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"You may have noticed that this blog now has a mobile version for the iPhone and iPod Touch. You may also have noticed that there is a second mobile format for all other smart phones, too. Thanks to the ease-of-use of Wordpress, you can make your blog mobile compliant in about five minutes and without writing one line of code. Nice!!"
- Oğuz Serdar
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Old FF UI vs New FF UI
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ROFLMAO!
- vijay
EXACTLY!
- AJ Batac
LMAO!!!
- BEX
++++
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Posterized. Awesome
- Bwana ☠
that was fast!
- Rahul Das
LOL! Pegged it!
- Her Lindsay-ness
this is so funny yet so true!
- Gerald Neo
BRILLIANT.
- Zee.
fast :))))) fast and furious :))))
- Viva Vida
too much vavavooooom :)
- Myriam
Short sited, ignorant, and perpetuates a falsehood - but the premise is hilarious and I laughed.
- Matthew DeVries
MEGA LOL
- Olivier
Thanks for making me laugh so hard that people at work now know I use FF at work! LOL!
- Dean "Karnatos" Michaud
LOL!
- Dee S.
hhahahaha!
- Susan Beebe
HAHAHAH
- mjc
ROFLMAO
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I still have the old UI.
- Richard A.
@Richard just go to beta.friendfeed.com
- Alfredo
love it ,,,, Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
- johnpiercy
LMAO!
- Altuğ `αℓƒσ¢υѕ´ Orgun
It is posts like this that require a favorite function.
- Rob Diana
Rob - so true!
- Susan Beebe
This is so funnyyY!
- Jorge Escobar
that was great :)
- Alp
sweet
- mike "glemak" dunn
LMAO. Awesome illustration!!
- Praveen Vasudev
PMSL
- Tatty Gibson
LOL!
- JazJaz
rofl.
- Alp
This is great. lol
- Kevin Whalen
lmao! :)
- Mathew A. Koeneker
LOL
- Moses Kpetigo
Is FriendFeed Beta Too Fast?
- Alfredo
This made our office laugh out loud :)
- Bret Taylor
hahaha
- Alfredo
Wear it proudly :) The future will be going at Wall-E pace...
- Christopher Galtenberg
the picture might be construed as being somewhat ambiguous ... I mean, where is the pleasure of it all ?
- Petr Buben
is friendfeed still fast for you? i want it to keep up with me :)
- Alfredo
I'm hitting f5 more then anything. Its not fast enough for me to keep up.
- CW™
yup..that's how it's been.... :)
- Rohit
We just launched an update to http://beta.friendfeed.com/ that brings back "Reshare" and also makes the perma-link more obvious. The links appear when your mouseover an entry. Let us know what you think.
Juvenn Woo, Mike Elliott, Molly and 175 other people liked this
There's a bit of a pause in Safari 4 Beta (Webkit) but other than that, it's great.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The pause (about 100ms) is intentional so that they don't appear when the mouse is just passing over an entry on the way to get somewhere else.
- Paul Buchheit
amazing! You folks are an example of how internet solutions should be done...Quickly, cooperatively and in real-time
- Tweet Feeds
Wouldn't mind seeing the hover links appear underneath the user icon rather than on the opposite side of the column.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Paul, gotcha. Makes sense.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Nice.
- Cristo
And "To:" In the Bookmarklett!!!
- Ken Sheppardson
thanks!
- Jay
Just tried it - slick!
- Martha
Excellento
- Chris Loft
I was wondering where that went.
- Michael Fidler
I don't think the 100ms pause helps, it makes it feel slow IMO. Other than that, much improved.
- Eric Florenzano
Mama's not happy. http://beta.friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Anika
I like it. Any chance of seeing the changes seen in the reshare box in the general purpose bookmarklet in the immediate future?
- Mark Trapp
Is there a reason not to have the new links next to "Comment - Like" links? Feels a bit scattered.
- kilbuda
Sorry, that's not intuitive or easy to use. I didn't even know they existed without an explanation.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
It's just become much harder to hide a bunch of things quickly. Otherwise it's ok.
- Robin Barooah
I think it's fine. Good work.
- Jim Hearts FF
Glad it's back. Think it ought to be grouped with the others, or at least everything in the same place. I didn't think the old implementation was lacking much. Maybe something in between?
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
And the bookmarklet has been upgraded so you can share to multiple places! I'm super happy about that. Not so sure about the link placement on the entries, though. I sort of like the contextual visibility, but I think I like it from a "that's cool-looking!" perspective rather than a usability one. Not sure I would've noticed them without your post.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Damnit, it has not. If I hit the bookmarklet while on FriendFeed, it shows the reshare box, with the ability to share to multiple places. But if I'm on some other site and hit it, it shows the old one. WUWT?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Jandy, I don't see a new bookmarklet at all.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The new bookmarklet hasn't launched yet, but it's being use for reshare, which is why you may see it on beta.friendfeed.com (but nowhere else).
- Paul Buchheit
Interesting side effect of the links on the right side is a potential for obscuring the author line: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Mark Trapp
Thank You!
- Alfredo
Don't think I'm a fan of the delay. The links don't obscure anything, so I don't see the harm in showing them immediately.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I think maybe the delay should be shortened a bit.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Gotta say I'd rather the buttons next to all the other buttons (like, comment, etc), what was the rationale for having them up the top?
- Glenn Slaven
YAY!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I would like it if 'hide' ended up back with the other buttons. I use it all the time and I don't want to have to target twice with the pointer (once to bring up the bar and once to hit the link), but link and reshare are much less common operations, so for me it's ok for them to be less accessible.
- Robin Barooah
If you want to use the new bookmarklet, open the properties of the link on your browser and change the url from friendfeed.com to beta.friendfeed.com
- Glenn Slaven
Glenn, thanks for the tip. I didn't think of that.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I do remember that folks never looked under "More" for stuff, but I'm not a fan of having the per-entry actions in two different places :-/. Also, with everything else real time, the delay before the links appear seems sorta disconnected.
- Ken Sheppardson
Very cool.
- Andrew Leahey
What the hell? What have you guys done? FAIL.
- Mark Wilson
why fail mark? i'm curious
- Zee.
Great job.
- Russ Jackson
can the mouse over effect work even when the cursor is on the white space of a block?
