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My $20 iPod watch
Michael Lynton, Nolan, Shevonne and 2 other people liked this
Found the Nike+ Amp watch on clearance at Best Buy for $19. Now I can control my iPod with my watch!
- Pat Hawks
best buy online?
- Tracy Benham
Downside: It only works with an iPod nano with a Nike+ Sport Kit
- Pat Hawks
Tracy, no, it was at my local Best Buy.
- Pat Hawks
iphone supports nike+ with 3.0, afaik
- mjc
Yes, but the Nike+ Amp only works with iPod Touch/iPhone when it is in Nike+ mode. On the Nano it works even when you're not in the middle of a workout.
- Pat Hawks
If you don't mind spending a little more (or a lot more) money, check out the Timex I-Control
- Pat Hawks
thanks - might stop by one close & see if it is on clearance here too
- Tracy Benham
It's great for when I go biking. I can just throw the iPod in my backpack and not worry about it.
- Pat Hawks
Man, I just cannot get enough of this thing!
- Pat Hawks
Live now MacBreak Weekly with Craig Syverson, Andy Ihnatko, and Scott Bourne, http:://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
Andre Vautour, Michael Hansel, Nolan and 8 other people liked this
This looks good!
- earl wallace
Uh oh Scott's radio voice is out
- Frank Brunner
Wonder if Scott can get the word "drobo" in this show somehow hehehe. He is such a sponsor-whore
- David Lloyd
Palm Pre for $100 more than Iphone...really Palm? Really?
- Martin Barron
I do not understand why Palm is betting so much on their Pre and tanking it by putting it on SPRINT...massive Fail
- earl wallace
Well the hands-on videos look pretty good...trying to talk my girlfriend into getting a Pre so I don't have to be a guinea pig...
- Frank Brunner
AT&T, at least where I live, will let you upgrade your phone at 18 months.
- Barry Wiseman
PRE comes out June 6th http://now.sprint.com/nownetw...
- Charles
What about wireless syncing??? Hoping...
- Mike Bracco
How about a replaceable battery?
- earl wallace
Don't think we'll ever see replaceable battery
- Barry Wiseman
@earl probably not. I think apple's moving towards non-replaceable batteries in most product to save real estate (ie. 17" MBP)
- Mike Bracco
kind of funny how people freak out about things like RFID but then have apps like Loopt on their phone :)
- Mike Bracco
Loopt is Lame
- Eduardo
@Eduardo agreed. had on iphone for month and removed. having to have it open to track location is pointless
- Mike Bracco
I have a Bold and run Google Earth with Latitude. All cell phones in the last few years have gps you can not turn off so they can be followed by government and civilians with a simple hack
- earl wallace
Any thoughts on more than one iPhone form factor?
- Mike Bracco
Latitude w/ Google Maps kills your battery. The GPS is running all the time for updates. I had to turn it off otherwise I couldnt get through the day with my BB.
- William Kapes
William Kapes- Do you think turning off the GPS in the BB basic settings has the same effect? If it does I am going to do it.
- earl wallace
I've wasted thousands on my iPhone it's not even funny.
- Eduardo
that's because windows people don't have DVR's and are the only one's watching the commercials :)
- Mike Bracco
latitude without gps is pretty useless. I just turned off latitude and keep using the gps with google maps.
- William Kapes
cool link - evolution of Apple.com http://mac.appstorm.net/roundup...
- Mike Bracco
My pick of the week iPhone app G.I. Penguin fun and useful http://bit.ly/TtmER
- Xavier James
Notice how the only time Apple ever has someone besides "Mac" and "PC" in their commercials it is a white woman? Weird.
- jccalhoun
I'm a megan is Hot! lol
- Eduardo
NYT web ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Brian W
Microsoft still doesn't get it.. raising prices of OS to PC manufacturers... http://www.electronista.com/article...
- Barry Wiseman
Would love to hear what you guys think of the future of iTunes. Besides music, I don't see iTunes being a viable distribution platform for anything else (Movies/TV). With things like Hulu and streaming becoming more popular, how will iTunes compete to be the hub of your digital life.
- Mike Bracco
Ads? who see's ads on websites? AdBlock Plus FTW!
- William Kapes
I think if Itunes quit trying to take over all the media format playing on Windows it might work.
- earl wallace
I let advertisements play because they help pay for the web and free apps.
- earl wallace
No one would mind intrusive ads if they were all that cool.
- Justin Luey
The Apple Ads are indeed Flash - probably served by a rich-media vendor like Eyeblaster or EyeWonder. It's a special (fairly expensive) media buy to take over a site's homepage like that. Very cool stuff, though.
- Simon Abrams
how can syverson talk about things he doesn't have any knowledge of?
- Al Trenda
I still can't install the 10.5.7 update. I've tried both Software Update and the Combo update.
- Jim Erickson
Something is blocking the installation then, shouldn't be a problem
- Frank Brunner
Those adds were great at making a pretty static page jump to life. Like the newspapers in the Harry Potter movies.
- Stan Augustyniewicz
I keep getting a "Can't run preinstall script for 1057ComboUpdate" or something like that.
