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LIVE-FRIENDFEED REVIEW: TWILIGHT
Faraz Mullick, Jimminy Fuller, Fossil Huntress and 29 other people liked this
Ok, peeps, babby is sleeping, pizza has been consumed and vodka is on standby. Got the movie queued and ready to rock.
- Steven Perez
0:00:20 - BAMBI! WATCH OUT FOR GODZILLA!!!
- Steven Perez
dude, take it off of X4 speed!
- Jim in Real Time
One minute in, and we begin with a small, defenseless animal being eviscerated off-screen. Yep, this is going to be chock full of romance.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wait, she's gonna miss the heat of Phoenix?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Forks?!? The town is named Forks?!? In a vampire movie?!?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
5:15 - Adults using slang. My brain hurts already.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Nice truck, though.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Adults can get down with da lingo?!
- Shevonne
Sadly, no, foxy lady. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
I like the way this movie is setting up the various characters who are going to end up as pizza pockets.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I'm bookmarking this. For serious...
- Helen Sventitsky
8:40 - And in walk in the vamps. You can tell because they're the pretty ones.
- Steven Perez
from IM
9:40 - This must be the hero. He mopes most majestically.
- Steven Perez
from IM
"totally gorgeous, obviously" - yeah, in that whole Robert Smith all-life-is-pain kinda way. *gag*
- Steven Perez
from IM
this is vintage FF right here.
- Jim in Real Time
That look he's giving her? Wondering what blood type she is.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I know what he's thinking - "don'tlookatmyteeth don'tlookatmyteeth don'tlookatmyteeth don'tlookatmyteeth"
- Steven Perez
from IM
"OHGODSHE'SLOOKINGATMYTEETH!!!!" *runs away*
- Steven Perez
from IM
He mumbles so dreamily. *deep schoolgirl sigh* [/a little sarcasm]
- Steven Perez
from IM
No, creepy stalker guy, she doesn't remember you.
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Are there any cute guys?" "Well, there's this one guy who's really cute when he's all mopey ..."
- Steven Perez
from IM
Confront him. Right. Cuz that's what you do with someone you're not interested in.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wow. He disappears. Maybe he's off killing deer.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Whoops. My bad. He's off killing longshoremen, instead.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Da union ain't gonna like that.
- Steven Perez
from IM
SAFE!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Yes, ice often happens in cold weather places, little one. It's called "winter". I know, something they don't have in Arizona.
- Steven Perez
from IM
16:28 - Don't these guys ever shut up?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Here we go ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
They have an eternity to shut up
- Shevonne
"Hi, I'm Edward, and I'll be your mopey vampire hero in this movie ..."
- Steven Perez
from IM
Don't look in the microscope!!!
- Steven Perez
from IM
Eternal youth at his command, and his first conversational gambit is about the weather?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
*wondering if the microscope is supposed to be some kind of phallic symbol*
- Steven Perez
from IM
*pout pout* I'm a emo girl with permanent worried eyebrows. My lab partner is really hot but looks really pale and he can stop suvs with his hand. *pout pout*
- Josh Haley
Yep, definitely a phallic symbol.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Did these kids go to the Anakin Skywalker School of Not Really Emoting?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Did your eyes just change?" "Errrrrrr ..." *runs away*
- Steven Perez
from IM
21:15 - "OMG I'M IN LOVE WITH SUPERBOY!!!"
- Steven Perez
from IM
And he totally saved her truck, too. What a dreamboat.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And here comes smarmy vampire doctor. Must have been an off-week on the soaps.
- Steven Perez
from IM
"Your vitals look good. Mind if I check by biting your neck and draining your blood?"
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wow. Mopey and a bad liar. He's definitely the hero.
- Steven Perez
from IM
25 minutes in, and I'm wondering when Blade is going to show up and start offing the cast.
- Steven Perez
from IM
OK, I need a brain break from all this emotional turmoil. Back in ten.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Ah, the things you guys miss when I go make me some tea. I came up with this awesome alternate timeline where Blade and Buffy show up and start killing off the town, just like AVP2. Actually, that movie sucked worse, but hey, I'm only half an hour into TWILIGHT. C'mon, mopey emo kids, don't let me down!!! Suck harder than AVP2!!!
- Steven Perez
from IM
aaaaaaaand, picking it up from the hospital ...
- Steven Perez
from IM
In the greenhouse now. They're having a fight. I think. I can't tell cuz they still have the same expressions on their faces all the time.
- Steven Perez
from IM
hahaha
- Shevonne
I can't wait until you get to the "THIS IS THE SKIN OF A MONSTER!" scene. :D It's my favorite.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
Seriously, so far, this is the slowest vampire movie I've ever seen. And that includes the 1931 version of DRACULA.
- Steven Perez
from IM
This may save me from having to watch the movie.
- Katie is Frittering
I'm beginning to wonder if I accidentally got a SMALLVILLE episode by mistake ... oh, wait, there's the Superman reference.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Don't feel bad, the books move even MORE slowly. Honestly, someone needs to buy Stephenie Meyer some classes on pacing and plot-building.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
It is slow until, for just a few minutes, it's not. Then it's over. The visuals were pretty neat, though, and I enjoyed the music. Definitely wasn't worth $22.99 for a two-disc set.
- Ladybug Heather
Holy cow. I'm starting to feel that dull buzzing that indicates brain damage. Usually happens when I find myself watching some teen soap opera by mistake.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Heather: soooooooo, ... you're telling me that the one fight scene from the trailer is pretty much all the action?!? Cuz if that's true, I'm gonna reach for the KILL BILL set and review that instead. :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
rofl I KNEW IT!
- Erin @queenofspain
Erin: It was the booze! I swear!!! :D
- Steven Perez
from IM
35:00 - FINALLY! Creepy stalker guy (I think) buys it - off-screen. WTF?!? Did Nickelodeon fund this movie?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
I just watched the movie earlier today. I could have saved myself 2 hours and some change by just waiting and reading this. Oh well, live and learn. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
O. M. G. They're trying on dresses?!? Did I pick up the E! network by mistake?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Of course, the local tribe knows all about the vampires. Duh. Why do you think there are no vampires in Native American lore? CUZ THEY KILLED THEM ALL.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Lessee: doesn't like sunlight, eyes change colors, mopey whiney emo mood swings, lousy driver, ... and now telepathy. It's so obvious. Mopey Dude is a mutant. He probably blew in from the Xavier School.
- Steven Perez
from IM
SPECIAL DIET?!?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
Right, "special diet" - the Adkins diet from hell. Fill up on all the A-negative you want, but stay away from the bread!
- Steven Perez
from IM
(Steven, have you read the books? Who would be the mortal enemies of vampires?)
- Ladybug Heather
OK, now he's a stalker.
- Steven Perez
from IM
(Nope.)
- Steven Perez
from IM
(Wait ... books?!? Plural?!?!?!?)
- Steven Perez
from IM
(Four of 'em, and a fifth online somewhere.)
- Ladybug Heather
GEEZ! FINALLY! Almost an hour into the film and she finally figures it out. She's a regular Lois Lane, this one.
- Steven Perez
from IM
(FOUR?!? Are they plotted as slowly as this movie?!?)
- Steven Perez
from IM
OK, pop quiz: you've just found out that the dreamy mope in your class is a vampire. Do you (a) stock up on silver and garlic and wait to ambush him and his clan or (b) go off into the woods to interrogate him all alone? If you chose (b), then this movie is for you!
- Steven Perez
from IM
(c) Ask him to turn me into a vampire
- Shevonne
(d) wait for the Daywalker to show and save this movie.
- Steven Perez
from IM
(e) Go Buffy the Vampire Slayer on him and wait for Angel, a real vampire. haha
- Shevonne
Great. Now he's the Flash.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Wait, so now he's a sparkly unicorn?!?
- Steven Perez
from IM
He's the world's most dangerous predator?!? Now I wish that an actual Predator would show up and school his mopey ass.
- Steven Perez
from IM
OK, that's it. I give up. No mas.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Seriously, this movie hurt my brain. The dialogue must have been written by the same 7th-grade lunch table thespians that George Lucas used to write the "romantic" scenes in ATTACK OF THE CLONES. I wasn't expecting anything Whedonesque, but geez, watching this movie was like watching a CW teen drama on Ritalin.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Oy. I'm gonna go crack open that bottle of 120 proof vodka and watch a pre-1999 John Woo movie to cleanse the palate. Congratulations, LET THE RIGHT ONE IN; you're still the best vampire movie from the last 18 months.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Oh, and Leather Donut? You were right, dude: ASS.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You really reviewed this? Give me another Shiner Bock...
- Joel Robert Perez
As you can see, I only made it half-way through, but that's because I couldn't breathe because I was laughing too much. :D
- Steven Perez
Yep...that baseball scene was.......was.........WAS...................KKKKKKKHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
- Joel Robert Perez
LOVE
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I am so copying this down for posterity once they burn this joint down. :) This is the thread that kicked off the Tex-Mex Movie Reviews with Haggis.
- Steven Perez
This is a great idea >> you should hold weekly movie reviews :P
- Angelo Rodrigues
I TOTALLY SHOULD! Maybe I can find someone to do them with me! :D
- Steven Perez
Hey wait a sec.. :D (And I believe it was Donnie Darko that truly started out our reviews.)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
(917)267-9008 --Google Voice baby, Ef Ya! Thanks so much Adam. #fb
Dobromir Hadzhiev, Mitchell Tsai, Richard pancakhaus Walker and 21 other people liked this
You're welcome :)
- Adam Lasnik
Omg Adam you don't know how excited I am, I've been wanting one FOREVER since I wasn't signed up for GrandCentral...and um, sorry about the huge sign up ordeal LOL I can't wait to go home and play with it some more! I heart you, Adam Lasnik!!
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Hm, wondering if I should call whilst I'm still sober…
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
My phone number has been available to all for a very long time - no one's ever called LOL
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Yay one of us ;)
- Rodfather
Why would we call?? We all know how to find you with our phones. FFtogo! ;-)
- Lisa L. Seifert
Tempting...
- Michael McKean
Want!
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
9008 looks like the word GOOB. :)
- Louis Gray
That is SOO fitting since. I am a TOTAL goober!! Hi LG!
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
haha
- Rodfather
Damn. Still waiting for my invite.
- Bryan R. Adams
Adam, I want one, too!! :)
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Regretting not taking the 917 267 MONA, damnit!
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
917 267-GOOB
- Louis Gray
Great. More plus sexy points for me. Guy: hey, what's your number? Me: 917 267 GOOBER minus ER. ;)
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
That's kinda hot.
- Michael McKean
I love Google Voice. The only bad thing now is that whoever had my number before had LOTS of creditors calling them. Hopefully those will stop eventually.
- James Poling
from BuddyFeed
Tad and I have been using Google Voice (as Grand Central) for gosh like 2 years now! I can't imagine not having it... I didn't know we could give out invites now.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I suppose I should get on that google voice at some point. Been very curious about it. Also...probably win for drunk calling. :P
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Hmm... I don't see how to invite people! How did Adam get you one, Mona?
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Oh man, if anyone can actually invite someone, they should totally send one my way. Just sayin..
- Jon, the Beartato of '10
Adam works at Google do maybe he has special connections...?
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Sucks... wish they would let people give out invites again. I want to get a number for my son.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Sorry, just very limited invites now (and I don't have any more at present :(. I don't work on Google Voice, but I can imagine that at some point they'll offer invites more broadly. I do know they're really working very, very hard to scale the service up so they can let more people in; it's absolutely not a trendy-fake-scarcity thing, I promise!
- Adam Lasnik
I don't really get this. Do y'all have 5 phone lines you want to merge or something? I got a GC account back when but it didn't exvite me in practice. Can someone share a success story or two?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I like it because I feel good about posting it anywhere on the net, and know I can easily block numbers if I want. I also like the transcribed voice mail. And ringing me on any phone is very cool indeed. I give it out like it's a mobile number that way, and feel great that I could switch phone provifers and not worry about getting everyone my new number. AND, SMS without having to pay for it on my cell. killer.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
from PeopleBrowsr
@Scott - I share my home phone with my wife - I don't really want it ringing when I'm at work and my mother in law calls to talk to her daughter. Maybe I just don't really use phones much. I tend to prefer text-based comms.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Free SMS and transcribed voicemail sound pretty cool - I love the text-based stuff as I said. The "new number" thing I can see, even if I have been on the same cell # for 4 years.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
the other thing, Daniel, is say I have a landline, a skypein, a personal cell, and business cell. I can set up groups of people who can reach me at different phones. I could set my friends to never call my biz-cell, most biz contacts could never reach my personal cell, but some people could find me everywhere, and all of the appropriate phones for the group ring simultaneously. That's a...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I just like being able to give out my phone number to ANYONE and not worry about it ending up being used by telemarketers or spammers because as soon as someone calls I don't recognize I just have it go to voicemail. If I don't want to talk to them it becomes a spam number and I'm never bothered again. I only give out my "real" cell number to people I trust (close friends and family)....
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- Lindsay is in 20-ten
I hope they release an iphone dialing app like Grandcenter had. It was great. It let you call from your iphone (contacts, dialer pad) but route it through GC so that the caller ID was your GC number.
- Russell Holliman
Check out GV Mobile on the app store
- Roger Benningfield
An updated version of GV Mobile was just released into the app store.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
man, can't wait till we get this in the UK
- Zee.
