Funny how the startup life of late nights and constant code-cleaning begins after u come out of beta in this case :)
- Kamath (नमः)
Congratulations. I'm on leave enjoying the first weeks of our baby girl's life & our +1 family: do make sure to make time for this if you can!
- Wade Dorrell
Congrats. Just brought our fourth, a little boy, home today. Kids are a wonderful blessing!
- Gary Gifford Jr
from iPhone
here's my advice about having two babies in your house: let me tell you that is a lot of babies. you might want to add a third adult to your household to scale the load :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
Twitter is more reliable than YouTube these days. I think we've just walked through the looking glass.
- Tom Milsom
Arrington quits iPhone and now TechCrunch goes down? Coincidence? :o
- Kevin Whalen
They should have gone with Rackspace. I can imagine Arrington will be fuming.
- Mark
@TechCrunch: TechCrunch is experiencing some turbulence right now. Please remain in your seats and fasten your seatbelts. http://www.techcrunch.com/ about 1 hour ago from web
- Qbat
so many speculations... I'm sure the site is down for no special reason and will be up soon. the important thing is that I already read the quitting the iPhone post :)
- Orli Yakuel
Might be a DNS issue, like what happened to me (OpenDNS). Wow, and Twitter seems to be better thenthose two sites, and it fort of replaces them. Coincidence?
- Zachary TG
from Nambu
almost funny.... I hope they had a funny down picture like twitter
- blackysky
Mark: I've learned never to pitch when someone else is down, it just brings bad karma your way. I'd rather win business on service, APIs, flexibility, overall quality, etc, not on whether you're pissed off because your host is currently down. EVERY host will go down, and if you aren't planning on that you aren't making good architectural and business decisions.
- Robert Scoble
I'm like that, too nice and honest. That's why ruthless people in business like Trump and Murdoch etc are zillionaires and I am poor :D
- Mark
I'm enjoying the growing movement that believes Twitter is a waste of time. From what I have seen so far of FriendFeed I hope it replaces Twitter. Disclaimer: In my humble opinion of course.
- paul watts
People often ask me what ROI do I see from twitter and I just point them to the blog and website numbers showing where traffic comes from.
- Stephen Brown
if i've more $ i would already head 2 rackspace was my 1-2nd choice
- polou/indigo_bow
robert i vote this post as THE BEST FF post ever. so funny
- Ouriel Ohayon
Ha Ha Ha , who will write about Techcrunch downtime
- Michael_techie
Because you didn't just leave quietly, you needed to make sure that everyone who was on FriendFeed understood that you were leaving because we were losers. So I lashed back.
- Robert Scoble
Lots of people call FriendFeed names. That's nothing new and I didn't key in on any of them. Just search Twitter for hundreds of examples.
- Robert Scoble
But when you delete my work when you leave, then you are a jerk. And when you deride my community as lame as you leave, then you are a jerk.
- Robert Scoble
Technosailor wrote that the content was his to delete. No, my comments are NOT his to delete. At least not without being a jerk.
- Robert Scoble
Cool! I'm seeing the updates on this one as you type them!
- Adrian Scicluna
Hans: It's High School 2.0, I haven't called anyone a stinky-poopyhead, yet.
- Raymond Mendoza
Hans: keep your hands off of my toys. :-)
- Robert Scoble
No, it's real-time Kindergarten, stinky-poopyhead! << for Raymond
- Nick Wade
I never knew of that other guy until this thread. Wonder if his twitter follower numbers went up after this?
- Jim Connolly
And my line has been stolen... I know I should have copyright'd it.
- Raymond Mendoza
probably will Jim good point, I was thinking all publicity is good publicity, according to his blog he could use some capital
- Mark Essel
Well, I'm outta here. Jim: yes, they went up. Why? Bots and spammers. Everyone's numbers are going up.
- Robert Scoble
It's been fun - catch you around Mr Scoble ;-)
- Jim Connolly
Actually, we need College Humour to do a FriendFeed spoof
- Marlin Forbes
I'm still itching to make a pitch to a) a social media company b) a search/ad aggregator. twitter and google probably don't wanna play nice. maybe friendfeed and microsoft. There's always a facebook app :D Or the far out Baidu & fanfou
- Mark Essel
If you missed the original announcement/comment thread in question and know English or Greek, you can judge for yourself how it went down (see attached PDF here: http://friendfeed.com/micahwi... )
- Micah Wittman
I'm taking my ball and going home...
- Alex Esplin
Robert. Cambridge needs you. Great that you are here again. Enjoy.
- Philip Baddeley
from iPhone
Well Robert, I guess you should get FriendFeed to do what Twitter did and make all of your comments belong to you rather than the person who's post you commented on.
- ChiliMac
Jim: No doubt the followers went up...SPAM! @technosailor, @technosailor, @technosailor...
- Austin Smith
And @Scobleizer...life's too short...my vote is that once content is either posted or commented, it becomes public domain, much like, you know, EVERYTHING ELSE on the internet! Wat u guys think?
- Austin Smith
No "EVERYTHING ELSE" is not assumed to be in the Public Domain just because it "ends up" on the internet. If that were true then there would be ZERO lawsuits regarding copyright infringement over things "ALL OVER THE INTERNET". ((c))2009+ by "ME"
- CLC Radio
So, like Yo @everybodyontwitter get that?
- CLC Radio
I don't want to comment on this just to get my name on the page. That would be childish.
- Mark Drapeau
Can I be in the mob too please? Is it too late? I want to be in the mob!! Hello!!
- Dave Winer
This seems to be a community policy/software issue. Most communities don't allow folks to delete comments and posts because it leaves a hole/gap in the conversations. The profile is marked inactive when someone leaves the community - either leaving the user name intact or replacing it with a more generic one. The right to delete a user account should be a personal one, with no...
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- Pat Graham Block
What? There's another view? Please post.
- Ken Morley
I'm pretty sure it's in the collection "Never Eat Anything Bigger Than Your Head", published back in the early/mid 70s. I know I've got it around here somewhere...
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
Applaud your courage to make such a difficult decision
- Rick Turoczy
I should write this post about what entrepreneurs should avoid to keep going. One of them is avoid reading people who say "I was right see, this failed I had said it would". Did you ever say/comment that? If so, you are full of shit.
- Loic Le Meur
Embracing change and maintaining the ability to move quickly is essential in today's economy. It always was on the Internet but the pace it so much faster now. Diversification isn't a bad idea either
- Charlie Anzman
I for one, stopped using Seesmic when development slowed to a crawl, axed their community leaders, & promised features that never surfaced.
- Greg
I am rooting you on. The minute you take time to listen to someone less passionate, focused, talented or smart... you loose a part of yourself. I'd have you on my next advisory board anyday.
