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The thing is, not all data is equal, and measuring the truth based on volume is almost certain to get you in trouble. - http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_b...
Thomas Brox Røst, Chuck Lawson, Sally Church and 2 other people liked this
Love this quote ... "The thing is, not all data is equal, and measuring the truth based on volume is almost certain to get you in trouble."
- joergkurtwegner
*Like* if you like the new Google Reader better
ocde.cn, Web20Critic, Richard Anderson and 135 other people liked this
I liked both because the new design is much sleeker and refined than the old one.
- Mattie Kenny
I must say I am liking the new look.
- (jeff)isageek
I can't decide
- Pinksy
Clean, simple, the Google trademarks. (It's also looking a lot like Zoho)
- Gary Burge
I think I prefer the new look, seems cleaner.
- Robert Nelson
Needs a few Greasemonkey tweaks but overall it's better.
- richrecruiter
looks cleaner but less usable to quickly scan things, due to the far lower contrast (no more blue highlight and menu background). Everything blends together on my screen. Will get used to it, i guess. The typography does not look harmonious, they ought to tweak font sizes and spacing a bit.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
too much white! I would have loved to see it go in a different direction.
- vijay
i got confused. i meant to like this one. looks cleaner for sure. i LOVE helvetireader script though. it kills
- Cee Bee
+1 for Helvetireader! Lots of space and clean to the max.
- vijay
I haven't seen the new gReader.. but you know what still looks gorgeous? Feedly. ;)
- Phil G
I don't like it yet. It feels sharp and poorly spaced. But I'll get used to it.
- Glen Turpin
I like it. If you were new to reader this would be an easier interface to use, IMO.
- Clay Newton
Me like, very sleek.
- Kol Tregaskes
pretty much the only reason i use google reader instead of another web service is that it used to be fast (not anymore) and the social feed websites integrate with it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
It's too early to tell, Sarah. It does look -- *brighter*
- Jorge Escobar
I like it, just hope a redesign means that they bring in themes.
- Zach Chisholm
Any idea how to decollapse the navigation pane back again? I don't say a way to undo the evil that I did.
- Todd Hoff
I was expecting something drastic so I'm a little disappointed. Seems like more of the same with a little cleanup. Nothing offensive and certainly no major changes that make it bad.
- Kenton
I'm inclined to say that the new Google Reader is much superior to the old GR.
- Jamelle
Love the feature upgrades, style is a little stark for me.
- Kamath (नमः)
Disagree. I was so used to the previous version. But that's because I live there.
- Louis Gray
I actually didn't like it when I signed in after getting home. Perhaps I was far too used to the previous look? It's practically always open in another tab. But I'm getting used to it, and it's not too bad..
- deepikaur
I like it, but I want to hide the "Friends shared items" from the sidebar. That's the one feature I don't use.
- Larry Hudson
Like, but I also want to see which blogs you put in the B, C, and D-list, Sarah. :)
- Matt Cutts
Looks sweet, but appears to show less articles on the screen at once.
- Mike Reynolds
like the new google reader and i like sarah too
- Zee.
Haven't seen it yet, as I use Feedly.
- Grant Bierman
I like that I can now find the "Add Subscription" button without scouring the left-hand pane for 5 minutes
- Craig Eddy
schweeet! ♥ it!
- AJ Batac
@Mark - very cool link. Thanks!
- Phil G
no like. I'm a change resistant old man
- Threepwood
It's seems much snappier!
- Pras Sarkar
Works for me. An improvement.
- Sean McBride
I think I can definitely get used to it.
- Deborah Fitchett
Oh I remember Google Reader. That thing I gave up around 7 months ago or so when FriendFeed came on the scene.
- Thomas Hawk
me like! :)
- matthew hunt
Some things are better. Two things I don't like is that the font size in the feed panel on the left seems to have doubled, and sometimes keyboard shortcuts don't work.
- Tanath
liek it, but it looks weird with Helvetireader now - and that was soooo nice... well, hope for a Helvetireader and Better GReader greasemonkey updates now.
- Peter Efland
eh
- Charlie Anzman
the shinyness has worn off and I want my old GR back now. [un-liked]
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
The item you're on doesn't dim when marked as read now either. :-/
- Tanath
Found this: http://friendfeed.com/e... (fix GReader with Greasemonkey/Stylish).
- Tanath
The script helps, but it has a downside too. When you mark an item as read with 'm' the highlighting goes away. Why can't anything be perfect? :P
- Tanath
loving most of it - especially the collapsing of stuff, but hoping for themes soon. having occasional problems with the keyboard shortcuts though :(
- siggimus
I miss the refresh button on the feed list.
- Dennis Hostetler
I did like the "mark all read" button on the old one, and did take some time to find the shift+a command to do the same
- clarke thomas
I'd suggest that anyone that needs a soundtrack for the next 30 hours to play lots of Warren Zevon. Start with "Lawyers, Guns and Money" - "Send lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan."
Chuck Lawson and Karoli liked this
I like that. booting it up now, keep those recommendations coming in. :)
- Karoli
Zevon's whole auctorial voice as a songwriter fits well for these days. He's smart-assed and cynical with an ember of hope that may yet fan back into a flame. He's politically astute and captures the feeling of being a cog in a larger machine well.
