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PS3 = POS. HDD dead after 10mths of light use WTF :(
John E. Bredehoft, अभिषेक(Abhishek) Das, Larry Hudson and 6 other people liked this
Fortunately it's still under warranty and I kept my receipt. Submitted online service request and waiting for shipping/packaging instructions. Really pissed though. I've never played any games on it, installed Linux in the 1st week, haven't booted into Linux since probably October 2008. Point is: there's been no load on the HDD to justify it dying so early.
- LANjackal
In other news, my Xbox 360 is still going strong. Superior PS3 build quality my ass.
- LANjackal
I think it's pot luck as to which is better quality. Still prefer PS3. Curious: why do you have it if you don't play games on it?
- Amy
Blu-Ray playback. It's still the reference player for most review sites out there and the fact that it's a Sony player and gets frequent firmware updates means it's pretty much future-proof for that. Also as a DNLA device it's a LOT better than the 360 (the 360 is a better Media Extender though). The 360 has the games I want to play at a lower price and with a better controller (I have big hands, which makes the tiny Dual Shock a PITA to use).
- LANjackal
Mine is 2 years old and the Ethernet port is shot. I like the console but it's not quite as well made as I thought
- Rod Middleton
@Rod: Sorry to hear that man. AFAIK the port/NIC's prolly part of the system board, so you'd need a brand new PS3. I just got the instructional email for warranty returns from Sony, now waiting for the prepaid shipping box to arrive :/
- LANjackal
@LANjackal Ahh, fair point - the updates does make it stand out from other Blu Ray players.
- Amy
I have to wonder why sony have not done some form of media distribution deal with a third party such as netflix. Given the lack of blu ray uptake you think that it would make some kind of sense. Particularly as they have a serious foothold on the content provider side.
- Rod Middleton
@g5maniac: That's the problem that's been killing Sony over the past decade - being a content producer/owner + being in the hardware business are 2 incompatible things. The PS3 actually has its own movie download library in the Playstation Store, but nearly no one knows about it
- LANjackal
from IM
In other news on my incredible (lack of) luck of late, Netflix just shipped me a Blu-Ray. Which I can't play, so now I'll have a useless disc at home or have to return it and then re-queue it later. FML :/
- LANjackal
@Guilherme: Yah I'd try not to touch it if I were you, lest the HDD decide to go on permanent vacation. I'm so mad @ Sony
- LANjackal
You just got the short end of the stick. The PS3 still has a much better MTF then the 360. Ever hear of the red ring of death? :-)
- Noah White
@Noah: I have a 360 also, and it's doing just fine :)
- LANjackal
Well, prepaid shipping box arrives on July 1, hopefully it's a quick turnaround from there.
- LANjackal
My mate had a 2nd hand 60gb version (hard to come by in UK) and the disk drive decided to stop reading but they'd collected it, fixed it and returned it to him in a shockingly short time. I'm sure it'll be fine from there.
- Amy
PS3 return box just arrived (a lot earlier in the day than I expected it to). Packing it up to ship it off via UPS later today :)
- LANjackal
PS3 dropped off at UPS earlier, now en route to service center in Laredo, TX where it will be gutted for parts and shipped back as an empty shell (I hope not)
- LANjackal
Wasn't the PS3 dead on arrival?? jk... i cant believe your xbox survived without crapping out
- Cassidy
No it wasn't, HDD FAIL after 10 mths, that would explain the OP ^^^^ (!!!) lol
- LANjackal
Oh wait I get what you mean, yes, it'll be DOA when it gets to the service center. But Laredo, TX is one of the poorest places in the country and right next to the Mexican border. Not a bad place to run an electronics chop shop. Figures that Sony warns in honking BIG letters not to send anything but the console because it might not be returned, lol.
- LANjackal
360 is a better gaming experience but a significantly lower build quality. There are a million things you can shit on Sony for but building a pos isn't one of them with regards to the PS3.
- Geoff Schultz
Rod - what lack of Blu-ray uptake?
- Richard Lawler
@Geoff: My 360 hasn't RRODed yet, still going strong
- LANjackal
@Richard: As much as I love HD discs, the poor uptake of Blu-Ray among consumers is well documented
- LANjackal
Well documented by who? It as not been a "poor uptake." By any stretch.
- Richard Lawler
What, wait, you're sending it in for a new hdd??? Do you have any idea how easy it is to replace the hdd yourself? It's intended - Sony WANTS people to replace/upgrade their hdds. For those who don't know: http://www.cnet.com.au/how-to-...
- Will Higgins™
I got my PS3 off eBay used almost 2 years ago and it's SOLID. And if the only issue with your PS3 is the hdd, it's not even really the PS3's fault, it's the hdd's. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the failure rate on PS3 hardware is less then the failure rate of standard hdd's. It'd be like blaming Apple or Dell if the hdd in your laptop/desktop died. I think the PS3's use Seagates, so go complain about them.
- Will Higgins™
@Will: 1 word for you: Warranty. The PS3's still covered, so by sending it in I get the problem fixed at no cost to me. Also my unit had Fujitsu 80GB HDD, not Seagate. Go figure.
- LANjackal
from IM
I love a good warranty claim. I've only ever heard of one other person whose PS3 died (YellowROD), out of warranty it's $330 to service. Might as well buy a new one. But yea, lots of people don't realize how easy it is to upgrade the hdd. It's a really nice design feature imo.
- Will Higgins™
@Will Yeah thanks for the advice tho, I def would've replaced it myself if it wasn't under warranty
- LANjackal
from IM
PS3 delivered to service center in Laredo, TX on July 6 @10:14. We'll see how long this turnaround takes ...
- LANjackal
HOLY S*, how's this for a quick turnaround: PS3 delivered to service center yesterday, unit (dunno if it's the same one or a different one) shipped today. That is the FASTEST electronics service turnaround I've ever experienced. And all for free :). I guess the high $400 price tag went somewhere
- LANjackal
UPS just delivered PS3. Time from failure to return: 8 business days. Not bad, Sony. Not bad at all :)
- LANjackal
Update: It's definitely NOT the same unit I sent in. Same model though.
- LANjackal
Just happened to mine. I'm fixing it myself soon found a great video on YouTube on how. Had my ps3 2 years.
- orionstarr
from iPhone
So, who is leaving FriendFeed?
Internet Strategist, sofarsoShawn, Mitchell Tsai and 154 other people liked this
And go where? Back to Twitter or...Facebook?
- Manuel Mas
no idea yet.... see what happens.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Same FriendFeed as before, I'll still use.
- Ben Parr
I have nowhere else to go. No where else gives me the high level of interaction that FF does.
- Mel Buckpitt
Of course if Paul hands me a few hundred shares of stock ... just kidding. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
I was going to ask how you felt about the purchase, but now I see
- acedanger
Depends how much it changes.
- Andrew Leyden
Why leave?
- Mike Shulman
+1 Mel - I am gutted and don't know what to do if the main FF site closes
- Matt Hooper
Why would I leave friendfeed? This place works well enough for me.
- Talon Lardner
Manuel: back to my blog and Twitter, probably. I'm playing around with Facebook but it doesn't quite do it for me.
- Robert Scoble
I'm sticking around unless there's some sort of mass exodus which I don't see an immediate reason for.
- Mike Elliott
Not leaving 'til it closes, and I'm certainly not going to facebook or twitter even then.
- Jim in Real Time
I'm sad, but I'm sticking around. I'm hoping others do to. At some point, the fuss will die down.
- Helen Sventitsky
Mike: because I expect it will get shut down eventually if it doesn't get invested in, and if it gets no new features it will fall behind Google Wave and other projects.
- Robert Scoble
This feels like that HBO Documentary about Brooklyn Dodgers going to LA haha.
- Manuel Mas
And, actually, Google Wave seems to be the most obvious thing for me to try out from now on.
- Robert Scoble
I will stick around until they move the features I like from friendfeed onto facebook.
- Bryan Lee
Isn't it a bit early to make decisions? Has there been an announcement that I missed that FF is going away? Even if it isn't where else is better at this point?
- Tad
I'm not going anywhere Helen...When it goes it goes...I'm sitting tight on the ship
- Bill Heslin
there used to be a kind of message board system ages back with FB. disppeared one day never to return, lets hope this will bring something of that back, who knows..
- Terry O'Fee
I can't wait to try out wave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Waiting and watching. Robert, I know you have a discussion tab on FB but its not the same. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Mashable just published a How To Take Advantage of FriendFeed's Unique Features. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. A little late for that, no?
- Stephen Pickering
How soon before google wave becomes available to the early adopters/public?
- Bryan Lee
didn't you just just say "FriendFeed is dead. I will keep using it until Paul unplugs the last server, which could be years" ? or i'm missing something
- Liviu Barbat
I'll stick around to the bitter end.
- Dave Metzener
Robert: Earlier in the day you were excited for both FriendFeed & Facebook. It didn't sound like you were leaving FriendFeed. What changed? Why not stick around to see what happens?
- Jill Elswick
Bryan: I heard they weren't handing out beta access to non-developers until September. Cold be wrong but that's what I heard
- Mike Elliott
I'm in wait and see mode. It would have to be absolutely sucked in by FB for me to leave it completely.
- pea
When should we cue in Titanic's last song by the band as FF sinks below leaving us all behind?
- Manuel Mas
Robert, if you believe this is a good deal for both FF and FB - why are you leaving?
- George F. Snell III
Why leave now? Until it is changed or killed, it still works just the same.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Same assessment as you, I'll stick around but I need to find an option B now. I guess I'll go wherever Louis Gray recommends
- Alberto Saavedra
I plan on sticking around for a little while longer. Not ready to jump ship yet.
- David Finch
Melanie: yeah, real time really has me going. I will wait until I get a better sense from the FriendFeed team about what will be done here. I just am not getting the right signals from the team that there will be any investment in this. If that's the case, I'd rather invest my time somewhere else. Google Wave. Ning. Vanilla on Building43. Twitter, now that I got rid of the spammers. Etc.
- Robert Scoble
I'll watch and see what happens. IF I feel that it would be useless to stay, I'll leave the site.
- TeraDyne Azurepaw
I think the features of FF will be incorporated into FB (guilt free) and FB profiles will be more tied into FF. That's about all we'll see...
- Gus
Scoble: Ning?!?! Really?
- Manuel Mas
Manuel: hey, Pirillo is over there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm staying here until something else catches up.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, I can definitely see the value of your invested time on any service, but for the average user, what is the downside of sticking around here as long as the site still exists?