Zee, I know we want that, too! Tons of Googlers and friends-of-Googlers outside the U.S., so even on a greedy note, Googlers want this, too :P
- Adam Lasnik
regarding the GV Mobile suggestion: that's it! thanks!
- Russell Holliman
Should I be worried that 9 times out of 10 when I comment on a FF thread, there are no further comments? Am I that offensive? Or am I just that late to the party? :-)
Iván Abrego, Kevin Whalen, Anton and 75 other people liked this
It happens a lot to me, too.
- Nine
Thread killer!! *points and throws LOLcats*
- Yolanda
We are a rare breed. We say things that just can't be followed for some reason. Thread killers unite!
- Josh Haley
Are you the Ted McGinley of friendfeed perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Alex Scoble
Joey, I thought it was my breath or something. Glad to find I am not alone. Tic Tac anyone?
- Janet
Oh, Alex. That's just downright mean!
- Nine
No! I'm the thread killer!
- Christopher Harley
There are no further comments bacause your comment was so perfect no one could bear to top it.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
We are the thread killers. Kill 1k more, and we'll let you in the room =D
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Do you ever use the word dookie in your posts?
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I notice the same phenomenon when I join a queue, 20 km long and no one seems to come behind me, obviously I was born to be last and I suspect this is the end of this thread.
- M F
Should I have ended it with "Just sayin'!"?
- Alex Scoble
exactly the same here :(
- ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
The Thread Reaper(TM)? ;)
- Tyson Key
Joey, please comment so we can close this one out. ;-)
- Sprague D
No biggie, go with m9m's theory and don't judge on comments or likes, you did your part throwing it out there. Everyone else can do with it as they wish. Additionally if a girl dumps you assume she is a lesbian.
- Steve C
Test would be is to comment on this post and see what happens..
- CW™
lol i am often a thread killer as well
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Steve C is correct.
- Christopher Harley
Sorry you guys, I'm the OG Threadkiller. In fact that name, is on my profile in several places. Because it's true. :)
- Admiral Anika
If I do it, it's usually on a day when I forget my deodorant.
- Katie is Frittering
Married With Children, AKA the guy who gets shows canceled.
- Alex Scoble
No, Brian, you have failed at killing this thread.
- Alex Scoble
Hey, I didn't say that he's actually killed every show that he's been on, but that's what they call him.
- Alex Scoble
Just pay people to respond to your comments. If you respond to my comments I will give you a DOLLAR! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
$1 please, Igor.
- Alex Scoble
Alex, send the bill to my accountant at the end of the month! ;-) I hope I do not declare Social Media bankruptcy by that time. LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Another $1 please Igor.
- Alex Scoble
Seven killed MWC (and I don't meant that abomination, 7/9).
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Seven killed what?
- Alex Scoble
But who ate one too?
- Alex Scoble
I specialize in killing threads. :)
- Morton Fox
Isn't it ironic that none of you have killed this thread and yet you are all supposed to be skilled at it?
- Alex Scoble
Now I'm curious to see who's going to kill this thread
- Manuela
Or maybe the kid on Married was named Six...
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I don't think this thread is killable.
- Alex Scoble
I mean the only non-frungible rule on friendfeed is that the residents here do the opposite of what the poster expects.
- Alex Scoble
Whaaaa?
- Holger Eilhard
You're not the only one, Josh. And I wouldn't be shocked if I kill this one. *watching and waiting*
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
You got to do better than that!
- Alex Scoble
Dammit Brian and Alex! This one is MINE!
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Not even close!
- Alex Scoble
Damn, I think I killed the thread!
- Alex Scoble
...
- WorldofHiglet
Hah, you keep dreaming.
- Alex Scoble
Just passing through again. Nothing to see, people. Move along.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Peanut butter jelly time? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Alex Scoble
Late?
- Shevonne
No, it's peanut butter kitteh time! http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Never.
- Alex Scoble
Not too.
- Todd Hoff
You're never gonna get it...not this time.
- Alex Scoble
Thanks for all the comments, folks. Let's now see if my record of thread carnage stands. :-)
- Joey Gibson
Same thing happens to me. Watch this one die. :)
- jcunwired
This is going to be the longest thread of Friendfeed's history
- Manuela
oops
- M F
I'm good at thread-killing. Let me give it a try.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Damn it, Brian! :)
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
You are all amateurs at killing threads as evidenced by this thread.
- Alex Scoble
Who will be the last one with the hot potato?
- Shawn Farner
I'm a comment killer too. We should form a club.
- ♥patricia♥
Nice try Chris, but you can't kill this thread either.
- Alex Scoble
@pea ♥ fierce as a woozle Done: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Rui Pereira
Yeah, I gotta say something...something.
- Alex Scoble
Yes, I have to say something else...
- Alex Scoble
Something else.
- Alex Scoble
So if a room was started upon my suggestion and the room never takes off, does that mean that I then become the official room killer? Cuz that might make things kind of not fun for me. :D
- ♥patricia♥
after all that, you think it
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Thumbganglings!
- Alex Scoble
Anything?
- Tyson Key
Happens to me ALL the time.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Not yet.
- Alex Scoble
First!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Don't even start with me, Mark...I'm feeling stabbity after dealing with Leather Donut.
- Alex Scoble
Gee, now I have to create a room for FF room killers ... sheshh ... :)
- Rui Pereira
Stabbity!
- Alex Scoble
I just created a Thread Killa' t-shirt for all of us on Zazzle but I don't feel like creating a marketplace or whatever the hell it is to show it to everyone - just close your eyes and picture a shirt that says Thread Killa' in an edgy font
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
@Alex, I've liked "stabbity" since the other day when Tad used/coined it. :-)
- Joey Gibson
Not in this lifetime, Brian. :) I wonder what thread in friendfeed has had the most comments...I'm sensing that this one will beat it
- Alex Scoble
yea so how does this work when the thread is stacked with people who all claim to kill threads with their comments? this has the potential to become the longest running thread in history
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I've trained for this my whole life.
- Todd Hoff
No, my brother is never rude to me.
- Alex Scoble
I have no idea, Brian...but I'm thinking we are going to find out
- Alex Scoble
I do it all the time, Chris!
- Alex Scoble
who is your brother alex?
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Just some guy with a blog...and a HUGE melon.
- Alex Scoble
I shut down threads all the time. I'm the thread stopper.
- Give 'Em DBizness
So I'm guessing you blocked him then?
- Alex Scoble
I think the point of this thread is to keep it going so that no one gets to be the ultimate thread blocker.
- Alex Scoble
I am the ultimate thread killer. Posting now to stop the madness.
- Alan Simpson
True, but Ben, however, doesn't blog...although his bar does have a myspace page http://www.myspace.com/bennyst... Which by the way owns Google if you search for Benny's Tavern.
- Alex Scoble
I am Thor, Killer of Threads, Despeaker of the Saxons, Soverign of ALL England!
- Joey Gibson
alex this guy is your brother? http://melongrowinghelp.blogspot.com/
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
No, you are just Joey.
- Alex Scoble
You confused the metaphorical large melon of Robert's brain pan, with an actual melon that can be grown in the garden.
- Alex Scoble
+1 Alex
- Tyson Key
Great googly moogly!
- Alex Scoble
OHHHHH my bad - glad you pointed that out because the photo or website accompanying my next guess would have been much weirder
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I know some FriendFeeders who comments and the thread stops. But I don't think it's you or them.
- AJ Batac
It isn't AJ either.
- Alex Scoble
Kudos to you Joey, for coming up with the most awesome method ever to generate comments.
- Alex Scoble
or you alex
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Nope. It's not Alex either. Hmmm...
- AJ Batac
You mean yet.
- Alex Scoble
this is why FF rules over Twitter in my book - you could never do this to the same effect with Retweets
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Indeed, Marco, Indeed!
- Alex Scoble
You guys will have to try killing this thread without me for a while. Time for me to head out for dinner
- Alex Scoble
Without proof, who would know?
- Alex Scoble
It would just make me start my own similar thread.
- Alex Scoble
is this conversation over?
- Noah David Simon
It should stop right here
- AJ Batac
@Alex, thanks. I never expected this many comments. @Marco, maybe this thread can serve as an example of FF's superiority over Twitter for generations to come. ;-)
- Joey Gibson
This is the thread that never ends. It just goes on and on my friends . . .
- B. Hatin
@Chris, delete the thread? Are you kidding? This thread is my ticket to becoming an FF GOD!!! I fully expect an invitation to next week's FFUndercats because of it (and my)) awesomeness. ;-)
- Joey Gibson
Really?
- AJ Batac
@Chris, No way, baby. Because of this thread, I'm Da Man, Dawg.
- Joey Gibson
I've never been a very good negotiator. OK, let's try this again. How much you wanna pay me?
- Joey Gibson
u know it just occurred to me that we are looking at this all wrong - the glass half full approach would lead us to believe that many of our comments are crafted so beautifully that no one else could add anything else no matter how badly they wanted
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
*burp*
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
(_|_)
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Are those boobs, Bec?
- Joey Gibson
Bored now. Hide.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Joey: Nah, it's a bum :D
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
No. No it isn't.
- WorldofHiglet
My goodness... This should be the end of it. ;)
- AJ Batac
Not quite, AJ. :-)
- Kevykev
almost
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Oh look, I already killed one thread tonight. Let's make this #2. I prefer even numbers, anyway.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
I thought it was this: (_(_) (_|_) (_)_)
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Wha?? Damn, I just stumbled in here to grab a beer. How did all you people get in my room?
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Thread killer, checking in. Will this be the last comment?
- Mike Doeff
Nope
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Mike, that's just begging for a No.
- ♥patricia♥
No, I hardly ever get a comment either
- Ginger Kenney
This thread is obviously not dead yet *hits it over the head with a cudgel*
- Alex Scoble
Good. Went to Applebee's and had the quesadilla burger...was good.
- Alex Scoble
Just ain't dying huh?
- Katie is Frittering
I've fallen! And I can't get back up!
- imabonehead
Downtown is too much of a pain in the ass, Chris...plus a lot more expensive.
- Alex Scoble
you are not offensive enough. trust me
- Noah David Simon
First I was afraid. I was petrified. Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side. But I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong. I grew strong. I learned how to carry on...
- Anthony K. Valley ©
I am the ultimate thread killer
- George Smith
I'm pretty sure this isn't the random lyrics room, Anthony, hehe.
- Alex Scoble
Nope. It just means you are succinct.
- Steven Perez
I just wanted a burger, Chris. :)
- Alex Scoble
Isn't there some Mom n' Pop near there? I always find those have some combo of better food/lower price, often both.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Alex: Sorry... this thread reminded me of Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive". It's a resilient little booger.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Obviously Chris, dollar cost averaging has worked better for you than for me. :) No, Mark, I haven't seen any Mom n' Pops out here.
- Alex Scoble
Low blow, Brian, bringing up a burger that I cannot have in this area.
- Alex Scoble
lol
- Geoff Schultz
LOL. So we are so not going to let this die, right?
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
from fftogo
My dad's getting a DVR, sweet!
- Alex Scoble
I'm watching Flashpoint right now. Amy Jo Johnson is still cute after all these years since her Power Ranger days.
- imabonehead
DirecTV DVR...she was on Power Rangers? Yeah, she's pretty cute and that's a good show.
- Alex Scoble
Cuz this is thread killer, thread killer night....wooo yeah!
- Alex Scoble
Woo yeah! Shamon!
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, she was a former pink Power Ranger. http://www.imdb.com/name...
- imabonehead
Give me the $100!
- Alex Scoble
Hehe, no, I just wanted the $100.
- Alex Scoble
Hi! I almost read all the comments but can't remember what was the issue or the purpose of the thread LOL :)
- George The Writer
*gets out the eucalyptus leaves*
- Alex Scoble
What do koalas eat? Eucalyptus leaves.
- Alex Scoble
Not even, Steven? Damn you Steven Perez!
- Alex Scoble
*twiddles thumbs and toes*
- imabonehead
Well, I gotta go to bed now, but just know that I will not let this thread die tomorrow when I wake up.
- Alex Scoble
wow still going?
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Then it doesn't count. English FTW!
- Alex Scoble
Flashpoint is now over. Now watching Numb3rs.
- imabonehead
Temp is dropping! 6c in thirty minutes! woot!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
*clears throat*
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
EVERYTIME I have commented EVER the thread has stopped dead. This could be the first when it hasnt! (It would not be funny if you now all agreed to stop posting)
- laprensa66
Actually, I have just checked that. Not quite accurate, but it was certainly like that at the beginning.
- laprensa66
</thread>
- Alan Cheslow
<thread>
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Depends on who you're following. timezones and such... maybe
- Richard A.
Dead
- Nicola Quinn
This thread can't die.
- B. Hatin
I thought I was the thread killer. The temperature has cooled down to a nice cool 24 degrees C. here in up town Adelaide.
- Chris Loft
Can I join in? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Sure, Kol :-)
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Wouldn't it be nice if FF timestamped each comment in a thread? Then I could see how long ago Carmen welcomed Kol to the party.
- Joey Gibson
Joey, hover your cursor over each quote bubble. Tells you how long ago each comment was.
- Carmen - Happy 2010!
Thanks Mohomed and Carmen. I did not know that. Now, it would also be nice if FF put the Comment and Like links at both the top AND bottom of long threads...
- Joey Gibson
This is still going?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
It will probably be the thread that never ends. Or has that been said 10 times already?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Probably said more than 10 times.
