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YouTube - Jonathan's Cochlear Implant Activation 8 mo., Rt Ear cont'd - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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So cute!
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
How sweet! I love the reaction on his face when he hears his Mom for the first time.
- Maggie
This made me cry. Theo was born with severe hearing loss. Amazingly it resolved and now he is a healthy little boy.
- Joe Beda
I'm all teary too :o) What a beautiful moment!
- ☆ Mellyboo ☆
:) My heart just kind of blossomed.
- Brent
What a wonder this is! The look on his face!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Wow.. just ... wow... what a magical moment..
- Andrew Terry
Joe: How did Theo's hearing loss resolve itself? Glad to hear that all is well with him now. :)
- April Buchheit
It isn't clear what happened to be honest. He was born without a thyroid. Our best theory is that it was secondary to that and that getting him on levothyroxine right away is what caused it to resolve. Our endocrinologist isn't buying it but no one has any other explanation. Not a day goes buy when I don't realize how lucky we are. Those first couple of weeks with him were terrifying....
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- Joe Beda
I am not an expert, but I worked in a lab which did research on children with cochlear implants. One thing I learned is that the development of the ears and some of the organs in the midsection are related. I also learned that there is no research that has shown that having a cochlear implant in both ears is better than just one ear. However, there is good reason to assume that the...
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- Robert Felty
Auto Facial Attractiveness Enhancement Engine - http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tommer...
Carrie Thomson, natasha william, Suresh S and 127 other people liked this
This is amazing. I think we should automatically apply it to all profile photos ;)
- Paul Buchheit
Facial discrimination?
- Jason
Impressive.
- j1m
Can I get one for the body as well as the face?
- Dion Almaer
Very interesting. Hope they post the download link soon so that we can all play with it.
- Brady Brim-DeForest
It seems as if the main problem with most people in the examples shown is their forehead is too short or too narrow. Wonder if there's a subtle clue that big brains are beautiful there! :)
- Lindsay
@Jason - that's an interesting concept. Would you be more likely to trust the girl on the left or right? Would you be more likely to talk to either one of them at a party (or more intimidated by either one?).
- Lindsay
Right one looks more dumb...
- philsmirnov
Notice that for all the women they soften the jaw, while squaring it for men. Everyone also gets a slightly thinner face and upturned almost smiling lips.
- FFing Enigma
@SB yeah and the forehead adjustment... almost like there is a triangle with the forehead at the point and they flip it so the chin is the bottom of the triangle... weird.
- Lindsay
They are different women! Blame Paul! : )
- Erhan Erdoğan
impressive
- accexine
Lindsay: whenever sketching generic faces, the face starts as an inverted triangle and the eyes appear a third of the way down from the top of the forehead; lips and nose appear below and above (respectively) a line 1/3 up from the chin. Looks like these pictures are rearranged to meet that particular school of drawing.
- FFing Enigma
That is interesting yet odd. Seems that the faces are slendered with the software.
- Jim Goldstein
from twhirl
I wonder what would come out of applying their algorithms to face of black or asian person? Different countries have different concepts of beauty.
- arty
This technology should be made available in eye glasses, just imagine how much better your work day can be!
- Claude Betancourt
Paul - Think you should definitely add the option. "Click here to be beautiful without the expense of plastic surgery! .... and you may even get more 'Likey's" :)"
- Charlie Anzman
Some of the stuff coming out of Siggraph this year is really freaky. How about combining this with the automatic video editing stuff? ;)
- Joe Beda
without a doubt amazing. It's incredible how subtle the changes are yet massive difference.
- Zee.
Huh, that's pretty crazy. Creepy, but cool. :)
- felix
I haven't read the paper, but I wonder if it adapts to different notions of "attractive" (that changes from culture to culture ...)
- Rui Pires
+1 @Claude I was thinking the same thing! Incorporate this software in wearable monitor glasses, and the whole world would be beautiful! I'll bet we can look for these on the shelves in the U.S. just before November. Social media and reality enhancement software have put Winston Smith out of a job.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
do i sense another manga-style meme starting?
- anna sauce
So, if it turns me into Gilbert Godfried... what does that mean?