- Dave Slusher
Dear Client. Saying you meant to send a job earlier is not the same as sending a job earlier. Yes, needing it tomorrow by 7am = rush fee.
Chuck Lawson, Helen Sventitsky, Yolanda and 9 other people liked this
Oh honey- a 7am deadlline=rush+pain and suffering. Charge it up!
- Donna Mugavero
Get this: It was a site I needed to shoot, so I asked for plans. The plans finally came in at 4:17pm, I'm getting ready to head out the door, they call back to tell me the plans need to be revised. They'll *try* to send them before 8pm. I said, "You do realize I need sunlight." Silence. "So, you can't go shoot this around sunrise?" L. O. L.
- Admiral Anika
Are they the same folk as my clients?? Jeez Louise
- Sally Church
I'm really sick and tired of this client right now. A few months ago, they wanted me to shoot a site over the weekend. I said 1) that's my anniversary weekend and 2) I'll charge you twice the rush-fee if I'm forced to work a weekend. He backed off. That Sat. my phone rings at 7am. It's him, asking if I was going to shoot the site that day.
- Admiral Anika
Anika, learn to say no. Especially if they're stuffing you around like that. You're not a machine.
- Mo Kargas
Faboo Mama, maybe it's the client that needs ahem, shooting/training?
- Sally Church
What kind of work is this?
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad, I work in Telecom. Mo, I did say no, my only problem is my husband who tells me that I'm mean & since we're broke we should just do the work and eat the rush fees. But that creates habit from the client. He just wants/needs to be like, I'm don't care about being liked, I just want to get paid and get the work done.
- Admiral Anika
Situations like this you can do the work and charge rush fees, but make that clear up front or it will be come a habit and you will will resent him for it
- Sally Church
Yes, Sally. We give them a proposal with the details including a rush fee if need be before we start the work. The rush fee is even on our order form! Amazing they still act like it's a shock. And among our competitors our rush fee is the lowest AND covers a longer time.
- Admiral Anika
Anika, good for you. Seriously. You go girl!
- Sally Church
My Sincere Apologies [Pic] - http://www.thelstalk.com/my-sinc...
Chuck Lawson, William Harryman, Tanath and 15 other people liked this
Over the past months I have forwarded funny pictures and jokes to friends who I thought shared the same sense of humour. Unfortunately this wasn’t the case and I seem to have upset quite a few people who have accused me of being sexist and shallow. If you were one of these people, please accept my humblest apologies. From now on I will only send emails with a cultural or educational content such as old monuments, nature and other interesting structures. Below you’ll see a picture of the Pont Neuf Bridge in Paris. For those of you who are interested, Pont Neuf is the oldest bridge in Paris and took 26 years to build. Construction began in 1578 and ended in 1604. ‘Le Pont Neuf’ is actually made of 2 independent bridges, one with seven arches and the other with five arches. Fascinating
- AJ Batac
from Bookmarklet
hahahahah AJ, what a lovely bridge :)
- Toby Graham
Always a fan of proper bridge supports...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I think you win the Internets today.
- Mistletoe Glen
i wonder what variety of flowers those are
- Cee Bee
Lindsey, it's not porn. It's appreciation of fascinating bridges. :D
- AJ Batac
haha...I got this from a friend one time. Still great!
- JA Castillo
Ahh, France.
- Steven Perez
Theres a bridge in that picture?
- Santa CW™
What bridge? I just see a big crack...is this like one of those 3D things where I have to cross my eyes?
- Josh
lol
- Brandy Lea
North Pole too icy now to mention - http://blogs.news.com.au/heralds...
Chuck Lawson, Morton Fox, Zee. and 5 other people liked this
Santa. :(
- Mona Nomura
Rudolph :(
- Mo Kargas
It'll probably get just as much coverage as when NASA recorded the hole in the ozone above the pole closing up for a year or two.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
first rule of north pole icy amount club, don't mention north pole icy amount club
- Morgan Haley
Too bad +9% is pissing in the wind compared to how far below the 1979-2000 average we are.
- Victor Ganata
It's not permafrost, it's ice, it will go away in winter.
- Jonathan Ferguson
Good ol' Andrew Bolt, As loopy and lacking in substance as ever.
- Richard Crocker
Bill O'Reilly Freaks Out Off Camera - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Joel Franusic, Ray Grieselhuber, Franz Kratochvil and 33 other people liked this
Ahahahahahah...*inhale*...hahahahahaha.... :-)
- cmiper
Muhahaha :D
- Marius Quadflieg
Where did *THAT* come from? (and: what is it?)
- Alex von Halem
Removed due to copyright. Oh well.
- Bwana ☠
Removed due to insanity, more like. Glad I was on FF and got to see it b4 it was removed. Actually: I'm not sure I should be so glad. Some things are better kept under the rug.
- Alex von Halem
That was great
- Lee Stranahan
from Alert Thingy
Another copy here... http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- cmiper
They are taking them down as soon as a new copy goes up. Try here, maybe NSFW ads. http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1...
- cmiper
love it!
- sixbit
Ok, that was pretty funny. Pure frustration.
- Bwana ☠
Gawker has re-posted the video http://gawker.com/5008668...
- Scott Beale
That was great. (thanks for the link Scott)
- Alejandro
Also see: http://www.npr.org/yourtur...