- Jeff P. Henderson
hmm, ning. unexpected, but understandable
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
@Scobleizer: The big crowd is not even at Friendfeed yet and you are already leaving? Someone will be by in a few minutes with a drink. Please help yourself and stick around for the conversation. You will be greatly missed should you choose to leave so soon.
- David Damore
Social Media is a set of tools--I appreciate the connections I make, but I'm not getting too emotionally worked-up about the tools changing. FF probablywon't function as my Social Media hub much longer.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I like it here, so I'll hang out as long as possible.
- sean percival
Not making any set plans yet, but keeping my eyes and ears open.
- Martha
And when Google buys Twitter, won't that be interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: have you played with Wave yet? I'm wondering how good that is? I gotta get an invite. Off to beg someone cooler than me. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I will continue to use it until it closes down in its current form.
- ashish
Google/Twitter vs. Facebook/FriendFeed
- Stephen Pickering
+1 ashish
- Liviu Barbat
I'm a little pissed that we haven't heard much from our other "rock stars". Where the hell are they? This concerns them, yet I can hear a pin drop. I think there secretly plotting. Roflmao
- Jeunelle Foster
I don't want to but if it eventually goes down the way everybody's predicting it will then i'll have to look for alternatives :( .......by the way where do i beg for Wave invites :)
- Bhowmik Shah
I'd bet Microsoft buys Twitter before Google does.
- Gus
I haven't played with wave yet, but from what I've seen it's got potential. FriendFeed's got polish.
- Bruce Lewis
I wasn't planning on going anywhere, but I guess I'll be spending more time on Social Median. Perhaps someone should start putting together a decent buddypress site?
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
I might leave only because I quit facebook - I hate the mindset, the shallowness, and am afraid (make that certain) those people will come here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Gus: Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I think I'll be heading back to Twitter until Google Wave is publicly available
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Robert: Since at the end of the day all these platforms are businesses and have to eventually make money does it make sense to keep investing time and effort into building communities on them when they can sell/merge at any time and dismantle the tools that keep the community in place? it seems like the portable community concept of something like Google FriendConnect now makes more...
more...
- Mike Elliott
The other rock stars are drinking. :-)
- Robert Scoble
If Facebook had an easier way of connecting with people but not showing them all the personal stuff I'm willing to show to my close friends (and the stuff my friends post about me), I don't think I'd need anything like FriendFeed or Twitter.
- Edward Coffey
Robert: I've played with Wave and I wouldn't really put it in the same category as FriendFeed at the moment. It's not really about sharing and conversing in mass form IMO. Its really conversation with maybe 20 people or so but its much more difficult to focus conversations about shared content. Let everybody know when you get an invite and your address so we can add you! :)
- Brandon Titus
I'll stick around until the end.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
It kinda proves a theory I have about us all being reduced (if I can use that word) to channels. I don't think social networking will go away, but as the internet and deals increase, so does the noise. Don't worry Scobe, you still show up in our Google reader every morning!!
- professor daddyo
Man, what are we going to do without these discussions like this?
- Stephen Pickering
Mike: No community is permanent. It's worthwhile to participate even if it's temporary.
- Bruce Lewis
@Gus, Well MS has large stake in FB so I'm not sure about that. I'll stick around here till it peters out. The tech news rooms here are top notch.
- Adi
I don't use FF much other than for private rooms, so I'll stay for those. Whatever other activity I have (which is sporadic and generally not personal) will also remain.
- Cheryl
I'll stick around until they pull the plug.
- Morton Fox
Leave friendfeed? what's the alternative I'd really like to know. Is it facebook?
- Tate DA FF MVP
I'll stick with it as long as it's here and people are still active. FF4L!!
- Cassidy
What is the next thing? Where do we go now? Not FB! But where?
- Michael Liss
I heard it's MySpace
- sean percival
I'm staying until the end as well.
- Mitch
I won't be deleting my account, but signing in and commenting? No. No real point to continue putting data into a service that is gonna get unplugged anyway. Guess we just have to return to blogs and twitter.
- BCK
quick! everybody back to MySpace!!!
- acedanger
what? leave and create a better version of Twitter? or start FriendsterFeed?
- Andy Sternberg
The downside for me? I invest time in things that WILL BE not that are. That's always been what keeps my interest and now that I know that FriendFeed probably will not be, even if it takes five years to totally die, I've lost a great deal of interest in it.
- Robert Scoble
Michael: I don't think anyone knows today where to go next, because there's no good substitute out there. We can only hope that the next destination will be obvious before they pull the plug.
- Bruce Lewis
With the price of bandwith/computing halving every year, there will be a new one of these popping up pretty quick
- Stephen Pickering
I'll just go to twitter. I have a facebook account but I hate it. Facebook is the walmart of the web.
- Darrel Davis
Should we move to where?? haha
- harri78son
I'll be here until something actually changes for the worse
- Dennis O'Neil
harri78son you could come back over to my blog and we could setup JS-Kit Echo. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Damn now I need a drink :)
- Jeunelle Foster
That's right, Scoble is the catalyst for these longer threads anyway, so it might as well move to his JS-Kit
- Stephen Pickering
Robert, that's a pity. I'm lucky to deal in things that only get more interesting as they get older.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm torn. What are our options?
- Kelly Mitchell
yeah~ definitly! @Jeunelle foster please come down,
- harri78son
I see now...This whole thing was a ploy to get everyone visiting Robert's blog! I am outraged! :P
- Brandon Titus
Brandon: OK, we can go over to YOUR blog. Got Echo? :-)
- Robert Scoble
Bruce: Very true. I've tried to get into FaceBook but it's hard to get the clean conversation feed along with lifestreaming content. It just seems to be full of distracting noise even with the ability to filter with lists.
- Mike Elliott
I'm here till the end.
- Nolan Alston
Robert, the same could be said about Flickr, they haven't had much inovation since Yahoo bought them, but people still use the service in droves.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Don't worry Kelly, a new one of these will pop quickly, if they kill this
- Stephen Pickering
Kelly: we don't need to leave tonight. Let's trash the house first! :-)
- Robert Scoble
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon, that's funny. At the Boston FriendFeed meetup, everybody else had learned about FriendFeed through Scobleizer. I was the only one who found him through FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm leaving my account here for now but I'll be removing all my feeds.
- Got80s
I have no idea where to go...
- Johnny
Let's make the longest thread in FF history
- Stephen Pickering
Anyway, for the rest of today at-least I reckon I'll be off FriendFeed - real conversation is being drowned out by the echoes of this deal.
- Edward Coffey
Damn it. Why is Arrington always right!
- Stephen Pickering
Jeff P. Flickr is different Yahoo bought them for their user base. Facebook bought Friendfeed for their features.
- Bryan Lee
Got80: why do that? Who cares if your feeds are going in here?
- Robert Scoble
Edward: that is true. It caught us all off guard and we're still processing it.
- Robert Scoble
Kind of huge things in this time,.hmmm
- harri78son
Facebook bought FF for Paul Bucheit
- Stephen Pickering
I'm staying here until there is a reason to leave. Though I don't hold out hope they'll keep the service alive forever... obviously, I'm always enjoysthin.gs too, but it's not quite the same. I REALLY can't see myself using facebook as much as FF though.
- Ted Roden
I need an adult beverage. then I'll trash the place...
- Kelly Mitchell
I despise FB. Please let them not just trash FF.
- Adam Webb
Considering the free Google Wave protocol implementation and ejabbered work together, it shouldn't be too hard to quickly build a FF type service that's scalable. Combine that with EC2 and S3 and you could probably get a lot of runway before funding is needed. Robert, I think the next service you switch to should be part owned by you, considering I bet a lot of the traffic here was originated from you evangelizing.
- Chip Ramsey
Bryan: it's worse than that. I'm hearing that Facebook bought FriendFeed for its team. Google Superstars. Makes Zuckerberg get out his wallet.
- Robert Scoble
Where will be the next pasture Mr. Scoble?
- Rami Taibah
Stephen: lol. Yes, the 50 million dollar man. But seriously, there's no doubt what they really want is the tallent.
- Brandon Titus
I'm gutted about this, but I knew that Virb account would come in handy eventually... sorta... maybe...
- Linda Mills
Holden, yeah, but it doesn't make sense to invest energy here when its eventually going to die anyway
- Stephen Pickering
I'm new on FF so I wonder, are people leaving FF because you'll have to use FB to participate?
- Christopher Doiron
Stephen: not only for Paul. The guy who started Google Talk is at FriendFeed. So is the guy who started Google Maps.
- Robert Scoble
Among other ex-Google superstars.
- Robert Scoble
Robert your not processing anything from what I see..Your just gonna dump it...thanks...makes us All feel so much better....Salt in a wound?
- Bill Heslin
Christopher, it's that the FriendFeed team's new bosses will turn priorities away from the site we love.
- Bruce Lewis
They'll probably cannibalize FriendFeed... nom nom
- Kelly Mitchell
funny how many people are joining friend feed on the news of this acquisition. i'm seeing lots of my twitter followers starting to join.
- mark silva
Go where, do what?
- frankiecarl
I say its WAAAYYY too early to speculate what will happen to friendfeed next. Let the drama of today die down.
- Bryan Lee
Yeah lets all get drunk and start a fight. This whole thing is hilarious to me. Funny how media can start a panic. I ain't goin no where, I like to coloring.
- Jeunelle Foster
Bill: I said I won't leave until I hear more from the team. Why must you always be a drama queen?
- Robert Scoble
Kelly, I wish they would absorb FriendFeed, but despite the talk I don't think openness and Facebook are compatible.
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, Ex-Google Superstars is how I see it too. I don't see big plans for FF the sense was we were the last thing on their minds.
- Melanie Reed
Can't help being an attention whore, its what I'm good at :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Okay so we sit tight and wait and drink. lol
- Kelly Mitchell
but there is no time to wait a special direction on internet, It's too fast!!
- harri78son
Kelly: My analogy for this is like the female praying mantis luring the male for sex, then it bites its head off. You can see the pic in my story http://bryansays.com
- Bryan Lee
I'm in the eyewear business and so I always know how to make a spectacle of myself :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Bruce: I agree. Wouldn't it be feasible for them to simply keep the two properties separate then? FriendFeed would be the open/public portion of Facebook and Facebook could stay closed and keep its current private user base.
- Brandon Titus
Bryan, pretty graphic and right on the money.