- Ⓒⓗⓡⓘⓢ Ⓟⓘⓡⓘⓛⓛⓞ
You know, if these guys had gotten together with the realtime video+photo enhancement folks and approached the Beijing Olympic Comittee then that singing girl in the opening ceremonies might not have had to been replaced with a body double. (Yeah, I just brought three of this week's biggest memes together. I'll be here all week.)
- Kevin Fox
The artist proportions were laid out by the Greeks as the perfect human, that's not being used here. This beautification engine, I think, builds on top of a previous study where some students tried to mathematically identify attractiveness. They had participants rate the attractiveness of head shots from yearbooks. What they found was there was a high correlation b/w the geometrically "average" face and high attraction. That "average" is based on the proportions of the di
- xero
stances between the individual elements of the face and their relative sizes. IIRC the software adjusts elements so they statistically/geometrically complement each other. It's not actually working toward a golden set of proportions, but a set of proportions appropriate for the individual as defined by the masses. I wouldn't think of it as "facial discrimination" so much as "deviation from ones potential".
- xero
I'm waiting for the first Facebook application that automatically enhances your profile picture like this. Every social network should run this on the avatars. Beautiful people!
- Benedikt Koehler
Can you imagine the controversy if dating sites got a hold of this?
- xero
@paul automatically apply it to all profile photos, huh? are you sure you ready for results? check my picture - try to see wonderful cossacks writing infamous letter to Turkish Sultan :)
- A. T.
I wonder if they'll turn Mickey Mouse into Mighty Mouse
- Dave Q
@Lindsay; A)Maybe/? 1=Left 2=Right 3=N/A
- Jason
this will have a lot of practical applications to create a (virtual) world of beautiful (or more acceptable facially) people.
- Apostolos Tsompanopoulos
Just a complicated high tech implementation of beer goggles.
- Hayes Haugen
Chris' comment is sooo tempting
- Charlie Anzman
This is what came up as the top Google hit for paul buchheit friendfeed.
- Spidra Webster
I just read the first comment and may I ask why we should apply it automatically to all profile pictures??? Who are we gonna kid that way?!
- ambidextrous
it's long gone.
- Joe The Sausage
It's down :(
- Burcu Dogan
cannot open this link,404 is there~
- 阿石
A t-shirt every kid needs to have - http://i.imgur.com/wCe4g.jpg
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- RSSmeme
Uzbekistan Airways has my favourite airline slogan ever. - http://twitpic.com/1il6cj/full
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The Practical Quant: Text Mining and Twitter - http://practicalquant.blogspot.com/2010...
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Liking just for the article on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki..., which contains this gem " The above equation can be further derived to be an amazingly simple form": http://upload.wikimedia.org/math...
- Nick Lothian
I know how to remove content I've created from search engines, but how do I remove one of my Tweets from the Library of Congress?
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RT @GregPfister: Everything you ever wanted to know about ARM vs. X86, and more: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/print...
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Even Microsoft didn't restrict the programming languages you could use for their platforms, Apple Evil > Microsoft Evil
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Yeah, this latest move has really turned me off the platform. Can't wait for Chrome touch tablets now.
- Matt M (inactive)
Maybe Devs should actually picket and protest the next WWDC or Apple Event, I mean, this is getting ridiculous.
- Ray Cromwell
Couple this with the uncertainty of whether your app will even be approved (plus waiting up to a month or more) and it makes for an undesirable platform to develop for.
- Arthur Kalmenson
Today marks App Engine's two-year anniversary since launch. Take a walk down memory lane with me. - http://www.onebigfluke.com/2010...
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Ridley Scott will direct the film version of The Forever War (by Joe Haldeman)! That was one of the first sci-fi novels that I read (way back when) and so it had a profound impact on my appreciation of the genre. This has potential for awesomeness.
Jim Norris, Nick Lothian, Joe Beda and 4 other people liked this
Google Bookmark Lists don't have a real URL, just an Ajax hash thing. Phantom pages on a phantom Web. I'm not a fan.
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RT @David: One post on 4chan sums up all that BS socialism discussion. http://i.imgur.com/590Ev.png
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Peter Fedin, Derek, Nicola Codipietro and 39 other people liked this
That's great.
- Tudor Bosman
Great post!
- Anne Bouey
Awesome!
