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Old 97s Just like California - Marie

California Stars - Wilco - SAM

Any Beach Boys song. - Jason Griffey

California Uber Alles - kendrak

California Love - kendrak

California Here I Come - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

California Dreaming - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

"Los Angeles" (though it's not about the one in California) or "Calistan" by Frank Black? - Meg V. Meg

Best Coast, "The Only Place" - Jaclyn aka spamgirl

First Class, "Beach Baby" - Meg V. Meg

Hotel California. - RepoRat

I Love L.A., Hooray for Hollywood, Goin to San Francisco - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

Fantastic suggestions. Keep 'em coming. - Marie

L. A. Woman - Katy S

I Remember California - Katy S

"Los Angeles, I'm Yours" by The Decemberists (depending how you feel about The Decemberists) - Meg V. Meg

Sink With California - kendrak

"In California" by Neko Case - kendrak

"California English" by Vampire Weekend - kendrak

California by Joni Mitchell. Also about half the rest of the Joni Mitchell catalog. - laura x from BuddyFeed

There's this list on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Katy S

"Screenwriter's Blues" by Soul Coughing: http://www.youtube.com/watch... (hmmmm NSFW, probably) - Meg V. Meg

Wild Light's "California On My Mind." - Kelli H.

I Left My Heart in San Francisco. Folsom Prison Blues. Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay. Ventura Highway. Do You Know the Way to San Jose? San Franciscan Nights. Save Me, San Francisco. - Anne Bouey

California all the way by Luna - Jason - The Opaque from Android

"Goin' Back to Cali" by LL Cool J? Maybe. - Meg V. Meg

Jason takes me right back to 1993. - laura x from BuddyFeed

driving in LA (missing persons?) and Michelle shocked has one about driving in LA also - RudĩϐЯaЯïan from YouFeed

Michelle shocked, come a long way. missing persons (i think) driving in LA - RudĩϐЯaЯïan from YouFeed

Coming Into Los Angeles (Arlo Guthrie) and San Francisco Bay Blues (as popularized by Clapton). I'd probably have to include the theme song to The O.C. (California by Phantom Planet), as well as the R.E.M. and Decemberists entries suggested above. Song reluctantly left off: Magic Johnson by the Chili Peppers. - Greg Schwartz

"Californication" Red Hot Chili Peppers. - Stephen le Francoeur

@RudĩϐЯaЯïan: Walking in L.A. - Missing Persons & Come A Long Way - Michelle Shocked - Tinfoil 2.0

Dang. Stephen already got in my first through. Um.... "Southern California Wants to Be Western New York" by Dar Williams - Royce's favorite Anna

"California Girls" by Katy Perry (just because) - Royce's favorite Anna

"San Francisco" by Jill Sobule - Royce's favorite Anna

fall asleep? Really? It's like being inside a piston air comprssor or a rock tumbler... Even with the umm "drugs' I can't do sleep ;) - WarLord

It was soothing to me, somehow. I know it doesn't make sense. - Marie

Well it is kinda rhythmic sometimes on a long one it almost seems techo dance club to me but I guess I'm too claustro to relax enough Couple vodkas before my do teh trick #theyfrownonthatthough - WarLord

Yeah, I was feeling all Depeche Mode, but then zzzzzz - Marie

I was afraid I'd jerk awake so i made a point of making myself stay awake. - Betsy #TeamMonique from FFHound(roid)!

They gave me headphones and a choice of radio station, but the background mri banging drowned out npr. Between oldies and mri banging... I could totally have fallen asleep if I'd had my eyes closed. - Betsy #TeamMonique from FFHound(roid)!

:( - WoH: Professor MOTHRA

Were they able to the other one today? - WoH: Professor MOTHRA

Yes, they added the sequence at the end. Luckily it wasn't a long one. - Marie

How about 60? - Anika

How about two 30-year-olds? - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

They are very different ("complementary" is the word people use when they have both). SciFinder indexes way more of the post-1967 literature (and does so much more broadly w/r/t subject and document type); Reaxys focuses on properties/reactions/methods back to 18-19th centuries and is geared toward synthesis workflows (it lets you build recipes!) Right now, each seems to be trying to catch up with the strengths of the other, it's very strange to watch. Main competitor is Web of Science. - Meg V. Meg

