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Hana
wonders if this group is still being attended by it's 16 subscribers... and I know one person who is presenting at LIANZA this year, there's a programme up with abstracts - http://www.conference.co.nz/index...
I'll be at LIANZA - looking forward to it - snail is a changling
I would love to go to LIANZA this year, but won't make it... Am aiming for 2011 bcs one of my imaginary friends from the USA will be speaking.... - Kathryn says love n peace
snail is a changling
Anyone doing a pres for LIANZA? http://lianza.org.nz/news-ev... - I probably won't but will be there on the stand at least.
Wasn't, but thinking about doing so now - a trip to NZ could be good! What to submit?????? Must ponder. - Michelle McLean
If you were kinda, sorta thinking of doing it - JUST DO IT.Is a great conf with lots of singing and dancing and really interesting local and international speakers. (With cute accents that make you think of Crowded House and the Flight of the Conchords) #maybethatsjustmee - Kathryn says love n peace
I echo - LIANZA is generally my favourite conf in the Southern Hemisphere though the last VALA edged ahead. It's always an awesome atmosphere and always interesting. - snail is a changling
I can't think of anything to present even though I'd like to! - Penny
snail is a changling
just picked up Miscellaneous Voices - an anthology of Aust blog writers. A mix of stuff including poetry and words, and short bits...120 odd pages altogether. I think I saw it mentioned on Genevieve's blog.
Kathryn says love n peace
suelibrarian
Fwd: anyone know of a good definition of Professional Development? (via http://friendfeed.com/flexnib...)
snail is a changling
A new Incite is out, on Customer Service this time. And another column by the "Library Provocateur" - it's a reasonable piece on the current, actually oldish, hobbyhorse of management recruitment. External vs internal and the need to develop talent. I fail utterly to see the need to do this "anonymously".
I was an annoyed librarian when I read the first column where they made reference to Diffusion of Innovation theory & Early Adopters and attributed the idea to "something I read about in Stephen Abram's blog" without bothering to find the source and attribute the ideas to Rogers... - Kathryn says love n peace
Kathryn says love n peace
So - who submitted an abstract to Info Online yesterday? Who is talking at ALIA Access in September? (Or all this meant to be super sekkrit?)
InfoOnline with the lovely @suelibrarian about WordpressMU - Kathryn says love n peace from iPhone
InfoOnline with the charming Kate Davis about whether participants at lib tech conferences find a model developed decades ago suits their professional communication needs... - Kathryn says love n peace from iPhone
No submissions to either from me, but colleague from work has submitted to Access. - Michelle McLean
Nothing from me for Online...whereas for Access, I've got a few folk confirmed. Went from being a totally fluid environment to being a mix of openness and structure. I think I like the way it's panning out. Though I don't like being in charge. Not really an unconference by any stretch though. - snail is a changling
I'm speaking at ALIA Access, with @kalgrl :) Have also submitted an abstract to Info Online, with my fellow manager here at MPOW. - Glutton for Punishment
I've got a few gaps at the moment for folk to do 10 min lightning talks in the arvo for Library Camp 2010 - and I think I need suggestions...been burying my head in sand again. I am not a natural organiser by a long shot. Other people normally organise me :-) - snail is a changling
Instead of talks, what about "birds of a feather" spots for people using particular software/with particular problems. At the thingo Michelle & I did last week, people organised a Sharepoint 15 min get together, while another bunch of us talked about Wordpress and Drupal....may work if people in other Access streams knew you were making space in your stream for this???? - Kathryn says love n peace
that's a nice idea. There is space for breakout sessions too, so it's already possible in the current structure to do this. - snail is a changling
Now have an opportunity to apply to go to ALIA Access. Wondering if I have the energy and whether I should let a colleague have the opportunity instead (only 3 places). - suelibrarian
snail is a changling
With FF, is it possible to set up a feed for all comments? I currently have a feed for new topics but it doesn't alert me if a comment is added to a topic...though I might go hunting for the FAQ lest someone tells me to RTFM. HTH. HAND.
