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Paul Buchheit
I am Paul. I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe.
Perhaps irrational problems do not have rational solutions.
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Who's to say any of us act rationally though? I sure hope I don't. Nothing interesting comes from being rational.
- Daniel Zarick
What makes a problem irrational? Besides not being representable as a fraction of integers...
- Gabe
That seems rational.
- ·[▪_▪]·
The greatest enemy of logic is illogic.
- Johnny Worthington
Or perhaps, as Duchamp said, "there is no solution, because there is no problem." http://www.toutfait.com/online_...
- David Bausola
in math they usually don't, right? but sometimes... just sometimes....
- Chris Heath
In game theory, it is much harder to defeat an "irrational" opponent than a rational one. Reminds me of The Usual Suspects...
- Ruchira S. Datta
Quite right there, Paul, they don't. Irrational (from our point of view; wholly rational from the Irrationals') problems require counter-paradigmatic solutions, or they'll never be solved. Perhaps not even then.
- ianf ⌘
It's only a matter of time before eventuality solves everything.
- David Bausola
You mean, like in the "inevitable singularity" dilemma?
- ianf ⌘
It is rational to expect irrationality from the world. Perhaps rationality is just a sanity sparing invention.
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
sqrt(2)+pi isn't rational.
- Rich
via iPod
Is the mechanism Paul that you are using to make that observation rational or irrational?
- Todd Hoff
Logic is overrated, anyway.
- Victor Ganata
via iPod
Perhaps rational problems have irrational solutions
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
sounds like you had Problem Y, which shouldn't have occured, solved by Solution X, which shouldn't have fixed it? it is important to distinguish between "irrational" and "rational failure modes you don't understand." ;-) also, just as "irrational problems" are sometimes caused by hidden, unconscious, or unstated interests, the solutions are sometimes discovered unconsciously... i was going to add THAT'S WHAT THE RIGHT HEMISPHERE OF YOUR BRAIN IS THERE FOR but that is clearly my right brain talking. ;-)
- Karim
Logic is under-rated.
- Tanath
You have to figure out what axioms might make the problem rational. Then you can use logic to try and solve it. If your axioms insist that the problem is irrational, of course you're never going to find a logical solution.
- Victor Ganata
We may be the youngest people here. Where am I now?
Alfredo, Tyson Key, Darren Heydon and 9 other people liked this
are we going to guess from your iPhone? This is why we need to be able to edit entries to add photos... :)
- Tim Hoeck
probably gonna need one more clue at least ...
- Laura Norvig
Silver Lake in LA, CA. LMAO
- Anika Malone
It's too late for the Blue Plate Special. I'm stumped.
- Christopher Harley
Florida?
- BEX Happy Long Weekend
Bingo?
- BEX Happy Long Weekend
Chukchansi?
- Rodfather
Arizona?
- Jordan Hofker
Maternal ward?
- Larry Hudson
A tomb?
- Andrew C
Retirement home.
- Rochelle
The past?
- Vince DeGeorge
Hint: it's an event in the bay area.
- Paul Buchheit
via iPhone
Symphony? Opera?
- Jim Norris
A crossword puzzle tournament?
- Gabe
+1 Jim
- Karim
an art museum?
- Clare Dibble
Dinner boat?
- Alex Power
some kind of niche music event.
- ashish damania
A bridge tournament?
- Robert Felty
graveyard
- sridhars
Not where you were.
- Dave - SustainedEuphoria
Senior lunch program?
- Rahul U
2 hours and we still don't know? Must be fun hanging with the seniors :P
- BEX Happy Long Weekend
Bingo Night?
- Hutch Carpenter
A different place then you were yesterday.
- Dave - SustainedEuphoria
COBOL developer conference?
- Karim
One more thing: All of our iframe embeds (including search) support a css=URL parameter to enable custom style. We haven't documented it yet, but see http://friendfeed.com/buildin... for an example and howto, and http://www.building43.com/ to see it live.
Bruce Keener, Tyson Key, Dimka☂ and 75 other people liked this
Amazing
- zsafwan
I was wondering how they did that! Thanks
- Frankie Warren
But how do I customize the title so it's not the long search string?
- Jesse Stay
We're going to fix that very soon Jesse.
- Paul Buchheit
Could that (improper instancing of by louisgray.com) be the cause of http://ff.im/4J6lp ?
- ianf ⌘
Thanks Paul - that will make me feel much better about keeping it there. :-) I've got some huge community improvements coming soon that I'm hoping to integrate FriendFeed with.
- Jesse Stay
I may be missing the howto, but developed my own way awhile back using object tag, and placed in a drupal block.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
Freaking GENIUS.
- Jason Huebel
Paul, first tried to embed in the post, but did not work out. Then I embedded the search in a sidebar widget, that worked: http://www.amsterdam20.nl - any tips how to make the embedding working in a regular WP 2.8 post? Or is this not possible b/c it is an iframe? TIA!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Ah this was what i was looking for.
- Burcu Dogan
Nice - very cool.
- Cliff Gerrish
Is there any chance of losing the scroll bar? I know you can manually increase the height but would really like this frame to automatically grow on my site. Or is this technically impossible atm? Either way, a very cool feature. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Paul.. thanks for the "undocumented update".. it's nice to have such open access to what's happening at FriendFeed. I'm used to the "Wall of Silence" from Google and THAT gets old and extremely frustrating fast.
- Chris Myles
Cool. I just discovered the embed flag yesterday. I like loading the feeds in the firefox sidebar.
- Peter Warnock
Kol, I think you are a little out of luck.. since an Iframe is just a "window" to another URL, the main page needs to define the size. Without it the browser would need to load every iframe page just to determine how to render the main one. However It would be nice to have an embedded option that allows the "N more comments" concept (more details here http://ff.im/4fGzH), it takes up...
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- Chris Myles
Chris, so the iframe is not the way forward? What alternatives could achieve this? I don't mind putting in some code to embed my FF posts properly (with a frame).
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, I'm not sure where you got the impression I don't think Iframes are the way forward, I was addressing your issue of "losing the scrollbar". An Iframe is the only way to get "real time" updates.. you could always roll your own javascript, ff API , DOM based utility but it would only get you the content at the time of the API call. If the FF team thought http://ff.im/4fGzH was a good...
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- Chris Myles
So there is no other way to get real-time updates without an iframe? Once we can get rid of the scrollbar then I can use it on my site.
- Kol Tregaskes
FF can only update pages they own! BTW in its current form I think the benefits of an embedded FF post (or group etc) far outweigh any minor side effects of a scrollbar. I'd love to use friendfeed as my entire blog commenting system, I'm just waiting for a couple of things (http://ff.im/3TfED) to automate the process.
- Chris Myles
We would love to embed a private room on internal Deki Wiki. The last time I tried it still had the sidebar. I will try again to see if you have made it possible to do this.
