Silicon Valley startups are in the same situation. The difference? No Wall Street firms offering $300K/year for top developers. As Pardo says, "There's no shortage of smart, hardworking engineers. There's a shortage of smart, hardworking engineers willing to work for very little money."
- Piaw Na
I would imagine though that the Wall Street money is unsustainable in the long run, if Wall Street's $300K/year salaries are based on tricks like HFT more than substance.
- Andrew C (✓)
BTW, why doesn't he suggest more outside recruitment? Even Silicon Valley firms relocate people from elsewhere.
- Andrew C (✓)
Outside recruitment is hard! Especially into NYC. When I was getting my $300K/year phone calls from recruiters, the minute they mentioned NYC, I'd hang up and say, "You guys are not serious. $300K/year in NYC doesn't go anywhere." One of my friends said, "You're crazy. Give me that phone!" I gave him the phone, he put on the suit and went to NYC, and then came back saying, "OK, I really hated NYC. And $300K/year in NYC doesn't go anywhere."
- Piaw Na
Andrew, they've been paying $300K/year for a good long time. I think it's very sustainable. There's no sign at all the salaries are falling on Wall Street.
- Piaw Na
Hmph. Well, in that case, I guess non-finance software in NYC is screwed if they can't come up with better salaries.
- Andrew C (✓)
Well, they can offer a better work environment, like Joel Spolsky.
- Piaw Na
Study after study keeps showing that salary isn't the primary determinant of happiness, and I think people are starting to realize this. Of course, there are bounds to this statement, but as Piaw says, intangibles mean a lot once the basics are met.
- Mr. Gunn
Hahahaha. I knew someone who was on the verge of quitting. Then management dropped a $1M award on that person. No more talk of quitting. Money talks. $1M buys a lot of employee loyalty. :-)
- Piaw Na
LOL, it would take a lot of intangibles to make up for a million bonus.
- Mr. Gunn
@Mr Gunn - yes, but cost of living in Manhattan is reportedly sky-high and I think that may scare some people off from moving to New York, at least at typical startup salary levels.
- Andrew C (✓)
Cost of living in Silicon Valley is reportedly sky-high too. The difference is: an engineer at the right startup in Silicon Valley is top of the heap, while the engineer at a financial firm in wall street? He's a relative peon.
- Piaw Na
"The problem is, most people in NYC don't understand the value of stock options" - look to me they understand them perfectly well, and can do the math. You'll need a lot of stock options to compensate giving up a 300K salary, AND you need a big exit for it to be worthwhile at all. $20 million exits after 5 years just aren't going to be worth it unless you own the whole company.
- Nick Lothian
I looked into moving from San Diego to New York for a job once, and they'd have had to almost double my salary to make it worth it, but I'm not making anything close to 300K, either, so I would agree it's more about relative status and opportunities than it is about the money (unless there are million dollar bonuses involved, of course).
- Mr. Gunn
Yes, the bonuses offered were in the million dollar range. But you'd still have to live in NYC. :-)
- Piaw Na
You say that like it's a bad thing! Sheesh. The only places I want to live (aside from Vancouver) are SF or New York.
- Andrew C (✓)
I am with Andrew. I love NYC. It's pretty much the only non-west coast US City I'd live and work in (well maybe Cambridge, MA)
- Deepak Singh
and with a million dollar bonus, you might even be able to afford rent!
- Andrew C (✓)
Yeah well, I still think like an outdoors person. The outdoor life in NYC doesn't exist, hence, living in NYC would be a major burden. But most people don't think like me, which is why they only need to pay million dollar bonuses. It'd take quite a bit more than that to move me to NYC. :-)
- Piaw Na
Yeah, the cycling in NYC sucks as much as the cycling inside SF. Neither places are really acceptable for me without huge amounts of compensation. Fortunately, huge amounts of compensation are available within Silicon Valley, so there's no reason to compromise on outdoor life.
- Piaw Na
Left to right, as if you didn't know already: Dan Hsiao, Casey Muller, Ana Yang, Jim Norris, Tudor Bosman, Bret Taylor, Paul Buchheit (with Camilla), Sanjeev Singh, Kevin Fox.
- Tudor Bosman
That's why I love today's web : you can talk with the people that build the next web, and see those who build your current web. Congrats guys!
- Zackatoustra
FriendFeed Team, I love you !!!! Thanks to you all, I'm very happy everyday!!!
- @Renchin@
So that was the TGIFF ("Thank Goodness It's FriendFeed") party? Perhaps slightly off-topic, but if Camiila hasn't been betrothed yet, have I got a grandson for her ;-))
- ianf ⌘
TGIFF was excellent. Great event and great people.Thanks for the invite and hospitality.
- AJ Kohn
Louis, thank you and thank you to the FriendFeed team for making a killer product and hosting a great open house!
- Brian Solis
(bump) Ana and Casey are now married. Here's a pic of them on the left, between Ross and Jim. Congratulations to Ana and Casey! (per http://friendfeed.com/jessica...)