- Atul Arora
Is this hosted somewhere else?
- Steve Lynch
It's on the College Humor site still... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1...
- cmiper
Goes to show: you can't remove something from the internet. If you act like a douche in front of a camera, you're going to have to live with it. Thanks for the laughs, Bill.
- ben bloch
Really. What a douche.
- Alex von Halem
here is an active link http://view.break.com/501946
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
If Facebook had done its job right FriendFeed would never have happened.
Ralph Poole, Igor The Troll יִצְחָק, Ashton and 65 other people liked this
The best thing about FriendFeed, besides that it's so much fun, is that it forces Facebook, Twitter, Flickr, etc. to make their services better. Twitter should have added hide a long time ago. Flickr should have shown you more than the last 5 contacts photos. Competition is a beautiful thing.
- Thomas Hawk
@Scoble So true. @Thomas Twitter needs to figure out how to scale before they add any new features.
- Jon Gosier
Yes competition - but more so: open communication - is truly a wonderful thing. Developments here at FF and twitter with respective apps like twhirl, AlertThingy etc. just go to show how quickly last years fad can become extinct (facebook?). Of course it would be even better to find fb add something truly novel.
- Alex von Halem
Early adopters may have moved on but the herd continues to graze like cattle on the hillside at Facebook, MySpace, etc. Eventually, they will learn about other forms of social media and move there, but by then there will be something new that the fleet-footed have mooooved onto while the slow stampede contiues ruminating.
- Phil Boiarski
I think it's quite possible that friendfeed has totally superior DNA. If I were to bet on facebook vs friendfeed now, I'd bet on friendfeed, even with facebook's huge headstart. Because, if Altavista would have done it's job right, Google would have never happened...
- Meryn Stol
It's like a great brainstorming session where people build on each other's ideas to get to the best solution. So I think it's less about FB doing a better job, then fresh blood building upon the ideas to make the better solution.
- Jane Quigley
from Alert Thingy
I think it's all an evolutionary process, the good thing is anyway that the idea spreads. Facebook could save some money though and implement open standards right now. They have to in the end anyway. FB won't be a working Passport or anything like that.
- Christian Scholz
from twhirl
I think the "secret" force behind friendfeed's succes will be the discussion of the tech bloggers here. It looks like unintended crowdsourcing. There are so many feature (and strategy) suggestions flying by. I think some people *want* friendfeed to win, and friendfeed provides a way to let those people help them. It's gonna be a powerful combination. The only question is if they can hire good programmers fast enough to keep up.
- Meryn Stol
Still get to the bottom of FriendFeed, but liking it more and more every time
- David Orban
Same here @David, @Meryn I like your perspective and also your terminology 'crowdsourcing' more like crowd surfing!
- Joe Dawson
For all who don't know, crowdsourcing is quite common jargon. It's what Starbucks (MyStarbucksIdea) and Dell (Ideastorm) are doing. This will beat the crap out of companies who don't.
- Meryn Stol
If IBM had done its job right Microsoft would never have happened. etc
- Stuart Woodward
great observation about crowdsourcing meryn, friendfeed seems very interested in hearing what people have to say
- Chris Jones
from twhirl
I don't use facebook anymore, I just pipe my friendfeed stream back into facebook
- Mark Ramsey
from twhirl
Im going to go on record here with a prediction for the future: Facebook is the greatest hyperbole the web has ever seen. I know it's worth a lot because so many investors put so much money into it, but Im expecting it to earn the title for "Most Inflated Value Ever".
- Andrew Baron
@Mark Ramsey, I do the exact same thing
- Chris Jones
from twhirl
BTW, if George Bush had done his job right, everything would be worth at least twice as much.
- Andrew Baron
tut tut ...forgive n forget was what my mum always told me.
- viki saigal
I think Facebook and Friendfeed cater to different purposes. FF is great for sharing ideas while Facebook is good for maintaining profiles and contacts.
- Vishy
FriendFeed brings the "NewsFeed/Mini-Feed" out of Facebook. Most of my friends are not on Facebook, so this is great! I can give people links to interesting articles/photos/discussions on FriendFeed. Signing up for Facebook overwhelms many of my friends. It's too complicated to set up an account.
- Mitchell Tsai
Facebook was never useful for this. Way too heavy.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
this is exactly right. A while ago I had an idea similar to FriendFeed and Pete Cashmore told me, nah, Facebook is already doing it. As it turned out, Facebook had the chance but didn't capitalize on it.
- Stan Schroeder
from twhirl
i could be wrong, but I don't think Facebook is (a) losing users to FF, or (b) incapable of making this a reality for the masses
- Jeremy Toeman
FriendFeed is much more about content. Content and insight defines the "friends" I pick, whereas Facebook has a greater social context. I would not follow by nieces tweets in FriendFeed, but she would be on my list of "friends" in facebook.
- Ralph Poole
from twhirl
If FF added better mobile access and posting a nice real client, i'd have less and less reason to use Twitter. None at all actually
- Michael Gartenberg
Ralph, I agree wholehearted facebook is a different beast all together. A different beast that thankfully doesn't have a zombie game or super wall :)
- Doug Brooks
Not sure I agree about Facebook. It was built for college kids, not for people looking for useful information.