- Christian Burns
via iPhone
What three things have you purchased that have brought you the most happiness? (re: http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...)
Jannifer Stoddard, Tyson Key, Kol Tregaskes and 32 other people liked this
iPhones (but really gadgets in general), bikes, new computers
- Ross Miller
my wife's engagement ring, my dog Samantha and ... nothing else really comes close
- timepilot
One-way tickets. :)
- Aviv
Eons ago: my first Mac - an SE30
- J. Mike Smith
Bikes, books, vintage keyboard (I love my Model-M)
- Henry Prêcheur
Do wives count?
- Gabe
from the article: "Boats: very costly, very disappointing. Never buy a boat."
- Clare Dibble
Clare: a boat is a hole in the water that you throw money into.
- Gabe
Nikon D90, books & graphic novels, Beats by Dre
- Ralph
Books. Sailing vacation in Virgin Islands. Recumbent bicycle.
- Fred Yankowski
Big TV, Android phone, herb.
- Slippy 2.0
Canon 70-200 f2.8L IS, 2 other things that don't come to mind.
- Russellreno
Honda Civic (1996), wedding ring (1997), Nikon D300 (2007)
- Victor Panlilio
My soul. I should have never sold that sucker for super bowl tickets.
- Todd Hoff
coffee, acrobatics & trampoline classes
- Seth
New macs, digital SLR, pair or running shoes
- Johnny Schroepfer
via iPhone
G&L Tribute, AC15CC, AC4TV
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
Vaio, iPhone, Akiva. And I didn't purchase it myself, but I love my D300.
- Rochelle
Rochelle, Akiva, and Alex.
- Cristo the Troll™
Whoo!
- Akiva Moskovitz
My citizenship in the USA, my degree at Berkeley, and my bike.
- Piaw Na
My drum kit, my new 7-string bass viola da gamba, and lots of plane tickets.
- Joel Webber
Paul: What three things have *you* purchased that have brought you the most happiness?
- April Buchheit
All of my books, my Epson Rd1s Rangefinder camera and yet to find the third :)
- Bhowmik Shah
Apple stuff, cars and Springsteen tickets.
- Diego Barros
Macbook/iPhone, ticket to Rilo Kiley (helped set off series of events much greater than the one concert), Xbox360.
- Jandy
I brought my mother a pink Gund Bear about 20 years ago. She now suffers from Alzheimer's and loves that nice soft bear..so that would have to be number one....
- Bob DeMarco
Nikon, Zune and PS3
- John D Reasor
Jesus Christ... cost me nothing ... :-)
- Sherif Mansour
My bike, my guitar, and the seeds and supplies for my vegetable garden.
- Alec Proudfoot
I don't remember what brought happiness but I do remember what brought misery: mortgage for a house.
- Dallas Cao
It is impossible to purchase happiness which never stays for long and flies away. If it did stay for long it would not be happiness. Realistically, My first board game, my first PC and my first laptop.
- ashish damania
My Macbook, Blackberry, and Car (In that order)
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
Hmmmm, nice question. 'purchased' option creates rethinking. Food at nice places, Nokia E50 (I still crave for a cost effective alternative), home (last year)
- Nitin Nanivadekar
My Garmin Forerunner 405 (best sports gadget ever), my iPod, and my Paella pan. Any of these break or vanish and Im shopping for a new one tomorrow.
- Threepwood
Books and computer accessories
- Arvind
Four front teeth, a bike and a boat. If buying a boat brings you misery....your doing it wrong. We've had some of our best family fun times on that boat. We love you Getaway Bay 2.0!
- suzanne
Friendfeed, i got me for the price of free .........that brought me the most happiness
- Petr Buben
Peacoat, laptop, and concert tickets :D
- Rudolf Olah
We just added a "Best of day" link at the bottom of the page. The best part is that it works for friend lists too, so you can have a "Best of day from family", etc. Thanks to Matt Cutts for the suggestion (http://friendfeed.com/mattcut...)
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awesome, but pls bring this to the iphone too... i really miss best of day on the iphone
- Zee.
Suggested Tuesday, implemented Thursday. #wonderful
- Mitch
Nice! I was just thinking about this today, but it'd also be awesome to have a "Best of" link for user profiles as well, so it'd be easy to see which of a users (or yourself) updates/posts were the most popular
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
This is huge news for me, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
via iPhone
What Sean said. It will also be useful to decide whether to subscribe to a user or not.
- Vishy
I agree -- soon I hope.
- Paul Buchheit
The "by list" portion is very important. Well done.
- Louis Gray
*falls on floor*
- Johnny Worthington
w00t! I got a "file not found" error on the iPhone, but I'm hoping that's temporary. This is rocking--thanks for adding this feature!
- Matt Cutts
You guys are full of incredibleness today
- Charlie Anzman
Boy, you're just cranking the improvements out! Amazing stuff!
- Rick Cogley
sweet
- Alfredo
this is good. how about also adding best of week and month and putting the same tool on searches as well?
- Thomas Hawk
Awesome...I've really missed this since the redesign.
- Mark Krynsky
And guess who comes up twice as soon as I click this new feature...? Paul Buchheit!!! :-)
- Ton Zijp
This is great but hopefully will be expanded to groups, users and saved searches too? And agree with Thomas about best of week/month too.
- Kol Tregaskes
Friendfeed, you ROCK!
- alfred westerveld
I found the link long before this post. Very cool.
- Russellreno
Can we get email/IM alerts for "Best of Day" for lists? I would love to get these pushed to me. Thx.
- Steve Rubel
WOW I love you guys I missed the feature sooooo bad!!!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Duck family going up the down escalator - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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that's just cruel ;)
- Mohomed Abdullahi
awww. the poor things : )
- vijay
lol
- mMakino
It looked like they were… spawning? (more and more ducks flew into the picture)
- ianf ⌘
sounds like they are heavily complaining about those strange "rocks" constantly coming towards them. Oo
- Dickbuttkick
Ducks don't seem the smartest of birds, imo.
- April Buchheit
Someone needs to put music to this - it could be the next keyboard cat
- Jesse Stay
true, I suggest Benny hill soundtrack http://www.youtube.com/watch... there is nothing better
- Dickbuttkick
Oh, there's better - Benny Hill Mashed with 50 Cent: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Jesse Stay
OMG where did you find that?!! sooo cute!
- Susan Beebe
X)
- James Cooper
via iPod
A few people have been complaining about "troll"comments on FriendFeed (and I believe the word "syphilis" may have been thrown around), but the comments on my posts never seem to sink below the level of "amusing". What am I doing wrong?
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Maybe you're just not easily offended. Some comments in your posts have been a little out there IMO.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Not enough Scoble, I guess. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
Yes, some of them are out there, but those are more often amusing than offensive.
- Paul Buchheit
Nice comment @Scobleizer ;)
- David Damore
I think there are people here who call anyone who thinks differently a 'troll'. I see it all the time.
