NASA will begin transmitting commands to its Mars exploration rover Spirit on Monday as part of an escape plan to free the venerable robot from its Martian sand trap. Spirit has been lodged at a site scientists call "Troy" since April 23. - NASA JPL http://is.gd/4TSi0
"Mr. Berners-Lee smiled and admitted he might make one change — a small one. He would get rid of the double slash “//” after the “http:” in Web addresses."
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
from Bookmarklet
Tuesday evening, I said "page" someone when I should have said "text" someone, and the youngsters stared at me with no comprehension, then laughed at me for being hopelessly out of touch with modern technology.
And I mentioned to them that back in my day, we listened to music on 8-tracks.
- Stephen Mack
Furthermore, as a youngster, I was required to walk to school in my shorts in the snow.
- Stephen Mack
Additionally, the bus cost ten cents to ride.
- Stephen Mack
And soda from a machine was a nickel.
- Stephen Mack
Did you show them dusty pictures of a beeper from a long forgotten hardcopy of Encyclopedia Britannica? I sense the basis for a new Dan Brown novel.
- Mark Trapp
Mark -- NO BUT I SHOULD HAVE. I'm shouting because I'm hard of hearing.
- Stephen Mack
When I was in high school, I typed up my essays on a typewriter.
- Stephen Mack
And in college, I used an Apple II+ and a dot matrix printer. (Freshman year, anyway. I later switched to a 286.)
- Stephen Mack
We had this wonderful technology for getting hold of people in real-time when you were out on the road. We called it the "pay phone."
- Stephen Mack
*LOL* Your so cute Stephen. Sometime (when Kevin finds it again) You should come over and see iPod museum and his early Palm Pilots! Their brick like nature will be very nostalgic! ;)
- Rachel Lea Fox
Thank you, Rachel, I will. Of course, as a kid, the museums I went to had this stuff inside that was called "art."
- Stephen Mack
Back in the day, pagers were only used by doctors or dope dealers
- Rodfather
But the doctors didn't make house calls. And the gas station attendants didn't pump gas or clean my windshields. Those are myths my grandfather made up, I think.
- Stephen Mack
art museum... you mean like my photoblog? ;-b
- Rachel Lea Fox
Rodfather, true. Although even ten years ago when I started at TiVo, most of us who were on-call carried pagers. Mine was a "1.5-way pager" -- I could reply with "yes" or "no" or about a dozen canned responses. I must have had one because I must have been a doctor. I don't remember.
- Stephen Mack
The canned responses did NOT include ones I frequently needed, such as "pull out the plug it's on fire" or "kill it with a stake."
- Stephen Mack
Rachel, yes, art museums had photographs. Developed on film in a dark room and featuring close-ups of elbows and shiny buttons, or black-and-white depictions of Half Dome. Little has changed in that regard, actually.
- Stephen Mack
I think I got distracted from my original point.
- Stephen Mack
My point is, if you hear your grandfather say "page your mother to tell her the bikes are half price" please just take it as written that he means "text your mother."
- Stephen Mack
I want to HAHAHA! all over again now :D
- WorldofHiglet
Thank you. All: Please continue on with your busy day now, which is filled with countless miracles of technology and advanced societal development that, had I been aware of them twenty years ago, would have caused my brain to dissolve into a liquid gel of the type we currently use as packing foam.
- Stephen Mack
Yeah, I'm sure communicating with other people online would have blown up people's heads in 1989.
- Cristo
Is that what 'Scanners" was all about then?
- WorldofHiglet
I'm going to start calling you Gramps now Stephen!
- Rachel Lea Fox
I SAW MY FIRST SMILEY IN 1989 AND IT WAS ONLINE FROM SANTA CRUZ. WE USED A 1200 BAUD MODEM TO CONNECT TO UCSC'S NETWORK AND READ IT IN UCSC.GENERAL. BUT MY KEYBOARD COULD ONLY TYPE IN ALL-CAPS. IN MEMORY OF THAT THIS COMMENT IS ALSO IN ALL-CAPS, SORRY IN ADVANCE. SIGNED, GRAMPS. WAIT, IS IT PROPER ETIQUETTE TO SIGN YOUR COMMENTS?