- Jim Erickson
Leo, new push app for developers "AP" to test push. works well
- Don Bonaddio
@Frank, funny enough, my Hackintosh updated no problem. Its my MBP that's giving me issues.
- Jim Erickson
10.5.7 has issues. See here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread...
- Vinay Y S
Here's the error message I keep getting. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Jim Erickson
Haven't noticed any extra battery life on my standard Macbook at all
- Frank Brunner
@leo 10.5.7 upgrade has caused display issues, upgrade reboot loops etc.
- Vinay Y S
who says netbooks are low quality?
- Al Trenda
Andy uses everything, can see benefits of all, still prefers Macs
- Al Trenda
The only thing worse than a tease, is talking about whether to do a tease. LOL
- Donald Forth
Maybe you should start teasing the tease Leo.
- Matthew
Andy's pick a couple months back - "This I Believe" was one of the best audiobooks I have ever listened to - iTunes link http://bit.ly/PWqDL . Audible link http://bit.ly/EHKnC
- Mike Bracco
You could have a "Take over TWiT" contest to see who can come up with the best TWiT homepage multimedia makeover...
- Brandt Krueger
LEO: WHAT'S DIFFERENCE between just buying in iTunes vs Audible?
- Mike Bracco
Slammer is also a really COOL system wide Mac design tool - http://site.ringce.com/product...
- Mike Bracco
what was that last pic?
- Eduardo
@Mike thanks!
- Eduardo
355PM AUDIOS WORKING VEDIOS WORKIN ON A SUNY DAY N GA
- daveccorey
Month to Month (no contract) for MiFi on Verizon site is $269.99
- Nic
Hard to watch Andy Ihnatko with all his facial hair. He looks so weird.
- Matt Pollari
Curio files are also saved as a packaged file too...No proprietary format.
- Mike Bracco
LEO: Question, can you explain advantage of subscribing to Audible vs. just buying in iTunes. (guessing that it's slightly cheaper maybe)
- Mike Bracco
Live now: Paul Thurrott's Windows Weekly 107: The Perception Hump. http://live.twit.tv Discuss now...
Hawklu, Uriah Cty, Cee and 11 other people liked this
Item 1: Windows 7 is still shipping in 2009 Here's what's happening RTM in mid-August (Microsoft has confirmed) General availability "in time for the holiday season" (according to Microsoft) General availability is mid-October according to a source First post-RC build has been given to Microsoft's partners We're still steam-rolling to the finish line Related: Windows 7 Secrets update The deadline is Monday for the first pass
- Leo Laporte
hello
- Matthew
Hello, Leo & Paul
- John Durham
hi
- Sven
hello
- knightparsifal
anime paul needs a haircut and recolouring ;) sorry paul
- Allistair Crossley
anime Paul has a butt cut
- Matthew
it's an investment paul :) hopefully
- Allistair Crossley
Nice thing is that you don't need a new laptop, Windows 7 can be installed on just about everything with reasonable specs.
- Matthew
Leo! So glad to have found you! When I first met my dear hubby, I was shocked that there was a whole channel dedicated to tech stuff (TechTV). I was more shocked to find that I loved watching with him! You and Patrick Norton made tech stuff so entertaining and educational without talking down, I loved watching and missed you guys when you went off. But here you are! Great to see you.
- Erin Weber
I use the Microsoft Comfort Curve
- Matthew
Windows 7 is holding up quite well on the four computers I have. One old Gateway that had Windows 98 installed, then a laptop with that had Vista Basic and 2 MB Pros (one Duo & one Duo 2). So far just great. Only problem trying to connect to wireless printer.
- John Durham
Here's a link to the Northgate keyboard remake. It's called the Avant Prime, made by CVT. - http://www.cvtinc.com/product...
- Filippo Dinolfo
about the UI
- Allistair Crossley
But has MS mentioned the pricing yet?
- Filippo Dinolfo
all this talk of getting it right ... it's all under the hood - they need to get the overall win 7 UI nailed and consistent across the board
- Allistair Crossley
Item 2: Office 2010 Technical Preview TechEd attendees are getting it in July There's a waiting list if you want in http://tinyurl.com/office2...
- Leo Laporte
Windows 7 works great under virtualbox on the mac and on bare metal it certainly feels much faster than vista even on a pentium dual core
- Patrick Dunn
on another topic. I went to an overview of Hyper-V yesterday. It looks like a solid product, but I'm wondering, does MS support clustering using a NAS or does it require the use of a SAN?
- Chuck Adams
i'd love to know Paul's thoughts on whether MS are missing a track not integrating the xbox avatars into win7 - great marketing tool
- Allistair Crossley
thurs 14 241 every things worling fine on tech tv 2 day howdy
- daveccorey
Office 2010 Eval application: http://tinyurl.com/office2...
- Leo Laporte
you forgot the 2010
- Matthew
true, open source show
- Allistair Crossley
Item 3: Battle of the advertisements 1) Microsoft posts new Apple Tax ad But this time its about Zune vs. iPod Filling a 120 GB iPod at iTunes store would cost $30,000 Zune Pass is $15 a month, and you get 10 free songs per month You'd have to use Zune Pass for over 166 years to spend $30,000 and let's face it, our musical tastes change over time. Do we really need to own Christopher...