- Mike Reynolds
Of course Facebook and FriendFeed both serve different purposes. It's also entirely possible to use both. I think we'll have to observe what services suffer due to FriendFeed in order to see what competes with FriendFeed.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
not everyone is capable of flyfishing in the river of posts that is friendfeed. some folks just want to go out and get sushi with their friends, and then get back to their lives. facebook is for them.
- Chris Hollander
But that would break facebook's business model - collect the data we input and sell it back to us....
- Robert O'Callaghan
friendfeed is way better and way simpler than facebook. Andit's app, poke and zombie free. Damn brilliant if you ask me.
- DC Crowley
@Mike R "It was built for college kids, not for people looking for useful information." Funny!
- Jack Baty
Don't think so. FF is a different site built on a different premise. Its lighter and more agile while being very powerful. Facebook is way more profile centred while FF is more like Google Reader on Steroids.
- Roberto Bonini
Bloggers, please: credit your sources with a via link. Karma is a boomerang.
Konstantin Klein, kosmar, acedanger and 10 other people liked this
truer words were never spoken, Gina
- mathew ingram
Linking is a powerful thing. As for "via", that's not enough. Clear linking is the best policy.
- Louis Gray
what Louis said
- mathew ingram
Tell that to Scoble. ;)
- David Risley
lol@David ..yeah it was sort of indirect wasn't it :P
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Exactly. We always appreciate your links. I drum that into #b5media bloggers heads'. Link, link, link. Give credit where due.
- Tris Hussey
I agree with Louis. via is minimal. Direct attribution in the blog post is best and strongest.
- lilbyrdie
I want my "super-like" now! :)
- Marcel Weiß
The Business of XKCD - http://normalkid.com/2008...
Ashton, Adewale Oshineye, Amund Tveit and 13 other people liked this
Can I like my own share? :-) This was a good story. I'm glad XKCD is doing so well.
- Louis Gray
*boggle*
- Adam Seever
"Sudo make me a sandwich"
- Zak K.
inspiring ( http://tinyurl.com/6oqdjx )
- Amund Tveit
FriendFeed + Google Reader Are One - http://louisgray.com/graphic...
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HealingBrush, Caleb Elston, Dani Radu and 23 other people liked this
It is a beautiful thing.
- Louis Gray
mmm...tasty 2.0-ness
- Jacob Nahin
nice mockup
- Duncan Riley
from twhirl
What? How? Who? When? Photoshop?
- Matt Hooper
Not a mockup. :-)
- Louis Gray
Give up the goods, pimp! I gots to have that sweet setup. Share :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Greasemonkey?
- Tanath
dont be a tease, if it's not a mockup, share!!!! :-)
- Duncan Riley
Not greasemonkey
- Louis Gray
LOL... nice screenshot. ;)
- Matt Shaulis
So Matt, care to tell them how this works?
- Louis Gray
Que es?
- Hutch Carpenter
Three hairs from a wild boar mixed with a frog's eye and some dragon blood. Mixed in a cauldron... brought to the highest peak of the widest mountain... oh wait.. it's not all the magical at all, is it?
- Matt Shaulis
I'm confused. What do you want, Michael? It's Google Reader with the Friendfeed header. I took this as a snarky commentary to the amount of Google Readerness on Friendfeed. I'm missing a joke, aren't I? I do that all time time. Damn.
- Mark Trapp
As a sidenote: what a pain in the ass it is to add people's shared feeds to your google reader account. Why do I have to have a gmail account and add people from there?
- Mark Trapp
Mark, it's not a joke. It's a bookmarklet that puts Google Reader into FriendFeed. More details soon.
- Louis Gray
1) Google Domain or 2) a theme for google reader ? (DOH!! Louis gave the answer while I was typing)
- martin english
Louis, thanks for the clarification. I'm not getting it; anxiously awaiting deets.
- Mark Trapp
excellent mashup! I can haz copy of UR kode?
- Susan Beebe
That sounds quite awesome. As another sidenote: anyone know of a bookmarklet or something to add feeds directly to Google Reader?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
@Rahsheen you can get that through Toluu, I'm pretty sure.
- Matt Shaulis
Rahsheen: http://googlereader.blogspot.com/2008...
- Mark Trapp
nice hack!
- Wil
Your Google reader looks broken. It doesn't say (1000+) :)
- Andrew Smith
@Rahsheen: If you use Firefox, there's usually a feed icon (orange radar-type thing) in the address bar you can click. Firefox should offer to let you add it to Google Reader or iGoogle. I think there's a setting somewhere if it doesn't...
- Tanath
Ah! I did notice that today. Thanks, Tanath! I'll give that a shot.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Here's how it works. http://tinyurl.com/4ps9qs Thanks to Matt Shaulis (Sign up to him on FriendFeed and @mattshaulis on Twitter) Great guy on a strong Shyftr team.
- Louis Gray
That's actually pretty cool. Nice quick way to check your Greader account from Friendfeed. Neat!
- Mark Trapp
Reading: "Web Worker Daily » Archive 6 Resources for Free Images «" ( http://webworkerdaily.com/2008... )
Noah Carter, Chuck Lawson, Kevin Bondelli and Sarah Perez liked this
If this is the age of the nerd, why aren't there any science bars? I wan mix your own chemistry experiment drinks and TV's tuned to the Discovery channel, please and thank you very much.