Ok...have read FAQ and just clicked on that really obvious "Email/IM" button in the top bar. Should now get alerts via email for all posts and comments. Touch wood. - snail is a changling
Kathryn says love n peace
Walks in, blows party whistle, looks around. Leaves :) :)
Just cant prise them away from Twitter - suelibrarian
snail is a changling
Hmmm...looks like Perth in Sept 2011 is a goer..for NLS5. Methinks I will make it, and methinks that I'll stay longer and see other places...dunno what places though...but Margaret River would be a good start.
Make sure you think about going bush to catch some of the wildflowers: http://www.westernaustralia.com/SiteCol... - Kathryn says love n peace
September could be good whale watching time - suelibrarian
wildflowers are like flower stuff aren't they...sorta like going to Canberra for Floriade...definitely happy to go bush though :-P Will be happy to look at wildflowers, cause they're wild. Was actually chatting to a sales rep from OUP this morning about the wildflowers. I've never seen a whale. - snail is a changling
Excellent! But are you seriously only going to wait until *2011* to come to Perth?? Really?? - Glutton for Punishment
I hope not. I would like to get there sooner and would be nice to catch up with y'all *outside* of a conference. Got a couple of non library friends there too. I remain somewhat embarrassed that I have yet to visit either WA or Tasmania. - snail is a changling
Penny
Strawpoll 4 blog post material. What didn't they teach you at library school that would hv been useful? And what has been useful?
Thesaurus construction - surprisingly useful. Budgeting, useful. Individual types of reference tools - not useful. How to conduct a reference interview - useful. Using AACR2 - mildly useful. Was over 20 years ago. - Kathryn says love n peace
learning how to use Britannica was/is useful but all the other print reference works have pretty much been superseded since I went to school and that was just over 10 years ago. Interesting how things change. And the Britannica thing is mostly because I get a lot of school kids who benefit from using it. - Penny
:) knowing how to use Britannica was useful, but library school didn't teach me that... - Kathryn says love n peace
mostly my course gave me the piece of paper, so I could get a job and start learning how to be a librarian - Michelle McLean
See this thread? Long - but the end of it relates. http://friendfeed.com/lsw... - suelibrarian
Agree with Michelle ;) I always argue with people who say "oh I can't take on that part-time library job cos I am studying [librarianship] and I want to concentrate on that and get all High Distinctions"... - Glutton for Punishment
Kathryn says love n peace
Poke. Poke. Poke - that is all :) :) Would love us to be as active and interesting as LSW...but maybe we can do that at LSW... Seriously....maybe we could copy them and have our own electronic bake sale to get Jo Beazley to IFLA if she decides to go ???
Ow! Poking hurts this time of the morning - haven't integrated ff into daily routine yet. Been flat chat all week. Would be cool to do a fundraiser for @jobeaz. Awesome opportunity. - snail is a changling
I am in but the scale may be an issue. There are more than 200 LSW members and they needed to raise around $800. We are far fewer and I am guessing jo needs a heap more. Not saying let's try saying let's have plan b for money if we can't reach goal. Alsomy reply is prob too late she was making decision yesterday. So just ignore me and carry on :) - suelibrarian from iPhone
Yeah, Jo - very, very sensibly given what else is going on in her life - decided not to got to IFLA. I agree with (was it Sue? Con? Whoever?) that since IFLA was going to be in Oz costing oodles of gazabillions of dollars that some small amount of that could be used to sponsor Australians with papers accepted to attend...you know, since the Library Fairy has a reserve of gold and a magic wand .... - Kathryn says love n peace
At one stage I was tossing around ideas of doing microdonations for Jo - you know we each chip in $10, $20, $50 or whatever - if 200 of us could do that... didn't get my act together to investigate options (i blame moving house - sorry Jo!) - but will keep in mind for next time. It was me who thought out loud about ALIA and IFLA but I can't see that happening. I think it's very sad that... more... - Glutton for Punishment
Glutton for Punishment
Apparently the May issue of InCite is going to have a "Building Our Profession" theme, with one of the questions we are asked to ponder being "What does a library or information professional look like now?" What do y'all reckon? (Could we joint author something for the issue using FF, I wonder... )
we could send in a photo.... - Penny
@penny. A montage? all colours and shapes, ages and sizes - suelibrarian
Can we sort by shape...or bun colour? - snail is a changling
sounds like a great idea - Michelle McLean
what about a Flickr group that we could then use Mosaic tools to create a grid of photos to submit together ... maybe doing our favourite leisure thing...or maybe our most favourite leisure thing we will admit to and be photographed doing.. - Kathryn says love n peace
like the idea of montage. maybe there is a Flickr tool we could use to make it funky. - Penny
This is the one I was thinking of: http://bighugelabs.com/mosaic... - Kathryn says love n peace
suelibrarian
suelibrarian
suelibrarian
Fwd: RT @TheRepoRat: (amazing! a MUST-READ) RT @lorcanD: Scholar Lisbet Rausing on the future of the research library. http://www.tnr.com/print... (via http://friendfeed.com/suelibr...)