- Katie is Frittering
At least.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Pfffttt...as if.
- Alex Scoble
will anyone ever get the last post?
- MicahBear78
no
- Dan Glass
There's always the possibility that you are so profound that nobody can top you, and they don't even try.
- Louis Gray
wow still going
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
LOL, it totally happens to me, too! I can shut a conversation down with a comment.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
How do you mean, Micah? Will the last post be the punchline?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
the irony of the original post.
- MicahBear78
We certainly can't let Mark get the last post. He already drives a 7 series BMW.
- Alex Scoble
I shot a thread in Reno, just to watch it die.
- Josh Haley
alex are you implying the final poster gets a car? Genius my boy, Genius - this thread will go on for years now
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
No, I'm implying that Mark doesn't need to own this bright shiny thread.
- Alex Scoble
Wait, wait, wait... Hold on... Back up the bus.... Alex doesn't own the thread; why is he making the rules?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
fight!fight!fight! Tell him how to use FriendFeed!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
this thread has a hell of a lot of comments.
- Thomas Hawk
Nothing gets by you, Thomas ;)
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
one more LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Who says I don't own this thread?
- Alex Scoble
Oh, my, god. 269 more comments??? How on earth did this happen?? I guess you guys are trying to break the record... Do the search by # of comments and you'll see if you've won.
- Kamilah Gill
Alex 1 $ please!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
mark said alex - and he makes the rules, have you seen his scowl?
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Gosh this thread is still running
- Manuela
happens to me most of the time too.. you do wonder if the internet is on at times ;)
- alphaxion
o hai, morning folks! :)
- imabonehead
OHAI!
- Alex Scoble
Can this thread make 300 comments? Yes or No?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Yes
- George Smith
I don't think so.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I mean with the 3 showing + 284 + this one = that's not too many needed. I'd say it will pick up straggling comments.
- George Smith
The more you interact htte better
- Roberto Bonini
Agreed, Roberto, indeed.
- Alex Scoble
so, this thing is still going strong, eh? ;)
- Holger Eilhard
No, it is indeed dead. We are just awaiting the results of the autopsy to see who killed it.
- Alex Scoble
ping
- Todd Hoff
Pong!
- Alex Scoble
What does it say about the person that comments last? Are they the true comment thread killer? (Now I'm nervous it might be me....that would be an interesting plot twist. You never expect that you're the killer)
- George Smith
In this thread? It probably says they are suffering from severe OCD.
- Alex Scoble
Am not.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Wow...did I finally kill it?
- Alex Scoble
No - it was the dramatic pause like in horror movies. Everyone thinks it's dead and relax for a moment, only to have the killer come back to life....
- George Smith
and comment 300 FTW
- George Smith
um no....
- kartik vaithyanathan
TO INFINITY AND BEYOND!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Hehe no one wants to not comment on this thread.
- Roberto Bonini
Everybody (including me) wants to have the last word.
- Brian Sullivan
Word.
- Alex Scoble
BTW http://friendfeed.com/e... seems to be the post with the most comments.
- Brian Sullivan
We're not going to take it, NO! We ain't going to take it. We're not going to take it...anymooooooore!
- Alex Scoble
But this one is in the top 10.
- Brian Sullivan
It's like hacky-sack. Don't let it drop.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Knee kick to Mark!
- Alex Scoble
You kneed Mark in the hacky-sack? Ouchy....
- WorldofHiglet
On my tombstone: Made the final post on the longest thread in the history of the world. Most satisfying.
- Todd Hoff
Oooooooo FIGHT
- Roberto Bonini
Toe-tap, toe-tap, left-knee, left-knee, right-knee, toe-tap high, head-butt to Roberto.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
up up down down left right left right B A
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Fireball! Fireball! Dragon Punch! Fireball! Fireball!
- Alex Scoble
"309 more comments".. do I read them all to make sure I don't repeat something, or damn the cannons and comment anyway? The latter!
- Phil G
+1!
- Alex Scoble
I killed it!
- Alex Scoble
Thought you all should know I have returned from lunch.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Good grief. I can't believe this is still going...
- Joey Gibson
A (figured it was time to resurrect a FriendFeed classic http://friendfeed.com/e...)
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
If you are in North Dakota during the winter, don't wear a kilt.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Cobblersauce!
- Alex Scoble
I've killed it again!
- Alex Scoble
or so you wish
- kartik vaithyanathan
Nope you didn't
- AJ Batac
Haha. This is one of those epic threads Robert does, but without Robert. This has gotta be a first, then.
- Roberto Bonini
I'm sure he hid this thread a long time ago...it probably fits his definition of noise 100%
- Alex Scoble
Strangely enough most of the high comment threads do not involve Robert -- in fact most of them are not even in English.
- Brian Sullivan
go
- Alex Scoble
Everything I say is a lie. I'm lying.
- Alan Cheslow
We believe you, Alan.
- Alex Scoble
Once again, I've killed this thread!
- Alex Scoble
Hehe. No. This is turning into a general thread for everything.
- Roberto Bonini
So who read the Famous Five as kids???!!
- Roberto Bonini
Who here has read The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy?
- Alex Scoble
I'm killing this thread with my inanity, yay!
- Alex Scoble
I ♥ bananas
- AJ Batac
You are bananas for posting to this thread still! What does that say about me, though?
- Alex Scoble
Who reads Tom Clancy???
- Roberto Bonini
Alex, stop Spamming Friend Feed! UR Fixated with this thread! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I used to read Tom Clancy until he stopped spell/grammar checking his works. Now he's just weaksauce. And Igor...NO!
- Alex Scoble
What's the FF record for longest comment thread ever???
- Roberto Bonini
Anyone interested in placing bets on a number of comments this thread gets? There is always a way to hijack the thread and kill it! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
555 last I looked -- a long way to go
- Brian Sullivan
9 times out of 10 I post something and nothing happens...lol
- jamar78
Joey, we just want to make sure you do not feel lonely anymore. Next time someone does not comment after you, just remember this thread! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Give up already?
- Todd Hoff
the ultimate thread killer!
- dave
And the beast lives on....
- Katie is Frittering
Mrs. Krabappel and Principal Skinner were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and then the baby looked at me.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Took me 5mins to scroll down to the bottom of this thread, let's get it to 500 comments. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
What?
- Rochelle
556 if you want the record
- Brian Sullivan
Is there a limit to the number of comments on one FF entry?
- Morton Fox
LOL um...the same thing happens to me all the time. Kinda makes it less likely that I'll comment on something for fear of killing the conversation...
- Phoenix
I can't believe this is still going on!
- Michelle Martinez
Maybe you just said all that needs to be said. Summed it up in one post.
- Paula W
363+ posts and I still don't know the answer to the original post! :) Ps: hate to be the party spoiler, but, how much CO2 has these comments produced?
- Rui Pereira
from fftogo
More like how much methane has been produced as a result of this thread.
- Alex Scoble
And I've officially killed this thread, once again. Yay me!
- Alex Scoble
I just finished watching two episodes of House MD back-to-back.
- imabonehead
same here ima
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
So it's looking like I'm the anti-thread killer then?
- Alex Scoble
Yes, it's definitely you, Alex.
- WorldofHiglet
Nope, it's gotta be me.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
bump
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I have buttermilk chocolate and beer.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
You're not dieing on me yet, Thread. Breath damn you, breath!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Resurrection!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
It's obvious which of us friendfeeders are either a) competitive, b) OCD or c) just plain crazy.
- Alex Scoble
I've killed it once more! Let's hope I remembered to use the right implement this time. Can't remember if it requires A) a wooden stake through the heart B) a silver bullet C) sunlight D) cutting off the head E) dropping in to a pool of molten metal or F) all of the above.
- Alex Scoble
Drop it in to a vat of boiling acid?
- Alex Scoble
Hardly stalling. Just waiting to pounce...
- Todd Hoff
This is like an eBay auction with an hour left to go.
- Alex Scoble
More like: exit(-1)
- Todd Hoff
More like: exit(-n)
- Alex Scoble
Love this really long thread... the longest one yet on Friendfeed?
- Susan Beebe
OH HAI!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Good morning, FF! Watching Globe Trekker now.
- imabonehead
ERROR, INVALID COMMAND
- Alex Scoble
error: out of memory. rebooting...
- imabonehead
REBOOT HALTED, INVALID COMMAND IN QUEUE
- Alex Scoble
ERROR, INVALID COMMAND
- Alex Scoble
Professor Green, with the pipe, in the study!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Sundays are for watching cool shows on PBS-HD
- imabonehead
I love doing my taxes!
- Alex Scoble
And you still haven't killed the thread, Brian.
- Alex Scoble
We are now up to 402 comments (including this one)!
- Alex Scoble
I'm gonna have to dollar cost average it and call it at 410.
- Alex Scoble
Don't stop, I said to 500 comments. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Logout and check the thread, I suppose? I have no clue...oh what about ffholic.com?
- Alex Scoble
Up to 422 according to ffholic. And it's uber lame that it's not on most commented entries for last 24 hours.
- Alex Scoble
Back atcha, Chris. :)
- Alex Scoble
All I wanna do is zoom a zoom zoom zoom around the room room... YO SHAKE YA RUMP!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Comment Orgy! LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I was going to kill this thread, but then I got high.
- Alex Scoble
And by high, I, of course mean, got drunk...not going to jeopardize my job and my CISSP standing for a little doobage.
- Alex Scoble
And now I need a new xbox.
- Alex Scoble
Cool...Microsoft is sending me a box. I think I'm going to get an arcade model from either Target or Best Buy tomorrow though.
- Alex Scoble
@Chris Give me yours and I'll stop posting on this thread. :) I could always use two.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I still feel a pulse...better hit it over the head with the cudgel again *whack* *whack*
- Alex Scoble
I think it's feeling better.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
*whack* *whack* *whack*
- Alex Scoble
It's not quite dead!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Clear as glass, Chris.
- Alex Scoble
This isn't even the most commented thread in the last 30 days yet according to ffholic...My brother's post on how to get followers in Twitter and friendfeed is #1...we still have 20 comments to go. And yes, I'm only counting English posts, since I don't speak another language...interesting that we only have visibility in to last 30 days. We have no idea what the most commented entry EVER is.
- Alex Scoble
I don't think you'd like him, Chris. He doesn't believe in dollar cost averaging.
- Alex Scoble
ping
- Todd Hoff
No, Todd...use Nike clubs.
- Alex Scoble
i hate haters
- AJ Batac
I hate haters who hate haters.
- Alex Scoble
I thought what we needed was glove.
- Alex Scoble
The glove didn't fit anyway.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
So we must a quit!
- Alex Scoble
But only if it's Odwalla.
- Alex Scoble
I'm o'Cato to have some OJ, too, thanks.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
That's no good, Chris.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, I used to get that stuff from Costco and it was pretty good. That's lame that they changed it. Wonder why.
- Alex Scoble
I have a complete lack of fruit trees in my yard. Just trees that dump leaves everywhere.
- Alex Scoble
I don't rake the leaves. I prefer to leave them so that they create a nice mulch.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
LOL, Jason. If you did that in my yard you would come back in 10 years to leaves piled 30 feet high on top of 20 feet of fresh dirt.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, I feel you Chris, but you still aren't going to be last on this thread.
- Alex Scoble
I can't even remember the last time I had a shamrock shake.
- Alex Scoble
Woo this is now the most commented English thread of the last 30 days.
- Alex Scoble
Damn, Chris...that would be whack!
- Alex Scoble
Hehe
- Alex Scoble
Only one there can be - Yoda the Highlander
- Todd Hoff
What if there are two that post simultaneously?
- Alex Scoble
I try to get out, but they keep bringing me back in.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Yeah, Chris, but not for you.
- Alex Scoble
for whom does the bell toll?
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Such nice threads.
- Alex Scoble
Speech! Speech!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Sorry, but no joy on Chris winning this thread. I clearly had a comment after Chris's.
- Alex Scoble
Encore! Encore!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Still not dead.
- Alex Scoble
Somebody will have to keep it going. I'm about ready to eat dinner and watch the rest of season 3 of the office (and maybe start season 4) so don't let me down!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
OK, we won't.
- Alex Scoble
Come on people, at this rate this thing will never be #1.
- Alex Scoble
Wheeze.
- Alex Scoble
Wooo...we finally passed 500 comments.
- Alex Scoble
Are you part of the thread, or is the thread part of you?
- Alex Scoble
I officially declare this thread dead. Dead, I tell you!
- Alex Scoble
Damn you, Chris!
- Alex Scoble
ping
- Todd Hoff
My gin and bitter lemon consumption is quite high of late.
- Alex Scoble
I'm on pace to drink a bottle of gin every 2 weeks. Ironic that my wine fridge is full of wine.
- Alex Scoble
sweet alex won! oh wait...
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Ho ho ho, now I have a machine gun!
- Alex Scoble
Did I ever get in on this?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Don't you have something better to do besides torment me?
- Alex Scoble
wayyyyy too many other things - that's what makes tormenting you enjoyable ; )
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Stabbity!
- Alex Scoble
what no machine gun? shouldnt it be stabity-abity-abiity-abbity-abbity?
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
DAMN YOU TIM GEITHNER!
- Alex Scoble
I win!
- Alex Scoble
didnt ,, I win
- johnpiercy
Nope, I did the post where I said I won...so I win.
- Alex Scoble
Don't you have some property tax to pay, Chris?
- Alex Scoble
I think you missed some.
