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yeah, I saw some pictures of that kind of thing - Logical Extremes

o...k...? - Valley

Bow-chicka-wow-wow. - Anika Malone

@Anika lol - anna awesomesauce

haha, are we talking about Kegal exercises here? ;) - Nicholas Kreidberg

i've increased the 'wait' length before i start working out again.... - Morgan Haley

Your a machine! - orionstarr

Wow...LOL! I woulda never thought. - ♫ Rahsheen™

I like running, I just don't have patience or excitement for weights? - orionstarr

Opposite for me. If I do 20-30 minutes of weights maybe 3 days a week and I will get a little cardio in while I build muscle and lose fat. I don't have the patience to do straight cardio, though. I'd have to be playing a sport or something. - ♫ Rahsheen™

I used to not like weights either...I think working at a gym for a few months is what made the difference. Got me thinking differently. - ♫ Rahsheen™

i figure that since i send a payment to the gym every month, i shouldn't have to go there and work out. - Morgan Haley

I could use a workout (at a gym with weights for all you all with your minds elsewhere) right about now. - Daryl Burns

That's exactly what they're expecting you to do. How they make money. Majority of people just pay every month and you never know they exist. - ♫ Rahsheen™

Good point when I was part of a gym I did more toning and lifting. Now I just run, run and run more! So I'm slim and tone but not ripped like you. - orionstarr

Other problem with me and cardio is that I'm skinny by default. No matter what I do. If I do too much cardio, I'll become a skeleton. That would be gross. - ♫ Rahsheen™

I'm like you. I hate cardio that's not associated with some type of sport (usually soccer). I love lifting weights. Love is probably a strong word but I do enjoy strengh training and the tired but satisfied feeling I get after a good workout. - Daryl Burns

Yea I love ultimate frisbee, I play every week with my friends this is a great cardio sport! I love running though to I do consider it a sport, just more of a solo one. - orionstarr

I'm the opposite- need to do almost all cardio, weight training adds too much bulk (farm girl physique) - anna awesomesauce

It's weird. I'll run all day if a soccer field is involved but I don't really like to run outside of that context. My Dad and Mom are big runners but I've never seen the appeal. - Daryl Burns

@Daryl for me it's more of a mental release. - orionstarr

HAHA, Same here with the soccer, Daryl. I will chase the ball, chase a forward/halfback whatever. I just can't run just to be running. I think there is a mental zen-type thing involved with that that I just can't get into. - ♫ Rahsheen™

Yea it's called the runner's high! - orionstarr

I felt that way with basketball, then started running to get better at basketball, now bball is too accident prone so now just run. It's not fun but it's definitely the most efficient workout for a busy schedule. - anna awesomesauce

You folks make me proud. As for gym activities, if I'm not punching or kicking, I'm unable to be amused. - MiɳiMagɘ (Sexy Scimitar)

No. Fuck the union insanity and fatcat execs. I would only be for it only if all the execs took massive pay cuts and the unions cut down ridiculous benefits but that will never happen. - Leather Donut

No. They've had more time, and more second chances, than most industries to fix what was wrong. - Rick Powell

I'm conflicted - primarily because family members work in related industries and their jobs would be affected; some are already on work/hours reduction. - Katy Southern

No because when it will stop. - orionstarr

No. The sooner we burn out these warts the better. - RefD

Bush's tax incentive to small business owners to write off most or all of the price of a large vehicle over $60,000 was like a gift from the heavens to the American auto industry. They had that gift for 8 years, dropped directly in their lap. So many vehicles were sold through this tax loophole that now we have a glut of giant trucks and SUV's on the road. And yet, after gas goes up a dollar or two, Detroit goes immediately in the toilet. This was bad business all around. I say no bailout. - Phil Glockner

No - I don't think inefficient businesses that can't make money because of crappy products should be "rewarded." The moral hazard has already been crossed with these bailouts. What next, Yahoo! gets a bailout? The cast of Heroes when their show gets cancelled? - Jason Kaneshiro

NO! NON! NADA! A bailout is the LAST thing the dinosaur auto sector needs. Give them Big Bucks for INNOVATION, electric cars and every other truly GOOD idea out there. We need vehicles. And North America has some of the finest auto manufacturers around. But we need an overhaul of the *type* of vehicles being produced. OIL is the past. - V for Veselka