- Stephen Mack
That's funny. I wrote an interactive talk program in C in 1985, and my keyboard handled lowercase really well.
- Cristo
YOU PROBABLY HAD A REAL COMPUTER AND NOT THE APPLE II+ I WAS USING IN 1984 WHICH IS WHAT I SHOULD HAVE PUT AS THE YEAR INSTEAD OF 1989.
- Stephen Mack
So isn't it okay to say "page" when you mean "text"? C'mon, it's very similar.
- Stephen Mack
Yeah, I'm not sure it was a real computer. It was an MV8000 from Data General. The native text editor was so bad, I had to write my own as my first project.
- Cristo
Yeah well I saw WarGames and liked it in a non-ironic manner. So I'm more 80s elite than all of you combined.
- Mark Trapp
Mark, those two sentences don't belong together.
- Cristo
Sorry, I can't hear you over my Duran Duran.
- Mark Trapp
Normally at this point, we get into a shouting match about who used the oldest computer, and try to compete about who's the biggest dinosaur.
- Stephen Mack
The escalation path, for example, might be a mention of 3.5" floppy disks, and then 5.25" floppy disks, and then 8" floppy disks, and then cassette tape drives, and then someone will post a picture of punch cards they still keep in their desk.
- Stephen Mack
But then even that old-timer will get outdone by a 68-year-old IBM middle manager who will link to an article showing him programming a satellite using toggle switches.
- Stephen Mack
We could go for esotericism and I could start with saying I actively used SyQuest for a number of years, but someone's going to come in with some other esoteric format like blinking lights attached to a 2x4 or something.
- Mark Trapp
Ah man, the blinking light 2x4s, those were the days. You really had to know your stuff.
- Stephen Mack
Today's kids programming a weather doo-dad in Oberon that makes up a 133 meg download. You know how many 2x4s we'd need for that? A quadtrillion.
- Stephen Mack
More lumber than existed on the earth at the time.
- Stephen Mack
It'd be a very exclusive FF-meme: "____, who got his ass kicked by Brigadier General Chuck Yeager"
- Stephen Mack
And -- just maybe -- it would be the first (and probably last) FF-meme you participated in.
- Stephen Mack
Yeah, probably. Although I might have participated in the 25 things I hate about you meme. :)
- Cristo
Oooh, link? I missed it. (Your entry, that is.)
- Stephen Mack
I wonder when doctors will actually adopt SMS instead of using pagers.
- Victor Ganata
Victor, the thing is, the pager I carried from 1999 to about 2004 was 100% reliable. I never missed a single page. Even when it had run-down batteries, the page was eventually delivered. But I've missed texts from time to time. So reliability-wise I understand why doctors (and drug dealers?) still use them.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, yeah, I guess that's true. I never worried about missing a page the way I worry about missing a call on my cel, or missing a text message. I guess the real question is, when will SMS be as reliable as text paging?
- Victor Ganata
I have to agree. IM is free (with your data plan). SMS costs are absurd. Market forces will prevail. SMS's only chance is if the carriers compete on price and finally stop overcharging.
- Stephen Mack
SyQuest? I had (still have) several of those.. Ah the hard head crash... How about this: http://computerlab.tripod.com/core_cl... Anyone ever had to remagnitize a section of core memory? Me either. :)
- Ken Gidley
More specifically, will a cel phone signal ever be able to penetrate into the basement of hospital like a pager signal can?
- Victor Ganata
Victor, yes. But the Singularity will occur first.
- Cristo
"If you are looking for a non-bloated software that doesn’t nag you at anytime, try Security Essentials – it’s a new anti-virus and anti-malware program from Microsoft that is lightweight and absolutely free as long as you are running a genuine copy of Windows XP, Vista or Windows 7 on your computers."
- John E. Bredehoft
After multiple attempts at getting my mom's laptop virus free using other apps, I finally installed Security Essentials. Had to cycle through twice to get rid of them all, but her machine is now virus-free and no longer sucking in new viruses at a record pace (the new pace is 0).