- James Watters
The thing is though Loic: You made a video technology that no one wants to use and you took 12 million in funding for it. How on earth do you make that money back with a free twitter / facebook client? Take Tweetdeck for example, they borrowed almost 40x less money than you and they haven't made a return yet - $300k.
- Mark
Greg and Mark, your encouraging words made my day, thank you :-)
- Loic Le Meur
There's no such thing as 'failing' in life, only a step to something bigger and better. What they call 'failing' is a nudge from the universe to make a turn to the right or left. Love seesmic desktop!!
- Myrna
I am pulling for you Loic! I thought the whole video talk to a webcam thing was a little dorky. But hey, it was worth a shot. You'll hit on something. Plus I love the way you speak, you remind me of my father. He spoke very poorly but was very wise, as are you.
- ZuDfunck
Loic: People who say "I told you so" have never built something out of nothing before. I would rather be the bloodied idiot in the center of the ring with a shot at the title than the timid sideline genius with no chance for glory ever. Keep swinging, it takes guts to stand naked with ones ego and history is made forward, not read backwards.
- Chad Harris
Onward and upward - is there any other choice? Only if you lose your vision, passion, and desire to change the world and build something great... very small amount of people, even on here doing that - kick ass Loic!
- Mark Harai
It can be hard to follow a conversation on Twitter ... Do you think they'll add threaded Tweets linked to from the original status message?
- Ideas At Random
Maybe there should be a way that Friendfeed could pull in @replies from Twitter, and place them in the comments of the respective post here, regardless of whether they have a ff account or not?
- Tim Young
@Random there's already a in-reply-to id, but not all clients support it, and it is quite limited anyway
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
I think FF is a far superior web application to Twitter but for a lot of people, Twitter is social media, just like AOL was the internet to a lot of people in 1995.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
@Jean-Charles VERDIE Have you ever used the "Nested Twitter Replies" plug-in for FireFox? http://userscripts.org/scripts... It's a GreaseMonkey script that follows the reply-to id you talked about. It would be cool to have this type of threading offered by the standard Twitter status page.
- Ideas At Random
While Tim's idea is great, I'd rather FF spend time making FF better, rather than giving the most basic of conversational features to twitter.
- Andy Bakun
Twitter is a good tool to keep in touch with a few people via SMS sometimes. Friendfeed can't do that (nor of course, was it designed to). I've always maintained FF and Tiwtter and two different tools for different (but sometimes overlapping) services. I have never understood why so many folks seem to pitch them head to head in some kind of contest.
- Ian May
I actually considered linking the rss feed of my @replies with FF, so that, if someone was curious to see the rest of the conversations I have on Twitter, they could.. but that wouldnt organize it. Andy: I agree. My biggest pet peeve is that most people think of FF as just a Twitter app, when it's not at all that. But if the people at FF are sitting around one day, with nothing to do, I wouldn't mind them working on porting in @replies. :)
- Tim Young
Tim: yes, let's keep that at a priority of "FF is fucking awesome, now what are we going to do?".
- Andy Bakun
With only conversations in mind, it might not be a point of getting it, but a point of acting upon it. Conversations are at the focus of FriendFeed, and you get involved more and with more people in the context of a single conversation - you get a post covering a topic, anyone can join in, and it's instantly visible to everyone. On Twitter however it's really hard to follow and engage...
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- Ivan Zuzak
I really feel twitter is a half baked system. Someone described it as micro-RSS and that is exactly right IMO.
- Geoff Schultz
I really like FF's "My discussions" tab ... Makes it easy to follow real time discussions you've commented on and check the progress ... That's also why I like http://www.backtype.com ... It lets you track your comments from all over the web into one place & then add it as a data source to FF
- Ideas At Random
Every time this discussion comes up, I find myself wondering why Jaiku wasn't more popular.
- Donald Forth
Donald: Jaiku's UI wasn't very nice and once it got to Google it stopped iterating and getting better.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: As one of those rabid mobile Twitter users, I confess the point you make, while quite valid, is a difficult paradigm shift. Routines can be hard to break and the shift from mobile tools for Twitter, and heavy SMS, to completely web-centric FriendFeed is a huge change in "work flow" and in thinking. It's been a challenge and is still a struggle, and I'm sold. Even being sold on...
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- Ken Camp
@Ideas @ Random -- There is a Greasemonkey script (@troy... something's script) which I run that shows threaded conversations on the Twitter homepage.
- Miss Elle
the paradigm might be the problem. i was excited to see this tweet and, out of habit, responded back via twitter ("scobleizer looking forward to monday's blog. twitter is, many times, an unrepentant 'black hole' of information" & "and data which can be reliably retrieved often requires the extraordinary efforts of people, tools & tech outside twitter") when i should've come Here directly. twitter seems to be stuck in a morass--unable to make easy things easy...
- wishinoo
Ken: Most of my FriendFeed activity is done on my iPhone. I don't see FF as being web-centric. :-)
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
MarkL I might agree with an iPhone. I don't use or want one though and thinking a iPhone answers mobility overlooks most of the market. I use a Blackberry and am unlikely to change. Robert and I have talked about this as well. I do use an iPod Touch, but frankly, it's simply not a useful interface for me and I don't do FF on there either. If FriendFeed is going to succeed in leveraging...
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- Ken Camp
Yes, Ken, it is amazing to me that FriendFeed hasn't funded more mobile clients yet. I don't notice that because I am on an iPhone but they definitely are betting on the future of mobile instead of where it is. That is a very good strategy, worked for Microsoft very well, remember?
- Robert Scoble
It is a stepping stone, that once one takes, moving from Twitter to FF, you seldom look back.
- Thom Kennon
re: FF being fucking awesome, you can get utter Luddites hooked. Step one, open them an account. Step two, add some people they know. Step three, set it as their homepage, so that the home feed is opened when their browser starts. That's it. Wait for a week, they'll start liking stuff and commenting. I bet it also works on senior citizens. Because it's really intuitive, it just sounds incredibly complicated when social media geeks start expounding on its virtues.
- Goran Zec
Agree that FF is wonderfully intuitive. I'm a relatively new user and still finding new things I like. WRT whether or not FF should work on how to thread Twitter conversations, I'm with Tim. It's too big a shortcoming of Twitter (in light of its current uptake rate) to have *someone* not put effort into figuring out how to do that. May as well be FF; odds are good it would be done well. Then the conversation "URG, how do I..." gets answered with "simple, FF". Seems like a potentially big win.
- Scotty Perkins
Robert,: I can't argue about the potential strategy of treating iPhone as the only phone. But it does leave a gap since iPhone makes up far less that 5% of the mobile phones on the planet. To overlook SMS is to overlook a huge part of the world and an overwhelming market. That's not to say it won't be lucrative and powerful. But it leaves a hole that will be filled by someone. And...
