This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
We can move the discussion on my Natal thread to here. I do think this will happen, especially after MS announces that WiMo 7 will be completely Silverlight native.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
WiMo 7 -> Full silverlight (with multitouch) = SOLD
- Yuvi
I totally agree Yuvi. Plus, when WiMo 7 comes out, SL will have full 3D support as good as or better than what's on the iPhone. This is one reason why Apple MUST release an iTablet - just to keep ahead of Microsoft. MS is just too good at taking existing paradigms and gobbling them up.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
The more relevant question is... will it allow Silverlight before Flash? I think it's quite possible they will not allow either, especially with HTML 5 there should be little need.
- LogEx
Yuvi has a point. Eventually, maybe. IF Apple can be convinced that Silverlight can actually give a great user experiance (blah, blah, blah) and thats its worth their while. If Microsoft licensed it for free to Apple, i'm betting that the use of silverlight will increase dramatically.
- Roberto Bonini
MS will NOT charge a license to develop WiMo apps, and there are a hell of a lot more awesome .NET developers than Obj C developers. MS's app store will take just about any app and MS will take less than 30% or maybe nothing at all.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Flash has a bad name when it comes to being responsible for crap applications.
- Roberto Bonini
@Roberto: If Apple is okay with it, then you don't even need MS - Moonlight! I'm pretty sure it'll get a surge of new devs if Apple announces support in the iPhone
- Yuvi
Moonlight won't be used on the iPhone. I guarantee MS is currently in ongoing talks with Apple to get full Silverlight support in the iPhone. It will take a while for Apple to allow it but they will.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Tad, why do you say Moonlight won't be allowed? It's BSDish licensed, iirc
- Yuvi
from IM
Didn't say it won't be allowed (although I doubt it will be) - my point is that MS will negotiate for full Silverlight and give Apple tons of cash to allow it. Full Silverlight may mean more functionality than Moonlight. More devs will target SL than Moonlight.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
don't think so. what exactly do you think silverlight does that won't be available natively in the browser in the next 6-8 months? disclosure: far as I am concerned proprietary web plugins can go frak each other and get out of my browser
- mjc
No indications that Apple will support it. Not sure why they would.
- LogEx
They will because Silverlight buys them a MUCH larger developer pool and they can make Microsoft bend waaaaay over backwards - a lot further than they can with Adobe.
- Internet's Tad
I'm not sure Silverlight would even work on an iPhone. Isn't it for Windows?
- Vezquex: God of FF
Isn't copyright law one where you have to show that you're actively defending, lest you lose it? It's a lawyer's dream. You can't be lax about it. Must defend.
- Phil Calvin
The worst part of this is that the trademark filing was only this past April. I am not sure if they will be able to use it against applications built prior to the filing. If they do attack apps like TweetDeck and Tweetie, then it will become obvious that they do not like their developers.
- Rob Diana
According to Leo Laporte Twitter doesn't even own the registered trademark for Twitter. Sounds like Twitter needs to decide *what* their trademark actually is. But yes, they have to defend it once they decide that.
- Jesse Stay
and your trademark doesn't have to be registered to exist - just has to be defended and identify your brand
- Jesse Stay
Am I just imagining things, or as recently as month or so ago weren't Ev, Biz, et al pretty much refusing to use the word "tweet". I always got the impression they were embarrassed by it.
- Ken Sheppardson
Does Twitter even have a General Counsel?
- Jesse Stay
You know, come to think of it, I don't remember even seeing "Tweet" being used until TweetDeck came about. Maybe the Trademark more rightfully belongs to TweetDeck?
- Jesse Stay
But strange trademarks are registered all the time. It would take lots of time and money to go to court and see what a judge would say.
- Pat Hawks
TweetDeck has some money - they could defend it, and seek damages as well
- Jesse Stay
Where's Iain Dodsworth on all this? Does he have any thoughts?
- Pat Hawks
Doesn't have to be a made up word to be a trademark. Just has to be distinctive in that industry, right?
- Pat Hawks
Owens-Corning has trademarked the color pink
- Pat Hawks
Regardless, I don't think Twitter wants to go down this road.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Okay. I'm going to chime in here. For a short while after college, I worked as a private investigator (yes, seriously) at a firm and we investigated trademarks. Pat and Sean are right; it has to be distinctive to that industry. In case you were wondering, my job was to privately seek out registered/filed TMs to see if that was indeed the case.
- Tamar Weinberg
Tamar that's awesome (you being a P.I.) I'm now imagining you in a Detroit Tigers hat. :-) So who has more right to the "Tweet" claim - TweetDeck or Twitter?
