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Steven Hodson posted a message

“If it matters to anyone who decides to visit an obscure little blog called WinExtra you will notice that all my posts from June 20th onward are missing courtesy of my hosting company apparently misplacing them during a server transfer.”

6 hours ago - Link

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right now I am so fucking mad I could spit - not only has this affected the blog(s) but also the WinExtra forums. I cxan only hope that somehow they get this fixed ... I need a coffee ..... - Steven Hodson

Wow, Stephen, that really sucks. They should be all over trying to fix the problem if they're at all reasonable. Good luck! - Voyagerfan5761

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I wondered about that Steven. Saw all the FF comments re: the podcast and was going to check it out. But couldn't land on the page. - Hutch Carpenter

Can they at least confirm that they are recoverable? That's like bush league stuff right there. Get it restored and get out as soon as you can. - Mark Trapp

Please name that hosting company. I'm going to get around to starting a new blog one of these days and am looking for a good host. - AJ Kohn

@Voyagerfan .. right now I can tell they are working on the email end of it because I am being flooded with what is now dupes of my email for the past two weeks .. maybe I should get something stronger to put in this coffee. - Steven Hodson

wow, that is awful. :( When things are back if you're running wordpress you should try the plugin that mails you backups of your db. I have them sent to a gmail account and it's good peace of mind. - felix

@Hutch sorry about that ... and people wonder why I get cranky :) - Steven Hodson

Damn, Steven. That is horrible. I'm with AJ. I wanna know who this is. - Rahsheen Porter

EPIC F*ING FAIL!!!!!!! wow, switch hosting companies asap! - Susan Beebe

to be fair they have been good to me in the past moving me from a shared server setup to a new cluster server setup with no extra fees being charged. But since that point I have been having problems on and off. Hopefully they will be able to get this all fixed up and things will go back to normal. @Mark as much as I might like to move hosts it is something I can't afford at this point. - Steven Hodson

@Susan I don't have those kind of financial resources to just up an switch unfortunately. In addition to the above they did send out an email notifying me of the transfer and not to be posting anything for a period of time as it might get lost ROFL .. would be nice if they wouldn't lose what I've already posted ... so I sit here with fingers crossed .. this is going to be a long day - Steven Hodson

wow that sucks steven - hope they can fix. - MG Siegler

don't like this at all, wish you fast recovery - Dobromir Hadzhiev

This is why I run a cron job that emails a MySQL and WP backup to one of my gmail accounts every night. Good luck with the recovery! - Bill Sodeman via fftogo

wow, that's really cool! Can they do that to mine :p - Rob Diana

Blog Backup Online dot com. I'm just saying. - Cyndy

Oh wow. Sorry to hear that Steven, that's seriously uncool! I'd be going over the contract fine print right about now. - J. Phil

Cyndy - is this blogbackuponline place legit? - J. Phil

J. Phil Very legit. I will vouch for them personally... it's a service from Techrigy, which also produces SM2. - Cyndy

I was wondering what happened to your blog... - possible248 via NoiseRiver

that sucks Steven....wastes a lot of time to chase that kind of stuff down and get it fixed usually... - Rob Neville via twhirl

Ouch! - Mitchell Tsai

I am very sorry- and your hosting company should be even sorrier. Hopefully by now they have fixed this- and bought you a coffee. - Abby Martin

Cyndy, thanks for the tip, it looks like they back up the disqus comments as well, very cool - J. Phil

One word - SUE :)- - Peter Dawson

Rex Hammock published a photo on Flickr

identi.ca's Fail Whale

5 hours ago - Link

Mark Douglass, Steve Rubel, Dossy Shiobara, Jonathon and MG Siegler liked this

that's a fail fail whale - MG Siegler

At least Twitter has a cute animal when it craps out. - Kate O'Neill

MG Siegler posted a link

Twitter Status - Thursday update

yesterday at 10:21 am - via Bookmarklet - Link

Les and Mike Doeff liked this

"Our planned maintenance window was a success and we’ve added some capacity to our cluster. Still more upgrades and expansions to do. We’re hopeful that once we’ve improved the stability of the service we can bring back IM. It remains the highest priority feature we’re working to restore." - MG Siegler via Bookmarklet