- Alex Scoble
What's the solution?
- Alex Scoble
Well he obviously couldn't kill this one.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, it still wouldn't count, because although I wouldn't see the comments they'd still be there. Chris is definitely an evil, evil man. :)
- Alex Scoble
This is all getting very exciting.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Yeah, this thread fizzled compared to the other one. I guess it was the competitive nature of the other one vs this one which has already proved the initial premise wrong.
- Alex Scoble
611 vs 555.
- Alex Scoble
No, you can't kill this thread either. Brian is just too sneaky.
- Alex Scoble
It is now 11:22 AM PST. If no one comments on this thread by 11:30 AM PST (you have 8 minutes) I declare myself the winner of this thread.
- Alex Scoble
It is now 11:31 AM PST. You did not post anything. I did. So I win. Thanks for playing. This contest is now over!
- Alex Scoble
Suck it Alex
- Josh Haley
Thanks for playing! Game is over.
- Alex Scoble
Only way to end it is for the thread to be deleted
- Josh Haley
Do what? I can't delete someone else's thread
- Josh Haley
Go home...I won. You guys didn't comment for like 30 minutes.
- Alex Scoble
I instituted it and declared myself the winner. This junta has now been completed. You are on foreign soil ruled by me...so bugger off!
- Alex Scoble
you're not the boss of me now
- Josh Haley
No, but I am the boss of the thread! Take a hike, ya hoser!
- Alex Scoble
I got yer hose right here
- Josh Haley
That's not a hose, that's a little straw you got off your can of air.
- Alex Scoble
brian: doesn't that involve a large trout?
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I'm sure the fish doesn't care as it's already dead.
- Alex Scoble
Can of air, like the fire extinguisher? Maybe.
- Josh Haley
Yes! We have no, bananas.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Can't touch this!
- Alex Scoble
2 legit! 2 legit to quit!
- Alex Scoble
We're the monkees!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Still mine!
- Alex Scoble
congrats Alex! oops
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
No, mine. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
*steals the internet*
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Here comes the hammer!
- Alex Scoble
hey you're the last comment again alex yayyyyyy!!!!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
We say what we wanna say, do what we wanna do, the Addams Fa-mi-ly! Go!
- Alex Scoble
yeah
- Josh Haley
Pumps and a bump, pumps and a bump! (at least I think that's what he says and I'm too lazy to check)
- Alex Scoble
Beep-beep!
- Tyson Key
Turn this mutha out!
- Alex Scoble
w00t
- Josh Haley
Citizens Against Alex Owning This Thread
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Hammer!!!!
- Alex Scoble
:p
- Josh Haley
Time!
- Mo Kargas
Looks like I'm late to the party.
- LogEx
SNIPE
- Mike Nayyar
You don't have to go home but you can't sleep here
- Johnny Worthington
DAMN YOU WORTHINGTON
- Mike Nayyar
This is the part where we dance.
- Alex Scoble
hey look everyone Alex is last on the thread again!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Woot!
- Alex Scoble
nice work alex
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Fin! Finito! Ende!
- Alex Scoble
You aren't gonna get it, Chris.
- Alex Scoble
.
- LogEx
Still not.
- Alex Scoble
boogers
- Josh Haley
What's interesting is that ffholic is no longer properly counting the number of comments in this thread.
- Alex Scoble
yeaaaa Alex is last again!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marcooooooooooooo!
- Alex Scoble
Alex wins again!!!!!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
OY VEY!
- Alex Scoble
thread killa'!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
OU812
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
from fftogo
OIC
- Josh Haley
Still mine.
- Alex Scoble
never
- Josh Haley
Wow this thing is still going?
- Katie is Frittering
Unfortunately, yes.
- Alex Scoble
Nice try Chris.
- Alex Scoble
hey look Alex has the last comment again!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
And again.
- Alex Scoble
HA
- Richard Lawler
Nice try, Richard. You still won't win the grand prize of CoD 5.
- Alex Scoble
*yawn*
- Josh Haley
Josh!
- Alex Scoble
Go eat a burger, Chris...
- Alex Scoble
620.
- Alex Scoble
meh
- Josh Haley
Meh indeed, Josh, meh indeed.
- Alex Scoble
*cough*
- Josh Haley
Gesundheit.
- Alex Scoble
LOL
- Alex Scoble
Wow was expecting to see Alex's name here
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
uh, no
- Josh Haley
I WILL END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL
- Mike Nayyar
wtf? HALEY!
- vijay
last!
- Josh Haley
Eff you, Haley.
- Mike Nayyar
Woo hoo! My thread LIVES!!!
- Joey Gibson
Yay!
- Tyson Key
@Joey - Don't worry, I have the same effect too, sometimes. ;)
- Tyson Key
Funny, I was actually worrying about the same thing. Oh yeah, sorry in advance for killing the thread.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
no prob
- Josh Haley
Segmentation fault
- Tyson Key
Are we there yet?
- Tyson Key
nope
- WorldofHiglet
nope
- Josh Haley
Ping!
- Tyson Key
Wow, 600+ comments.
- Kevin Whalen
Trundle, trundle wheel... La la la... Still... not... dead... La la la...
- Tyson Key
I hear dogs
- Tyson Key
/me throws a Zune and sees if anyone catches it
- Tyson Key
woohoo
- Josh Haley
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- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
He and Rogue are mine too
- RAPatton
I kept wanting Gambit and Rogue to hook up.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
15th Death Anniversary of Kurt Cobain of Nirvana. R.I.P. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
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I still remember where I was when I found out he died. :(
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I still don't know is it a suicide or assassination...
- Alp
Damn, already 15 years! Time goes by fast...
- Jorg Jansen
I remember Courtney Love's reaction...that his suicide wasn't romantic or noble as his fans tried to make it out, but "the selfish act of an asshole"...I respected her for that.
- Dawn
Holy shit.
- tehKenny, Dork
15 years ago unbelievable
- Joe Dawson
Wow. This is one of those teenage-years events that I remember so very clearly - it doesn't seem that long ago.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Well, it looks like being his daughter is a marketable asset.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Top Gear - http://likaholix.com/earl_e_...
Anne Bouey, Jorg Jansen, Jason Shultz and 4 other people liked this
you have to love the Brit humour/ humor. Watching them travel the length of Vietnam on scooters.
- Tony C (Unrated)
from Likaholix
Watching him climb into the Ford GT was priceless!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
check the youtube video of him demoing the ariel atom.
- grant fox
Always an awesome show ...
- Patrick Jordan
Go Capt Slow!
- Tony C (Unrated)
from IM
One of my favorite shows. It does help that I enjoy brit humor. This show and The IT Crowd are tops in my book. The episode where Jeremy was speaking to the girl from the US and he said "Welcome to the free world," I almost fell out of my chair.
- Jason Shultz
LOL It cracks me up
- Tony C (Unrated)
from IM
Evangeline Lilly - http://pattonroberta.tumblr.com/post...
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SaveIE6: Help us save the best browser around - http://www.saveie6.com/
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"The SaveIE6 campaign is all about showing the world the benefits of using the web browser IE6. There are currently too many browsers with too many unnecessary features. They are hard to use and render web sites badly and inconsistently. Contrast this with IE6’s proven technology and well-documented behavior."
- Morton Fox
from Bookmarklet
You are joking!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Hehe, that had me going for a second there. Gotta love sarcasm.
- i80and
This may replace "Free the Bound Periodicals" as my favorite cause.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
LOL! and LOL at MVB too
- Jim in Real Time
Okay, have to admit this is the best prank I came across today.
- embee
Thanks, @Morton! I snarked this for my FB folks
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
hahahahahah
- mjc
That is GREAT! Check out the warning if you visit the site in Firefox http://bit.ly/WvWA
- Keith - @tsudo
OMG, you have to click the download IE6 and follow the questions. BRILLANT
- Keith - @tsudo
Haha, people want to save this evil boat anchor on the progress of the web?
- Tyson Key
FAIL - "You have been mislead by a vocal minority and are using msie, which is clearly an inferior web browser to IE6." - When using IE7. Yay!
- Tyson Key
Burn it with Fire! ;)
- Tyson Key
OMG that's genious. Awesome
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Please tell me this is an April Fools joke. Cause if it isn't than I am truly worried.
- Mlibrarianus
I will be traveling to Canada for the first time ever next week to take the family to Niagra Falls. Anything I need to know about going to Canada?
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The people are beautiful and nice. Will you go to Toronto?
- Shevonne
I think we are planning to just stay around the Falls area.
- Alan Simpson
The Canadian side is much better than the US side. The restaurant at the base of the falls that rotates has overpriced, adequate food, but great views. The candy in Canada is better.
- RAPatton
I recommend having passports for everyone, for the border crossings. $1 and $2 are coins, not bills (loonies and twonies/toonies, respectively). Make sure you do the sky ride over the whirlpool -- it's AMAZING. There's a gorgeous Buddhist temple along the river, too. Have fun! :-)
- Ladybug Heather
What RAP said
- Shevonne
Most of the pitfalls to avoid are here, in a very funny fashion: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Ladybug Heather
They speak a foreign language there, don't they?
- Chris Loft
Heather - I was wondering about the passport thing. State Dept says they aren't needed until July - is this not true?
- Alan Simpson
They're not needed, but they're a whole lot more convenient. Of course, it's too late to get them now, if you don't have them already.
- Ladybug Heather
Heather - That's good to know. We have expired passports, but didn't renew based on the information on the State Dept. website.
- Alan Simpson
Be prepared for differing weather -- temperatures of 32F at night -- 50F during the day would not be out of place ( could also be 80F during the day). Assuming you are driving -- http://www.cbp.gov/linkhan... has information on documents (getting back to the US is more difficult than crossing to Canada). If you are not driving and don't have passports you have a problem.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian - Thanks for the information. We are driving and we do have the alternate documents listed on the site. Hopefully, we won't have too much trouble.
- Alan Simpson
Canada Customs, does not require US citizens to have a Passport, a valid identification will do.. e.g. your Driver licence. But its best that you have proof iof ID for all family members..specially the kids.. !! heres the linky http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/securit...
- Peter Dawson
yeah while in Niagra ..visit the butterfly conversation place..its great !!
- Peter Dawson
Yeah, without passports, bring (at the very least) a birth certificate for everyone... for getting back into the US.
- Ladybug Heather
heres another linky ..just in case :)- http://www.goingtocanada.gc.ca/
- Peter Dawson
@Peter: I remember fondly the butterflies. It's a really nice place. Everything there is nice. I'm not sure, they used to have fireworks on weekends, don't know if they do that still. Also, I'd say don't bother going to Ripleys/Haunted House/Tacky Museums/etc (except for the Skylon tower), as they're all pretty much a waste of time and money. You can have a beautiful, free day at some of the parks. Also, if you want to get out of the Falls area, you can go to Niagara-on-the-Lake, it's a nice grown up place.
- Will Higgins™
@Will, yep Niagara-on-the-Lake is a great place to take a ride..also do a wine tour if you are there..
- Peter Dawson
Call it "Canadia" while you're there. They love that.
- Admiral Anika
There's a public service video series with Sir Richard Mercer, in which Americans engage in a cross-cultural, casual man-on-the-street style interview; it's not just educational, there's some charming entertainment value there too, really. http://www.youtube.com/results...
- Micah Wittman
@Mark, Bags? We haven't had bags in Alberta for years. Maybe I just don't notice them, but I can't remember the last time I saw them.
- Kenton
Good morning everyone!
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Good morning all friendfeeders :) photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Alp
Morning Alp!
- Shevonne
Good morning to you too, Alp =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Where is the place in the photo?
- M F
M F, oh I don't know :) look at the link in the first photo.
- Alp
Oops :)
- M F
Good morning! :)
- LB - all new for '10!
and good morning my lover :) she's not hearing me :-(
- Alp
G'morning, Alp.
- Greg Guitarbuster
@Greg, morning :) Are you playing guitar?
- Alp
Alp, not right now, I'm playing internet radio :)
- Greg Guitarbuster
@Greg, if you play, please share your videos with us :)
- Alp
morning
- Alejandro
Twisted Disney Princesses - http://www.gunaxin.com/twisted...
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Americans Are Moving Up To Smaller, Smarter Homes - http://www.treehugger.com/files...
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I love seeing stats like this, because it makes me learn more about my house. The original portion is from about 1920 or so and is 1400 sf. Sounds small, but was *gigantic* for that time period and helps explain why they saw fit to move the house to its current location in the 50s.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I am more than happy with a smaller sq footage in a smarter floorplan.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Maybe the people who the article refers to aren't buying larger homes to impress their neighbors, but they make up for it in the details—Viking ranges, SubZero fridges, granite slab shower stalls. The impulse to impress your neighbor may be submerging in this bad economy, but it still exists. Just the fact that you can afford to build a smaller home is an "impress your neighbors" move.
- .LAG liked that
"The new motto: living well with less."
- Meryn Stol
I'm OK now with our smaller home. In the past I had dreams of putting on an extension and now that urge is pretty much gone. I just wish they would have made it better. Former vacation homes didn't seem to get a lot of construction love. Though it has lasted through a few big earthquakes.
- Todd Hoff
@Lindsey: people don't have people over, and 'show off' features of their house? they do in my neighborhood. you've never gotten a 'house tour' from some irritating acquaintance or neighbor? i have. MTV doesn't have shows like "Cribs?" People show off their homes, one way...or another...it's a reflex.