Here's a good comparison grid: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/chem... - Meg V. Meg

that grid is pretty great, as are you. thank you! - Marie

*sniff* that's the nicest response I've ever gotten to that explanation - Meg V. Meg

Reaxys is indeed oriented to synthetic chemistry... kind of a bummer that it replaced Gmelin and doesn't seem to do so well with inorganic. It has been better for finding chemical properties for me. In that there's some competition from Springer Materials, CRC Handbook and SciFinder. Scifinder has more properties, but they're often calculated and not as curated. - Christina Pikas

Springer materials is the old Landolt Bornstein with some other stuff mixed in. The L-B stuff is very high quality but its coverage is limited. - Christina Pikas

and LB is pretty darn expensive. [This one volume, such the deal at $9,739 http://www.amazon.com/Ferrous...] - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

Or, you can get all of the 2012 volumes for a little over $50,000! - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

I find it surprising that someone who hates unwarranted generalizations so much would stick to one even after it's been pointed out that it's an insulting generalization. You would be able to tell us in great detail how un-useful and un-funny it is to make a similar name for retired people or non-librarians in the library field. - lris

Wondered what response I would get. You are both, of course, absolutely right, and I apologize. If I ever said that I was never guilty of the things I decry in others...well, that would be wrong. - Walt Crawford

The defense might be that Glasshole would only be used for Google Glasses users who behave the way some smartphone addicts do (that is, keeping them "on" while supposedly carrying on a conversation, driving, etc.), but it's a very weak defense. - Walt Crawford

Note that, while I fully admit that I should not have posted this, I'm not going to delete it--because that would also be wrong. - Walt Crawford

Thanks, Walt. I got a lot of this reaction to my tweet, and was honestly taken aback. I appreciate your response, very much. - Jason Griffey

Group hug! - lris

You're welcome. There is a more sophisticated response, which I might provide in a post. (It has to do with, well, the Segway and Second Life: Choosing to regard a technology as more silly than revolutionary. I might not get around to it, but I think that's partly what's going on.) - Walt Crawford

None of which has much to do with name calling. - lris

Absolutely right. (And after reading Griffey's blog post, I don't think I will write a post. Being dismissive of GG: Yeah, I can see that. Being hostile to users *up front*--even before they show Borgish tendencies--that's unfair.) - Walt Crawford

A google glass on a segway would be cool. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

In turning this towards the actual technology, this rollout has the same feel as Google Plus. Specifically, an engineering solution to the question of being social online. While Plus has changed over time to integrate certain changes, the circles seem like a cacophony of online noise in which only the loudest voices (read: celebrities, online or otherwise) can actually get feedback or... more... - Andy

Man, I like to type. I posted that comment as a reply to your post, Griffey. Yes, I know it's kinda beside your point, but I thought it might help turn the conversation towards the tech. - Andy

Apple will bring out something that will define the market in the next few years... though it might not be as smooth as earlier Apple new-tech (for whatever reason) - awd

I look forward to reading about their patent wars. - Andy

http://whitemenwearinggoogleglass.tumblr.com/ - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

http://blackmenwearinggoogleglass.tumblr.com/ LOLOL - Steele Lawman

http://whitewomenwearinggoogle... Also humorous - Steele Lawman

I wonder how many takers they'll get. - Marie

HAHAHAHAHA *sob* - lris

2013 seems to be the year of publishers trying to figure out what the hell they can get away with. - RepoRat

"Additionally, you may purchase a Noncommercial Common Use License (NCUL) for $500. This license enables readers to use your article for noncommercial purposes without the need to purchase permissions, and it also permits free reproduction of your article." - Meg V. Meg

Unlike. Also, can they even--? No, what am I thinking, they own the copyright, don't they. <head-desk> - Deborah Fitchett

feh. - Marianne

See, this kind of thing (without the PMC aspect) is what I was wondering about with regard to the RUSQ situation: what can/will/does happen when a journal/society/publisher decides to renege on a previous agreement about OA? Obviously there are lots of possible answers to that question and a lot will depend on the contract language, but I think we may see more of this in the near future. - Catherine Pellegrino

How the hell does that work with the already signed contracts? Also, shabby shabby form - Hedgehog from Android