I haven't heard the word "success" from them in a while. That gives me hope (cautious hope). - MG Siegler

MG Siegler commented on a blog post on Disqus

Re: Should people in glass Facebook offices throw stones?

yesterday at 10:05 am - Link

"I can try to make that happen Dave :) But really, I'm fine with private companies doing what it takes to make money, I just want them to be clear about it." - MG Siegler

another good one is, "Should people standing in broken family homes throw glass rocks at each other. LOL j/k - Les

Vince DeGeorge posted a message

“Ok FriendFeed, release direct messaging in the next couple of hours and put the nail in the coffin. I can live with both services, but I'm heavily biased to FriendFeed.”

Thursday at 7:16 pm - Link

Mike Fruchter, David Recordon, Ross Miller, Aaron Brazell and 18 other people liked this

Amusingly, unlike yesterday, I'm not seeing calls here to go to identi.ca. Was that a 24-hour dalliance? - Louis Gray

@louis, didn't quite last the week i was expecting... - MG Siegler

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Louis, you've got to put that toe in the water and say the water is fine, let's jump on in - when not everyone jumps in you say, "Meh, screw swimming." - Vince DeGeorge

Definitely Vince. That'd be the piece-de-resistance. Free beer is always a good one too. - Mark Forman

identi.ca has thousands more users than last week, laconica has at least some developers interested, some patches submitted, and several other instances installed. I'd like to see a second wave, maybe in a month's time. - Michael C. Harris

Sure, Michael - I think it certainly has potential and a significant portion just went to reserve their name for the future (except for slow-draw Scoble, who is trying to get back his name as we speak). The main problem is getting people to MOVE. Right now, FriendFeed has the buzz and really the best chance to be the complete replacement (though it's so different). Honestly, I don't have TIME for multiple services, so consolidation would be nice for me, personally. - Vince DeGeorge

On vacation so just saw the indent.ca chatter recently - couldn't even get it to create an account for me so either someone already took my twitter/friendfeed name or it just wouldn't work - either way "meh" came a lot quicker for me - Marco

I'm about to release an idea built with almost nothing (and I mean NOTHING) to replace twitter. You won't believe how obvious this is :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Really? I don't find much value in DMs. - Sonciary Honnoll

directeur, tantalising ! - Michael C. Harris

Michael: and the worst is that I'm really serious :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Oh god please don't. E-mail! Why keep reinventing the same thing over and over again!? E-mail is a distributed, scalable system with and open standard: everything that these social networks will eventually become. - Eric Florenzano

Directeur is secretly assembling a Twitter-like made of ... a wiki. On a wristwatch. ;) - Alexander Williams via NoiseRiver

Alexander: heh, stay tuned ! :) - directeur via NoiseRiver

Eric, how about "open" email? Everyone get an @ address, but you set permissions? Big inboxes, with the subject being the post and the body being the discussion? - Vince DeGeorge

+ 1 yes. Would also like to see a short message service as a seperate tab option. That would be the final nail. Ppl like short messaging, they holdouts will flock to FF if its on offer. - Duncan Riley

Vince: That's really interesting. Are you proposing a social network piggybacked on the existing e-mail infrastructure? Interesting. You'd need to find a way to make sure that messages didn't "leak" into unwilling participants' inboxes. But...I think I like it! - Eric Florenzano

Eric - yes, behind the scenes distributions lists and BCC type behavior - it could be done - some kind of massive Exchange server deal. There are people smarter than me who could poo poo quickly, I'm sure - but it seems viable. - Vince DeGeorge

Twitter+FriendFeed - great allyance. But Twitter needs help - Igor Poltavskiy

MG Siegler posted a message

“What exactly does Twitter have to do to prepare for the 4th of July - go out and buy fireworks?”