- Craig Eddy
0's a good pace. I have the (formerly) paid version of Microsoft anti-virus on an old laptopo that my father in law lent me. I don't have any true comparison between that and the Norton we use on our main computer.
- John E. Bredehoft
I think dragons are eternal. There was Dragonheart, Eragon, and now the upcoming Hobbit movie. Whatever happened to the Dragonriders of Pern movie that was supposed to come out?
- Victor Ganata
Werewolves could go some awesome places. And OMG you have to post updates if you find out about Pern stuff! <3 The Last Unicorn was supposed to be made live-action but it's seemed to have fallen through. :(
- Heather
Peter S. Beagle has an ongoing lawsuit with the company that produced The Last Unicorn animated film (as an aside, some of the animators actually eventually ended up working for Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli) I think this pretty much deep-sixed the live action movie. It would've been awesome to see Christopher Lee reprise his role as King Haggard.
- Victor Ganata
Really? I don't think wizards are anywhere near as overdone as vampires are.
- Spidra Webster
I dunno, I remember when Harry Potter first came out how people who had never read fantasy in their entire lives were totally raving about it. And even now, that's how Twilight fans have been trying to sell that series to me: like Harry Potter except with vampires instead of wizards.
- Victor Ganata
It's weird to see it as a 'mainstream co-opt' when these tropes have blossomed because a lot of kids (and adults) started reading books by previously obscure writers. Once they gained a huge following they were made in to movies and set the stage for a plethora of imitators seeking to cash in on the craze, but that shouldn't be confused with the mainstream 'co-opting' anything. It's just a fan base that grew organically to be very, very large.
- Kevin Fox
That said, I think cybercowboys are next.
- Kevin Fox
OOC, is Fox doing anything about pushing Buffy DVDs to the Twilight fanbase?
- Andrew C
Kevin, yeah, I guess I see the distinction you're making. The co-opting is more in regards to the vampire movies and books that have been coming out post-Twilight.
- Victor Ganata
Yeah, but I'm serious about the cybercowboys thing.
- Kevin Fox
@Kevin - the only cyber cowboys I know of are from the (mostly forgotten) 80s cartoon "Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers". Which I kinda want to watch again, but also don't, in case it ruins old memories.
- Andrew C
I dunno. Check out the trends for the last three years. Sure 'cyber' is a dying term, but notice how its spikes coincide with spikes for 'cowboys': http://www.google.com/trends...
- Kevin Fox
Definitely sexy space babes... it is written...
- Fossil Huntress
Why are so many Indonesians searching for the word "cyber"? Kevin's chart is just weird.
- Stephen Mack
I know "cyber" is still used commonly in the Philippines.
- Victor Ganata
Why not start making horror movies about banks?
- Uncle CW™
Social media experts. Those cats are scary.
- Steven Perez
Social media expert werewolf teen romances? That does sound pretty damn scary.
- Victor Ganata
werewolves..especially with this new Twilight movie = the girls will love Jacob and that kid..what is his name? he's on the cover of Teen Vogue.
- Anna Lynn M.
I was wrong, by the way. Ninjas are next. They're making a comeback, but you'd never see it coming.
- Kevin Fox
comeback? Ninjas have been delivering my copies of "Cheekbone" magazine for years
- Bren -- feeling merry
Why can't there be a whole Anne Ramsey genre. "Throw Momma from the Train" and "Goonies" alone were proof enough (sadly, it can't be because she's the late Anne Ramsey).
- Micah Wittman
@Micah, I would totally play that. Would the whole game be slapping Danny Devito and Billy Crystal?
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Now now, we can't be stealing the very shtick that's always put bread on their tables :P
- Micah Wittman
Seriously, it's gonna be cryptozoological creatures. Starting with the Yeti.
- Slappy Line
Grant the FDA the authority to require that newly approved drugs have a special symbol on their labels to help increase public awareness that they are new, and limit direct-to-consumer (DTC) advertising for the first 2 years after approval.
