Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting
- Roberto
from fftogo
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
In Pic #3, I am holding my youngest brother (picture in 1984). In pic #4, I am with my younger brother who was a year behind me. He is sporting one of our Superman capes.
- Louis Gray
These remind me of Chris Pirillo's kid pics. Do glasses predestine you to become a geek? :) I think I'll ask the government for millions of dollars to study that question. Fascinating.
- Dawn
Adorable !! Thanks for sharing :) I wish I had more pics of my childhood (they're all at my Mom's house!)
- Susan Beebe
This morning we changed the format of FriendFeed subscription email messages to include more information about people who subscribe to you. Please let us know if you see any problems, and keep an eye out for more email improvements in the future.
I'm all for improving the format of notifications, but wonder (aloud) if it is such a smart move to include the Approve/Reject link right at the top (unless it only appears in private feeds to which someone has requested access). Right now we have the option of blocking/ rejecting a subscriber at any time but presumably not at the very outset. This may lead to more of a walled gardens' mentality, already very prevalent at FF.
- ianf ⌘
ianf: approve/reject is only for private feeds. Public feeds just have a link to subscribe back :)
- Benjamin Golub
I noticed this one! Such informations about people who subscribe to me on FriendFeed are useful, and makes it easy to quickly get in the conversation. Thanks for the good job!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Gmail automatically showed me the images in a subscription email, even though I never told it to (you know how gmail has the 'display images below' option). further, it doesn't give me the option to hide the images. not that I'd want to, but how are you bypassing gmail's security feature to hide the images?
- chrisofspades
Chris, we don't do anything special. I'm not sure how gmail decides what images to show, you'd have to contact them or check the gmail help.
- Casey Muller
Casey, you sure FriendFeed's founders didn't use some of their "we created Gmail" mojo? ;)
- chrisofspades
Chris, the "show images" only applies to external images hosted on other sites. Gmail doesn't show those by default because doing so would allow people to "bug" email. We include the images with the email so that they can be displayed immediately.
- Paul Buchheit
how come I can't find this tweet, I was going to RT it, but can't find, [edit] oh you're one of those with more than 1 tweet'n account, k but I'm just going cite your femella one
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Hey it's the DC area. DC is usually considered NoVA/DC/SoMD. Haha
- Shevonne
i'll grant you your distrinct :) and hold my but's // ahahhahaha, I just made that up but I'm totally going to use that now instead of bite my tongue: "hold my but's" eheehehee
- The Real sofarsoShawn
hahahaha hey hold them cause Northern VA is nothing like the rest of VA
- Shevonne
when Scrabble did the 'iPad for the board and iphones for the tiles" thing, it was funny, but the idea of shared plus private is important
- Kevin Marks
there is talk about ubuntu tv getting launched at ces. can it make a play?
- Alex Williams
Apple prefer selling Hardware rather than Software.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Ubuntu? u mean linux? the OS widely known for their outstanding UI?
- Stephen M
XBOX 360 with one of the LIve TV partners is a great way to watch TV.. you just talk to it
- Stephen M
Unity is the Ubuntu UI - hated by the faithful meant for the masses.
- Alex Williams
My 70 year old mom loves her ViZio with the built in Netflix..she doesn't have to switch inputs, just just presses the Netflix button on the remote
- Stephen M
did you see the Doctor Who Literal Video of Total Eclipse of the Heart?
- Kevin Marks
Would Siri on an Apple TV, make Search on TV more fun and interesting
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
And this 70 year old mom likes her AppleTV with the built in Netflix. She has trained herself (pant pant) to switch inputs. Could it be easier, I suppose. Is it great as it is, Yes.
- Francine Hardaway
I finally have audio-only feed, hi everyone! Happy New Year from Kaula Lumpur (for this week). Am hearing a lot of talk about TV...the reason I go online is to get away from TV. Oh the irony. :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Yes, Mo asked to participate in the Ass Roasting. I wasn't really serious about it until Mo asked. Then I had to make it exist.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
LMAO, Kamilah so awesome, but you missed Sean's half-stache and goatee. Those would have made it even more awesome.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
aw, shoot. I checked, but I wasn't sure about the status of his facial hair.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
This is THE. BEST. THING. ON. THE. INTERNET. EVER. *weeps for joy*
- MoTO Bott
I'm tempted to lie about it just to see what I'd look like in one of your illustrations
- chrisofspades
oh, though sketch is good, ever had an exhibition?
- testbeta
I always knew it. The first time I saw Mo Kargas on FF, I knew he could roast asses with his eyes.
- Joshua
Thanks, everyone :) I don't know that I can sell the original sketchbook, it's really my personal journal. As I say from time to time, though, my goal is to do some larger drawings and paintings, and eventually I hope to sell those, I just need, like, 48 hours in a day to get everything done... it's going to happen somehow, soon. I have had some of my work exhibited at various times,...
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- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Kamilah, you're here! You should subscribe to me. :)
- EricaJoy
What happens if I subscribe to you, Erica? Is something in particular happening over on your feed?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Nothing interesting happening on my feed but I bet $100 I could make your day. :)
- EricaJoy
By the way Kamilah? I want the MoBot on a t-shirt.... Pleeeaaaasssseeee???
- MoTO Bott
Yes, giant robots are made of win. I dunno, Barry... last time I tried to make a t-shirt, people got all excited but no-one bought it (DYSP!). I might just make a design but not bother to try setting up a Spreadshirt (or whichever one it was that I used) for it. I'll have to see.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I could do that somehow, I guess. I've taken payments through PayPal before. I wonder what pose the MoBot should be in? Have some source material I could work from?
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
re: apps vs. browsers .... Mobile users lean toward apps over browsers [study]
- studentforce
Windows Phone won't take off. In the UK its all about Apple and Android/Google. In Europe (outside of the UK pretty much) NO ONE has an Apple...its quite astounding. Its all about Google.Android and nothing to do with Apple..which is interesting
- Scott Jones
In for the last "Gang" of the year.. :)
- Kevin Costain
Scott: everytime I'm in Europe I see iPhones all over the place. I don't know what Europe you live in.
