Gonna think about this one a bit more. - Hutch Carpenter
Is Friend Feed Doomed? Haha, can't imagine anyone here is going to click through on that headline. - Thomas Hawk
The fact that FB & MySpace have implemented 'status message' features hasn't killed Twitter. Why would Google FriendConnect et. al. kill FriendFeed? - Rubin
@Thomas It is always the case with the Link Sharing Websites. We just read the titles & less than 5% I guess is the CTR. - Nikpay
certainly not- FF is still in early beta adoption phase. I have to agree @arturo with the filters /Pipes and Search. If FF has a tab where I can create my own pipes across 'friends' and then display results of personalization into a separate tab, then its becomes one of the most powerful vehicles on the internet for content management and sharing. Secondly, an 'alert; tab for terms also would be great - I make and break alerts using google,but this can be implemented on FF (I think). BTW FF can have openid - Peter Dawson
Are posts about Friendfeed being doomed, doomed? - cmiper
I think we need to see the takeup of the social aggregation services that Google and Facebook launch before we pass judgment. I recently added my flickr photostream to my facebook mini-feed, but I haven't seen many people doing the same, or any noticeable effect... - Edward Barnieh
I commented on the post itself, but I can summarize: "Nope." - Vince DeGeorge
According to your theory, Twitter should of been killed the day Google bought Jaiku but that didnt happen because of the particular people that use Twitter. I have a feeling that FF is at its tipping point for usurping the Twitter crowds from Google, MS, etc. - Andrew Baron
I think Jarred wrote a very good post. There is a lot of stuff to think about. I'm inclined to agree with him, although I better not say that out loud on FF. Might get smacked by the FF fans out here ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
</smack> @Alexander van Elsas </endsmack> - LOL, what exactly are you agreeing too ? That if FF is not bought out, they will not survive ?? How can you come to that conclustion without know the business model or exit strategy for FF ? - Peter Dawson
I think it's too early to call it. We thought Twitter was the bee's knees at one time before Friendfeed came along and challenged that. Who knows what will happen in a year's time? - Morton Fox
Didn't really expect anyone commenting here to agree with me, haha, but I have enjoyed reading all your thoughts. This is much different than status messages or Jaiku "not killing" Twitter. Twitter and those services attack a problem in a similar, though competitive way. FriendFeed and the "connect" initiatives attack a problem in opposite, theoretically divergent ways. I think FriendFeed has misinterpreted the direction of the social web. It won't die tomorrow, but I think its days are numbered. - Jarred Taylor
Ahh, the daily FFFodder. Nope, not even close. - Jody Carbone
Ok, and for my next FriendFeed link bait of the day... "OMFG FriendFeed is doomed, doomed, DOOMED! It will be dead in 48 hours!!!!!!! digg digg digg this here!!!!!! - Thomas Hawk
doesn't sound inflammatory or anything, or does it ? - Tudor via Alert Thingy
Today, FriendFeed is fine. Tomorrow, there will be an explosion of new social sites. You'll be able to plug in to every blog you visit. Every time, you'll have to create a new profile, load those details into FriendFeed, and then come here to keep track with limited ability to interact. Why not have identity, interaction, and aggregation through a single log-in? The social web is going to explode, and I don't know that FriendFeed will be able to keep up, especially now that the big boys are in the game - Jarred Taylor
@peter I think Jarred is right about everything becoming social. Destinations are part of a business model that marks the web 2.0 era. Once we get rid of that business model the web will open up and become socially more connected. In that sense Friendfeed right now is doing the opposite as Jarred noted. But I'm sure they will open up too. FF just wants the aggregations to pass through their database, because it will allow them to provide user powered search. Facebook uses the same approach - Alexander van Elsas
It can't. I spent way too much time here (and every minute was worth it... :) - Charlie Anzman
You can even think about it economically. Google and Facebook have enormous server capacity. If they control the identities, then they don't have to waste server load sending spiders across dozens or hundreds of different services checking for updates for hundreds of thousands of users. It's hosted with them. FriendFeed faces the problem that it wants to scale, but it knows more people equals more profiles on more services to ping. And so far, no business model to support expansion. - Jarred Taylor
James , it is not doomed, You can see the number of people commenting on your post, which means that there is big community here(even if we are early adopters). And community makes everything. Including Google FriendConnect. And also keep in mind, guys behind FF are the ones who gave us Gmail, Google Reader and 'Don't be evil' - Varun Mahajan
@Varun, don't assume that since it attracted early adopters FF will also attract mainstream users. That is a huge step that few ever are able to take. - Alexander van Elsas
I think Netflix and Amazon teach us that sometimes simple business models are quite difficult to execute, and first-movers with those business models prove really, really hard to crush. One of FriendFeed's strengths is that it not only competes with other social networks, it extends them. - Mitch Wagner
Interesting how even among the FF comments, there is no solid consensus. (Also, just FYI - that was a guest post on sarahintampa.com - but I love how it made everyone think.) - Sarah Perez
ok just think of it.. if FF is doomed, then why is it that every1 is complaining about twitter being down on FF ?? da whole twitter community is commenting on FF once again as on ( 20/05:4.25EDT). Early adopters and generic twitter users are being driven across properties by simple virtue of availability and ease of use - Peter Dawson
Hmm...a "FriendFeed doomed" post has a half dozen comments at the original post, and tons of comments on FriendFeed. Perhaps this is similar to unusually high statistical spikes for TV shows about Nielsen families, but it's important to note that FriendFeed is more than an aggregator. - Ontario Emperor
It was a good idea to add the FF comments to the blog. Looks great. - Alejandro S.