- Victor Ganata
OK, so there are about ninety episodes of House, M.D. The incidence of lupus is somewhere between 0.5% and 1%. I know statistics don't really work this way, but I can't help thinking we should've seen a case of lupus by now.
Let me tell you, right now the man who is our President is probably our country and the worlds best hope for American progress on a number of fronts in a generation.
- Joe
He stood firm on a public option and came out fighting.
- Joe
Every time I see this one, I can hear his voice saying it. Not that I think he'd ever drop an F-bomb in public, but I can still hear it.
- Ladybug Heather
I think it's hard for Obama supporters to say he stomped out the lies, when I think many have no idea about the facts of the bill. Just because he reads well from his teleprompter doesn't mean he is telling the truth. He is a politician you know.
- Spencer
Spencer...I have read through the proposed bill. There are no death panels, it specifically says no coverage for those here illegally, and specifically says it won't touch other programs like Medicare for funding. Those were the main lies he "stomped", right? So while people who haven't read through the bill might be unjustified in saying he "stomped out the lies", they aren't incorrect (they are just correct accidentally).
- Neal Jansons
If you can't afford to buy a car or computer, you might be horribly inconvenienced, but you'll live. If you can't afford the ambulance to the ER so the cardiologists can take you to the cath lab and open up your LAD because you're having an acute MI, and you have to cough up the money before they take you, there's a good chance you won't live.
"I don’t want to sound like a hippy-dippy free markets advocate. But if customers don’t like your product, the last thing you really want them doing is sticking around and bad-mouthing you to everyone they know. If you want to compete in the market, you should not be afraid to let your products win on their merits, on their price, and on their differentiation. If you have to instead to a backroom deal that makes you the default, and there are no other options, maybe you’ve got a lot more work to do in the R&D space instead of in BD."
- Keith - @tsudo
from Bookmarklet
The first shot could be titled 'When Transformers go wrong'
- Threepwood
I'm sorry, but letting three male teenagers "test drive" a car like this without keeping their nuts in a directly linked "more speed=more squeeze" vise is just plain stupid. Undeveloped pre-frontal cortex equals limited appreciation for potential consequences...
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Must say, that the '10 Mustang is extremely enjoyable and the steering is quite good. I just took one for a test drive at work the other day. EDIT: I'm a teenager and I don't think I would have enjoyed a vise like that.
- Jimminy Fuller
They stayed with OS 7 for almost a decade...might as well stay with OS X for another.
- Alex Scoble
Wow. 10.0 was released eight years ago. I can't believe the decade is almost up. At the rate they're going, I guess they won't release 10.9 until at least 2015. But after that, will they go to 10.10, then?
- Victor Ganata
Consistent though. :-) Unlike, say, 95, 98, Me, 2000, XP, Vista, 7. Although I have to say that they all have a unique brand ;p
- Andy Bold
Actually, shouldn't Windows 7 *actually* be Windows 11? Going back from 95 we have NT, which was 4.x, then 3.x, which makes 95 == 5.
- Andy Bold
Windows 95's actual version number was 4 as well. They didn't bump the major version number until Win 2k, but XP was also still version 5. I understand that technically, Windows 7 will have a major version number of 6, just like Vista, which is extraordinarily confusing.
- Victor Ganata
I like that in friendfeed reposting isn't necessary. If I see something I like, I "Like" it and then all my friends (except for the "Ur doing it wrong" crowd who have FOAF turned off) see it. That's way better than Twitter.
I'm doing it wrong and am happy that way. I reshare to reach Facebook and MySpace friends and other outlets for my feed.
- xero
FWIW- I have FoaF turned off and, from my perspective, that has saved me from seeing Alex's 42,000 likes. I may as well view the public timeline. But if you have something he REALLY want even us wrong-doers to see, all you gotta do is hit the handy dandy "Share" link.
- Paul Reynolds
Yeah, I'll never re-share something unless it's a link to a lame site like Digg
- Alex Scoble
from IM
But I do agree with your overall point that FriendFeed is way better for sharing other people's stuff and aggregating everyone's conversation around that item (unless you Re-share, which could be fixed with some simple UI changes)
- Paul Reynolds
And you don't turn off FOAF through settings. You first hide a friend of a friend thread in your feed, click More and then select hide all friend of a friend threads.