Supervisor sent me a link to the Emerald publishing Library Review special issue abt open source in libararies as a possible place to submit my VALA paper to publish. I emailed back that I wasn't sure bcs it is not Open Access - then wondered if I was making a big hoo har and being purist unnecessarily. Then I read this & felt better. But impact factor being higher on so many closed access journals is such a problem. - Kathryn says love n peace from iPhone
Been lots of discussion re OA and citations lately - just 2 were http://friendfeed.com/jokraus... and http://friendfeed.com/gmcmaho... - suelibrarian
Been having discussions at work recently too. Haven't quite got to the OA issue but more around using IF as a metric in the first place. We have a couple of groups doing great collaborative work and "delivering impact" (MPOW jargon) via external wikis but they are not captured or valued by existing measurement systems which are centered around trad publications, citations and IF - suelibrarian
Sorry Dorothea but don't get too happy. Discussions have been with irked researchers. There is a LONG way to go before the messages get to the people in charge of demanding metrics. - suelibrarian from iPhone
"the purpose of university libraries is to serve their faculty and students, and, when feasible, scholars at peer institutions. In other words, university libraries typically define their constituencies as those scholars formally associated with their universities." yes - why the hell did we let that happen? I sometimes wonder if institutional repositories (while open) don't replicate... more... - barbara fister
This reminds me that I need to post some more of my articles into our IR... - The Ghost of Library Past
Lack of apathy ATM is because we are rolling out IR. It's tied to an "approval" system (version of Osprey) and mandated. Not a library project. Our "Communications" people got the budget and ran the project. Project team included library but also others like legal and of course IT to do the code - suelibrarian from iPhone
Part of my duties very soon will be to move the published works for the unit I support to the fedora repository. Am about to become reporat. :) - suelibrarian from iPhone
suelibrarian
Kathryn says love n peace
OK - any explanation why ALIA has a pseudonomynous columnist who claims moral high ground and even resorts to "won't somebody think of the *children*" arguments? One that misrepresents new media in libraries so that even the most techie minded librarian would agree to the evil - if indeed the programmes were actually as stated ?
OOh - where's this online? Good on you for reading ALIA stuff ... - Ruth Baxter
had browsed briefly but thought "oh - odd" but not read it properly yet. - snail is a changling
If anyone wants a look at the article DM or email me, I'll send it to you :) - Glutton for Punishment
I wonder why they won't identify themselves. I wonder if the author (for this month anyway) is West Australian - given the mentions of the SLWA and ECU... - Glutton for Punishment
Why pseudonomynous? Can't think of a good reason, so treat the same as The AL: ignore. - Mal Booth
Kate Bunker
I've joined but I'm not really a FF fan ...we'll just see?