- .LAG liked that
Most of the typical house nowadays serves 1 purposes: store the stuff we own in a way that can impress people. And as more and more people could afford houses, people in the upper middle class had to get bigger and bigger houses to differentiate themselves, show their success and superiority... And the way we all have evolved over the last few years it starts to feel like a really pointless thing - own less, and have a house that is for you, not showing off to the joneses.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
nice picture :)
- Alp
Ahhh! Here comes the sun. (doo doo doo doo...) Just in time for my walk to be over. Heading to the pool. Full day today. Americano helps.
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Cheapskate has tips for saving $20,000 a year - CNN.com - http://www.cnn.com/2009...
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"(CNN) -- Jeff Yeager says the economic downturn is an opportunity for people to simplify their lives and be content with less. The author of "The Ultimate Cheapskate's Road Map to True Riches" has some ideas for saving $20,000 to $30,000 a year. The savings don't necessarily require sacrifices, he says, but rather choices that can lead to greater happiness. Yeager talked with Heidi Collins on Tuesday on "CNN Newsroom." A transcript of their conversation follows."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I'll summarize: no cell phones, don't eat out, get rid of a car, live at home while going to school.
- Matt
Yeah, not so helpful.
- Alex Scoble
IOW, Party like it's 1999.
- Admiral Anika
Step one: Stop buying razorblades.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
um...OKAY
- Caroline
Step two: don't use storage containers, instead store uneaten food in your Italian Porno style mustache.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
and we need a whole book for this? pffft!
- Alejandro Ramirez
Duck hunting - http://naurunappula.com/z...
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lol
- Farzad
for you... the moon - http://pincel3d.deviantart.com/art...
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10 Defenses for Howard the Duck | SpoutBlog - http://blog.spout.com/2009...
mohammadk, Jason Shultz and RAPatton liked this
Well worth reading.
- Derek Coward
from Bookmarklet
I like the article for #1 alone. If there's a movie I hate worse the HtD it would be Phantom Menace.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Ashton Kutcher Speaks Out Against Anti-Gay Slurs on Twitter - http://www.towleroad.com/2009...
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"In response to a follower who called him "gay" for hurting his hand on a punching bag at the gym, Ashton Kutcher twittered (to his 290,655 followers): "can we just get clear, calling some one 'gay' or 'fag' is as derogatory as calling someone a 'nigger'. U look like an idiot when you do it.""
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
yeah, he's not the brightest dude. at all.
- Cee Bee
Twitter is seriously the worst thing that's happened to some people. Wow.
- Mona Nomura
idiot WIN.
- Jim in Real Time
/facepalm. I appreciate the message, but really.. the "n" word isn't helping him out.. at all. :/
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Pot, kettle...you know the rest...
- Helen Sventitsky
There's someone with 290K followers? Wow. And I don't even know who he is.
- Morton Fox
Wow... He cleared that right up. Could some one please tell him that he should just stick to being pretty? And tell him that he "ruins it" when he talks (tweets) thanks.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Why does he and Demi think they're the prom king and queen of Twitter?
- Michael Forian
Counsel from Ashton Kutcher on how not to look like an idiot = totally awesome!!
- Anthony Citrano
Is he still around? Didn't know.
- Martha
Maybe it's just me, looking at this thread so far...but it's kind of cool he did this. A lot of the folks reading that will never listen to any of us. But they'll pay attention when he says it. Maybe I'm not following Ashton closely enough?
- Hutch Carpenter
I read this entire thread with eyebrows raised. I thought what he said made perfect sense and needed to be said. Yeah, he said "nigger", but he said it for good reason. I agree with Hutch, if the man has 290K followers, SOMEONE is still worried about what he says and thinks.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
He meant well. I don't get all the bashing
- Rodfather
perhaps he meant well Hutch, but his message loses impact the moment he invokes the "N" word into his message. of course he wasn't using it in a derogatory way, but he has no business using it in the first place in order to make the point he tried to make. it makes no sense at all
- Cee Bee
Maybe he shouldn't be using the N word, but I definitely give him a pass in this case.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
+10 meta drama exp points
- sean percival
Looks like the gays are appreciative of Ashton speaking out in a capacity that someone not normally seen as a supporter of gay rights taking up the cause. OTOH, the use of the N word kinda deflates any loft he might have created.
- Derrick
sean - LaLaWag?
- Hutch Carpenter
To me, the use of the N word was necessary. Of course, people will complain about him using it, but saying "The N Word" is also nowhere near as powerful and nobody would be talking about it had he phrased it that way.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
i disagree lindsey, especially if the word "fag" was used in whatever chain of twitter messages the one in the photo was a result of. gay bashing or epithets of that nature seem to be what the subject revolves around whereas the word "nigger" has absolutely nothing to do with this and is therefore just awkward and out of place
- Cee Bee
??? I read his tweet as : he knows the N word is terrible and shouldn't be said.. and uses it to make a point that "gay" and "Fag" are just as bad... ALL are UNACCEPTABLE!!
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
I'll just say that there are too many contradictory rules with many words and regardless of anything else, the tweet itself was an attempt for good. My grandmother taught me that good intentions always count for something, even when you frack it up sideways.
- Michael W. May
it's like if someone calls another person a "shoe" and then someone else says you shouldn't call them a shoe, because calling them a "helmet" is also unacceptable. ok, thanks for that lesson, ashton
- Cee Bee
shouldn't we base offense at words by the intent of use rather than the word itself? Some have called for censoring the word, but what use is that when we all read it out in an uncensored way? Unless people actually create a "beep" in their head when they read it. We know what that word is regardless of spurious "*" and "!" use.
- alphaxion
Of course the word "nigger" has a place here. Calling someone "fag" or "gay" as a derogatory term is just as bad as calling someone a "nigger". That's the point.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
@Michael The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
And so is the road to self improvement, learning, and change.
- Michael W. May
Judging by the comments in this thread his comment was necessary. Unless I'm not understanding people who think he was wrong, it sounds like you don't agree with him.
- Kenton
most people understand the implications of using slurs and racial epithets that's why they do it... And lets face it, the kinds of people who use those words as pattern of speech aren't likely to stop (regardless of who's asked them) My thing is, using words like this to compare and contrast how awful they are (while in the course of asking me not to use them at all) seems some how wrong... A for effort though.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
I don't get the objection to his statement either. Part of me thinks its the messenger and not the message that has initiated the gag reflex displayed in this thread.
- Jason Toney
Meh. Sticks and stones.
- Mattb4rd
my objection is that it looks like he attempted to use powerful and ugly slurs as an artifice. But I could be wrong.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
J. I don't see the ruse.
- Jason Toney
How was he being insincere?
- Andrew
i don't think he was being insincere, just naive and unsophisticated
- Cee Bee
Oh I wasn't referring to you, Cee Bee. J said he was using them as an artifice and of all the reactions so far that is the one I don't get.
- Andrew
I think that there may have been a way to ask people not to use those words with out actually using them, maybe I am being over sensitive... It just reminds me of that thing where some one tells you how bad cigarettes are while lighting up and blowing smoke in your face.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Good for him. Seriously don't get the negative comments in this thread.
- Admiral Anika
The n-bomb is a word that needs to die a trillion deaths - regardless of whose mouth it's coming out of. If someone can say it freely while making a point, they can also say it freely in other contexts, too.
- Mona Nomura
I would like to see someone structure a tweet that illustrates the point as simply and powerfully as this does. Sometimes you have to smack someone in the face if you really want them to pay attention. Nobody is making any clear point as to why he shouldn't have said it this way.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I get the negative comments. I don't give people "passes" no matter what point he was trying to make. I'm not going to lead an ashton kutcher boycott (I don't watch his movies anyway) and I'm not going to unfollow him on twitter (don't follow him) but I'm not going to give him props for an ill-conceived response to internet trolls.
- Richard Lawler
Rasheen - I think this whole thread says more about the emotions tied to the N word than it does about his point. Though I agree with you. It is hard to be sophisticated in 140 characters. There isn't space for nuance. You have just enough room to poke someone in the eye with your words and that's about it.
- Andrew
@Lindsey and Jason You're probably right, I was just struck by how overt it was... I guess I dug too deep.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Just to stir things up, I've often pondered the strive for gay rights as something equivalent to that of the Civil Rights movement in the 60's to which many black folk have summarily dismissed and admonished. This might be the wrong thread to discuss that, though.
- Derrick
rahsheen, i disagree. there have been very clear points as to why some people disagree with this "comparison" and/or analogy. no one's denying he didn't perhaps have the right motive in mind. what some people are saying is that it just wasn't necessary to use as the word fag or gay are insults/derogatory statements that have enough power to stand on their own. why use the "N" word and not some other racial epithet? just seems out of place
- Cee Bee
One more time: The n-bomb is a word that needs to die a trillion deaths - regardless of whose mouth it's coming out of. If someone can say it freely while making a point, they can also say it freely in other contexts, too
- Mona Nomura
It's all about the context. I personally don't drop the n-bomb cause i look at it as being disrespectful. I totally agree the word needs to go. However rappers tend to use it in a different context than I would.
- Shawn aka ringking
Agreed, Andrew. The trees are definitely blocking the forest here.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Context? A term created as a derogatory term, remains derogatory, no matter the "context". I don't believe you can use the "n-word" in any case. All this once again points to the huge social emphasis (and sickness) on using purile labels to divide and dehumanize sections of humanity.
- Mo Kargas
I agree about the other terms, but "gay"... isn´t that different ? I mean it used to mean happy as opposed to the other terms´ original meanings if any. I wouldn´t think twice about saying that a friend of mine (who is gay) is gay (if it was any of the third person´s business that is). PS! I´m not a native English speaker.
- Thomas Bøhm
Unfortunately, there are many people who use "gay" as a pejorative.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Cee Bee, you're missing the entire point. "fag" and "gay" do NOT have any power to some people. They are the same as "stupid" and "dork". The point of the tweet was to draw a comparison that even the most moronic of people could understand. You wouldn't call someone a "nigger" just because they did something silly or stupid or that you didn't like. Maybe you know better, but MOST people do not.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Thomas, I think they're talking about using "gay" in describing something as lame, wack, or stupid, not in the same-sex coupling, or even happy and good-spirited way. (And your English is awesome.)
- Derrick
Lndsay - Rasheen said he gave him a pass. I don't give him a pass. He didn't need to say it, or even bring it up, so I don't see any problem with question his usage of the word. There's a million different things he could have said or done, and he picked that one, if someone wants to call him on it, that's completely their choice. I have no idea why anyone would think that his response was the best way to address that comment, I certainly don't agree with that viewpoint.
- Richard Lawler
Derrick: Ah.. like how they call stupid things "Norwegian" in Minnesota ? ;) No, I see. Well, then there are lots of such words used in derogatory ways. You can´t just list three words, you just shouldn´t be derogatory of sexuality, ethnicity, etc. whichever way. But if you do, I agree, it _does_ make you look like an idiot.
- Thomas Bøhm
i don't feel i'm missing any point at all here. some people who drop racially incendiary words don't know the power in them either. this touches on a wider issue than mere context. to me it's about one word not having anything to do with another as per the original discussion. in my eyes, he ain't bridging the gap of equality by using "nigger" as a way to combat people from dropping a word like "fag." the two don't have any relation in this argument
- Cee Bee
I would like to see any of you put across the same point Ashton has without using the word "nigger". This thread alone proves why no other word quite works. His tweet would have been ignored.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
OMG EPIC FAIL I love the twitter diarrhea from celebs, thank you white & straight moron!
- sofarsoShawn
Exactly Rahsheen. Reading the reactions in this discussion, he chose very effective words. Maybe in some years, hopefully people will get this pissed off for using any derogatory word. IMO, he was very efficient at making a point that everyone would understand in 140 characters.
- Rodfather
I am the only one who is bothered by his use of 'u'? The rest of it was fine! How is 'nigger' any less acceptable of a term than 'gay' to discuss?
- fn (fairnymph)
Yeah, the U makes me cringe. I think the difference is that he is using the n word as a point of comparison. But he's using that U sincerely and thinks that it is the correct way to talk to humans.
- Andrew
And of course someone is one word not two
- sofarsoShawn
*sigh* Sweet Baby Jesus...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
SEE! Way better reasons to hate on Ashton. I think what most annoys me about 'u' (in addition to it being a pet peeve) is that he types 'you' later in the same sentence! It's not even consistently lazy! So it almost seems contrived, like he's trying to be 'hip' or something. As for nigger...why the fuck is 'the n word' so offensive but other derogatory terms are okay? What gives race a special blasphemy-level rating?
- fn (fairnymph)
@fairynympho & further as equitable as calling someone gay or fag, seriously qualitatively different
- sofarsoShawn
I think it's interesting when people who aren't black, question, or even tell black people when they can and can't be offended. I don't agree with his entire concept of comparing offensiveness, it's a stupid approach to take from the beginning.
- Richard Lawler
richard, i'm with you on many levels here.
- Cee Bee
sofar - why? Richard - I'm not gay either, so I have an equal relationship to blackness and gayness. Well, I'm more gay than I am black, so maybe not *exactly* but you get my point. Regardless, I'm not talking about how the people described by such terms feel - I'm talking about general acceptance of such terms.
- fn (fairnymph)
I've done some further thinking about this issue, myself. I'd like to scratch my initial comment on this. Sure, it may have come off as misguided, but well, he is telling the truth, whether you feel comfortable with the way he stated it or not.