- Robert Scoble
That *is* a big indictment. I would think someone would get one just to be contrarian.
- Bruce Lewis
Heh Robert. Talking about Central Europe. I'm British but have been through Slovakia, Hungary, Poland etc and in this part of Europe there are zero iPhones/iPads and basically no Apple. But every 15 year old kid in all these countries has an android phone. Apple dont exist in the new Europe. Which is surprising. I had to get a Samsung as I couldnt get an Apple. But MS....well...they have no chance in Europe.
- Scott Jones
I wish Steve was more Italian and used his hands to talk more ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's always a "new" world though. There was a time when Android didn't exist at all in this "new" world. Things change. Never say never. :)
- Kevin Costain
Are people talking about Roku much? One of my users was asking for a Roku channel.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: I see Roku come up here and there. But this is a pretty heavy Android iOS show.
- Robert Scoble
...Glad I caught the last GG of 2011 - ...love you guys - 2012 needs more high power women in tech, BTW - Hey John, Scobes, Mark - ...and Hey SG!
- Rocky Barbanica
Know what you mean Robert. What's interesting though is I now stream and download everything...erm..for free. Monitisation is an issue for companies I would say
- Scott Jones
When the edge is so powerful, does an edge to core strategy really make sense?
- Todd Hoff
Netflix peaked in 2011. Streaming video's becoming a commodity with Comcast, Amazon, Vudu... Netflix is actually falling behind in terms of first run films.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think Louis CK made the money for production costs on the shows themselves (RE: Rolling Stone's article on his recent shows).. the money he made on the online special was allot more gravy..
- Kevin Costain
Ken: I think you're right now - but that will change. It is changing.
- Kevin Costain
People don't realize how good OTA quality is now that they've gone digital.
- Bruce Lewis
Predict THIS - Rocky's running for Pacifica City Counsel 2012
- Rocky Barbanica
Robert, if you live in Half Moon Bay the view looks better than anything that would be on TV anyway. :-) But seriously, I think the percentage of cable use should be lower given the signal available to a lot of people now.
- Bruce Lewis
It's like waking up and realizing you've been sold a lie all your life that we are the most special country and we run it on real principles, and we have a real democracy. At least these tools allowed us to wake up and see how fake the so called 'establishment' really are
- Stephen Pickering
Kevin: and that's the power they had. Not sure they really used it well.
- Robert Scoble
I think the OWS activities were just a starting point.. that is probably a sign of things to come.. I wonder if we'll see a full-scale revolt somehow. or even if that is possible.. ?
- Kevin Costain
That would be 'crony' capitalism or in Russia Oligarchy?
- Stephen Pickering
Robert Scoble: what's unfortunate is that each 'conversion' or migration caused MAJOR economic upheaval.
- studentforce
The Black Bloc is also the darker side of all this stuff.... I don't know what it all means.. :(
- Kevin Costain
Godaddy testified to congress in favor of SOPA. When they testify against I'll be satisfied. Blog posts don't cut it.
- Bruce Lewis
Giving the number of millionaires and people in power - it's clear that those with most of the money are likely to hold most of the power. They are few.
- Kevin Costain
Perhaps whatever is in FRONT of the masses, is the leader. It could be anything really, no?
- Kevin Costain
Kevin, no, no, no, the whole meme is getting away from the power of the Lowest Common Denominator
- Stephen Pickering
I think eventually we'll see the rise of fake people leading masses (like that fake pop star in Japan).. humans created virtually to lead the masses..
- Kevin Costain
yes Stephen: "TV is not vulgar and prurient and dumb because the people who compose the audience are vulgar and dumb. Television is the way it is simply because people tend to be extremely similar in their vulgar and prurient and dumb interests and wildly different in their refined and aesthetic and noble interests." - David Foster Wallace
- Kevin Marks
The only way I know how to get ahold of anyone directly is via email. Every other method is like waving frantically at someone while they are speeding away and their windows are tinted.
- Todd Hoff
"i've wanted to do this for a while. i'm not a good singer, and it's ok. and this is how i look when i'm doing the just-ok singing. this is part of me dealing with all my faces."
- edythe
from Bookmarklet
thank you, mark and nia and jlt-j. brent, the sky is supposed to be on fire, but i forgot and mumbled. :) jlt-j: it's a warron zevon song that Jill Sobule does a beautiful cover of.
- edythe
I love this song :D good job! I like your faces
- comix aka martha
[applauds] BENNY THE CAB: Hey Roger, what do you call the middle of a song? ROGER RABBIT: Gee, I don't kn -- [sees that he needs to duck] A BRIDGE!!!
- Karim
*birthday bump*... One of my most favorite Polly moments ever
- MoTO Bott
Awww. Heh, Barry. If they ever made this into a single, you'd push it into some platinum list. :) ;) this is the only song I have ever sung and made sound reasonably good.
- edythe
from iPhone
"Bridge..." JUST LIKE JAMES BROWN!... *sigh*
- MoTO Bott
Hee hee, Barry. Now you're just buttering me up like a roll. ;)
- edythe
from iPhone
This is as true in everyday life as it is in battle: we are given one life and the decision is ours whether to wait for circumstances to make up our mind, or whether to act, and in acting, to live - http://stopalcoholdeaths.tumblr.com/post...
Waiting also -- with a different audio/camera connection .. see how that works.
- John Taschek
Hey this works out very well. Get to watch live for once (9 to 5er in Central time). Plus, bonus! As I'm loading up the Kindle Fire I got for my parents, there are all these real geeks in chat to whom I can ask questions.
- Amyloo
Doesn't show you're live. Let me try again.
- John Taschek
I'll tell Christmas jokes while we are waiting to stall for time. Did you hear that one of Santa's reindeer now works for Proctor and Gambel? [Its true, Comet cleans sinks!]