Oh and I want MY bailout - Leather Donut

Yes- with conditions. Cars must be inovative using air and or solar power. These cars must be afordable, lets say 4,000 range. If we loose GM many will loose jobs "vertical" and "cross vertical markets" are connected to GM. We need GM to employee our young people. We also need GM to be a part of the trade schools that Regan removed. Lets do away with the ego's and start with soloa powered cars made by GM.One of the ideas is to give GM money for "innovation." Here's what one man working with high school students accomplished:"SEE VIDEO" :)http://www.brasschecktv.com/pa... - SekhemetsHathor

See this. http://friendfeed.com/e/dd02be... Do you want more of this? You forget these are politicians we are talking about. Most of them cant spell economy yet wield decisions with enormous financial consequence. - Leather Donut

no.no.no.no.no. why should you bailem out? shitty company? they deserve it. look at Toyota. great company. but what's the misconception? "Not American." What's the rules for being an American company? Toyota is firmly entrenched in this market, having a large workforce in America, strong market stake, buying power, sponsorship, establishing institutions, everything. Welcome to the globalized world, this sort of pseudo-protectionism should stop. - ♣genieyclo♣

sound like the auto industry needs investors. hey, auto-dudes, i'll allow the gub'ment to invest in a project for green cars. not $$ for SUVs, or golden parachutes, etc. green cars, get it? - MikeAmundsen

I want to say no, but $25 Billion is still cheaper than $125 Billion. I don't want to think that way but I can't help it. - Occasional Headbanger

They will be bailed out with conditions. GM needs to step it up and I agree that Toyota is a great company. But regardless of what you and I think it will never be our choice as long as you stay a slave to a system that regards you only as a consumer. Just like the bank bail out, I never okayed that one and we all are paying for it. Watching the fat cows get fatter. Put up or shut up Sovereign or bust! - SekhemetsHathor

No. Let them file bankruptcy and force them to restructure. The airlines did it, right? Again - no more bailouts until WE get one. - Vince DeGeorge

an jin san'san anjinliğini bil! - Meriç Kara (welebrity)

I love kitties! - orionstarr

I like the colors and eyes! - orionstarr

she is very cute. still light grey and white, a very funny half chinese eyes :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

so CUTE. - Derrick

What happened to it's nose? - orionstarr

nothing. when she sleeps, it s going pinky. but on the first month photo, there was a little wound. i found her and sister Azis in the street without mom. She had some bad wounds around her eyes too. - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

Awwww, what a pretty kitty. :) - Thankful Molly

she's grown up to be a lovely little lady cat.. hooray for kitties!!! - Melissa Maskevich

my first cat was dying of cat flu when I dragged it into the car from the farm my mum kept her horse on.. was such a tiny little thing. She lasted about 14 years after that and was a total menace! One time she dragged a seagull twice its size home. Mum had to bury it cause she kept on digging it out of the bin >.< - alphaxion

@molly thanks yes she s really pretty especially when she wakes up at 5 am :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@melissa there is one more little lady cat here :) so yes horray :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@alphaxion: a seagull :)) OMG! This little lady plays with toy mouse :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

ben bunun kolunu bacağını tutar burnundan ısırırım - Murat Küçükosman

@murat :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

شخم برای مخمل - Jalal Samiee

Caption contest? - possible248

kawai! - Miranda

+++ for Shogun name. - Josh Haley via fftogo

Hey its Not Caturday Today !!!! - johnpiercy

yes it is catuesday :))) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@josh mom is a shogun fan :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

1st pic: "So, this device you are using, human. A camera, you say? I may have uses for such a thing, yes." 2nd pic: "Heh, u don no iz peed in ur shooz" - Slippy Lane

omg-adorable!!!!!! I am a sucker for cute cat noses and Jin San has a top 10 kissable nose. - jlt

@slippy no words for youuu! try to focus on the cat, dont be an obsessive - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

jlt she loves to be kissed.:) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@webosapien: :-) She is a beautiful cat. I had already appreciated her cuteness. Still, I must make funny comments. If I don't make funny comments, then I am not Slippy Lane, and who else could I be? - Slippy Lane

Also....now I want a cat :-) - Slippy Lane

elimdeki tırnak izleri geçsin sıra onda :) nihuhahahaayt kaçamicak kıstırıcam kenarda ısırıcam burnunu - Murat Küçükosman

