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Re: Indiana Holmes. (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Dave, I am incredibly happy to finally here someone else who agrees with me that Sherlock Holmes sucked. Went to see it with a friend of mine and was frustrated when he kept raving about it. I suppose he is easily satisfied, but I loathed it. I'll tell you why ; the film simply did not have that "Sherlock Holmes" feel to it. It felt like some generic detective film. ugh."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
The fact that @parislemon is checking his FriendFeed in real time the day after Christmas shows how dedicated he is. Or something. :-)
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Dedication or maybe bored?
- Owen Greaves
it shows that twitter is a parasite on Friendfeed
- Steve Gillmor
ha ha
- MG Siegler
Well, I was just thinking about how cool it is that not many people other than MG are on here, which makes it a great back channel.
- Robert Scoble
i said i'd start using again once tweets went real time again. they have, so here i am. still would love to see more conversation like the old days though.
- MG Siegler
mg that wont happen - especially since ff is now thought of as a facebook testing ground
- Allen Stern
FF is a mine field for FaceBook : )
- Owen Greaves
Yeah, I don't think that will happen, Allen is right as he usually is. But we can get a few thousand people to participate in threads here thanks to Twitter. The thing is, why would I push traffic here instead of over to my Facebook page or, even better, my blog? (and same for Techcrunch?)
- Robert Scoble
yeah i have my doubts too. still love the tech and the execution.
- MG Siegler
agree - the tech here is quite amazing -- too bad the concept of this becoming the new forum never happened :(
- Allen Stern
Owen: all Facebook would have to do is add real time comments and real time search and then FriendFeed has no reason for being other than my brother's posts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
this isn't about traffic, kids
- Steve Gillmor
yeah there were some cool things they could have done with that robert. too bad.
- MG Siegler
Robert: Yes, the questions in my head is...why hasn't that happened?
- Owen Greaves
Steve: right. It's a good back channel. Maybe we should keep quiet and just use it for that? The masses are asses, my history teacher used to say. I think I'm starting to agree with AJKeen and that's freaking me out.
- Robert Scoble
Owen: it takes a while to make shit work on systems for 350 million people. Plus, if you were the FriendFeed team wouldn't you want to do that AND something else mind blowing? I would.
- Robert Scoble
this is public robert. not a back channel
- Steve Gillmor
crap this is public? i'm outta here again.
- MG Siegler
Steve: if there's no public here it's not much more than a back channel.
- Robert Scoble
robert - for all intents and purposes ff has always been a back channel - just look how intimate people have been since the launch
- Allen Stern
right allen
- Steve Gillmor
If a tree falls in FriendFeed and only the people participating in this thread hear it fall did it really fall?
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I'm not suggesting its easy or quick but they do know what to do and it has been awhile. I'm thinking its coming, something mind blowing I'm not sure.
- Owen Greaves
Owen: well, I'm sure we'll hear more about Facebook's plans soon. Probably on the Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Nice shameless plug :)
- Owen Greaves
this is the Gillmor Gang
- Steve Gillmor
Steve: Good Call! LOL!
- Owen Greaves
Steve: heheh. Except with a micro audience. :-)
- Robert Scoble
It's a public. there are many publics http://bit.ly/publics
- Kevin Marks
Steve: Us Canadians are probably too polite to be on the Gilmour Gang : ) J/K
- Owen Greaves
I do love the quality of the people who are showing up on this thread.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe my strategy of pissing off people on FriendFeed who like cat photos and other inane stuff is working. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: The only good cat is a dead cat!
- Owen Greaves
it's like the old band is getting back together
- MG Siegler
listening to stereo mix of Abbey Road
- Steve Gillmor
Owen: +1 :-) MG: yeah.
- Robert Scoble
Steve, you better hide your cats...
- Cliff Gerrish
Old times Good times :)
- Johni Fisher
I'm listening to the rain on the roof. Reminds me to start up Spotify.
- Robert Scoble
Steve: Memory Lane....oh no sorry that's Abbey Road : )
- Owen Greaves
they all rain out on She's So Heavy
- Steve Gillmor
Johni: thanks for the call yesterday!
- Robert Scoble
MG you going to CES? Is anyone on this thread going?
- Robert Scoble
i'm not planning on it, no.
- MG Siegler
Lucky you.
- Robert Scoble
robert - i got my full pass the other day in the mail - sadly i am not going - i wish i could give the pass to someone who wants to go but the docs say thats not possible
- Allen Stern
Robert: I'm not, but I might go to Wal-Mart : )
- Owen Greaves
My pleasure Robert
- Johni Fisher
although i am receiving like 20 emails a day from pr firms who think i will be there :)
- Allen Stern
How about Macworld. Who is going to Macworld?
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Wal-Mart is probably more fun.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Ya, if you like low level thinkers
- Owen Greaves
Steven: no. I might crash the big iSlate event, though. It would be fun to see Apple PR turn me away.
- Robert Scoble
I'll get MG to film that.
- Robert Scoble
robert if they throw you out, just tell them you will complain on twitter - apparently this worked for someone with an issue with whirlpool
- Allen Stern
hehe :)
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Allen: Apple is going to be the last company standing that doesn't care about Twitter and what anyone thinks there.
- Robert Scoble
I complained about Best Buy Canada and best BUy USA was all over me : )
- Owen Greaves
agree
- Allen Stern
Of course, if I really wanted a scoop I'd rob Walt Mossberg's house the week before the event. He'll have one, I'm sure.
- Robert Scoble
Well, Apple does have various twitter accounts for iTunes stuff. So, they are a bit invested in it. No where near the level of say Dell, which apparently is making some bucks with their delloutlet account.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
steven - that dell story is bullcrap :)
- Allen Stern
Man, sometimes I wonder how tempted the UPS delivery guys are at UPS.
- Robert Scoble
yea robert - give up a great job with benefits for the hope of getting your name on engadget for a post?
- Allen Stern
Apparently they generated over 1 million in revenue from that account: http://en.community.dell.com/blogs...
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Allen: UPS drivers get benefits? Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
steven - while they might have generated revenue from their promotions - the majority of it didn't come from twitter - but it's a good pr story - the tech blogs sucked it up quicker than a foursquare new city launch
- Allen Stern
I suppose you are right. I've noticed that the mainstream networks seemed to really love this story.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
steven i don't wanna hijack this thread but as a deal hunter level 5, i am happy to discuss anytime
- Allen Stern
lovely chit chat LOL BTW Could we discuss weather? for a change :D
- Lora Lufark
Wonder if the joojoo will tank after iSlate is released?
- Susan Beebe
@ Susan I asked the same question http://myphillynetwork.com/why-the...
- Anthony Farrior
Give a big friendfeed welcome to my friend David Goad https://friendfeed.com/davidgo... Marketer extraordinaire, general nice guy and family man.
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Welcome David
- SportyGeek Adj.
HI David, welcome to FF!
- Trish R
Welcome to the conversation David!
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Welcome, David!
- Ladybug Heather
I look forward to fighting about marketing with you, David.
- Geoff Schultz
WWWelcome David.
- webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)
Why should marketers fight at all? Can we all... get along?
- David Goad
Re: Working on new editorial tools. (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Dave, you mention in your post that scripting.com runs on a static back end, I'm curious as to why you choose to operate the site in this way versus using a CMS of yours such as manilla. Would you ever consider using a dynamic wordpress back end for scripting.com?"
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Re: Coolest thing my father did (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"Now I'm just imagining what Dave Winer the teenager was like. It is sort of interesting that you chose to be drinking wine, I would think that some hard liquor, or just plain old beer, would be more "cool". Nonetheless, I think it is fantastic that you are putting all of your dad's photos and content online, a great thing to do so we can all appreciate what he did."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
DO you love GOOGLE WAVE? Do you hate GOOGLE WAVE? Tell me LIVE what you think here (you can even call me an idiot!):
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so tempted :)
- Rhys Amos
I'm sorry, it's worse than I thought yesterday. I'm writing a blog about it. Be up shortly.