- Charlie Isaacs
Apple/Microsoft don't want to compete. They only want to use anticompetitive tactics and bogus patent lawsuits, they are desperate.
- Charbax
Year Robert, MWC is an even bigger Android show just a month later.
- Charbax
Tina, agree on Best Buy, that is going to hurt them
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie - the old adage ship via FedX for less handling!
- cliveb
Last year there were 1500 booths at CES showcasing Android devices, 32 with Windows related devices, this year there'll be over 2500 booths at CES showcasing Android stuff and even fewer Windows Phone
- Charbax
android isn't just about phones any more
- Kevin Marks
my guess $40 Million (or something like that) for the main pre keynote and biggest hall and promo materials, my guess Google will take it next year
- Charbax
Steve is drinking out of his John Lennon glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the question for me is how many non-phone, non-tablet devices are running android charbax. Cameras, TVs, photo frames, etc
- Kevin Marks
Tell him to say "All we are saying is give peace a chance
- Charlie Isaacs
It sure as hell will never be Nokia ;) I agree Google will do it the year after next ... if the world hasn't ended.. obviously ;)
- kosso
Yeah Kevin, I wonder at which point Canon/Nikon/Sony/Panasonic/JVC start putting Android in their DSLR and point and shoots and camcorders, provide photo apps, direct picasa/flickr uploads. Maybe Google releases ARM Powered Google TV, Android laptops, Android platform for E Ink ereaders
- Charbax
My Jawbone Up told me that I was lethargic so I attached it to the back of Lance's bike
- Charlie Isaacs
within a year most HDTVs will have Google TV integrated
- Charbax
ARM Powered Google TV costs only $25 in parts to add to a HDTV including a 1080p webcam for Google+ Hangouts
- Charbax
But it is a good point. If stream is becoming limited by infrastructure provider plans and caps; why isn't that being solved by anyone. Last mile is limited. Spectrum is limited. What is the innovation to infrastructure that will solve it? Is anyone working on these to give us hope?
- Michael A. Romig
GoDaddy caved, and said they'll sit back and see what everyone else thinks - for now. Todd Cochrane from Geek News Central had a phone interview with Warren Adelman, the new GoDaddy CEO.
- kosso
KKR and Silver Lake Partners and Technology Crossover Ventures
- Charlie Isaacs
I think it's time Google got in to the Domain registration and DNS management business.
- kosso
@kosso - of course Sean Bean is no longer on the show ...
- John Taschek
I don't know how anyone was still on GoDaddy in the first place
- Michael Mahemoff
I have google apps domains that are white label GoDaddy ones
- Kevin Marks
Wait a sec. They "caved", but if you read the press release they admit their General Counsel, Christine Jones, helped write it. Does anyone really think they are doing a full reversal here?
- Michael A. Romig
Would you buy domains from Google? And manage your DNS records through them? I would.
- kosso
Kevin : interesting. I didn't know they did that. I think Google should do it all themselves. They could also strike some interesting info/ad deals for content etc.. it would be an interesting market. As if (someone like) GoDaddy got in to advertising a la adsense.
- kosso
maybe Obama should just announce he'd veto any SOPA bill, that'd give him some online support
- Charbax
Then that lends credence to the SOPA purpose being much broader that safe havens. Like Forbes "The Gread SOPA Conspiracy" goo.gl/exQTR. The content providers want more "controls".
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie, definitely: Take out the evil Patent Trolls
- cliveb
yeah! aha! that password is gonna protect you
- studentforce
your printer cartridge is full, but too old
- Jerome Hughes
I think you are the victim of being an early adopter, not a conspiracy of dis-operability. Scoble's HDMI example aside.
- Michael A. Romig
We'll create an encrypted darknet if they try to block stuff, the prob is maybe they'll block or slow down all packets that look like they may be used for accessing the whole darknet
- Charbax
on the moon? I thought my expenses were bad
- Kevin Marks
4K2K Apple TV for under $2K, bring it on
- Charbax
Apple brings in a much bigger base than slingbox and legitimacy. People will partner with Apple rather than go to guns against them.
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie that's funny but instead I would like to get the bike to power the tv. If you keep the pace... no problem. If you get slow the picture deteriorates
- Tina Chase Gillmor
voice controlled tv will come from Apple. Via Siri(ish)
- kosso
on the 6th day of Christmas my true-love gave to me... a bullwhip a crackin'
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If the set-top-box hardware costs $50 external and $25 internal, these types of functionalities aren't really a differentiator on a $1000-$2000 HDTV
- Charbax
Wifi is the standard, but maybe it shouldn't be. Why couldn't the market crack the WiMax nut, for example. What about the latest wireless bluetooth, will that compete?
- Michael A. Romig
It could happen, but it is the early adopter problem again. All it takes are those chips that support on the fly packet inspection and prioritization to get commoditized into home devices. Of course you can do that today with higher-end network solutions. Just not your house. So I'm thinking demand just isn't there yet for the market to give you what you want.
- Michael A. Romig
Android devices use the MHL connector/dock which is up to 20Gbps over HDMI, mirroring can't really compete with that. Mirroring is for glorified remote controlling
- Charbax
Scoble has an OC192 coming into his house
- Charlie Isaacs
I think you should end the show NOW !!
- studentforce
Apple doesn't want to include HDMI outputs cause they want you to buy extra devices
- Charbax
some of us have been doing this with wires and projectors for many years
- Jerome Hughes
if you have a popular YouTube account they encode your HD videos in realtime
- Charbax
are you holding your iphone with your left hand?
- Charbax
Scoble ran cables out of his windows and down the stairway
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: nope. Just wifi. But my airport express is right over my downstairs TV.
- Robert Scoble
I don't think the politicians/Obama are corrupt
- Charbax
Apple needs to copy Sonos. I have Sonos setup in 8 rooms with Spotify and MOG and zero issues with wireless. They use their own mesh network in the house.