Thursday at 7:00 pm - Link

Michael C. Harris, possible248, Sonciary Honnoll, Matt Hooper and karen2 liked this

Either way... it's time to blow it up. - Louis Gray

i'd have no problem with it if they came out earlier today and said "all, this is it, we're going to be down five hours and when we come back online, we're golden"; but this just seems same old - Lou Paglia

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@lou - one can still dream right? - MG Siegler

absolutely @MGSiegler, absolutely - Lou Paglia

Maybe they're making their own fireworks, see...http://twitpic.com/32zr - Sonciary Honnoll

@sonciary - ha yes! - MG Siegler

blow up servers and datacenters? - Fred Grott

I think they have to prepare for the possibility of going down. But if you ask me, they've got that nailed. - Russell Holliman

See the can: "Shoots flaming balls". That can't be good. - Louis Gray

MG Siegler posted a link

Christian Bale Rules Out Robin For Batman 3 (and beyond) | /Film

Thursday at 7:15 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

Lon Harris liked this

“If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I’ll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work.” - MG Siegler via Bookmarklet

Robert Scoble posted a message

“If you block someone here's what happens...”

Thursday at 7:02 pm - Link

Andrew Smith, Tony, Cait, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 13 other people liked this

1. You can't see them in your "Friends" tab. - Robert Scoble

2. You CAN see them in your "Everyone" tab. - Robert Scoble

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3. Even though you can't see them you can't comment on their posts. - Robert Scoble

4. They can no longer see your comments or see your items in their "Friends" tab. - Robert Scoble

Cute - Dennis E. Hamilton via twhirl

Keep Brazell blocked. It's HOURS of entertainment for me :) - Erin Kotecki Vest

FriendFeed will get a court order from Viacom five years from now and will have to provide your block list to them - Lou Paglia

if you block someone then ewhy care afterwards? - Dennis Howlett via twhirl

Erin: I'm watching Brazell over on the "Everyone" tab and it, indeed, is funny. - Robert Scoble

He's taking it out on poor Dennis. Ahhh, these rage filled tech kids and their ego ways. I think I'm going to fill my reader up with more left wing Obama stories to throw him over the edge tonight. - Erin Kotecki Vest

Dennis: because I'm trying to learn how the software works and think about the impact that this stuff has. - Robert Scoble

And the reaction by someone who has been blocked is that they go nuts and start yelling at you on Twitter. So be careful. :-) - Louis Gray

@louis - so now would be the perfect time... - MG Siegler

You don't want them to show up in your everybody tab either? I rarely look at the everyone tab so I don't think I would care. - Devin Anderson via fftogo

MG: that's funny! Louis: that's OK, because if you yell about someone incessantly because that person blocks you on FF that proves you are off your rocker. - Robert Scoble

"think about the impact that this stuff has" - on what ? (a) on a person, (2) on a views, (3) on others of FF ?? Like what is your thought process on this item and most important is what do you recommend after u figure things out ?? - Peter Dawson

Devin: I don't care about them showing up on Everyone tab. After all, it's called "Everyone" for a reason. - Robert Scoble

sorry the Term Blocked only gets me that Shel Puppet image and sound :) - Fred Grott

I've only blocked two people and have no regrets - everyone else I see is absolutely fantastic. - Vince DeGeorge

Peter: I wouldn't have figured out that I can still see blocked users if I hadn't done this. Obviously I'm sharing what I learn. Also, I want to see how it changes the conversation and what leaks through the block wall into other conversations. I will share if I learn anything interesting. - Robert Scoble

disregard above. I hadn't seen the rest of your comments yet. Didn't understand what you were saying. - Devin Anderson via fftogo

I've never blocked someone, but then again - I don't follow that many people. Curious to know what justifies a block? - Sonciary Honnoll

Sonciary: I wrote a few days ago that anyone begging for followers would earn a block. It got me to block Calacanis for a few days, and now Aaron Brazell is blocked. I also blocked a troll and a jerk, don't need to invite them into my living room. - Robert Scoble

Sonciary, trolling, abusive/ hate posts (we had one of them) are two reasons I've blocked people. Having said that I haven't blocked many people either. 99.9% of people offer a positive contribution - Duncan Riley

Very helpful Robert. I've always wondered what happens... - Mitchell Tsai

Scoble's wrt to "see how it changes the conversation " , yes I agree .e.g if you block some1 , I wont see <Mr/MS-ABX (friend of Robert Scobles) post being made .This impacts "Show best of: day - week - month" algos too ( i think).So the tapestry of conversations is certainly unique as with the view points. No two people can computationally have the same views , at the exact same time /sec. A very different paradigm in terms of conversations, flow and content views - Peter Dawson

and knowing is half the battle. GI joeee - Hao Chen

Funny that Brazell already has seen this cluster, so he's already figured out how to get around my block too. I guess if I really want to punish someone I can't admit to anyone that I've blocked them, because it gets them more attention than if I had just ignored them. Human psychology is so fun to play with, isn't it? - Robert Scoble