Now I want to watch Shogun again. - Josh Haley

so cute - Cee Bee

@slippy just become slippy lane :) it is ok :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@josh sometimes she acts as a samurai :) is it enough for you? :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

cee bee she is looking at the screen right now.may be she reads your comment i dont know :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

tell her i said hi and that she needs to eat all her food - Cee Bee

what a lil munchkin! - sofarsoshawn

Yes! Feed her quickly as possible. :) - Emre Erdogan

depressing yes, but very good advice. - Morgan Haley

Tina's one smart cookie. - Ladybug Heather

Eric, the only problem with paying down the credit cards first is that an emergency puts you right back on the credit cards... I know some people who built it up in cycles: get take 3 months to get one month of an EF set aside and then pay down a CC for 3 months. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

I haven't even done the math properly yet and I'm already crying...what about those of us not employed NOW? Ack! Nevermind me, I am having the writers blues, pay no mind. - WorldofHiglet

Good point Tina, credit cards can be an endless cycle. Add it to death and taxes. - Eric @ CS Techcast

WorldofHiglet, I've been there and it's impossible for me to describe how scary it is. We're looking at the possibility of my husband not having a job at the end of the month (his company is laying off 10% nationwide) so we're brainstorming ideas of training or jobs he could get... He's rooting for bartending since he enjoys it and knows the managers at several of the local bars from playing pool. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

I work on computers, I'll always have a job. - orionstarr

orionstar, what you say is somewhat similar to what a farmer, 200 years ago in England, seeing all the industrial fuss, would claim: that he will always have a job because it is in food business and never mind the machines. this is not so, as we know it currently. - Hayk

I wish it were that easy, orionstarr. I went almost a year without a full time job when I first moved back here. It was a really crappy year. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

Good advice TIna. I second paying down CCards first. Best advice I ever got was to sell some stock investments to pay down CCdebt. At the time, I was annoyed, but the math makes too much sense. Your investments have to do above and beyond your "losses" generated from high interest debt just to break even. Treat all your money as one "basket," be honest about your net worth, and you'll see what needs to be allocated where to pay off debt and get to saving. - Jason Kaneshiro

And second - if 6 months for an emergency fund seems too daunting, start with 1. Then 2. Then 3. Even 1, 2, or 3, is better than 0! - Jason Kaneshiro

Tina, I wish you and hubby all the best, planning helps you take control and leaves you better prepared mentally if things go wrong. I will keep my fingers crossed for you both. I thought your post was great. Not what I wanted to hear, but great nonetheless. Things are getting tough but there is always an alternative. And I will have this draft done by Christmas which will make everything a bit better, having a tangible product for all the work done. - WorldofHiglet

I know guys! Trust me I've been out of work off and on through the 2000's so I've always had this worry. Nothing new for me. I was only kidding about what I said. But I do think having a trade is crucial. - orionstarr

Jason, my issue with the CCs vs the EF first is that it's not always about the math (i.e., which one will cost you less money in the long term). Yes, paying CCs down first will cost less money in the long run. BUT: if you lose your job tomorrow, can you make your mortgage payment on your CC? Your car payment? What about your CC bill itself, how will that get paid? To me (and YMMV of course), having a bit of liquid cash set aside first made more sense than saving $100 in interest over 5 years. - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

orionstarr, so it is! and computers would probably stay big, in one way or another, for some time :) - Hayk

@Tina I suppose it depends on how much CC debt you have, at what interest rate. Some folks running about with 10K in credit card debt, that needs to be taken care of, and it's especially odd if they have 10K in the stock market at the same time, and even stranger if they were to have 10K in cash right there, available to pay it off right this second. It does get back to the interest rate, though. - Jason Kaneshiro

Jason, that I completely agree with. *Especially* if their money is sitting in a brokerage or bank with fees... - Stupid Blogger (aka Tina)

A good compromise might be to take advantage of these 0% for one year type CC balance transfers and use that year to get serious about saving up an emergency fund, then tackle the CC debt. - Jason Kaneshiro

http://www.indexedvisuals.com/... - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

my brother showed me his last surgery operations photos today. it was a liver transplant operation and in the real photos, it is an absolute mercedes logo on the chest :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

I got one tatted on my chest. - orionstarr

@orionstarr really? - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

HAHA! - orionstarr

ahh trick :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

I'm feeling ahh... silly. - orionstarr

@orionstarr :)))) u made me laugh really at a very nervous time :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

Awesome! Glad I could make a difference. - orionstarr

Off topic: İngilizce yayınları paylaştığın FF hesabını unsubsicre edeceğim. Yanlış anlaşılmasın sonra. (: - Simto ALEV

@simto (yanlış anlaşılma yok :)) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@orion u did thanks :) - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