- Helen Sventitsky
fn - I don't know how you'd gauge general acceptance of such terms, since what people do and say in public, and what they think, or do and say in private or in different social circles can be very different things, plus it varies so greatly depending on what group of people you're talking about.
- Richard Lawler
nymph, Tweetdeck does that automatically, so I don't know if we can blame him
- Matthew DeVries
Like I keep saying: if a person can use that word freely - even to make a point, they are saying it in other contexts, too. Period.
- Mona Nomura
@fn gay/fag have to do with sexual orientation & at times are acceptable to use as the community is empowering the usage much the same way as "queer, however the other has a clear racial historical background that is much more severe and not of that sort, @Lindsey nope they're allowed to say the n word, but the equity issue remains
- sofarsoShawn
Matthew, really? So we only have to complain about his grammar! Richard - What you say is true. Also, I'd like to point out that no one said blacks can or cannot be offended by anything, or gays, or whatever group. And I still think that either you think some things are okay to 'derogatise', or none/all.
- fn (fairnymph)
@fn (fairnymph) its the whole damn thing... Its the use of language that is both coarse and base as an admonition of something equally coarse and base (as an example of why he should not be called either or both) Or put another way. Aston Krutcher says stop calling me fag cause its as bad as calling some one who is black a nigger... Forgive me is some thing about that rubs me the wrong way.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
ai... bet you yanks get funny looks when us brits say "gis a fag" ;o) meaning a smoke!! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think it's a very powerful statement, and thus will probably resonate with many people. As someone else stated, he have worded it more eloquently, but fewer people would have absorbed it.
- fn (fairnymph)
Seriously, Mona? How can you make that assumption? I want to pick a word that's really BAD in order to show people how disgusting they're being. I want a word that just about anyone with any sense would find offensive. What word do I pick?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
@Rob it gets me hot
- sofarsoShawn
I'm not sure about the some/all question, but I did think some of the responses here indicated that people shouldn't be offended by his use of the terms he used, because of the reasons behind it, and that's not the kind of process I can get behind. I don't like comparing offenses because for most people it isn't a clearly defined line of what/when/who they care about offending, or how they'd react to perceived slights.
- Richard Lawler
I used the word 'nigger' in scrabble, once. Am I racist?
- fn (fairnymph)
Richard, from what I see most of the people saying he made his point, *are* black. Rahsheen, Cecily, me...But no one here has told you not to be offended, okay?
- Admiral Anika
You're someone I wouldn't play scrabble with again, but clearly that's not a problem for you.
- Richard Lawler
Shawn, saying the gay community is empowering usage of gay/fag/queer is the same as saying the black community is empowering usage of nigger. I think this is where the problem is. Nobody seems to get the fact that what Ashton said is the absolute truth. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe an actual gay person will step in and correct me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
lol @sofarsoshawn ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
@Rasheen no it's not saying the same thing
- sofarsoShawn
rahsheen.. I agree with you.. he said it right, with max impact.. thats WHY he said it that way ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I didn't say I was offended Anika, I said you don't speak for me, and I don't like the idea that anyone, black or not, would or could give out a "pass", there's a difference.
- Richard Lawler
Seriously, Richard? IT'S A VALID WORD.
- fn (fairnymph)
There are lots of valid words that I wouldn't put down on a scrabble board, but clearly we play the game differently. This is exactly my point, you can decide what words you're going to use in your daily life, and I can decide how I'm going to react to them.
- Richard Lawler
Richard, no one said that they were speaking for you either. But I wouldn't play Scrabble with fairnymph either. Ugh.
- Admiral Anika
What about Scrabulous?
- sofarsoShawn
it might be a valid word for a scrabble match between you and your buddies, but i doubt you'd be using it in a friendly scrabble game at an NAACP meeting. get real
- Cee Bee
Wow. You can learn a lot about people from topics such as these. Scrabble? Really? WOW.
- Mona Nomura
Anything in the scrabble dictionary is game, as far as I am concerned. And other than that one time, it's not word I've ever used. I don't know that I've ever said it aloud, so I resent the assumption that it's 'part of my daily life'. Go project onto someone else.
- fn (fairnymph)
If you can drop it on a Scrabble board, who knows where else you could be dropping it - just saying.
- Mona Nomura
ain't no one projecting when you're the one who openly admits to giving that word legitimacy by sharing with us that you've used it in damn scrabble game. you know you sound real dunce-like, right?
- Cee Bee
How often do you use the word 'xi' in daily life, Mona? That's some seriously irrational reasoning.
- fn (fairnymph)
Mona, apparently she uses it only in her head. :/
- Admiral Anika
in a scrabble game = in your daily life. I don't have to project anything. You're not concerned with other players considering what you're doing offensive, which is completely your right. I have no problem with it, but I wouldn't be in that game.
- Richard Lawler
Clearly it is in your vocabulary, if you use it in Scrabble. Just like how Ashton used it in his Tweet.
- Mona Nomura
Words used in Scrabble are quite different then the words you speak to others in everyday life; whatever gets you points
- sofarsoShawn
I'm pretty much just going to agree with everything Rah and Lindsey D said in this thread.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
see the quote marks around the words. i can see where he's coming from. should he of said it?? probably not. but it got his message across.
- Terry O'Fee
Mona, there is a difference between 'this is something I know is a word' and 'this is a word I commonly use'. If you don't see that, there's no help for you.
- fn (fairnymph)
Remember when everyone was looking forward to the open and frank discussions about race? Let's stop inferring, guessing what people are thinking, remember our backgrounds make us unaware of how things affect others, and let the discussion continue without judging the participants per a few lines of text.
- Michael W. May
Oh good lord. I've also used CUNT. Do I hate my own sex, now? Wtf, people.
- fn (fairnymph)
I never said commonly, I said it is in your vocabulary. I know the word exists but it is not included in my vocabulary. That is why you are beyond help. :)
- Mona Nomura
you know what? completely off topic, i can understand why people hate these words but haven't got any problems with someone using the c word (not to another female of course) but say objects or whatever...
- Terry O'Fee
south park - NAGGERS!!!
- Terry O'Fee
Mona, if you know what the word means, it's just as much in your vocabulary as mine. Anika, I resent your implication. Why is okay to attack me - for being honest - but it's a crime of the nth degree to use a valid word in a game?
- fn (fairnymph)
If you want to get technical, the Cambridge Advanced Learners Dictionary defines "A vocabulary" as "all the words known and used by a particular person". I certainly know the word but I do not use it. Therefore, it is not in my vocabulary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Mona Nomura
Clearly, your restraint in Scrabble makes you superior, Mona.
- fn (fairnymph)
The word NIGGER has never done any good for anyone as far as I can tell. If the shear disgust brought about by the use of it could jar someone into being more respectful to people different from them, I'm all for it. If you feel like the simple act of using the word in any form or fashion is offensive, I guess you'd like to bury it. I think burying it runs counter to actually resolving the issues around it. I'm black and people trying to forget about the word Nigger kinda pisses me off.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I do not need to exercise restraint, since the word is not in my vocabulary, fn - which is my point. Rah - comprehension and utilization are two different things. I never said bury it. I am saying it should not be in people's vocabularies.
- Mona Nomura
what indication is there that the use of the word did jar anyone into being more respectful of the people around them?
- Richard Lawler
Rah, I've been lurking, reading this comment stream and had a similar thought. Burying the word, forgetting it, ignoring it etc... doesn't seem like the right answer.
- mikepk
To clarify: because certain words are omitted from my vocabulary, it means I am burying, forgetting, or ignoring?
- Mona Nomura
None, Richard, but it did spark a discussion about using "fag" and "gay" as derogatory terms and how that might be as offensive as calling someone a "nigger". There are over 100 comments here. Mona, if no one is ever allowed to say or print the word, it has officially been buried. You seem to imply that anyone using it is doing something wrong. Maybe I'm reading incorrectly.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Sanctimonious faux political correctness has really gotten out of control with some of you. So, what about words like "rape", "murder" or "slave"? If I use the word rape in scrabble does that mean I'm advocating rape? Wow, I can't figure out who'd like this thread more, Aldous Huxley or George Orwell.
- Anthony Citrano
This conversation makes my head hurt. There's offshoots about race, language, etiquette, sexuality, and on and on. The focus has been on "the n-bomb" or "nigger" if you can handle it. Yet so little has focused on the original point -- that "the f bomb" and "g bomb" when used to hurt should be treated with the same derision. Bigotry of all stripes should not be tolerated.
- Jason Toney
To that end, i'm now mad at Ashton for using a pejorative to describe simple-minded folk.
- Jason Toney
Like I keep saying (LOL) if a person can use it to make a point, it means it is in their vocabulary, which means they can use it in any which way and form. I am not saying it needs to be ignored, but taught to all of the American people - like the way Hilary Swank did in the movie Freedom Fighters. Once we comprehend the implications of the word, I should hope people have common sense, empathy, and understanding of humanity to make the choice right for them. For someone to say "I know what the word implies
- Mona Nomura
...but I am not racist since I didn't use it in racist form." is a load of crap to me.
- Mona Nomura
++++ Jason
- fn (fairnymph)
+Jason
- Rodfather
yay, Jason!
- Helen Sventitsky
I don't think sparking a discussion = jarring people into being more respectful. I think the discussion that's been sparked has simply illustrated how most people justify their stances, but they don't suddenly change them because of some new comparison.
- Richard Lawler
This thread is too long and meandering. Maybe I'm being repetitive. Are you saying that Ashton just took this as an opportunity to say "nigger" for no apparent reason? Also, I still haven't seen anyone rephrase his tweet in a manner equally powerful without using "The N Word"
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
That is why racism will never die in this country. People are always making excuses for themselves and each other.
- Mona Nomura
" it means it is in their vocabulary, which means they can use it in any which way and form" - Mona, this is the point at which all logic leaks out of your brain.
- fn (fairnymph)
I hate the phrase "the n-word". I believe Ashton used the word properly and effective. otherwise, this thread wouldn't have so many comments.
- jbrotherlove
Mona N., I'd argue that when the words of intolerance no longer hold power over us, when their usage can no longer put people in their place or invoke fear or images of pain and hate is when the bigotry of language dies. I, however, would never presume to know what's in a person's heart just because they used a word. Their actions and intent -- the content of their character, if you will -- is how I judge.
- Jason Toney
The problem with making the word so super taboo that you can't use it in any context is you give it that much more power for people who do use it maliciously. STILL, using it in such a public manner/place is a pretty shortsighted thing to do. Though you will note that it did get attention..As far as people hating Ashton and Demi being on Twitter. Thats ridiculous. They are just having fun with a technology that we all enjoy. Why should them being famous prevent them from that? Don't like don't follow em.
- Joe Pierce
But words are powerful. It's how we communicate, how we represent ourselves, and how we empower ourselves and each other. Knowledge, the sentences we construct, the words that come out of our mouths is the one thing people can not take away from us. Us being you, me, everyone. To know the implications, the connotations, and comprehending what a word connotes is something that applies to all words across the board. How do I know what is in a person's heart? I judge by the words that come out a person's mouth
- Mona Nomura
Mona, but the thing about words is there is inflection and meaning behind them. If we make a word so powerful that we can't even use it in an explanatory manner then we make the word more powerful. I'm not arguing that the word should be used more(or publicly for that matter). But I am arguing that there are occasions where it can be used without evil intent.
- Joe Pierce
And fn (fairnymph)? If you can easily drop it on Scrabble for points, how is one to know you haven't easily dropped it for any other reason? I am extremely curious to see how asking that question is illogical. Joe - how do we know that? How do we determine a person's intent? We can only tell a person's intent by the words that come out of their mouths.
- Mona Nomura
Guess I need a lobotomy then, Mona, to scrub those bad nasty words from my vocabulary and make me a better citizen. I'm reminded of an old Boingo tune, "Controller"...
- Anthony Citrano
Calm down, Anthony. I am just trying to understand how words are OK to use in some instances but not ok in others.
- Mona Nomura
That doesn't work, Mona. It doesn't work because some people do not truly understand the words they use. Nigger, Fag, and Gay are 3 perfect examples of this. How many people say stuff is "gay" without realizing what they're doing? I'm quite positive you're aware of the debate about the word Nigger. You can't judge someone on their actual words because you don't know what those words mean *to them*.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Intent is in the context. To use Ashton as an example he is not calling anyone the name, nor is he using it in a derogatory sense. He is using it in an analogy because we all know how powerful an insult it is, so now we know he considers the others equally as bad. Should he have used the word that way? probably not, but the intent behind it wasn't meant for anything more than shock and comparison.
- Joe Pierce
This is funny LOLing
- sofarsoShawn
Also I should point out, most of what I'm talking about in my feelings applies more to spoken word where you can hear inflection. Written word is a tougher nut to crack.
- Joe Pierce
Mona, I love ya, but you are so wrong here... judging people by such narrow guides and small amounts of evidence, if you will, without knowing intent, without allowing for differences in starting point perspectives, make it difficult for people of different worlds to ever understand each other.