Why not Kate? I want to know both sides! - Ruth Baxter
dunno.......not sure ....not sure if it's going to add any value to twitter - Kate Bunker
i think the major value of FF is groups like this one. And I suppose the fact that there's no character limit. That said, I haven't really gotten into FF either. Twitter seems to have met my needs very well. - Glutton for Punishment
Twitter has worked pretty well for some things - though I do miss threaded conversations a la usenet, and FF might just fill that hole. - snail is a changling
As with twitter the value is in the community. But its also in the aggregation features. If you are only following the same people as on twitter or only following people who only feed their twitter feed in you wont see much value. discussions can form around a delicious link or a greader link for example. Also give it time.(BTW missed this last night but caught in the "Best of day" which I check each morning. Its OK I'll stop now #fffan) - suelibrarian
Kathryn says love n peace
My prediction for most libraries in 2030 - hybridised and merged with other parts of organisation - community centre/shopping centres for public libraries; teaching and learning and common rooms for academic libraries; researchers/knowledge management for corporate - all with a new element of local publishing & metadata creation/curation thrown in.
Funnily enough, I wrote an essay as part of my library degree in 1996 arguing for the merging of community centres and libraries. It's nice to see that happening here and there. - snail is a changling
snail is a changling
Screen for showing subs or themes and such is oddish. Boxes and such are fluid/liquid ie they widen (and shrink) to suit the screen. However content ie those square icons are set to display a fixed number across regardless of screen size. Thus overlapping the edges of the main box on a narrower browser window.
Happened for me too. Everyone who had subscribed jutted out over into the sidebar. Never noticed it before... - Kathryn says love n peace
suelibrarian
welcome Ozlib noobs to Friendfeed. ;) May I also recommend the LSW and Librariology rooms. Also for those with Science/Research crossover interests there are the eResearch, Science 2.0 and Science Online rooms
was waiting for you- I know you are a FFF (ff fan), so thanks for suggestions - Kate Bunker
Glutton for Punishment
So are we allowed to think aloud about the library in 2030 here or would we be interfering with your hippy visualisation exercise, Kathryn? :)
Now is there "here" as in FriendFeed. Cause I am getting really confused now with alerts popping up all over the screen and working out where they are. But I don't think this one is in Twitter. - Ruth Baxter
That's cos I didn't post this one to Twitter. Thought I would keep it "here" as in FriendFeed. For now anyway. I think you will find that some people feed their tweets into FF and FF into Twitter - and others don't. Just to confuse the issue. - Glutton for Punishment
Think Away. Are you sitting comfortably? Eyes closed? Now, I want you to go to a place where you feel relaxed and comfortable ...oooops....I have an appointment I need to dash out for...hold that thought.... - Kathryn says love n peace
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...oops...that's not what you meant is it :-) - snail is a changling
Well... in my visualisation the library no longer exists in 2030... (perhaps I fell asleep and ended up having a nightmare??!) - Glutton for Punishment
hmmm. 2030 - I will be WAY past retirement age. Have fun guys. I will be watching. - suelibrarian
I didn't even think of retirement! Aren't we all going to be working until the ripe old age of 75 or thereabouts? A scary thought... - Glutton for Punishment
I plan to be working at 90...none of this retirement nonsense. - snail is a changling
It could be next to a river, or in a lounge room, or at the beach or I a forest - as long as you can feel safe and relaxed and comfortable... You may find your mind drifting off or having some unexpected ideas during this session... Just let it happen and gently being your mind back to where it needs to be... Just relax and be in your safe place... - Kathryn says love n peace from iPhone
Kate Bunker
I joined FF a few years ago (as you can see from my profile pic!!) when I joined the Librariology Group - are there other useful groups on FF (apart from OzLib??)
Kathryn says love n peace
With a very small buzz around Friend Feed happening on Twitter at the moment among Australian librarians, I have created this room as a spot for longer Friendfeedish chats...
Glutton for Punishment
I need to tidy up my Friendfeed
part of it is probably that I need to clean up my FF too! - Kate Bunker
Michelle McLean
Great idea Kathryn and thanks for doing the work!
No problem - it had to happen. Very interested to see if anything happens here...interesting doing it as a public room too... - Kathryn says love n peace
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