Robert, Ducan - Got it, makes sense. I have to say I'm surprised to hear of Calacanis 'begging'. :) - Sonciary Honnoll

@Sonciary Obviously you don't follow him on Twitter :P - Shey

that's my fault. we were chatting. lol - Erin Kotecki Vest

@Robert: When you block someone he still can see your comments - I already reported this to the FF team - directeur via NoiseRiver

Yes playing with Psychology is fun..but you are not suppose to mention names that takes half of the fun out of it :) - Fred Grott

@shey Actually, I do, but clearly not very closely. - Sonciary Honnoll

i've block a few irritants w/ high noise ratios awhile back - anybody know of a way to see who we've blocked? - mike "glemak" dunn

5. They cease to exist. (feature currently being beta tested) - Karim

I thought I heard that some people who have been blocked are setting up rooms and adding feeds for the people who have blocked them. Has anyone else heard this? If that is possible then I would consider that a bug. - Mike Doeff

Mike: you couldn't fix that unless you blocked RSS feeds in rooms. Igor the Troll currently does it in his room for Robert Scoble. - Mark Trapp

Erin, I have an adorable pink shirt with the Obama Mama tagline and logo. When's your next show again? I can loan it to you. - Cyndy

@karim this like's for you - Marco

A lot fewer troll-types on FriendFeed than UseNet 1982-1986. We used to make big KILL files with all the people we didn't want to hear. Hopefully FriendFeed stays pretty good. We'll have to figure out what to do if "roving bands" show up like they did in Second Life. - Mitchell Tsai

All of this - and I still can't quite figure out the block feature... but it is fun to watch tonight's game. You can't say he didn't ask for it specifically! :) - Lucretia Pruitt

And what happens when someone with 14000 friends blocks you is that you stil see their posts a FoF - :) - Aaron Brazell

I've blocked 0 people on FF so far. - Thomas Hawk

l0ckergn0me posted a link

Unimpressed with the iPhone 3G speeds? Wait a few months.

Thursday at 6:31 pm - via Reshare - Link

Alan Root, Kevin C. Tofel and MG Siegler liked this

Do we know for sure that the iPhone 3G radio can handle faster HSDPA speeds? I'd guess it would but not sure that's a given. - Kevin C. Tofel

yes, it can kevin. the chips in the iphone 3g can go up to 7.2 Mbps i believe. - MG Siegler

That would be great if the do MG. Would let them keep pace with AT&T's network upgrades for the next 2 or 3 years before they switch to LTE from HSDPA. - Kevin C. Tofel

@kevin - yep definitely. - MG Siegler

did you see my video MG? http://www.centernetworks.com/... - Allen Stern

Well I think that they are pretty good for the cell network. I wish I could get an iPhone, but I am tied to Verizon with the rest of my family. - Daniel via twhirl

MG Siegler posted a message on Twitter

“hmm looks like the twitter maintenance just started. let's hope no fail whales.”

Thursday at 6:02 pm - Link

Les liked this

aaaand thar she blows! - MG Siegler

MG Siegler posted an entry on VentureBeat

Should people in glass Facebook offices throw stones?

Thursday at 12:46 pm - Link

Anne Bouey, RAPatton, Atul Arora, Steven Hodson and 9 other people liked this

A post borne out of FriendFeed discussion - MG Siegler

A business model that has a foundation on locking up user data to keep switching costs high seems like a recipe for long-term disaster. We've seen several times that "open-ness" of data or knowledge generally trumps locked-down-sown-up0tight-"mine mine mine"- perspectives on data. Facebook (and others) need to figure out how to keep users, make a dollar or two and still share user data. The overall benefit to the community at large (and to Facebook) will be larger than if they just horde data. - Tony Haenn

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Tony, Facebook has said it wants to continue to open up. This past year, their platform and other efforts forced their rivals to be more open (although they don't seem to get much credit for that any more). I know they're being conservative about it now -- at least by the standards of other entrepreneurs who want access to their data -- but considering the pressure they're under to monetize in any way, conservatism is understandable. - Eric Eldon