- Anika Malone
You clearly haven't implemented the right features to get the uncov folks here. Get back to work!
- Bruce Lewis
You're just not feeding in the crazy. Crazy Feed ACTIVATE!
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Ignore Anika. She doesn't really see people like that. She's just trolling. ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Post a volatile topic regarding politics or religion and then get back to us. :-)
- Trish R
Well, you aren't an a*hole negative nancy, like some people who use the word syphilis. :)
- Sean MacDhai
Trish, are you subscribed to Paul? He's posted plenty of those.
- Bruce Lewis
*glares at Bruce* See, Paul! Ban him!!! PLEASE! ;P
- Anika Malone
Yeah, I've noticed that just about anything I bring in from Reddit will lead to a somewhat more contentious discussion (presumably in part because Reddit headlines are evolved to be sensational).
- Paul Buchheit
I'm looking at the first 13 comments and seeing total TROLL FAIL.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, yeah, I am, but nothing has stood out for me as trollish, either.
- Trish R
Paul, maybe it's cuz you work at FF and folks are scared to be banned? :P
- Curtis Jackson
I think the formula is: (followers + friends + foaf's / controversial likes + comments)*herding behavior = trolls
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Curtis, being blocked by several people isn't too different from being banned, so it doesn't really matter whether the troll victim works at FF or not.
- Bruce Lewis
Typically, you reap what you sow. Since you are above board, kind and helpful, you get that in return. Others who are more bombastic see stronger responses.
- Louis Gray
Louis, you're above board, kind and helpful, but I troll you sometimes.
- Bruce Lewis
Speaking of stupid, I can't think of many situations where politics _are_ discussed politely and intelligently, and that include in-person with family, etc. I think the topic is simply too emotional for most people and the group-affinity parts of the brain completely take over and shut down all logic and empathy.
- Paul Buchheit
(Link removed since EricaJoy has provided a superior search URL immediately below)
- Mike Reynolds
Try this search: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- EricaJoy
Switching into serious mode for a moment, I've been impressed at certain discussions on FF where the topic would normally lead to charged conflict, but a constructive discussion ensued instead.
- Bruce Lewis
Maybe after a certain number of comments on an entry (or if certain words enter into the discussion), we should automatically append ;) onto every comment :)
- Paul Buchheit
Wait, I thought the problem was that you weren't seeing enough troll comments. That feature would do the opposite! What are you thinking?!? :)
- Bruce Lewis
I know you weren't serious, but I'm starting to think you could actually implement something similar.
- Bruce Lewis
It would be a milder form of blocking. If you find someone trollish, this semi-block would automatically add a smiley to any comment they make on your items. That would be hilarious! It would probably be abused a lot when it first came out, but in the long run it might prove useful.
- Bruce Lewis
Yeah, I don't see a lot of trollish behavior, just a lot of lame attempts at bad sarcasm and the odd person who doesn't know how to read.
- Alex Scoble
Bruce, I guess it all comes down to the definition of "troll". There's a difference between playing "devil's advocate" and just being an ass. I don't mind having my brain tweaked with an interesting opinion. Compulsory ;) for Paul.
- Curtis Jackson
Paul: I'd like to keep certain threads of mine from popping back up into everyone's view. In fact, I'd like to have a lot more control over the whole view thing anyway. Tim O'Reilly doesn't want to see comments, for instance. I'd love to give him the view he desires. Other people want strict reverse-chronilogical view. I want that too. As an option. But I think you're onto something when you say that politics rarely brings about constructive conversation.
- Robert Scoble
Paul: I keep telling people that this is like cheering for your sports team. If you hate the Yankees you won't be rational about it. You'll jeer anytime one of their stars comes on the field. Group-affinity parts of the brain take over there too. So, we need to have ways to both identify with groups (like the #tcot hashtag) as well as retard the devisiveness (maybe having a warning on a thread that has too much hateful language).
- Robert Scoble
Paul - Aside from pulling the service Favicons (an offense for which I'll curse you till my dying breath), I have nothing but great things and experiences from you. Most nice people don't get called shameful bacterial pet names. I can call you Yersina if you'd prefer though.
- Matthew DeVries
Mention you're quitting FriendFeed or you love Twitter and you'll see it
- Jesse Stay
Stop being such a nice guy, be more suspicious of others, and drop some flame bait for others to ignite.
- rob friedman
Jesse - Mentioning leaving isn't enough, there's been countless "Sorry FF isn't for me, find me here" posts (Spidra comes to mind as one) that get the "Miss you, hope you come back" and end. It's the ones that are "I'm fucking leaving this shithole of a site and here's why!" then they proceed to name everyone on the FFholic top 100 active users, and leaves a cleveland steamer on their chest, only they forget the saran wrap. Those people get trolled like Montauk.
- Matthew DeVries
Threaded comments would hide some of the more heated comments as well (I mean threaded w/i the comments)
- Jesse Stay
Did he say you can get an STD from Friendfeed?. Everyone quick .... use protection.
- Charlie Anzman
Charlie... are you suggesting we 'wrap the post' before we 'press the post'???
- Johnny Worthington
Jesse, I've yet to see an implementation of hierarchical commenting that I would choose over single level as it succeeds on ff. Of course, I'm open to innovation :)
- Micah Wittman
I'm so with Micah on this. Flat conversations are what make Ff good, because people literally can't get off on tangents. They have to stay on topic or the thread sputters. It's nicer that if people see the tangent, they say "If you want to talk about Crystal Meth lab design here: http://friendfeed.com/dariusm... so we don't derail the thread"
- Matthew DeVries
Yeah, I agree with Matthew, I really like yellowtail (hamachi) nigiri and eat it every chance I get. It's totally delicious.
- Alex Scoble
Paul - you can change your display name to Paul Yersina Buchheit.
- Matthew DeVries
I don't know, but I must be making the same mistake.
- Michael Fidler
Back in the day (don't know if they still do it) Fark and Something Awful would just delete any and all references to each other regardless of context. Like they were trying to keep their populations from knowing the others existed. I wonder why site owners stopped that kind of lock down.
- Matthew DeVries
If you want more troll comments on your threads just say the word. We can make that happen.
- DGentry
I'm always amazed when 9/11 truthers pop up in some random thread. I recommend posting something inflammatory about 9/11 or truthers and maybe you'll see some fireworks.
- Gabe
wake up sheeple!1!!
- Philipp Lenssen
That's because you misunderestimated the very word "troll." It's deployed automatically whenever someone runs out of [no longer even in-]coherent counterarguments, and thus the only course of action open to them is to "go personal." Usually easy to begin with, questioning the grammar etc., later with ex-cathedra pronunciation of one's opponent's "trolldom" As a rule, anyone whose first...