- Ruchira S. Datta
+infinty + my 2 cents, ;)
- chaz2b
Google Geo Developers Blog: Ain't No Mountain High Enough (ElevationService Maps API v3/Web Service) http://bit.ly/deT0vK tip @techmeme
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Downloadify - http://www.downloadify.info/
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Simple Flash shim to allow creating files in client-side javascript
- Nelson Minar
Book Flipping Scanner Let’s You Record 200 Pages in a Minute! (Video) - http://singularityhub.com/2010...
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OData and PubSubHubbub: An answer and a question - http://blog.jonudell.net/2010...
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I miss FriendFeed's glory days.
Zu from AOD, Thierry R. Andriamirado, Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど and 69 other people liked this
These are the glory days - I will never forget them :-)
- Jesse Stay
This link reminds me of some of the highlights: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Louis Gray
I only had one with > 100 likes :-(: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Jesse Stay
Ooh I had a few http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Mo Kargas
Mo's are great. Now, I recognize mine is a self-beneficial link. It was just one way to look at some more popular items.
- Louis Gray
Mine was totally self-beneficial :) I forgot FF had this functionality
- Mo Kargas
Friendfeed is great.
- Steve Chou
So now FriendFeed is inglorious? :)
- Dawn
I miss the site a lot! Not really anything to replace it with 100%. A little here, a little Buzz a little Twitter. I feel like a cyberwhore.
- Jorge Escobar
Louis, it's ok to be nostalgic. It's also ok to let go. And it's also ok to to hold on tight. As for me, I think I've gone to both places, and where I am at the moment depends on the day. FriendFeed is people. I've got one 100+ comment post http://friendfeed.com/search... . — Sincerely, A Friend.
- Micah
FriendFeed IS what Web 2.0 is suppose to be all about. A Social Tool that fosters fluid social interaction with interactive information sharing, interoperability and collaboration. It's a tool that really allows you to establish friendships with new people without being overloaded due to it's design (unlike Buzz). Many may have left and the volume may be lighter but it's still my favorite tool in general and I still see quality threads come in here.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Ditto what Mark said!
- Chris Myles
I don't have any with 100+ likes, but Kevin has some good ones: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Stephen Mack
FriendFeed is dead... long-live FriendFeed!
- .LAG liked that
I'm not in the 100+ club, but here's my most liked: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Nathan Chase
I barely got any likes but FriendFeed is great.
- Ashish
me too
- Thomas Power
Remember when FF regularly added features and its users argued about whether like should be labeled "like"?
- Carter ♥ HTML5
from iPhone
It was grand. Still enjoying it, but in a subdued way now.
- Hutch Carpenter
Louis: SUWGOMH. That is all.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
I agree with Louis but I'm quick to add that the experience is just different now.
- Akiva
I agree with Akiva who agrees with Louis. This isn't a "XX is dead" post. Just a sigh.
- Louis Gray
Oh me toooo! Can we make it happen again ??
- Charlie Anzman
We can't get them to add features to the core product, but people can write new things with the API and add features to the content creation sites that feed here.
- Bruce Lewis
CW, I'm feeling more positive than befits those lyrics.
- Bruce Lewis
I don't know, my experience is just as rich as it's ever been. Maybe I'm just easy to please.
- Vicarbott
These are the salad days. Hopefully we never reach the 'toss my salad' days.
- Morgan
As long as there are bacon bits in the salad, I'm good.
- Vicarbott
... that and a nice balsamic vinaigrette.
- Vicarbott
that's the problem of online communities - they cannot move. It doesnt matter how good the community is now, people just wont agree to move to the same place as one... They fragment, people move, new ones form, but large groups just never manage to move as one to a new platform. You get fond memories, and happy surprises when names reappear on another community later.
- Iphigenie
If by glory days you mean a the most kicking ass social activity aggregator a great community...well that hasn't changed...unfortunately the future of said kickass service and it's evolution could be construed as the missing link...don't mind me i'm drank.
- Mark Krynsky
Yeah, we don't have Robert Scoble anymore, but we do have a lot of value.
- Bruce Lewis
It's just that for many people this is no longer the primary aggregator and integration platform, and as a result conversations have slowed down, happen less, and are more often about "fun stuff" - still a good place, but not as stimulating and mind opening as it once was for me
- Iphigenie
same here
- Zahra HB
Me too :)
- CantorJF
What! Aren't we living them now?