- Kishore Balakrishnan
if the "like" is always visible, why not the same for "link reshare hide"
- Kishore Balakrishnan
agree kishore
- Rob Shillingsburg
It bothers me that there are two separate sets of links for actions on the post, and they are widely separated. It makes it difficult to move from one task to another. I'm not sure why they couldn't be grouped together, unless Link - Reshare - Hide are that much more important than Comment - Like (which seems wrong to me, but you've place Link - Reshare - Hide in a much more prominent location).
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Hi Paul.. any pointers on letting people know, and finding companies to help trial a content management site that I'm launching?
- Calvin Pert
Duck ... mainstream is coming .... :)
- Charlie Anzman
I like it a lot.
- April Buchheit
I am also finding that when I am aiming for a link within the entry itself that's over to the right hand side, the tools are popping up and distracting me as I try to target.
- Robin Barooah
LOVE it...
- Johnny Worthington
Why don't you put the Comment & Like up where the Link - Reshare - Hide is? I just had problems finding it. Maybe put the timestamp up there also, on the left, and then the other links could appear during the mouseover on the same line.
- AC Delco
Thanks for your work! Though now (with delay) it takes a bit more time to scan through the page and hide entries that deserve hiding. You know, sometimes I instantly see that I'll hide this, and delay just slows it down... though giving me time to rethink. =) Just to points: 1. 'Link' on the post page is unnecessary? (linking to itself); 2. maybe it's unnecessary at all? I was happy with timestamps... =)
- Anton
Anton, are you happy with just vi too?
- AC Delco
Messing around with this, noticeable change in my behavior already based on cursor location; I either hide everything or I comment. I'm on a 10" screen and I don't want to move from Hide all the way to Comment or vice versa. One thing's for certain, there's no way I'd use FF on my 17" laptop for an extended (more than 5 min) amount of time.
- Anika
Post management on the right, post interaction under title, works for me...
- Johnny Worthington
Even more so than I'm stoked on the upgrades (keep 'em coming though) - I'm stoked on the way you guys are running your shop here. I like the attentiveness to users, I like the personal responses to bug reports. I like the advance notice of downtime. And I like the environment and communication that that kind of treatment promotes. The Friends that feed me here are great because of that. Thanks! more more more ;-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Nice, but the bottom padding of, let's see, .toplinks extends down to far and can cover links.
- Maxwell Hunter Terry
Rob, I so agree. Whoever heard of a developer coming off the mountain and socializing with the folks - and actually telling us about features and how they work? I absolutely love it - Paul, you remind me a little bit of the owner of a very good restaurant, circulating among the tables and making sure everyone's having a great time.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
That was fast... Thank you!
- Susan Beebe
Excellent. Thank you.
- Greg GuitarBuster
ah thank you!!-though i would never have known it was there if you didn't mention i had to hover over the link ( I saw an earlier post mentioning this feature and I was like "huh? where?" :)
- Kelly W.
And I really like the fact that you put Link up there as well. Of course that may have been up there a bit, but still it makes things easier.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I'm not convinced that placing "Link - Reshare - Hide" in a different location than "Comment - Like" is such a good idea.
- Kevin D. White
A bit late to this party, but yeah, glad saw this. The not-so-immediate appearance of the Link-Reshare-Hide options kinda threw me off initially, but your reasoning made sense. Thanks for bringing it back! :D
- Helen Sventitsky
why can't i reshare the conversation to someone who don't use the FF?
- tianhou
Yay !
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
It's less clutter, thanks! It could be nice for these three actions to appear next to the mouse, maybe?
- Bleys
hmm, let's try on tablet again -- people say FriendFeed in beta is much quicker on Nokia Internet Tablets than current (presumably bloated with JS) FrF
- A.T.
hmmm on N810 it has weird feeling while refresh is done...
- A.T.
Oh no, "Hide" is so far from "Like" now
- Кофе без сахара
Very happy to have reshare back; don't like the position (too far from other controls), don't like the mouseover (distracting, especially with the delay, and seems to interfere with other links if they extend out that far). Please just bring back "more"!
- Bill Hooker
Love it!
- Roshan Ramachandran
I like new position of Hide (I use hide as "mark it read")
- Roman Zolotarev
Paul, wud be great & really easy if Mail Invitations link had option for importing & selecting email contacts...rather than typing/copy-paste. Any plans for this?
- Roshan Ramachandran
Please, bring "hide" link back to main controls area. It's very unuseful in a new position: 1) too far from main mouse route; 2) opens with a delay. It makes filtering process a pain when one of the most used links is put away. Filtering is one of FriendFeed's killer-features and one of it's core functions.
- Juras Vetrau
cool... but with touchscreen device I can't perform the mouseover action.
- Francesco Marconi
^^^ oh yes !!! mouseover sucks big time
- A.T.
Paul, thank you for adding the reshare but it's just like the old UI. Is there no way posts could be shared properly, i.e. synced likes and comments? It would be ideal to just open the post up to new feeds not create new posts with new comments, etc. It would help with cutting down duplication.
- Kol Tregaskes
I agree with Kol. Would be great as an option to reshare with the original likes and comments.
- Jesper Lind
Also the Reshare link should be next to the Comment, Like and Hide links, this is where all "action" links are and makes sense to put them to together not dotted around in different places.
- Kol Tregaskes
And I appreciate the "Link" link might make things clearer to some but it's pretty easy to grab the link from the timestamp so we have 2 links on the post doing the same thing. I think all you really need to do it make the timestamp look like a link, i.e. change the text blue like other links.
- Kol Tregaskes
I hate it: hide should go back to its place, near "like", since clicking it where it is... is hard and unintuitive.
- Marcos Marado
Great! That "reshare" feature is essential for me. Thank you.
- clairity
It's really great!
- Ninh Nguyen
Should it be Link - Hide - Reshare instead of the current order?
- Ninh Nguyen
I don't like how the background obscures content if the item was posted to multiple feeds that span the entire top line. How about making them appear next to the existing Comment - Like links instead?
- Tony Ruscoe
looks great
- Peter Efland
Wow. This feature has been revamped in less than 24h, based on feedback. That's why Friendfeed rules in real time!
- Jérôme Flipo
Now that's what I call "responsive to users". Kudos.
- Bill Hooker
"The Scoble Effect" is now much more powerful from a "Like" via FriendFeed to Twitter than from a link on his blog. @scobleizer
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I say this only because I got linked to today and got a click or two. A like via FF to Twitter sends a good stream of visitors.