Emily Miller, Alex Power, Shannon Jiménez and 9 other people liked this
you should do it!
- edythe
Well, a lot of us nerds don't drink or don't drink that much anymore. Too busy building robot girlfriends since the real once won't flirt with us.
- RAPatton
You've never heard of BarCamp, I guess. That's a "bar" for nerds.
- Robert Scoble
Will you please move back to ATL before opening this bar? I promise to get hammered there as often as possible :)
- Joel Webber
Robert Scoble, that you would even mention BarCamp is soo nerdy!
- edythe
erica, i'm telling you, i think it's a winner. write up a business plan.
- edythe
these are fun: http://www.sciencecafes.org/
- hisherness
Not really a bar, but I'm a fan of the Linux Caffe in Toronto -- good coffee, good eats, good art, and they'll toss you an Ubuntu CD if you need one.
- Trent Olson
who needs a bar when you have FF for all you need. I don't drink and drive, so there is no use for me to go to bar!!...via feedalizr
- Paul
We have a bar called "Science Bar" in DC
- Andrew Feinberg
"Hey baby, photosynthesize often?" Oops, can't believe I just planted that there :P
- Adam Lasnik
hee. photosynthesize. obscene!
- edythe
@edythe If I knew anything about running a business or writing a business plan, I would.
- EricaJoy
it's also the age of self-instruction. go for it.
- hisherness
Touchscreen BlackBerry "Thunder" Due by September - http://gizmodo.com/391226...
Chuck Lawson, Kevin Bondelli, Denis and 5 other people liked this
I am waiting for thunder to upgrade my Curve
- Tim FitzGerald
I can't wait!
- Sarah Austin
I'm stoked... the only thing is whether we can use the BB way of typing or if I get stuck with the iPhone way of typing.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
from twhirl
so much for my cool BB Curve... there goes my cool factor ...dang it!
- Susan Beebe
"exclusive to Verizon Wireless" Blah!
- Czar
so 'rooms' are fun - but here's a wishlist item - what about if they allow people to host them on their own domains?
Chuck Lawson liked this
Test reveals: highest IQs use Firefox on MacPPC, lowest use Firefox on Win98 - http://www.boingboing.net/2008...
Chuck Lawson, Nikpay, Paul Grav and 4 other people liked this
i use firefox on Win Vista!
- MrWill
I would think that Firefox with 1000+ extensions installed running on UNIX would be the highest IQ group. :D
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
i think this is, at best a good conversation starter. there have got to be factors that better correspond with browser choice. would we all be talking about it if the survey compared browser choice to length of some body part - feet, for example?
- marty nickel
from twhirl
xkcd - Making Hash Browns - http://xkcd.com/421/
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Kyle Weller, lilbyrdie, Kenichi Matsumoto and 47 other people liked this
I love how FriendFeed shows the image inline. Very nice
- Bartek Ciszkowski
The mouse-over text isn't right though...
- Laurence Gonsalves
Yeah, that's one of xkcd's "things", You should click thru to the site to see the mouseover. I only discovered them after I'd been reading xkcd for a few weeks (how slow am I, lol) and it brought a whole new level of understanding to the whole thing for me.
- Slappy Line
WOoOW!
- Maryam Ardakani
always loved xkcd!
- Selma
Love XKCD. Hate FF breaking the mouseover.
- James Polley
... breaking the mouseover makes you click through to xkcd though... right... I mean otherwise you'd miss the hidden message!
- Ross Miller
بچههاي فرندفيد: اقايون/خانوما. بياين حال اين خارجكيها رو بگيريم و تو اين كامنتدوني شروع كنيم در مورد اين تصوير كامنت بگذاريم.لطفا نظرتون رو در مورد اين تصوير بگين
- mhmazidi
ترجمه کامنت قبلیم: واو! سمایلی مگه ما سادیسم داریم؟! :دی
- Maryam Ardakani
@mhmazidi اتفاقا این وب سایت رو خیلی وقته که دنبال می کنم...کمیک های خیلی خیلی جالبی داره...فقط یک کمی سنگینه و گیکیه به قول خودمون ...چیز جالبیه بهش سر بزنید گاهی ... (اسمایلی این هم سهم من در کامنت فارسی) ه
- Selma
it would be nice if friendfreed could perform some basic translation if the user set it that way ;)
- Hernan Garcia
from twhirl
Ich "mag" Hernans Kommentar. [Translation: I "like" Hernan's comment.]
- Philipp Lenssen
hehe ...i think we have managed to provoke some curiosity :D
- Selma
haha, you're totally right @Selma
- Hernan Garcia
from twhirl
new methods in cooking
- atalmatal
Is there any decent automated Farsi <-> English translation system available on the web?
- Jim Norris
I believe that's Farsi, not Arabic?
- ⓞnor
Yes it is Farsi (Persian) language ...and no ...as a professional translator I have not seen any efficient automated translation system for it yet (some students here are working on that), especially since the lines here are written in a broken informal style which makes it even more difficult to convert.
- Selma
Selma, care to comment on the general jist of the conversation that took place in this thread?
- Mark Trapp
Oh lol…definitely... sorry! Dr. Mazidi just commented there to share the picture with the Persian Friendfeed users as well as letting the English users know we do need a translating system ;) … I commented on the fact that I have been regularly following xkcd (I'm not a geek…it's just a phase that I'm going through :D) and advised others to do so as well… Navid was wondering why we were...