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- Ken Camp
And I'm really curious how many iPhone users are NOT using the browser on their iPhone to use FriendFeed. I haven't seen a lot of buzz around other clients. To say it isn't browser-centric because they use it on their iPhone (via the browser) isn't terribly credible to me.
- Ken Camp
Robert, I'm glad you took time to explain that. I confess - I have been guilty of expecting the obvious ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I can see Twitter's character limit an issue, when a user does not also have a FriendFeed account.
- Nicholas Chase
Ken - SMS message pricing is going exponentially upward now. Telecoms are putting artificial pressure to phase them out and get people on to IM and the like, so they can reclaim the bandwidth for something less silly.
- Matthew DeVries
Ken: I'm using BuddyFeed on my iPhone. I also post items from Safari using the BuddyFeed bookmarklet, including photos. At least 80% of my FriendFeed activity takes place from my iPhone.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Mark: The struggle for Ken and I both is we use Blackberry's. If we used an iPhone I'm sure it would be different but we don't. We're tied to the Blackberry devices. As far as I can tell, the only way to use FF from a mobile device effectively is with an iphone. None of the other phones make it as seemless. It is one of the BIG drawbacks for me, and why I still use twitter for most of my communicating.
- Sheryl
Matthew: I don't see SMS pricing going up anywhere. I actually see carriers at the business level talking about reducing pricing. It's a near-zero cost to carry and no management overhead or bandwidth of consequence is involved. As a 30-year telco business veteran, I expect to see it get cheaper, easier and more abundant for the next 2-3 years. They cannot force most of the world to IM,...
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- Ken Camp
Mark: Thanks. I haven't looked at BuddyFeed, butdo use Twitter clients on both Blackberry and iPod. Like Sheryl said, we use BB, but we do use our Ipods too. Maybe BuddyFeed or AMigo by a friend will give us more friendly mobile tools. Sadly, on the Blackberry, the web interface and fftogo are simply unusable. They're our only mobile options.
- Ken Camp
I use MotherFeed to post from my iPhone. I've pretty much stopped using Mobile Safari to get to FF. I don't use my WinMo phone for FF, but I keep meaning to try out that app that's in alpha right now.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Sheryl: That's because the iPhone isn't a phone. It's a handheld computer that you can sometimes make phone calls with.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
..and when given on FriendFeed, the answer can be twitted. Should make everybody happy ;)
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Mark: I agree the iPhone is like a mini pc, but interestingly enough so is the Bold. The one thing iPhone does better than Bold is provide a multi window opportunity, but my Bold has a qwerty keyboard which for me makes it a much nicer device to use. I would like a downloadable app for my bold that would allow me access to FF not dissimilar to socialscope on the bold for twitter, or...
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- Sheryl
@Ideas at Random: this is a GM script. Works only with Firefox (tried it with GreaseKit on my safari, ain't work). I can't remember but there's a website providing that kind of service too. But my point was that it was a very poor system and that Twitter _themselves_ should provide something more consistent
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
wish qik was in the app store right now :( --
- Bryce Campbell
When will Qik be coming out for public?
- Andrew Smith
Andrew: they won't say (can't say, don't know?)
- Robert Scoble
Qik IS in an app store - Ovi Apps. Works awesome on an E or N Series ; >
- Thom Kennon
@Robert, is this the jailbroken Qik or the appstore Qik? We talked about this yesterday, but you didn't mention that you had it. NDA or something?
- Joey Gibson
Andrew: I'm sure they are trying to get it approved by Apple and AT&T right now. It works great and now that the iPhone 3GS has video, they should approve the app.
- Robert Scoble
Thom: and Qik is also on Android now.
- Robert Scoble
Joey: not jailbroken, but it's a developer's version that they made specificially for my iPhone 3GS.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: What do you think about Android - A game changer?
- Jim Connolly
I don't know enough to comment. Is this good quality for a phone?
- Todd Hoff
Jim: potentially yes. But it feels like 1993. Remember then? Apple's Mac was way ahead of Windows.
- Robert Scoble
Todd: yes, considering it's live video. If you want non live video, you can use YouTube. Let me upload one of those.
- Robert Scoble
bet now with video on the 3G S, something will come (or in progress), just hope they make it compatible with the 3G
- Bryce Campbell
Any idea when this will be available, Robert?
- Tom Guarriello
Looks cool and again I am jealous hopefully Apple will approve it
- Kim Landwehr
Looks great, and sign me up if they need testers in Canada on Rogers network :)
- Andrew Smith
Ohhh the "world from inside a fishbowl" camera effect! exclusively from iPhone #fail. - but hey! at least you can copy/paste now. #win
- Enrique Gutierrez
Looks pretty good, but QIK on the 3-4 Nokias we use is comparable. Blackberry is ok. N95 is the best quality, but that's a lens feature.
- Ken Camp
Andrew Smith, agree with your comment ;)
- Bryce Campbell
Robert, what size monitor are you using and what is the screen resolution?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: It's an Apple 24 inch monitor. 1900x1200.
- Robert Scoble
I had qik on my broken 3G. Worked Good. I have 3GS now. Would like to see the difference. Hopefully Apple will release soon. You get all the cool stuff first Rob. It's good to be the Scobleizer. !
- johnpiercy
I don't think it looks good at all.. It has the same wobbly (rolling shutter) issue as the older iPhones. Which is odd, since it doesn't show up *as much* on the normal recorded 3GS videos.
- Rodfather
well quality to me looks pretty good for a phone, also looks better than the 3G, what i like about Qik is not the quality of the video but the content, not that i would use it all the time, but when something i want to record like a event in which would help the authorities or whatever may be the case.
- Bryce Campbell
Is the "fish bowl" look due to the glare off that monitor? Maybe do a live test where there isn't a reflection -- is that possible?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Qik has their codecs turned down pretty low from a quality standpoint. It won't stand up against the h.264 native version being fed to YouTube.
- Jerry Schuman
Quality looks really impressive on Youtube. Will save me the fuss of getting a Flip machine for daily shootings.
- Nir Ben Yona
If they approve the app I'm buying a 3gs.
- Craig Shipp
The YouTube quality is a lot nicer, but it's not live either. Liveness is very important to me a lot of the time because you can chat with me while filming.
- Robert Scoble
LPH: yeah, the reflections caused that. Sorry. It was just something quick and dirty.
- Robert Scoble
This is great news! Hope that Qik app gets approved by Apple, though.
- Rom Feria
Robert - nothing to apologize - I wondered if that "look" was due to the reflection. I really look forward to trying this out on my own 3G S !
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's possible the processor is being taxed so much since it has to encode the video and stream at the same time. The rolling shutter issue is still really bad.