- Kelly Mitchell
Why shouldn't he pull out his wallet. FB needs to monetize. The ex Google Rockstars know just how to do that
- Stephen Pickering
I'll stick around and see what happens, but might not bother so much with another 'social' web site again.
- Grant Bierman
:) I am what I am Robert...I'm A DRAMA QUEEN? LOL that's funny....even though I'm a much better queen than you I still wuvs ya...Still processing all this as everyone else is...Sorry...might be shooting from the hip and I shouldn't
- Bill Heslin
Am I the only one excited to see how Facebook integrates FF? I have hundreds of FB friends that I know personally, yet know nobody that I am "friends" with on FF or Twitter. FB has my friends but I'd love FF's functionality.
- Chris Nunz
There's this optimistic talk about keeping FriendFeed around as R&D. I'm skeptical about it.
- Bruce Lewis
I'll leave FriendFeed as soon as there's somewhere to go to; currently, I'm not convinced there is.
- Tristan Seligmann
Also when you are hanging with the Master of the Universe for four hours, its sort of like Bill Clinton going to Korea. Kind of influences you.
- Stephen Pickering
Rami: I don't know. That's why I'm talking with you. I just know I won't continue to invest my time in something that will soon get no more investment. That's not who I am. I will hang out with Louis Gray until he finds something cool. By the way, someone gave me Google Wave already, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
This should be a reality television show. This is where the real drama queens will come out to play.
- Jeunelle Foster
Leo's going to need a new show, TWIF
- Stephen Pickering
This week in Facebook
- Stephen Pickering
Anyone here ever feel like we're just being tossed around from website to website by the big players?
- Christopher Doiron
Thanks Kelly :)
- Bryan Lee
Chris, Yep
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce: I disagree with you about Facebook and openness. They are a lot more open than they used to be and are MUCH more professional and friendly than, say, Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I look forward to your review of Wave.
- Bruce Lewis
Openness and Facebook are not one and the same.... polar opposites. Bah humbug.
- Kelly Mitchell
Yup the big dogs are sitting back laughing at this whole thing
- Jeunelle Foster
It doesn't necessarily have to be "R&D" but really a completely separate product. Something like YouTube is to Google. Although that's a terrible analogy...I guess the products are too similar to keep separate.
- Brandon Titus
I'd pay-per-view to see Scoble and Sebastian Bach fight
- Mattb4rd
The Chinese government is much more open than it used to be. It still doesn't meet my standards.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: also, Zuckerberg is seeing the real money is in search. So he HAS to be open to really do great there.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Any chance you could share your Wave address?
- Brandon Titus
Did anyone get a chance to see Youtube HTML 5 Demo?
- Stephen Pickering
Brandon: I don't have my own address. Someone gave me theirs so can't share.
- Robert Scoble
Zuckerberg doesn't make money from other companies' search engines, so he's still limiting what data can go out. I see FB getting more open about what data they take in.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce: Wave is very geeky. I think the UI has a lot of FriendFeed's problems x10. We'll see how that first impression sticks.
- Robert Scoble
And Wave will only be as good as how many users it has
- Stephen Pickering
I guess what I'm trying to say is even if you don't think your time here is an not an investment ;anymore in anything Robert...We still, or at least I do, consider your input valuable. And if you were to jump ship too soon, I think we would all lose something. So, even if things don't look good...please hang around..That's what I meant to say...
- Bill Heslin
Where will I go? Probably no where. Friendfeed was the first time I really got to feel like I found a home. Other places don't interact and blend multiple social services like Friendfeed does/did. Just as plenty of other people have said, I'm waiting for Google Wave at this point. I'm already a Google whore, might as well wait for the Wave to come through.
- Matthew Horton
Bruce: data that goes out can be embedded on blogs and websites and interact with things. Also, if you get into Google's search engine you can get a LOT of traffic, which then you can monetize on your own service.
- Robert Scoble
Not necessarily nailing the coffin shut yet here. Going to hang around and see what develops....what seems likely at the moment may be a totally different thing tommorow :O)
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
I am leaving at midnight. 2 accounts will be deleted, mine and one I manage for another site.
- April Russo (app103)
Robert: Hope you enjoy Wave! The UI is definitely way off for content sharing (at least in my first impression) and more suited for group communication for the very scenarios they threw out in the demos. Get much beyond that, or have too many people and the system starts to break down. Obviously, the underlying Wave infrastructure could be used to create something similar to and better than Friendfeed.
- Brandon Titus
Yeah, the cool thing about Wave is the problem they solved with the protocol. Not really their UI implementation. I think there are huge opportunities with both Open Social and the Wave protocol.
- Chip Ramsey
OK, I have been out of touch and I guess I missed something. I see nothing wrong with staying with all the feeds I am tied to!
- Dave Sickmeier
April, please don't delete your account. We lose interesting history when people do that.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm sticking around.
- Nation Hahn
There is no Facebook and no FriendFeed, it is now called TwoFacedFriend...
- Kelly Mitchell
Bill: I'll be around but probably a lot less. Actually I was thinking that this was good timing. We have a new baby due in September and my other son is just starting to learn to talk, so want to spend more time hanging around with the family.
- Robert Scoble
I am gonna wait it out. If the community as a whole migrates I will go with them, but I don't want to overreact.
- Neal Jansons
it's time to have another serious look at Plaxo. There are some very clever people there too, I believe?!
- Matt Hooper
Truth is, being addicted to FriendFeed isn't a good lifestyle.
- Robert Scoble
Well said Robert
- Kelly Mitchell
April: why so sudden and why delete accounts? I don't get that.
- Robert Scoble
As you should. Family is much more important than any of this. And now I have to go fix my wig! LOL
- Bill Heslin
depends what they do with the service - I like friendfeed and facebook so I think it will probably work okay for me
- Nick Stone
Brandon: oh, oh. You said it "Wave doesn't scale." Not good.
- Robert Scoble
FF also has good tools for using it in moderation -- best of day, week, which you can get by email. Lists help.
- Bruce Lewis
I have been spending most of my time on Brightkite. It's a smaller community and more fun. A better alternative than twitter or facebook.
- John C Ferron
Robert, and yes when he does that (Money in Search), it will change the playing field in lateral ways across the Internet, especially in ePortfolios and other like applications that don't need to be walled gardens
- Melanie Reed
Your right, Robert, but you would eventually learn to moderate your use, and a service like this is going to be needed
- Stephen Pickering
so much DRAMA
- Kevin Pruett
Kevin, the Drama is warranted
- Stephen Pickering
And Leo and Dick Debartolo are on the wine train, missing all this...I envy them...lol
- Bill Heslin
Will there ever be an app that just leaves facebook out of the equation - we could only dream
- Ryan Gerritsen
i'm leaving, watching from twitter would be a better option for me.
- rama mamuaya
I am not likely to invest time in another community that I don't have a stake in. If I contribute it will be because I have a personal interest and am part of the team that runs the show. That is the only way I will feel comfortable investing my time & energy into it.
- April Russo (app103)
If we could get the other "Rock Stars" who are obviously having a "virtual prayer meeting" somewhere to get together and talk about what changes they wish to see and what they would like to see develop for social media, Twitter, Facebook, Friendfeed and now this Google Wave, we would probably all feel a little better as we might be able to see down the dark cold tunnel but they're out...
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- Jeunelle Foster
i think that I'll keep posting to friendfeed until it fully integrates with facebook
- Carlos Leiva Burotto
Did you guys see Dave Winer's URL shortner, http://rp.ly? Genius.
- Stephen Pickering
Jeunelle: Rizzn and Louis Gray and I did a podcast earlier where we talked through some of our feelings. It was very, um, theraputic.
- Robert Scoble
hahaha I must of missed it, I'll dig it up. A bit quiet still though. Haven't heard peep from Chris Brogan and all them other STARS
- Jeunelle Foster
Louis's blog post was classic.
- Bruce Lewis
Man, I can understand Louis' feelings. Look how much he and Scoble have put into this
- Stephen Pickering
I'll continue to use FF until there's reason not to. I'm patient enough to see what happens to it. What's the hurry?
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I just started on Friendfeed. It can't go away!
- Paul McElligott
Lets start FeedFriend - the Bizaro friendfeed minus Facebook integration
- Ryan Gerritsen
Well, I was rather hoping for some sort of joint deal between Twitter & FF... I'm not sure if I'll stick around in FF or not. I'm definitely not a fan of Facebook
- Tim Bergman
Paul, that's what so frustrating. Just given time, we know it would have caught on
- Stephen Pickering
I'm staying...
- Luis
Thanks for feeding the flames, there, Scoble. *WHAT* on earth is so scary about all this?
- Brad McCrorey
Brad, FF has died. Scoble made this thing. And what does he get out of it? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
Was this the Exit Strategy? I don't see how FF makes money right now?
- Keith Rowland
Stephen: I got you all as friends.
- Robert Scoble
:-)
- Stephen Pickering
This really SUCKS because when you don't have great "developers" to put something together like FriendFeed, you're really just gonna have to either take it up the ass or commit suicide. I'll hang myself 1st with all my clothes on :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Jeunelle HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
- Stephen Pickering
I'm wherever good, smart peeps are ('cuz I'm not smart enough). I don't invest much in tools - it's the people I care for. I'm not gonna abandon FF now but I understand that we'll need a way to foster the kind of community that got fostered here. Nothing lasts forever - and that's mostly a good thing in the long run.
- phil baumann
from Android
i'll be here until either the bitter end or something else comes along ... i'm really hoping that the ff-team will turn facebook into more of what it was before the apps came along... i think that's when FB really took a downward turn for me
- Chris Heath
I follow the Cheese!
- Rich Weaver
Venues like this will come and go, the whole social media landscape is in a constant state of flux I don't see why so many are up in arms. The life cycle of all the current venues are short and most of the leaders are nearing the end of their lives as we know it. But fear not, many new shiny toys will be bestowed upon us to play with. Now let's be social again! (ps. I'm sure we've seen NOTHING yet!)
- Paul Monaco
Tweet: the cheese is in Zuckerberg's office! :-)
- Robert Scoble
And for anyone that wants to know why I am deleting my account and not just moving away and leaving it to rot like i would normally do...just read the policies of facebook. Anywhere I have an account with data I don't want to be exploited commercially, in a way that exploits me personally, I'd delete it just as fast if the service were bought by facebook.