- Jim Long
michael - find out when Lamar is appearing in public over xmas and talk to him
- Kevin Marks
@charbax powerline is not all that great, and very unpredictable. A better solution is MOCA if you want to get to other rooms and have coax.
- Jim Long
can you talk about sex and religion when you are done with politics? :-p
- Charlie Isaacs
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- lucyjohnson91
Streaming to a nightlight is beyond wasteful. Having computers in the bedrooms of kids is not a good idea. You need to read up on your child policies.
- marstein
Cool if Jobsworth makes a guest appearance, even a cameo.
- cliveb
Hey guys! Tina, it's your turn now. ACTION.
- Nir Ben Yona
JP is not going to make it I'm afraid, clive.
- Kevin Marks
Just before the first iPad was shown by Steve Jobs, Steve Ballmer showcased upcoming Tablets at CES, that were suppose to be released in that fall in partnership with HP.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Sometimes acquisitions are the fastest way to destroy value (no idea why)
- cliveb
The problem is that Huffington Post was acquired for $300 million at same time that TC was bought for about $30 million. I could see this collision coming from 100 miles away.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook recently brought Gowalla and just burried it!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Moe: I would have buried Gowalla too. In fact, I did.
- Robert Scoble
are you guys doing the gang twice a week now every week?
- Laura Norvig
Is it really the expense that's the issue? Windows 8 isn't released yet, is it?
- Brian Hendrickson
that would be amazing, Laura; or at least do one Gillmor Gang and one News Gang
- franzstehrn
Once a week, sorry. But sometimes we delay a show until Monday.
- Robert Scoble
I'd buy a Windows 8 tablet -- it's exciting that their app-building APIs are Web based. It'll be fun to make apps compared to Java.
- Brian Hendrickson
cliveb i forgot about that -- no wonder devs are so enamored with it. I did see a cool "responsive" app for different screen sizes - built with a webos framework
- Brian Hendrickson
wow I connect in late and I instantly get Scoble monitor envy
- Charlie Isaacs
I write in MSWord (a lot of time on airplanes w/out wifi) and then publish to blog or pdf. I usually code in Eclipse or xCode console
- Charlie Isaacs
I would be up the creek currently at home without having a full OS/Environment. So yeah, it's still very important.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
offline I use TextWrangler or SubEthaEdit
- Kevin Marks
Kevin does your editor also work as a signaling device?
- Brian Hendrickson
Facts, Amazon already has a patent license from Microsoft...More facts...(as of july 2011: Office 2010 continues to be the fastest-selling version of Microsoft Office in history with over 100 million licenses sold since its release a year ago.
- Stephen M
Can you invite Steve Ballmer onto the Show?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
You guys are dreaming. You should live in my world. Small businesses use Word, email, and .ppt. They don't want to change.
- Francine Hardaway
Really depends on teh kind of Enterprise. Some businesses are still used to needing to format documents nicely and are used to doing that in word.
- Laura Norvig
Sharepoint is your grandmother's attic -- where you go to store stuff you don't ever want to see again -- Benioff
- Charlie Isaacs
Way to bring it back to reality, Francine! Although agile small businesses with younger staff tend to use cloud apps more. some work entirely with google apps.
- Laura Norvig
Small businesses aren't where you think they are
- Francine Hardaway
Jerry, that's right! They attach word documents to email:-)
- Francine Hardaway
...and there's MS Access, Project and Visio. They are very persistent in certain circles.
- Alex de Soto
Microsoft Has A Dozen Billion Dollar Businesses
- Stephen M
I'd like to know who (profession) uses what at different age: 50+ uses ? 15-20 yrs uses ? 20 - 25 yrs uses ? 25 - 40 yrs? 40 - 50 yrs?
- studentforce
Even though at Alcatel-Lucent we have moved to a Jive Platform people still use the MSOffice tools and store interesting docs and ppts in Jive Enterprise
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft Sold 5 Million Seats Of Office 365 In Less Than Three Months and 90% of those are small businesses
- Stephen M
do you like it, or do you just live with it?
- Kevin Marks
Charlie, it's scary how awful it is, really. Only use is version control/checkout.
- Laura Norvig
Small biz likes keeping a firm grip. WinOffice over WebSocial tools
- cliveb
it doesn't matter that Sharepoint is lame -- it's cheap and IT can install it behind the firewall, that makes it important.
- Brian Hendrickson
if goog docs was more robust people would jump fast. No loyalty to MS like there used to be
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Stephen: and Box.net has something like 8 million ustomers and is doubling every 11 months.
- Robert Scoble
site licensing makes it an all or nothing decision, need to mount a major project to save anything
- Jerome Hughes
sharepoint is really bad when people try to use it for knowledge management...trying to store docs that can solve customer issues in there
- Charlie Isaacs
E-mail will persist as long as there are lawyers. Where else will people place those lengthy legal disclaimers?
- Alex de Soto
When does the 2010 Web arrive Rob :D
- David Lloyd
Tina, yep. I've tried to switch to google docs but there are bugs, load issues, and lack of complexity in formatting tools.
- Laura Norvig
I used to know how to format thinsg in word
- Kevin Marks
these days I write HTML or code instead
- Kevin Marks
Google apps just suck, even LAPD is dumping Google apps gmail
- Stephen M
Tina: That's true, but maybe from the pricing point. Most people would probably use Office if it wasn't so pricey.
- Nir Ben Yona
Office is still huge in Overseas Markets like Africa and the Middle East
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
There's QuickOffice Pro for the iPad. That will keep Office in use for a while.