- Rodfather
Rodfather: the Qik app needs to compress the video much much more than the YouTube one does so that it will work over 3G live.
- Robert Scoble
Since this is wifi - are you also going to do a 3G one too?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH: yes, but I don't have 3G at my house, so that will need to be later.
- Robert Scoble
What is the upload and encoding time for YouTube for a one minute video? Also, can you add the video to a playlist via the iPhone?
- Craig Shipp
I fully expect to see Apple to get into the realtime video stream game. It's in the core competency and they're building both the online ability as well as the hardware support.
- Jerry Schuman
What is 3G like in general around were you live, then? You are somewhere around San Fran, Robert?
- Christopher A. Wichura
how long till you can do a live remote video feed via me.com and seen in realtime on your AppleTV?
- Jerry Schuman
The problem is not Apple it's ATT and not enough bandwidth
- Craig Shipp
Yes Robert, but the quality doesn't look all that much better than from an original iPhone/3g and the 3GS has a much faster processor. It could be the frame is slow. One of the things to get around the rolling shutter effect is increasing the framerate.
- Rodfather
You must be doing something right Robert, Steve Gillmor just liked your Qik video from the 3GS ;-)
- Jerry Schuman
I can't wait until the 4g and HD streaming video....maybe next summer. That will be a game changer for sure.
- Craig Shipp
Robert, Excellent - I look forward to the 3G test too. It should be illuminating !
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Flips next evolution should be something akin to embedding a mifi ability so that its straight to the network and they can augment their revenue stream and they actually become a friend to the video enabled 3/4G phones
- Jerry Schuman
Robert - while thinking about this - do you have the low down on a Ustream version of live broadcasting with the iPhone? Any public word?
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Jerry: Steve Gillmor is a media innovator. I bet he's thinking about Gillmor Gang 6.0 or whatever we're going to call it when we start that all up again. :-)
- Robert Scoble
RE: Qik; looking forward to that Android running, WiMax enabled Samsung device for Sprint...
- Christopher A Carr
I, for one, am definitely looking forward to GG6.0. I have an itch I need to scratch.
- Jerry Schuman
Robert: how is the 3GS going anyway - is it worth buying?
- Geer
Geer: it's faster. The camera is better. It does video. It has a compass. It seems to use less batteries. It seems to drop fewer calls. So, yes, it's worth it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: good feedback, I would like the camera/video, but I think I will continue to give my "plain" 3G a few more months!
- Geer
so they should be using apple's private APIs, if you say it's not jailbroken
- Konstantin
Robert: It'll be Gillmor Gang 2010 of course
- Greg Byrne
Apparently not. So here it is again, no I don't live there, my daughter does, she sent me the picture. We've visited a couple of times. It'll be a nice place when it's finished ;-)
- Gilbert Harding
Seriously, any chance you have this in 1920x1600 or bigger? I'd love to use it as my desktop, and I'd be happy to send you some link love.
- Uche Ogbuji
that is a wicked photo ... unreal ...
- johnpiercy
I've NEVER seen it foggy there. Amazing picture. Thanks for sharing.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
This photo is missing its artist credit. I believe it was taken by photographer David Hobcote http://bit.ly/10bwrr or maybe pal, Imre Solt, another fine photographer of the Burj Dubai. If you want to see the month by month progress of the Burj (means tower in Arabic) go to this site http://bit.ly/HJv2L The tower is supposed to be complete by this September, 2009 for its planned opening.
- Kay Designer
Kay, I don't know who took the photo, it did the rounds by email in Dubai and my daughter sent it to me. This video may interest some. http://www.youtube.com/watch... taken 2 days after the opening of the Dubai Mall it shows the building site around that and the Burj Dubai.
- Gilbert Harding
Hi, I have a bunch of pics I took for Dubai trip but here is one of mine of the Burj here: http://bit.ly/kY0N7
- Kay Designer
Thank you Luca. The problem with Dubai is 90% of the city - is just TOO new and empty. But, Most newly constructed sites, do look fake. But once trees grow (or the sands blow!) people move in - it won't look like that.
- Kay Designer
Rackspace customer support/service is amazing..but the price for a managed dedicated server can be a bit much for a start up. They just launched their cloud platform with more affordable pricing. i will keep you posted on their level of support/service with this new platform. hope it is as good as the existing service with a dedicated managed server.
- sandy rowley
Heck Leo the iphone guys designed it to do that. I read it would be seemless. I wonder about any apple infringement? I'm sure they thought it through
- Rock
anyone know when the pre comes to australia?
- Bill Thomas
Sounds like the Pre has an identity crisis. ☺
- Jim Lecter
Now Leo I still maintain you recommended the Storm and I hope you don't do this to me again. Please. Don't get mad I just hang on your recommendations and just maybe I heard wrong.
- Rock
Awesome... Wonder if Apple will have anything to say about this.
- Jeff Matchett
Well it's supposed to. The USB identifier is the same as an iPod.
- Dave Zawislak
Does the handset feel cheap? Every review I've seen so far said that the sliding mechanism felt loose.
- Ryan Whitwam
I'm headed to the sprint store now and demanding one today. I know they have it in stock now. If I succeed I will let you know
- Rock
rock: didnt leo strongly dislike the storm.
- Anton Tanderup
That's probably a bad move on Palm's part. They should've done what other 3rd party players did get an ID instead of trying to pretend to be an iPod. I bet Apple could take legal action on this issue and win.
- Mack McCoy
I bet this will last until the next system update from Apple :)
- Bryan Lyle
Crazy - wonder if Apple is going to drop the hammer on this soon? Can Palm be sued under the DMCA for this?
- Mike
Not at all Ryan. It feels great. Palm has hit a home run. I think there are some software flaws - it could be a tad more responsive - but those are easily fixed. I'm buying one tomorrow.
- Leo Laporte
Leo you have Paul Thurott on now... Get on line show us.
- Rock
Nicholas. Disagree. How could this not be intellectual theft? All the Palm did was hire a hundred fifty Apple people. Rubenstein must've taken some magic Apple dust with him, too. I hope the lawyers don't give Palmista's too many nightmares.
- Phil Boiarski
Looks like photos, unprotected music, and podcasts sync. Not Audible books.
- Leo Laporte
I don't think an iTunes update is going to bork this. If iTunes is recognising iPods based on USB IDs, and the Pre is pushing an iPod USB ID for it's mass storage device, then iTunes updates won't be able to do anything about it without breaking compatibility with iPods that use this USB ID. Taking Palm to court, on the other hand, might do the same thing from a different direction.
- Andy Bold
There's a PalmPre Unboxing on the schedule for 9pm (Pacific) tonight.
- Matthew
Leo: Do you think the Palm Pre is going to be good competition against the iPhone?