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- ianf ⌘
Screw you Paul Buchheit. That wasn't so hard. *gets ready to get booted of friendfeed*
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Try using #troll in the future for easy to find real-time troll talk :)
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
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How did you get Kevin to agree on tags?
- Shakeel Mahate
Maybe a little too twittery but I like it! An easy way to quickly share searches. I would like to see it somehow encompass multiple word searches though.
- Brandon Titus
Good point. I'll add comments later today.
- Paul Buchheit
awesome!
- Alfredo
what about multiple word queries?
- Frankie Warren
Sneaky!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
See! Paul is _SO GOOD_ he just says... "I'll do it later today". Well done, sir.
- Louis Gray
so can we get a combo on the search. .search only "comments" {y/n}; "tag" (y/n") ; "title" {y/n} ? In that manner we can SearchRT in various methods of text in and byitself.. !
- Peter Dawson
AWESOME!
- iTbay
fine new feature. congrats.
- metageoff
it's getting better and better by the minute. Thanks Paul. Well done
- zsafwan
Excellent feature! But seems like hashtag linkifying works only for FF posts, not imported content... Though maybe it's better this way =)
- Anton
Is there any control / logic / params / api to tweak the sort order for real time results?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Now I'm crying
- Bwana
I noticed that earlier - didn't realize it was new. Awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Hey Paul, Nimaa is right, linkifying for other languages apparently doesn't work: http://friendfeed.com/genieyc...
- Mohomed Abdullahi
Friendfeed does not need that IMO
- Stanislas Jourdan
Somewhat confusing - some # tags go to FF some go to Twitter.
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian: tags that go to Twitter are posted from Twitter
- LouCypher
so will imported tweets containing hashtags link to twitter search or friendfeed search? in the past I think they linked to twitter
- chrisofspades
LouCypher - yes and I block Twitter (but it does still show up in real time searches/filters) -- that combined with the fact that it is not easy at a glance to identify the source of the posts makes it confusing.
- Brian Sullivan
linkifying?
- Charlie Anzman
I thought I was done with hashtags after leaving twitter. Ugh
- Rodfather
Great add on the comments Paul. Native hashtags + Twitter hashtags. Awesome.
- Hutch Carpenter
Sweet.
- Shey
Very nice.
- Micah Wittman
O.K. I'm impressed. So much for the theory that you guys are releasing things slowly. I think you completely destroyed that today. Nice work!
- Michael Fidler
Cool! So: what are the most popular #tags? The most popular #tags recently? Perhaps http://www.ffholic.com/ will get on that...
- Tim Tyler
Shouldn't we be able to tag posts directly - without using a comment to do so? Comment - Like - Share - Hide - Tags? "Tags" should show you existing comment tags - and allow the adding of new ones.
- Tim Tyler
I'm with Tim. Genuine tagging would be a Good Thing.
- Chris Lasher
I'd love 'real' tags, but do I see the utility of leveraging hashtags, especially w/ all the tweets that come into FF. If they linkified twitter hashtags, and then also built their own tags system, it'd a) be more work for little more reward, and b) be confusing for some users, as there would effectively be two tag systems in FF. Lesser evil, and all that. *grin*
- Ken Kennedy
Brilliant! What happens to tags in tweets? Weren't they linked to Twitter searches?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yeah, given that hashtags in tweets link to Twitter Search, hashtags in other types of content should link to FriendFeed search, but WITHOUT the hash sign in the search term. But I agree that "real" FF tags would be even better. Maybe when you type a hashtag, it could get automatically converted into a real tag?
- Grey Drane
Really great improvement guys! It would be i nice feature to see the most popular tags. #improvement
- Jan Friman
Congrats on this awesome new feature Paul but what about #hashtags with hyphens? For example: #real-time only linkifies #real. :(Twitter has the same dilemma)
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
Real-time search. We have it. It's here. - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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Try http://friendfeed.com/search... It's also fun to watch the embedded search on the blog blog post (http://friendfeed.com/search...). You can see people discussing the blog post, from the blog post, in real time!
- Paul Buchheit
cooool
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
coooool
- zsafwan
GREAT !
- Stanislas Jourdan
Eeee. Awesome.
- Mark Trapp
via iPhone
Impressive! Now you can save real time searches as embeddable widgets. That's just awesome! This is a massively POWERFUL feature. Thank you FF team!
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Lol, you flipped the switch before the post came out as far as I can tell. I was searching for it and I couldn't see it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Yowsa. Makes quick easy work out of social media monitoring, don't it?
- Ian Wilker
YAY!!! FriendFeed staff rocks, that's all there is to it =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Congrats Paul to you and your team! Another one bites the dust!
- Jorge "JungleG" Escobar
WAAAAAAAAA.. meta real time search.. love the concept of embed a real-time search !! Way to Team FF -- luv u guys !! :)-
- Peter Dawson
Do you guys sleep? Honestly, love the constant output and attention you guys pay to user feedback. I know this highly requested and probably not easy to implement.
- Frankie Warren
Twitter Killer!
- David Schmidt
Thanks so much Paul & Co. Excellent work!
- Leo Laporte
hey love they way they launched search.. espcially when its close to "Search Marketing Day 2009" !1
- Peter Dawson
Thanks Leo. Jim and Gary did most of the work on this one though.
- Paul Buchheit
Track is back! This is a gamechanger.
- Mike Doeff
via iPhone
Track is back!
- Christian Burns
via iPhone
Excellent news.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
via BuddyFeed
I think I'm going to scream if I hear "track" again - someone please define it for me
- Jesse Stay
Wow, great work!
- Meryn Stol
I stand in awe of your hackfullness.
- Ted Gilchrist
Good work. Much-anticipated.
- Louis Gray
@Jesse: It's a dead twitter command "track keyword" sends you realtime updates whenever the word is used. Think of it like realtime google alerts for friendfeed.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
I'm pretty sure Gillmor et al kept calling it "track" because that's what Twitter called it back when they had it for a week.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
On a related note, live embeddable searches mean that I can hack together my own FF embeds for the pages that don't have them yet, like say "comment:dpritchett" http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter never had this - this isn't "track"
- Jesse Stay
you guys rock.
- Karoli
...wowsers! Very nice!
- JA Castillo (جاسون)
The blogpost said they're working to implement "keyword notifications" Jesse, that will be "track"
- Frankie Warren
Twitter's brought back track, it's just no one cares. You can now have updates by keyword on Twitter pushed to you, via XMPP, just like track used to. Gillmor says that's not track.
- Jesse Stay
That's why I hate the term "track" - no one knows what it is. The way Paul is explaining it, as real-time search, is a much better way of explaining it.
- Jesse Stay
I guess we're still missing the realtime notifications piece that folks want. You can shape the firehose to watch terms in realtime but you can't yet get it pushed outside of FF via email or IM?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, Twitter has that right now, but Gillmor says that's not track
- Jesse Stay
/me prints up a few hundred "That's not track!" t-shirts
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Killer feature. I'm watching news about Honduras scrolling by. Very useful.