- Robert Scoble
The people who commented on my blog motivated me. In a bad way. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I don't have a google wave account, so can't tell ya.
- imabonehead
I'm letting you first adopters sink your time into it and waiting to hear what you think, before I spend any time with it. Not impressed with what I have heard so far though.
- Jeff P. Henderson
Wanna try it out, but I don't have an invite.
- Mike Dotta
I nearly love it
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I think it has a bit of a way to go, then I'll love it
- Nicholas Orr
Jeff: it's worth checking out. There is SOME value here, but not as much as the hype made us all believe.
- Robert Scoble
I think Google Wave isn't and won't be a great public communication tool. But it does have potential when it comes to collaboration within teams. In the long run it could give apps like Campfire a run for their money.
- Abhijeet Mukherjee
Would love an invitation. Seems a marketing scheme rther than soft launch
- Mark de Kock
I would had an opinion if I had it :)
- Ata İsmet Özçelik
Do we have to comment on GOOGLE WEAVE to call you an idiot? j/k
- RAD Moose
I don't love it - don't hate it - mostly I'm just puzzled as to what the best use cases are & with many of the UI quirks (and I would argue outright errors)
- Shannon Clark
No invite yet. Lots of blog posts saying how it's going to change the world...but then the next sentence is that they haven't tried it yet. ??
- Jesse P. Luna
I finally figured out what I hate about it, though. It's based on email and makes the email metaphor even worse (And slower!!!)
- Robert Scoble
I was in the Dev Sandbox version of Google Wave awhile ago, and it felt like I was in a really out of control AOL Chat room in the early 90s.
- RAD Moose
I don't think I like the public waves, nor do I like being added to so many (testing) waves injudiciously. It's okay for now because I understand everyone wants to test it out, but I would prefer 1-1 or 1-few conversations instead. The best test is to _use_ it for something other than talking about Wave itself :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Mark: it's not incredibly stable yet - so it is very much a dev preview
- Nicholas Orr
i have an invitation coming, from a friend. however, since it is not here yet, all i can say is their strategy for creating demand and buzz is absolutely stellar. must confess i am not immune, i feel that when my invite "trickles" through, i will indeed be quite fond of it. disclaimer: i have ADD & love noise. a lot.
- (dot)lizard kelly
I'm just starting to get it - but am online with it and very motivated to see if it's as awesome as the Googlers and community believe it is. It's fascinating to say the least, from what I've seen so far. I'm open to connect with others on the Preview via hollingt@googlewave.com
- Tony Hollingsworth
Would love to experiment, was too busy when invite op came by, what's the best way to get one now? Robert, how's the baby? Pics were sooo cute. :) Best, Dave
- dave_blogworld
Here's some ammunition for you Robert http://krynsky.posterous.com/google-...
- Mark Krynsky
For such a strong platform, they totally bombed their marketing campaigns. Until you actually play with it, it's nearly impossible to understand what the heck they've created.
- Sean Power
Holy shit, Scoble's back?
- Matthew DeVries
I love the ambition and the real time capabilities, but I am cautious in terms of its utility. It will take some getting used to.
- Louis Gray
I love that I am IN it, I have not yet actually used it tho...
- Andrew Littler
I hate that I have no invite yet.
- jcunwired
Given the big boom in traffic I got the last two days, Scoble, I assume yours has been immense. Front page of Slashdot, on Der Spiegel, you led TM yesterday. Nice job.
- Louis Gray
Google Wave is mediocre, so it can't neither be loved or hated. Being mediocre is the worst thing you can do since it most often leave people indifferent.
- rick
I can see ways in which it can be beneficial. I just don't see a public social network expanding from it as a service. It will find it's place and loyal userbase. Just like FriendFeed did.
- Mark Krynsky
Though I haven't got invite yet but I still think when it is done and public for all of us there will be a lots of application which will make it more intuitive and useful. well for example twitter is not that much fun without its related apps. is it ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I think it is too early for any assumptions
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
The protocol seems cool.
- Mason Lee
From the video I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about. So far I can't find an invite, so as of right now I have to totally agree with you
- RickMeasham
from iPhone
I've try it, it seems cool but i need to test more the integration of external contents.
- Roberto Scano
Wondering if it will replace Basecamp and Skype. If I could put those together it would be a major step for our company. Outsourcing to India is all of a sudden very easy because of "Rosy" the translation tool That's powerful. Didn't get a first day invite but look forward to testing it for our organization.
- Brandon
Wave is baby at the moment and not even in beta version. So too early and useful for anything. While studying the protocol, it is indeed very intuitive
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Brandon, there are a couple tools to allow conferencing from inside Wave, a gadget from Ribbit and I think Twillio has a robot or something.
- James Williams
Anybody here written a wave server?
- Mason Lee
Mason: I don't think so
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
If Google is the only wave-server game in town, it'll be kinda lame. They already read all my email.
- Mason Lee
James: To combine the collaborator and the IM client would be big news for us. The promise is there but I still don't know if it's feasible. We will write all the todos and deadlines in BaseCamp and then move to Skype so it can be discussed. Doesn't seem very efficient and Wave seems to be the missing link.
- Brandon
By the way here in Sydney where Google Wave is being developed we've had a couple of user groups at the Googleplex in Pyrmont. See hashtag on Twitter #gwsug - a couple of tweeps worth following are @domesticmouse @pamelafox @purserj @harrisony - they're deep dive and I believe have written a "wave server
- Tony Hollingsworth
Robert, write more blog posts. :)
- ryanhuff
I think it's our job to celebrate innovation and shots at leaps forward. It shouldn't matter so much that a product doesn't live up to the hype right now. The original web browser sucked, PINE sucked, my Tandy TRS 80 sucked, my first iPhone was a mess. But now, my email is great, my web browser is fast and full-featured, and my laptop is small and more powerful than ever. The iphone is...
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- Morgan
I hate it because... I don't get an invite.
- Jackie
++1 Morgan
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Morgan: Hear, hear.
- Mason Lee
Here's a post from Sydney's local newspaper about the Wave team here: http://www.smh.com.au/technol...
- Tony Hollingsworth
I think the product is too young to tell if it will be understood by user; and we as potential user need some time to understand the possibile uses of the product...I have an account, and I was in the dev sandbox, I think it's a briliant object... but still it's too young to tell.
- andrea
It is a definitely interesting product. However, I need more than 1 other person to have it to see if I really know how it will function.
- beachpig
It's dumb. I had it months ago. totally stupid. Then again, I don't like web based services. I only run desktop apps and despise Google stuff out of totaly control. so wave is dumb. email is better.
- Adam Jackson
Andrea: I agree. I think the robots and gadgets people have developped/will develop will help better define the user experience.
- James Williams
I haz not had wave yet!!!
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
I will tell you what. This is a lot better than using Google Wave.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
for this purpose yes it is - the only way it would happen in Google Wave is if we were all in a group that you sent it to :)
- Nicholas Orr
How does it compare to MS-Office Groove? Not that I've used it, but it got pushed to my work machine, and the explanation of it given by it's own help sounds like what Wave was trying to do too.
- Matthew DeVries
Google Wave seems too bloated... but we will see
- joe
I think GW just takes some gettinmg used to and U need to make sure you kow what U use it for, it is NOT just another new kind of 'multimedia collaborative mail chat'.
- oliver gassner
guess one should differntiate between the WAVE technology (protocol) and what everybody now is moarning about - the collaborative mail chat thing they build to demonstrate its capabilities. Looking back it might have been a good idea to take a well known application to get the potential transportet. but now people are rating this application instead of the technology WAVE which has an enourmous potential! Its push´n´pull on steroids - and thats what makes a difference.
- psanner
Have not tried it, but real time collaboration looks promising. I wonder if it fits the way people are comfotable working
- Michele Costabile
Still waiting for my invite to arrive from google, must be on a slow boat from china
- Daryl Hunt on FF
Has potential for closed groups of people that all use wave. Further adoption depends on integration of legacy systems IMO.