At the original post, FriendFeed Comments 35+. Disqus Comments: 7+. Competition? Seems like FF can cut Disqus grass. - Mo Jawhari
Although I wish FriendFeed comments were threaded... :) - Ontario Emperor
Sooner or later people will get it. Fast forward 12 months, and FriendFeed is the platform Facebook was supposed to be. Consuming raw FriendFeed material will remain popular among us early adopters, but up-and-coming apps/services built on top of FF will successfully reach and cater specific portions of the mainstream audience (FriendFeedInBigFontForTheAlmostBlind.com is probably already in the works! ;) - Aviv
More comments here than on the post means nothing, but nice try folks. :) There is no doubt FF trumps post comments. I never said FF is doomed because it is useless. Today, it is very useful. I argue that FF is probably doomed because the big players are creating solutions to fragmentation that will rob FriendFeed, a small fish, of its mission. We won't need to use FF to aggregate and annotate fragmented content when the content is centralized for us by Google/FB's new id management systems. - Jarred Taylor
Jarred you are talking to the turkey that is getting ready for Christmas dinner, no supporters here. but I still think you wrote a pretty good analysis. If things will work out that way, time will tell ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Sometimes the simplest ideas are best. While a number of startups are working to bring the whole process of creating presentations online, SlideShare ... - Brad Feld
When there are number of strong tools available, it is in the best interest of startup to simply build something on the top of them while trying to become a destination; if it grabbed the attentions, then possibilities are endless. - Nikpay
“FriendFeed encourages users to join the services it aggregates. Soon it will be like ranking well in Google to have your service aggregated by FriendFeed.”
blocking someone not only on twitter, but on all other services - one should build something like a friendfeed for blocking people (unfriendfeed?) - Chris
This may be an argument for the federated twitter-alike service that people have talked about lately. - Peter Kahle
I love how popular any activities of the scoble gets. He just need to type something & boom, there are many comments. - Nikpay
I wish I could too, Some people just dont get it - suavenyc72
It'd be interesting to have a meta service where you register your identity and the networks your on and maintained a friendlist there - it would automatically sync friends across all networks. Hook it up with OpenID, perhaps. - felix
Hmmm i use Google email, reader, docs, Search, Picasa, so no it would be a pain migrating all my stuff to diffrent services. - John Spencer via Alert Thingy
Not since I use GMail as spam filter for my oldest mail adress and GReader for all my RSS needs. - Hannes BrandstätterMüller via twhirl
@Haim: Very well put. I only really use Gmail, Docs and Search nowadays. Gmail's backed up, most of the important Docs are also on my compy and I can always use somewhere else for search. Now, if only I could figure out exactly where that "somewhere else" is... - Cyvros/fyc
I could live, but I wouldn't be happy. I think the contribution of Google is that of the car and telephone. - Vince DeGeorge
google services just like any other technologies are for more convenience or improving the economic & life. Not having it could just make the life harder then :) - Nikpay
I could live without google as long as I have friendfeed. I find anything I need here anyways :) - d e f c o n
Of course, as this conversation continues, Google has been very slow for me this morning... and is definitely impacting my day. - Vince DeGeorge
if i go offline for a week on my vacation, then yes i can, it's not so hard. but if i got my laptop and i was able to connect to the internet, then it would be little hard to do, but possible. now we have many other way to connect people or get information without searching. - "31o5"
No. Mail, documents, reader, and various other things are wrapped up in what I do and future plans. - Lisa Thompson via Alert Thingy
live without greader and gmail ? not a chance - Chris Jones via twhirl
No. Not at the moment no. Internet are to valuable right now. - Svartling
Oh yeah, definitely. I really only use the Google search engine, and have recently been running my searches through Mahalo. Even the stuff I search for is fairly obvious; PHP functions, little tutorials, etc. And Google's magic ability to go straight to the best result has fizzled in the past few years, so they're not massively better than the other search engines now. - Brent Newhall
No, and to be honest search engines that are aimed at being 'semantic' like Mahalo really miss the point: convenient and effortless search. If Google, went away my internet use would decrease 99.9 percent. The remaining .1 would be askjolene.com - jon
Not me. From my blog to my RSS reader, I'm all Google all the time. - Mike Lewis via twhirl
Maybe it's just me, but I dislike being that dependent on a specific piece of tech to get all information. Domain-specific search--like pulling a cookbook off a shelf--returns better results than a one-size-fits-all solution like Google. Especially in the modern days of SEO, where most of my Google results link to linkfarms. - Brent Newhall
Easily, at this point for what I search for I can't tell a difference between google and live. - Chris Patterson via twhirl
without google how would I spell anything correctly? - Anthony Farrior
i could live - in the dark - without search though i don't really care who is serving it as long as it works and is easy/good (i.e. goog for now) - Morgan via twhirl
can we live without oxygen? for about three minutes, so yeah, temporarily - Julian Baldwin
I tried it for a week while my ISP was having troubles. It was nearly impossible for me to get any work done. - Diane Ensey
I probably could...but Google Search is such a habit. Breaking it would be tough. - Chris Rossini
Without Google, I would probably become a constant Yahoo user. Wouldn't be too difficult to switch. - possible248