- April Russo (app103)
Zuckerberg is Master of the Universe. He spent 4 hours with Paul Friday. That would have an effect on anyone
- Stephen Pickering
I know I am able to post status updates in Facebook to "Everyone" now, but when will we be able to search these open status updates?
- Kevin Whalen
from iPhone
I can't wait till my mom gets one of my "Queenie" updates....that's gonna b fun...lol..
- Bill Heslin
Kevin, when God, ie Mark Zuckerberg, says you can
- Stephen Pickering
I love FF but I think this is a great move. If FB takes the best ideas from FF and they open it up theres is so much potential for a great community.
- Gary Gannon
Definitely see what happens... Not looking forward to Facebook turning this into a free-for-all like Facebook :-)
- Maria Reyes-McDavis
Gary a potential for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
- Stephen Pickering
Not going anywhere for the time being. I'm not a big Twitter fan, and unless FB makes some big time changes, it just doesn't do it for me. Will be listening for any other social media that might come round the bend.
- Bonnie Foster
We are getting tired of all those constant platform changes, aren't we?
- Harald Felgner
Harald Yes!
- Stephen Pickering
I say we all leave Facebook instead.
- Larry Roth
Herald and Stephen, Yes! More and different is not always better, just more and different.
- Melanie Reed
I can't leave Facebook. I have too much built up there. And that won't do anything anways. It will just be a small blip to them.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
so what content aggregator in the absence of FF?
- WarLord
My apologies if this has already been asked, but Robert you are very close the FF team. You had no idea this was coming?
- Ben Hanten
I'm not leaving. I like FriendFeed and Facebook.
- Kimber Scott
Ben: not one iota. I did sense that they were struggling to figure out how to compete, but didn't think they would sell. Paul always told me he didn't want to sell.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - I'm confused - on the one hand you've said this is such a great thing for FF as well as FB - but on the other hand you also say you're leaving FF because of of it. Why - if this is such a great thing for FF?
- Matthew Blaisdell
WarLord: there isn't a good aggregator. That's why it's stupid to delete your feeds.
- Robert Scoble
OK, a friend talked me down. He told me I'd be saying sorry for starting this post by the 400th comment. He's usually right. So, instead of saying sorry, I'm going drinking. See ya in the lobby in 10 minutes!
- Robert Scoble
I may be dense about this, but why would you leave until you saw which way it was going?
- Jerry Kidd
Good question, Jerry. I wanna know this, too.
- Brad Williamson
Robert, I think he struggled with it, but 4 Hours with Mark is a big persuasion
- Stephen Pickering
Matthew: I expect that the engineers will get put onto Facebook. So, if the smartest people are working on Facebook and not on FriendFeed, why would I stay here? Why wouldn't I start moving my work and social graph and all that over to Facebook?
- Robert Scoble
LOL...there ya go Robert...I knew you would come around...Drink Drink!!! have a really nice cocktail...
- Bill Heslin
The people I've come to know on FriendFeed are what I'd miss though, so I'd like to take my social graph with me wherever I might end up next. There's a business opportunity right there.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Dunno if I'll leave the ship...
- Wario
When I think about it - I found your post as well as the TechCrunch article via Google Friend Connect. So maybe it is time to join that Wave!?
- Harald Felgner
Jerry: I said I was going to wait until I talk with the team more, but the things I'm hearing tell me they've already been bought to work on Facebook proper. So, unless someone tells me that's wrong, that tells me I should spend more and more of my time over on Facebook and not here. But my friend convinced me I'm being hasty and emotional. :-O
- Robert Scoble
Mathew: Scoble said early on in this thread that he invests his time into emerging networks, not things that "are already here" I think thats why he will be moving on to the next big thing, like google wave or watchever new social network emerges out of this. I suspect that another startup will emerge to try and fill the shoes left behind by friendfeed. This is always the case. When napster left, you had morpheus and kazaa, then bit torrents.
- Bryan Lee
Robert - Makes sense - except that it still doesn't seem like a great day for Friendfeed - if it just gets abandoned (by FB as well as by leaders like you...)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Matthew: FriendFeed=Facebook. It's a great day for both. Cause I'll end up at Facebook either way! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Anyway, these are just the emotional ramblings of someone trying to figure out how the world shifted today. Have fun!
- Robert Scoble
clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here.
- Steve Gillmor
I'm just curious what new startup will roll into the limelight because of this announcement?
- Bryan Lee
Robert, FriendFeed != Facebook - look at the quality of commentary/people here
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
FriendFeed can stop improving right now, and I'll still stick around until something else catches up. Maybe that something else will be Facebook. I'll wait and see.
- Bruce Lewis
I'm probably out. Back to open source for me at this point. Time to take another look and see how things have progressed with Laconica, JaikuEngine, NoseRub, and some of the other secondary options. I may also go crawling back to Twitter. Given a choice between Twitter and Facebook... sigh...
- Ken Sheppardson
++Steve Gillmor
- Bruce Lewis
Ken you'll be back.
- Steve Gillmor
I don't think FB will change it all so quickly. But I do like Laconica, too.
- Monique Hodgkinson
Steve you're making it hurt worse! ;-(
- Stephen Pickering
Monique: It's not about rapid change, it's about where to invest effort. I don't really have any interest in investing my time and energy on Facebook... so why wait?
- Ken Sheppardson
stephen how so
- Steve Gillmor
I don't know where to go :(
- K.D.
I'll make up my mind when I figure out what better alternative there is to Friend Feed.
- Anthony Teegarden
Because we know FF has died
- Stephen Pickering
Steve: Yeah, you're probably right. I appreciate the work Bret, Paul, Benjamin, et al have done, and I was really looking forward to where they were taking things... before they were taking it to Facebook.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think I will just stay on twitter, because I can't stand facebook.
- Tomy Thomson
Stephen: FF has died? Well, then, how am I typing to you?
- Robert Scoble
Tomy, why change? You can listen to the Beatles and the Stones!
- Stephen Pickering
Ken: it's all good. they're moving to a radically larger playground, and they can't afford to abandon those who appreciate them
- Steve Gillmor
They will keep FF just will make it better
- Johni Fisher
Choose I meant
- Stephen Pickering
Please stop with FF has died chatter!
- Bryan Lee
I'll wait to learn more before making any decisions
- Herb Hernandez
Robert, well, metaphorically. Whether its a few months or a year
- Stephen Pickering
Tomy: Twitter is like Facebook but without likes and comments. Oh, wait, Facebook is a lot like FriendFeed already. I just commented on Louis Gray's item there. Oh, and there's applications. We can play games! :-) Herb: I'll try to go see the team next week. I'm also interviewing Yelp.
- Robert Scoble
But Steve, what if the larger "playground" turns out to be very different from the one pitched to them? What if the FF team finds that their vision isn't shared after all?
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, ok maybe you are right. Maybe it will be like the R&D. That would be great!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: are you trying to get on the Gillmor Gang? We seem to kill things before they are really dead there too.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert , you make friendfeed slower ! I guess you should leave here really x)
- Melissa Taylor
Anyway, I'm going drinking. For real this time.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
they can go build it again. but zuckerberg has been wanting this for some time
- Steve Gillmor
need to wait what will happen to FF
- Toni @ NavinoT
I'm planning on easing out of Friendfeed in the next couple of days, so I can get the contacts of people I know on here and who's opinions I value.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Pickering: RSS is dead, not FF
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, oh yes, If I were him, I would pull out all stops to get this team. I totally understand from a business perspective, all perspectives
- Stephen Pickering
business is design
- Steve Gillmor
HAHAHA great comeback Steve. On that note I think I'll have a beer. :)
- Bryan Lee
Steve, OK, I'll keep the faith that maybe Scoble's idea that this could be a Facebook R&D could happen. That would be great!!!!
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, did you see the post about this being an opportunity for Google Reader? I think it was by Jorge Escobar.
- Bruce Lewis
Reading through all this is hilarious. We really should have a social media reality show Robert
- Jeunelle Foster
no bruce, how so
- Steve Gillmor
Jeunelle, Robert went drinking :)
- Stephen Pickering
So he ain't all that. Just kidding hehehehe :)
- Jeunelle Foster
He was saying Reader has most of the features of FF, and this could be their chance to expand and fill the niche FF filled: http://friendfeed.com/social-...
- Bruce Lewis
disagree bruce GR has no explicit contract with users
- Steve Gillmor
Contract or contact?
- Bryan Lee
Wave might be boosted, but has similar immaturity at the social graph level
- Steve Gillmor
I don't understand the part about the contract.
- Bruce Lewis
If Ning is 750m why FF is just 50m ?
- Johni Fisher
users consciously contribute metadata to FF
- Steve Gillmor
Do we want Google to buy Twitter?
- Stephen Pickering
@Steve @Bruce, here's the post http://jungleg.com/2009... -- it's a crazy idea but GR could make an extra effort and put up a better web experience
- Jorge Escobar
I like FriendFeed, a lot, but too few of my friends use the service to make it really useful. So I guess I'll leave.
- Adam Washington
Adam, stay, if even only for the aggregating features
- Stephen Pickering
You are testing us Scoble.
- Özer (Wrzl) Dölekoğlu
YES he's sitting in the back laughing while drinking Peppermint Schnaps
- Jeunelle Foster
Scobles outta here. He went to get a life! hehehehehehehe
- Stephen Pickering
totally staying....this really is just the beginning....and, i just built FF into all of my Intro to Soc sections!!!!
- Chad Gesser
I thought you said you'd hand in there until they turn the last server off. What changed your mind?
- Paul Chaney
Speaking of Google. What was the point of them buying Jaiku and doing nothing with it?
- Bryan Lee
I'll at least stay for aggregation and extending 140 character tweets, and pray maybe it will become Facebooks R&D, but I know that's a longshot
- Stephen Pickering
I should get a life too but alas the temptation is too great for "attention whoring"
- Jeunelle Foster
Jeunelle HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
- Stephen Pickering
hehehe lol
- Jeunelle Foster
Regarding the "team's plans", I really don't expect to hear anything from Bret, Paul, et al. At this point I'm happy to let the Facebook (i.e. the non-FriendFeed) folks try to convince me that they're ready to do things differently. That involves more than just hiring a team.
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, maybe Paul can influence Mark not "to be evil"
- Stephen Pickering
those who think FB has any choice but to go down the FF road are not thinking this through
- Steve Gillmor
@Stephen, I was alternating between friendfeed and twitter (stones and beatles, respectively :P) but I don't see the point in staying with a dying technology, which unfortunately is where friendfeed is headed. The tech of friendfeed itself will hopefully live on in facebook. I really think facebook has become a slightly less obnoxious version of myspace, and that's being nice.