@Eric - Sure. My comment in retrospect shouldn't have been so specific to Facebook. Regardless, I still see sites that try to build walled gardens. Hoppefully,the pressure to monetize coupled with the pressure to open up data will create some new & interesting business models. Ben Franklin "necessity is the mother of all invention" (or people do crazy/stupid things when their back is against the wall) - Tony Haenn

@Tony - The other thing I'd like to point out is that while being open can help win in the long run, a lot of the folks who get it right in version 1 or 2 are closed systems. There's a good reason for that - for open systems to work well, the "rules of the road" around what should be opened up needs to be clear. Being "open" isn't a dominant strategy. While we like to pick on Yahoo! and AOL, both were fairly closed for a long time and enjoyed long periods of success (or perhaps even dominance). - Charles Hudson

@Tony. I guess I find it funny that so many people yell at Facebook (and other services) to open up, but nobody bothers to explain how exactly it is in Facebook's interest to do so at the present. It's a case of unaligned incentives. Certainly, opening up could be a win-win situation, it's just not clear how it is yet. - Eric Eldon

@Eric - I couldn't agree more. The internet has fostered a feeling amongst a certain segment that demands everything be free. "Information just wants to be free". However, the benefits to an open platform for the company are relatively straightforward. With bits and bytes you can let share them with someone else and if they do something neat, you both can profit, or at least not be harmed. - Tony Haenn

@Eric Look at twitter. If they didn't let summize (or hashtags, or the other dozen services) play with their data, would they be nearly as popular? Would they have survived the system meltdown they are currently struggling through? I don't think they would have. A closed system there would have died an ignoble death. Openness from an information standpoint leads to strength and innovation - Tony Haenn

@Tony I totally recognize the mutually beneficial innovations that can stem from open services. Facebook is just at a point where it needs to start making some serious money and it's not clear how being open is going to help it do that, at least right now. - Eric Eldon

debate still going on in the comments with blake ross http://venturebeat.com/2008/07... - MG Siegler

MG Siegler commented on a blog post on Disqus

Re: Should people in glass Facebook offices throw stones?

Thursday at 5:39 pm - Link

"Blake - It's my understanding that you can get data such as photos, but you cannot publish it, right? Isn't this why we don't see Facebook photos on FriendFeed for example?" - MG Siegler

MG Siegler published a photo on Flickr

These are good.

Thursday at 4:19 pm - Link

RAPatton, edythe, Michelle Martinez and Jason Toney liked this

Yellow raspberries? What are those? - Mark Trapp

those do look good. - Jason Toney

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what is this and where is my brightkite update on where you got them?!?! - Allen Stern

@mark - yep "golden" raspberries - MG Siegler

@allen - I promise to send you a brightkite update later. i sent one the other day, didn't you get it? - MG Siegler

the west coast has some weird fruits - have never seen golden rasberries - i have seen blue rasberry tho - Allen Stern

@allen - they might just be old. i'm not sure yet. check my brightkite updates later. if i'm in the bathroom - i'm puking - MG Siegler

Looked like olives on my iPhone screen. Also good. - Josh Lowensohn

@josh - oh crap if they are olives i really am gonna be sick - MG Siegler

Eric Eldon posted a message

“I was recently informed that you and your company, VentureBeat, issued a press release about XXXXXXXXXX without any prior authorization from anyone within our organization. We demand an immediate retraction of this release as it is was not authorized, is not entirely representative of all the facts”

Thursday at 4:22 pm - Link

Gavin, Ryan Sholin, Frederic, RAPatton and 11 other people liked this

simply hilarious. if only their lawyer sent a C&D. - Leonid Kozhukh

the second part got cut off: "...and may interfere with an upcoming press release we are planning. Please let me know as soon as possible that you and VentureBeat will be in full compliance with our request." - Eric Eldon