- bishoph
Slower than email, and just, well slow. I'd imagine it'll speed up a bit when 3rd party federation servers take the load off a bit. Even with the quirks worked out, it'll still just as exiting as email. When blogs start integrating Wave THAT's when things will really get started. If they deliver what they're promising it's going to bring about a new generation of social networking.
- Philip
from iPhone
I hate google
- Farshad
I manage the IT for 5 people. Our biggest problem is making sure everyone sees what they are suppose to see. The idea that I can install Google Wave on a local server, and only have those 5 people in that instance is exciting. The Google Wave you are all trying ISN'T Google Wave, it's a free-for-all test of it the protocols. If you expect it to be another social media site, then you...
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- Johnny Worthington
I've reproduced this thread in a public wave: https://wave.google.com/wave... - You're live in Google Wave too. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I haven't been able to test it. But shouldn't we all wait before we judge? I mean, it's relative new. I think people will start to find ways of how to use the service in a good way later on.
- Patrik Johansson
This is the Internet, Patrik. It's not about being right, just first...
- Johnny Worthington
Patrik, agree. It's a very early version of a protocol. I think it's an amazing start and has lots of potential. I'd like to see groups added and some control of what waves you are receiving. But don't forget you can use the protocol and place it in your own site, so we can have a FF that looks like GWave. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Johnny: Hehe yeah you're right:) Kol: If we could use Wave as FF I think it would be awesome!
- Patrik Johansson
I mentioned this on today's show. If I can run my own instance, I could almost create my own 'realtime BBS'. If I could create my own network with just a select group of people (say movie buffs or photographers) to exchange files and talk in real time... WOW. We all go one about social networks controlling what we say and owning our content. If I could set up my own sites, free from rules or ToS... WOW x2
- Johnny Worthington
google wave looks exciting, however the slow release to developers is making other current real-time standards like PSHB and SUP more attractive for immediate building
- Mike Chelen
I have an invite and I've used it somewhat and I suppose I'm lucky I'm not a blogger who adds everyone on earth to every tool that I use in the hopes that I can parse all the noise, because I immediately saw the value in Wave. Rule number 1 of Wave: Don't talk about Wave. Seriously. The second you stop involving yourself in 20 concerrent waves about does Wave work? how is this looking?...
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- Chieze Okoye
Robert: "I will tell you what. This is a lot better than using Google Wave." is the epitome of what you're doing wrong. Honestly. Stop trying to use it like you use FriendFeed and start trying to use it like you use Google Docs and BAM, you'll see it.
- Chieze Okoye
Chieze: is there anything different or better compared with google docs?
- Mike Chelen
well, the thing that I like about it is that it combines the ease of collaboration of GDocs with the basic (sorta) paradigm of email/IM to improve the conversation part of creating a document. In GDocs, the communication with your colleagues/friends part of collaboration always took a back seat to the creation part. In Wave, I think it pretty successfully melds the two.
- Chieze Okoye
That said, neither facet in Wave independently (communication or creation) is as good as the two tools that exist now (Gmail and GDocs) but combined, it makes a lot of stuff easier. Specifically the kind of email threads centered around a central idea or final product (group report, list of who's bringing what to which party when, etc).
- Chieze Okoye
Love it. Even at this preview stage, I'd hoped for greater control over the Inbox - after all, it's supposed to be "email, invented today" - so, in its current form, it's not ready for mainstream/widestream adoption, but with a bit of polish from the usability experts, it's going to redefine how inter and intra organisation communication and collaboration takes place.
- Andrew Terry
And also, there's tremendous ability to keep Waves on topic (specific tools and actions available to remove thread-jackers and/or their non-sequiturs, add people as they become pertinent, remove people as they become unrelated, etc), instantly provides value to me over emails. There are definitely shortcomings and rough edges, no doubt, but the potential is quite clear when you know where to look.
- Chieze Okoye
Chieze: might address a few gdocs issues- that tracking revisions becomes difficult with many edits, and the lack of a realtime api. interesting, thanks
- Mike Chelen
Yeah, good point Mike, I hadn't even considered the API issue. As far as your first point, the revision part of Wave (playback mode) is already (to me) superior than the one in GDocs in terms of allowing me to follow all the changes that went into a document/Wave. With some more granularity and control (rollbacks, diffs between non-successive states, etc), it will be nigh perfect.
- Chieze Okoye
its not what i expected it to be, not from google, i guess they are mortal too.
- imran
for me it looks like groupware done right. Because it will really elevate in a corporate envirement when there is a office integration and you can make all you're office stuff in a colaborative way with all office products with all mayor plattforms and with people outside the intranet
- mosta
from AndFeed
Does the invite have to go to my gmail address? Or can I get one at M8R-v2hjnm@mailinator.com ?
- Justin Goldberg
haven't tried it yet.
- Thomas Hawk
can only tell that once my close friends join in...till now just experimenting. From the discussions that i saw till now, learning curve is pretty slack for G-Wave...all the new terms, bots, not to mention the inconsistent behaviour. But then its only a preview.. :)
- Roshan Ramachandran
Still waiting for my invite. It's been two days since someone invited me so they must be really backed up sending them out.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
with my limited use of WAVE...huge potential once more extension are built integrating with other Google services and offerings...using iGoogle page to consume information it would be nice to choose items and insert them into a WAVE for collaborative discussion / work related = GAnalytics extension would make it efficient to discuss metrics
- shayne catrett
FriendFeed != Google Wave - I think that's why you're frustrated. You're trying to solve a problem it wasn't meant to solve.
- Jesse Stay
In hindsight, I'd say the biggest problem with Wave is the way they decided to roll it out. If they'd simply given invites to groups of people who actually have a reason to try to work together and collaborate on real projects...rather than 100K unrelated developers/early adopters/pundits... I think much of the unwarranted backlash could've been avoided.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, but then Robert would be complaining of why he hasn't gotten a Wave invite yet ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, you just can't win, can you? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: I use more collaboration software than anyone I know, so I'm pretty qualified to try this stuff out.
- Robert Scoble
Andrew Terry: the problem is that the email metaphor is very unproductive. THAT is what I hate about Google Wave!!! Thank you for identifying it. There are far better metaphors for collaboration. Oh, and I get a lot more done in Google Docs than I ever will in Google Wave. Why? Because documents are a far more productive collaboration metaphor than email is.
- Robert Scoble
Shoot! I wish I had a Google Wave invite so I could try it out for myself! Hope it doesn't take too long to get one.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer: you already have FriendFeed. Wave will make you say "meh." Oh, OK, I can watch you type in real time and see just how bad a typist you really are.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yes, having FriendFeed does remove a lot of the wow factor of Wave. The real power is in the apps(gadgets and robots) which besides the featured gadgets is uncharted territory.
- James Williams
I'm dying to get my hands on it. Everytime I get a new email I'm hoping it's my invite
- Mark Hendy
Robert: But don't we have to find a replacement for FriendFeed? FriendFeed is the best, but how long will it be here? :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
I think Wave has a story for FF's threaded comments(IMHO it has a story for most of FF). What it needs is roles on a Wave so that I can allow ppl to reply to a blip that was created from one of my social media actions yet disallow them from deleting anything but their comments/replies. Also being able to have my "personal social media wave" be updated when I comment on someone else's "social media wave" would be nice so I that all parties can own that interaction.
- James Williams
Am I the only one who is SERIOUSLY concerned about the power Google has over our lives and businesses? Do we really want to keep giving them more and more access to what we do? I know they can compile it anyway but we can at least not make it so easy for them. I have had access to dozens of Google Analytics accounts. When Google is responsible for 50-70% of the traffic and 50-70% of the...
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- Internet Strategist
I don't love it or hate it. It's still smoke and mirrors until we get a chance to put our hands on it. It has potential, for good and for bad. How we use it will determine which prevails. Until we use it, it's just a phantasm.