- Tomy Thomson
Steve, Oh, I totally understand. It was genius of them. Proves how Mark is indeed Master of the Universe
- Stephen Pickering
Steve, self-interest does not guarantee anything. People and companies can act irrationally.
- Bruce Lewis
So Steve, do you see two separate properties indefinitely? Or does Facebook just slowly start too look more FF-like, then one day they redirect friendfeed.com to facebook.com?
- Ken Sheppardson
yes bruce take twitter for example
- Steve Gillmor
But Paul could end up being a great influence on Mark
- Stephen Pickering
not indefinitely Ken, but long enough to transfer enough value to avoid making twitter look like the good guys
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, will Google buy Twitter?
- Stephen Pickering
you're "VERY excited" about the deal, but plan to leave friendfeed? why, exactly? i don't get it...
- Shawn C. Reed
dunno, don't really care
- Steve Gillmor
*eye roll* thread is getting to the point where it's too long and people are now asking questions that have been answered thrice.....Lock down time.
- Matthew DeVries
ff was the important value, not twitter
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, why didn't Ff take over FB? Yeah Facebook has the money, but it's the inferior product.
- Matthew DeVries
Oh sure, who do you want in your office, Ev or Paul Bucheit? Paulllllll!
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen, didn't the TechCrunch article say that the FF team would be split between two bosses, neither of which was Mark?
- Bruce Lewis
matthew who says they didn't
- Steve Gillmor
That's right. Paul may end up running that thing, or at least be No.2
- Stephen Pickering
@ Robert: The majority of apps on FB are useless imo. Every time I log on I get bombarded by 'add your relative' and 'blackjack' app requests. And don't get my started on the quizzes and other BS. Ah well, I will join your fan page on facebook!
- Tomy Thomson
ff has been running dev for a year
- Steve Gillmor
Wow - isn't this jumping to conclusions? No one has said anything's going away, nor do we know what they're doing to do with it. Stick around, wait to see what happens, then jump. Nothing's happened yet - I think it will all be for the better in the end and you'll know where to go when the FF Team says Jump.
- Jesse Stay
Kurt, he's gonna sit on it for a while, see what shakes out
- Stephen Pickering
jesse skip to the bottom for the apology
- Steve Gillmor
The FF Team hasn't let us down yet, have they? I still trust them - only when they break that trust do we jump.
- Jesse Stay
@Scobleizer I've been on Google Wave for about a week working on an interesting idea I have for it. It's very promising but its very alpha right now. You won't find it worth your time just yet.
- Noah White
jumping is bullshit, no place to go
- Steve Gillmor
Ah - sorry Robert - didn't see the clarification towards the bottom. Thanks Steve.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, you still in the Boston area?
- Bruce Lewis
Why rush to judgment? Even if the "team's plans" are off-base, what's the base? And what's off? Experience, resourcefulness, respect for users and smarts under fire all matter more than "plans." Wait & keep seeing.
- Doc
What the hell? Just because someone buys FriendFeed everyone has to ditch it? ABORT SHIP, ABORT SHIP! Doesn't really make sense so soon. Has anything changed yet? Is it the end of the world? Don't just leave because everyone says they will either. Stick around, the ship is still afloat.
- Nick Humphries
the doctor is in the house
- Steve Gillmor
But, if they did pull the plug, with bandwidth and computing halving every year, there would be another one of these pop up in no time
- Stephen Pickering
I don't see a point in leaving Friendfeed until the doors close on us... if and when that happens.
- Alex Knight
Actually facebook is the most popular rss reader of all time :)
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Bruce, we just left today. I'm actually in Niagara Falls, NY right now. Just finished watching a beautiful view of the Falls at night.
- Jesse Stay
There's a house?
- Doc
Steve, is that Doc Searls?
- Stephen Pickering
of cards
- Steve Gillmor
hover over the name stephen
- Steve Gillmor
Jesse, if anybody can persuade me (us?) that Facebook is going to be good for the FF team it's you. Maybe write a blog post or something.
- Bruce Lewis
Don't get so close.
- Doc
unfollow please sidney
- Steve Gillmor
Doc, Calacanis recommended your book to his audience on THis Week in Startups. Can't wait to read it!
- Stephen Pickering
I just left facebook a couple weeks ago - hope friendfeed doesn't devolve into quizzes and walled gardens
- Doug Holton
It's the Gillmor Gang in a perpendicular universe.
- Doc
yes it is
- Steve Gillmor
and about fucking time
- Steve Gillmor
Stephen, make sure it's the *new* 10th anniversary edition of Cluetrain. Both it and the old one are being sold. 8 extra chapters in the new.
- Doc
No doubt, Steve
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I'm in it to win it. FF isn't shutting down tomorrow or next week. But it's funny to me that so many dicuss the content... It's the connections made with others that are in jeopardy, not the LOLCat photos...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Because of Quantum Wave effects there are an infinite number of Universes, some of which The Gillmor Gang is still broadcasting
- Stephen Pickering
Bruce, I'll be working on a post really soon. Also, Louis Gray and I are going to record a phone call about it tomorrow, which I think should prove useful. I've got a lot of knowledge about Facebook, and he does about FriendFeed.
- Jesse Stay
we never stopped stephen
- Steve Gillmor
Heheheheheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
JFC, I was gonna go to bed, and here we are. Wherever this is. Do we all really live in Scoble's butt?
- Doc
Doc comes through with yet another metonym: the perpendicular universe (= FF).
- Nick in Manila
I would have had something out sooner but I've been driving a car all day. :-)
- Jesse Stay
no it's Marshall McLuhan's butt
- Steve Gillmor
Is this SRC?
- Doc
Kurt, oh yeah, I totally get that and so does Scoble, but you've got to understand his short term hurt. Look at how much energy he put into this thing, and what did he get? Nuttin
- Stephen Pickering
You mean McLuhan is in Scoble's body? He's in the movie Being Robert Scoble?
- Doc
Nonsense Stephen he gets paid in attention every single time
- Steve Gillmor
Social relay chat?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
No who's on first
- Steve Gillmor
Scoble Relay Chat.
- Doc
the medium is the message
- Steve Gillmor
OK, OK, Steve. I admit, I listened to Dave Winer's chat this evening about it
- Stephen Pickering
yeah I read the liner notes instead
- Steve Gillmor
Confessions of Stephen and Steve
- Jeunelle Foster
And the medium is the network?
- Stephen Pickering
Are we paying Scoble now? Are we his excreta and are those a form of currency?
- Doc
as richard manuel used to say the check's in yr mouth
- Steve Gillmor
Doc, HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Stephen Pickering
I thought it was "the check is coming in your mouth." Just looking for accuracy here.
- Doc
no, doc it's a contraction of 2 of the 3 promises
- Steve Gillmor
I forget what the 3rd is
- Steve Gillmor
I'll love you in the morning?
- Doc
could be
- Steve Gillmor
Well, it's almost morning here. I'll tape this show and watch later. G'night or g'morning, all.
- Doc
Goodnight, Doc!
- Stephen Pickering
I was wondering how long this would take to happen. Soon as I saw FF being purchased by Facebook I knew you would bolt. Not 100% surprising.
- Christopher Mercer
Part of beauty of FF: all their shows are taped. And yet open ended.
- Nick in Manila
It depends how much FF changes. No reason to leave until and unless it gets annoying.
- Igor Goldkind
It's "I'll respect you in the morning."
- Sean Gallagher
Oh, I'm not leaving. Hell, I even still have a myspace account. It's just a question of engagement
- Stephen Pickering
Good night all. Tip for Jeunelle: You get more attention if you make your feed public. Make a group for your private stuff.
- Bruce Lewis
they'll have to scrub this one pretty good before they shut it down
- Steve Gillmor
Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention.
- Sean Gallagher
Hell, they keep Orkut going. Storage and bandwidth keep getting cheaper. Might as well keep this going
- Stephen Pickering
Orkut! The favorite social network of 9 out of 10 Brazilians.
- Sean Gallagher
And 9 out 10 of the best looking women!
- Stephen Pickering
True.
- Sean Gallagher
@scobleizer that means half of the total activity on friendfeed will be reduced
- Sidharth Dassani
Maybe if Facebook hadn't stolen all Scoble's data, he'd stop worrying and learn to love them.
- Sean Gallagher
Actually even os Brasileiros are coming over to FB
- Stephen Pickering
My mother is on Facebook. The end is nigh.
- Sean Gallagher
"Maybe Jeunelle doesn't want attention" - says who? I only stepped away to pour me a nice glass of Sauvengion Blanc", and thank you Bruce for the advice I'll look into that tomorrow. After all tomorrow is another day. Twiddly Dee
- Jeunelle Foster
there is no reason to leave. I seriously doubt facebook will kill it.
- Logan Lindquist
What's the record number of comments?
- Stephen Pickering
Logan, I hope your right
- Stephen Pickering
Maybe if I blog my twitter of Scoble's FriendFeed and then link it from Facebook via a Digg of a del.icio.us bookmark, it will create a singularity and this thread will have never happened.
- Sean Gallagher
What about Identi.ca?
- Jerry Heiselman
Sean, you may even create a time machine!
- Stephen Pickering
Can someone comment on what April Russo said about Facebook content policy? Seems like a very important piece of the puzzle.
- metalerik
I wouldn't worry about it. The markets will take care of it. If Facebook becomes evil, the masses will fork somewhere else. We're in the age of Openness
- Stephen Pickering
I will only leave friend feed if it becomes a facebook clone. I can't stand facebook but I still use it cause my friends and family use it, but if friendfeed becomes annoying like face book then I see no point in staying here.
- Colide81 (James)
from iPhone
James, Touche
- Stephen Pickering
You know Sean maybe smarter than he looks....hmmmmm :) and what's with that bird head?
- Jeunelle Foster
Quote of the Day: "Microsoft and Twitter deserve each other. They are both somewhat buggy and don't come up with new features very often. ;-)" - Robert Scoble
- Diego Barros
It's a starling fledgeling. The perfect symbol for social networking-- it eats whatever you give it, then poops on you.
- Sean Gallagher
That's what I want to reincarnate as....an angry poopin bird
- Jeunelle Foster
Just reading all the news about FF and FB. Disapoints me personally, biz wise nice job. Um not a huge FB user so I don't know what my plans are yet. Like you wait a bit and see....