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Damn, I better stop writing up these press releases... - MG Siegler

also, we'd tried calling and emailing well advance, and they didn't respond. - Eric Eldon

you issued a pr about porn (xxx) ? nice! - Allen Stern

mg, press releases are fine. they just need to be authorized by the company beforehand. - Eric Eldon

hmm interesting.. - Fred Grott

Somebody get him a whamburger with some french cries. - Jake Swearingen

we just thought thigh master would enjoy the new round of press. it's been a while - MG Siegler

nothing like the july 4th weekend for celebrating the first amendment - Eric Eldon

lets see this pr - im checking all wires worldwide and haven't found any release with venturebeat on it - Allen Stern

post the name, stop being a wimp! :P - sean percival

@allen yeah, for a minute there i'd thought we'd opened up a VB PR arm, but i checked and it turns out we didn't. - Eric Eldon

@sean you might not think it from some of my tweets and friendfeed comments, but i do try to temper myself with a modicum of respect for those i disagree with :) - Eric Eldon

Ask them about the facts so you can update the news article. - Igor The Troll

@igor that's what i've already done. also, we had checked the news out enough that i'm not sure we got anything wrong. we shall see. - Eric Eldon

Eric, let us know how it goes, and if need to we can get other Bloggers behind this issue. This sounds like Cyber Bullying of a blogger by a company. It happens often now days. - Igor The Troll

its Miasole - sean percival

@igor thanks for the support. haven't heard back. @sean funny guess, but it's not that one. - Eric Eldon

MG Siegler commented on a blog post on Disqus

Re: WordPress shifts Gears to speed up blogging

Thursday at 3:40 pm - Link

"Thanks Matt, appreciate it!" - MG Siegler

Eric Eldon posted a message on Twitter

“@parislemon. you try pronouncing it Favre”

Thursday at 3:12 pm - Link

I keep coming back to Favra from Super Troopers - MG Siegler

MG Siegler commented on a blog post on Disqus

Re: Should people in glass Facebook offices throw stones?

Thursday at 2:54 pm - Link

"Yes Chris, I took your emoticon wink in your comment to mean it wasn't entirely serious. But as you note, there are definitely some issues. I thought it was an interesting starting point for an important, albeit old, discussion for the holiday weekend :)" - MG Siegler

Tris Hussey stumbled upon a site on StumbleUpon

Maybe not Gabes fault, but the biggest story for me today was by a wide margin Identi.ca. It never hit the top of Techmeme - FriendFeed

Thursday at 1:34 pm - Link

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people are stumbling ff discussions now? nice. - MG Siegler

(jeff)isageek posted a link

Chocolate Rain 8Bit Remix

Thursday at 1:56 pm - via Reshare - Link

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whats better then chocolate rain in 8bit! - (jeff)isageek

wow - MG Siegler

haha nice! I'm fav-ing this - Alan Le

Muhammad Saleem posted a message on Twitter

“First 5 minutes of The Dark Knight: http://tinyurl.com/554rpx This is too much fun.”

Thursday at 1:02 pm - Link

Andrew Burd, Lindsey Smith, Michael W. May, Natitude and (steve isaacs) liked this

I really want to watch, but don't want to ruin a thing... - MG Siegler

I hit 'liked this' before even seeing it I'm that excited lol - Natitude

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I'm with MG. I want it all to hit me like two particles in a supercollider - Dan Kaplan

wow... wow.... - Michael W. May via twhirl

That was great... no big spoils... just makes me want to see the movie that much more - Natitude

Awesome . . . agreed no spoilers. Just captivating. - Lindsey Smith

...alright MAYBE i'll watch it then... - MG Siegler

@MG Don't make it sound like we're twisting your arm ;) - Lindsey Smith

MG Siegler commented on a story on Reddit

parislemon on Apple wants to teach us Multi-Touch gesture language

Thursday at 1:43 pm - Link

"ha ha ha that is interesting." - MG Siegler

Gabe Rivera posted a message on Twitter

“Hilarious FriendFeed thread on how Techmeme shortchanged identi.ca, and BTW, is fascist. Don't miss my synopsis at the end: http://is.gd/Lrz”

Thursday at 1:26 pm - Link

Joao, Nikpay, Mitchell Tsai, Alex Hammer and 10 other people liked this

You are the anti-christ, Gabe. - l0ckergn0me

As someone who wrote one of the headline pieces on it, I whole-heartedly agree with your synopsis Gabe. - MG Siegler

That was very hillarious. I'm glad I advertised on Techmeme this month with everyone looking at Techmeme trying to figure out whether or not Gabe is evil or not. - Robert Scoble

Louis Gray posted a message on Twitter

“Has any product as prominent as Twitter fallen apart as publicly and as quickly, yet retained its users?”