- Jeff P. Henderson
sure i do! got very less to read now can't keep up with twitter and there isn't much relevant content in tweets, or we can say it is scattered
- ffcode
SEO tip : RT @bruce_at_google: Make your ajax apps searchable: http://code.google.com/web...
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My grandfather and the olympic torch - http://flashingneurons.deepaks...
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One of the coolest family possessions
- Deepak Singh
Low Quality Offensive Ads Continue to Degrade Web's Reputation - http://blog.louisgray.com/2010...
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Glenn Slaven, Morton Fox, Jeff P. Henderson and 3 other people liked this
So true - but I can't believe you didn't mention the Envoy ads.
- Nick Lothian
These, Nick? Classy. http://contexts.org/socimag...
- Louis Gray
Yes. This was the best article about them previously: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog..., but the one you found is better.
- Nick Lothian
yes, and FF spoiled me with its clean no-ad look. I still can't get used to how facebook looks.
- metalerik
In the Hive, users will get to control which ads get distributed among the channels and micro-channels, and they'll also earn most of the money!
- Dawn
Given how intrusive blog ads have become, I first thought the Obama one was an actual ad rather than just an example you're giving.
- Rob H.
Rob, that is amusing. You know I don't run ads... and won't run ads. My promise to you.
- Louis Gray
The People VS. Evony case in now open at AllRise online court. Join the debate and cast your vote - http://bit.ly/AllRise286
- AllRise
An informative (for me, anyway) post on Flash vs H.264 vs VP8 http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/....
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Fullscreen HD Video CPU %: HTML5 = 10%, Flash = 100+% (and dropped frames) + hot laps! /by @thomasfuchs http://www.slideshare.net/madrobb...
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Thinking it's about time someone dumped an mbox file of the secret w3c-archive mailing list on wikileaks
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polar r=(sin(t)*sqrt(abs(cos(t))))/(sin(t) + 7/5) -2*sin(t) + 2 - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input...
Tanath, Aspa, Harish and 39 other people liked this
Kevin you did it! You figured out the formula for love.
- Jesse Stay
Theres a couple of discontinuities in that graph...
- Matt M (inactive)
I'm not sure whether I should be impressed or frightened (or both).
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
The Buzz/Gmail integration is nice. They should open those integration points to other apps, such as FriendFeed.
Robert Higgins, Krishnamoorthy, Susan Beebe and 78 other people liked this
e.g. the ability to have live updating messages in the inbox.
- Paul Buchheit
is buzz a service?
- MikeAmundsen
I think that could very well be coming, but in a slightly different form. That is, Gmail proper is a client for email, but Buzz is a client for social activity. Instead of having another tab for FriendFeed, Buzz would simply and seamlessly sync everything, including comments and attribution, with FriendFeed (and Facebook) via WebFinger/Salmon/ActivityStreams/etc.
- Mark Trapp
No, I mean other apps, not necessarily just FriendFeed variants.
- Paul Buchheit
If the ux is appending elements, then salmon would seem to be the way to do it, though then it needs a permalink to hang off.
- Kevin Marks
That could be a nice baby step toward Wave (or Wave-like functionality) within Gmail. Update threads from XMPP, SMS, APIs,...
- Tinfoil 2.0
Now you're talking! (I almost typed that in all caps.)
- Stephen Mack
Paul, ah, like maybe Farmville? :-P Edit: not Farmville. But totally multiple games of Scrabble. Or even document collaboration.
- Mark Trapp
I'd like comments sync'ed between the two but that's a pipedream.
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul, are you saying you wan the equivalent of http://friendfeed.com/api... ?
- Kevin Marks
I think they should just add header tags and use SMTP standard to do it. If specific header tags are in place, then Gmail adapts.
- Jesse Stay
I agree though - I could use this in SocialToo's DM e-mails.
- Jesse Stay
No, Kevin I'm talking about the interface integration. I would like to have made FriendFeed do the things that Buzz is doing in Gmail, but of course that kind of integration isn't possible to outside developers.
- Paul Buchheit
It could then use salmon to sync comments from whatever service decides to adapt it
- Jesse Stay
Salmon has nothing to do with what I'm asking for.
- Paul Buchheit
Salmon drenched in butter and onions. Yum.