- Chris Baskind
Jesse: Oh, i'm with you... Real-Time Search is a better term :)
- Frankie Warren
BTW, integrating this into my blog right now
- Jesse Stay
Me too Jesse. Making a new static page for that comment:dpritchett search I mentioned
- Daniel J. Pritchett
this is definitely cool and all, but what about API? We are falling way behind on feature sets :)
- Tim Hoeck
It's like an alternative to watching TV, in a literary sort of way.
- Ted Gilchrist
awesome!:)
- m.0
kewl!
- phil baumann
Yay! This is the killer feature (once it's in the API, of course ;)
- Brandon Titus
I'd love to see a blog post about how this is implemented. Real-time search has some interesting problems.
- Chris Lamprecht
I take it back - I can't integrate this into my blog until I can filter it to a single list. I really need an embed for "comment:dpritchett list:e20" except lists are still virtual in that no one other than me can see them unless I use the atom export.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Awesomeness! I'm loving this right now.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
Wow you guys rock!
- Alfredo
I am sloooooooooooow. But what/where is the template to make the embeddable widget. please?
- Marg Uerite
You're right Jesse - it's not exactly Track but it's getting a lot closer. The old Twitter Track allowed you to set up multiple search terms (e.g. track iphone) and get those delivered to your IM with zero time lag. At any time you could type "track" to see what you're currently tracking and "untrack" to untrack something - e.g. "untrack iphone". There are some third party tools that...
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- Mike Doeff
Paul, is there a way to change the title of the embed? The long search string looks kinda bad.
- Jesse Stay
Mike, Twitter offers that today. Gillmor says it's not Track.
- Jesse Stay
Marg, after you do a search, click the "Share / embed search" link to get the embed code.
- Dan Hsiao
Jesse, are you sure? Can you provide a URL describing this feature? I think you're referring to Twitter Search (and saved searches) which is totally different.
- Mike Doeff
Mike, it's in beta and available to developers, but it's back, minus SMS support: http://staynalive.com/article...
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, when / where did Gillmor say that isn't track? I'm pretty sure that Steve just wants the old track brought back, with some filtering capabilities added (the old Track didn't filter out blocked accounts).
- Mike Doeff
Yay! Have been eagerly awaiting this. :)
- Rick Turoczy
Mike, he's said in various comments. Looks like Track to me... Heck, it's even called "track".
- Jesse Stay
BTW this is on staynalive.com now (look in the sidebar): http://staynalive.com/
- Jesse Stay
for my italian friends: stica...
- Alberto D'Ottavi
via fftogo
Jesse - you can hide the ugly search bar with a little quick CSS - it's <h1> under an easily identified class.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
via IM
Daniel, good idea - I'd love to change the title more than that though.
- Jesse Stay
just a few minutes work and I have a FriendFeed realtime search embedded in a blog http://www.amsterdam20.nl (web 2.0 event)
- Jeroen De Miranda
My #laterzheenu tags can be of some use nao. Like right nao.
- Mohomed Abdullahi
Yeah
- Brian Sullivan
FF guys: we like your style :) --- way to go!!
- Harscoat
I think I'm going to cry
- Bwana
awesomesauce!
- Simon Wicks
This is a really great innovation, congrats friendfeed team!
- .Garin Kilpatrick.
Thanks, Jim and Gary! Lots of hard work for a very cool result!
- Anne Bouey
HhhhhUuuuuuGggggEeeee !!!
- Harold Cabezas
I want to 'Like' this *twice*! many thanks!
- topo
The first step in a storystreaming platform!
- Kevin Sablan
Whoa. Wow. And Yes! Fantastic work, FF team.
- Micah Wittman
Good stuff although should support negative operators such as I should able to search my name in the all posts NOT coming from me. I've tried "from:-username" but it doesn't seem to work.
- Ferruh Mavituna
OK, you guys are wicked talented! It's kind of scary, but I love it. So what's next? Just kidding:)
- Michael Fidler
Ferruh: you just have it a bit backwards... try -from:username instead :)
- Ross Miller
WOOOOOOOOOOW. Friendfeed is really pushing some cool features out :). Friendfeed is the best :)
- alfred westerveld
How can we embed FriendFeed search?
- Mike Reynolds
Mike - There's a link at the top of the search just beneath the red bar.
- Mitch
A box will pop up, take the HTML code from the bottom of that box.
- Mitch
Thanks Mitch!
- Mike Reynolds
Nice the embedding code can be dynamic.... <iframe src="http://friendfeed.com/search..." frameborder="0" height="600" width="400" style="border:1px solid #aaa"></iframe>
- Mike Reynolds
Thanks @Ross it works fine now, love the RSS output.
- Ferruh Mavituna
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- tabbr
Woo! So: will this cause a FF server meltdown anytime soon?
- Tim Tyler
very good!
- standin
Highly addictive--great stuff! I did notice that if you do a search like [google] you'll see dupe stories streaming by quite a bit (e.g. the TechCrunch story about Google Voice shows up over and over right now). Not sure if it's possible to de-dupe based on destination url a little bit more?
- Matt Cutts
two months after redesign, we have access to real-time search. good news bc my preferred search engine is friendfeed. ;)
- Franc ☺
We are there, in the battle against Twitter
- Michael_techie
Best search engine became better :)
- Chirag Chamoli
I can't say enough how amazing this is. So, I ordered a bottle of real-time translation to go with this magnificent feast of real-time search :D http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Micah Wittman
Just to show what is possible now with this feature, I've built SteroidFeed: Go here to see it as well as download the files: http://friendfeed.com/lph... Latest version is 1.01.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It's amazing!
- Lizunlong
I've been waiting for this since the new UI, excellent, thank you Paul and FF! I'll give this a play later. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Micah, really looking forward to having your scripts work in Chrome. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
This is great. Well done, guys.
- James Myatt
Awesome :D
- Praveen Vasudev
great!!
- Mike Chelen
'Penelope' is a surprisingly cute movie
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Nice movie. Want to watch. Paul, try filmfeed.ru and your posts will look like this http://friendfeed.com/romanzo...
- romanzolotarev
'Stay classy, Fox News guests: "The only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama bin Laden to deploy and detonate a major weapon in the United States." WHAT?! Come again?' - http://origin.reddit.com/r...
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What can you comment to something like that?
- Dan Woods
The reddit comments are kind of amusing: "I'm really really hesitant to blame another person's political views on psychological problems, but that's the only conclusion I can reach with these guys. When you've come to the point where you are actually saying "I want people to die, so that I can be proved right that if we don't do something, people will die" this is now a mental illness....
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- Paul Buchheit
Anytime someone uses the phrase, "Stay classy", I automatically have to like it. It's like in my biology.