- Louis Gray
Agreed - Scoble writing about you is one thing, but if I were a PR rep I'd be writing articles designed to get Scoble to like. I've had a few of those and the traffic and retweets on Twitter were amazing!
- Jesse Stay
i rarely get traffic from FF unless louis or robert "likes" my item - like yesterday i saw about 50 or so peoples
- Allen Stern
Robert, actually helped me decide to continue using FF, and that was many months back, I stuck it out even through Robert Scoble almost needing an intervention. He knows his stuff and I now value his opinion and friendship across many of the networks now.
- aerobroken
Allen, that's because you're not using the FriendFeed Beta ;-)
- Jesse Stay
oh yea Jesse?
- Allen Stern
I know this wasn't Jesse's intent, but it's probably not wise to design a marketing piece PRIMARILY to appeal to one particular reviewer (no matter how influential, or perceptive, said reviewer may be). While that's a good secondary goal, the primary goal should be to appeal to your target audience. And, of course, you yourself have to be comfortable with what you're writing.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
When Scoble and I were taking a tour of DC he twit'ed about it with my name and wham, I got like two dozen followers in 20 minutes.
- Andrew Leyden
Allen I think it is massively lame for a tech blogger to celebrate not staying up to date.
- Robert Scoble
John: Not good for the whole piece, but maybe good to design a headline that you know will catch a few particular reviews eyes.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
i guess i am lame then - i haven't had time to look into yet so I didn't want to just load it up - i am working on a variety of things the last week or so - it's not that i won't just that I haven't had time yet - i don't want to do it a disservice by spending a minute here or there - so that's why i haven't loaded it up yet
- Allen Stern
Scoble's blog has never been great at sending traffic to sites he links to. Or at least that has been my experience given the various times he's linked to my blog. I don't pay enough attention to my traffic from Twitter/Friendfeed to be able to tell if there is a significant difference from when Robert likes one of my posts compared to other times.
- Dare Obasanjo
Dare - when Scoble posted a link to my startup deep in one of his posts (not about my startup) i saw a good deal of traffic from it - and received a few orders as well - something only a few of the other tech bloggers sent - actual paying orders.
- Allen Stern
well that makes me want to use FF more often now :P
- Gaith
Allen, you're probably right in waiting on the beta until you can devote a bit of time to it. Some people have to tweak their settings (e.g. set up additional lists and/or special filters) to truly interact effectively with the beta.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
cool, then scoobe should post about http://arabcrunch.com hehehe
- Gaith
btw the post i had CrunchPad pics was from Scobe tweet http://bit.ly/2IE9wO which caused 15 blogs to link me engadget among them
- Gaith
An interesting observation Louis. I'll add something to it: The links I post myself via friendfeed "likes" seem to get more traffic, and definitely get retweeted more on twitter. It's not just a Scoble effect. Maybe there's something to the way the tweet says: Liked "Thus and so" that makes people want to click on it more. (That said, I've taken some heat for "liking" stuff that I only liked to post it out to twitter, and in fact hated it and wanted people to see it as well. )
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Scoble does not follow me. :-(
- Alp
Alp: not true anymore.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, I do. Alp.
- Alex Scoble
Quick, someone give me some Scoble bait. For both of them!
- Mike Nayyar
Alex, I tried to mean Robert. Yay, it's not true anymore :-( :-)
- Alp
Dare: sometimes when I link to things only 10 people take the bait. Other times 1,000 do. I think it has to do with whether there's something really new and also how much people spread around that particular post. This is VERY important in the world of Twitter. It's the retweeting and liking behavior that determines how much traffic something gets.
- Robert Scoble
Depends, I went on a hiding spree, wasn't getting as much as I used to.
- Richard A.
*tosses Mike some Scoble snacks* Try those ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yup - seeing the same Scoble "Like" effect.
- Hutch Carpenter
interesting observation, and interesting to see if PR people and bloggers start writing material on the basis of what they hope Scoble will like... not healthy for the general community, but interesting effect of the 'super-influencers'
- Peter Efland
Peter: if they do, they would totally miss the point. Mostly I like stuff after other people in the community like it too.
- Robert Scoble
I liked this, but somehow I don't think my "Like" has the same effect. Just a hunch ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Once Scoble liked one of my shares, I felt blessed
- sofarsoShawn
I know the feeling. He once liked a joke I'd made about twitter being training wheels for friendfeed.
- George Hall (Australia)
Agreed. He's just so passionate and it's so evident he's sincere in his likes and dislikes. People tend to believe what he says and investigate what he refers because of his genuineness.
- Abounding Media
I didn't have a shower today (or get out of the house) and I don't give a damn.
Derrick, Allen Stern, edythe and 16 other people liked this
Same here - have the flu. Slept all day, going back to bed now.
- Micah Wittman
Feel better soon Micah!
- Internet's Tad
That's also Tad's "I didn't get my cupcake today" look :P
- imabonehead
No, that involves a bit more frowning. I'd be pretty upset.
- Internet's Tad
You look awesome, Tad.
- Louis Gray
Odd definition of awesome. :D
- Internet's Tad
I've been living in a gutter for 3 days now...
- sofarsoShawn
lol
- Brandon
Would FF be less forgiving of a female who admitted the same? I woke up with a sore throat; I didn't even ride my bike today, and I always ride if it's warm/dry enough :(
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Yes we would Minimage: what about the envrionment? & global warming huh? Just joking :( with you...
- sofarsoShawn
I find Sunday's are great days for bonding with one's couch. I didn't go anywhere either - but I also didn't have the Chutzpah to take a self-portrait!
- Heidi Cool
Everyone deserves a break here and there Tad!
- Howard O'Berry
Cheer up Tad from Yesterday. Tad from the Future says it's gonna be OK.
- Micah Wittman
TwitZap: Never Refresh Twitter Again [del.icio.us] - http://mashable.com/2009...
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Hi I am nobody and I use FriendFeed - http://techwag.com/index...
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I thought everybody was either a PC or a Mac. This tech business is so confusing!
- Stan Scott
LOL, Stan.
- Kol Tregaskes
setting up a private feed for family and friends for the little trouble makers coming in 5 short weeks!!!
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OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! ok i'm good now... no I am not OMG! OMG! ;)
- Jay Martinez
hehe. Panic is normal at this stage....doubly so for you! :) DON'T PANIC!