- Alex Scoble
Thanks Alex... Found it and didnt turn it off. But I am a little smarter than I was now.
- Cody Heitschmidt
LOL "Your doing it wrong!" LOL! Love it. YDIW people on FF... yes.. that is the new name for the whiny bitches.
- Uncle CW™
What I hate is when people tell me how to use Twitter. Um, look at how many updates I have, I've been using it for a long time. I know how to draw in a crowd.
- Patrick
from twhirl
Yep. RT and @Replies are user hacks to get Twitter to do what FF does natively...
- Tom Horn
Totally with you on this. It's the killer feature of FF. Also like feedly integration with Google Reader for this purpose, it can tell you if it's already been shared on FF even if they aren't already friends or FOAF, and you can like it there versus creating more instances of the same share.
- Bill Kinney
You'd think that'd make things easier to explain, but then there's the whole "they grow all our food" thing that's going on. Seriously, who thought growing all our food in the desert was a good idea?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I'm wondering if Mark is referring to the state's budget woes more than agricultural issues. Because the central valley is hardly desert and that's where the bulk of the food is grown. And yeah, it's cool and slightly unnerving (at least it should be to the rest of us) that 50% of the food we eat in the US comes from California.
- Alex Scoble
We've just run out of places to steal water from.
- Victor Ganata
Or at least that's the statistic that I've always heard.
- Alex Scoble
I'm not sure if Mark is being literal or metaphoric, but, yeah, we really are running out of water, too. Mandatory rationing is in effect in So Cal. The Central Valley, S.F., and L.A. get their water pretty much from the same place--the Sierras--so I guess the situation is a little worrisome, particularly in the long term if the lack of precipitation keeps up.
- Victor Ganata
When I first moved here in 1983, I couldn't figure out why all the lawns had pre-installed sprinkler systems. Slowly it dawned on me.
- John E. Bredehoft
There are some small scale desalination projects, but my understanding is that, so far, it's pretty expensive. I'm not sure we're ready to pay for water at the same price as gasoline, but maybe that day will come sooner than we think.
- Victor Ganata
Latest number I remember reading (although I can not remember where...) was $0.65 a gallon. I suspect that is near what filtration costs now.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
So nowhere near gas prices or even bottled water, but still not cheap.
- Victor Ganata
to make things more fun, California has based it's water consumption on the post war period which was unusually wet (although still a desert) in historical terms
- RAPatton
Well, the thing is, no matter how much you wish it was different, and no matter how many aquaducts you build, SoCal is a desert. This talk of "... the worst drought since..." is balderdash.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
@Victor - I'm certainly aware of the rationing, but I don't see how it's “mandatory”.
- Anthony Citrano
@Victor - yep, I got the notices. I just don't see how it's mandatory.
- Anthony Citrano
I guess in the sense that everyone serviced by the DWP has been assigned an allotment, and if you go over, you get charged a penalty, no exceptions? But I guess it's not strictly compulsory since you don't have to conserve if you can afford it.
- Victor Ganata
Mark: That was my biggest complaint when I lived out in Orange County. Hell, you didn't even have to drive that far out to find the desert, yet people honestly thought that golf courses and exotic flowers were a good idea. I guess, if you're thieving your water from your northern neighbors, then why would you care about encroaching desert? *facepalm*
- Steven Perez
There are days I just wanna stop & rest like that. Can you imagine if everyone did that when the urge hit them? hahaha.
- Bonita Garrabrant
My mother one time lost me in the house. Couldn't find me anywhere. Panicked. Found me sleeping on a bookshelf.
- Akiva Moskovitz
i used to sleep in cabinets, akiva, same thing, my mom would panic and then find me hidden in a drawer of an armoir or under the sink. strange
- Melissa Maskevich
Just couldn't play another second.... Aw.
- Kay Designer
never wake a sleeping child, unless it is an emergency, or you are running late for school.
