"The two say they are ready to begin a third installment. "When you find a director you trust, you hold on to him for as long as you can," Bale says.
He catches Nolan blushing and breaks the tension.
"But if you do call us the dynamic duo," Bale says, "he has to be Robin."" - MG Siegler via Bookmarklet
I adore them now but when I worked in tourist central (on the wharf, right next to the wax museum) they were far less than cute. - AJ Kohn
OMG that was *so* my husband and I on our summer vacation trip to SF a few years ago. And for the record, we still both love and wear our SF fleece jackets we bought on that trip. :-) - Judi Sohn via twhirl
+1 AJ, I worked at One Beach St. and got really tired of overhearing the witty Mark Twain quotes. - Ken Norton
"If you’re looking for gear that’s going to make you look like Batman, here’s another to add to the list. This one comes from a French design company called Enzyme.
It’s a kick-ass motorcycle concept that would look just right parked in the batcave. The Batpod is cool and all, but the Icare uses a huge 1.8 litre Honda flat 6 engine that should provide plenty of power. It’s a concept for the moment, but Enzyme has gotten some really out there concepts into production in the past. Great way to commute to work at Wayne Industries." - LiquidLag via Bookmarklet
Even if you gotta go bad, you'd choose the sink over rubbing shoulders (and heaven forbid other parts) with the guy at urinal number one. - Jeff Crites
You can't really fit two adults in that corner. Rubbing parts looks quite eminent. - embee
Someone really doesn't know the unwritten rules of urinal etiquitte. Must have been a woman. - Dave Roth
You guys are missing the obvious. This urinal setup was made for conjoined twins. - Louis Gray
efficiency.. guys.. the share holders want you to stop complaining and start doing your job! we just save 0.5 sqm in real estate investment . just wait for this Q's results :) - Naor
This might be popular at a gay bar. - Jack Carlson
One is an Apple product, one is a Microsoft product. Any questions? - Louis Gray
its actually been well over an hour now, and still no option to play at 30% done, it makes me wonder how they'll do the netflix 'watch instantly' thing... - MG Siegler
It's buggy as all hell on the xbox. Blogs keep touting this as the next greatest thing but I don't think any of them have actually tried running netflix on the xbox. I spoke with netflix and they have even said they recommend against it bc media center does not properly communicate with their servers causing accounts to lock up. - Brandon
Louis explained it the best it can be. - Parth Awasthi
chewie is the best! if it has a button for wookiee roars i would pimp this at work meetings. - Jericho
I was thinking they should make bicycle panniers like this. Nothing would catcha driver's attention like a bike covered with clinging wildlife. - Chris Baskind
That one is cute but, I have coveted the Yoda backpack from ThinkGeek for some time. It's always out of friggin' stock when I try to buy it! %$@^ - Candace Holly
Haha - subscribe me to the buyers-list :-D - Ronald
Chewy <3 congrats Candace LOL don't forget to post pictures of you rockin' it! - Mona N via fftogo
wow! That is just about too much! Too bad we just bought the kids their school backpacks last weekend. - JA Castillo
I wonder if he's dry clean only.... - Mona N via fftogo
Do Wookies like baths...because my dog hates it and I can't imagen Wookie's beeing big fans of it either. :D - Jaithas
Well..the question is..who would be dumb enough to attempt to give a Wookie a bath? I wouldn't. If they don't like it, they'll probably smush you. - Candace Holly
as much as I love wookies and ewoks, I think they're smelly :( - Mona N via fftogo
Thank you M! This gives me real incentive to go to graduate school! Yay! - Anna Haro
Finch was the only performer(actor/actress) to win the award posthumously. As recently as 2003 Conrad L. Hall, a cinematographer, was nominated posthumously and won it too for Road To Perdition. - Subhasish Das
"You bet Jason - thanks for creating an awesome game! I still can't believe it's free. Shoot me an email and keep me up to date on developments!" - MG Siegler
“How long does it take to develop a "good" product? Google search took at least 3 years (1996-1999) and Gmail was about 2.5 years (2001-2004). How about others?”