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- Leo Laporte
yeah, it makes Apple look terrible
- Matthew
Leo, I love Paul, but will you ever have any guests on Windows Weekly?
- Matthew
We do from time to time, but it's Paul's show.
- Leo Laporte
ok, thx Leo
- Matthew
What is up with Xbox 360 forcing you to purchase new maps for Halo 3 for Slayer Team play? I decided to go Lone Wolf.
- John Durham
Item 4:EU fines Intel $1.45 billion for abusing monopoly power Truth is, they're probably guilty but let's be serious: AMD's processors are a joke now
- Leo Laporte
I don't know if they're "a joke". At their price point and with their overclocking abilities they make a fantastic enthusiast processor. The thing is, the reason AMD's processors aren't so good is probably because they don't have as much money as Intel, specifically because of Intel's monopolistic practices. When Intel's monopolistic practices started, AMD's processors were not a joke...
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- Andrew VanderVeen
Darn forgot about the FF room!
- earl wallace
Audible pick of the week Rick Steves' Postcards from Europe Not for everyone, I guess. I read a lot of travel writing and am a big Rick Steves fan: He pushes the notion of traveling like a temporary local, which my wife and I sort of came to on our own coincidentally. He also has a new book out, called Travel as a Political Act, which is based on a talk he gives around the country. http://www.audible.com/adbl...
- Leo Laporte
Tip of the week: Use the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor Beta to check hardware/software compatibility with Windows 7, http://www.microsoft.com/windows...
- Leo Laporte
Software of the Week: IM/communication clients Pidgin (http://www.pidgin.im/) and Digsby (http://www.digsby.com)
- Leo Laporte
So I can set up a dual boot with Win 7 on my Dad's Vista machine right? 7 isn't all or nothing is it?
- Mike Lewis
Windows 7 will shrink
- Matthew
Is the partioning tools in Disk Manager handle the disk shrink good enough?
- earl wallace
I haven't shrank them, but it looked fine when I was messing around with it. Not the best UI by any means, though.
- Matthew
Steve Gibson's "Securable" To correctly identify Intel and AMD processors that support hardware virtualization (and thus Windows Virtual PC and XP Mode). http://www.grc.com/securab...
- Leo Laporte
Free AV I use AVG Free (and NOD32, not free) but there's more out there. Comodo Internet Security - it's free and contain Comodo Firewall with Comodo Antivirus. (http://personalfirewall.comodo.com/) Avast Home Edition (Slow but free) http://www.avast.com/ Avira AntiVir Personal - Free for personal usage (http://www.free-av.com/) PC Tools AntiVirus Free Edition (http://www.pctools.com/free-an...) All from Damian Podeszwa Will need to test to see which work with Windows 7
- Leo Laporte
I have been using Pidgin for a year..its very very stable and works great with sandboxie.
- earl wallace
avira is very very good
- Allistair Crossley
avast works ok with win 7
- markrobw
lightweight and fast http://www.avira.com/en...
- Allistair Crossley
Windows 7 RC changes how AV programs talk to the Action Center. My AV solution doesn't support the changes yet. Very annoying. -_-
- Dustin Solis
I have used Avira in the past but now I use avast because Avira hates my Online Armor firewall.
- earl wallace
reat show!
- earl wallace
It's better than tv... its TWIT.tv
- Borknorg
Is the Wiki with the show notes you and Leo referred to in episode 106 open to the public or just for you guys?
- Tony
The wiki is open to all for reading and editing. http://wiki.twit.tv
- Leo Laporte
Reading people's thoughts on the replies issue. We're considering alternatives. Thanks for your feedback.
Peter Efland, Marko Saric, Guillaume Foutry and 165 other people liked this
We would be happy to provide feedback in advance next time.
- Louis Gray
IMHO you wouldn't stir such a tempest if you'd do a better job explaining things (or requesting feedback in advance—you could use Friendfeed for that and get lots of comments).
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Thank goodness you responded when you did - the frothy mob outside was about finished building the gallows!
- Brett Kelly
at the rate that #fixreplies tweets are coming down the pipe they'd be nuts to not re-think their decision and/or explanation
- Chris Heath
Nice to know you're listening!
- Michael Fidler
You should ask for people's thoughts first.
- Michael McKean
I reckon removing the feature was a good things. Has left holes though, that probably shoulda been filled first.
- Tim
Louis: sorry, until Twitter fixes how it treats early adopters I'm not giving Twitter free consulting. Only suckers would do that. We helped build Twitter and then it stabs us in the back. That's not making me willing to provide free consulting. Don't know why you'd do that.
- Robert Scoble
I volunteer to be your community manager for a month free. If I'm effective at communicating ahead of swarms like this, you can hire me and pay me retroactively. Because seriously? You really need someone to communicate with your users in real time.
- Karoli
I hope "considering alternatives" is a euphemism for "we'll have it back right stat, sorry!"
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
@scobleizer; "stabs us in the back" A bit over the top perhaps?