Thursday at 12:09 pm - Link

tallglassofmilk, Cait, Aaron Myers, Jess and 32 other people liked this

Maybe Michael Jackson?! : ) - Erhan Erdogan

The roads in Tulsa, Oklahoma. - Geoff Schultz

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windows? :p - felix

The US Government. - Eric Schlissel via twhirl

Secondlife? - Taylor

The early days of the WELL. http://www.wired.com/wired/arc... - Phil Gomes

ha. friendfeed comment sections are beginning to be as funny as the reddit comment sections. hmmm...probably just all the same users. - mike via twhirl

Any US Airline? - Stephen Terlizzi

new coke - Allen Stern

US Government? :) - Fred Grott

Possibly. And other clones have come along. But with identi.ca I have *never* seen such a rush of Twitter faithful to a new clone. We. Are. Frustrated. ;-( - Barbara K. Baker

the oil industry - Rafael Robayna

Oh good one Rafael - Geoff Schultz

Very nice, Stephen T! - felix

Livejournal was just as slow and unreliable a number of years ago as Twitter is today. - Morton Fox

The Intelligence Community (CIA, NSA and other TLAs) - Barry Graubart via twhirl

More importantly, can identi.ca implement features quick enough to capitalize. - Rob Diana

@Erhan omg, that's funny - Sarah Perez

Probably GM, starting in the 1970s. Or even maybe Ford or Chrysler. People have severe brand loyalty. - Mark Trapp

I'm with @felix - MG Siegler

Yes, eBay and AOL - Steve Rubel

myspace - sean percival

+1 for felix - Dobromir Hadzhiev

myspace had rather severe growing pains as well, though those seem to have been resolved. - Denton Gentry

no - Duncan Riley

NOooooooooooooo! twitter is special! a 1st in web 2.0 - Susan Beebe

Still my favorite drug. What can I say? - Chris Brogan

The Boyfriend? - Kelby

Friendster, Louis. - l0ckergn0me

Windows XP? - Rom Feria

they might fall apart but its where everyone built their networks, no way to export all the friends, the conversations. you can emulate some of the more active relationships when you move to a new network but the piecemeal people get left behind. twitter is special - Paul Rj Muller via twhirl

Yes Friendster indeed ... and MySpace swept in and cleaned up the pieces, just as FriendFeed looks poised to do ... - Mark Jeffrey

Britney Spears. - Sonciary Honnoll

Windows? - Harry Myhre

twitter shouldn't be sacraficed before it gets its second wind. I think the team at obvious has some tricks up their collective sleeve. - GlennIsaac

My Twitter never dies! - Igor Poltavskiy

How about MSN, but comparing the US to the rest of the world...we're the only ones that still use AIM. - Philip Ryan Johnson

Democracy - Cait

Microsoft Vista??? - Roberto Bonini

Haha. Michael Jackson. Indeed. - tallglassofmilk

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Wall Street - Greed Is Good

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A lot of people misquote (including the title) as him saying "Greed is good" - he never actually says that. "Greed, for lack of a better word, is good." - MG Siegler

classic clip! - Cee Bee

Dave Morin posted a message on Twitter

“The government should create open APIs for accessing all publically available government data. Then, let all of us create great UIs for it.”

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Why don't you guys show them how it's done by opening up Facebook mail? ;) - Sacca

Like Sacca :) - Paul Buchheit

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Yeah, news feed too. Thanks. - Sam Pullara

Photos are the biggest thing. Facebook is to a large extent a photo sharing site, but their TOS prohibit you from doing anything interesting with the photos -- they're trapped inside FB. - Paul Buchheit

Yes, Mr. Morin. Tear. Down. This. Wall. - MG Siegler

I also want photos to flow into Facebook from other repositories. Display my Flickr photos in Facebook and let people tag them please. - Benjamin Golub

Man with all the hypocrisy, it really stinks in here. - Gavin

does not gov have the same exact motivation for not opening up as facebook? - Fred Grott