- WorldofHiglet
supposedly 5 weeks but we were told could be any time :)
- Jay Martinez
Oh yes, any day....I mean - you'll be fine!
- WorldofHiglet
car keys and shoes are within arms reach! bag is already in car
- Jay Martinez
All the numbers pinned in 5 places, on speed dial and mixtapes (ok - cds. Or iPods) done...you'll be fine!
- WorldofHiglet
Happy Easter!
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Ewww!
- WorldofHiglet
25 things vanishing in America: the fax machine - http://www.walletpop.com/blog...
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Will Apple pretend iPhone video recording requires the new iPhone? - http://macenstein.com/default...
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Almost certainly yes. At the very least, the new iPhone will have a much nicer camera in it. Apple may well activate the camera in existing iPhones, but might degrade the quality. LOL
- Internet's Tad
I think it´s going to be the great hook for the new phone.
- Pedro Rodrigues
BREAKING: Gay marriage now legal in Vermont - http://www.americablog.com/2009...
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Google, T-Mobile bringing Android to home phones too - http://venturebeat.com/2009...
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Oh god . . . I just looked at beta and I think I want to vomit. Not only do I still hate real-time but you'd think they could hire a designer and get a decent look for the site.
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what you don't like grey :p
- andy brudtkuhl
that's what she said
- RAPatton
AJ Batac's script makes it look much better, fwiw
- Josh Haley
I shouldn't have to use a script to make a site look decent, but thanks Josh.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
And this is why I love Lindsey. :D
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I agree, not liking having to use scripts.
- Josh Haley
Hit pause and refresh when you want, just like the old days ;-)
- LogEx
Yeah, but we shouldn't have to Pause and hit Refresh to have the same functionality as Standard view in regular FF right now. That's just silly and it punishes people who don't want to use Real-time.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
You only have to hit pause once, ever. It will remember across logins.
- LogEx
...it is a beta; don't forget that aspect of it all. :)
- JA Castillo
Pause doesn't fix ugly
- Lindsey is Fierce!
At least the Cleaner Friendfeed Stylish styles still work. :-)
- Joey Gibson
I use Minefield and Chrome. Stylish shit doesn't work for me. Having to use scripts to fix a website? STUPID. Not every can or will use scripts. A website should be both functional and elegant ON ITS FUCKING OWN.
- Mattie Kenny
So, not a fan of Craigslist, Mattie?
- Phil G
I like the colors just fine.
- Gavin
Craigslist has a shitty design, Phil. And your point is?
- Mattie Kenny
My point, if I have one, is that a site does not have to be elegant to be highly functional. However, I do think it is critical that a site is at least highly functional or highly elegant.
- Phil G
They have a great designer - the same one who improved GMail and Google Reader. It's a question of preference.
- Louis Gray
Louis, you're just biased because of your name. heheh ;)
- Dawn
I got used to that with the first designs Phil, but at this stage after announcing a new design for the second time you'd think they could hire a designer to do their work justice. Obviously they don't think much of designers or what value they can really add to a site. It's insulting on a level. This design isn't even worthy of a high school design student.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Wow... yeah, do not like. :-(
- Ladybug Heather
I love the new design. I'm not a designer, but I think it looks 1000% better. Of course everyone's tastes are different.
- Thomas Hawk
I agree with Thomas, the new design looks awesome for me too..more robust and much better than the previous design.
- Ahmed
I'm gonna have to ask to see your portfolio, Lindsey. The portfolio link from your LinkedIn profile is busted btw.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel - One does not need to have a portfolio of one's own in order to know what is and isn't good design. Nor does one have to know how to do something themselves to know that it should or shouldn't be done. By trying to say that because you can't see Lindsey's portfolio that her opinion and critique is moot is a logical fallacy and not a valid argument.
- Mattie Kenny
Not a fan of the look as is, but I think its better in the sense it's cleaner. Better is better... the previous version VERY confusing. Think they are moving in the right direction with function and features.
- Glen Group
I'm not discounting Lindsey's opinion, I'm just wowed by her vehemence. Real people - professional peers of Lindsey's no less - designed this and she is laying into them pretty heavily. It couldn't hurt to be more polite towards Kevin et al, right?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Wow Mattie, I think you read a lot into what Daniel was asking. If you were having a design discussion with someone in person, it wouldn't be outrageous for them to ask to see your portfolio. Also, it would be rather suspicious if you then refused and said "I don't need to prove my chops to know I have excellent design taste"
- Phil G
Your avatar looks nice in the new design Lindsey for what it's worth.
- Thomas Hawk
Daniel, I really doubt that professional designers came up with that. It has programmer written all over it, which is an entirely different set of skills than that of a professional designer.
- RAPatton
I don't need to show you a portfolio to prove my design skills. Suffice it to say I can make a rounded corner that doesn't look pixelated. Kevin is not a professional peer of mine. I don't even know him. I am here as a user of the site. And thanks Thomas ;)
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Reason is simple: they want you to focus on content and show you what truly matters.
- Kris
As a designer, I am not too fond of critiques distilled down to requesting a "decent look".
- Glen Group
Good point Abby - I enjoy reading FFers who are more candid than I allow myself to be. I agree that the look could be better, and I look forward to the next round of tweaks.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Kris - I don't think "content is king" really has much to do with the implementation of the rounded corners or the choice of a gray background. It's perfectly valid for someone to like the spirit of FF but have quibbles with its look.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Glen I only say that because that's the least they could do. I'd like to see them hire a top end designer and give the site what it needs, but at the very least they could put some thought behind the design and make it decent
- Lindsey is Fierce!
AJ's fixes made a bad design somewhat better.
- ld
I kind of like the simple design, ok maybe gray is not the best color.
- Kim Landwehr
I was pretty impressed by AJ's screenshots and the fact that he seems to have cranked out the greasemonkey script in an hour or less. Isn't that how people (well, Ben Golub) get jobs at FF?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Looks like some rejected offspring from blogspot.
- Spencer
Content is king but how you present it goes much farther to aide the user in how they use the site. I'm picking at the rounded corners because it's a basic skill and show the lack of attention to detail. It shows a lack of skill on one level and explains why the overall design is terrible.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Grrr. The beta isn't functional at all and I won't be using it. I'm not a fast reader and I shouldn't have to pause and unpause my feed. Also, who thought it was a genius idea to combine the rooms and subscriptions?
