"The leader of Britain’s Jewish community claimed the continent’s population is in decline because people care more about shopping than the sacrifice involved in parenthood. He blamed atheist “neo-Darwinians” for Europe’s low birth rate and said religious people of all denominations are more likely to have large families."
- Noah David Simon
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"The Chief Rabbi, who entered the House of Lords last week, made his comments in a lecture on religion in the 21st century hosted by Theos, the public theology think-tank, on Wednesday night. Lord Sacks said that faith had survived so far because it could provide answers to mankind’s eternal search for meaning in life - unlike the market, the state, science or philosophy, which underpin modern liberal democracies. He claimed religion could continue to play an important role worldwide in the future, by engaging in debate with scientists, by campaigning on issues such as global poverty or the environment, and by discussing the nature of the common good with humanists. The Chief Rabbi warned that secular Europe is at risk, however, because its moral relativism can easily be defeated by fundamentalists. And he claimed that its population is also in decline, compared with every other part of the world, because non-believers lack shared values of family and community that religions have. Lord Sacks said: “Parenthood involves massive sacrifice of money, attention, time and emotional energy. “Where today in European culture with its consumerism and instant gratification – because you’re worth it – where will you find space for the concept of sacrifice for the sake of generations not yet born? “Europe, at least the indigenous population of Europe, is dying.” “That is one of the unsayable truths of our time. We are undergoing the moral equivalent of climate change and no one is talking about it. “Albert Camus once said, 'The only serious philosophical question is why should I not commit suicide?’. “I think he was wrong. The only serious philosophical question is, why should I have a child? Our culture is not giving an easy answer to that question.” He added: “Wherever you turn today - Jewish, Christian or Muslim - the more religious the community, the larger on average are their families. “The major assault on religion today comes from the neo-Darwinians.’’ Discussing the...
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- Noah David Simon
It's interesting and saddening to watch this grow: the more moral relativists grow, the more the polar opposite grows: fundamental extremists. The question to ask, even on the shallow interpretation, is "why"? It self-describes the need on the inside to have an absolute something or someone to trust. That's not going away. So the next question to ask is why with all the other needs which are accepted and argued for as rational occurrence (and the absence of their being met as unhealthy) , why is this need, the need for an absolute moral law and a moral law giver constantly dismissed as a rational (clear-thinking) need? Aberational behavior or perverted behavior does not dismiss that there was a normal, healthy original need for and use of the idea, concept or practice. What that aberration or perversion is saying is that a need is not being met in a healthy and truthful way and a wrong choice has been made to meet it.
- Melanie Reed
My experience of this European trend, while I live in Spain, has been that: 1) The same people who claim they feel "solidarity" with immigrants who are 'out-breeding' them, are also the same ones who express the greatest amount of disdain, if ever I allow my own religious belief, even if only slightly, enter a conversation. 2) Religion is only cultural for the majority of them, and it is only acceptable as such, not as an actual faith, but as a superstition or like Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, and not to be taken seriously - UNLESS 3) It is the religion of an immigrant that seems to cause the immigrant to not adapt to the existing society, and to have a lot of kids. "Surely", they seem to think, "the school system did such a good job of brainwashing us, that certainly by the time these immigrants kids grow up, they will happily contribute to the system, learn the language, and conform to doing things the way we like them, and their parents won't matter anymore." 4) But, anyone who expresses the slightest amount of patriotism is labeled "racist" or "extremist." - completely devaluing those words.
- midnightgolfer
Yes, there is a huge movement of population and I think some are aware and are shutting their eyes to it (and the immediate and growing physical repercussions of gov voice loss, consumer advocate loss, job loss, etc) on the other hand there is a ray of hope in that if the good news is spread, it is spread faster now that the territory has come to us.
- Melanie Reed