- Bryan Thatcher
from iPhone
I hope FF doesn't go away and fold in to FB. I don't need FB. It's like bringing a machine gun to a knife fight.
- Diego Barros
I won't leave FF until they make me or there's no community left. Whichever comes first.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We'll never get to talk to Robert Scoble again. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Well, it's made me think twice about vesting too much into any one service (so has the demise of tr.im). I use Facebook, Twitter, Livejournal, and FF all pretty equally, so I guess I'm not feeling this as much as some.
- Bill Kinney
on to Google Wave.
- Jason Wilson
from BuddyFeed
Jannifer, Yes we will on his JS-Kit Echo commenting system he will put on his blog. It's real time like this
- Stephen Pickering
I'm leaving. Google Wave, Twitter, Reader will plenty suffice now. Farewell, former friend.
- Californian
Oh Stephen - I'm not sure what that is... but it won't be like Friendfeed. :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
At some point I imagine I will. I have no interest in joining facebook. When I do depends on what facebook does with ff.
- Quasar
I'm sticking around till FB screws it up. But I was keeping FF separate from FB because most of my FB friends are my born-again Christian relatives who won't like the controversial stuff of mine that makes it onto FF's news feed. Still, I'm going to look for other similar sites. Posterous is one.
- Dennis Jernberg
I really want a Google Wave invite now..
- Peter
I'm not leaving but I'm not moving to Facebook. The main thing for me is to keep the contacts I've gained from FriendFeed and hope we all can meet on another similar service somewhere somehow.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ditto what Kol just said.
- LogEx
ditto on the Google wave invite
- Kim
you hit the nail on the head there Kol
- Kim
Maybe. But i really want Google Wave invite.
- ★ Soner Gönül
It's hard to say at this point. The only thing that's changed is who pays the server bill. Ask me in a week. And yes, a Google Wave invite would sure go a long way to make this better for me.
- Dale
Joined Posterous. http://jbug.posterous.com Wouldn't mind a Google Wave invite, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Me too, Dennis. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't leave if Facebook doesn't make something dramamatic to FF
- Kristian Salonen
I will wait and see.
- Matt G
Oh yeah, and I added my Posterous blog to my FriendFeed feed, so you'll be seeing whatever I post there in your home feed here. That is, if you subscribe to me here, or if one of your subscribers likes or comments. Me, leave? Not yet! ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
I'll be sticking around just a little while longer.
- April Russo (app103)
I'm here for the duration
- Charlie Anzman
I'm loyal until they make it worth me leaving.
- Jesse Stay
I'm here until they slam the gates shut. But I am hiding all your BS posts about it being a good thing :)
- jcunwired
If you want to be sure that I quit Friendfeed you have to see my burial. I will never quit while being alive! :-)
- Kolja
I'm staying but it's like when you know that the company you work for has been bought by someone else and might close it, you lose motivation and start looking for another job, it's hard to invest time and energy if there might be no future. Not that the future of FF was guaranteed before but now it does not look good at all.
- M F
I'm heading to Plurk! who's with me? *tumbleweed*
- Iain Baker
Like I said before, I'm staying here until the end.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Friendfeed is two totally different things: the original RSS aggregation service, and a social network service/community. Lifestream.fm is a reasonable replacement for the former. As to the latter, it's the people, not the tech they're using, that makes FF special. I've benefited greatly as a 'consumer' here, reading posts - if that continues on Facebook, it will probably get me to...
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- SteamCentral
i'll be around until it becomes unbearable, probly until it's been damaged badly by FB style feature creep and riddled with ads and spammers. oh, and absolutely stupid censorship policies. that'll be a real killer.
- Joe Silence disconnected
not leaving. NEVER hoho I haven't left FB nor friendser.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
The CloneFeed group has given me some interest. It gives some hope in case FF really goes away or merges badly with FB. I like FB but just don't want to fully mix the two activities/audiences.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'd rather keep my Friendfeed as my "professional aggregation" and Facebook as personal stuff. I blog, tweet, etc. stuff that a lot of my friends could care less about. And I post stuff to Facebook that isn't interesting or relevant to clients / followers.
- Gregg Le Blanc
Google Wave is what I am looking for. The problem with moving to Facebook is that I use it for close friends and family so things like comments and pics etc that I post to it I would not want to have available to all of the contacts I have on FF at the moment. Mainly because I like to separate those I know from those that I converse with if that makes sense. I loved that on FF I could...
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- Travis Koger
Whilst I am not 'leaving' FF, I will not be investing anywhere near the type of interaction I have done previous to yesterday's announcement as I just see it as wasted time.
- Travis Koger
I have to wait & see what, I don't want to lose the community; where do I go? This feels like Pownce all over!
- clarke thomas
not me.
- Edward Barnieh
Nope, not yet. I still dream about FF and FB to coexist. I think Facebook is even more boring now, after this announcement. Anyone else feels this way?
- Patrik Johansson
Not me. I will be glad when all the people who say they are leaving do so my feed won't be full of people saying they are leaving.
- Alan Simpson
What becomes of the broken hearted?
- Joe Dawson
I'm staying on!
- Charles Lau
FF is my first big social networking investment (or time) - I'll stay and then move, if forced. I'll certainly investigate other tools in an effort to fill any gap left by FaceFeed.
- Jason Miller
I just saw that a woman's twittering her childbirth made the front page of BBC's world news webpage. I don't know to make of it, but I don't want to hang out at Twitter much anymore.
- Mitch
Mitch: we Twittered our childbirth in 2007 and we will again in September, but probably not on our main account.
- Robert Scoble
won´t leave!!! i LOVE friendfeed. @Mitch i know what you mean. So many stories and this is the one they picked?
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
i think i'm stayin, and wait what's goin on facebook. i will feel upset if they dont allow the users to make their choice of using one or other site, but looks like they gonna force to use FB instead of FF :(
- Dani Martínez
Not sure how on board with FriendFeed I ever was to begin with to be honest...
- Gurpreet
FriendFeed will be fine - FaceBook is fine - and so is Twitter - I might check out AmpliFeeder, I suspect quite a few FriendFeeders will migrate there as the days go by.
- Chris Loft
Not leaving FF but I can't wait till it's properly integrated with Facebook. Interesting thing: Wave's API is open so there's nothing to stop Facebook creating an app to make Facebook & Wave work great together. Not so much either/or as and... and..!
- Matt Moran
Has anyone tried amplifeeder? edit: so far don't see any friending abilities though
- metalerik
Why leave? But will be open to see other options - facebook doesn't (currently) provide to me what I get here.
- amygeek
Facebook bought friendfeed http://adage.com/digital...
- Rob Johnson
OH NO, I just finish moving all my stuff HERE!
- Terence
Robert: I closed down my embeds today. Sad for my blog.
- Mark Essel
I stay on FriendFeed, on Twitter, on Facebook, etc.
- Emmanuel Gadenne
I won't delete my account, but as FF morphs into the ball of confusion that is Facebook, I won't be very active.
- Jeremy Brooks
I will. No point sticking around when you know it is going to die sooner or later. With twitter you still have the hope....
- Davide D'Incau
I'll leave Facebook if FF gets harmed. And go back to Identi.ca... ;-)
- Torrid Luna
Yeah, I'll probably leave Facebook too. If they're going to "steal" the FriendFeed functions and just let FF die, I will not have any sympathies left for Facebook. I'll go "all Google" or something.
- Patrik Johansson
I'll stay on FF, FB and T, and BK, and other, BrightKite is not well utilised, is good even on beta.
- Andy Ghozali
I joined posterous for blogging/lifestreaming and will continue to use twitter. I might go on facebook once in a while, which is what I was doing anyway.
- Tomy Thomson
Robert: If you're looking for an awesome real-time discussion platform, you should migrate to Fluther. http://www.fluther.com
- Ben
I'm staying put and watching the ship sink. I'd really like to believe that FriendFeed will have some longevity, but I won't hedge my bets.
- Tyson Key
Steve Gillmor said "clue to the denouement: where is the most valuable processing of this event. Right here." so for now, FF looks like the space.
- Barbara K. Iverson
I intend to stick around to see what Facebook have planned. I think the takeover has everything to do with the direction FB's been heading in lately, what with their open challenge to Twitter
- Dennis Jernberg
I don't see it as leaving, but rather seeing the possibility that it might leave us. FF was and still is just about my favorite site and uberaggregatorthing that I ever saw....
- Rob Schieber
+100 Rob Schieber
- Tyson Key
I will stay. Facebook will not Win.
- TheHenry
Nope... I'll stay, even if I ride it to a bitter end.
- Mark "Godt Nyt Ǻr"
depends. if they stay seperate services, i wont like the acquisition,but i'll stay. if they become 1 service, i'm out. and where is every1 going from friend feed anyhow. what else is there?
- echostreamer
Will wait and see what happens with FB
- Ted Kinzer
fb ruins everything. Have the Privacy policy "not "changed since fb came into the pic? Can they not build their own ideas instead of buying everyone else's? leave us geeks to play in our playground and stay in yours. greedy buggers. The second they pull a skanky fb move i'm out. bitches.
- seastarerrin
I'm here till the ship goes down.
- Lee Watters
Leaving no. Checking out other venues yes.
- Martha
Just maybe Facebook will listen to the Friendfeed engineers in charge of user interface/usability starting with the type size and fonts. Not all marriages are made in heaven. Culture clashes are sure to pop up.
- Alan Morris
I am leaving Web - Back to Telnet
- Dominique Rabeuf
Dominique, too late. The web already assimilated it with the telnet: url schema.
- Bruce Lewis
OK so only snmp/ssh
- Dominique Rabeuf
Hell no, not leaving. Best service on the web.
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
gonna ride this one out to shore.
- Sean Oliver
hu?
- Dries Grobler
back to blogs :-)
- Mostafa Lameei
I was about to focus a little more on FF but since I heard about the purchase and read rumors about FF being integrated in FB and being shutdown and all this, I'm getting a little ... well.. undecided.. Just checked Streamy, didn't like it. If a.tinythread.com get's more development, this might be the next thing to migrate to. I'm sure not moving to FaceBook. I have my account, I have...
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- Dan van Moll
Minitel 3815 (?)
- Dominique Rabeuf
Not interested in being part of Facebook. Goodbye, FriendFeed. :-(
- TranceMist
I wish more folks would see the big picture. We need to focus on independent projects that are NOT part of the Google-Yahoo-Microsoft borg. As soon as a site gets absorbed it is time to find another independent site. Yes, I do realize that some may have actually been part all along and only pretending they were independent in the first place - especially if they were founded by...