- Ken Camp
Hard to say since no one has actually seen it yet.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
I have not used it, but I have a question - Should Google have waited little longer to polish it? because if people don't like it or they don't get invites they are likely to forget it ? If Google wave was from other company say xyzwave, people would not have created such a hoopla. To Non-geek public :What I am feeling is that majority of people don't have any idea what Google wave is and those people are likely to complain without fully understanding it.
- ashish
I agree completely with Ashish.
- Red Label
Reviewing Wave now is like reviewing the iPhone without any apps. It's just a platform.
- Steven Cains
It's the frame of a house that could be quite something.
- Aron Michalski
you're an idiot lol jk ;) however the whole debate has got me thinking about how i use twitter and i have decided to change my approach cheers! twitter(at)locspoc
- Loc
I'm certain I'd love Google Wave if: a) Google thought I was cool enough to have it; and b) I had it.
- Karoli
I don't know how to feel about Google Wave!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Can someone send me an invite to wave please americanm at gmail.com
- americanm
i requested them but still didnt have the invite.. please some one invite me : viralavatar at gmail.com
- Daniele - Viralavatar
Feels like IRC/iChat/Friend Feed
- Eric_T
Robert: Have you tried wave out with any of the Building43/Rackspace folks on project work? A team of 3 or 4 people or so? Anything work related? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm genuinely curious how it's worked out for you when it's with a group tying to create something collaboratively vs general tire kicking stuff.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think Google Wave is going to be one of those Google products that never really takes off.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
I think I should at least try it before forming an opinion, and since nobody has saw fit to invite me, I can't do that at this time. I think your request for opinions is a bit to early for most of us.
- April Russo (app103)
My ocean is flat. No wind, no waves.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I'm still waiting for someone to invite me. But from what I'm seeing wave is more like a framework for people to build upon, not a user application itself.
- Sung W. Lim
@Sung - that's basically my conclusion as well (http://macrolinz.com/macroli...) and a few people seem to agree with me that the beta is really more about figuring out what the UI should actually be for that framework than just polishing the UI they currently have. Most people are too caught up in the hype though and don't know what they're looking at and so get disappointed pretty fast.
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
+1 to Lindsay. Also, there will be many UIs but it will take time.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Robert, far from idiot, but you really surprised me Thursday (too fast & decisive), digesting the new post.
- Majento
I'm bullish. It seems like a lot of noise now, but when I saw the demo I saw how much more useful it could be for certain types of communication.
- Adam Loving
Option #3: Did you not get an invite to Google Wave?
- Michael Pinto
Would love to express an opinion but didnot get an invite even though I applied some time ago a bit sad being as I live in Australia and Wave is being developed here.
- Daryl Hunt on FF
I would comment Robert but as I didn't get an invite to Google Wave, I can't.
- Sandra Large
Even if you use it for its intended purpose (collaboration among a pre-selected group of people), Google Wave still needs a lot of work.
- John E. Bredehoft
You should do a public wave with this question, and add the poll extension so people can vote and comment at the same time
- Jesse Stay
Tag me when you do though so I know you did it. :-)
- Jesse Stay
like, want to try more usual conversation stuff before being sure, but like the embedding, sharing, etc
- immaterial
never got a chance :(
- testbeta
Still waiting to try it out.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Robert, thanks for opening the discussion. I really would like to read about more evidence and facts about the experience, rather than opinions without a foundation or whining about not having it.
- Luis Valdes
+1 Sung and Lindsay. Actually, this isn't even a beta, it's an alpha preview.
- Chieze Okoye
If you try to use wave as a replacement for facebook, twitter or friendfeed it's not going to work. Lots of people want it to be the revolution in social media when in fact its aimed more at private communication. as a way to communicate between a few friends it's fantastic although it still needs some work. Just remmeber its a replacement for email and im
- Jamie Vidamour
I'm using it and like it. Yes, it needs work but the potential is there. I like that I can add apps to it and that I can use it with some of the same tools in basecamp.
- Johann Lohrmann
It's okay Robert and has potential especially for collabortory working together. However, whether or not the general public is going to drop e-mail and IM and use this instead is a moot point, as its not easy to 'suss out'
- Sandra Large
@Sandra I don't think the basic useage is any more complicated than email, people probably just need to have their hand held through a simple example conversation with one or two others & they'll be able to use it - public waves & advanced features can come later if needed
- immaterial
davewiner: Here's something truly sad. Some opportunistic asshole is running around saying podcasting is dead. Asshole with a capital A. - http://twitter.com/davewin...
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What moron said podcasting is dead? It goes like crazy everyday! Calling him an asshole is giving him too much credit. Moron fits better.
- MarkCarras
Isn't it just best to ignore these loons? I mean you're just feeding the fire.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Such language .. I'm shocked!
- BLOGBloke
@bradleyjoyce nope, FriendFeed's search goes all the way back to when I started on that service. Unlike Twitter search.
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That's comforting to know.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Re: RSS has no Fail Whale (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
"I get really irked when I see these "tech journalists" parading around and proclaiming "RSS is Dead" when they seem to not grasp the very concept of RSS. As you've said Dave, a good portion of them confuse RSS with Google Reader."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Re: HowTo: River2 is a fresh start - http://newsriver.org/river2#...
"Dave, I'm loving River 2 so far, but I wanted to know when you think the "Share" feature will be implemented and made operational. I'd sure be nice to be able to shoot a story right out to twitter, facebook, or friendfeed. Thanks."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
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"Interwebz Fotoz Find me! Nues Videometriks Gee!Mails morz ▼"
- Micah Wittman
from Bookmarklet
The official search engine of Bruno.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Its hard to remember the url
- TrafficBug
TrafficBug, it's actually http://www.gügle.com (ff converted it).
- Micah Wittman
Just updated to Snow Leopard.
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upgrade was easy and flawless. So far everything's working.
- Thomas Hawk
oh, the little slider thingy to change the size of the photos in thumbnail view is really cool.
- Thomas Hawk
no incompatible software?
- Nolan Alston
My sympathies.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
No incompatible software that I've seen yet, but I've only really tested Lightroom and Firefox with it so far. I don't really use that much other software though.
- Thomas Hawk
Spaces is very laggy for me dragging windows between spaces. Also, iTunes is restarting on its own for no reason. Other than those annoyances it seems pretty tight.
- sean808080
Bought some of these today. They're pretty good, but now I discovered why they're 100 calories a pack. There's maybe 3 or 4 chocolate-covered pretzels in the whole package.
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A very strange coincidence that I am literally eating those right now. Each pack I eat, I do the math in my head: 100 + 100 + 100 = oh my. I've eaten too many. hehe
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Steven: Hahaha. They're good, just not enough of them in that bag.
- Trish R
My fave 100 cal packs are the Cheese Nips, Nutter Butters, and Stella D'Oros.
- Krista K
At first I read that as "Stella d'Oreos". :)
- Spidra Webster
I bought some of the chex mix ones, too, but haven't tried them yet.
- Trish R
I have the Chex Mix one and had some earlier today. There is hardly anything in the packet, though. It's annoying.
- Rochelle
I know, I bought some "bodywise" museli bars which were like 3x0.5 inches
- Bryce Roney
It's not low-calorie food. It's just a measure of what it takes to get up to 100 calories.
- Spidra Webster
Yeah, seems like it would be cheaper to buy a big bag of chocolate-covered pretzels and a box of those little Ziploc snack bags and divide them up yourself.
- Trish R
It's almost always cheaper to buy the regular size and portion it yourself. I can think of a few exceptions when I had coupons for 100-calorie packs but usually, those are overpriced.
- Morton Fox
Get to live.twit.tv now for some great computer funnies. See pic...
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That's Leo on the left, and in the box of four from top to bottom, left to right: Jono Bacon, Yours Truly, Jeff Darlington (GPF) and Chris Wright (Help Desk). Not pictured: Chris Koehler (webmaster for Kevin and Kell).