- Jordan Brock
Jordon: it absolutely is NOT over the top. When they recommend someone who has only been on Twitter a week or two as a recommended follower they are stabbing users who put a lot more time into the service directly in the back. I have about 1,000 days on Twitter and have put thousands of hours into the service. The way Twitter treats its users is deplorable.
- Robert Scoble
Jordan, Mr. Scoble has a propensity for the dramatic. :)
- Brett Kelly
Well since it was just a "small setting update" the simplest alternative should be to just undo the change, right?
- Ken Sheppardson
Brett: when you put thousands of hours into something and you get stabbed in the back by the owners of that thing you see how it feels.
- Robert Scoble
In the meantime, Twitter can get the celebrities to help out with its community problems. I'm not working for free and anyone who does for a company that stabs its users in the back is a sucker.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I can offer my services for free all day to Twitter. I know they won't take me up on it as they aren't interested in what I have to say and their track record proves that.
- Louis Gray
I'm really curious to know what kind of stats that were tracked to make this decision. Both @al3x and @dougw are hinting that there wasn't a significant number of people "using this feature", which I am extremely skeptical of. Would tracking the number of times I click out to a profile that I'm not following be enough? It is impossible for them to track whether I personally received value from a tweet even if I didn't click through, right?
- Lee Adkins
"The way Twitter treats its users is deplorable" What other instances justify this statement?
- Angus Burton
@ev Don't you have more important things to focus on? ie., affiliate marketers who don't disclose what they're doing, follow bots, and all of the spam and manipulation that's ruining twitter?.
- Michael Fidler
Louis, I think @ev is listening to you and other Internet celebs, but not nobodies like me.
- Vinko
Vinko, I'm no Internet celebrity, and I don't believe I've been addressed by him ever, so he has an odd way of "listening".
- Louis Gray
It's an echo chamber
- dedlam
You can't go asking your customers about every checkbox and option. Knowing which is what makes a good decision maker.
- Ryan Stanley
Sure you can, when it's a feature change that enough users expect to have. It's not disabling a checkbox, it's disabling community discovery.
- Karoli
Karoli, here here!!
- Vinko
Twitter is clearly listening, and responding quickly and in public. Now, they need to roll back the change
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Twitter knows all the geeks moved to FF. I doubt Oprah considers it a feature change.
- Ryan Stanley
wow what a conversation.
- Dustin
+1 to dedlam :)
- Jordan Brock
Twitter will "consider alternatives" until #fixreplies starts trending back down, which will happen over the next 24 hrs or so. Then they'll look to see if there's any dip in the user number or sign-up rates. There won't be, as nobody's actually willing to leave Twitter over this and new users who've accepted the default setting don't know this option was there, so this will be the last word on the subject you'll see from ev.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, that's true today and not true in the future. Twitter's continued decision to ignore user feedback and input and make arbitrary decisions will ultimately result in someone creating the next shiny thing. It happened with other services/sites and it will again.
- Karoli
Karoli: That'll happen either way.
- Ken Sheppardson
There must be a strategy around this, right? They wouldn't just arbitrarily do this. What would be the next feature they implement to make this redundant?
- Gregg Scott
Hmm. So, Ev is "Reading people's thoughts." wouldn't it be better if he talked and listened.
- Michael Markman
Michael: Thought reading must be something they're testing internally. Probably part of Twitter Pro.
- Ken Sheppardson
Could be the move that pushes more people over the FF wall. I've not considered this move until now, but now.....
- Debi Jones
@scobleizer, i thought the point of using twitter was because you want to not because you want fame and a pat on the back from evan for "helping". shame on you, that's the biggest douchery i've heard in quite some time.
- Snipergirl
Leather is an astute reader! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Snipergirl: that's BS. If you are in the media business the size of your audience allows you to build a business. Before the recommended follower list Mashable, GigaOm, and TechCrunch had smaller audiences than I did on Twitter. Now they have far bigger ones and people who don't do many tweets at all are rewarded while the rest of us suckers are left in the back of the bus. If I just...
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- Robert Scoble
The simple alternative is to make is a user preference. Even better would be groups, and then to apply said preference to groups.
- Barney Craggs
@scobleizer if it's a business to you then vote with your feet and go to a different service and stop whining about evan not paying you enough attention!
- Snipergirl
Snipergirl: that's exactly what I've done. But, sorry, I've put thousands of hours in and 904 days into Twitter. When a service treats someone who has put far less work into it better than me, I deserve to whine a little bit and anyone who says I don't isn't worth listening to. Let's put it this way. I see on LinkedIn that you are a hospital worker. What if you put in the time, do a...
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- Robert Scoble
Not entirely sure I agree with Robert, but I'll say this: it is incredibly frustrating when sites you use as intensely as Facebook and Twitter ignore the intelligent users. I won't say intelligent = early adopters, and I won't even say that it precludes the celebrities, but it is extremely tiring offering "feedback" when you're treated as just one voice. Clearly, CEO's are out of touch and don't understand us; yet, running a [sufficiently large] site by total democracy trends towards the stupid. #fixreplies
- tollie williams
Matt: I get what you're trying to say, but, here's another way to look at it. Twitter has signaled to the world that there's no way you'll ever been seen as a "top tier" person. Take me out of it. No matter how many hours you spend, no matter how popular you'll get, you won't be treated the same way as one of their personal friends and/or celebrities that they want to feature. To me that sucks. It is not a meritocracy. It's a closed society and that's everything I work against.