We have barely scratched the surface. - orionstarr

Joined :) - Neal "thePuck" Jansons

Count me in. - Derrick Burns

ahh.. never got into it! - orionstarr

are you serious? wow, steve, i love you more than any other geek in the world - Melissa Maskevich

that must be brutal! - orionstarr

It's 61 outside here. I've resisted putting any heat on in here, but I've not been warm all day. I wish it was over 75 all year round!. Screw the seasons! - Ian May

We got our first real cool spell this week. Last night dipped down into the 40's but back up to 75 and sunny outside. Yea I agree Ian I love the warm weather all year round. You feel better mentally to. - orionstarr

just 1 point??? You're tough tonight ;) - Lindsey

What? NO SOUP FOR YOU!! - Mo Kargas

+2.3 Mo - Lindsey

I think it's time for me to start watching Dexter. - Bibi

Yeah, exactly what does it rule, and why does it rule that? - xero

Apples do rule. They're tasty and come in many colors.... - Rich Harris

apple type roll call! I'll start: Granny Smith - Morgan Haley

nom nom nom - xero

Fuji! - Amanda H.

Golden Delicious? - MiɳiMagɘ (Sexy Scimitar)

McIntosh ! - Logical Extremes

Washington? - Carlos Granier-Phelps

Martin-Paltrow??? - Carlos Granier-Phelps

Did Apple win the election? - Vincent van Wylick

Apple will one day RULE the world. Thats the kind of a new world order I'm digging! Ya dig? - orionstarr

If I could and it was closer I'd work part time at the Apple store here in town! I want to share my passion for macs. - orionstarr

Spye - Mark VandenBerg

Windows Drools! ;) - Joshua Schnell

"Don't crash ever" is definitely not a rule. I'm living proof. Wish that it were. - Fleagle

Apple doesn't make rules, it creates and exceeds standards. - orionstarr

bu sayılar bize o kadar uzakki, TR'de %90 oranında internete güvensizlik devam ediyor. Hollywood ve medya maalesef internetten kredi kartı bilgisinin çalışnabileceğini sürekli söylüyorlar, halbuki çalındığı yer fiziksel dünya(restoran vb.) kullanıldığı yer internet. Rsikleri hep aynı - Savas Sakar

@savas % 90 biraz büyük bir oran sanki bizim için? Genç nüfusun yaşlı nüfusa oranını düşününce bu oran bana biraz abartılı gibi geliyor. Internetten alışverişe çalınma riskini düşünerek karşı çıkanlar genelde 40 + üstü. 25 milyon kullanıcının yaş demografisini görebilsek aslında daha fazla görebileceğiz bu oranları. - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

@webosapien - kart kullanıcılarını uzun süre inceledik. POS cirolarının %1'i(diğer mail order işlemleri saymadığım için), kart kullanımınında da bindeler söz konusu. Genel eğilim internetten sürekli alışveriş yapan küçük bir kısım var, bu grupta sanal kart kullananlar çoğunlukta. int. bankacılığı kullanan çok ama alışveriş yapan çok az. Çok azdan kastım kartlı alışverişler içindeki oranı. 25 milyon kullanıcı bence duplicated bir sayı. Kim neye göre saymış? - Savas Sakar

@webosapien - Eskiden superonline, turknet vb. her aboneliği ayrı ayrı sayıp toplarlardı. Şimdi cep telefonları ile internette gezeni, evinde adsl olanı ve işindede kullananı 3 kere saydığında böyle sayılar çıkabilir. Kimse aktif abonelikten bahsetmiyor ki ttnet dahil. kayıtlı kullanıcı sayıları ne kadar ölçü olabilir. Ben bu tip sayıları 3 yada 4'e bölme taraftarıyım. Bunları yazmak zor denk geldiğimizde konuşmak lazım. - Savas Sakar

@savas haklısın bit ara konuşalım - webosapien (Burcu Tüzün)

Very true! - orionstarr

This gives me an idea1 - orionstarr

What you can't see in this picture is the double cheeseburger with extra bacon and beans in a can. And some hot chocolate (without marshmallows). - WorldofHiglet

dude . . . you're a master with MS Paint!!1! - Lindsey

My 'shopping skills know no boundz :p - Josh Haley

He did it olde skoole... printed them out, taped them together, and scanned them! - Logical Extremes

LOL - Nicholas Kreidberg

Yep, cut and paste, analogue-style FTW! - WorldofHiglet

don't show this around orange county! lots of fires out this way and there are ashes all over the ground here at my office. when you walk outside, the ashes blow all over the place with each step. makes me wonder what we're breathing! - Morgan Haley

tsk tsk Tina - Josh Haley

damnz - ♣genieyclo♣