- τorƍue
I'd like to change friendfeed so that the comments aren't too grey to read on my Mac, so it supports microformats, and the faces are bigger, but I can't do that either (well, not without munging with your sample apps: http://friendlierfeed.appspot.com )
- Kevin Marks
I don't see how Salmon couldn't be used for this. Salmon ideally could be used to push comments into the e-mail, couldn't it? Or am I misunderstanding what Salmon does?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, what if I want to change the message content entirely, not just be stuck within the limits of a comment-oriented ui?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, good point - that does limit to just a comment-oriented structure. Maybe they could use the Facebook API code at http://developers.facebook.com/opensou... to implement Canvas pages for e-mail. ;-) An FBML tag could tell it where to put the message body.
- Jesse Stay
I'd love that functionality in Facebook, too, btw. I'd just take the ability to delete a message via API in Facebook though at a minimum.
- Jesse Stay
The basic idea is that the inbox structure is useful, and as Buzz has demonstrated, it's useful for more than just email, so why not open up the inbox to third-party apps. BTW, we actually prototyped something like this for FriendFeed (open the feed to other apps), but never completed it enough to ship. I think it still has a lot of potential though.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, sounds like an opportunity for competition :-)
- Jesse Stay
You didn't have to bugger off to Facebook you could still be developing Friendfeed right now and competing with Buzz. Google clearly thinks you guys were on to something here and there is money left on the table.
- Mark
They must think there is lots of money to be made in a Friendfeed clone to put it dead center in the middle of their top service.
- Mark
I think Facebook saw that, too :-)
- Jesse Stay
Mark, buzz has a bit of a structural advantage over FriendFeed in that it can integrate with Gmail :)
- Paul Buchheit
Yeah hehe. The truth is though, right now, Buzz is not as good / polished as Friendfeed. But I imagine they have lots and lots of people (probably more than was on the Friendfeed team) working on things.
- Mark
I'll defer to Paul as the expert on this one :-)
- Jesse Stay
Let's call a spade a spade. You can't say this but I can. Google stole your idea! lol.
- Mark
Google steals all of Paul's ideas ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Didn't they pay for some of them Jesse? :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Kevin Marks said on Gillmor Gang today that he was testing Buzz before he left google and that was age ago so they were developing Buzz when Friendfeed was growing and peaking. Suprised they didn't just try and buy Friendfeed.
- Mark
And nobody is saying that FriendFeed could integrate in the same way on Facebook's messaging 2.0?
- Louis Gray
Whilst we were all coming to Friendfeed, they were salivating over the service.
- Mark
Everyone has their Facebooks set to Private though, or the most popular guys have the full 5000 limit so it wouldn't be as effective if they turned on Friendfeed for Facebook :(
- Mark
I read recently somewhere on one of the big blogs that the fact so many people have Private accounts is hurting Facebooks in search revenue potential.
- Mark
Obviously you can't do cool search things if 3/4 of the things people look for are coming from Private accounts and are blocked out of the search systemm
- Mark
Hmm, maybe Buzz is a glimpse of a future Facebook-like app platform in gmail? Google Friend Connect fits in there somewhere.
- Daniel Sims
Mark, everyone has their Gmails set to private as well
- Jesse Stay
Daniel, I think Google is recreating a social network from the ground up. I think they could have just done it starting with Orkut if they did it right. I'm usually wrong though.
- Jesse Stay
What happens if you edit via IMAP an email that is being read in gmail?
- Nick Lothian
from iPod
Sorta defeats the purpose of a "walled garden" if you open up the app to the competition #justsayin
- WarLord
Nice
- TrafficBug
Hey Paul, you guys should look into the Kynetx platform. With one platform you can create extensions across multiple browsers that re-organize the viewing experience. So, even without Google allowing you to alter it, you can allow users to alter it with just a simple install of a Facebook extension for their browser. You guys modify the experience, users get comments in their Gmail for FriendFeed/Facebook, and everyone's happy. No need to wait for Google for that.
- Jesse Stay
If you guys don't create it I will so let me know :-)
- Jesse Stay
Of course they do :)
- Xavier Vespa
Yahoo! Mail supports adding OpenSocial apps. Would be nice to have the same in GMail. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/apps
- David Recordon
David, I'd love to see you guys do a Kynetx app. It could be your first entry into the Information/Action card space. :-)
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I *love* some of the API stuff Yahoo is doing. Their APIs right now are really useful (and work with Facebook Connect)!