- Robert Scoble
The real problem is like this: Twitter was made for broadcasting and was never meant to be a convesational platform. Even friendfeed does the comments half baked. There are no comments for comments.
- Nitin Nanivadekar
The only feedback users contribute (that matters) is what they buy or use. If you don't like Twitter, leave.
- Jason Nunnelley
@Gattoo seriously, wouldn't this conversation be a LOT easier with threading and a respond feature?
- Jason Nunnelley
I don't know about meritocracies or closed societies, but i do know that the main way I find new people to follow on twitter is by seeing who the people I already follow are talking to...and if they say something of interest to me in a reply to them, I want to check that person out. If all I see are replies to people I already follow, I won't find anyone knew unless I pay much closer...
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- Shawna Benson
Gattoo: I disagree with that at least in part. The thing that always excited me about this media is that it's two way. You talk, I respond. But Twitter has biased its business toward the serving of celebrities who mostly use Twitter to broadcast and less to those who try to use it to have conversations with people. That's their right. It's my right to whine about it, though. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Shawna: yup. I think Twitter wants to push people like you to use search instead of the "@ replies" tab.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: that's a problem -- why would I search on something I don't even know to search for unless someone mentions it? Let's say person A tells person B something about daffodils and I find that interesting enough to go check out person B and start following them based on who they are, who they talk to, etc. Now, 'daffodils' aren't normally something I go randomly searching for info...
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- Shawna Benson
@scobleizer It's possible you give them far too much credit. I doubt they've any plan beyond limiting feed size.
- Jason Nunnelley
Shawna: I mean you can search for someone who uses your name. I do that on Seesmic Desktop and here on friendfeed and it regularly catches people who both use @scobleizer as well as people who just say "scoble" etc. Then I can go off and check them out, just the same as if I used the @mentions page.
- Robert Scoble
Jason: you're right. Twitter's team sure seems like they don't think things out and take the easy road most times. The recommended follower list is just one example of that. They could have done something really magical, but instead they did something half assed. They should have just hired Guy Kawasaki to do an AllTop page for it. That would have been better than what we got.
- Robert Scoble
"we've learned most people want to see when someone they follow replies to another person they follow [...] [h]owever, receiving one-sided fragments via replies sent to folks you don't follow in your timeline is undesirable" so despite what we apparently learned that people want we've decided to scrap it anyway. Interesting use of the word "learned" there.
- Mark H
The simple way of looking at it for me seems to be- when they say it's what most people are telling them to do, it's actually them telling most people what to do.
- Iain Baker
Scoble: You deserve a couple hundred thousand followers, for sure. I joined Twitter bc I read a post you wrote in '07. I hadn't looked at your follower count in a while; figured for sure you had at least been rotated in Suggest Users by now. That just makes me dislike the Suggested Users crap even more. ... The question here, I guess, is: did you do something so bad that Twitter/Ev/Jack/Biz can not forgive you?
- john erik metcalf
Scoble: Actually, even if you did, it would still be bullshit. What is this, Texas politics? Good ol' boy system. They need to figure out a better way, obviously things are getting very unequal.
- john erik metcalf
I don't know, Scoble, I'm going to take a different angle. Did Ev ever ask you to spend "thousands of hours" and 900+ days on Twitter? If so, then I'd say you've got a gripe. Otherwise, you did it voluntarily for your benefit, and frankly, Ev doesn't owe you anything; he provided a service for free, you used the hell out of it (profiting along the way, I don't doubt). It sounds like...
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- Bob M. Montgomery
I already miss what my followees are saying to other people. I've been using Tweetree for awhile now, because it would display the tweet to which my followee is replying (unless it was a protected tweet). With the new change, that aspect doesn't work, and Tweetree's entire platform is practically destroyed...
- Qrystal MqKenzie
If there's one good thing about this, it's that I can probably follow more people: I used to not follow someone if all they do is reply to people without giving context of what they're talking about. Maybe they'll make it so the visibility of @replies to people I'm not following is set on a per-user basis... which would be great, because some of my followees were SO GOOD at giving context, it's a major loss to no longer be able to see their @replies to people I don't follow!
- Qrystal MqKenzie
Qrystal: I feel the same way, except now it's a huge hassle for me to actually find all the people I should be following.
- Guan Yang
Bryan, this is about a setting being removed that was not the default setting. If you had changed the default setting to this setting you would see every tweet by the people you were following (the default was and still is to hide the @'s to people you're not following). The change is now there is no choice that setting has been removed and anyone who set that setting is now back to the default (which it seems you've always been on).
- Chris Heath
@scobleizer please clarify: are you saying that "stab in the back" = "not being on the recommended list"?
- Michael Markman
I'm still trying to figure out why Scoble is so upset. While it's noble for him to have helped pioneer the service and offer input on making it better, I don't see how that equates to Twitter somehow owing him any type of allegiance. Also, people seem to have forgotten that Twitter is an independent entity, responsible only to its investors (ultimately) and, as such, they are free to...