I'm guessing that the iPhone was under development for at least several years before 1.0 was released. FriendFeed is less than a year old -- I bet that it will be a lot better when it is two years old. - Paul Buchheit
But as you know well, Gmail have got quite many updates after that (but most of them could be counted as minor fixes probably). Just saying that product is good only if it's been maintained. ;) - Daniel Schildt
Does good mean, good enough to go live? I'm a little confused by how good is evaluated. Our hotels meta-search product (wego.com/hotels) has been around for about 2 years now, but we did a re-write a couple of months and it's much much better than before, but still don't know whether it compares to GMail's 2004 level of goodness, or Google's 1999 level of goodness. - arunthampi
Yes, of course good products must continue to improve. The Google of 1999 wasn't very good by today's standards either. It only searched about 70 million pages, for example (vs maybe 20 billion now). - Paul Buchheit
arunthampi, I'm thinking of products that will stand out and have significant impact on the world. - Paul Buchheit
FriendFeed have been under development for just little bit of time but considering that amount it has gone greatly forward. I wish it will develop to even more advanced (but still usable) tool for keeping persons updated without too much of information flow. I wish there would be more features for filtering of information that user could set and control from settings. - Daniel Schildt
Not sure how long Evan was working on identica prior to launch but I am absolutely staggered and amazed how far identi.ca has come in what must be less than 6 months.” - Andy C
I started eventseer.net 9 years ago, but it wasn´t until recently it became good (after Thomas took over 3 years ago). - Amund Tveit
Habari has been in development for about 18 months. It's a "good product" now (though with pretty low market penetration :) but it will be a lot better in a year. - Michael C. Harris
I think the iPhone was under (serious) development for 3 years prior to its launch last June. - Jamie
@Paul, ah in terms of significant impact, maybe we don't measure up (as yet) but im guessing that will happen very soon :) - arunthampi
It depends on what you mean by "good product". Good for lead users? Good for a distinct social milieu? Good for the masses? Also I believe it is very hard to tell when a product has been finished. Gmail 2010 won't be the same as Gmail 2008. - benedikt
"Good to use" is not universal since different people have different need and for some of them, tool can be always difficult to use. - Daniel Schildt
Software is generally asymptotic to good, (isn't it?) because as software gets better it attracts more users, each of whom has a slightly different definition of "good". But some more random examples: Windows 1 -> Windows 3 == 5 years; Unix 1969 -> 1985 (by which time it was clear it was dominating workstations except for DEC); Linux on the desktop 1991 -> 2007 (Ubuntu 7); Mozilla/Firefox 1998->2005. It's pretty clear that web software matures quicker than desktop. - Nick Lothian
if you write software you should consider your users as BORC, not those weak dumb individualistic humans. that way you write software that fulfills needs. the more streamlined your BORG can do it the better. leave the task to make pretty buttons to the designers. the last step would be to imagine a human again and make your software human/error-proof. - krz9000
I heard Writely was built and sold (to Google) in 10 months - Stewart Rogers
Interesting question, but I can't answer it because I can't figure out how long anything has been in development other than by the community of people who are working on it, but then I can't correct for the bakedness of ideas when a community starts. And then I'm not sure which of the ideas in the bundle that is a product was really important to its success. Hmm. - Daniel Dulitz
Products are so different from each other, it doesn't always make sense to compare them. Products that are built on existing technology usually take less time than those built from scratch. The reality is usually a gradient between the two extremes. Consumer electronics often take longer than other products because of the difficulty developing, testing, and certification of hardware, as well as having physical alpha and beta testing of the software. - Chris White
@ seth Sadly, the first fax spam came in 8 minutes later from a travel agent offering a package to Hawaii. - Brian Norwood
The original version of WebTV was built within one year. I refuse to ever work that hard again. :) - Chris White
I think it's a question that can be answered historically, if you look at the time from when a group of people commit themselves to the realization of some idea, to the time when a similar group with a similar idea make an impact on the world. The answer for software *seems* to be 2-3 years, much of which is spent fumbling around in an unfamiliar space. For new drugs or new modes of transportation or new paradigms in visual art or whatever the time is different, and there's a lot of variance in any case. - ⓞnor