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
I like the new look. And the real time is better now then it was before. And you know it will get better, after all this is BETA.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
@JH - the pause is persistent. Pause it once and it won't bother you again. Hit f5 when you catch up.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I love that I can track this conversation in a separate tab that updates in realtime without my ever needing to refresh.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@JH You don't have to pause and unpause just pause once and hit refresh like you would before.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
@Lindsey I agree it could be better. Just like to see more specifics in a critique. However the simplification in my opinion is better. Can we convince them to push further with specifics?
- Glen Group
@Dan - Perhaps a better idea would have been to make the real-time thing optional instead of default, kind of like how the old Friendfeed was.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Mattie and Lindsey, sorry about my reaction earlier. You guys are awesome, just wanted to let you know.
- Phil G
I think it looks great! I like it. Clean.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I'll agree to that Glen . . .I admit I'm just being lazy with my critique
- Lindsey is Fierce!
@Phil There's nothing to apologize for. You just stated an opinion in a well thought out manner. :)
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Change is good, but it needs customizable backgrounds.
- Altrus Edwards
@JH I agree that I don't really need realtime updates for most cases... except for comments. I want the comments to always be updating in realtime. The posts themselves can wait until I reload.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
themes and that i can see all services of a user with one look. i dont like to be sent to a extra page for that.
- Chris Hofmann
Aren't customizable backgrounds one of the reasons everyone left MySpace for Facebook? There's a lot to be said for a consistent UI.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I am also not a fan of the new look (and am preferring AJ's Stylish version). It is a beta, however, and they're looking for feedback. I would guess that they were more concerned with functionality than look and feel at this stage, as the site can always be skinned later, but the way it works is what makes or breaks it. Maybe they are even intending to give users some control over that, or, maybe they might ask for submissions from designers on FF who use the site for the RTM version.
- Her Lindsay-ness
..and the font for "xx more" in the subscription box needs a smaler size...it need to be distinguishable from the subscription entries
- Chris Hofmann
@Lindsey Gotcha. At least it has generated discussion. Always good! :-)
- Glen Group
I'd like to be able to manually rearrange the boxes in the sidebar. GMail labs has a feature to enable that, and some sites enable it by default.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Daniel I think that's a perfect functionality. Real-time comments but static posts. @Lindsay D I can appreciate the fact that this is beta, however I have never seen a lot of changes from beta to production in general. I doubt they will overhaul the look.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
FF has moved the sidebar from the right to the left to the right again, wonder if/when it will ever settle down?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I see we're missing service icons in the feed now. I liked being to readily identify last.fm posts from twitter posts from other services. I wonder if they even talk to their users about how they use FF.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
I hear the lack of service icons is a sort of holy war in favor of content neutrality. FF doesn't want you to differentiate between services. I used them too though. Maybe they could be brought back but in a smaller way off to the side?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Lindsey, I just noticed that too (about the icons). I personally like the new design, but not so much that point.
- Chieze Okoye
It's interesting, but their is alot that is annoying with this beta. I do like the filter function and that it's saved and shown like a group on the side bar. But I agree why get ride of the service icons? I use them as I'm skimming through the streams.
- Bluesun 2600
it would be useful to know what the content sources are.
- Paul Jacobson
from fftogo
FriendFeed is going to have better SEO now than ever before. Check out the characteristics of the URL for this post and the ever-growing number of comments with links to usernames. Outstanding. http://beta.friendfeed.com/eclipse...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
@Lindsey - They might overhaul the look if enough people complain about it. The last few versions of the beta pretty much looked like the existing version (with a few added tweaks, but basic same color scheme, etc.). Where things go on the page moved around A LOT in the last beta based on the feedback they got... If enough people complain about the look they will most likely change it. That's the point of putting out a beta and requesting feedback.
- Her Lindsay-ness
Also, it's defaulting to a narrow-column format. Can I get the wide format back, please?
- Bill Sodeman
agreed, the fixed width centered format is old school
- Andy Bakun
from fftogo
@David Yes I was referring a little bit to motion sickness. I know a lot of people that would get dizzy from this. Definitely not off-topic
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Lindsey, are comments get lost here on the Beta-UI or are you deleting them?
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
I never delete comments unless they're extremely offensive. I'm not sure what comments you're referring to. I think I've deleted one comment during my entire time here on FF.
- Lindsey is Fierce!
waves to everyone from the deleted dust bin:)
- chaz2b
I have noticed the beta UI seems to occasionally chug on comment posting. I imagine if you type, hit enter, and then click a link without waiting to see the comment show up you could lose one.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Okay Lindsey. That's why I asked. I thought there might be a problem... Or there is another posting with the exact same topic, that I jumbled. Have to keep an eye of that, if there are comments get lost on beta.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
"Lindsey is Fierce" just broke into my orange "Subscriptions" box in the beta UI. I guess FF noticed that I've been commenting on this thread a lot today and promoted you higher up on my attention list.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
How do I say this without being negative? I like bright cheerful colors, and grey is in a different category. I do have to hit that pause button; the first time I posted, I immediately decided to edit the post, and I ended up doing something else entirely, because something else scrolled under my pointer. I had to go chasing my post, until I noticed the pause button. I made use of Ctrl - several times, because I' feel this helps me to get as much info as I'm used to on the screen. I kind of like the right.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Let the user configure what they see, not what everyone else sees. The fact I have to rely on CSS hacks and scripts from third parties to use sites like this for more than a few minutes at a time is ludicrous.
- Michael W. May
Well said MWM
- Lindsey is Fierce!
amen. seriously, this "beta" is what all the buzz is about? it's just hype. i wonder how much it cost to buy Scoble to pump it up
- Dossy Shiobara
Dossy, is "wonder how much it cost to buy Scoble" hyperbole, or do you actually believe he was paid by ff quid pro quo for his beta coverage and ongoing activity on the FriendFeed service?
- Micah Wittman
@micah, I'm speculating, but Scoble's irrational exhuberance over how "great" FF is smells like "bought PR flack" to me. To be honest, if FF were my product and I could afford someone as influential as Scoble, I would buy his hype-making services - don't get me wrong! But, to pretend it's not a likely possibility seems pretty myopic to me.