- Jesse Stay
This is definitely a good idea. In the near term you could get most of the same benefit by making a friendfeed igoogle gadget. I don't know how many people check their email through igoogle rather than gmail, but I'd be willing to be that it's significant.
- Ryan Moulton
They should probably build integration into their own properties first. Where's Buzz in Google maps? Where's the Buzz iGoogle gadget?
- Julian Bond
@David Recordon -- see http://blog.opensocial.org/2009.... Doesn't come close to covering every use case discussed here, but does, I think, do exactly what you're asking about.
- David Glazer
even the ff team don't care about their services, how do you want it from google? may be google knows the truth that ff team wont develope ff anymore. when will facebook shut down the ff service?
- Ibrahim Ozturkcan
from iPhone
Users search for "facebook login", end up on blog instead of Facebook log-in page, hilarity ensues - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Usability observation: been using Google Reader for 4 years now and I only just realised "starred" and "shared" items are not the same thing
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and now there is "like"
- Dave Dash
Gruber nails it: Who Can Do Something About Those Blue Boxes? - http://daringfireball.net/2010...
chrisofspades, Leo Laporte, Bruce Lewis and 11 other people liked this
Yeah: users don't blame first parties for their sites not working; they blame the websites for not working with their browser of choice. I've had users demand our stuff works in obscure browsers or browsers we wouldn't normally support: the "blame the person who made your browser or switch to something else" respond never gets very far; if we want those users, we support what they want to use.
- Mark Trapp
Once Hulu switches, the game is over.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Feeling old right now - read "Blue Boxes" and assumed there was a new wave of people getting free phone calls.
- Ryan Kaisoglus
Or a slew of timelords.
- Kevin Fox
Isn't blue boxes (in the sense of free phone calls) the genesis of Steve Jobs and Wozniack's career?
- Shakeel Mahate
You're absolutely right, Shakeel - this is coming full circle!
- Ryan Kaisoglus
Apple doesn't want Flash because they can't monetize Flash-based interactive experiences, but they can monetize iPhone apps. So a site that wants to offer a richer experience on the iPhone has to develop an app and sell it on the App Store. And I think Apple has the clout to pull this off.
- Tudor Bosman
from email
Tudor: I've heard that argument a lot and while I think it's a nice by-product, I don't think it's the primary reason. If people start making quality games using HTML5 only, I don't think Apple would take any action against that.
- Kevin Fox
Tudor the one counter argument to that is Apple does have a LOT of free apps on the app store which they don't monetize at all. There is probably a monetary element but I imagine its more about controlling the user experience than pure greed. Fact is Flash is a leading vector for exploits and crashes none of which Jobs wants on his platform. Will also make his platforms sluggish and kill the battery.
- Ed Millard
IMHO: apps are dangerous and they will hurt the Web but also website owners. You probably know Dailymotion, the French Youtube, and you probably often use it through embedded players. It's a nice website, it streams fast and has some high quality content. I instinctively downloaded the app to watch occasional videos. But the mobile experience is no exception: if I can neither play the...
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- Jérôme
It is true its pretty hard to monetize web sites. Its take a lot of resources to maintain a 24/7 server, you are constantly fighting hackers and its hard to break even on ads unless you are Google. I agree its a pretty bad trend that Apple is creating a shadow web with a combination of apps and iPhone centric mobile versions of web sites. But then too a lot of web sites and Flash content just don't work in phones due to memory and CPU limits
- Ed Millard
It's not just handheld computers like the iPad though, it's all devices that aren't quite full computers. It's actually much worse with game consoles, TVs and cable/satellite boxes with internet widgets, etc. Fine for someone who uses these devices as a secondary tool, but not a good situation for anyone who relies on one of these devices as their main means of accessing the "internet".
- Tinfoil 2.0
Well I wasted years trying to push Flash players on to devices like those but Adobe frustrated my business at every turn. From 2002 until very recently all they gave me was FlashLite and it completely sucked as a browser plugin. If Adobe had been focused on making Flash 9/10 device friendly for the last 4 years they wouldn't be in the bad position they are in today.
- Ed Millard
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