- Jason Hansen
With only 8GB's of storage, who cares if it syncs with iTunes. Not like I'd be using it as an iPod.
- Jeff Self
Just thing of all the money apple can make from Palm Pre sales
- Brian Cowie
I was able to get my hands on a Pre for an hour yesterday. As an iphone owner since day 1 I'm very impressed. It has all the glitz and glamour of the iphone with the 2.0 software. ( plus cut, copy and paste and the ability to run multiple apps. Oh yeah and a dedicated keyboard too. All the features worked really well, especially synergy. The calendar app on the Pre makes the iphones implementation look like a really bad try.
- Micheal Weihrouch
that's pretty funny Leo! It looks like a great device. Can't wait too hear what you think about it.
- Kevin M Lindow
Yea it is suppose to be able sync (for now) I think. I seem to remember reading something about it.
- Shawn Snodgrass
The Pre USB hack also includes the fact it is made by Palm in the USB ID so it would be easy for Apple to block it. DVD John discovered how they did it
- Iain
Oohhhh, Leo... If you can copy DRM free music to the Pre, is Palm condoning piracy?? ;)
- Stan Augustyniewicz
Stan, DRM free music is music that doesn't have DRM (like the amazon store, the iTunes store since the recent change, and other music stores) Loe was just saying that his DRM music didn't transfer over to the Pre
- Chris Heath
Hey, Leo, can you and/or the cottage crew do some sort of evaluation on Palm Pre battery life vs number of apps running in the background?
- Stan Augustyniewicz
from BuddyFeed
Yeah... I don't think Apple are going to let that one slide...
- aminorjourney
*Your* Pre Leo? I thought you just had it on loan for review purposes for a week?
- David Bradley
@Glen, that's funny because the first thing I though of was, not liking the typeface. Okay, maybe 2nd thought I had. First one might have been, Holy shit! Boobies!
- ♥patricia♥
4. If you pitch me here, I'll follow you so you can send me direct messages here, which are a TON better than DM's on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
5. Other people can join in, which will help you make your pitch better.
- Robert Scoble
6. You can use more than 140 characters.
- Robert Scoble
I think you will really respond to the content of my film and so will your followers... its all about teens who run for public office in America and youth empowerment!:)
- Jason Pollock
8. Your pitch here is permalinkable, along with all interactions.
- Robert Scoble
u rock scoble! thanks for all your great advice:)
- Jason Pollock
9. If you are really spammy I can delete you and I can block you so I can keep this room clean for real companies and real PR people.
- Robert Scoble
I like it a lot that one can post comments on the frienfeed embed at the crunchcam page. No need to go through friendfeed.com/something to comment on a thread anymore
- Charbax
10. I can reshare anything here to both my friendfeed followers (36,000+) and my Twitter audience (88,000) with one action.
- Robert Scoble
Also, Check out http://www.140Love.com It's a new dating service that is built on top of twitter. It's a pretty genius idea and I think single tweeters will love it! Here's a hashtag for it... #140love
- Jason Pollock
11. We can talk in real time here back and forth, like what Jason is doing.
- Robert Scoble
nice! thanks for the info and then mention scoble.. u rock! friendfeed is fun.
- Jason Pollock
I'd like to pitch you on a new product I'm developing that reduces the green in avatars.
- Rex Hammock
Great idea. I've bookmarked this page for the future. Quick question...does this mean you want to be removed from relevant press release emails? (emphasis on relevant)
- AllisonWagda
friendfeed is even better, though, for all these reasons.
- Robert Scoble
hmm.. now if I only had something to pedal. Anyone want to look as some pics of my niece and nephew? http://www.kevinmurray.com There, pitch complete.
- Kevin Murray
Brilliant idea!! Hope to read a post on how this works out for you ; )
- Katie Fox
12. I'll actually answer you here, at a rate 100x more frequently than Twitter and 1000x more frequently than email.
- Robert Scoble
13. The editorial staffs of TechCrunch, Wired, and VentureBeat tell me they hang out on friendfeed very often. Wired even does all its editorial workflow in a private room here.
- Robert Scoble
14. Every time this room changes it pops to the top of my "Groups" list, which prompts me to come here and check it. Far more attention getting than DM's on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
15. Any comment added onto a pitch makes that pitch more searchable. I just added the word "enterprise" onto one of the pitches, for instance, which will make that easier to search for me.
- Robert Scoble
Kudos. Love this list...From Saint-Saturnin-de-Lucian, France Pop. 229
- La Peira
Sorry you can't join us for the Intuit Town Hall Thursday, but if you could spread the word via Twitter or wherever I know they'd be really jazzed. They're streaming live at http://bit.ly/intuitth and tweeting @intuittownhall. Let me know when is good for you to talk about Intuit this week. I'm a huge fan, so thanks for your time!
- Meri
99. As @wellcomemat's Chief Stand Out Officer (CSOO), I feel compelled to say hello. Hello Robert! Now check out the most powerful local video player on the internet: http://bit.ly/xFMDr
- Mat Man
Ok, here goes! Get yourself educated about how the US Federal Government is deporting families: http://bit.ly/xlI5T Spread the word
- xxx xxxxx
So not to be too much of a naysayer robert, but what happens when this medium becomes overwhelming for you as well (since you started on email, moved to facebook, moved back to email - though a new address, and now here)?
- Jeremy Toeman
Hi Robert, I’ve got a Silicon Valley startup has an engaging new way to manage the information you track on the Internet. Check out the personalized list they’ve created for you. And if you think that’s cool, you should check it out on your iPhone or G1. Go to www.ingboo.com, click the log-in button, for user name paste in: robertscoble@ingboo.com. For password enter: robert01. Let me know what you think. I can take you deeper into the app and their business model upon request. Chao for now.
- Rick Popko
David: Ha. I can definitely understand the iPhone thing, but taking a laptop into the loo is something that probably requires other arrangements, eh.
- Nir Ben Yona
CK, baratunde: essentially, its capacity to extend Twitter in very useful ways. Creating small friend lists here (to track separately from your main feed) is easier here than with Twitter desktop apps, and the results come in in real time. I also turned on IM notifications for select friends. Remember Twitter had IM? They took the feature away.
- Gabe Rivera
The last couple days on Twitter have brought me back to FF as well
- Costa Walcott
Gabe - any plans to add services like FriendFeed/Backtype/Reddit etc to Link Search option in Techmeme. Tried Link Search on top headline i.e. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL... and got zero results from Google Blog Search/Ask and IceRocket returned 5.
- Atul Arora
Atul: huh, putting a URL in FF search does come up with useful results, so I think I'll add FF to the link search list. If those other services have backlink search currently available, please list sample query urls here and I'll take a look. (BTW, to see what Atul's talking about, click "Preferences" on Techmeme, then click "Show Link Search".)