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- Brett Kelly
@Brett your suggestion that people go elsewhere to find a similar Twitter service is what makes the free market so interesting and exciting. While Twitter cannot be everything to everyone, every decision Twitter makes affects their future success. Look at what happened to MySpace and the rise of Facebook or Ford compared to Honda. If Twitter leaves enough room, someone else will come...
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- Damond Nollan
from email
Michael: no. He's said in the past that he would asked to be removed if he was placed on the list. Thought I can see Scoble's frustration, I agree with Brett on this one.
- Angus Burton
I haven't read this thread in its entirety, so I apologize in advance if I repeat anyone else's position. Two thoughts: 1) If the powers that be at Twitter were simply concerned with reducing the noise in our streams, why not simply change the default setting of the @ replies to not show all, while keeping the option available? Instead, they change the default behavior and remove the...
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- Phil Essing
I wonder if Ev has made it over to friendfeed to read this. I can see Robert's points. It would have been cool if more 'meritorious' tweeps were added to the recommendeds. But when the average non-techie person signs up to Twitter they probably find it more attractive to follow P-Diddy and Ellen than to follow someone they've never heard of, regardless of how much valuable content they've added to the service. That being said, Twitter needs to adjust they're listening ears.
- Jesse Newhart
Phil: that was the setting. It used to be an option to turn on all replies from friends, now there are not at reply options at all. If you had made the settings change, you're back to the default.
- Chris Heath
Jesse: I have to suggest that the average person would probably prefer to follow someone that actually shares their interests, and beliefs, likes and dislikes. Thus the whole recommended users list on any site is bullshit, and completely worthless. In the absence of a personally worthwhile recommendation, the average non-tech would probably prefer to follow typical pop stars (Brittney,...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Phil: The network I've built since 2007 was largely built exactly with the optional feature that they just removed. I don't mean to sound hysterical or overly dramatic, but the change eliminated something that was fundamental to how I used twitter. It is a free service, they can do as they see fit, it's just a less useful free service to me than it once was.
- motownmutt
All the discussion here on FF is neat... but should it be over here too/instead? http://getsatisfaction.com/twitter... (personally, I won't be asking for the 'replies' to come back but... to each their own)
- Jay Cuthrell
Jay: I find that Getsatisfaction.com never lives up to its name. I can't think of an issue I've posted or looked into where the company in question posted something. I've found several companies who reirect all their support questions to there, apparently as a convenient black hole.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Brett: Twitter being a free service and held by private investors do not make it immune to the desires of its user base which are the source of its (theoretical) future earnings potential. The less it chooses to work with its user base, and the more it makes decisions that alienate them, the more likely it it that they bail (as HUGE numbers already do withing 30,60,90days of account...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob: There are 11 members of Twitter on GetSatisfaction and < 60,000 customers in the system. So, not perfect but it is a trending area and support does read things there. As a side note, that area has over 10,000 support topics... imagine the insanity of a phone support IVR menu that would take 12 hours to delineate all those "issues" :-)
- Jay Cuthrell
Jay: No one from twitter support supports a damn thing, unless you're oprah, or brittney or aplusk. Not on getsatisfaction and not anywhere.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Jay: I have never seen anyone from any company answer any question about anything on getsatisfaction.com. This includes WAY more companies that I've looked into than twitter. I never expected anyone from twitter to answer, but I've sure as hell expected someone from ping.fm to answer when that's where their support link took me,
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Update from Twitter - "...we're making a change such that any updates beginning with @username (that are not explicitly created by clicking on the reply icon) will be seen by everyone following that account. This will bring back some serendipity and discovery and we can do this very soon" And they've started designing a new feature which will "give folks far more control over what they...
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- Sharon McPherson
Rob: I'm not trying to change your mind... just to give you an idea of the scope of what "support" would entail. Of the 11 Twitter employees on GetSatisfaction they have collectively produced 1045 responses as of the count today on their staff page.
- Jay Cuthrell
When I last looked their last response had been over three months prior to the date i was looking. I would welcome my mind being changed, but you're trying to change it on two subjects I don't have much faith in a) twitter support in general, and b) getsatisfaction's overall effectiveness. Links may change my mind.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Chris Heath: It seems I wrongly assumed that the @ replies were set to all by default, likely because I chose that setting a long time ago. Thanks. However, that truly begs the question as to why the folks at Twitter decided to remove the option.
- Phil Essing
motownmutt: Like I said, I do understand the frustration caused by this feature removal, a frustration which I share. That being said, I'm not going to lose any sleep as a result.
- Phil Essing
i'm going to say this fully knowing the fan boy charges i will open myself up to - u can see how concerned i am about that possibility (yawn) - from my perspective scoble has a valid point (Louis is also welcome to offer help to a service he values btw) - about this time last year a myriad of similar conversations were taking place here as twitter crashed MULTIPLE times a day - i cant...
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- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I am actually fine with the change because one can always go the persons page to find who he/she has replied to and it makes your page less cluttered. There is always some trade off but i am fine. I am waiting for more options from twitter in the future.