- Alex de Soto
sometimes when my kids write papers they cant do it on Google docs BUT teachers dont iinsist on Word any more because Google is free
- Tina Chase Gillmor
sharepoint is not cheap next to open source content management
- Jerome Hughes
I use Google Docs because I travel so much. When I work with an enterprise client, they want me to send a Word doc because they want to download the doc to read when THEY are traveling and offline. And when I work with small businesses and startups, they don't have time to learn any new software so they use Office for Mac:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Microsoft DID NOT announce Office the ipad.. it was a rumor..why are you reporting that as fact
- Stephen M
By the way, I loaded a new app today for windows... try MetroTwit..its beautiful, and awesome too
- Stephen M
Brian yes. But I write a lot on airplanes without wifi and in conferences with crummy wifi, and I need to draft offline more than you think
- Francine Hardaway
I want to work with the Wookey! (hint nudge wink)
- cliveb
I am wondering about how this will affect the SAP/Salesforce relationship...
- Charlie Isaacs
My company is a huge Microsoft partner, gives me more reason to bash on them to make them better Stephen M
- Charlie Isaacs
I think eventually people will run their own cloud software the way they adopted running their own PCs in the '80s. it's the mainframe era of the cloud.
- Brian Hendrickson
you can get a Windows Phone for 99 cents :)
- Stephen M
I went to the real-time crunch-up, stood at a Mic and asked Jack Dorsey why Twitter wasn't decentralized like e-mail. he said the users didn't care if it was decentralized.
- Brian Hendrickson
Yes, I thought it was awesome, but the media nearly drove him under
- Francine Hardaway
MS has enough resources where they can retain their old style legacy thinking and create a new division with "new style thinking" and just let the old appendage wither and go away on its own
- Charlie Isaacs
Microsoft is doing so bad with developers they can't sell their developer tools...oh wait, its a billion dollar business thats up 11% year over year
- Stephen M
Reed may be inline to succeed Ballmer (but up in the air now)
- cliveb
Someone needs to replace Steve Ballmer fast
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Stephen: Box.net doubled in the same year. WHich business would you rather have?
- Robert Scoble
it's not like MS is going to crash and burn, but if they don't move forward, what are they?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
why do you really need email if you have threaded conversation tools?
- Laura Norvig
Microsoft had a record sales/revenue year..why replace him
- Stephen M
Regardless $$ Ballmer still needs a cloudy successor.
- cliveb
good pt Tina, also, what is their dev growth rate vs. Apple and Adroid? I paid my $99 for xcode dev without hesitation, but I don't buy ms dev licenses any more, only at my company
- Charlie Isaacs
Today you should thank me, as well for the annoying small business insights
- Francine Hardaway
I think Microsoft avoiding CES is a mistake, and seems to be based on the cost to have a keynote speaker. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
I brought the first live stream to the NFL Draft in 2007. NFL copied it in 2008. #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
Problem with SOPA is it gives power to fraudulent take down claims, even with the penalties. This is already a REAL PROBLEM on YouTube #gillmorgang
- Zennie Abraham
Interesting comments, brands on FaceBook is what you pay for the "Free" Service
- Daniel W. Crompton
Robert i'm looking at the top right corner and it's a Subaru ad -- he's not *totally* wrong
- Brian Hendrickson
Court date? Look at the background...
- Phil Gomes
Phil: Kevin Marks is in Redwood City for the geek event I'm hosting in a couple of hours.
- Robert Scoble
I "Like" some brands, music bands etc. And I click "dont show me anything from..." and I don't see this in my feed ever
- Maciej Głuszek
not seeing any packet loss when listening to you....
- Kevin Marks
I miss SV geek events ,though geek events here in the Windy City are quite awesome.
- Phil Gomes
So, Acquaintances is for people who don't have the balls to unfriend someone. Hmmm.
- Laura Norvig
but they are starting to surface tools in the stream itself for graph cleanup. That is what needs to happen so it's "in that moment" you can do it a piece at a time.
- Jerry Schuman
Sorry Kevin. Your feed breaks down a bit. We'll keep trying...talk fast!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Sites need to have "Like", "Dislike" and "Damn With Faint Praise" buttons.
- Phil Gomes
This should be called "The Random Show" ;)
- Maciej Głuszek
hey man! you're violating your friends privacy :)
- john
definitely. If I want to use Facebook for my org, share to a specific page I manage, switch roles, etc., I can't do some of that fine-grained admin stuff well on mobile.
- Laura Norvig
that is so annoying, though. I hate them trying to figure out what I want to see.
- Laura Norvig
it would be interesting to provide a Radian6-like keyword/filter mechanism that consolidates your personal "rivers of data"
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie, that's why I use lists. The ones *I* created, not the ones Facebook tried to foist on me.
- Laura Norvig
But you should be able to filter within the lists to "escalate" the important subjects/topics (to you) of that minute/hour
- Charlie Isaacs
Ah, true. Show me what my nptech friends post if it's about tech, but not about their babies. But you do kind of lose the personal touch of social networks that way.
- Laura Norvig
Facebook is doing something interesting with the way they now group together who and how many people have shared a specific link.
- Laura Norvig
I hope that Scoble was watching my "Honey Badger Customer Service" video :)
- Charlie Isaacs
how 'bout the amount of money our senators and reps earn from insider trading ????
- studentforce
Laura: once on suicide statistics, once on whether Kevin Fox should visit FF more often. You were right both times.
- Bruce Lewis
Scoble, yes and no. I think they stumbled by trying to foist lists on the 99% who don't use them. It seems awkward. I now have two Family lists. One I created myself and one Facebook created for me. It said I could merge them but that didn't work.
- Laura Norvig
(Insufficient bandwidth on this train to watch the video feed. Trying to infer conversation from the comments.)
- Bruce Lewis
Studentforce: and apps like Socioclean even let you see exactly what Facebook is exposing about you and you can delete everything you don't want other people to see about you.
- Robert Scoble
What *doesn't* let you stalk Robert Scoble? :-)
- Bruce Lewis
"Another meaning that is ascribed to the color red is passion. This can refer to love or anger but is probably more associated with love." http://www.catalogs.com/info...