- Gabe Rivera
Gabe bit.ly also does link search and returns FriendFeed, Twitter and Backtype results for all bit.ly version of that URLs e.g. http://bit.ly/info/8XNa4. Since @TechmemeFH and @Techmeme are both using bit.ly the link search is simply adding the + after the URL i.e. http://bit.ly/8XNa4+ for the bit.ly based link search.
- Atul Arora
Gabe, here's a link to our connect feature which shows all the conversation around a link (digg, reddit, twitter, friendfeed, hacker news, and posts that link in): http://www.backtype.com/connect...
- Mike Montano
Mike - so what is bit.ly using to show comments from backtype. It shows zero comments. Is it filtering comments so that it only shows comments from the blog page?
- Atul Arora
Thanks Mike, Atul. I will take a close look at this later and probably add some more link search links.
- Gabe Rivera
Atul, yes they're using a method that only fetches comments from the page being queried, though full connect functionality would be a nice addition imo.
- Mike Montano
I agree, except that it should be easier to add an external feed other than through the cumbersome creation of an "Imaginary Friend".
- Derek Mahar
My mustache is more lustrous and thick after switching to FriendFeed. I have a lot more energy. Even my wife has noticed certain improvements in my usefulness around the house. Thanks FriendFeed! [I BLUSH]
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm still going to say that I think links to friendfeed discussions on blog posts belong on Techmeme. ;)
- Thomas Hawk
Wait, is this sarcastic Twitter Gabe or normal Gabe? What persona have you decided to adopt on FF? :)
- Matt Cutts
@mattcutts: hah, no I'm serious here. FF's current feature set now offers great value to me. I suspect FF still has a major challenge offering a compelling and differentiated product to the Oprah crowd, but that doesn't concern me (and FF may nail that eventually).
- Gabe Rivera
I have already noticed a massive increase in followers on friendfeed recently. Anecdotal evidence indicates friendfeed is growing (I find it has a higher utility as well)
- Jordan Willms
Hotels on Mexico's Caribbean .. offered free vacations for three years to tourists catching swine flu while on holiday http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel...
I think the battle of what service is "better" has effectively already concluded. Now, Twitter can use its mass muscle and do whatever they like. What a blunder.
- Louis Gray
I'm hoping this kind of nonsense will bring more people over to FF.
- Michael McKean
annoys me that I might have to get used to using friendfeed. I know you love it scoble but I have long preferred twitter
- Clint
Twitter's response: http://twitter.com/dougw... and http://twitter.com/al3x... (at least that's what I think the last one is about).I replied to @dougw: What they're really saying is "i don't know about this OR i don't understand this OR i don't need this." hence the @techcrunch piece. maybe "i don't understand this" is a good reason for taking the feature away (i disagree), but that is @jasonkincaid's point, no?
- Guan Yang
Andrew: except that friendfeed has FAR better friend management. FAR better search. FAR better feature set (wait until you start using feeds and saved searches). And a FAR better community (very little spam and almost no assholes except for me. Heheh).
- Robert Scoble
Ev's just replied they're considering alternatives. That was quick.
- Sameer
@Robert Scoble: +5 You scored a bounty with that last comment
- David Damore
I really dug seeing my friends interact with other people. I'm really irritated that the feature is gone just because people "might" not understand it. Sounds like the retards I contract with at the moment.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
They should just have left it the way it was: let the user decide if he wants to view those @s or not. There is no need to be "considering alternatives".
- 321
Robert I just posted on my blog about this http://bit.ly/NbBFs ... I agree it probably helps friendfeed but I would like to see Twitter handle this snafu with a little more grace than facebook has handled similar situations. It gives Twitter the opportunity to shine in a way. They can shine by listening.
- Jesse Newhart
@Jesse Newhart: Did you see the last tweet from @ev? "Reading people's thoughts on the replies issue. We're considering alternatives. Thanks for your feedback." http://twitter.com/ev
- David Damore
321 has a good point. This feature wasn't broke to begin with. They gave users the choice to change the @reply options and explained it well when you tried to figure it out.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Scoble, step away from the ff coolaid! Do you want to repeat the great Leo laporte jaiku debarcle?
- Darryl Adams
from Nambu
David aka admore yes I saw that thanks. Doesn't mean we should stop posting about it just because Ev is 'considering alternatives'. :p
- Jesse Newhart
Don't piss off the Twitter community.
- Adam Reyher
Friendfeed seems much more friendly to me! Love the conversations. Way easier to follow threads. Think I'll start hanging out here with y'all.
- Ruth Helfinstein
321 hit is on the head... maybe he should change is name to 123 cause of how simple of a solution that would have been for the boys down and Twitterless. And where were they getting their data from that this was something users desired? I can't see too many people other than the really fickle or those that don't "get" twitter needing to remove replies?! Perfect push I needed to come to the friendlier feeds :)
- iamkhayyam
Twitter execs just borrowed the Facebook asshat and firmly donned it for themselves.
- Scott Schablow
I have my FF settings to publish all my "likes" and comments to twitter - hoping twitterers who would like to have actual conversations will wake up and come over here.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
the day i question the @geekadvancement & @shiralazar about treading the fine line of exploiting and /or embracing the geek culture, twitter decides to disable @ replies. @wilw's blog puts it into perspective.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
To remove an option completely is a dimwit thing. #fixreplies
- Jacque
I agree, when I saw that I hopped over to FF again, when you take away flexibility you take away a certain demographic uses the service. I have found more interesting people through replies then really anything else
- J. Doss
This stupid move by Twitter made me wish all the more for a mobile tool for FF that's usable. That's my ONLY issue with FF...it's simply unusable on mobile for me.
- Ken Camp
I was thinking exactly that today when I noticed that I still saw the replies here - brilliant.
- shira
Twitter now says it was a change required by engineering, not by user feature not being used. LOL
- Justin Long
Didn't twitter just remove the setting option, but continue to display @ replies?
- Steve Garfield
I'm contemplating an image of a failwhale shooting itself in the foot...
- Linda Mills
Steve the way Twitter has handled communication about what they did is pathetic and that may ultimately be they're biggest failing.
- Debi Jones
they display replies to YOU, but if your friend (i.e. Scoble, either one) replies to someone you are not following (friend-of-friend) then you won't see THAT reply.
- Justin Long
completely eliminates social discovery. its like going to a party and unless your friends with both people, not being able to hear any of the conversations. your friend's talking to someone you don't know and you can't hear... its like being blind to every conversation. Ridiculous!
- Justin Long
The number of new subscribers I've received on FF has exploded over the last 24 hours. People may be voting with more than their complaints and hashtags. Twitter could redeem itself by leap-frogging @replies and bringing back a more powerful discovery tool and that is of course - TRACK
- Debi Jones
ha i tried "track" only to have it twittered instead of an active command. i wondered what had happened to it.