- Dossy Shiobara
Robert Scoble and I butt heads at times (many times!), but nobody can question his integrity when it comes to his enthusiasm for products. He DOES NOT take money for "hyping" FF or any other company, except for the one he's working for or has as a visible/upfront sponsor at the time.
- Dawn
good times bump
- chaz2b
If you fancy sharing via Google Reader post your email addy here. (I did this before recently but not that big a response)
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z@zee.me
- Zee.
kipp.bodnar AT gmailDOTcom
- Kipp Bodnar
warren.butler with the usual gmail stuff to follow
- Warren Butler
steward.tony at gmail dot com
- Tony
grahamenglish at gmail
- Graham English
jaemik@gmail.com
- Jaemi Kehoe
pglockner at etc., see you on greader!
- Phil G
coldacid at gmail dot com
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
chrisbaskind at gmail etc
- Chris Baskind
oheresy at gmail.com
- Beau Liening
suggestion: you could link this to a private group or something, Zee, so folks can avoid getting spammed. looks like you have several people who don't mind that risk, though.
- Kamilah Gill
how do i link this to a private group?
- Zee.
eberlejared @ gmail
- BCK
edwardsmark at gmail dot com
- Mark Edwards
louisgray@gmail.com
- Louis Gray
tsudohnimh@gmail.com
- Keith - @tsudo
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- Kyle Judkins
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- Gregory R
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- JA Castillo
teodalton at gmail
- Mateo Yadarola
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- rob friedman
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- Jan Friman
Churchsg at gmail dot com
- Sally Church
bizsumpark182@gmail.com
- Mathew™ one of a kind
areyoulookon@gmail.com
- kang
zee, make a group for it and say post the addresses here if you prefer. that might reduce your responses, though. looks like you got a pretty good response, anyway.
- Kamilah Gill
pardeemp@gmail.com
- Michael Pardee
vezquex@gmail.com
- Vezquex: God of FF
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- Daltonsbriefs
I don't get why people find the new friendfeed overwhelming. It is mostly the old realtime feature with a new design.
Jeff P. Henderson, Baard @ Pixum, Tyler (Chacha) and 5 other people liked this
I agree. When I use FriendFeed I only use it in RealTime so this isn't much of a difference for me either. The colors aren't to my liking, but I have no complaints about the general UID.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
Because not everyone found the old realtime feature usable...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And I hated and never used the old realtime feature.
- Rochelle
Well, speaking as a UI Designer, I think the new FF design is much easier for newcomers and every service needs newcomers. Also because of it's Twitter likeness it is more familiar to most twitter users. Facebook went that way too. So, the way I see it, the new FriendFeed design is like Twitter on steroids! You get your text messages, your photos, your videos and anything else. I think this new design will make it more mainstream as a Social Media network and more people will start using it eventually.
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
Not too mad at it actually. I will get it one of these days
- Howard O'Berry
Not a fan of realtime either.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Never used realtime myself.
- Niki Costantini
I never used realtime as it is very hard to read through a long thread with the screen constantly updating.
- Jeff P. Henderson
You do have the option of pausing your screen in the Beta. It is at the top right corner to the left of your profile photo
- Spyros Papaspyropoulos
pause is the key. once that's turned on, it acts like the old static pages.
- Kamilah Gill
RT @AlohaArleen EVERY parent (and their teens) should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Amazing job @HilaryAnnDuff PLZ RT (mahalo)
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Great ... timing - http://naurunappula.com/z...
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Apple store guy @kanjedi says "I follow you on Twitter." I tell him "you get the sale." buying a monitor for new friendfeed.
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Lol :)
- Kurai (ff)
I have friendfeed on 2 screens at the moment, do i need another one? :) , You just keep teasing more about tomorrows release.
- Simon Wicks
Does he follow you on FriendFeed though? And will he "like" this post?
- Jesse Stay
a whole monitor dedicated to FriendFeed?
- Thomas Hawk
Who needs another screen when you've got FriendFeed? :)
- Meryn Stol
Heck, even I want a monitor dedicated to FriendFeed, and I probably follow 1/10000th of what Scoble does. Can't afford it right now, though...
- Tristan Seligmann
Wow, that is awesome. is the new Friendfeed deserving of an entire new monitor? Wow
- Howard O'Berry
from twhirl
I'm surprised you don't already have a FF monitor, Robert.
- Ken Sheppardson
Well, even in and around San Francisco there are only so many tech people. And they are probably all following you Robert, of course minus some "special cases" ;-) Edit: Why are you shopping at Apple for a new display? ('spensive)
- Holger Eilhard
a new monitor for friendfeed, sounds like more intrigue =)
- Kirill Bolgarov
Pimping FriendFeed: 40+ Useful Apps, Widgets, and Plugins | WHDb - http://whdb.com/2008...
Bill Romanos, Roger Chen, Naofumi Kagami and 51 other people liked this
apptastic!
- Laura Norvig
planning to bookmark this post as well :)
- Jennifer Van Grove
Worthy bookmark bump
- Mike Fruchter
LIKE
- Mona Nomura
Will definitely have to plow through this a li'l later.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
"um, how can I integrate my FriendFeed into Myspace?" <ca-click> HEADSHOT!!
- Josh Haley
well...actually...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Rahsheen, I have to say, you're quite impressive with your laundry list of talents. Coding, writing, acting, rapping, what can't you do? :P
- Hao Chen
"Go Broke?" --Riley from Boondocks
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Nah, seriously, though. LOL. I just like to learn stuff. I don't think there is anything a person can't learn how to do.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
great list!
- Abbas Haider Ali
Great list and now clipped to evernote!!
- Mel Buckpitt
NOTE: Tons of bad links in the original article (4/13 of links were bad so far). Jimmy needs to test his article posts. I'm adding correct links as I find them (and sub-links to interesting items on linked pages) in my FF/Del.icio.us comments at http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Mitchell Tsai
Is it just me or are people being overly self-promotional in blog post comments lately? And then people get pissed at me for calling them out. How about proper networking etiquette? That's not how you get on someone's radar...
Daniel Johnson, Jr., Geoff Schultz, Barbara K. Baker and 7 other people liked this
Desperate times! I noticed it a while ago though. Like when I first started blogging. As things like social media and blogging get more and more popular, you are bound to see more and more people bending/breaking the rules to get ahead. In most cases it works against them though.