- Myrna
that fellow makes you a guy,it's terrible. Probably that fellow is jealous of your popularity!!
- Ami Iida
A) It wasn't me. 2) It could have been a lot worse.
- Dave Friedel
I've met Biangkerok Salapan, nice enough fellow. I'm so glad to hear you hit it well enough that you get engaged! How's Ryan taking it? Poor guy. : )
- Jerry Perez
That is why once I take over the world, I'm strapping people like that to tac nukes :)
- Carlos Urrutia
So...you live in Scotland, you're engaged, & you've had The Op? Haha, congrats! Also, mimicry is apparently the highest form of flattery. (Or something?)
- Amy
from fftogo
Give my regards to Biangkerok! How is that old rascal?
- Andrew Leahey
After some soul searching, (2 seconds) I have decided I could be gay to be with you now that you are a man Veronica. That being said at least the guy used a nice photo of you. 8^)
- Art Gallegos
I expect you're simply a victim of your own popularity :)
- Olivier Mühring
This is ridiculous. (I've been fake-retweeted by a right-wing nut, but I've never had a fake account. Maybe I'm not popular or annoying enough...) (Me annoying, not you, that is. :)
- Dennis Jernberg
I reported it on the Facebook web site... have you gotten any follow-up?
- Jim Norris
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- Naimat ullah akrami
"These weren't your ordinary sand castles. Engineers, architects and builders - along with hordes of small children - descended on Ocean Beach in San Francisco on Saturday for the Bay Area's largest and most intense sand-castle-building contest. The theme was "sand blast," a term vague enough to allow just about anything to be built. They weren't "castles" as much as they were ideas. One team built the bird and slingshot from the popular smart-phone game "Angry Birds." Another built a UFO blasting off. There was a giant boom box with a break dancer's shoe in front. Rooftop School's project was perhaps the most ambitious: Wile E. Coyote riding a rocket to chase down a decoy Road Runner, who, unbeknownst to his pursuer, was strapped with dynamite. "It's the one time of year that I get to come out and play in the sand," said Jatin Chopra, 29, of San Francisco, whose wife's architecture firm - Bohlin Cywinski Jackson - helped design the Wile E. Coyote scene. The rules are fairly...
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- Anne Bouey
from Bookmarklet
I participated in the Leap Sandcastle event in 2009 and 2010 with my last company. Great times and the participation with the kids was so rewarding :)
- Tamara J.
This event actually showed up on this new site called FamFunDo.com. I NEVER would have even thought to look this up, but I think next year we'll plan to go. Looks amazing!
- Yvonne
"This refreshing combination, something like a salad-textured gazpacho, makes a fresh, piquant side for a Brazilian black bean plate."
- Anne Bouey
from Bookmarklet
I made a small journey through FF-sphere. Just to see what other people did theme-wise. Whether they had wanted to be original or liked it more the way it was. So I jumped from 1 account to another by going to the 1st person that had liked or commented on an entry. Does it say anything? Do you have a theme that's especially YOU?
No, I probably made a mistake here. FFundercats is not an open account. It should be another one with green toy thingies.
- Ton Zijp
That one for the field bg is quite nice. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
my beach background was a pic I took in 2004, using an old 2.1 Olympus digital camera (1999) Topsail Island, North Carolina. Wish I was there now....
- Mike Nencetti
I have a theme I also use on Twitter, My Name is E, my personal url and is in another form on my blog. You could call it branding :)
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I like Angelica's, Canada's, Holden's, and Mike Nencetti's themes out of that group, with perhaps Mike Nencetti's at the top of the list. None of the themes I've seen so far really stand out to me, though.
- John (bird whisperer)
I hate custom themes. Seriously i do. It's *never* better than the original design.
- Nik
Luckily Nik, FF allows you to turn them off so you never have to see any custom themes.
- FFing Enigma
I love them, Nik, because that's the way you can add a personal touch to the design that's all ready-made. They don't have to be beautiful to me, as long as they say something about the person who is using it.
- Ton Zijp
Mike, I'm in wilmington, topsail is cool and all, but the beaches are almost floridian when you get down to the lower half of cape fear... (figure 8, a gated community barrier island then wrightsville, then masonboro a National Estuarine Research Reserve, and then carolina beach/pleasure island and then bald head island with the frying pan shoals just off it's tip...) Next time you're in the area throw up the bat signal!
- Chris Heath
ah, well i'm just using plain ol' chrome 2.0.172.39
- Chris Heath
@chris i need something called 'time' never seem to have any... I've been to wrightsville beach - but there are many more beaches I would like to visit. one of these days.
- Mike Nencetti
Ton Zijp - The theme definitely fits the group's content. :-D
- John (bird whisperer)
John, you're making me the happiest person in the world. A weird world, that is, but still a world. :-)
- Ton Zijp
I have a customized FF theme, but it is simply an altered version of my customized Twitter theme. One of these lifetimes I will update both.
- Louis Trapani
Kindle has no apps because Amazon was holding off on their platform, waiting for Android. Change again to WebOS and they set the clock back another 18 months.
- Michael Mahemoff
More likely Oracle buys Palm for mobile strategy like SAP (funded by Android royalties)
- cliveb
Walmart otoh has a blank slate and apparently a mandate for acquisitions.
- Michael Mahemoff
The Amazon Android fork already has set them back in time. Will only get worse unless Amazon creates a full OS team to keep their fork relevent.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
a blank slate? is that one with no apps?
- Kevin Marks
Is Jeff Bezos trying to be the 'new' Steve Jobs?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Bollocks, Kevin, there's no free market in communications. That's why we don' t have fiber connections at competitive prices
- Stephen Pickering
infrastructure evolves based on demand which also evolves
- Jerome Hughes
we have the worst of both worlds - local monopolies with no structural separation
- Kevin Marks
Through Motorola, Google will copy Apple by opening Google Stores, selling Google Phones, Tablets, Netbooks, TV's and everything Android
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
The fork is the big issue which should be the real concern for buying the Fire.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
my mac.com accounts have stopped worked
- Kevin Marks
One week after Apple launches their next iPhone, Google will showcase their new Smartphone. Just how good is their latest Andriod Sweet sounding Software upgrade.