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- Selma
I love this!! Thanks Bret!! who created this? too cool!
- Susan Beebe
down with xkcd
- niniane
I see what you did there, niniane.
- Slappy Line
Haha, thaks Selma. I was wondering what was going on :)
- Mark Trapp
Am I the only one who finds it annoying that this story is constantly being pushed up due to comments? I understand the point, but I've seen this on my FriendFeed every day for the past week and a half
- Bartek Ciszkowski
bart: my subconscious had the exact same reaction. I love xkcd but I was getting sick of this one. I guess it's time to start using the hide function.
- Alex von Halem
Bart, hide feature, I believe you two haven't met. I'll leave you two to get acquainted.
- Mark Trapp
@Mark Good point ;) I totally forgot about it
- Bartek Ciszkowski
I just unfollowed ten of my chattiest friends on Twitter. I still love you, but you were Scoble-ing out everyone else I know.
JeepnDave, Chuck Lawson, Leonard and 3 other people liked this
some say the solution is to "add more friends" - of course, this potentially increases the noise
- Ontario Emperor
Maybe Twitter needs a keyword filter, or (better yet) tagging. People could subscribe to tags of feeds and get less noise.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
I found it easier to use tweetscan for some words. I follow when I want to comment
- MaryAnn Chick Whiteside
The absolute lack of syncing between my own blog comments and Disqus is the #1 reason I can't / won't use it. Sorry. *shrug*
Chuck Lawson, Sally Church, Shey, Jamaican of FF and 2 other people liked this
Yup. That's a huge reason why I'm trying Intense Debate right now. I imported all my old blog comments easily AND can export. I think it's madness that you have to truncate all that history.
- Bwana ☠
That's what kept me away -- I've got five years of comments I don't want to give up. Maybe I should look at Intense Debate too?
- Chuck Lawson
MSI Wind becomes the $400 subnotebook to beat - http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008...
Chuck Lawson liked this
This just got a lot more interesting than the yet-to-come Atom version of the Asus Eee PC.
- Josh Bancroft
FriendFeed is back up. - http://friendfeed.com/
Voyagerfan5761, timepilot, Ian Rathbone and 16 other people liked this
What happened?
- Ionut
Server troubles. We're still investigating exactly what triggered it.
- Paul Buchheit
I reckon it was a case of Murphy's law's third addendum: "If something cannot possibly go wrong, and it is the weekend, that thing will go wrong.". I propose a revision - Murphy's law's third addendum as applied to startups - "If it is the weekend, and everything is working, nothing will go wrong, but it will still cause a system outage."
- Slappy Line
i had a problem this morning where ff was taking ages to load the "Comment - Hide - More" panel but it seems to have gone now
- Ian Rathbone
I effen love how Friendfeed Digg entries link directly to the story and not to the Digg link. That's my biggest complaint against Techmeme and the like. Too many extra clicks to get to the meat. These Friendfeed guys are doing everything right! Summize too!
Tim FitzGerald, Varun Mahajan, Chuck Lawson and 8 other people liked this
I didn't like this "feature". I'd rather see the Digg link first and see the context; e.g. how's the Digg community liking the article. Ideally, we could get BOTH links (1) direct to article (2) digg link
- Mitchell Tsai
Yeah. Links to both would be best.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Agreed, If I read a story I want to be able to digg it without hunting it down on their site.
- Stepan Mazurov
So it's okay that FriendFeed owns a conversation, but not okay for Digg to? There's still a lot of conversation on Digg. If FF's fragmentation is okay, and revered, why not Digg's?
- Cyndy
Techmeme's RSS feed has both links. Twitter only gives you 140 chars, so I chose Techmeme permalinks over story links because the former permits access to the second, but not the other way around. (And both have value.)
- Gabe Rivera
Making a Business From Social Media - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Mitchell Tsai, Iain Baker, Chuck Lawson and 7 other people liked this
I'm curious if people will actually treat FF as a destination site, or just dump their feeds here and never look back. This post will probably only see a few comments here. Hmmmm. Anyway, happy tuesday, everyone. :)
Bernie Goldbach, Chuck Lawson, Schlomo Rabinowitz and 4 other people liked this
BTW, if you comment on flickr photos here, you aren't part of the conversation at flickr. Same with my blog. We should just close comments everywhere, huh? Social media is so freaking inconsiderate. Maybe big media is on to something with that publisher/consumer model. Sayin'.
- Eric Rice
I just saw this message randomly. I visit FriendFeed once every other week. So I guess that tells you something. I basically put my feeds up because, if other people want to follow me here, I see no reason not to let them. (also because I was curious, I guess) So far social media strikes me as particularly self-oriented. Conversation? What conversation?
- Richard Moriarty
I love your "old media's got some things right" riff lately - hilarious
- Scott Breakall
Thanks Scott, I wish it wasn't so depressing though. Heh.
- Eric Rice
blah blah blah blah comment comment comment. ;-) actually i check it at least once a day, usually more like 4 times.
- Call me Bronco
I'm spending more time on friendfeed lately because I've been working behind a corporate firewall that blocks twitter.
- Rob Safuto
@rob until FF is blocked heh.