- Howard O'Berry
from twhirl
I love how some guy commented on my "Best Internet Marketing Posts of 2007" post with a YouTube video he created and wrote about in 2008. Not only that, but the guy even added fake "testimonials" for his barely-viewed video! Definitely desperate times. It's sad. It's not hard to sign up for social networks like FriendFeed, use them effectively, and become known. But commenting out of the blue about oneself is not genuine. (And this isn't the most recent case either...)
- Tamar Weinberg
well i would say that a large number of social media blogs are fairly self-promoting, so that's probably in your radar... really depends on what you read...
- Jeremy Toeman
I think it's about time that a blog post be written to address this... in the radar, I guess. What else peeves you about blog comments?
- Tamar Weinberg
i get annoyed by the lack of follow-up in a comment thread. people let the conversation just 'die' too much
- Jeremy Toeman
Strangely yesterday I received a sincere apology from a guy who was promoting his service in comments that were almost off-topic (and he definitely did not seem to read the post itself). And that's my point: I hate it when people submit comments with their thoughts without actually reading my thoughts in the post. The irony is that I may have already described the same ideas right in the post itself.
- Svetlana Gladkova
@Svetlana, I totally agree -- people like to hear themselves but may not actually want to hear you -- and they're using YOUR blog comments as a sound board. Ironic indeed.
- Tamar Weinberg
@Tamar: Ironic indeed but very natural. After all, people have been taught for a while now that blog comments can be used as an efficient marketing and promotional tool and so we see the results now.
- Svetlana Gladkova
from twhirl
The best way to network is to help other people. Also, that's the *only* way to promote yourself on other people's blogs -- leave an interesting comment, and put your URL in the space provided for that.
- Mitch Wagner
iPhone 2.0.2 firmware is available now. Update and hope it solves your problems.
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Wondering - How many of you have blocked Igor the Troll?
Alan Le, Jeremiah Owyang, Jesse Stay and 10 other people liked this
i have not.
- Phil G
Not me! You do no like me anymore? lol
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Yeah, he's blocked. And his sidekick, Noah David Simon.
- Mark Trapp
Yuvi, should I block you first? LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Mark Trapp, you are such a Fascist!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Nope. Far as trolls go, Igor's pretty cool. Very rarely I remove a comment or two, but he does have many good points. He's got his own room http://friendfeed.com/rooms... (38 members), where he feeds Robert Scoble (since Robert has blocked him). Cool strategy. If somebody blocks you, make a room & feed them into the room! My philosophy is "let live". FriendFeed allows you to (1) hide (2) moderate comments so it's pretty neat.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell. I only report on Robert Scoble and let the community decide. http://tinyurl.com/4slopm
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
@Igor: I'm not going to block you anytime soon (I blocked Noah, 'coz I was getting a bunch of images that my dad will mistake for nsfw images if he sees 'em).
- Yuvi
I refer you to: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Michael W. May
Yuvi, I do not Troll or pick on people. Also me exposing Robert has nothing to do with him blocking me. I did not even know who he was till a few months ago. Never said a bad word to him, but I did a post on him based on his hype of Chinese earthquake. He did not take the criticism warmly and started blocking me first on Twitter then on FF. He even made a public post about it. So I am not angry at him but just showing the community what he is.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I blocked Igor, but I haven't blocked Noah David Simon yet... Haven't heard too much from him lately though...
- Internet's Tad
@Mark @Tad When you block someone do you see their comments anywhere; i.e. do you see this post without Igor's 5 comments?
- Mitchell Tsai
I guess what really tipped me off was that he called me, "Anonymous blogger" I think all of us have an important opinion in the Social Media, small or big. None of us are anonymous. We all have rights and should be given respect.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Mitchell: I can see his comments via a search. I just checked: yeah, I'm still okay with my choice. The main problem I have with them is that they don't find anything inappropriate and they don't know when to quit.
- Mark Trapp
@Igor: Well, maybe I would like a reason why you call yourself a troll?
- Yuvi
I don't see any of Igor's spoor on FF.
- Internet's Tad
Mark quit what? When someone humiliates you in public should you just walk away? http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Yuvi fare question. I call myself a Troll as a reverse parody, sarcasm!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
If you like to know more about why I gave myself a nic Troll please read http://www.igorthetroll.com/i-am-ig... But Yuvi, being that you come from a cast society and you know what "Labels" are I figure you would empathize!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Blocked. And other jerks too.
- Robert Scoble
Not yet. Igor is a pretty civil troll compared with some I have recently encountered.
- shelisrael1
Thanks Shel. I have no beef with you. I actually told Loren to Fuck Off when he went to far with you and Dave.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I have
- Grant
If I go by the wikipedia definition of Internet Troll, Igor isn't a troll (yet).
- Yuvi
@Igor: Yes, I know how labeling can hurt. But, my generation is rather label-hating, and while the previous generation does label people (heck, it's even government authorized to append your caste name to your name), we don't. Calling myself Yuvi Nadar would be an enormous order of fucking stupidity. Igor Berger would alleviate a lot of problems.
- Yuvi
repeating for emphasis: Igor Berger would alleviate a lot of problems.
- Yuvi
I hear you! But that is what defines me! I do not not hide from my roots. I am a Jew from Russia and an Israeli citizen I am sure you met some Israelis as they travel through India a lot. We stand our ground that is our culture. I hope you can as well, but I understand that it would make your life so hard.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
It has nothing to do with the name, it has to do with the cynical and obnoxious comments
- Grant
@Igor: Mai eengliesh iees naut kuud enough to understand what the last comment meant. I was just saying that Igor Berger is a lot better name than Igor the Troll. No?
- Yuvi
Also, I haven't met *any* foreigners here - seen a few, but not *met* any. Absolutely my fault though - i don't go out as much as I should.
- Yuvi
True dat
- Grant
yuvi- where do you live
- Grant
Yuvi, Igor The Troll is my Internet nic, I am not changing it, because that is what and who I came to be. If it is the weight that I will have to carry all my life, that is my burden. I am who I am and nothing more and nothing less. It is like saying to a Jew, stop calling yourself a Jew!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
@Grant: I'm from India.
- Yuvi
I haven't blocked anyone yet!
- Joe Dawson
@Igor: Now that's weird. A few comments ago, you said you're not a troll. The Jew analogy doesn't fit ('coz you said you aren't a troll, you should stop calling yourself a troll, no?)