- Derrick
Somewhat more seriously, I think there are some people who believe in the necessity of perpetual war, and for those people an attack on the US (such as a city getting nuked) would obviously be a good thing. I remember at the end of the cold war these same people were fretting about the need for a new enemy. Luckily for them, they found/created one.
- Paul Buchheit
Holy crap. That guy's talking out of his ass!
- Joey Gibson
A vulnerable country > the country they want. (That's even if I accepted that the country would be less vulnerable under them, which I don't)
- Matthew DeVries
Wow....I thought the democrats were the ones who want the turrists to win.
- EricaJoy
'9/11 ended up making this country safer then ever. The only way to make it more safe would be to undergo another attack.' That's basically what he's saying, right?
- Kevin Fox
"...an attack on the US (such as a city getting nuked) would obviously be a good thing." Can we pick the city?
- Chris Sparno
Yeah, how are we ever going to get rid of all these pesky freedoms if we don't have a big war? It's like these guys thought 1984 was an instruction manual.
- Paul Buchheit
@Paul, We have always been at war with East Asia. || We have always been at war with Eurasia. (Orwell, 1984)
- Joey Gibson
Ah Fox...they really should drop the "news" from their title. Propaganda might fit better? [And THIS time they really went too far.]
- Abby Martin
wha ...
- Khaled A
I have no words to describe what I think about that, scratching my head WHAT?
- Karen Swim
Good lord. Add Glen Beck to Rush Limbaugh on the list of treasonous talk show hosts. Disgusting.
- Leo Laporte
Being liberal is unpatriotic? Compared to that I'm a freaking nationalist!
- Heather
the scary thing, really, is not that someone would say this in public, or that Glenn Beck found someone to say crazy things on his show, but that the person saying it is *Michael Scheuer,* who was chief of the bin Laden desk at the CIA. he is a best-selling author, and currently a news analyst for CBS News. he's somebody who has the ear of government officials and the media. he is not just some loon Beck picked off the street, and that is cause for concern.
- Karim
My favorite reddit comment: "I was just stunned. I asked, "You hope Americans die by the thousands so that you can prove to me that we need FISA-less searches of everyone???" He answered with a straight face, "Yes". I tried to explain to him how he and Osama bin Laden had reached a point of consensus in wishing the United States harm, but he would have none of it. "It's all for the greater good of America!", was all he said."
- Gabe
one hopes Scheuer will claim he "misspoke" and does not really wish harm. or, it could be that he is Cap'n Ahab and bin Laden is his Great White Whale, and the failed pursuit is driving him crazy. and you thought "war is peace" was satire...
- Karim
I am going to have to add, that while Glenn Beck is a loony, treasonous sellout, Michael Scheuer is most definitely not some off-the-deep-end right wing, Fox shill. That guy is 100% legit and knows what he is talking about. I thhink that clip might be taken slightly out of context, but if Scheuer is concerned, so am I. But I already know too much about the shortcomings of our Federal Government...
- JonathanJoseph
@Kevin. ..9/11, per irrefutable scientific evidence, was an inside job, a controlled demolition. ..is there somebody here who still doesn't see this? ..... its the biggest story of our time .. itl bring very grave consequences for the country ..and yes, another war , attack would keep the bad empire of war within America in power, unchallenged, undiscovered, unremoved, untoppled and uncollapsed - its the old thing, when in trouble, bring on war .............. http://ae911truth.org
- Petr Buben
Its Fox soooo ... no surprises here.
- Brandon Mendelson
The only chance we have as a country is for blowhards to stop starting wars with other countries so that we can pretend that we don't have problems of our own.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Yeah, Kevin, irrefutable scientific evidence!
- Gabe
no ..JUST LOOK how they fell ....are we all idiots? ... 10 floors per second pulverized ....they exploded and pulverized into pyroclastic cloud. http://911Blogger.com - http://911truth.org ....
- Petr Buben
@Jennifer .. As a country, we have thousands of chances, and choices .. all have truth, peace, justice spelled in them ... insohenceforth, the possibilities and the future of America will are to be unlimited .. just like of any other democratic, peaceful country ... now lets face the facts ... and yes, bad empires do fall ..we have seen it before // other question might be, if official media wont touch 911, should techno geek websites do it ??.. who will break it to the open sunshine day light, officially ?
- Petr Buben
9/11 was an inside job? Yea, right, and we all know steel doesn't melt, right ROSIE?? What ba bunch of clowns, ha, ha, ha!
- Don Smith
Stay classy? Right. It's REALLY showing a lot of class when you can't make a point without dropping the "F" word ... really classy, Buchheit!
- Don Smith
That was a quote from Reddit Don.
- Paul Buchheit
Don: Also, see sarcasm.
- Kevin Fox
I didn't know that Fox was now the "F" word.
- Gabe
Sorry Paul, I should have credited your quote to Reddit! I apologize for that.
- Don Smith
Leo, just curious ... why do you think Rush and Glen are "treasonous"? I like Rush, but Glen IS sorta "out there" sometimes. I stopped listening to and watching him quite a while ago. I don't, however, see how either could be considered treasonous. Just sayin' ...
- Don Smith
WTF????
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Don, I don't know if you're trolling... but, if my friends wants me to die so that our enemy cannot kill me, I think my friend clearly betrays me.
- Jérôme Flipo
"They are not saying they want it to happen"? I quote Michael: "the only chance we have as a country right now is for Osama Bin Laden to detonate (...)". I'm not a native English speaker, but come on! Also, can you guys keep the discussion respectful?
- Jérôme Flipo
Seems like Munchausen Syndrome. Sad.
- Rick Cogley
I'm giving this thread the *facepalm* award for attribution errors, conspiracy theories, and trollish commentary. Not to mention the Fox "news" segment that festers beneath :) http://friendfeed.com/ffacepa...
- Richard Walker
I love how you all hate Fox New but never watch it. You are told to hate it so you do, but you will watch the piece of crap network MSNBC and CNN.
- Ryan Ellerbe
Ryan: I love you you purport to know what I watch because you disagree with my views.
- Kevin Fox
Fox News is an oxymoron. That is my story and I am sticking to it!
- Martha
Related: How much of something do you have to watch before you can decide you hate it without being accused of letting other people make up your mind for you?
- Kevin Fox
I thought we all agreed we were going to write it Fox News (R)
- Matthew DeVries
so basically what this guy is wishing for is for 100's even thousands of american to be hurt and wounded just so he can say told you so, wow what an egotistical jerk
- Kim Landwehr
Once again He was saying Osama would be stupid to do it right now. Our elected class is doing a good job destroying the USA and if he attacked us now we would be united as one. We would then stand up to the elected class and tell no more. Again I ask you to all crawl out of your holes and wake up. Its common sense people.
- Ryan Ellerbe
Ryan: Why is Osama our only chance? Why can't the CIA do it like they did on 9/11?