- ashish
Funny take on this - http://cli.gs/dumb
- Brian Kelley
I love the twitter product, but am growing more disgusted by the twitter management team. There is zero user input solicitation and this latest event #fixreplies is a classic mistake of product mgrs who fail to engage their customer base to get valuable feedback on the design prior to go live; instead, twitter mgmt is releasing features that are not vetting by their user base - huge...
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- Susan Beebe
waves at Evan Williams. Hey Ev!
- Thomas Hawk
Evan, perhaps with the next major functional change you might consider inviting ideas of your users; a good example of how this can work is presented by SalesForce.com: 'Idea Exchange' http://ideas.salesforce.com/ (no suprise SalesForce.com is good in gathering and using feedback from their customers; being a CRM company ;-) )
- Jeroen De Miranda
Scoble, you are a follow-blocker, and as such, you laid the groundwork for the devs putting in this nerf. There are quite a few thin-skinned A-listers who hate seeing back-talk in the @ tabs. this accommodated their wailing. It's wrong and should be put back. People who are vain enough to want to broadcast to followers have to accept that they will hear from the public, and often critically. Otherwise, go on a private AIM or FB chat.
- Prokofy Neva
Prokofy: bullshit. If you are a jerk you don't deserve to mess up my experience. You can keep commenting on your own place and I'll still see it anyway. Everyone I know searches on their last name. But I absolutely won't back down from your bullying and change my opinions. I will keep blocking people who are jerks and who are spammers. That's the only way we can keep our community from destroying itself over time. You are NOT entitled to get in my face, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
well, this whole conversation could never have happened on Twitter. I do appreciate the attention and awareness of the entire Friendfeed team, but for me the essential feature is the threaded comments.
- Peter Efland
All this talk about #bigomaha has me frustrated I won't be going. Has anyone identified the best places to watch from afar? Feeds, videos, etc.
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We'll be broadcasting podcast live there tomorrow
- andy brudtkuhl
I'm sure we'll have feeds throughout the day too... although im not sure about any "official" conference feed
- andy brudtkuhl
For example, has anybody created a FriendFeed room that will pipe all information together? :)
- Mike Templeton
Yes! Now you see the power!
- andy brudtkuhl
We added a 1-click login for Twitter users, so now it's easy for all your friends to try http://friendfeed.com
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To RT, click http://twitter.com/home... It uses OAuth, so no password is required, and it automatically finds your Twitter friends on FriendFeed! It also imports your profile and picture. Big thanks to http://friendfeed.com/bgolub for making all this happen! (also, existing users can go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends)
- Paul Buchheit
fan bloody tastic! So we can post here and Twitterers can comment away without any complaints! The only think you need to try and do is bring in comments (about a share) from twitter into here! :)
- Zee.
This is great...should help new users quite a bit.
- Mark Krynsky
Bravo!!! Very nice!
- David Cook - 2010!!!
nice
- Joe Azzara
thanks for making it effortless
- Vedran Agovic
That's fantastic! Keep it up guys!! :)
- Tad
I'm hoping this will help to entice people over here. I'd much rather talk to people via FF than Twitter
- WorldofHiglet
FrF + OAuth. Like.
- tobe
Refresh your FriendFeed to see an updated first comment from Paul, including a link to RT this news: http://twitter.com/home...
- Dan Hsiao
OK, I admit I'm dense. As an existing user will this help me find the folks I follow on Twitter?
- Laura Norvig
Cool, is it possible we could have the ability to bulk import or non-FF Twitter friends as private feeds so we can track them in FF? :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Laura, existing FriendFeed users should just go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... and click on the Twittter (and Facebook and Google) icons to find their friends. Kol, not yet, but I'm hoping to add something like that soon (improved imaginary friends).
- Paul Buchheit
Thx, Paul - guess I haven't been to that page since the launch. btw, I'm definitely coming around to the new friendfeed (colors notwithstanding).
- Laura Norvig
Great to see the standards working -OAuth fro Gogole and Twitter login on Friendfeed
- Kevin Marks
That's a great tool, Paul! Found a few from Twitter and Facebook I didn't realise were on FF...:)
- WorldofHiglet
Oh man, that is suh-weet. Works really well.
- Laura Norvig
Paul, that would be wonderful, thank you. I'm keen to use FF as a kinda Twitter client. I'd love the ability to import my group I've created on Tweetvisor too but that would additionally require exporting facilities from Tweetvisor, and from asking them they've told me it's low priority (which is fair enough).
- Kol Tregaskes
That's fantastic! Sharing with all of my not-yet-friendfeedified twitter friends. Thanks, Paul!
- Eric Johnson
This IS good. Thanks for the hard work, Benjamin Golub.
- Micah Wittman
Love that you guys are making the entry more enticing. What about refining what FriendFeed is further? Like: Twitter + conversation. For new people who don't get it and most without the time to get it, simplifying the message or experimenting further with your "first impression" on your splash page might be worth a try. Example: wouldn't it be cool to have a live conversation streaming to show just how FF has a leg up on the scattered Twitter stream?
- kilbuda
this is fabulous!!!