- Randal Schwartz
Oh man...I missed the broadcast of FLOSS , but I can't wait to hear the podcast when it gets pushed on Saturday.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
What the heck are you doing here? I thought we all got the memo to try Posterous or Streamy or something...
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Yeah I am still addicted.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
and I thought you were leaving :P
- Tim Hoeck
me too
- Tracy Benham
Tim: you wish!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Nothing else cuts it right now.
- LogEx
Nope... Josh and I are playing our Ukuleles on the deck of this fine ship till it sinks ala Titanic
- Johnny Worthington
They gonna have to call the cops to put me out.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
We'll all quit on 3, ok? 1... 2....
- Ken Sheppardson
I already have a blog, thank you
- Jesse Stay
Meh, FF would have to pay me to leave. Hey, now there's a thought!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Johnny: the whisky in the ship bar rocks!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I'm not here.
- Blackeyed P
Sarah: I won't tell anyone.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I'm hiding between the i and the e until they slam the 'book' closed.
- jcunwired
Posterous and Streamy are too democratic. Got to go with the best not spray everywhere.
- Alan Morris
I don't wish that.. if you were gone, who would stir up trouble?! Oh yah, Alex...
- Tim Hoeck
i'm staying till an open source cult clones it
- Robert Littlejohn
There's nothing better.
- ha3rvey (business time)
Robert, we agreed. FriendFeed is here, so ixnay on discussing those other ites-say.
- Louis Gray
it's on my igoogle page, no reason to remove it as it still works.
- Grant Bierman
Streamy has some substance.
- Wins Fern
I've built a posterous robot for Google Wave. http://posterous-robot.appspot.com
- kang
Geocities biatches! I'M BRINGING IT BACK!!!
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I use Posterous because it's different than FF :)
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
I got the memo, but can't be bothered til I know for sure FF is done.
- Mellissa
Demented and sad, but sociable.
- DGentry
Posterous? Isnt' that just a drop.io knockoff?
- Chris Jones
Who do you think wrote that memo to get rid of you, Robert?
- Steven Perez
Never used drop.io
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
streamy is lame*robert scoble's style*
- zʍıɔ
already use posterous... and you know robert - this IS the place to be!
- Chris Heath
Robert, Streamy just doesn't do anything for me, and this was the second time in four months that I've given it a chance. Posterous on the other hand is really taking off, and I haven’t made any attempts to compare it with friendfeed. I’ve been using it a year and it’s found a place in my tool belt. It’s fundamentally different than friendfeed, but they share a certain type of beauty...
more...
- Michael Fidler
FF Rules
- Rob Schieber
Rob, There's no doubt about it!
- Michael Fidler
Friendfeed is more than a service, it's a way of life.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Tried Streamy, logged in, it looked weird and didn't really work. I've got Posterous set up but, just like my "real" blog, I never seem to find the time to write anything.
- Travis B. Hartwell
When I get a realtime memo, a serious inspection may begin.
- Micah Wittman
We had noodles for supper.
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
We tried them. FriendFeed is better.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Well, I'm doing Posterous, Streamy, SocialMedian, Google Reader. I love Posterous, and I blog there as well as on Blogger. But I live on Twitter and FriendFeed.
- Dennis Jernberg
Um.. just checking that everyone gets out safely...
- Jemm
I'll wait til we hear about the owner of Streamy getting mobbed by 300 Turkish comments.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
from iPhone
You told us to leave and Louis told us to stay. Akiva said something about wait-and-see, and Kol keeps trying to pull me to GReader. I just can't quit you, FF.
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
I've personally switched to GReader, everyone I subscribed to I added if they had a GReader link on their FF profile. I added some to Twitter and some to Last.FM. I fanned some of the bigger names that have fan pages on facebook. i'm not ready to add "internet" friends to facebook yet. I'm not giving up on FF totally, but definitely not spending as much time here.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
@Mary: LOL! When I subscribed to a couple Turkish FF members, and my home feed fills with stuff in Turkish! I'll have to learn Turkish now. Russian too... ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
seriously, Robert, while they're good to check out...very few other services even come close to FF. Mind you, the other options do HELP a bit...trouble is, it takes at least three other services to be as good as one Friendfeed.
- George Hall (Australia)
very funny, Scobes.
- Raphael, Raphael
Nothing beats FF. Not yet.
- Rutger Blom
@Rutger: I agree. Definitely.
- Dennis Jernberg
There is nothing that is close to FF out there. Streamy is buggy, Posterous is for blogging and Google Reader needs a *lot* of work before it's truly 'social. I'm here to the bitter end.
- Kol Tregaskes
Ditto =>Yeah I am still addicted. There is nothing that is close to FF out there. Streamy is buggy, Posterous is for blogging and Google Reader needs a *lot* of work before it's truly 'social. I'm here to the bitter end.
- RetiredTeacherD
I think we're all on the same page. At Streamy we're doing our thing; we're not trying to replace FF. I threw my hat into the ring at http://sty.im/EUdhiw to take an angle on it. Cheers.
- Don Mosites
Just got up on Posterous and am seriously digging friend feed these days!!
- Ahad Bokhari
I'm not leaving! But if/when I have to switch...I may go out and see how Facebook+FriendFeed will be. Otherwise Google Reader seems pretty cool right now.
- Patrik Johansson
But the people I care about so deeply are here. Why would I leave my friends?
- Ladybug Heather
I'm writing this inside of Facebook with the ff tab... pretty cool! no need for posterous or streamy...
- Vedran Rudelj
takes a bit to pack up your home being FFugees now, on our way to the promised .org :P
- sofarsoShawn
I'm not moving. Still trying new things at the same rate as always, because we havent yet found the smoothests best way to share, organise, discover and filter, by far... (location awareness for one). Not holding my breath for the openff thing either (dont see the point of a clone)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I tried Streamy and honestly gave it a fair shake, but it is no FF. So, I'll remain a FF user.
- Naomi Williams
There is nothing out there as good as friendfeed period
- Asgeir
I am not sure that there is not anything as good as friendfeed, but friendfeed is very good at what friend feed does
- Eran Even-Kesef
I think it's telling that we've tried all these other sites and nothing comes even remotely close to FF.
- James Myatt
I missed the memo! What are YOU still doing here? How's Streamy? Dreamy?
- Amy Flynn
What was that line from Officer and a Gentleman? "I've got nowhere else to go!" :)
- Joe Bonner
It's hard to compare - i hung out occasionally on ff until some day there was the right critical mass and I began to see the point. Many of the newer sites have not reached that critical mass - who knows what their potential would be (ff 18 months ago was nowhere near as useful as it is now)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
We're hooked till the end it seems my friends. Geocities resurrection by Johnny would suffice to instigate migration
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Withdrawals ..... but OK now
- Charlie Anzman
Lazy.
- CAJ, somewhere else
+1 Joe Bonner for the Officer and a Gentleman quote. "I've got nowhere else to go!"
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
Tried streamy. It looked clumsy... back to FF
- Krishnamoorthy
Streamy is good, upcoming, but it needs a Robert Scoble.
- Wins Fern
If Scoble moves to Facebook from FF...I'm sure we all will:p Oh, this was my 1000th comment by the way. Yippie.
- Patrik Johansson
addicted and not gonna change that - I love FriendFeed. You'll have turn off the servers to make me leave :)
- Susan Beebe
I didn't think the memo applied to me ;)
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from iPhone
I never left.........and I won't until they put up the "Closed" sign!
- Bonnie Foster
Still here.
- Mitchell Tsai
Our next baby's initials spell out RSS. I won't reveal the name until we register the name.
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by register the name you mean domain name right?
- sean percival
RSS? That's kinda awesome haha.
- Tomy Thomson
Regis Sanford Scoble?
- drew olanoff
Robert, do you subscribe to that RSS feed?
- Adam
wow.........
- xero
At least it's not CRS.