- Justin Long
@scobleizer is there any way you can convince the friendfeed guys to create a simple replies feature (so I know when someone replies to a post) and/or threading (which I realize is significantly more complex than a simple reply view). This is a huge part of why people use and stick with Twitter. I doubt the shortcode/SMS is still a major factor.
- Jason Nunnelley
imho, threading is the way to go. Just like Jaiku does it and has always done it. Dunno why this is still missing from FF. And please don't bash Leo, Jaiku has been better made than Twitter, more features (but all made sense, no useless crap) and the threading. It just worked, and there was nothing big missing UI/UX-wise. Until google decided it doesn't care about microblogging, that is.
- Vlad Bobleanta
Overnight, I've become a major fan of FriendFeed. Less "silliness" than on Twitter, IMHO.
- Brandon Cox
The Twitter change would help push more traffic FF's way. Looks like Twitter are making changes based on all the -ve feedback though
- Mark Warren
Is that good news then? Sorry, isn't that good news then?
- Gilbert Harding
baratunde: there are always ways to buy ads. Did you notice all the brands on Twitter? Those are ads. My account is an ad for Rackspace, isn't it?
- Robert Scoble
If the ads do come on twitter which is the best place to display them? Below the user profile or with the tweets?
- ashish
I think Twitter is utterly inane and stupid, but even I won't deny there are eyeballs there - why *wouldn't* an advertiser want to be there?
- Eric P
Gilbert: it might seem to be good news, but not good news for Twitter. At least not as it exists now. He says that search might get him interested in future, but not enough of the demographics he wants to reach.
- Robert Scoble
@ashish Not ads in the traditional sense, more in the sense of promotion
- Joel Haasnoot
I think the best use / argument for using twitter for any company is the ability to 'real time' with potential customers. P&G? I'd tell them 'you can talk to people about to do the dishes or complaining about dirty clothes the moment they note they are having an issue'. Any company that doesn't see value there is really out of it.
- Andrew Leyden
Sounds like he is about to be converted.
- David Damore
Here's what Twitter is against: he can reach more people in one 30 second spot on a popular TV show, like Lost, than he can in an ENTIRE DAY of YouTube. Now compare YouTube's numbers to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I think P&G would be stupid not to be involved in the field: it'd be like waving the future goodbye. Yes Twitter is an up and coming fad, and it's "in development" as a marketplace, but is has its spot...
- Joel Haasnoot
this is more of a case of how do they effectively justify and measure the impact of a said ad on said service, it'd be better to make good products and let users emote brand goodness via twitter than to just buy a parking space on the site
- Dan Rockwell
Sell him an ad on twitter for $50 and tell him it was great ;)
- Patrick Boegel
OH Ok, I always think ads in traditional format.
- ashish
I would tell PG you can reach more screaming to thousands but wouldn't you rather converse with the dozen or so who are in the 'soap' aisle of the grocery store ready to make a purchase?
- Andrew Leyden
@Robert Scoble: Is it about reaching tons of people OR reaching the "right" people?
- David Damore
It was partly tongue in cheek Robert, but only partly. He's also right that Twitter doesn't have the demographics for soap powder.
- Gilbert Harding
Yea, what David just said (I think we both said at the same time)
- Andrew Leyden
Robert: that assumes the people watching Lost who don't have a DVR are watching the commercials anyway. Lost does not "reach" more people for P&G it offers the potential opportunity to reach more people but P&G still has to find a way to be heard in :30 among 5-6 other advertisers every commerical pod.
- Patrick Boegel
Twitter has the demographics for "Engaged Consumer". P&G should want those folks on their side. TV ads for Hush Puppies would not have been as powerful as that small group of SoHo kids wearing Hush Puppies were for Hush Puppies.
- Jerry Chacon
This is the same thinking that I heard 5 years ago when PR people said "we don't get blogging, why should we blog?"
- Alex Scoble
This is an interesting conversation. Please add your thoughts and comments.
- David Damore
It's completely backwards...you don't "buy" ads on Twitter and friendfeed. The space is free...all you need is to pay someone to spend the time to be involved in the community. If he doesn't see the value in that, then I guess he'll probably be surprised when P&G is hit hard by a viral consumer driven campaign against them at some point.
- Alex Scoble
They may be able to reach more people with TV, but the conversations about Procter and Gamble is being done through Twitter. http://u.nu/53c5
- Sharon McPherson
Not everybody in on internet right now and specially twitter which is so focused on the tech savvy people. It won't hurt to start a baby step though.
- ashish
What ads would he need to buy? Couldn't P&G just benefit from an account to follow potential customers and occasionally send an informative tweet?
- Brendan Clancy
Tell your P&G guy that I saw a Tide truck on the highway the other day that had "Follow me on Twitter" written all over it. Seems to me they already are advertising with Twitter :)
- Kevin Kuphal
They don't have to buy ads there but they should at least have accounts ;)
- Nicholas James
I have to respectfully disagree with those here that don't think P&G's target market is on Twitter. Go to search.twitter.com, put in "doing laundry" and see what comes up.
- Sharon McPherson
But a 30 second ad during Lost is push not pull for a start and add to that the fact you can't customise a user interaction to every single viewer of a TV programme however well profiled the audience is against P&Gs key demographics and that's if they haven't popped to the loo or gone to make a cup of tea in the break.
- Crispin Heath
Just because he's not considering buying ads there doesn't mean their customers aren't there. If you're not going where your customers are or potential customers are then you are missing out on possible ways to engage people with your brand. This man clearly doesn't understand the power of the crowd.
- Damien Basile
from Nambu
I had word xerox printer on one my tweets and the next day i saw one of the xerox dealer following me and than one ink supplier. It seems like trying to hit the target with just the ear open and eyes closed. Some user won't like it and might even block such followers, think spam. In other scenario, the user might feel little close to that company and happy to receive a tweet.
- ashish
@Sharon McPherson +2 for you. Nice ;)
- David Damore
Maybe he should consider a FF account too considering how much feedback he has already gotten.
- Brendan Clancy
@Brendan Clancy +1. Great way to have a real time focus group. Re: Friendfeed
- David Damore
Procter is the classic example of the shotgun advertisement model. They are not into creating content and develop conversations which is what Social Media marketing is about. To me advertising will suit mass market products and transactional affairs the most, conversational marketing will serve services and products north of $ 80.
- Guillermo Zambrano
since when can u buy ads on twitter?
- Carole Hicks
I love Erin's comments here - and she echos some similar notes I've made before outside of the mommyblogger crowd. Blog because you have a passion for what you do and care about something. Be something. Don't sell out.