- Louis Gray
:))))))))) مال بعد از عیده. اواخر فروردین فک کنم
- Aly
No, that's the real color of the fish. "The Copper River flows in the state of Alaska. Almost 300 miles in length, this wild rushing river empties into Prince William Sound at the town of Cordova. Salmon that originate in these pristine waters are challenged by its length and its strong, chill rapids. Consequently, Copper River salmon are strong, robust creatures with a healthy store of...
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- Paul Buchheit
"In fact, Iran is one of the service’s most active countries, and it is the most active region as defined by comments per user per day, according to Taylor. Now you can see why Iran apparently wanted to block it. FriendFeed is great at facilitating conversations around topics. The reason for this is that it’s so quick to post a comment and have it be added to a thread. While this can sometimes lead to an angry mob situation, it also can be extremely effective at having a conversation about an important topic in real-time. Except, of course, when the Iranian government blocks you. The only people getting on to FriendFeed from inside Iran now are apparently doing so through proxies."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Strange that MG Siegler doesn't mention that one of the reasons FF is so popular in Iran may also be due to it being available natively in فارسی [Farsi].
- ianf ⌘
Also, since the headline is ambiguous, I should clarify that Iran is the most active in terms of "comments per user per day", not in total activity (the US still has the most activity in absolute terms).
- Paul Buchheit
I love the troll that's in the comments there who is baiting friendfeeders. Ahh, lame. If no one cares about friendfeed except for me and Louis, what are all you doing here? And how come these posts have so many likes: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Robert Scoble
TC loyalists are on the defense... it's been a rough week and a half for them :-)
- Chris Heath
All of these services are showing their value at a time like this. I wish the social media showdown would stop long enough for people to see that.
- Eric
Chris: on the other hand, maybe "Karen" is right. Maybe you're all in the mob and Louis and I are the mob bosses. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
To tell you the truth, I didn't even hop over to TC to read what all the hubub was about... I haven't had enough alcohol in me yet... :-) I try to stick to that old mantra: "don't feed the trolls"
- Chris Heath
Amazing how helpful a service can be when it can operate in the language the users use...
- Aron Michalski
@Robert: I'll admit that Friendfeed has it's mob-like tendencies, but no more so (and certainly not worse than) many other services. It's a danger of any hyper-connected online community. Hive minds form because people congregate around the concept that ideas are shared, as is Trust. When you trust intrinsically your sources for information, you're less likely to fact-check everything, and can be quickly mobilized into action. Sometimes this is a good thing, and sometimes it can go overboard really quick.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Some folks would rename "mobs" to the term "swarms". Interest runs high and often passionate in a number of different areas, and you're absolutely right about shared ideas and/or affinities.
- Karoli
Karoli, good point - I would add that 'mob' would be a more overtly pejorative term. Lots of people claim semantics when they're misunderstood but fail to understand themselves the meanings of the words that they're saying/typing.
- Chris Heath
Some might rename "mobs" to "swarms." I wouldn't. At least not always. There have been times, at least a handful that I've personally witnessed, where it rightly *should* be called a mob, though you're right to say that it isn't *always* the case.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, agreed. My point really was that intent is the defining point. I consider a mob a group intent on destruction. A swarm is more of a group intent around discovery. One is certainly more benevolent than the other. Sometimes, like with the Iranian elections, the swarm is also a mob, but in that case, destruction may not be a bad thing, if the goal is to enforce the true will of the people. I'm not sure it is, by the way. I do believe the results were bogus, however.
- Karoli
@Karoli. I'm with you re: results and whether they're the will of the people or the mob (or swarm) mentality in that both candidates have(had) serious issues with the concept of freedom and democratic governance. Since NO ONE becomes a viable candidate in Iran w/o the authorization of the mullahs, I would hazard a guess that the protesters on both sides are merely choosing between the...
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- Molly
"A cream used to treat the early signs of skin cancer may erase wrinkles and leave behind younger-looking skin, US researchers said on Monday. They said Valeant Pharmaceuticals' cream Efudex, which is used to treat actinic keratoses, a precancerous form of squamous cell carcinoma, improved the appearance of skin, smoothing out rough spots and wrinkles, improving skin color, and erasing brown spots. Sachs said the cream appears to be causing a wound healing response that leads to an increase in collagen production, which is improving the appearance of wrinkles. "The drug has been around for many years," said Dr. Dana Sachs of the University of Michigan, whose study appears in the Archives of Dermatology. Sachs said it has been used for four decades to treat actinic keratoses, which appear as a scaly or crusty bump on the skin. They most commonly appear on sun-exposed areas such as the face, neck, forearms or lips."
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"They studied 21 people aged 56 to 85 with actinic keratoses and sun damage. The volunteers used the cream twice daily on the face for two weeks and the team measured changes in the skin, taking facial biopsies over a six-month period. The drug had a significant effect. "People's skin was much softer," Sachs said. "The texture was improved. There are fewer wrinkles around the upper cheek and eyes." The researchers also noticed skin appeared less yellow and more even toned with fewer brown spots."
- RAPatton
"The researchers also noticed skin appeared less yellow and more even toned with fewer brown spots. Sachs said for patients with precancerous spots, the findings may be an added inducement to finish treatment. It may be useful at treating the signs of sun damage in other patients as well, she said. Actinic keratoses are caused by years of sun damage and can lead to squamous cell...