- Derrich
Adam: he will fill my feed for sure!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Really Simple Scoble?
- Laura Norvig
Redford Scott Scoble
- Eric
Yeah. Domains and Facebook, etc.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert Stay Scoble?
- Jesse Stay
Romeo Stuart Scoble
- Eric
My initials are my name in pig-latin when you spell them backwards: SEJ
- Jesse Stay
epic EPIC win.
- Justin Gerard
Robert Scott Scoble
- Scratch5150
Rupert Scott Scoble
- Eric
Ruth Sarah Scoble
- Mr K
His middle name will be Soroush. That means divine calling in Farsi.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Rihanna Sylvia Scoble
- Eric
Rowan Soroush Scoble
- Joan Lockwood
RSS is due September 26th.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Congrats, Robert!
- Joan Lockwood
Ronald Stuart Scoble
- Eric
Reginald Scott Scoble
- Eric
Really Small Scoble...of course
- Derrich
Robert (named after you) [insert a middle name starting with an s] Scoble
- Chris Martin
Randy Super Scoble.
- Tomy Thomson
Robert Silent Scoble
- Ninoo
Really Sneaky Scoble
- Lon Cohen
Eric that has the best cadence. its a drumbeat name. will be easy to remember: Redford Scott Scoble
- Melanie Reed
You should Pubsubhubbub and get RSS here instantly.
- Andrew Smith
from fftogo
Excellent. I will subscribe.
- Louis Gray
Great way to get your wife on the RSS bandwagon :-)
- Jesse Stay
Robert Seymour Scoble (sorry, I had to say it).
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
My sons name was available the day he was born and then two damn days later some guy in Australia grabbed it.
- Hunter
With a nickname of Dave :)
- jcunwired
I'm sure he'll be a Winer, too
- Jesse Stay
Really Simple Scoble?
- Lindsay is in 20-ten
Rakiva Smoskvitz Scoble. (The R and the first S are silent.)
- Akiva Moskovitz
akiva
- Yolanda
Will commoncraft make a video of the birth?
- jcunwired
Haha I know the name but I'm not saying! :-)
- Dave Winer
Awesome.
- Stefan Holmes
Rave Siner Scoble
- jcunwired
OMG IT'S EMBARGOED.
- Akiva Moskovitz
This is not the child's actual name: Really Simple Scoble. :-)
- Dave Winer
l dont think its difficult to name a child yall wn l had mine l had to create one which l later found found out to be a beautiful one..as long it has a meaning just do it..
- Pam Gwenzi
Its Robert Socble Second
- Sidharth Dassani
___ Soroush Scoble. What a fun game! Robert and Rasputin are likely out. And what a marvelous melding of names; American techie communities are full of cultural mashups. Here's to looking forward to 9/26 for mystery's end.
- Alex Howard
but RSS is a dead technology! </sarcasm>
- Tim Hoeck
Tim: well RSS's birth will be Twittered.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Hahahahahahhaha Robert!!!!
- Mona Nomura
My daughter's initials spell MES, and let me tell you - IT'S PROPHETIC. (be careful of the initials).
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
Pfft! Robert's following in my footsteps. Audrey's birth was Twittered!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva: Milan's was too and his first cry beat Obama to BlogTalkRadio by two years. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
my guess is Rasputin S. Scoble
- Logan Lindquist
I'll ponder a guess: Richard Scott Scoble?
- Thomas Ward
Damn you, Robert! [shakes fist]
- Akiva Moskovitz
Gerber just announced a new line of baby food called RSS Feed. ;o)
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
My own initials spell out RSS. LT, good one.
- Rob Schieber
Maybe that's not such a good idea, with Steve Gillmor parading around claiming it is dead. XMPP would be more apt, but don't ask me what the initial would stand for. One gnarly name.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Robert Scoble Scoble?
- Ryan Kuder
Or B.S. - I know someone who has a kid with those initials!
- Carrie Lynn
Robert Senior's Scoble?
- sebastian☆rocket brother
That reminds me of a humorous website where you could input letters like these and it would give you a humorously formed acronym - I remember bookmarking it and cant seem to find it...
- TrafficBug
Robbie St. Scoble?
- Bas
Robert Stanley like my dad?
- Yant
I have no idea what this cab driver is talking about. Yet we continue to converse.
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reminds me of Mozart and the Whale. (which btw is a fantastic movie)
- mjc
As a cabdriver, I resemble this remark.
- Christopher Harley
Similar to when Programmers try to talk to little old ladies who have no idea how to operate a computer.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
I once got a cab driver who was some kind of computer consultant. He talked about how he did the calculations to figure out how to optimize his fares so that he makes the most money. Some cab drivers wouldn't take airport runs because they feel they'll miss a bunch of shorter fares, but he figured out that it's about continuously having someone in the cab, not driving around for hours looking for a fare.
- Andy Bakun
But then, I also had a cab driver one time who, when he saw me and my girlfriend making out in the back, said we didn't want to go to the 24 hour eatery we had requested, but he knew of a place on the southside (of Chicago) that was really good that all three of us could get a bite together. Creepy.
- Andy Bakun
If everyone leaves FriendFeed I will have all of its Google Juice to myself! Check this out: http://www.google.com/search...
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I just posted that a few minutes ago and already it is in Google. Wild.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
"Horse Piss Beer on Flickr" an interesting result.
- Dean Clark
Dean: yeah there are some fun results there, huh?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
That's what will suck it everyone moves to facebook as friendfeed's features get integrated, there is pretty much no Google Juice on Facebook. Too many privacy barriers...things might change though.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Dude you are crazy!! Good point though =)
- frank barry
Not leaving until they kick me out.
- ha3rvey (business time)
Like many other people, I think best route is for friendfeed to go Open Source. Then we could keep it going.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
This is fleeting. Google always rushes to over-index the vogue site of the day. they did this at one point with myspace profiles, then youtube comments, etc .. http://bit.ly/DoFQI
- Derek Pangallo
I'm not going anywhere. You'll have to share the google kool aid with me.
- shaun mclane
Shaun: go away! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I've always wanted to rank for "Octomom eats neighbor's dog." - And NO - I'm NOT leaving. Don't make me speak Russian to you. :)
- shaun mclane
That was QUICK! http://www.google.com/search...
- shaun mclane
Shaun: yeah Google is indexing a lot faster. By the way that was funny!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
No way am I leaving all this fun to you Scoble....slide over and give me some room :)
- Ken
OK. Just pass those potatoes and peas. We're not leaving.
- Brenda Young
Um, you got some Google Juice on My Yahoo!
- Glen, Bespectacled Elder
Who said anything about leaving? And what the heck is Horse PIss beer? Sounds revolting..
- Sandra Large
Can we talk more about Posterous? Do you use it? Do they have an easy to way to check if your friends are already users? Would you agree that if it went real time and switched the "favorite" to "like" we would be pretty damn close? - http://posterous.com/
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Also, who is on it? Saw some of the big names, but how about you?
- Ben Hanten
Also, I am trying to figure out how to share an item AFTER it has been posted to Posterous. Is there an option to email a link to someone?
- Ben Hanten
Check Kol's post: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Shevonne
Well, initially like everyone else, I was hooked on posterous because all the cool kids were using it, but now I rarely visit and post to my page. Some well known people in the tech industry love it , i.e. Andy Ihnatko who is even thinking about taking down his wordpress blog all together and exclusively posting to posterous.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
I haven't used it much in the last couple of months. Mostly because I use it to post intestestish photos from my iPhone and I really haven't had many the last couple of months.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
i like posterous... i've been posting there from my iphone more often that posting here... it gets here via their autopost everywhere feature anyways, and also posts to my wp blog too
- Chris Heath
So can you help me out? Is there a way to email a post to friends? That would be like a 101 function, right?
- Ben Hanten
automatically? as it's posted? i don't think so
- Chris Heath
No after it has been posted.
- Ben Hanten
i don't think so... wouldn't it be easier to email them yourself?