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- Internet Strategist
LANjackal to LANjackal's feed, Mozilla Firefox, Microsoft Talk, TheNextWeb Forum, RWW: The Future of Tech, building43, Chrome, All Things Google
Microsoft: "dropping support for IE6 is not an option" - http://arstechnica.com/microso...
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"The engineering point of view on IE6 starts as an operating systems supplier. Dropping support for IE6 is not an option because we committed to supporting the IE included with Windows for the lifespan of the product. We keep our commitments. Many people expect what they originally got with their operating system to keep working whatever release cadence particular subsystems have. As engineers, we want people to upgrade to the latest version. We make it as easy as possible for them to upgrade. Ultimately, the choice to upgrade belongs to the person responsible for the PC."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
YES IT IS!!!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Oh, come on!!
- Peter
@LANjackal We don't have an IT deparment. ;)
- Mathew™ one of a kind
There are a number of deficiencies with the arguments and assertions presented in this blog. The notion of using the "forced upgrade" as a defense to supporting IE6 is a bit of the kettle calling the pot black. Just ask Windows XP users who are perfectly content using that OS and have no desire to go to Vista or Windows 7. The bottom line is the further away from IE6 the world goes, the...
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- Noah White
I wish there was an inplace upgrade path from XP to Windows 7.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Engineering POV: IE6: The topic of site support for IE6 has had a lot of discussion on the web recently as a res.. http://blogs.msdn.com/ie...
There are a number of deficiencies with the arguments and assertions presented in this blog. The notion of using the "forced upgrade" as a defense to supporting IE6 is a bit of the kettle calling the pot black. Just ask Windows XP users who are perfectly content using that OS and have no desire to go to Vista or Windows 7. The bottom line is the further away from IE6 the world goes, the more interoperable the web becomes between browsers. The more of a commodity the browser becomes. At that point Microsoft/IE must differentiate itself not by feature lock-in - which gives Microsoft the ability to completely manage to its business needs - but to standards which it must compete against with other vendors. Microsoft if trying their hardest to avoid browser commoditization which is why they drag their feet on technologies like HTML 5. Finally, the choice argument can be summed up thusly - Microsoft believes that browser's don't kill the Internet, people kill the Internet.
- Noah White
8 Backup Solutions for OS X « AppStorm - http://mac.appstorm.net/roundup...
Micah Wittman, HealingBrush, Jannifer @wordsforliving and 17 other people liked this
I'm missing JungleDisk in that list...
- Holger Eilhard
JungleDisk is great. I use it to back up all my iTunes and Amazon downloads along with my photos and documents. Dead handy.
- Timothy Griffin
DropBox is great, especially the automatic sync!
- Holger Eilhard
i *love* dropbox. it just works, its cross platform including mobile, and its brain dead simple.
- Frank Jurden
Dropbox rules.
- Bill Sodeman
I use Time Machine and Mozy.
- Noah White
Love Mozy
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
Dropbox and Mozy are my everyday solutions, and SuperDuper is my once a month complete HD backup.
- Eugene Huo
Aline Ohannessian to Aline's feed, The Apple Room, TheNextWeb Forum, RWW: The Future of Tech, Social Media Club
Postbox: The New Free Mail Client for Mac and Windows - no doubt you'll Love it ☺ - http://www.designmarketingadve...
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Still needs calendaring support before I'll look at it. Thunderbird isn't great but at least it has a calendaring plug-in that works well.
- Noah White
Noah: I hear what you're saying about the calendaring...they're still in beta, so hopefully they'll incorporate it :o) - But pretty awesome client!!
- Aline Ohannessian
ok so i've downloaded Postbox and so far i'm liking it! - Mac Mail was giving me some problems, slow on loading the emails...not to mention a bunch of other slow downs. Alas i don't have everything figured out YET with Postbox, but so far pretty smooth - love the speed of email load (and i've got a lot of different emails)...the only thing, the email notification 'sound alert' is not sounding :( even though i have checked it on in prefs.
- Aline Ohannessian
IPhone 3GS owners bemoan its battery life - Los Angeles Times - http://www.latimes.com/busines...
Darren Heydon, Harun R. Demirbaş and Noah White liked this
"Buyers are finding that the device has trouble making it through a workday without a rest stop at the electrical outlet"
- jnman
from Bookmarklet
"Other so-called smart phones, such as Palm Inc.'s new Pre, face similar battery problems as the appetite for power grows increasingly ravenous. The Pre typically offers about five hours of talk time on a charge, but, unlike the iPhone, its battery can be swapped out easily for a spare, Reynolds said."
- jnman
I've had all three models. My usage pattern between this and the 3G is the same including disabling push notifications and my experience has been that the GS has a much shorter battery life for my usage pattern then my 3G did and certainly my 2G (though its a bigger stretch to make a comparison between the 2G and 3G/S models).
- Noah White
Would you take a Prius over a Porsche? - http://www.fastcompany.com/blog...
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Would you take a Prius over a Porsche? An Escape over an Escalade? Global research firm Synovate asked more than 13,500 people in 18 global markets if--given that money is not an object--they would purchase a "dream" car or a "green" car. Six of 10 people said they would take the green car. But the deciding factors tended to be more economical than ecological.
- Shevonne
Yes I would.
- CW™
I would as well
- Shevonne
I bought a Prius and sold a BMW. So there!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yep.
- Alix Whitmire
Couldn't I just wait for the Porsche 911 Turbo Hybrid?
- Bryan Zirkel
Yes to both. I'd rather walk than drive either a Porsche or, kill me, an Escalade.
- Admiral Anika
Nope.
- Steve Chou
Nope. I ride my bicycle to work and really only drive my 22 year old Porsche on weekends, but I wouldn't want to ever give up the pure pleasure of driving my little coupe.
- Drew
@Bryan The Porsche Hybrid is coming out this year? Just read it will be hitting Australia first.
- Shevonne
Shevonne, I have no clue to be honest. It was more wishful thinking but if they're actually doing it then I'd most def take the hybrid Porsche than the hybrid cheese wedge.
- Bryan Zirkel
Porsche had the first hybrid in 1901: http://www.ecogeek.org/content...
- Drew
The Cayenne will supposedly be available as a hybrid in 2010 http://is.gd/1m7Bg
- Drew
That's cool!!!
- Steve Chou
I think the right idea is launching the hybrid with a different name and shape a la the Prius. Just as driving a BMW makes you look like the douchebag you want to look like, a Prius makes you look like the environmentalist douchebag you want to look like. :)
- Wirehead
a prius is more practical considering i dislike always going to the petrol station -especially when there's a line, crowds, & hot sun. i don't like the shape of the prius however. and, i never found a porsche cool, but rather loud, noisy, and impractical for utilitarians. douches who smell of bad cologne typically drove them. it doesn't fit my modern style. if more cars had better mpgs...
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- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
No
- Michael Fidler
Automobiles, regardless of powertrain, consume a lot of resources to produce in the first place. The idea that by choosing a "green" car you somehow eliminate the massive environmental footprint of making that car is a prime example of feel-good delusional thinking. We need to look at the lifecycle environmental cost of everything. See http://storyofstuff.com
- Victor Panlilio
Sorry, just hate the looks of a Prius....never owned a Porsche, probably never will, but I do have fond memories of them. I would never, ever own an Escalade!
- Bonnie Foster
I absolutely LOVED my '02 prius, and it saved my LIFE too ... 101 headed into SF, was cut off in '06, nowhere to go.. have a look at what happened to the car, amazed I'm still breathing... http://www.omfglol.org/pics... .... went under a semi, hit center divider.. have not asked toyota for a spokesperson role but considered it,. ha.. VERY thankful to be here, 'ave a look... // 18percentgrey ~ twitter --- aka Omar :)
- Omar
even hummer will have a hybrid h3 soon rated at (supposedly) 100MPG! http://www.nydailynews.com/money... AND there's a guy working on a 60MPG hummwv (h1/oldschoohummer) http://www.fastcompany.com/magazin...
- Chris Heath
via that fastcompany link: "Think about it: a 5,000-pound vehicle that gets 60 miles to the gallon and does zero to 60 in five seconds!"
- Chris Heath
Bonnie: the new Prius looks quite different from the old one. I didn't like the old one's styling either.
- Robert Scoble
Nope. And looking at a G55, too.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I'm a walker, i love cars, but hate the idea of driving. I really want a small portable kick scooter.
- Kirill Bolgarov
nope!!!!!!! :))
- Lars Clausen
I'd sell the Porsche and buy a Subaru
- Rodfather
I would take the Prius over the Porsche, due to the fowl look of the Porsche. An Escalade over the Escape for the beauty of the vehicle.
- Zachary TG
I'd take the Porsche, sell it and buy a couple of Priuses.
- Joshua M
I'd have to have 2 Prius and strap one to each foot, because i'd never fit inside.
- Robert Hafer
from iPhone
Give me the Carrera S Turbo any day!
- Noah White
Heck yes. I used to drive a Prius for work. I loved it.
- Rochelle
That's a cool survey. I wonder if the Porsche is the same price?
- Chris Harris
I love my Prius. I live in the city and drive about 20 mph anyway in stop & go traffic. No need for speed.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Nope sure wouldn't.
- *Tiffany Diamond*
Why Oh why does every Hybrid on the planet look sooo Butugly?
- Chris Harris
No, but I have both already. ;) Also, I don't think most Porsche's look like fowl. Is there a particular model that does?
- Cristo
If I was rich enough to buy a Porsche I'd have both too.
- Alex Scoble
If I was rich, I'd buy a Porsche GT. It's got 10 cylinders, and gets about 10 mpg.
- Cristo
Cristo, you are rich. Also, it's "foul", not "fowl", unless you think a Porsche looks like a chicken.
- Rochelle
Rochelle, thank you. It's my friends on friendfeed that are important. Also, my sparkling personality. ;)
- Cristo
"I would take the Prius over the Porsche, due to the fowl look of the Porsche. An Escalade over the Escape for the beauty of the vehicle. - Zachary TG"
- Cristo
Rochelle, I was making spelling humor. ;)
- Cristo
How dare you.
- Rochelle
No...prius it's really ugly....
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
Prius, More Eco and I like the tech in the car.
- Randy Allen Bishop
Yes, I don't Porsche.