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
All of this is a mute point. As soon as it is OPENED or Cracked it is a game changer. Barnes and Noble NOOK
- amarquart
From the Amazon website: "Your Favorite Apps and Games... Angry Birds, Plants vs. Zombies, The Weather Channel and more, plus a great paid app for free every day. All apps are Amazon-tested on Kindle Fire for the best experience possible."
- Alex de Soto
woohoo!! Amazon Android free apps. I got some of those in my Dell Streak 7
- Da
so why is Google adding 3rd campus in Seattle (840 person Bothell bldg)
- cliveb
This show always continues to amaze me. Packed with info and educated opinion. You guys rock! Sorry don't mean to applaud our own show but...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wait a minute. Windows 8 is focused on tablet use....
- amarquart
I don't even remember to charge the blackberry
- Kevin Marks
amarquart: exactly. It's far less interesting.
- Robert Scoble
One thing Rim does is product placement. Seems like every new movie and tv show the actors are using a Blackberry. Won't HTML5 help Rim hang on?
- Stephen Pickering
those Android IDEOS phones that Huawei's been selling like hotcakes in Kenya is probably optimized for long battery life
- Da
and minis (or at least the OS) ~ a good friend in that space says the best thing ever to happen to RIM is iPhone
- Jerome Hughes
facebook zero was aimed at that maket
- Kevin Marks
Scobleizer for nobel prize in black holes!
- cliveb
Just hope Robert doesn't disappear down one
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
hmm, I dunno though, in the most of the world, Microsoft's still pretty unanimous with computers. It might be a no-name box but it runs on Windows
- Da
companies in the business of herding cats
- Jerome Hughes
I'm glad I have no Klout. I'd rather learn a language to communicate with someone else in the world than know the t shirt preference of a 20 something in a mall...
- Aron Michalski
his Klout score is zero but he's in everyone's circle, he's the most interesting man in the world
- Da
follower spam! not a fan of sharing G+ circle
- cliveb
If the iCloud goes social by allowing all iOS users to share their photos, music and other forms of media. Couldn't Apple be a Social Player
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
I helped a friend with a problem (how would that effect my score if I didn't send them a promoted link?)
- Aron Michalski
Everyone wants to collect your most personal details with intimate fidelity, to sell more and more shit you don't really need << bad mood about this today.
- Michael Krigsman
great shot of Steve chuckling, Tina!
- Jerome Hughes
We need centralization to build markets and consolidate customers, but at some point it's too much. Question becomes, what is that breakover point where it becomes bad.
- Michael Krigsman
Pissed off users have no other major service to go to (Twitter doesn't count). Google+ isn't offering users anything distinct from Facebook. Same behemoth data-mining and monetizing our personal data attached to our real world identities.
- Tinfoil 2.0
do we really want a fragmented web identity spread throughout the web, or do we want a centralized location someone can go to figure out who we are with the external apps we use, that push into facebook?
- Mark Vaske
I'm seeing allot of people on Facebook with this status: Please do me a favour and move your mouse over my name here, wait for the box to load and then move your mouse over the "Subscribe" link. Then uncheck the "Comments and Likes". I would really rather that my comments on friends and families posts not be made public. Then re-post this if you don't want your every single move posted on the right side in the "Ticker Box" for everyone to see.
- Kevin Costain
I'm wondering also - if there is somewhere in Facebook that we could see our own ticker?
- Kevin Costain
Yep - we're are not people - we are dollar signs ... peachy
- Xenophrenia
Facebook now combines all your activity in a category and shows, I like these videos or this music, even though you are using 8 different services for each.
- Mark Vaske
There are many privacy issues concerning the direction that Facebook is trying to take. But to make people happily join this 'fun ride' the Zuck makes jokes with SNL buddies to sell this
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
do those end up accessible by the graph API?
- Kevin Marks
Facebook is a homage to the almighty dollar ... and we have all lain ourselves out prone praising the loss of human by hailing the wonder of how we can be sold ... Facebook is the pimp
- Xenophrenia
Thats ridiculous to say. It is a service that provides a communication tool. You can see it as us all becoming narcissists but thats only if you use the tool that way.
- Mark Vaske
Facebook is the pimp whoring our humanity to the advertising johns ...
- Xenophrenia
The speed of the networks is what is killing DVDs.
- Alex de Soto
I feel like we are in the chapel with the dollar sign on the altar and Robert is the preacher
- Xenophrenia
FB will have the brand ads and Google will keep the cash flow ads, and naturally both are growing tremendously as the media moves to the web
- Stephen Pickering
Money doesn't have to have a bad connotation, if it's exchanged for actual value
- Stephen Pickering
I'm a sucker for Method detergent. 4 pumps and you're done!
- Alex de Soto
Stephen - that's why the actual saying it that it's the love of money that's the root of all evil - not money itself
- Xenophrenia
Money is a clear driving force. As such, I think it's a moot point. If you don't like it - there must be an empty cabin somewhere in the woods of B.C.
- Kevin Costain
If Facebook can get the Bank Account details of their Members then that will be a big deal
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Facebook is apparently doing a major deal with PayPal very soon
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
the ticker is the new recent news system on facebook that is all encompassing and a live stream much like twitter. The homepage is now based on the top stories relevant to you filtered by close friends
- Mark Vaske
Kevin Costain - then was the cabin in the woods addition to the comment? ;-)
- Xenophrenia
But a Twitter only comes around once in a Career
- Stephen Pickering
Wonder how Apple is taking all of this. Could their iTunes and App Store suffer?
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Apple is betting on twitter as their social bus
- Kevin Marks
Especially if Facebook has a payment system in place
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
Hi. Is there video up, or is that just my gremlin?