- Nathan Eckenrode
"Chrysler Group announced Monday that it is restarting a factory, after shutting down all of its manufacturing for nearly seven weeks following the bankruptcy of Chrysler LLC. Chrysler Group is the new company that emerged last week with most of Chrysler's assets and a new ownership structure. The first plant to reopen is the one that makes the Dodge Viper sports car."
- imabonehead
from Bookmarklet
The new Priuses are in. I got one of the first three that got into this dealer (Marin Toyota). I test drove it. Tons of geek toys. The lane keep assist is a trip (uses a camera to keep you in the lane and wakes you up with an alarm if you go out of bounds).
- Robert Scoble
such mixed feelings robert - happy for you to get something new that you are excited about, but bummed that you bought a new car instead of a used one... course I still want a ride. :)
- Jeremy Toeman
SO jeals! ^_^ drove a 2008 prius not too long ago and was pleasantly surprised: a great car ~ congrats!
- Kayce Maisel
heads up, the batteries in that vehicle do a tremendous amount of harm to the environment when it comes time to dispose of them & the amount that you save at the pump is also going to end up going towards the cost of replacement batteries at a future date, you should have really purchased a Jetta TDI they get around the same milage and you have to deal with fewer downfalls & you can even run biodiesel in if you like
- Dave T
from IM
WOW... after that comment, I could just about write anything here :)
- Fred Garrett
you don't plan to use the "lane keep assist" to help you do emails on your iphone do you?
- Marcel LeBrun
Solar panels FTW! My next car after my current lease is up with be a hybrid. I'm sure we'll make great strides in hybrid and battery technology in the next 2 years.
- Alex Knight
@Dave T Volkswagens are known to be horribly unreliable cars, while Toyotas (including the Prius) have proven reliability.
- Ben Kessler
Dave: we better learn to deal with recycling batteries.
- Robert Scoble
What about nuclear powered fuel cells for vehicles?
- Alex Knight
The battery issue is such a myth. They know exactly how to recycle the batteries in to new ones.
- Alex Scoble
Does anyone know if the 2010 Prius has improved suspension?
- Alex Knight
Does the lane keep assist, keep the new one out of the fast lane?
- Fred Garrett
Robert, you said the solar panel wasn't available on the top model? What model is it available on?
- Alex Knight
Alex: yes, improved definitely but it is no BMW.
- Robert Scoble
Well that much is obvious. As long as it's more interesting to drive. The old ones are pretty squishy.
- Alex Knight
A wind powered turbine that spins and creates reusable energy to power things in your car would be cool. Could mount it in front facing vents sucking in mass amounts of air when you drive.
- Alex Knight
Looks great. Now you just need to lower it and change the rims :P
- Arnold Aranez
Lowering the car will improve handling, but may affect fuel economy.
- Alex Knight
Alex: the solar roof is available on some of the top models but not on ones with the advanced technology package.
- Robert Scoble
It's a nice car with nice gadgets, but I just can't get excited about them.
- Mo Kargas
I'm jealous, mine's still on order - I probably won't get mine for at least another month. I have driven it and I agree: it definitely drives better than a Gen2.
- Paul Wilcox
Mo: gas prices are going up again. Makes me more excited. It is no Camaro in the looks department.
- Robert Scoble
That sounds like a car for me: "wakes you up with an alarm if you go out of bounds", 'cuz I'm always sleeping while I'm driving. No reazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
- Robert J Taylor
@Robert Yeah I know and I can see I'll have to buy one soon myself, I just feel Toyota has descended into a 'whitegoods' era of totally unexciting vehicles/appliances. Great at being just cars, but no passion/excitement or style for me. I quite liked the Supra, wouldn't mind one of those as a hybrid
- Mo Kargas
Re: a few comments about evils of the battery... absolutely untrue, those batteris are 98% recyclable just like regular 12V battery, they are not dumped. Looks like many people still need to get educated. I'll keep my 2005 Insight 2-door (65 mpg) until it drops dead.
- Deborah Strickland
Solar panels aren't part of the *advanced technology package*?