based on the startups i've seen over the years, 1 yr to prove the concept and 2 yrs to fully launch first "stable" iteration, then improvements from there on out to succeed (definition of success differs based on model/plan) - that'd be my swag of it... - mike "glemak" dunn
I like this topic Paul -- don't see it delved into all that much, at least in places that I tend to keep my eyes on - Eric Berlin
great topic.. longevity is key to successful product. if you are working on something new (not a copy of something else), you got to factor in some iteration time as well. It's interesting that many here are coming out at the same 2-3 year time frame - i agree also - Travis Parsons
I've been PM for an enterprise software suite for 8+ years now and it's taken that long for it to mature to the point where large corporate customers around the globe are deploying it for mission critical applications. We've gone through 4 major releases and countless minor/dot releases in that time. This is technology that originally was developed by a startup back in the 1996-2000 timeframe that was bought and sold via M&A activity 3 times in just over 8 years. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
“software is lettuce, not gold” (Brian Behlendorf) so perhaps it's never good.. particularly if you are marketing guy facing ever-changing competition - Travis Parsons
I'd say 2-3 years easily, just to get real traction and work out the kinks before the product really starts to mature (if it's any good to start with). If you're out too early and it stinks and everyone bails on it, what's the point? (Case study: Friendster.) - Brandon Uttley
somewhere between 3 days and 3 years - Gabe Ragland
Varies. You can nail it first time (rare) or you can work toward it from a decent base. The latter generally happens in the 2-3 year range. If it takes longer nobody adopts it unless they have to (or if they can change it). - xero
it depends on the company ( big, small or a startup) usually when big/established companies trie to build a product in a market which already has competitors, they try to make it game-changing (a.l.a iphone), or differntiate it ( gmail ) and this means spending sometime on the product to get it right and better. Also, big companies have the advantage of scale means they will have a user base that's willing to try their product out... This could also be a disadvantage, as they would need to worry about all the issues beforehand. That's the reason Google worries about scalability, Microsoft spends months to years testing their operating systems... I guess its different with startups.. how long did it take to build a youtube or a flickr or even a friendfeed ? Months ? Most of the consumer software startups work on their product for a few months and then put it out and iterate over it. - Krishna Gade
Until it's ready. Sort of like toasting a piece of bread. - Ryan Massie
Seems to me like it should be possible to develop software of low complexity in less than the 2-3 year range cited here. For example, Reddit was developed pretty quickly (3 months?), and Twitter must have taken only a few weeks. Of course, once that's successfull, you need to iterate and scale, but that's another topic I think. - Gabor Cselle
Reddit's initial version supposedly took 3 weeks, according to Spez. The fastest I've done anything that got any sort of attention was 1 week - Scrutiny, ArcLite, and Randomicity all took almost exactly that long, and it looks like my FriendFeed interview question will too. Of course, they needed (and sometimes didn't get) lots more time before they'd actually be useful. - Jonathan Tang
“Is there no one more interesting than Mike Arrington? FriendFeed tells me I find him most interesting. Louis Gray is still #2. Who is your most interesting FF'er according to FF stats?”
People I find interesting
Robert Scoble
Thomas Hawk
Steve Rubel
Scott Beale
Shey
Louis Gray
popurls
Leo Laporte
Kevin Rose
michael arrington - Andrew Smith
Says I find Chris Pirillo and Mona tied. It's definitely right, I am a big fan of Chris. - Michael Narciso via NoiseRiver
Louis Gray, You, T. Hawk, Queen of Spain, Hutch, Shey, Michael May, Technosailor, Tac Anderson and Michael Fruchter - although I have a feeling if Mona N keeps it up she may make the list soon - the expected camera phone pic of her in the emergency room with her fist in her mouth will probably be the tipping point ; ) - Marco
Louis is my #1, followed by Steven Hodson - Colin Walker
@steppek, @thomashawk, @scobleizer in that order. - Mike Wills
I'm not even following Mike Arrington ;) - Colin Walker
Mike is not in my list. Mine begins like Marco's: Louis Gray, Robert Scoble and T. Hawk. - Alejandro S.