- Michael W. May
cosingning my blogfam plus anika, rahsheen and derrick. and +10 to Ashton, quite frankly. about the only other argument to make is why do we think of "gay" as a slur? but that question is pretty easily answered by "because some fucktards use it as one." so um, you know, nothing new to add :-)
- tiffany
I think Ashton made TWO points. The first was that using gay or fag in a derogatory manner is unacceptable. The second was that it is unacceptable to call someone a nigger. I have no problem with this. As far as I'm concerned, he doesn't EVEN need my pass, your pass, or the hall monitor's pass. He goes; he collects two hundred dollars.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I think Ashton's a closeted gay, and his dumbass tweet failed to quash any rumours except verify his stupidity
- sofarsoShawn
"And fn (fairnymph)? If you can easily drop it on Scrabble for points, how is one to know you haven't easily dropped it for any other reason? I am extremely curious to see how asking that question is illogical. " I already answered this, but apparently you can't read. There are many words that are used only in scrabble. XI was one example.
- fn (fairnymph)
Ok, I read through all of this and I don't understand slamming him, either. I'd explain my POV for defending it but a ton of other people have defended him well enough. It was done with good intentions. In the words of MMABB - He goes.
- Shawn Farner
There are way too many comments here to keep up - so LOL @ you for calling me illogical for making assumptions, when you are telling me I can't read. Relax, this isn't personal. So just to understand, you are excusing your use of the n-word because it was for Scrabble. That's funny... and kind of sad.
- Mona Nomura
what about a play, or rephrasing from a film? what if you're trying to explain to someone a part of blazing saddles??
- Terry O'Fee
@fn I agree there's a clear separation as to what gets you points in a game & as to what you do and speak in real life; to speak otherwise is wrong. I love Halo yet don't go on massacres too frequently. And thereby as to calling you a racist is utterly offensive.
- sofarsoShawn
Ashton's use of the word nigger was the most succinct possible. If anyone wants to think he, and now me, and others in this conversation are racist for actually spelling it out instead of using some 4th grade code word, thats their right. As it is mine to think that anyone who would have such an opinion is an ignorant fool. Of course you don't call people any of those names. But to say even using them in reference makes you a racist/homophobe/immoral person just really makes me sick.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
I wonder. Using that logic, when the word is used in a movie, is it just the actor uttering the lines automatically a racist or is it everyone else involved in the movie as well for being complicit in it?
- Tony, Paradox of FF
shan, your argument doesn't hold up. There are social mores that -- while not cheating -- people usually don't break, even playing a game, and if you do, people judge you based on them. it happens all the time.
- Richard Lawler
well example - blazing saddles. anyone who has ever watched that film knows mel's having a go at racism, but the amount of times that word is used in the film...
- Terry O'Fee
I did not and have not called anyone racist - those are conclusions you drew, Tony. My point is, from the very beginning of this thread: if you can speak those words in any context, how are we supposed to know when and how you choose to speak those words? I don't understand why people are getting so upset.
- Mona Nomura
There isn't logic to the rules regarding the n word. It's emotional. That doesn't mean it is less valid, but it's important that you don't expect it to rational.
- Andrew
i'm fine, i'm genuinely curious about the whole conversation. used within context the word should not be shunned, but going up to someone pretending to use "ganster" words and dropping it is in poor taste...
- Terry O'Fee
I'm not racist, and I hate the word, but in Ashton's case, he was trying to make a point. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing in the world, but he did get his point across. I think people, we need to stop getting upset over this. Ashton is not a racist and he wasn't using the word in a derogatory way. I'm following Ashton on Twitter and I missed this until now. Sometimes we need to be blunt like this to make a point.
- Molly, New Ears :P
The power of any word is determined solely by the listener.
- Mattb4rd
have a listen to greydon square's song "the n word" and listen to how he uses the word . he has a whole other feeling for the word (he doesn't like the word, but he uses it to call a certain type of black people..)
- Terry O'Fee
Why do you need to know when and how someone chooses to speak the words? What does that have to do with anything if you don't plan to draw conclusions about those people?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
False, Matt. People need to take responsibility for the words that come out of their mouths. Accountability, period.
- Mona Nomura
gay != nigger
- Chris Brakebill
" There are social mores that -- while not cheating -- people usually don't break, even playing a game, and if you do, people judge you based on them" This is a good filter, I feel. I absolutely judge people who feel whipped by social mores.
- fn (fairnymph)
No, Mona, you didn't specifically call any one person a racist. Of course I didn't mention you, nor anyone else in my statement. The fact that you concluded I was says more about you than I. Another conclusion I see is that anyone said that its just fine to use derogatory words in ANY context. No one has said that. I think it has been said that to use it as an example of a word that is definately not ok to call anyone, showing that the other words are just as not ok, makes sense in context. One of the few.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
What of the accountability of the offended party Mona? Respond if you must, to words that offend you, but don't react. To do otherwise is to fertilize the very ground that the seeds of racism are sewn in and to relinquish the power of the self into the control of the offender.
- Mattb4rd
@Mona I am calm, I'm just saying your position - that the mere presence of a word in one's vocabulary necessarily imbues the beholder with all of that word's social sins - is a strange ‘guilt-by-knowledge’ view that I've never quite heard before.
- Anthony Citrano
So if you feel he shouldn't have used the N word because it was offensive, then what non-offensive word would have been suitable in its place, and conveyed the same powerful message? Smurf? Sorry, but any word that would have had the same punch would have been just as offensive to someone somewhere, and we'd be right back at the beginning.
- April Russo (app103)
You don't think there's any way to have a powerful message without using those words? In 140 characters? Really?
- Richard Lawler
*blink blink* WTF? *sigh* What a mess ... I'm with Rah on this one.
- BEX
Call me black and white (or crazy) but I have seen and experienced too many forms of all kinds of racism and bigotry to know that if a person can easily drop certain words or references to make a point, or earn points in a game, who knows in what contextual form they also use it in. What we see and what goes on behind doors are two very separate things.
- Mona Nomura
And you have no idea what goes on behind those doors, so why are you pre-judging people before you even know their intentions?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Because the words you choose represents who you are?
- Mona Nomura
a lot of it comes from towns and where you live as well. i know a lot of people who don't use that word (australia) but similar. im not saying thats right for them to use it but people do it as reflex, if they've heard it from the family and peers all their life. especially in country communities like where i grew up. like is said, i dont agree but im not about to completely disown someone because of an off word of comment they might say while out...
- Terry O'Fee
But more than the words you choose is how & why.you use them.
- April Russo (app103)
The answer to your question, Mona, would be only that person knows. And maybe someone who hangs around them constantly. So if you don't know how someone acts "behind doors" its cool to assume the worst about them? Especially when the act the assumption is based on was designed to have the exact opposite effect? In this case reduce the incidence of derogatory name calling in general?
- Tony, Paradox of FF
You think so? If someone was hanging out with your kids and out of the blue brought up child molestation, you'd think, man I'm glad he's comfortable discussing such normally uncomfortable topics. You wouldn't think that was kind of odd to just be on the tip of the tongue? Not even a little? I wouldn't ever say I'm not judgemental, but I don't think i'm unreasonable.
- Richard Lawler
So, Mona. If someone calls his friends "gay", then he thinks his friends are all homosexual? If I'm black and call people "nigger", I think they're racially inferior to me or something? Don't you call your friends all types of stupid crap? Should a 3rd party judge you for it as you choose to judge others? On their words alone?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I am not a mind reader, so I take the words that come out of one's mouth as is. I do not analyze (nor take the time to analyze). Words mean things so say waht you mean and mean what you say. Excusing a person by saying: "Oh, it's ok because he didn't use it in XX way" is a load of crap.
- Mona Nomura
I think what he said had a lot more punch & power than what I said here: http://friendfeed.com/e... And I think his choice of words conveyed how offensive misusing "gay" and "fag" can be, much more effectively than my statement did.
- April Russo (app103)
So, what did he mean by saying "nigger"?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Richard, would I think it a little odd? Yes. Would I ask them not to bring up the subject again in front of my 5 year old? Most likely. My 15 year old? I would depend on the point they were trying to make but still on the likely side. Would I automatically think they are themselves a child molestor, punch them in the face and make sure they never came around again. Not unless what they said was something along the lines of them enjoying it.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
I don't know what you mean by what did he mean, but by him using the n-word, proved himself to be an idiot - just like he stated in that Tweet.
- Mona Nomura
@Richard you've digressed from the truth, by playing a game with shooting I'm not offending "social "mores" as you call it until I go out & shoot someone as to your claim. Same with using the word "nigger" in Scrabble despite what it means it's a game not REAL LIFE where I would not use it nor go out and massacre people a la a video to game to suggest as much really is the definition of idiocy.
- sofarsoShawn
Mona, words do indeed mean things. Sentences doubly so. If I use the phrase "load of crap" can one assume with confidence that I have irritable bowel syndrome just by the use of the phrase, or would it depend on which sentence I used it in?
- Tony, Paradox of FF
I think that last point is pretty far beyond anything anyone here is suggesting, I think it's only natural to judge people by the topics they bring up and the words they feel comfortable using, and when. I think it was a stupid choice of kutcher's to use those words to get that message across, and I don't see the apparent necessity some have cited in defending him. I don't have to think he's a racist, or even a closeted one, to (continue to) think of him as an actor only and not a wise social activist.
- Richard Lawler
Aight, I think I'm done here. There are just too many comments to scroll through and I don't think we're getting anywere. In parting, I'll point out that I still haven't seen anyone illustrate the point Ashton was trying to make with the same power he was able to put into it. Catch U on the fflipside...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Does he need to make that analogy? I said before, I don't think comparing offenses is a good approach to take at all. If using an analogy is some requirement, I don't think putting the words out there makes it more effective, only more controversial, and could give the person a perceived out for their behavior.
- Richard Lawler
I define myself by my scrabble words, FYI. In case anyone had ANY doubt. If you want, you can see a game immortalised: http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/9254...
- fn (fairnymph)
I can see if he meant "calling every black person a nigger" but to say it like he did makes him "borderline racist" a little
- Outsanity
This conversation is starting to sound like a broken record. *lol*
- Molly, New Ears :P
But you have to admit, only on FriendFeed can you talk about 'hot topics' without people resorting to personal attacks. LOVE this place!
- Mona Nomura
I was going to post something, but Rah pretty much covered all my bases.
- Rob Haas
that's what i'm sayin richard. why is an analogy even necessary? people ain't really that dumb. they understand the negativity of a word like "fag." it stands on its own without having to pick another negative word to compare it to. could've just said "can we just get it clear, calling someone "gay" or "fag" is derogatory. U look like an idiot when you do it." that would've been just as effective. instead this dude tried pulling something out his pocket that had no business in his moonlighting work
- Cee Bee
as a sociologist on twitter. as if his use and comparison with the word "nigger" was the ONLY way to get one's point across in this situation. it was a lazy and base way to get his point across. you don't use one base form of expression to nullify another no matter what the context.
- Cee Bee
But then the use of the word "idiot" could have offended someone somewhere that is or knows someone that is mentally retarded, putting us right back to the beginning again, right where we are with his use of the N word.
- April Russo (app103)
c'mon april be honest. you know that's a hell of a reach
- Cee Bee
Why? I do know people that are parents of mentally retarded children that find that word offensive. So it's not that far of a reach.
- April Russo (app103)
Cee Bee, if this has never been your experience then I envy you. But there are still a lot of people, have been for years, that call people gay or fag in a way meant to convey stupid or weak. And since gay and fag have unfortunately also been used as a pejorative against homosexuals, it ends up sounding like a backhanded way of equating all the terms. So while no one should be called stupid or weak, those words have less social scorn than the former, which are closer to the word that Shall Not Be Named.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
This is like epicly EPIC <;o) love it!
- sofarsoShawn
OMG @J yeha someone didn't read the linked article...
- sofarsoShawn
"porch monkey. I'm taking it back!!!" ;)
- Terry O'Fee
@Hutch Thanks for the link. Interesting article.
- Anne Bouey
Thanks Anne - it's from 2002, but it speaks to a lot of the eradicationist arguments seen here.
- Hutch Carpenter
There were eradicationist arguments here? I musta missed them.
- Mona Nomura
I don't understand how you can ask me to rewrite a statement I feel is flawed from the beginning, in someone elses voice and somehow seem to you like it has the same "power." I think in 140 characters you can say you don't approve of that behavior, and it has all the power necessary. You don't have to say anything else to get your point across.
- Richard Lawler
That's not in any way what I said, I made clear what I felt was flawed with his statement earlier.
- Richard Lawler
Seeing as how only one of them is at all relevant to what I just said, I think you know which one.
- Richard Lawler
How is using a comparison in order to show a sense of scale not a useful device? To me, hes basically saying " I know you probably use that word all the time to describe people you don't think are macho enough for you, but its really just as bad as one of the most offensive words our society has." Only more concisely and in a way that drives the point home a hell of a lot better.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
You're sure the person he's talking to considers any of those words among the worst our society has, and unacceptable to use? How can you compare them if you don't know how the other person feels about them at all?
- Richard Lawler
This thread hurt my head.
- Erin @queenofspain
You're right about that. Which is why I said "To me..". Which is why I also think it was better to be a bit more blunt about it. And really, the only thing I am against is the notion that if you use the word in any context whatsoever, that you are also likely to use it as a racial slur as well. That you should be shunned and ridiculed for daring to type out the word to begin with.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
Also, I think that thinking calling someone gay is derogatory is derogatory.
- Anthony Citrano
@anthony you're gay :)
- sofarsoShawn
"ghey" is still perfectly acceptable, right?
- Andrew Currie
I started following him based on this tweet.
- Jason
I unfollowed him based on this tweet. He's a dolt.