- Chris Heath
I use it, like others, to post iPhone photos, sometimes to multiple sites
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
There doesn't appear to be a way to check if your friends from other networks are members. That'd be a cool feature though. Hopefully it's coming in a future update. *fingers crossed*
- Grey Drane
I'm sort of interested in Tumblr. Seems like the community is much stronger there than on Posterous.
- Ben Hanten
Top 10 Most Ridiculous Band Names in Rock - http://digg.com/music...
"Who wouldn't want to listen to the dulcet tones of a band bearing the name "The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza" Can't be any worse than Danza's acting."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
SUVs Officially Dead as Explorer Tops Cash-for-Clunkers List - http://digg.com/autos...
"To some degree, I feel that the SUV epitomized the excessive, narcissistic American lifestyle of just a few years ago. The Hummer was the most ostentatious, unnecessary vehicle ever produced."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
I am actually VERY excited about FriendFeed going to Facebook. This is a HUGE win for both companies! More later.
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+1 (without the more later ;)
- Orli Yakuel
Big news.
- phil baumann
Oh, I can't wait to hear how this shakes out...
- Travis Tasset
With any luck FB will rework the UI to make it more friendly and it can gain some market
- James
Absolutely. Great deal all around. Congrats to everyone involved.
- Tom Guarriello
If Facebook uses the FriendFeed interface, then I would agree it is a great idea.
- Rob Diana
I'm hoping for better, faster feature development.
- Jeff Harbert
yes, definitely win-win
- Wolfgang Heinrich
huge win for both companies ?? is it a win for the FF community ?? who comes first ?? the business or the users ?? I bet you within 6 months, I wont be using FF as much as I use it now !!
- Peter Dawson
i agree - facebook has been getting on my good list this past year and I just love friendfeed.
- Chris Jackson
Just as I re-dedicate myself to using FF, FB acquires them. If FB can integrate FF's deep feature set, it would be a win-win-win.
- Jim Duncan
True or false: Facebook needs FriendFeed more than FriendFeed needs Facebook.
- Joel Zehring
I'm excited too, but at the same time I'm afraid facebook may make some wrong moves with their acquisition. We've seen this happen before.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
this is not a good day for Twitter....
- Giorgio
I fully expect to just see FriendFeed as a separate entity to go away with its technology being absorbed by Facebook.
- Mike Flynn
Very True.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Joel: Absolutely true.
- Adam Reyher
I caught Robert's reaction to the news on my iPhone: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
If this makes it so I have one LESS place to go to follow my social media, then it will be great. I already have too many different places with different people and different conversations for differ purposes that overlap and make it unnecessarily complicated.
- David Rondeau
FF > FB? not great, actually. diversity is better than monopoly. and i'm concerned about aggregation features getting deprecated (in the name of progress and chrossing the chasm and all that jazz.. of course ;)
- jacek
This is a IP, technology and talent grab.. I don't see the 2 sites being consolidated
- Dave Senior
It may be a big win for both companies but is likely a big lose for FF users.
- Brian Sullivan
FriendFeed functionality on Facebook would be nice. The reverse, not so much. They're trying to address two entirely separate purposes and as such, need to remain completely separate.
- Adam Reyher
I hope Facebook turns into FriendFeed. That would be great!
- Wo
I'd really love to see the real-time threaded conversation feature of friendfeed be adopted by facebook.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Looking forward to your analysis Robert
- Ken Seto
I can see development of FF slowing down as the team brings the tech over to Facebook
- Dave Senior
Indeed, Brian. FF devotees should be pissed over this. I can't believe Facebook will do anything but carve out a few choice pieces of FF meat - likely making them even more Twitterish - and dump the rest. FF will be gone within six months.
- Shéa Bennett
This is a huge win for both companies, and a huge fail for every net surfer.
- TiTi
yeah it may not be that bad. maybe i'm exaggerating.
- Edgar Rodríguez
Well, I think the FF team can certainly help the Facebook UI. But, all I take away from this is FF going away.
- Yolanda
One thing to consider is this: If we have "trusted" the FriendFeed people not to screw things up, hopefully we can trust them to make sure they're still in control in the terms of the acquisition.
- Adam Reyher
Yes, Robert. Like TiTi said, huge win for both companies, huge fail for the people who like FriendFeed. "Welcome to FaceFeed! Would you like to take a quiz?"
- Zach Flauaus
I think this is definitely a huge win for both but maybe not for the users. I think it could be good or bad for users but I hope that Facebook will allow FriendFeed to continue and push the envelope with emerging technologies. I imagine this is Facebook and FriendFeed teaming up against Twitter.
- Brandon Titus
.-( Good for Friendfeed, but horrible for people that like friendfeed and hate facebook &their UI or where FB is blocked
- Del_
may be
- Ahmet Soyata
It's good timing. FF uniques fell almost 10% in July.
- Shéa Bennett
this is bad news for twitter, me thinks.
- Brian Ries
Absolutely, Robert. Its a very good tech acquisition for Facebook, they get a great team with a well developed technology stack. It lets the FriendFeed founders get a good, early exit.
- DGentry
I hope so. I know my initial reaction was not as negative as most of the others I'm seeing in my stream. Maybe I'm just being naive.
- Herb Hernandez
Hopefully this means the power of friendfeed will be utilized. Awesome news
- Marcus
This is why I follow Mr. Scoble, yes that is Mr. Scoble :) always has his fingers in the breaking news.
- dennis podgorski
I'm fired up about this union between FriendFeed and Facebook. With the exception of my social media group, I've used FriendFeed primarily as an aggregator--despite it's being my favorite GUI and functionality. I think this is going to bring the substance to FriendFeed that it's been missing. Very exciting!
- Jim W
I have a hard time drawing my line of Public v Personal. I use Twitter & FriendFeed for public use and I use Facebook for private use. I have not even once made a status update on Facebook. I am not sure I want FriendFeed on Facebook. I am intrigued about the possibilities of integration but I am not sure I will adopt.
- thestaticfrost
The power of FF will be used -- but it won't be pretty and won't be for good.
- Brian Sullivan
I have to agree with Robert on this. I think this is likely to be a great deal moving forward. I'm excited about it, and happy for the FriendFeed crew. They've done an AWESOME job.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I am not as excited about this. I don^t like Facebook as much
- nchenga
i think this is going to add more value to Facebook
- Lee Kent
concur robert
- mike "glemak" dunn
It certainly makes sense, and I agree that it adds value to FF. I wonder how many of the 250 million users of FF will be using it in its current form.
- courtney benson
Just surprised this didn't happen earlier. Facebook has been mimicking FriendFeed's functionality for a while now. Nice that FF is finally getting paid for their R&D efforts.
- Aaron Strout
I think this will make me drop friendfeed or facebook
- Nicolai Rygh
Please explain - this may be win for Friendfeed - but as far as us the users/fans... we're the big losers in this right? I really really can't stand Facebook :-( Help us have hope...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
ruination.
- Joe Silence disconnected
I will wait and see approach @ all
- polou/indigo_bow
here is the explanation, FF have t sell the soonerr, better then laterr, they choose the right momment, wave is there and it is a big promise
- abdellah
when Google start wave, they surely shown their non desire to acquir FF it was implicite
- abdellah
All Your Feeds Are Belong To Us
- Ian Tindale
I'm hoping for the best.
- Jim Connolly
The idea here is growing on me. I see the business case...I'm still not sure as to the impact on Twitter and different users who prefer one tool over another and/or use the two differently.
- Derek Shanahan
I'm trying to defer my pessimism...but I feel an "I Want Sandy"-type fail in the wings. As for FF needing to sell, that wasn't the case; the founders had the money to keep it going for as long as they wanted, basically. We'll see, I suppose. We'll see.
- Ken Kennedy
This is really interesting. This will bring a bigger pool of social media services to people. As it is now, regular folks don't venture further than Facebook, with this acquisition, many will realize that there is a plethora of great other services and social media websites that they can engage in.