- Eric Rice
Eric, this is much different than something like Pownce, (where I do just dump all my feeds). This is evolving conversations.
- tagami
@eric indeed. My backup is an ipod touch that can pick up twitter via hahlo.com.
- Rob Safuto
@ted IF it is used as such. Like Twitter, it kinda got ganked into a chat room by some (me included). It's VERY easy to import crap here (inline,like jaiku) and never come back. Also, look at how scattered and dysfunctional all the commenting is now. You can comment here on a blog post (cuz i pipe it in), but guess what? You aren't part of my blog's convosphere. That's why I'm pondering if this is a dumphole. The only reason this conversation exists here is because I'm forcing it to start here, as a test.
- Eric Rice
I was thinking something similar to Eric earlier. If I reply to a Tweet here, does it use the Twitter API and the fact I have authenticated my Twitter account to turn that into a proper Twitter reply? And what about threaded replies?
- David Owens
Nothing wrong with having a separate community. If they don't see your reply, fine. Someone else will, and you can discuss it with them as well as others. If you must have that functionality, then SocialThing is your best bet. Some people don't want to have a separate discussion outside of the original realm. In that case, FriendFeed is not for you. For me, I actually enjoy it.
- Bwana ☠
Eric, is it such a bad thing to have many different conversations happening, out of view of the original creator of the content? I'm starting to think that the notion of one big comment thread for all to see is feeling very outdated.
- Mike Doeff
@mike not a bad thing per se, but it increases the time we spend finding all the conversation (IF the tools are easy enough to use to do this for us). It has a bit of disorganization vibe to it. @bwana yeah I agree, I have many communities that don't even touch things like twitter etc. But I think that's a context/topic reason, not a scattered workflow one :)
- Eric Rice
@david social thing is working on that where you can reply from one place to all.
- Eric Rice
I'm curious if you would have gotten more feedback on this on Twitter or your blog in the same time period.
- Bwana ☠
@bwana blog no, twitter maybe. This is a FriendFeed exclusive conversation. And if I had done it on Twitter, I'd have two places to follow the conversation, Twitter, here, and also Jaiku since I think it ports there. I *never* check Jaiku anymore at all. A comment there is like a comment to the wind.
- Eric Rice
I listen on a number of info streams and just respond where I saw the item - but yes, the tipping point for me will be the first site that cleanly implements oauth. then I will be able to have only one active read stream and it will handle the writes as I don't think I will ever have all my friends on a single site.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
interesting. yeah. like this. maybe... thanks, eric.
- Barbara K. Baker
No but i do not check it as often -- maybe using this as twitter + client hmmm...
- John Anthony Hartman
I'd like to integrate it with my Main Blog eventually, but I'm a n00b atm. So far, I just need time to set it up, after that I think I actually will use the app. its kind of like onXiam but more interactive. TY for turning me on to it Spin!
- TheDiva Rockin
@bwana actually to reply again to your question, maybe more feedback, but as meaningful and coherent? hmmmm.
- Eric Rice
@thediva the other way to use this is to totally import feeds and leave. For Consumers Only. And consumer-onlys are important, too. :)
- Eric Rice
@eric First off, the comments here aren't limited to 140 chars which is nice. Second, it's Pownce-like. I like Pownce because you can post a subject and have people reply to it, just like here. However, FF seems to read in your feeds whereas Pownce doesn't. SocialThing (which is down at the moment) seems to do more because you can talk directly to the services with your login/password. It'll be interesting to see how this all shakes out. EDIT: Apparently putting a newline in a comment doesn't work :P
- Michael Gaines
@eric hmm....so comments are limited in size. The last thing I was going to say is that I dont' like the layout of FF. It needs work to organize everything better.
- Michael Gaines
There is a weird stigma about turning off comments, because DIY social type media is "so democratized". Turning off comments is often perceived as anti-(that hustle). At least, thats what "they" tell me. Marinate.
- DYKC?™
@dykc yeah I'm not buying that 'no comments/yes comments' hype anymore. It's your site, do what you want. If you aren't plagued by spam or idiots, already. We see what digg.com and YouTube brought us with the 'democracy'. More like anarchy.
- Eric Rice
I personally don't really like forking the conversation. For the moment, I've dumped all my stuff in FriendFeed, connected to friends, but other than that, not using it. (yet?)
- Stephanie Booth
thanks eric, opening up friend feed to me in a way i never knew possible.. jeez that sounds contradicting, not meant to be..
- danny payne
Pretty interesting how the @ symbol has made it's way over to commenting in friendfeed. Shows the strong influence Twitter has had on people. It would be nice to have @'s pushed back to twitter if that's at all possible.
- Rob Safuto
Rob, I think it's more of an irc thing. A flat conversation style needs a name preceeding a statement to create context. Twitter kind of got that from irc imho.
- Bwana ☠
I'm still not sure about services like Friendfeed and Socialthing... I already get most of the info from their blogs/facebooks/twitter-->and then it gets circular...I do like Socialthing on my iPhone though; I've been using that lately. Will probably end abrubtly.
- Schlomo Rabinowitz
Thanks for clarifying Bwana. I'm not familiar with the irc etiquette.
- Rob Safuto
I'm loving this backlash on social media and re-embracing of the old virtues of old media : )
- Prokofy Neva
Threaded commenting in FriendFeed is the glue many socnets need.