- Mattb4rd
People who think poorly about Ashton because of this tweet are far too sensitive. Notice the quotes around "nigger" and note that he's trying to make a point about use of derogatory words. Note that he understands his followers because many of his fans fall into the set of teen/tweens who call everything "gay" and use the word "fag" without remorse or a second thought. Good on him.
- EricaJoy
Exactly, Erica. it's like when I called Ashton “retarded”. I definitely did not mean to disparage retarded people.
- Anthony Citrano
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- Kol Tregaskes
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And what is going to prevent it, sir? God? The Green Man? Magic potion? Rain dances?
- Anthony Citrano
I wonder what determines big?
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
CASE WHEN Important goverment person has $ invested THEN INSERT $ into bank company ELSE SET 'Fail Flag' = 'Y'
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
I believe Jeff has the correct equasion.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
"The 10 Most Endangered Newspapers in America" via TIME. http://www.time.com/time... Go digital. Don't repeat music industry's mistake, newspapers.
Brodie Beta, Kol Tregaskes, Michael Fidler and 19 other people liked this
Would you pay for subscriptions?
- Mona Nomura
I wonder how many Pulitzers those papers have among them.
- Kevin Pedraja
We don't need to know that - next thing you know, people will be proposing more bail-outs based on sentiments. ;)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I wouldn't. I know people who pay for the subscriptions just for the coupons, though.
- Bryan Clark
....yet another challenge that people who maintain bird cages will soon have to face---good news for the trees...
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
How is this country supposed to advance if we cry at the loss of every obsolete product?
- Robert Hafer
A-men, Robert.
- Mona Nomura
It does not follow that because the newspaper business model is obsolete, the newspaper "product" is obsolete. What newspapers provide is in demand. Most of these papers have huge web traffic. Smart, sensible people should be worried that the job newspapers and other paid media do won't be so easily replicated by our shiny, new media toys. Most blogs and social networks get their content from traditional media. There aren't a lot of people outside of traditional media doing any real reporting, either.
- Kevin Pedraja
You don't think that print media business model is obsolete? Well, on second thought, I wouldn't say obsolete but close to extinction.
- Mona Nomura
Print Media is highly relevant--in fish markets and for people who love paper mache.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Whoa - hey now. I still love the Sunday paper.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
You're seeing a radical shift in media today. You're seeing a more centralized move. Everything is online. This is the more important story: The Digital Divide. The United States LAGS behind a ton of countries for a lot of things right now, one of them is internet access for all. This is NOT something that should be funded by government. This is something that needs to be done by private corporations.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
The corporations who thrive will be the ones who provide a very good "free" service while offering a competitive "premium" service. Free is where it's at right now. It's kind of ironic, they need to take a lesson from print media in order to thrive. You can go to pretty much any store and browse print media for free and deal with all the "noise" around the area, or you could buy the print media and bring it home to peace and quiet, or you can subscribe and have it delivered.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
It is not just media - things are changing for all industries across the board. I doubt print media will repeat the music industry's mistake, now we just wait for the entertainment industry to catch up. Lately, the are suing each other. (did you see Eminem's production company lose a lawsuit against Universal? Shady records is under Universal's umbrella)
- Mona Nomura
+1 for listing all 10 on the same page!
- Mike Reynolds
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Golden Gate & Full Moon, Panorama - http://flickr.com/photos...
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Phone Smart - Carriers Sweeten the Deal for Prepaid Cellphones - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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"because of some recent changes, people whose cellphone bills are hovering around $100 a month can peek over the other side of the fence to see the grass suddenly getting greener. Prepaid specialists like Boost Mobile and Virgin Mobile USA have begun offering up much nicer phones in recent months, and something even bigger: they’re creating rate plans that make it easier to use those phones as much as you want, while paying far less than you would on one of the Big Four networks."
- edythe
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Twitter to cost Canadians 15 cents a tweet - http://www.inquisitr.com/18852...
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Jason Shultz, Wallace, Gavin and 4 other people liked this
The new biz dev guy needs to do better. Twitter messages being charged when received or sent via SMS, over and above normal SMS charges is ridiculous. They're pushing everyone interested to simply get a data plan and a dedicated Twitter app.
- coldbrew
I'll say he needs to do better .. either this is something that all parties knew about and Twitter is getting a nice cut or the new biz dev guy is an idiot ..
- Steven Hodson
Canada gets shafted like because it the truth be known we don't get mad enough when Bell and the others give us the underhanded grab. It also doesn't help that there isn't any real competition either - it seems the only way Bell, Rogers and the rest of them - along with the cable companies compete against each other is by how high they can sneak their prices and how much they can screw us without having to offer up even a smoke afterwards.
- Steven Hodson
Gaming: Identifying Yourself As A Lesbian Gets You Banned On XBOX Live - http://consumerist.com/5160187...
Kol Tregaskes, ❁ⓟⓘⓝⓚ❁ⓖⓐⓡⓓⓔⓝ❁, Morton Fox and 13 other people liked this
Teresa says that she was harassed by other players and later suspended from XBOX Live because she identified herself as a lesbian in her profile. When she appealed to Microsoft, she says they told her that other gamers found her sexual orientation "offensive."
- Noah David Simon
from Bookmarklet
Woah....that's ludicrous
- Shevonne
huh? WTF?
- Parth Awasthi
One of the comments says it best: "You do not have freedom of speech in private businesses." That's the great thing about FREE enterprise and free markets: you're FREE to shop somewhere else. Try that with your soon-to-be-mandated government health care or your mail delivery, where if you don't like it, that's tough balls.
- Craig Eddy
not sure why Xbox is giving sexual orientation an option here. isn't the idea to shoot the other player? it might be best to have, "don't ask don't tell". I'm not sure players should know why a person is aiming a virtual gun at them. I'm not saying getting your kicks is wrong... but most of us don't sign up to get beaten up by bull queers.
- Noah David Simon
The PS3's PS Network's "Home" is FULL of lesbians.
- Will Higgins™
@Will: ...that are actually guys ;)
- Jemm
Jemm - NOOOOoooooo!
- Will Higgins™
the question is more complicated then just sexual orientation. the question becomes more in terms of the nature of certain forms of sexual behavior. certainly we live in a free society where people should do what they want... but there is a certain sexuality to violence that we must address. on that matter is it appropriate at all for men and women to be shooting guns at each other? perhaps gender segregation is more complicated then our bodies. they don't let men and women play basketball together.
- Noah David Simon
it is a funny issue because it seems to really open up a sore spot. society simply can not address all the classifications of gender and sexuality. by simply identifying a character as straight or gay it limits the spectrum of psychological profiles. this is why our government should not create social contracts merely on who we like... but our civilization needs to create structures that reflect our architecture
- Noah David Simon
there is less an issue of gender orientation and more a dynamic of if a person is an objectifier or an objectified. is a person dominant or receiving. does a person get off on being shot at or not? being that this world is virtual... it doesn't even work because it is a waste... it is a sacrifice... a martyrdom of time we all choose. we are all there to be submissive to the machine. in...
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- Noah David Simon
Why put your sexual orientation in your profile? Politics, sex and religion have no place on a network where people just want to play games.
- Paul Grav
this assumes that it is just a game. I think politics, sex and religion have no place in the virtual world exactly because they do. it is an example of how transparency must be limited. we are all there to be submissive to the machine and therefor our hidden agendas might have symbolic implications that destroy the community. I'm not sure I would want to play this XBOX game.
- Noah David Simon
I hope she sues Microsoft and wins. Bad move on their part in this day and age.
- Robert Couture
The Code of Conduct is pretty explicit about this: "Don't create a gamertag or motto that other users may be offended by, this includes comments that look, sound like, stand for, hint at, abbreviate, or insinuate any of the following: profane words/phrases, sexually explicit language, sexual innuendo, hate speech (including but not limited to racial, ethnic, or religious slurs), illegal...
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- Craig Eddy
So, even though I believe it, I wouldn't expect Microsoft to allow me to put "Jesus Loves You" in my motto. Nor would I expect "I only swing straight" to be allowed.
- Craig Eddy
I agree Craig. though I do giggle at the idea of someone shooting a virtual gun and telling you that g-d loves you.
- Noah David Simon
I'm actually less interested in the legalities in this... because I am certain that MSFT opened themselves up to this and they only have themselves to blame. What I am interested in is the very sexual dynamic of virtual hunting and why it might be threatening to bring in identity into this. certainly the industry opened themselves up to something when they created Tomb Raider and Street...
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- Noah David Simon
I'm certain there are no coded answers to these questions. we invite sexuality into the sphere. the virtual vixens are in fact very "lesbian" esque... and of course they also create a male hetero fetish. They are muscular and they are aggressive... the industry created this out of it's own desire to sell games. but in fact it is popular because it appeals to a desire for men to submit. to role play something that they can't in life.
- Noah David Simon
I believe that the user is very different the the character. you submit to being Lara Croft when you play her. you are not straight you are not a man. you are Lora Croft
- Noah David Simon
it is a matter of health to allow a certain level of libidinal desire that might be damaging to oneself. we as human beings might even be more healthy because we experiment with this other side. this duality. I'm not sure this should be coded as homosexual or transgender. if this element is dangerous to the game then it should not be an option.
- Noah David Simon
It's pretty obvious that most of the people commenting have very little familiarity with XBox Live. Microsoft has stated that putting anything that could be construed as sexual in nature in a user profile or gamer tag, puts a user's account in question. That being said, LIVE is hardly what I'd call a tolerant community, but microsoft would ban a gamertag like "StraightGamer" or "HeteroDude."
- Jon Anderson
Further reading: http://kotaku.com/390593...
- Jon Anderson
yeah... I am not familiar with Live. the gender and preference is an option or no? the entire market for this is because the natural male instinct for hunting and fighting is taken away from society. people are repressed. if they invite the natural fetish into the sphere... then it is their fault
- Noah David Simon
There is no "sexual orientation preference" option, thank goodness
- Craig Eddy
oh... ok. that was not made clear in the piece. then I don't blame them for wanting to filter out those details. they shouldn't allow me to say I'm Jewish either btw. I question the very need for a user profile there. I'm not sure a VR shooting range where you don't know people is a place to make friends
- Noah David Simon
Most of the people I'm 'friends' with on LIVE I either know in real life or met through common interests sites/groups. Gaming with strangers can be -to say it nicely- effing terrible.
- Jon Anderson
wow... so "GayerGamer" was the dudes name. hypothetically if I were to change my name to say "HebrewHammer" that would probably be offensive as well? or say some dude whose name is "Christian"? MSFT is making a lot of discression here. I'm not sure I agree with that finding. essentially they are saying it is a name issue... but they have no problems with political discourse or...
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- Noah David Simon
There's a field in your profile called Bio, it's limited to 499 characters. You're prompted with "Enter some information about yourself.". If a fellow gamer has filled in their bio, I'd expect to see some generic stuff such as game preferences, location and maybe age.
- Paul Grav
You're not obliged to enter your real name. So if you're real name is "I hate christians" then there's no problem, because you're not obliged to enter it. You are obliged to enter a gamertag, which can be anything you like, expect for what MS judges to be offensive or controversial.
- Paul Grav
...especially as XB360 is populated by kids insisting on calling each other "fag" at every opportunity. She should call her lawyers.
- Chris Nixon
Chris the mere fact that there is bigotry does not mean you change the rules without a lot of thought. I wonder how much thought went into this. did they pull it right away; did they have a debate about the many ramifications. to me it isn't so much if the name is right or wrong... because I think there is a lot of context.
- Noah David Simon
There was no thought. Can you imagine the number of people that have questionable gamertags or bios? This one was a no-brainer.
- Paul Grav
I can't even understand how this was even contemplated. Idiotic complaints belong in the bin not matter how many there are. At the moment in the UK on a BBC kids TV channel, there is a presenter who has one arm cut off at the elbow. There have been hundreds of complaints from parents claiming this scares their kids. It is an idiotic fascist complaint, and the BBC rightly ignore them.
- Chris Nixon
Please don't take this the wrong way. I've been on x-box live since it came out. If you play any FPS like CoD you know the "high" caliber of some of the people you play with. There are a lot of juvenile delinquents on there. I can't count how many people I have muted and/or reported. There's no real bio on there where you can broadcast your sexual orientation so she chose to put that...
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- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I just question her motives for putting lesbian in her profile. She was wrong for getting banned for it. Obviously, the people who harrassed her were wrong. They harrass everyone for any number of reasons. It still doesn't make it right.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
@Noah Sexual orientation isn't an option on xbox live profiles. she wrote it in.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
there is that context that I was contemplating. like the cartoon in Rupert Murdoch's newspaper that people feel is racist and Lou Dobbs on CNN says isn't... the question in the end is the context. and you can see obviously this girl is playing at people's inner demons and fears... and yes even bigotry. it was meant to provoke... and in doing so... for right or wrong about the ideal name being sexual or non.. should not be allowed.
- Noah David Simon
@Jason. How does MS know whether she is or isn't a lesbian? Anyone can put that in their profile. I think MS were right to take some sort of action.
- Paul Grav
I take it back about MSFT being to blame. they did the right thing. I thought they were creating facebook profiles on XBox and punishing people for saying they were gay. virtual fire ranges are no place to test to see if the boundaries of our society are fair. We know they aren't. It is a given.
- Noah David Simon
Microsoft To Start Shipping Windows 7 In September 2009 - http://digg.com/microso...
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"That is interesting how it took so long for MS to create Vista and then knock out in 2 years this "great" OS."
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