- Gabe
LOL the last time they attacked we galvanized around the idiots and gave them cart blanche, thus if they attacked again, it would solidify us around our leaders again. LOL I love people who observe data and conclude that if the same thing happened again, the exact opposite would happen. LOL LOL LOL LOL Do you forget the Patriot Act? Wireless Wiretapping? It's because we gave a bunch of dipshits a blank check cause we were skeered.
- Matthew DeVries
HAHAHA under your logic, we would have impeached Bush and Cheney right after 9/11
- Matthew DeVries
WHHHAAAAAAAA???!!! That is sooo stoooopid I can't believe we have idiots like this in US ...augh!!
- Susan Beebe
Jérôme: I never said I agreed or disagreed with Scheuer. The only things I've disagreed with are that Beck and Rush are "treasonous" talk show hosts and that 9/11 was an "inside job." The only other point I've even hinted at is that anyone who has to resort to profanity to make a point is just showing their own ignorance and immorality -- and the pattern here is that they all seem to be liberals. If we can't disagree without cursing and calling each other names, we're definitely in a world of hurt, folks!
- Don Smith
So in order to defeat terrorists, one must welcome terrorism??
- Mo Kargas
More like, in order for everyone to like Republicans, one must welcome terrorism.
- Robert Haas
Need to keep the fear machine well oiled.
- Will Higgins™
Yeah we have a lot of idiots. Idiots who voted for Hope and Change from Obama. All we have so far is more and more debt and no change. Well we have change for the worse.
- Ryan Ellerbe
Ryan: What would Change look like to you?
- Gabe
Mainstream media is ALL the same. A bunch of idiots trolling and egging on their competitors. As long as there is government, there will always be a created enemy to allow excessive force. Open your eyes people, there is only one political party in this country......Corporations/Banks.
- Mike VanLare (slayerboy)
+Mike. They're all trolls.
- Will Higgins™
And who knew, all this time the ANTS were taking over the world! Welcome to our new ANT overlords!
- Richard Walker
What I really liked was what came after that line. We're safe from OBL's attacks because he already thinks we're melting down just fine as we are, thank you very much.
- Andrew Skretvedt
""I was just stunned. I asked, "You hope Americans die by the thousands so that you can prove to me that we need FISA-less searches of everyone???" He answered with a straight face, "Yes"" So why are some people still stone deaf to those who point out the clear evidence that Sept. 11th 2001 was a false flag attack?
- Marg Uerite
Then you ask why the rest of the world thinks Americans are stupid. You keep the smart ones quiet and give airtime to idiots. That "person" should be sued for inciting to violence and betrayal to the country.That's what would happen if the guy was a Democrat...
- Alexandre Gamela
via twhirl
Power makes people insane. Losing it does the same.
- Alexandre Gamela
via twhirl
Newsmax, a leading neoconservative propaganda outlet, has been seeding and cultivating the notion for several years now that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda are going to detonate a nuclear weapon on American soil. Think about it. Newsmax has also been in the forefront in exploiting 9/11 to push forward the neoconservative agenda. Two words: watch out.
- Sean McBride
This kind of thing gets me very worried. VERY. What is wrong with people?
- Eric @ CS Techcast
where should we start eric lol
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Scary.
- Mike Reynolds
This is like the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
- Shawn Whitmire
Fox News - We Distort - We Decide!
- ScottBourne
"We Distort. And Deride." "We Lie. You Comply."
- Marg Uerite
We demolish skyscrapers. ..what the heck were we thinking?
- Petr Buben
via IM
Petr: you're saying Fox did 9/11?
- Gabe
no, Im not ...we don't know who did it - The Biggest Story of The Century - .... we don't know who did it yet, but we know for fact that it was an explosives aided controlled demolition
- Petr Buben
Petr, why explosives? I know that some explosives were detonated at/near the base. But I believe the speed of disintegration and the absence of a realistic remnant pile obviously imply something other than just explosives.
- Marg Uerite
Anyone who thinks it was kerosene fuel (jet fuel) from a "commercial plane entered the building" on a top floor, really has to "look closer." As far a Michael Scheur, It's called "revelation of the method" You're being told straight to your face and if you don't get it, you're nothing but complicit. He was "chief of the [']bin Laden['] desk at the CIA he is a best-selling author, and...
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- Marg Uerite
"9/11" = Murderous Hoax, "War of the Worlds" = Hoax, "Project Northwoods" = Leaked Plans for Similar intelligence operation. Why people have no imagination for this? = "Big Lie" cf "Mein Kampf"
- Marg Uerite
@ Marg ..it was a high tech high explosive nanothermite. per conclusive evidence. you can paint this stuff on the walls. it will bring down a building in a nice controlled demolition ... but maybe also something else, some other explosive ... but not nuclear weapon or fission explosion .. there is no evidence of that ... http://ae911truth.org - http://911blogger.com ...... /funny, recently, vice pres Joe Biden was handed papers in Los Angeles with this evidence, and asked about controlled demolition
- Petr Buben
Nutrition 101: The Basics That Will Keep You Healthy - http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2008...
Tyson Key, Kevin Borders, Jessie and 51 other people liked this
"But civilizations have thrived on diets of varying macronutrient proportions throughout history. The Inuit ate a diet of almost no carbs and mostly fat with no ill effects. The Masai drink cow blood and milk and eat meat like it’s going out of style. As the nutritionists gasp, I’ll mention that the Masai achieve prime health too. The diet on the island of Okinawa is heavily weighted towards vegetables and rice with some fish and little meat, high in carbs, low in fat. Again, very good health; Okinawans have excellent longevity. So it’s not so much about the macronutrients, as long as you’re getting enough protein and fat to allow the body to function properly. It’s about the types of food being consumed. Dr. Weston Price noted that traditional civilizations thrived until they were introduced to processed grains and sugars, at which point, health declined markedly. Have you ever known someone that dutifully follows a low-fat diet or low-carb diet by eating every processed product in...
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- Paul Buchheit
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So true. I do prefer fresh food than processed food.
- BeeLing
This source is a very un-nuanced view of nutrition: "Steak - Deliciously real food, straight off the cow." It makes no distinction between grass-fed and grain-fed beef, or addresses the problems involved with feedlots or concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs). It's also important to note that causality cannot be proven with observational (epidemiological data), but requires a...
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- Bill Koslosky
"Okinawans have excellent longevity" and the latest generation is the first to live less than their parents. But it's not just about food. Longevity is the union of food, exercise & human social connections (and probably genetics) ~ http://news.ycombinator.com/item... & http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Peter Renshaw
Interesting information. Would be interested in a good modern review/book on dietary effects over generational time frames (30-40years). It's a challenge to get that information. Maybe a self documenting social crowd sourcing site could accomplish what standard research has not.
- Mark Essel
Stripped fruit trees have unique taste.