- Rami Taibah
Ya know when you get a bad feeling about something - I have one about this deal. Can't put my finger on it, but it don't feel right.
- Jim Connolly
FriendFeed now to get BIGGER than Twitter?
- Jim Connolly
"when Google start wave, they surely shown their non desire to acquir FF it was implicite" - I think that probably covers it.
- John Craft
Isn't this the kind of daring move that Yahoo should have made?
- Andrew Warner
Seems like a HUGE win for Facebook. Not so sure for the future of FF, though.
- Chris Wood
This is really interesting. This will bring a bigger pool of social media services to people. As it is now, regular folks don't venture further than Facebook, with this acquisition, many will realize that there is a plethora of great other services and social media websites that they can engage in. On the side of the coin, I am kind of worried about FB privacy issues and data portability
- Rami Taibah
is there a dislike button anywhere? I did exactly the opposite FB never appealed, FF rocked...
- Valeria Maltoni
FriendFeed will not be the same place, in terms of the community, but this keeps friendfeed around for a while. Awesome! Where's Arrington? Did he reopen his account?
- Benjamin Taylor
Whatever FB and FF does, don't tell Oprah... That's a sign it's over..
- Timothy Latz
FF isn't blocked at work, FB is. FF usefulness would nose-dive for me if blocked.
- Brett Veenstra
Brett: this is likely to pave the way for more client applications for Facebook, which will not be blocked at work.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Flickr Refreshes Search Page: Looks Good! - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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Today Flickr announced a refresh and redesign of their main search page and I have to say I’m liking what I’m seeing so far. The new page layout flows a lot better than the old one. You can now choose between small, medium, detail and slideshow in terms of views and they have a cool little letter i that is on thumbnails that you can click on to get additional photo details without having to leave a search results page. (You can see an example of this on the image above searching for graffiti by “most interesting”). In addition to offering you more choices for viewing, flickr’s also made use of a right sidebar space to provide you possible related interesting content by highlighting “groups” that feature what your searching for, “photographers” who shoot what you’re looking for (based on number of tags I believe), “tag clusters” showing similar sort of search terms or related criteria and finally “places” tying geotag information in with your search terms. All of this content in the right column is done in typical flickrish ajaxyish style and flows easy and well.
- Thomas Hawk
I really like the update. Makes searches so much faster with more information on a page.
- Tom Newman
Meh - I still miss the days when Flickr used to actually innovate. There's nothing *new* here, just a UI refresh of the site feature that that I'm least interested in anyway. I guess it's good for me if it makes it easier for people to find my photos, but for the most part this is yet another update that gets a great big yawn from me.
- Eric P
Shame they still keep loosing photos ;)
- Nicholas James
I suppose this refresh was due to the new Microsoft-Yahoo partnership? Delicious got a search refresh as well. I wonder how much of the new search is based off of Bing code.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Steven, I doubt that this has much to do with Bing at all. I think properties like Flickr and Delicious are not part of that deal (but I could be wrong). The search results themselves largely seem to be the same as before the refresh. I think it's just a design implementation and basically offers the same former results just with more choices for sizes, easier access to basic photo...
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- Thomas Hawk
Well, Flickr was integrated into Yahoo Image search some time ago. There's no reason to think that Bing won't have access to Flickr data as well and include it in its image search. Which sucks for Google, which is now the only big player that doesn't have access to Flickr data to incorporate into the search algorithm.
- Eric P
it is interesting that even without official corporate access to Flickr data that Google Image Search still sends a lot more traffic to my images than Yahoo's Image Search.
- Thomas Hawk
I assume that's just because Google Image Search has such a large market share. Yahoo's is better, at least when it comes to finding Flickr photos. I believe all Google is doing is analyzing the image metadata for photos on Flickr. It would also know about inbound links to the photo pages. What would be absent would be any of the social activity around the photos - views and traffic sources and comments/faves and whatnot.
- Eric P
Eric, agreed. Google gets a larger share simply because more people use Google for image search than Yahoo. Yahoo potentially should be able to do Image search far better than Google though and beyond some very basic integration of Flickr images, they never really realized this potential. Had Yahoo been smarter they would have much more aggressively integrated Flickr images and the social metadata around the images into their image search strategy.
- Thomas Hawk
This is beautiful... now I just search and search to see what is there.
- Evan Travers
Glenn Beck's Derogatory Impressions Are Completely Insane - http://digg.com/televis...
"Here is the thing, Glenn Beck is not a journalist and never has purported to be one. He is a commentator and performer."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Glenn Beck's Derogatory Impressions Are Completely Insane - http://digg.com/televis...
"That clip is out of context. Glenn was not mocking the paraplegic."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Leo Laporte's video - http://leolaporte.smugmug.com/gallery...
Bryce Campbell, Richard Bitting, Willem (@wim66) ☠ and 4 other people liked this
Wow. The EP1 shoots some nice video.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Wow! Nice video. Ozzy is sleepy.
- Drew
Impressive. The sharpness is incredible. And I of course love the dog :-) Oh, $900...
- Todd Hoff
Nice pics and video of Ozzy, Leo :)
- Garmon Estes
great pictures and very cute video of the pooch
- Keith Dugas
Great camera, great pictures, great doggy!!! :-)
- Richard Bitting
So cute. Ozzy also looks a little sleepy :) Great video!
- mahjongmi
I've been toying around with the concept of being able to subscribe to another user's subscription lists en masse. That is, with one click. Additionally, I'd love to be able to export my subscription list in an OPML or XML file. These things would bring friendfeed one step closer to being an open platform.
JSLeFanu, TheAionGuy, Ahsan Ali aka. Slick and 3 other people liked this
Dave Winer has been testing out OPML subscription lists for twitter with his new RSSCloud project, but I would love if friendfeed were the first to do it themselves in a native way.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Or even simpler, if we could see each others' "Lists", and subscribe to them en masse.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Thanks for the suggestion, Steven.
- Ross Miller
would subscribing to eg http://friendfeed.com/options... work for this? Do you need them to be on your subscriptions list & receive '... subscribed' notifications? Just one click seems like it might be too easy to subscribe to more than you wanted to - might need an undo or something.
- immaterial
Re: HowTo: OPML for Twitter subscription lists - http://rsscloud.org/twitter...
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"I call them reading lists and this time around I think we're going to make them popular. I do a weekly podcast with Jay Rosen, NYU Journalism prof, and he's carefully managing his follow list in Twitter so that it is itself a resource for journalism. I think a lot of people have figured this out that subscription lists can be dynamic. Phil read the stuff on the home page of this site and on the walkthrough and see the big picture of what we're doing. http://rsscloud.org/ http://rsscloud.org/walktro... It's really odd that there has been zero press on this. They're just not paying attention. But there are quite a few developers working on this stuff now. And the users are figuring it out too."
- Dave Winer
I'm really excited about this idea. Do you think this may lead to a revival of share.opml.org, but this time for twitter OPML subscription lists rather than RSS subscription lists?
- Steven (optionshiftk)
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These are my first shots from the EP-1. JPEGs alas - uploaded via Mifi and Eyefi. Neither iPhoto nor Lightroom understand the EP-1's RAW file format yet. (ORF).
- Leo Laporte
Those look pretty darn good. Have you played with the video recording yet?
- Darren Landrum
looks great but on the picture of Ozzy I see a little blue pixel not sure what that is about? BTW I see UGM!
- Dakota O'Neill
@Dakota: Taking a look at the original size, it appears to be a lens flare.
- Darren Landrum
I'm still blown a way with the concept of having your photos uploaded remotely via the Eye-Fi and Mi-Fi. So cool :)
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Re: Bad Hair Day #1 - http://badhair.us/#commen...
"I see what you mean. Anyway, you seem like the type of guy who likes to build his own open system. The problem with laconi.ca is that it tries to imitate twitter too much, rather than making any real innovation on its own."
- Steven (optionshiftk)
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