- Bernie Goldbach
Okay - all set up! Mind you I did not connect my Pownce or Jaiku seeing how they are just echoing my Twitters. So, I guess I'm done here. :)
- TheDiva Rockin
Yep, I've been using FF for some time now... love it. nice, simple 1 spot for most real-time social activity feeds. :-) pretty cool.
- Susan Beebe
21 Accents - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Daniel Shaw, Nikpay, Evan Parker and 5 other people liked this
Hey FriendFeeders, I was going to favorite this video on YouTube, but realized that then there would be a third copy of this in the feed for the folks who are friends with Bay, Kevin, and me. Are y'all working on a way to aggregate links to the same content, or should I get used to redundancy? ;-)
- Keith Pelczarski
We are working on it, I promise! Seriously, my name is next to it on the whiteboard :)
- Bret Taylor
Ah, the redundancy question. I've been wondering about that myself.
- Richard Hemmer
@Bret: Do you guys have a whiteboard like the one we've seen pictures of at Google?
- Voyagerfan5761
I felt the same pressure to *not* favorite this video, for the same reason, but then decided that FriendFeed does not control me. In soviet russia I control friendfeed.
- Bay Chang
Her "Toronto" accent isn't right. The accent she used is more typical of the maritime provinces or maybe the prairie provinces. A Toronto accent is actually closer to the Seattle accent than it is to that.
- Laurence Gonsalves
Partially agree about "Toronto" - my first 24 years were spent there and I think I sound more like her Seattle one. But my sister is closer to her "Toronto" one.
- Howard Trickey
How Do You Use It? : FriendFeed - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Chuck Lawson and Bret Taylor liked this
To answer your question: I primarily use the web site and email summary. If I am "connected" (e.g., at the office or around my laptop at home), I find the web interface optimized for what it does and most efficient. The email summaries are a great way to keep up to date when I am not constantly connected.
- Bret Taylor
Thanks for the comment, Brett. Would you mind if I reposted it in the comments so they stay connected to the actual post? http://www.everydayux.com/2008...
- Alex Rainert
And for us forward thinking types, How I want to use it http://lifestreamblog.com/a-lifes...
- Mark Krynsky
How will Friendfeed deal with duplicates?
iAdramelk, Chuck Lawson, Junyu and 32 other people liked this
I'm seeing the same stories over in over (e.g. Story X shared in Google Reader by one contact, linked directly by another, and so on), spread into separated discussions. Just merging dupes seems not easily possible as everyone has different threads subscribed to depending on their selection of friends. It also makes you wonder on which of the many threads you want to add a comment if you want to share your view on Story X.
- Philipp Lenssen
We're definitely thinking about the right way to handle this.
- Paul Buchheit
Threading seems to be the most complex feature of this site, but it's being handled very well thus far.
- Patrick Veverka
Umm …what threading?
- John Lam
Well, in blogsphere, people use trackbacks to gather all comments together into the original post. Maybe it will also considerable to solve this overload duplicated content problem.
- Yuancheng
The issue isn't duplication but seeing the pile-on as memetracking. Friendfeed should have a way to view based on this kind of convergence. If five of my friends are writing about (or just linking to) the same thing, I would like to know.
- Stowe Boyd
"If five of my friends are writing about (or just linking to) the same thing, I would like to know." And then how can you comment on the meme/ story? Because you have potentially five different comment threads (which seemingly can't be easily merged either -- you can merge the story, of course, but these five threads are personal to you, others may have different combos).
- Philipp Lenssen
Tabs? :)
- ⓞnor
It's so tempting to want to repost this as "How will Friendfeed deal with duplicates?”, but I wouldn't do that. Nah.
- Louis Gray
Heh.
- Philipp Lenssen
Also, what about duplicates within my own feed... Lets say I find something good in google reader, share it, stumble it, digg it, twitter it, and a couple other new verb its... that seems like a more manageable thing to reduce to just one item (such as Nathan Dugg, Shared, Stumbled and whatevered "this story" instead of reporting it 6 times.
- Nathan Manley
Philipp, Newsvine has a neat feature, mostly unused. It lets readers break comments out into specific groups and among friends, away from the main comment thread. …and yes, @e3r, it uses tabs to do it. @NathanManley, i agree wholeheartedly.
- John Lam
@Nathan, John: Reduction++ for me. I see the same story reported over and over in my feed. It will probably have to be based on the URL of the story (rather than the Stumble page or the Digg page or whatever), but I think that's already available so it shouldn't be a problem. Perhaps in the case of multiple friends sharing the same link, condensing those would also be useful...
- Voyagerfan5761
@Voyager... Yea, it seems that most of those services you should be able to get the URL of the originating story from...of course if friendfeed is scraping the info from the different sites it would almost have to wait to publish it to your feed to see where else you put it (and how long should it wait?).
- Nathan Manley
@Nathan: I don't think it should wait. If you do something on another site with the same URL, it should just update the one story. So "Voyagerfan5761 Rated "Blah" on StumbleUpon" could become "Voyagerfan5761 Rated "Blah" on StumbleUpon and Dugg it on Digg". See where that's going? I'm sure Kevin, Paul, and the rest of the FF team would have a better way to do it, but... Yeah.
- Voyagerfan5761
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