- Mike Reynolds
I'm sure I'm wrong, but, it seems most people really have no delight i the passion of driving and instead see it as a chore. For the majority, then, a car with all the excitement of a refrigerator is perfect.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
yes
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Porsche has made some of the best cars on the planet. If you don't like any of them, you don't like really nice cars (and have probably never driven one either). I like Prius too, so I guess I'm in the minority. They're not really in the same category though.
- Cristo
nah
- Nation Hahn
I'd get the porsche, sell it, and buy a couple priuses.
- Rick Cogley
I'd take the Tesla over the Porshe
- KyNam Doan
Mark, there's more excitement to a Prius than a refrigerator...much more...at least if you are my brother. :)
- Alex Scoble
I've been driving a MINI for most of this decade and I'm about to hit 40. I'll take the Porsche. Thanks!
- Adrian
Three day charge? That's flagrant exaggeration
- Chris Heath
from iPhone
actually I take a subway over a car, period
- Bastard Operator From FF
+1 Sean. Wish we had viable mass transportation here, but we don't. Urban sprawl FTL.
- Jason Huebel
Word to Rodfather......I'd choose the Porsche then sell it to buy gas for my Subaru. Maybe I'll change my mind when they make a Prius that goes good in the snow.
- suzanne
suzanne, you could sell it to me. I'm looking for a low mileage Porsche 964 or 993. Must be silver with black interior. Full leather, and cabriolet. Best cars ever made IMHO.
- Cristo
5 Free Password Generators For Nearly Unhackable Passwords - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag...
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"What characterizes a strong password? First of all, its length. The longer the password, the stronger it is and the longer it takes to be cracked. Secondly, the entropy or randomness of the generation process. If the attacker can make some statistical assumptions based on the method of generation, even a alphanumerical 8 character password can be cracked within hours. The third characteristic of password generator is trust."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Shit, I should have posted this to the Security group too gaaaah
- LANjackal
The IronKey looks hot. Too bad the 8GB model is $300!
- Noah White
Google Voice Now Lets You Change Your Number. It’ll Cost You $10. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Daniel Rowley, Hal, Daniel Brusilovsky and 12 other people liked this
Number portability can't be far off
- Russ Jackson
yep. you saw this right? http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- MG Siegler
Why can't I "not like" this :P
- Adam Jackson
Still waiting on my invite even though I signed up for it the first day they offered invites.
- Noah White
Google is always thinking. I need my invite, I have been waiting for what feels like a year!
- Jay Farmington
Postbox 1.0 Beta 13 Now Available — Postbox - http://postbox-inc.com/...
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"Postbox BETA 13 is now available for download! This release contains lots of great stuff that we hope you enjoy"
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Most notable is (upcoming) support for Zindus, which allows contact syncing with Gmail (finally!)
- LANjackal
They need to deal with auto-collapsing quoted material in HTML e-mail conversations.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Do they have calendar support yet?
- Noah White
@Noah: Don't think so
- LANjackal
And I hope they don't. At least not until v2 or something. I'd like them to perfect the mail part of the app before moving on to anything else. Too many apps suffer from trying to do too much so instead of being great at one thing, they're mediocre at several.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Verizon says house shoppers crave high-fiber Internet diet - http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...
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Noah White liked this
When I was shopping for a house I checked to make sure I could get high speed DSL back in the day. I can see where being able to get fiber would also be a plus to a certain niche set of buyers. However for the majority/average broadband subscriber I think there is little distinction between fiber and high speed coax / cable.
- Noah White
French Guy Discovers Hidden Feature in The New Mac Books! - http://www.liveleak.com/view...
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I wish I had that kind of free time....
- Geoff Captain
from twhirl
Recycle alert. This is old news.
- Noah White
Re-Downloading Deleted iPhone Apps May Become Costly in OS 3.0 - http://theappleblog.com/2009...
If true this would suck. Call it the download tax.
- Noah White
Ryanair could make passengers pay for toilets (AP) - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
Ryanair is one of the worst airlines.
- Noah White
Sirius XM to file for bankruptcy; end is near for satellite - http://digg.com/tech_ne...
"They may file for bankruptcy but I bet Echostar will bail em out."
- Noah White
ESPN to ISPs: Pay for Your Customers to Play Video - http://blog.wired.com/busines...
A horrible model for consumers because ISPs will pass this along to all their customers regardless if they ever visit one of these sites.
- Noah White
What are people's verdict of MobileMe? Ideally from people who use it on a daily basis...
Andrew Trinh, Kenley Neufeld and Mark Dodson liked this
I have found it to be somewhat useless besides the syncing capabilities to my iPhone. I have had it since the very first day it has come out and I have probably logged into the web interface a total of 10 times. The fact that this service, which should be free, is not free makes it even less desirable until Apple makes drastic improvements to it.
- Vinny
Vinny, why should it be free? Just curious. If it's useless, why do you keep the subscription? (or do you?).
- mikepk
@mikepk It doesn't provide anything that other companies can and are providing for no cost. The only reason I still have it is because I paid for it a year in advance when I first purchased it. I don't plan on renewing unless better integration and more features are added.
- Vinny
a couple of years? oh u mean including mac.com - i just mean what mobileme has been like since it's release...
- Zee.
I love it. The ability alone to sync all my calendars and contacts with my iPhone, Mac, and PC's is worth the price alone.
- Spencer
Call it what you will. MobileMe is the engine that drives iWeb, MacGallery, and the syncing. In fact, it enables Outlook users to sync with their iPhone / iPod Touch for calendars and email. Easily worth $99.00 a year just for the hosting aspects associated with iWeb. Plus it enables Mac users with multiple machines to sync them. The new user interface is better than under ,Mac I love it.
- Garth Bradley
I just bought it last night ...so far so good ... not sure that I will use the diskspace ... sync is what I needed it for , Iphone to MacBook Pro
- johnpiercy
Syncing between home and work computers has been a life altering technology for me. With everything syncing to the iphone, and between work and home, I no longer have to lug around my Macbook pro everyday. In conjunction with the iphone, it really became handy. It is still a little pricey though......
- Tom Mancino
I have decided to stick with google - having a jailbroken iPhone I use NemusSync to sync my Cal, Pixelpipe for images.... only issue is that my contacts are still not part of NemusSync - but I am hoping it will come...
- Thomas Jeppesen
see here: http://web.me.com/dlahely
- Didier Lahely
Syncing my contacts, events and settings across 3 devices makes it very useful for me. I use the IMAP mail facility but I could get that elsewhere for free, ditto for iDisk, but I still use both of those facilities.
- Paul Grav
Underwhelming and overpriced, but it saves me loads of time syncing contacts and calendars between 3 - 5 computers and an iPhone. I could kludge something together for less money but I'd have to pay too much attention to it. It's been set it and forget it for me. iDisk space is nice in an emergency or for a quick transfer. I like the .mac.com email address for subscriptions that I suspect are going to spam me.
- M C Morgan
Great for iPhone sync and archival backup. Mobile Me email is ok but I use it for only a few low volume tasks. I use dropbox for cloud storage of my active files.
- Bill Sodeman
from fftogo
The web interface is horribly slow. I actually like the old version better. I like the iLife integration for easy of use for uploading photos, creating a small site etc.
- Noah White
I too use it only for the syncing capabilities to my iphone. That functionality is wonderful.
- Phil McCredden
Use it primarily for email and iPhone/Mac sync.
- Rom Feria
I really like it. When i took my iPhone back to get a replacement i just put in my details and ina few minutes i was back in business. Handy for syncing all my computers and phone to have the same calender and bookmarks too. Dont really use the web part of it.
- Simon Wicks
@Thomas Jeppesen: MobileMe only exists because the iPhone SDK does not allow for the Syncing of calendars via SyncML protocols. It does however allow the syncing contacts using the same protocol so for the same contact functionality you can sync your contacts to ScheduleWorld of myFunambol and then sync every other device or computer you have to that to have your contacts everywhere...for free. You can find Funambol in the App Store
- dedlam
I don't have an iPhone or MobileMe but my SIL does. We had a discussion about it & if there were "ways around it" and she showed me how she can't live without it. Me personally, 1st thing I'd do upon getting an iPhone is invest the extra time to save the money, but I can really see how it makes sense for her and her business. I like to tinker, she just wants to get er done & will pay the premium for it. I suspect she's not the only one, but then neither am I.
- TheMacMommy
I've had it since launch day and was really looking forward to integrating calendar data between iPhone, Mac, and Outlook on PC. Unfortunately it was so unreliable and wreaked such havoc on my work flow that I haven't used it since. Can anyone speak to whether or not the syncing issues have been corrected, particularly between Mac and PCs?
- RyanEs
Benheck's PC Mod Pick of the Day - Project: Passive! - http://blog.makezine.com/archive...
I'm guessing this is look but don't touch...
- Noah White
Five Remarkable Features in the Canon 5D Mark II that You Might Not Know About - http://www.thedigitalstory.com/blog...
This baby is on my short list.
- Noah White
Rare 1937 Bugatti supercar found in English garage (AP) - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
That's one cool beast
- Noah White
DIY V12 Lamborghini Diablo - http://blog.makezine.com/archive...
@eclip5e Wanna build one?
- Noah White
17" Unibody MacBook Pro with Non-Removable Extended-Life Battery? - http://www.macrumors.com/2009...
Non removable battery? Not liking that.
- Noah White
3 Smart Things About Sleeping Late - http://www.wired.com/science...
Maybe I should start waking up later
- Noah White
Google Reader API is Coming Soon - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
This is awesome news. I have some interesting ideas for this.
- Noah White
McDaniels interviews with Browns - http://www.boston.com/sports...
Not to worry Pats fans .. It's the Belichick system not an individual coach (Mangini/Weis) or player.
- Noah White
U.S. backs plan for engaging Afghan tribes (Reuters) - http://news.yahoo.com/s...
"Kill BinLaden" is a must read. If the tribes are still acting like the warlords did back then we won't be getting a lot of milage from them alone.
- Noah White
Facebook Ban on Breast-Feeding Photos Spark Protest - http://digg.com/tech_ne...
Massachusettes is in the process of passing a law to protect mothers rights to breast feed in public.
- Noah White
Jets fire head coach Eric Mangini - http://digg.com/footbal...
Mangenius should have stayed in NE. Weis will be the next one to get it next year. Belichick and his system are being proven through and through.
- Noah White
Fan who tackled Seau arraigned - http://www.boston.com/sports...
Gotta love Seau...
- Noah White
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