Catherine: And there's one of the strongest arguments for CC-BY: CC licenses are legally binding and can't be undone for a given article once applied. RR: As an optimist, I'd say that's the natural flipside of OA finally gaining some serious traction--looking for every possible way to $ubvert it. - Walt Crawford

Well, the publisher CAN change the license under which it makes an article available. But if I received a copy of the article with a license that allows redistribution, then there's not much point in the publisher doing so, except to try to squeeze money out of people too stupid to google. - DJF

Wow. Ow, too much headdesk. Pre-2006 I published in two journals that were OA and became TA as well as five journals that changed owners so now that stuff belongs to two evil empires and two small tollgates. All self-archived but yeah, get yer rights while you can. - barbara fister

I have an idea: It can go OA 70 years after the death of author. If it's a work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120 years from creation, whichever expires first. That formula has been well tested and should fit better into existing workflows. - lris

As Walt kind of says, I think this is a good thing in the get-worse-before-it-gets-better plan. - Steele Lawman

http://gclibrary.commons.gc.cuny.edu/2013... (tweeted at them too) - Meg V. Meg

I really wish I could get Jill onto FF. She is the person who wrote that article that I linked to earlier. http://dx.doi.org/10... - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

Nicely said! - Walt Crawford

yes, that's VERY good. - RepoRat

I don't get it. As mentioned its already in PMC so what's the point here? - aarontay

Man, this serials stuff makes eBooks look like a gentleman's duel. - Andy

I have a container of faux vanilla faux creamer. want that to go with? - $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian

i felt bad because it was caffeine after all, but i couldn't handle the flavor. my life is so hard. :) - Marie

Ugh. I have some of those in the back of the box, too, and I always try to convince guests to drink them. LOL. - Trish R

I have just one of those cups too. And whole box of undrinkable hot chocolate. No takers. - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

I tossed all the light/blonde and flavored roasts because I knew I wouldn't drink them. I have reusable filters for the Keurig so I can use my favorite coffee roast. I highly recommend them: http://www.amazon.com/Ekobrew.... Also, my condolences, as well. - Kelli H.

The only way I was able to get that one down was to add three black tea bags to it. - Hookuh Tinypants

I've been thinking about getting one of those, Kelli. I've read both good and bad reviews of them so I haven't tried it yet. I'd love to be able to use my favorites in the Keurig. - Trish R

huh, I didn't know Medline indexed Time. - Hedgehog

Real slick, EBSCO, real slick. - Stephen le Francoeur

I don't think they index it consistently, but health-related articles are there. If you have EBSCOhost MEDLINE, do a search for TA "Time" and you'll see results. - JffKrlsn

Incidentally, the way I discovered this was through a search in EBSCO Discovery Service. Hence my concern. Students who have limited to academic journals in EDS would get results from Time... - JffKrlsn

to be fair, this is a problem with the MEDLINE/PubMed data that EBSCO receives. MEDLINE doesn't identify peer-reviewed journals. try using the publication types, e.g, clinical trial. that will help loads. - maʀtha

Those attending the EBSCO lunch at ACRL might find an opportunity to ask this question but with a "when will you be fixing the fact that ..."? Cause a default policy that its academic if we don't know otherwise is probably like of 180 of what faculty want their students to assume.... - Lisa Hinchliffe

I'm more concerned about problems with CINAHL, since EBSCO is the exclusive vendor for CINAHL, by which I mean, put in the damned DOIs. Yes, I've been complaining about this for years. *crawls back into grumpy cave* - maʀtha

martha, but with EDS, EBSCO could choose to show the record from Academic Search Complete rather than from MEDLINE. Yes, people searching MEDLINE specifically are likely to be able to see that the article is not research, clinical trial etc. I'm concerned about the very helpful, clear "Academic Journal" icon that appears next to the non-academic journal article in EDS. - JffKrlsn

Basically Ebsco is saying their academic journal limiter is useless. I am seriously grumpy with vendors right now, and this tipped me over the edge! - kaijsa

(i love love love these kinds of conversations) - $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian

Oh, I know, JffKrisn. Students run into this problem all the time, and it is a problem. - maʀtha

oh my god - Meg V. Meg

What? Time isn't scholarly/peer-reviewed? - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

so how should we go about asking them to solve such a thing? would we have a collective power if we all did x? - Marie