- Angela P.
It's so convenient for new comer like me!
- tsssimon
Just tried it and it works great.
- Iván Abrego
i have tried this too and am richer by 33 Twitter friends
- jagannath rao
Nice work. Keeps getting better around here :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
WOW! 313 new Twitter people! Amazing what the OAuth did. Amazing. That just completely Rocks!
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
That was just too easy, and found a bunch of Twitter people. I just subscribed, but I hope they participate. I'm sure I'll have to trim later.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Thanks for everything Benjamin and the others, that is really great. :)
- Alp
I was subscribed to exactly 100 of the people I follow on Twitter. Added 93 more. Funny, this is actually helping me find people I *don't* want to follow in either place.
- Laura Norvig
I'm looking forward to the "advanced imaginary friends" section which lets me as an existing FriendFeed user view all the twitter updates from people that don't use FriendFeed.
- Brian Sloane
很好，继续努力
- Kunshou（困兽）
Sweet!
- Don Strickland
Just posted this to my stream then saw this, Cool stuff Paul
- Charlie Anzman
Some time ago I spent lots of time in removing my Facebook-Friendfeed integration, and didn't succeed, Facebook refused to remove it. Since that - no info about any other my services to Facebook, ever.
- orie
Happy to hear that there will be an improved imaginary friend option!
- Jacob
The improved imaginary friend feature will be great. No need to visit Twitter much then!
- Pinksy
How do we give virtual bucks to Paul, oh I see a like button here. Off to work on the influence funnel, who cares about dollars, I want eyes ;)
- Mark Essel
FriendFeed is constantly bringing new value to the service. I'm loving it!
- Amie Gillingham
its relay cool
- Kaspar Minosiants
great idea
- andy brudtkuhl
Oh Thanks i was looking for something like this
- Asahi
Is the imaginary friends feature completely disabled for the moment? Or am I just not looking in the right place?
- Mark Jacobs
Mark: imaginary friends have been replaced by groups.
- Robert Scoble
When is OpenID coming up?
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
This feature is AWESOME :) Bravo!
- Iain Baker
I just imported 8,000 new Twitter friends. Worked MUCH BETTER than last time.
- Robert Scoble
Smart move guys. A quick way to grow FF users is to tap into the current hot properties. Can't believe other Social Networks are so slow to respond.
- Neill Adamson
Paul, is there a way to sync it so that people I no longer follow on Twitter are unfollowed on FriendFeed?
- Jorge Escobar
Great news on the advanced imaginary friends. That plus the ability to comment back to Facebook posts as easily as we reply to Twitter would be killer.
- Kevin Kuphal
Finally! :-)
- Richard Joerges
Not sure why this wasn't implemented a while ago but it's a welcome addition.
- Jason Williams
None of my Facebook contacts are on ff.
- JECO Photo
So how do existing FF members use it?
- Tiffany Monhollon
Ca passe 50 fois par jour ce truc là sur FriendFeed ! C''est pas possible d'arr^ter, j'en ai marre de le voir franchement ... ^^
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
Tiffany, existing FF members should go to http://friendfeed.com/friends... to find their Twitter, Facebook, and Gmail friends.
- Paul Buchheit
Encore ?? C'est pas possible ! ;(
- Jean-Marie Gall
from twhirl
RT'd ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Robert cannot seem to do that with groups. What I want to do: Concentrate different RSS feeds (e.g. newswires) which do not necessarily have an account in any other social network into one imaginary friend's collection of feeds.
- Mark Jacobs
Mark, "groups" (formerly "rooms") are able to import feeds just like regular users (and imaginary friends). See https://friendfeed.com/xoogle-... for example (imports the blogs of all known xoogle startups). The only thing special about imaginary friends is that they don't have usernames (or rather we assign a random 128 bit username).
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, the DM option on imaginary friends should perhaps be removed. Also, imaginary friends do not show up on the search dropdown list when you type in their name in the search box.
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul, is it possible to automatically create "imaginary friends" from twitter following list? What I would like is to read all my Twitter in FriendFeed; many of twitterers though are not on FF, so I have to create them by hand which is tedious. Also, it would be nice to allow to add them to some special list.
- Ihar Mahaniok
Ihar, see my comment up in the middle and Paul's reply. Looks like FF are working on it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Nice tool, discovered some more contacts !
- François Granger
love this guys wonderful
- Thomas Power
This must be the reason for all the new follows I've been getting over the last few days. Congrats!
- Michael Fidler
That's actually quite useful. Thank you!
- snapixel
Still would like an imaginary friend than making bunch of Groups to simulate peoples that doesn’t use FF. BTW, unlike the Facebook Connect login, when I tried logging in using Twitter, it made a new account for me on FF instead of opening my own (which also has Twitter activity added).
- Natsuki Seika
ditto to natsuki...
- Steve Austin
Wow, real nice and simply to add my Twitter friends :O
- Rosenkrieger
Good move!
- Lantrix
Is it possible to add this to a wordpress blog?
- Arturo Pelayo
@Arturo: http://wordpress.org/extend...
- Saxtus
hi me sid m new member of dis site.........
- Sidra Kanwal
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