These guys are making headway: http://www.everyblock.com/ - Andy Wibbels

I agree.... Tear Down This Wall! - Stefan Hayden

@sacca's point is fun, but it's a fact that the gov's data is ours, and debatable that FB's is. Both would be great, but the Gov's should happen yesterday. - Nate Koechley

First, government data is created through taxpayer dollars and since we all kinda have an ownership stake in the gov, we should have access to its data. FB data is FB's, per their TOS. Second, FB has data that is more valuable than other services -- it's a big business decision for them to be more open or not, and imho it's not clear if being more open is worth it to them at this point. Update: I see Nate already said basically the same thing. Anyway..... - Eric Eldon

Unfortunately most government organizations get the lowest-bidding contractors to build their content which usually means lock-in to proprietary data and clunky 'net applications. Just check out some of their intranets. IE6-only VBscript running on 10-year old proprietary multimillion dollar software - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl

I've seen a lot of agencies just mirror "what works at other government offices" which tends to perpetuate this cycle of technical stagnation. Some orgs do get the message and it's usually because of some introduction of Web 2.0 technology into certain facets. However, it needs to be internally evangelized and pushed up the ladder to the decision-making personnel (who usually don't understand the need). - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl

oof, this discussion ended up a news item. http://venturebeat.com/2008/07... - David Weekly

Bumping my follow up Twitter comment to FriendFeed comments: Back to my comment on the government. Wouldn't it be awesome to get updates on new laws and programs through the various social feeds? My thoughts on this come from the new cellular phone law in California. I think many people are probably finding out about this for the first time by seeing the blinking signs above the highway. It would be amazing if a notification for a new law came in through twitter, or friendfeed, or facebook (or all of them). - Dave Morin

Yes but Dave you missed everyone's point the value proposition is not in opening up as you would hoped but holding back. Politicians hide info to keep power, corps hide information to keep customers locked in..when users finally have away to route around than that info-lock in has NO POWER..that day is coming Dave very soon - Fred Grott

My comment was intended as a prod between pals. I make it a habit to tease Dave and other friends at FB about the relatively closed nature of some of their platform. I was by no means attempting to jump into the fray regarding OpenSocial/FriendConnect. That said, as a FB user, while I was thrilled to see them start passing full text emails to me, it does bum me out that I can't reply back to the thread from my regular email inbox. It is an annoyance, and Dave has heard this from me before. This seemed like a fun opportunity to remind him of my #1 feature request. More importantly, for the record, I am particularly impressed by Dave Morin when I see him participate candidly in public discussions regarding issues like these despite his high profile. Having been in a big company and knowing the effort that it takes to manage internal PR in parallel with community expectations, my hat goes off to him. It is very clear that Dave cares deeply about users and works hard to make them happy. - Sacca

outstanding idea - john conroy

@fred gott. i'm sure dave would like to know how soon that day is, since you seem to have such a clear idea. - Eric Eldon

WRT the lowest bidding contractor theory, hows about some of the more financially comfortable devs offer up their services in the form of govt contracts with outrageously low bids. Put your money where your mouth is so to speak. - Erica Baker

@eric listen to Gillmor Gang its closer than u think - Fred Grott

@Fred we agree on a lot of this. i was put off, however, by your antagonistic language towards dave, who has been at the forefront of opening up social network data to third parties for quite some time now. - Eric Eldon

@eric users wanting their data as free as possible has none of the tone you subscribe to me - Fred Grott

@Fred how many Facebook users want their data free right now? - Eric Eldon

Better if govs give access to the raw data. In my experience, trying to get a decent api from a gov department is kind of tricky. If you get the raw data there are plenty of companies & non-profits who are willing & able to build decent APIs around it. - Nick Lothian

@eric its not free part as u imply we want useful data that can only come about by full data-portability no user will ask for free or data portability because they do not know it as that. - Fred Grott

have u seen http://opencongress.org ? it's pretty hot! - Marshall Kirkpatrick via fftogo

@fred i fundamentally agree with you. i just think facebook gets too much shit for "not going far enough" even though it has been the (social networking) industry leader in data-sharing. just look at how myspace was treating third party developers in previous years. this is a process. - Eric Eldon

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