Keep in mind that they are probably reading this thread too :) - ~Courtney F

Couldn't hurt to email support@ebsco.com. Also remember, this is a MEDLINE-only problem. When I've sent them mislabeled titles in other databases they've been responsive. - JffKrlsn from Android

Huh. Would one want EBSCO to make their own call about what is/isn't an academic journal? Would one trust EBSCO to make that call? Would it not be preferable to get the NLM to do this properly? - David Rothman (☤)

EBSCO should be able to do something to remove academic limits from a database if it isn't useful. The EBSCO interface is designed by EBSCO to interact with a commercial database. What limits apply is an interface decision. And since MEDLINE is available through other interfaces *without* this problem, this is a real problem for EBSCO. Why should folks buy EBSCO Medline when it screws badly with the all important Discovery layer? - RudĩϐЯaЯïan

David, this isn't EBSCO making the call, this is asking EBSCO to respond, via indexing, to something that is a stated truth (I would hope they would verify it and not take our word on it). EBSCO isn't deciding what's academic, they make a decision about the search results based on NLM's statement that " NLM does not distinguish between various source types, so we mark everything as academic. " - RudĩϐЯaЯïan

Exactly, Rudi. Honestly, isn't indexing the REASON we subscribe to databases in the first place? I'm also furious that MLAIB doesn't have abstracts--in a citation-only database!-- and I wish dbs added that value for searchers. We have most of the full-text, so it's not a huge prob for our users, but still. It's an essential piece of the evaluation process! - kaijsa

Oy, reply to a different support request late last night (not sure what continent that was coming from!) really has me seething, but it's probably too involved to post here... I've noticed that phone support is usually better than email, but I'm usually hesitant to devote the real-time commitment to it. - JffKrlsn

They fixed it. Now I'm seeing that a number of academic journals are classified as "periodicals" in MEDLINE, but that bothers me less. - JffKrlsn

I'm choosing not to believe it until it happens. - Marie

I've been warned. Guys are starting work early 0630 to get ahead of the heat. :/ - Lnorigb

I need to watch this! - Elena

sweet! gotta set the dvr for that. - Marie

oh wait, it's a web thing. cool. - Marie

it's not difficult to cover the signatures when scanning. - DJF

For the ones that already exist as PDF docs, it would be a real pain to rescan them with the signatures covered up. But, I suppose it could be done. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

Only scan the signed page and then use AcrobatPro to swap the pages? (or just remove the sig-page from the "general use" version? - awd

ooh, I've been wanting to do this for a while. Maybe I'll make it a priority on my summer side project list! I should really talk to IT about pswd protected folders though...no idea how to go about that. - MontglaneChess

i'm curious about the pswd protected folder - do you guys use shared drives? or are you doing it some other way? - ~Courtney F

we do use shared drives but i want the data somewhere else, too, so was thinking web server. do you have other ideas? i'm open! - Marie

But not really. :) - Bren from iPhone

Let me guess: Cheryl is in da house! :) - Lois: #TeamMonique

She is, but we bought it instead of making it. - LB: #TeamMonique

*celebration* - Marie

Marie, es-tu française? - Bren from iPhone

non. - Marie

ermahgerd. - Headless Gnad Kicker

WANT! - Benny Bucko <Team Melly> from FFHound!

Where did you buy it? - Lois: #TeamMonique

Same place I got the cheese straws at Christmas. - LB: #TeamMonique from Android

You're in charge of cake and cheese straws for the family now. :) - Lois: #TeamMonique

Dawson's? You know the Mennonites make those cakes for them?! YUMMY!!! - Jenny from Android

For the caramel we had a choice of Mennonite or Dawson, and we went with Dawson for the "gritty" caramel. Delicious! - LB: #TeamMonique

In the big picture? I don't know. But it clearly is a big deal for some people. - Victor Ganata

Given that sports are one of the largest media vectors targeting youth in our culture, I'd say yes. The entertainment industry, news media, and the political realm all have gay role models you can point to. The male-dominated sports industry really didn't have that, at least for one of the "big" sports, who was a currently playing athlete. - Jennifer Dittrich

For a pro male athlete in a BIG TESTOSTERONE-LADEN MALE-DOMINATED SPORT, it is. It shouldn't be, but it is. Also long overdue. - Walt Crawford

Given the hate that still exists, even if it isn't a big deal, banking some credits could be handy. I can't wait for the response to "I'm gay" to be "So?" but for that to happen, you have to go a bit beyond - Johnny from iPhone