- Louis Gray
The points she makes works for almost all bloggers
- anna sauce
Right. I'm not familiar with "mommybloggers" and the problems with that community, but it sure seems like the critique could apply to any group of bloggers anywhere.
- Big K
Excellent post. When I wanted to add a batch of mom-related blogs to my RSS reader recently, I had a hard time finding blogs with actual CONTENT that weren't just full of reviews and giveaways.
- Rochelle
You know, you never hear anything bad about the Daddybloggers.;-)
- Brandon Mendelson
Actually, Brandon, though you were clearly joking... I think it's interesting and perhaps a bit peculiar that no guys I know of have self-identified as "daddy bloggers" even though some of them (here's lookin' at you, LG :P) rightfully love showin' off their young'uns. And yeah, Big K, I think you have a good point re: this not being an issue specific to MommyBloggers.
- Adam Lasnik
I am a proud father but just don't think that blogging about my son's every move is very interesting. Totally loved Erin's post, though.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, isn't that what twitter is for now? ;-)
- Chris Heath
I've always wondered why more daddies-that-are-primary-care-providers don't blog more. I've seen Moms who are at home start the blogging thing, but not the guys.
- anna sauce
there's actually a lot of daddy bloggers but they don't get the label like we do. its not just blogging though, when I'm out and about Im' always identified as a mom first. but...that's not really here nor there to this discussion
- Erin @queenofspain
@Anna, I'm not going to lie, I've been thinking of doing the "daddyblogger" thing when our first gets here in December. But like Mr. Scoble said, I'm hesitant because I feel like there needs to be a unique reason to do it, but that's a comment for another thread. I enjoyed Erin's post.
- Brandon Mendelson
not to mention. I blog about politics, other things a lot too. but I still get called a mommyblogger
- Erin @queenofspain
Brandon, that quandry reminds me of when I started my workblog. I was *so worried* that my clients would see it as an infringement on their privacy. Far from that, not 5 months later they were asking me why they weren't profiled more (as they thought they had an inside track). I think the reasons you start doing it may be different than the reasons you keep doing it, basically.
- anna sauce
From what I get from mommybloggers, it's not a love of their children that make them want to blog, but more, the community they get in an otherwise isolating experience (being home-bound caring for small children & starting a new role in their life, as care-givers). I see it as a response to the nuclear family issue of - when your siblings & parents & community IRL aren't around, you create your own online.
- anna sauce
I probalby shouldn't (in that it's obnoxious) comment on the "why" as I'm not a mommy blogger. ha!
- anna sauce
This is a GREAT post. I'm a mom. I blogged when my son was younger. My kids are grown up now and my interests evolved. When my son was young, since he had a bone disorder, I looked for an outlet. Blogging grabbed me, I looked for resources, looked for a place to scream, looked for commiseration, and lastly looked for respite. Don't know why some people view the mommy blogger realm as the place to pitch products or services, I suppose even that arena can't escape the annoyance we face elsewhere on the net.
- Sheryl
Certainly not the case on FriendFeed. These folks are my FRIENDS. Friends don't take money to chat up some product to each other - certainly not without disclosing the fact first. I think anyone who tried would be quickly shunned and learn the lesson quickly. I'd never take money to shill something to my close friends.
- Internet's Tad
That is one thing I am worried about with Comic Book Goodness, I sell comic books, and have a blast doing it, cause comics are fun, and try very hard to keep the sales bit out of it, difficult at times, but I try. Otherwise, my thoughts are my own, uncompensated.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
BTW - my answer is no. You're trying too hard. :)
- Louis Gray
Well, I am a community manager, and I do use social media to promote and support users of my client's sites, but I don't do it under my accounts. I have gotten nothing (excepting job offers) from my social media activities. There are plenty of us that just jabber at each other, too.
- Neal Jansons
ok louis - i don't want to believe it either but we are certainly moving in that direction
- Allen Stern
The "$" idea mentioned in the comments would probably be the best idea.
- Nicholas James
I am glad that you are redesigning, will it look more tech?
- Zachary TG
Not true. redesigns should happen in the background and be "Launched"
- Cody Heitschmidt
I'm glad the goofy pic of you pointing to whoever is gone.
- Alex Scoble
Yeah, this is just plain weird to me... seems like some sort of dev/staging vs production distinction is in order.
- Ken Sheppardson
Go for it Robert. Action breeds clarity. Iterating while getting feedback from outspoken people will allow you to arrive at a better end result. That doesn't make Cody and Ken wrong, but you are taking a different approach for sure... and your blog is still readable while you change it.
- David Muir
Tim: because it had stuff on there that I no longer wanted. I also wanted to "rip it down" to the basics and get rid of the pressure to "make it prettier."
- Robert Scoble
This is a dollar bill taped to the floor of FriendFeed's headquarters. It's a bit of social engineering. They figured out it kept people from tripping on the cord cover because people noticed the money on the floor.
- Robert Scoble
The dollar bill trick doesn’t work with strippers though ;)
- Moved to Facebook
@Earl: Consider it a stripper-filter, then. You know someone's a stripper if they trip over it.
- April Buchheit
for some reason i expect a "stripper filter" to be something coded using regular expressions. sad, i know.
- Karim
The message here is that Web 2.0 companies are so ignorant of money and revenue that they even step over a dollar on the floor
- Jason Carreira
from twhirl
Interesting. The photo has been viewed more than 500 times, but has only earned 62 likes and 19 comments. So, for every 1 thing we can see here there's another 9 people hanging out lurking in the shadows.
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble the old 90-9-1 rule :) (well almost)
- Naor Mark
You could always just superglue some road kill to those things. Nothing gets people's attention more than a dead opossum.
- Andrew Leyden
Heath And Safety in the UK would not approve....but I do!
- Toby Graham
"but has only earned 62 likes". This currently stands as the most-liked Flickr photo of all time.
- Vezquex: God of FF
I forgot about that photo. It does work, though. Everytime I visit friendfeed's offices I see the dollar and I'm careful not to trip over it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
That's dumb. Why couldn't they afford to run the cord somewhere where it wouldn't be in the way in the first place?
- Robert Peña
As an IE I can state that's definitely not something to publicize. Definitely not OSHA Kosher.
- Adi
Reminds me of the deli counter in grocery store in Scotts Valley across the street from NorCal offices of MetaCreations (the Fractal Design arm of it). Local companies'd go there for lunch daily. PROBLEM: Deli counter pencils (for marking your sandwich menu) disappeared at frightful rate. SOLUTION: Deli affixed pencils with price label. Price: $100.00. Pencils stayed at store. :)
- Susan A. Kitchens
Haha I like that trick for keeping Pens from going missing Susan!
- Garin Kilpatrick
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