- chad calease
Yeah, several of my parent's houses ago, it was a 70s vintage house with solar panels... so I guess you gotta get the "old skool" package to get solar panels.
- Wirehead
Congrats Robert! Can't wait to hear more about the car. It looks like a sweet ride!
- Michael Bazzoni
chad: no, the sun roof can't be put on cars with the advanced technology package. Only so much can be put into these things, I guess.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I don't think that alarm is there to make it okay to sleep while driving. Although knowing you and your sleep schedule that may be a good thing :)
- Jesse Stay
My 2002 Prius gets 44 mpg steady everywhere, The TDI site claims 30-41. And the new Priuses get more like 50. They are great cars, if utterly unflashy.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Nice, but I pegged you for a Tesla Model S guy ;)
- dougcoleman
Cool car! Recently bought a Toyota as well, but the Yaris maxed out with gadet as well - Loving every minute of it
- Asgeir
I want one. Those and the Nissan Cube Mobile Device are made for geeks, by geeks.
- Danny Minick
from BuddyFeed
What dougcoleman says. A Tesla would have made this thread a lot more interesting. Prius? Yawn.
- Gilbert Harding
Prius is Latin for “to go before,” suggesting it is a predecessor of cars to come.:-)
- John Brazel
You learn something new each day..............
- Kevin J Hatton
A Prius will be my next car, I'm excited by the fact that it's enjoyable to see how much gas you can save. Everyone I talk to says it's fun, trying to get the most out of a gallon of gas!
- Tdubya
In 2020 -people will look back at the Prius like a bad 80's fad and laugh. Remember when? ha ha ha.. People drive the Prius because they want to be seen driving a Prius. Why did Honda switch from a civic hybrid to a Prius clone? Because they couldn't sell the civic because it didn't look like a hybrid. Nobody want to drive a hybrid if other people don't know they are driving a hybrid
- gfurry
gfurry Does the hybird Lexus's look like a "typical" hybrids? I don't think so :) haha
- Asgeir
I'd rather have the Honda, sorry. That is if I were going to ever think of purchasing a car like this, which I probably won't. Talk about trendy righteousness!
- Andy
Robert: Great Car! It has very similar style with the new Tesla Model S Coupe which is not even available until late 2011.
- Garin Kilpatrick
gfurry: we also own a Highlander Hybrid. It doesn't look like a Prius. So there.
- Robert Scoble
I'd totally agree with you, gfurry, if not for the fact that the numbers don't back it up. 40% or so of all hybrid owners drive hybrids that don't look like hybrids: http://www.hybridcars.com/news...
- Ken Sheppardson
@Ben Kessler: Strangely the only VW's with a bad rep are the ones in the US. VW and especially diesels have a amazing record in Europe. I have an Audi [same group/mechanics] A3 (diesel) that has only ever had standard servicing and it's coming up to 190,000 miles and still runs like a dream getting me 45+ mpg. Do US VW's get put together in the US? Maybe that's the difference.
- 1x29
I hate my '03 Jetta. I think it came from the Mexico plant. Trunk latch busted (fixed), arm rest compartment busted twice (didn't bother fixing it the second time). A/C borked (took my '92 Camry 10 years before the A/C died, Jetta was 6). But most of my frustration should be on the dealership 'cause they didn't fix an electrical problem until innumerable times of towing the car in due to battery drain. And congrats Robert! Nifty car and environmental conscious! Someday the Prius will look like a sportscar.
- Arlan Koizumi
aww i thought you were going to wait for that tesla sedan
- Paul Stamatiou
So, what are the top 5 geek toys on this car (in addition to the lane keep assist)?
- Paola Bonomo
Brian: yup! Louis just left our house in his new BMW.
- Robert Scoble
Paola: my favorite thing so far is the cruise control. My iPhone's contacts all imported, though. The parking and lane assist features are cool. LED headlights. Satellite radio. Cool display is geeky.
- Robert Scoble
And here in India the corolla is the "latest" car. I envy you guys!
- Venu Vedam
from Nambu