- Jesse Stay
Sean that's a different Trademark - that's when used in that manner in a song. Trademark has to be specific to your industry, as Tamar says.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I'm no lawyer; I simply did research and compiled legal reports. However, TweetDeck existed BEFORE the trademark was filed so chances are Twitter would NOT be able to usurp the name from them.
- Tamar Weinberg
I'm pretty sure TweetDeck was using the term, "Tweet" before anyone else, even Twitter. I think they claim right to it more than anyone.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, yes, I think they probably legally can. If you can show it has existed prior to the trademark filing, the new trademark owner probably will not be able to enforce it. One of the questions I asked when I investigated trademarks was when the product/service was first used. "First use" needs to be shown in the trademark app. The TWEET trademark filing by Twitter does not show a "first use" date, which is interesting.
- Tamar Weinberg
I think Twitter may be able to enforce that nobody uses the word "Tweet" from the time that Twitter filed the trademark app and onward, but it would not be ethical nor would it be legally enforceable, I believe, to force people to get rid of the names they'd been using forever PRIOR to the filing.
- Tamar Weinberg
p.s. if you're curious, the trademark serial number is 77715815. You can also access it here: http://tarr.uspto.gov/tarr.... The link in the TC comments doesn't quite work.
- Tamar Weinberg
Tamar, very interesting - I wonder if TweetDeck could sue Twitter now on basis of prior art
- Jesse Stay
I would argue I started using the term, "Tweet" because of TweetDeck, not Twitter. People have come to use it due to the use of the most popular Twitter client, not Twitter itself. I "Tweet" through TweetDeck. Everywhere else I just "Twitter".
- Jesse Stay
This is all beyond what I ever did -- it's definitely interesting. If Twitter threatens TweetDeck, they (TweetDeck) may have a leg to stand on. To be honest, I'd really need to find out if Twitter could actually *get* a trademark given that the word "Tweet" is so ubiquitous and relates to products that have been on the market prior to the filing. I really have no idea if the US...
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- Tamar Weinberg
I don't think TweetDeck just pulled "tweet" out of thin air, did they? TweetDeck came out in July 2008, but the term was already widely used by then.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd actually encourage any and all companies using the phrase Tweet to file a Notice of Opposition against the trademark.
- Tamar Weinberg
Ken, I wonder who the first to use "Tweet" is. Tamar, agreed - if I had "Tweet" in my name I'd be talking to my lawyer right now. The notice is probably pretty standard and most likely only an hour or two of work you'd pay for.
- Jesse Stay
FWIW, they only filed for the TM. They haven't been granted it yet. Maybe they won't be given the circumstances.
- Tamar Weinberg
It's looking a lot like they won't get it, ironically thanks to trademarks their own developers have applied for:
- Sam Johnston
So I got the adapter for my iBook's (dead?) hard drive so I could put it in a PC and run Steve Gibson's SpinRite on it, but I'm wondering about these pins that the adapter doesn't hook on to. What's the deal, and clue?
yeah, that makes sense... thanks Pat
- Chris Heath
Yep, looks like jumpers. You should be able to ignore them. Does the drive work?
- scott willeke
either later tonight or tomorrow i'll hook it up and see what happens... thanks for the help
- Chris Heath
so the pc i'm putting this drive in doesn't seem to want to boot any cd that tries to look at the hard drives during the boot process... :(
- Chris Heath
Do you have more than one drive on the same cable? Are they both set to "Cable Select" (or CS) with jumpers?
- scott willeke
i first tried as a slave, then as the only drive and my boot discs were freezing at the initializing discs stages... the drive was recognized in bios
- Chris Heath
I'd argue it already is happening in smaller chunks. Automated tools are extracting tags from web data and assigning them with some confidence levels. Isolated connected graphs have happened, they're just much harder to realize. How about a "soft semantic web" where data association is stronger?
- Mark Essel
A bet needs a time-frame though... How about in the next 5 years?
- mikepk
mikepk, We're betting on one to happen before the other. But your right there should be a wash date. "hey we're both wearing diapers and looking at our dentures fiz, let's call this bet off."
- Mark Essel
"Hollywood loves the shit out of some Smash Mouth; presumably because their songs are genetically engineered to get stuck in your head like some sort of incurable mind-AIDS."
- Pat Hawks
Years ago, I went to the movie "Freddy got Fingered" just because the trailer looked so dang good. Turns out, the movie was horrible, and all the trailer footage was from outtakes that played during the credits.
- Pat Hawks
"An underground youth culture in Japan with distinctive music, fashion and make-up, where the skin is darkened using tanning products is spreading worldwide. Young people in the UK have been learning about the intricacies of 'manba' by making friends on the other side of the world using social networking sites and learning how to re-create the style through videos on YouTube."
- Jess Lee
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