That was pretty much our response to a friend of ours Johnny. His relief was palpable. Though we did acknowledge what a huge thing it was for him to do. - Headless Gnad Kicker

the gym teacher from my high school was just fired for listing her SO in her mother's obituary. she hadn't come out to any of her students or colleagues. for real, in 2013 this happened. - Marie

Far out, that's friggin' ridiculous. - Headless Gnad Kicker

have you had the spread? it's tasty, especially with Nutella :) - ~Courtney F

yes, it's what they serve on delta. i haven't tried the spread but i may treat myself to a jar sometime. :) - Marie

i need to buy those cookies then. they always help calm my stomach - Sir Shuping is just sir

www.biscoff.com or go to biscoff.com/delta and get cookies and airline miles! I just brought a wrapper home from my trip this weekend, so that's why I know this. - t-ra: not givin up

They sell them at Kroger, Sir. - LB: #TeamMonique from Android

With guacamole! :) - Anne Graham

ANNE. - holly #ravingfangirl

She's right, you know. - Zamms

guac on the side, right? sometimes i like to mix in spicy sausage crumbles into the queso, along with Rotel. - Marie

NO GUAC. i use Rotel in mine a lot. the spicy sausage sounds FABU. - holly #ravingfangirl

oh, man. My father in law makes cheese dip with 1/2 lb spicy sausage and 1/2 lb ground beef, velveeta and rotel. I eat it until I'm sick. Damn you both! - ~Courtney F

mwahahaha. - Marie

Sounds like an exciting day all around. Have the old people left yet? - sglassme

...they're still here. - Sarah G.

Oh, I didnt even mention that smiley went on a three hour geocaching adventure at the state park. He's gonna sleep good tonight. - Sarah G.

We can have parallel snarky and non-snarky tracks, with prizes for people that guess which is which most often. Like arXiv vs. snarXiv. - John Dupuis

I want to moderate the snarky track. - Andy

Depending on the time, would like to come in too. - aarontay

I think it should be at least 12 hours so that everyone can come! - Megan loves summer

Maybe something like noon to midnight eastern time? That will be like 5pm to 5am UT. What is that in Australia or NZ or Singapore? - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

Midnight to noon in Western Australia! - Megan loves summer

That sounds like a great idea - John: Thread Killer

Will there be a dance party? - Running Slow

The Dance Party will be in Third Life. [We have to invent this future.] - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

We also need an award to present, like the Shovers & Makers or something. And the trophy needs to be a cod slicer. - John Dupuis

you people crack me up - maʀtha

Andy can take on Third Life. He's a futurist. - Running Slow

If I can't moderate, I do want to talk to everyone about 5D printing. - Andy

We could call the Shovers and Makers award simply the S&M award. Leg lamp? - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

we tried that 15 years ago and it didn't work. count me in. - $tephanie•Cog$ciLibrarian

I think that'd be 4am - 4pm New Zealand time. Give or take some daylight savings. Anyway, doable. I think we should have a session where someone Skypes in to someone with a Scopia connection to someone with Adobe Connect. - Deborah Fitchett

Typical weekday, Friday, or a Saturday? - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

one of those super quick read digital kitchen thermometers? - MontglaneChess

A never-ending supply of high quality chocolate. - Katy S

a peanut butter stirrer - http://www.amazon.com/Witmer-... - ellbeecee

^ oooo! Want that! - Running Slow

Conference flask. - Marie

Wouldn't a camel back work better than a flask? ;) - Running Slow

Indeed. - Marie

I seriously need a coffee grinder brush - RudĩϐЯaЯïan

Bread maker would make the house smell good. - Yo Joe. No, go slow.

Monkey butler - Chelle Chelle Ro Ro

Chelle Chelle, I keep reading that comment as "Monkey butter" ... bleh - awd

A microplane grater - Hedgehog

I just want a house elf. - Catherine Pellegrino

so you support the oppression of magical minorities to provide free domestic labour? - DJF

Pretty much, yeah. - Catherine Pellegrino

that's what children are for (without the magical bit) - DJF

When he can reach the controls on the washer and dryer, I'll be all over this, you better believe it. - Catherine Pellegrino

Apple corers are great. - Deborah Fitchett