- Yuvi
But Yuvi, thanks for carrying. You are the first person who asked why my nic is Igor the Troll. I hope your Indian roots will make you strong. Be proud of who you are!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
just subscribed.
- Csturm
I haven't blocked Igor. He's pretty amusing mostly. Although, I'm probably not important enough for him to annoy :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Yuvi when someone gives you a label, why not ware it? I was bone in Russia and for years as I ravel across he world in South America, Europe, Asia, and India I would tell people I am Russian, other times American because I grew up in USA. But people would say to me, "You are Israeli" And I would say, I only lived in Israel a few years. Yes I am an Israeli citizen, but I did not see myself as Israeli.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
It was very funny but in India, people would ask what country you belong to? I could no understand what they mean and would ask hem what country I am a citizen of? They repeated the question, What country you belong to?" Years later I learned he meaning of this question. Now I just tell people I am an Israeli. Even when I went to Egypt and Morocco I told people I am an Israeli. Just be proud of who you are.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I didn't block him. He is the only person that makes me laugh at the moment. Some people are too serious. (I hope Igor isn't serious) (but I think he is dead serious) :)
- Howard O'Berry
from twhirl
Just subscribed to "Igor the Troll"
- Mitchell Tsai
@Igor: I guess I'll understand that someday, 'coz I haven't quite experienced it. Till then *blocked* [edit] I didn't see your last comment when I posted this. This was in response to your "label, wear it" comment
- Yuvi
*Just kiddin* :P
- Yuvi
Oh, India is a rather very complicated country. Don't get me started on that :P
- Yuvi
Actually I got many people following me on FF and Twitter from this post. So thank you all and especially Yuvi. It is very important to be transparent and honest with people.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Yuvi, I saved our conversation for posterity. http://www.igorthetroll.com/i-am-wh... Maybe next time you can tell us "Who is Yuvi" Thanks and looking forward to it.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I like trolling for igorthetroll's trolling ;)
- Jesse Stay
i have
- Tyler Gillies
I hate to open up old wounds and I was thinking Yuvi started this thread with regards to Robert Scoble blocking me on FF but now I realize it was due to Aaron Brazell. Michael W. May, I am sorry I did not click on your link thinking it was Scoble public outing of me! I wrote a response post to Aaron Brazell public outing with me! http://www.igorthetroll.com/blog...
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
While all Internet users have the right to block another user, but making it into a public thread and outing that user as a bad person on Social Media network is Cyberbullying and should not be done!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Viddler talks about being ignored. http://cdevroe.com/notes... Got a good point there!
Mike Fruchter, Ro (Lilyhill), Erno Hannink and 14 other people liked this
Hi Robert. I was just wondering if there is any particular reason why Viddler gets so little play - from you in particular. Is live cell phone streaming a deal breaker? I watched your Qik videos today and neither quality nor content looks that impressive (sorry!) - compared to your old stuff on PodTech that is. Which was professionally produced, of course. I know it's subject for a...
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- Alexei Tolkachev
I think both Viddler and Vimeo don't get enough "iRespect". Unlike YouTube, you can actually upload webcam/digital camera videos rather than other content or stolen content. Some people may overlook a site just because of that but... that's just my "iTheory".
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I've been using Viddler and I don't think they're ready for primetime yet. I've had issues with everything from recording video on site to issues with uploading/encoding. When the site functions properly the quality is phenomenal, but I can only be patient for so long.
- Jennifer Van Grove
from fftogo
I am looking for a video podcast host site / platform (dont wanna pay for Brightcove) and frankly none of them really do it right. I want the live webcam feed ability of uStream, the phone streaming of Qik (but on windows mobile) and the HD abilities and reliability of blip.tv. For now, that means combining ustream.tv and blip.tv.
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
To Colin's point, I have no idea where Viddler is. But maybe Loic can speak to this. Does Seemic do better because he moved to the Silicon Valley? I love Viddler regardless of where they are.
- Leo Laporte
Other than timelien comments, what is viddlers real value proposition? The design of the site is not as good as some, and the advertising int he sidebar on he homepage is, frankly, sort of of-putting... like they are desperate. When you are looking for a "home" you want the illusion of stability. I am all for giving them a chance... but they have to convince me they have something special happening.
- Soulhuntre
Viddler and Vimeo blow YouTube out of the water in quality of video. I *wish* Apple would make one of them the *default* upload/export destination from iMovie. It would do so much more justice to peoples videos. Plus, neither site has the YouTube commenters who are like bred in a special land just so they can go on to comment incoherently on YouTube.
- Adam Turetzky
I'm sorry, but if no one knows what they are doing because they aren't telling any one, that's their issue. I've never once received so much as an email from Viddler, either in a professional capacity or even as a Viddler user! (seriously, no updates, newsletters...nothing, and yes, the box to receive email IS ticked, I checked) There is next to zero outreach from this company, so for them to complain they are being ignored is extremely rich.
- Duncan Riley
oh, I do think it's a decent site and service, but that's only because I have an account, they've never once told me :-)
- Duncan Riley
seriously..Viddler? Never heard of it before right this minute
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Oh *that's* Viddler. I was commenting at work that I like the look of their player - didn't know they were called Viddler though.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I have been using Vimeo for cell phone video which I mail from my phone. I have found the service to be fairly fast in getting the content online and the player is great. In fact I think that their player is the best! A lot of content that is streamed live has no benefit to being live. Sometimes it is better to plan, execute properly, with the chance of redoing it if it does not go quite right, and then send. Live is great for getting dialogue going, I like those Robert.
- Glen Meyburgh
Vimeo video conversion has better quality than youtube, the community there is smaller but more interesting to follow, they produce the videos. I upload mine to Vimeo and Youtube, they look better on Vimeo.
- Mário Pires
I like Viddler but YouTube is where the people are
- Michael McGimpsey
from twhirl
also, for whatever reason, viddler figured out how to make one of my videos show higher-up on search engines. not sure, what they did....
- Pokai
Off topic: I kinda wish I could see when replies were made since this tweet was from back in April and the conversation has started up again.
- Frankie Warren
Puhlease, let the market decide, this is not about personal favors.
- Jeremiah Owyang
The market is made up of lots of personal favors.
- Brent Newhall
@Frankie Warren You can see the date stamp in feedalizr
- Glen Meyburgh
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