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- RAPatton
pretty fascinating. i read about a substance called rose bengal that's currently being tested and supposed to be a possible cancer cure for melanoma, breast cancer as well as work well for some immuno-skin disorders such as psoriasis and eczema: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... & http://www.pvct.com/
- Cee Bee
That was a pretty strange video even without the literal version.
- Amit Patel
At some point in the 80s I must have seen this video on MTV, and the combination of ninjas, fencers, football players, flying altar boys and fonzie clones must have seemed perfectly sensible back then!
- Doug Beeferman
"# Thou Shalt Not Simply Trot Out thy Usual Shtick # Thou Shalt Dream a Great Dream, or Show Forth a Wondrous New Thing, Or Share Something Thou Hast Never Shared Before # Thou Shalt Reveal thy Curiosity and Thy Passion # Thou Shalt Tell a Story # Thou Shalt Freely Comment on the Utterances of Other Speakers for the Skae of Blessed Connection and Exquisite Controversy # Thou Shalt Not Flaunt thine Ego. Be Thou Vulnerable. Speak of thy Failure as well as thy Success. # Thou Shalt Not Sell from the Stage: Neither thy Company, thy Goods, thy Writings, nor thy Desparate need for Funding; Lest Thou be Cast Aside into Outer Darkness. # Thou Shalt Remember all the while: Laughter is Good. # Thou Shalt Not Read thy Speech. # Thou Shalt Not Steal the Time of Them that Follow Thee"
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
"This is the moment a goose was caught performing an extraordinary upside-down contortion as it battled to land in heavy winds. The bird was captured by a wildlife photographer flying with its neck twisted 180 degrees and its body seemingly facing the wrong way. The manoeuvre may look painful but it is a known tried and tested way of braking, called whiffling. In amazing twists and turns, birds spill air out of their wings and can slow down rapidly and reduce height. The results, however, are not usually this extreme."
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
April this rules, great find, and is yet another example of the unlikely ways in which unlikely things just *work* whether or not it makes any sense to us or not. Cheers.
- thinfilms
in an aircraft, it's called a "forward slip" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... -- usually performed when you're on final and you realize you need to lose some altitude in a hurry. ironically, the only human to try and forward slip while inverted was Goose from "Top Gun."
- Karim
I encourage you to check out Jesus, you might like him. He said "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean." - http://www.biblegateway.com/passage...
- τorƍue
He apparently also said, "I come not to bring peace, but a sword" and "but those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." (Matthew 10:34) & (Luke 19:27). You assume religion is rejected out of ignorance. In fact, on average, those who reject religion are more knowledgeable about it than believers.
- Tanath
Tanath, many who reject Christ do so because of the hypocrisy of those who claim to follow him. As you pointed out, Jesus indeed said “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's...
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- τorƍue
The quote from Luke 19:27 could use more context. It is the conclusion to a story that Jesus is telling about a nobleman who goes to a distant country to receive a kingdom, but as he goes, the citizens send a delegation saying that they don't want him to be king. When the nobleman returns, he has the detractors slaughtered. The parable would have been familiar to the hearers, as it is...
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- τorƍue
The Old Testament God is a bit of a dick.
- Rob H.
"if the resulting average is a value out of range, the averaged value is changed to the low or high limit value". That's just good fault tolerant design!
- Hayes Haugen
@Gabe, great title. My favorite is the bit about how the repeated measurements are averaged incorrectly, such that they have harmonic weights
- j1m
j1m, yeah, that's hilarious. It sounds like the analysis is wrong, though; it seems like the last reading gets the most weight, not the first.
- Gabe
One hopes that DWI convictions were based on actual blood tests, not results from this breath analysis machine.
- Gabe
By "defect" here they mean something very specific. If I understood the report correctly, they ran lint on the code and anything it flagged they called a defect.
- Daniel Dulitz
Yeah, the term 'defect' doesn't mean that it's defective, but it's still pretty bad to have thousands of warnings.
- Gabe
“TED has developed a cool new technology that makes it possible to search, caption and translate TED talks. Each talk will now come with an transcript. What's cool is that you can click on any phrase in the transcript and you will jump to that point in the video. […] What this means is that videos will now be Google searchable.”
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
YouTube can do most of this, e.g. skip to a point in a video. My hope is that YT could do similar things, but by starting with an attempt at automatic speech to text.
- Matt Cutts
"In this tightly cropped image the NASA space shuttle Atlantis and the Hubble Space Telescope are seen in silhouette, side by side during solar transit at 12:17p.m. EDT, Wednesday, May 13, 2009, from west of Vero Beach, Florida. The two spaceships were at an altitude of 600 km and they zipped across the sun in only 0.8 seconds. Photo Credit: (NASA/Thierry Legault)"
- April Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
PixelJunk 1-4 has great-looking fluid flow simulation of both water and magma, and dynamic creation of new rocks when they meet. What's the object of the game? I'm not sure I care!
- Rob Shillingsburg