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, Dave Winer, Corvida, Caroline (Vixy), Steven Hodson, Bwana McCall, Andy C, Susan Reynolds, Erin Kotecki Vest (Queenofspain). - Ontario Emperor
I'm sorry to say this here, I swear I'm not showing off, but NoiseRiver tells you for real if someone may interest YOU! :) - directeur via NoiseRiver
I need web stats to tell me who's interesting? - Michael Markman
People you find interesting
Duncan Riley
Louis Gray
michael arrington
Robert Scoble
Charlie Anzman
Chris Baskind
MG Siegler
Paul Buchheit
Mark Trapp
Kevin Hessel - AJ Kohn
I have a close one but, Scoble wins for #1 spot today. My own boyfriend comes in second. Oh dear. - Candace Holly
Muhammad Saleem, you Mr. Scoble, Jeremiah Owyang, MG Siegler and Duncan are my most interesting. - Ben Parr
Numbers 1,2 and 3:Thomas Hawk, Scott Bourne and Robert Scoble but It's a close race. - Bob
Robert Scoble, Paul Buchheit, Steven Hodson, michael arrington, Duncan Riley, MG Siegler, April Buchheit, Benjamin Golub, Frederic, Bret Taylor - Louis Gray
Thomas Hawk by far, but Mona N. is catching up - Justin Korn
Louis is way ahead of the rest , Corvida, Steve Rubel and Scoble are fighting for being the second best - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Edythe, T Hawk, L Gray, Scoble, Emporer, Patton, Rubel, Covida, McCall and Arrington. - Russellreno
You, then Chris Pirillo, Duncan Riley, Louis Grey, and someone who has apparently blocked me -- the wretched bastard! ;-) - Chris Baskind
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, l0ckergn0me, Steve Rubel, Steven Hodson, Dave Winer, Loic Le Meur, Charlie Anzman, Shey (although this list tends to change fairly frequently) - Duncan Riley
my top five, in order: edythe, Dave Winer, Scott Beale, Duncan Riley, Robert Scoble. Wow, edythe is my #1!! - Anthony Citrano
Michelle Miller, edythe, Mona N, Ryne Nelson, Erin Kotecki Vest - Roger Benningfield
Louis Gray, Robert Scoble, Steve Rubel, Brad Coy - Morgan
Edythe, Sacca, Paul Buchheit, hunter walk, Ginger Makela, RAPatton, Dick, Russellreno, Louis Gray, Mitchell Tsai. - Casey
Mine is (heh) Kevin Rose, then Alex Albrecht. Hmm? This doesn't surprise me whatsoever. - Lise
You are my most interesting person according to FF, but I'm a new member so that could change... - Brian Wilson
Mine are: Louis Gray, Paul Buchheit, Eric Eldon, Frederic, Robert Scoble, Scott Beale, Bret Taylor, Steve Rubel, Jess Lee, Steven Hodson - MG Siegler
Mine is an interesting mix of photography and tech. In order: Thomas Hawk, Louis Gray, JA Castillo, Brian Auer, Mathias Pastwa, Robert Scoble, Eric, Raoul Pop, directeur, Chris Nixon - Michael Hocter
edythe, ontario emperor, cecily walker, RAPatton, and Kyle Hebert. - Jason Toney
l0ckergn0me,ijustine, Veronica, and Robert Scoble are my main interests according to FriendFeed. :) - Daynah
I've realised I can't possibly do justice in a finite list, But; three people whose stuff I can't ignore: Karim, Edythe, Thomas Hawk. - Parth Awasthi
My top 5 (according to FF stats): Louis Gray, Steven Hodson, Robert Scoble, Colin Walker, and Jeremiah Owyang - Mark Dykeman
Steve Rubel, l0ckergn0me, Robert Scoble, Tad Donaghe, Duncan Riley - Richard Bradshaw
In order: Robert Scoble, Steve Rubel, Louis Gray, Jeremiah Owyang, Michael Arrington, edythe, mrsth, Michael Gartenberg, Dave Winer, Scott Beale - Thomas Hawk
My top 4: Robert Scoble
Louis Gray
michael arrington
Bret Taylor - Alex Hammer
"Upgraders, take note: Go ahead and “recycle” that old iPhone. Just be sure you know how much it’s actually worth, and don’t let anyone tell you that this is about saving the planet. Last year’s model is this year’s business opportunity." - MG Siegler via Bookmarklet
Does anyone know if you can move a SIM card back and forth between old new phone and new iphone, basically keeping the old one as a backup? - Chris White
you mean the 3G sim card chris? not sure, that would be good to know. - MG Siegler
Chris: I asked the AT&T clerk and he said that it would work. When I tried, it killed my old iPhone and demanded an iTunes fix. I didn't have the guts. But replacing the old SIM card did bring it back, so at least its a good iPod. - Russell Holliman
Russell, so it loses all the phone functionality, right? I was hoping it would make a good development phone. Did you update to 2.0 before you tried it? - Chris White
"The greater the need for energy, the greater the urgency to find a renewable solution and China appears to be (at least in part) heading in the right direction. A new report has found that China will likely achieve its target of getting 15 per cent of its energy from renewable sources by 2020 and perhaps 30 per cent by 2050. The U.S., by comparison, is working towards achieving 7.5 per cent renewables by 2013. Though, Al Gore says we can make it to 100% by 2018." - Jason Wehmhoener via Bookmarklet