- Hilary Talbot
WOuld anyone here invest in Pandora? Or will Spotify and iCloud defeat them?
- Stephen Pickering
I don't feel that Facebook's Ticker and Timeline features are necessarily revolutionary. Both these things are ways of organizing and presenting data Facebook already has.
- Kevin Costain
@Stephen - for sure, I would stay away from Pandora.. :)
- Kevin Costain
It'll be interesting to watch how Netflix fare as the incumbents and content distributors continue to pull their catalogues from netflix. Just read about the possible Blockbuster/Dish streaming service.
- Phil Ashman
OK, I noticed their stock getting ripped and was wondering if it was worth dipping my toe in. I enjoy the service myself
- Stephen Pickering
I think the biggest shift in FB's paradigm is the subscription vs friends. How they transition that could be very important
- Mark Vaske
So will public posts on FB be searchable by Google?
- Stephen Pickering
What strategy has Microsoft got. They may have a small stake in Facebook but their Roadmap is stuck in traffic
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
@mark - I would not be surprised to see the future Facebook allows users to create profiles that can ONLY be subscribed too in an easy way.
- Kevin Costain
Funny how they ended up using the same terminology (subscribe) as Friendfeed...I wonder why.....LOL
- Phil Ashman
No mention of your London trip Robert, or even iPhone 4S launch date!
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
@kevin friend requests now default as a subscription, and de-friending still leaves that friend as a subscriber unless explicitly blocked. So in some ways it already is a simple default model.
- Mark Vaske
New ways of organizing/presenting can be revolutionary. Google's pagerank was just a new way of organizing/presenting info the WWW already had.
- Bruce Lewis
I never thought the venerable HP would go down like this
- Stephen Pickering
@mark - indeed, i see the separation of "friend" and "subscribe" as a way for Facebook to create these sort fo Page-ish types of profiles (possibly for brands and celebrities?) that can only be followed (a la twitter).
- Kevin Costain
it solves the 5000 followers only problem
- Kevin Marks
@both kevins. Indeed, it could threaten twitter. Robert wrote a good article about friends and aquintences, but he didnt mention what subscribers meant and its really booming. Google+ ers are now enabling subscriptions on facebook and there is a slight shift in that direction.
- Mark Vaske
Google has all the pieces to the puzzle, whereas the other players don't
- Stephen Pickering
YouTube is google's ace in the hole - the hangouts/youtube integration is going to be interesting
- Kevin Marks
@Stephen - I think your right. Facebook as all the eyeballs though. :)
- Kevin Costain
@stephen - they have all the pieces all in separate places, un-unified. Facebook has brought much of that together with apps.
- Mark Vaske
They seem unified to me in my Google account and even in mobile all your info immediately syncs over the air
- Stephen Pickering
I have to run folks.. thanks for a great show. Have a wonderful weekend.
- Kevin Costain
Google doesn't have Social Business. This will be a Goldmine that can swamp all forms of online advertising
- Moe Glitz
from iPhone
@stephen but there isnt a great way to share it, unless its done manually.
- Mark Vaske
Well all their products just constantly blow me away, translation, maps, Youtube now has cloud editing, they are the new "Cloud" operating system
- Stephen Pickering
@ stephen - I agree, but they need to unify them. I think that is why robert has "bet his career on it, but they do need to move if they want the users.
- Mark Vaske
The Gillmor Gang — Robert Scoble, Danny Sullivan, Kevin Marks, John Taschek, and Steve Gillmor — are recording live as we wait for editorial guidance from above. Or sideways.
- Steve Gillmor
I figured it would take 3-6 months for a default list - but they did it even sooner! The problem is that celebs have no desire to interact with normals. Twitter allows them to spread the message with just talking to, here they want you to talk with - that won't work. But what the freak do I know, I don't have 100,000 followers so my thoughts are useless apparently.
- Allen Stern
Allen: they needed to change their suggestions. Telling me to follow Mark Zuckerberg, who has never posted, is funny but really bad for new users to the service.
- Robert Scoble
hm, Kevin Rose's google plus page is result 2 for 'kevin' now (in an incognito window)
- Kevin Marks
oh and btw - i predict 60 days and google+ will have aggregation too.
- Allen Stern
fun fact; the bit of Moto that makes set top boxes was once an independent company called General Instruments. Donald Rumsfeld was CEO at one point.
- Michael Markman
Kevin - self mute if you can. its better that way if you control
- Tina Chase Gillmor
As long as Android app revenues are lower than iOS app revenues - Android vs iOS comparisons are moot. iOS hardware profits are the bulk of smartphone profits.
- Ankush Narula
I need to go beat up some of these idiots who underline library books in pen. Who wants to come and help me find some of them? I need a posse... FF librarians? Anyone?
I don't even mark or fold pages in books I own. I can't imagine how rude it would be to do this to someone else's books.
- Amit Patel
I make tiny notes in pencil in books that I intend to own for the rest of my life. Sometimes I make corrections. I never underline. Highlighter tends to make me stabby. I *never* did that to textbooks. If someone wants to do that, then don't resell them as used textbooks. It's so distracting! Ugh. But yes, specifically inking up *someone else's* books, or books that we all have to share, like at the library, that calls for serious punishment.
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
I'm reading someone else's books right now and the dogears bother me. People who use pen on other people's books should have pen used on them! I'll go get my Sharpies. :)
- <3Heather<3
I appreciate the value added... not that I'd ever do that of course. :)
- Ken Morley
Robie la ricetta che abbiamo usato l'ho trovata qui: http://www.ricetteamericane.com/2008... Unica cosa: abbiamo aggiunto più farina perché altrimenti l'impasto risultava troppo liquido. E occhio al forno: la ricetta dice mezz'ora ma dopo quindici minuti erano già perfettamente cotti (forse anche leggermente troppo).
- spacciatoredilenti (Cla')