- Nikolai
See Dr. Daphne Miller's _The Jungle Effect_ http://drdaphne.com/thejung...
- Ruchira S. Datta
We all know that it's speaking English that kills you: http://phocks.org/stumble...
- Piaw Na
So much for the high-carb food pyramid.
- τorƍue
Spaghetti may not grow on trees, but it sure is tasty. Screw longevity...I don't want to live a couple years longer if it means forgoing delicious processed foods!
- Doug
Doug: what do you mean spaghetti doesn't grow on trees? Here's proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Gabe
Sharing this post in Get Fit room - http://friendfeed.com/fit
- SportyGeek (Tracy)
The Masai walk more distance in a day than an average American walks in a week. Exercise is a big part of health.
- Thaths
Bill, if you insist on causallity and good science, you'll undermine the whole diet industry.
- Robert Hafer
via iPhone
When implementing keyboards shortcuts in JS, include something like "if (e.altKey || e.metaKey || e.ctrlKey) return;" to avoid eating existing browser shortcuts. For example, I can't Cmd-Left to go back from a Picasa page, because Picasa steals the event, forcing me to mouse over to the back button.
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The most annoying one is when a site steals the tab switching shortcut. I'm flying along a bunch of tabs and then it's like I hit a wall. Gmail is a major offender.
- Jared Mehle
I've never run into it with Gmail. Flash seems to steal the kb by default though, so YouTube etc all cause problems if you've given focus the the player.
- Paul Buchheit
FriendFeed steals the Firefox's Quick Find / (slash) too. ;)
- AJ Batac
I've learned to use Cmd-[ because Cmd-Left depends on context: if you're editing a field it acts as "go to beginning of line". Cmd-[ always works.
- Ethan Herdrick
(I've done some remapping so I might have the details of Cmd-Left wrong.)
- Ethan Herdrick
...it's much better than it ever was -- and I'm a fan of you've done with Gmail -- but there's so much JS and AJAX-y shii, (and with HTML5 coming, video and databases, etc.) going on in browsers these days, could we be approaching the limits of what can be done with the humble Web browser?
- .LAG liked that
I hate that ctrl-t in Flash/YouTube doesn't open a new tab.
- Matt Cutts
@Matt Cutts -- I'm right there with you.
- Miss Elle
You lost me at Wh
- Steve C
BTW Paul you have corrupted me — I now use Cmd-J, Cmd-K to switch tabs in Safari, Camino, Firefox, Terminal, and … Emacs. You might tell me that I should've used Cmd-H, Cmd-L, I already use hide and location bar, and I didn't want to change those too.
- Amit Patel
VC Vinod Khosla: Vision is 'bumbling' around - http://vator.tv/news...
Robert Felty, Clare Dibble, Mustafa K. Isik and 12 other people liked this
"In 1986, Khosla was asked about his vision for Sun Microsystems. He responded by suggesting that having vision is as much as about being lucky. "The best thing to do to have vision is to pray to Lady Luck because frankly, you never know vision when you see it. And, I still don't really believe in vision." "I still don’t believe in vision. I believe in bumbling around long enough to not give up on things. Eventually, when success comes your way because you've failed in every possible way, and the only way that’s left is the one successful way. And, always for those of you who are entrepreneurs, it seems to come last. "This bumbling around is to me what vision is about. It’s the best way to be a visionary. You just keep failing enough, and not giving up.""
- Paul Buchheit
via Bookmarklet
It's a short video, but the point is worth remembering. The people on news.yc are missing out (no votes!): http://news.ycombinator.com/item...
- Paul Buchheit
+1. Here a blog post from Marc Andreessen around the 4 types of luck: http://blog.pmarca.com/2007... you have to bumble until you find the market fit
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Ant mega-colony takes over world (and also my back yard and house) - http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth...
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"In Europe, one vast colony of Argentine ants is thought to stretch for 6,000km (3,700 miles) along the Mediterranean coast, while another in the US, known as the 'Californian large', extends over 900km (560 miles) along the coast of California. A third huge colony exists on the west coast of Japan. While ants are usually highly territorial, those living within each super-colony are tolerant of one another, even if they live tens or hundreds of kilometres apart. Each super-colony, however, was thought to be quite distinct. But it now appears that billions of Argentine ants around the world all actually belong to one single global mega-colony."
- Paul Buchheit
via Bookmarklet
Time to refine the definition of 'colony'.
- Kevin Fox
Ants have certainly infested my house. They bite too! I wake up every morning with a bite.
- Ana
Now how can I get myself in charge of that colony... I could rule the world... egggzzzelllentttt
- Thomas Mader
I have them everywhere. They even invade the house and I don't even know what they're going after most of the time. Yesterday they were all over the living room floor. Going for that cereal bit under the sofa? No, they were swarming a piece of junk mail. Sometimes, they just come out via the hot water knob of the tub and just mill about.
- Anika Malone
Scary. I'm glad to be in Canada where the cold weather keeps things like this at bay, for the time being.
- Mitch
@kfury it's a colony all right. Just wait till their galleons come for the loot :) on another topic, I just read that there are, in fact, only about four dandelions in the whole USA - genetically. It's just that every one of them covers multiple states, being represented by millions of separate plants.
- Michael Bravo
hate ants. hate hate hate.
- Jeremy Toeman
Me too! In small, medium, large and extra large. They laugh at the ant traps. They gobble down the poison like it's hot fudge sauce. They crawl across my bed. I am in despair . . .
- Amy
I hate mosquito's, but that's probably because I didn't meet an Argentinian ant yet.
- Ton Zijp
Every time I go near a Google Doc, I edit it by mistake, because the damn thing captures all of my browser keyboard shortcuts and turns them into random edits, which also makes it impossible for me to switch to another tab!
Nicholas James, sameer, Dan Hsiao and 13 other people liked this
And that's why I don't use vi! I'm assuming that you're trying to use hjkl to navigate the document and failing. If not, never mind.
- Gabe
Just like when I hit '/' to search a page on FF, and end up in the search box? Yeah, I know the shortcut capture thing...*grin*.
- Ken Kennedy
No, I'm talking about Cmd-1, Cmd-Left, etc.
- Paul Buchheit
SSB ftw... Fluid.app is my browser of choice for Google Apps
- Bwana
My biggest problem as emacs user is C-w. I regularly close my Google Doc window. Thank god for the autosave.
- Vlado Handziski
Bwana ...I never thought of that, but what a perfect use for Fluid, or Prism if you're on Windows.
- .LAG liked that
How does Cmd-Left turn into an edit?
- Gabe
I'm glad they activated Cmd-1/2/3. It's so easy to add titles and to clear formatting (Cmd-0). Is there any better combo for such actions?
- Jérôme Flipo
The problem in general with browser apps is that sometimes you want it to act like an app (and handle Cmd, Ctrl, Alt keys) and sometimes you want it to act like a browser (and leave those keys to the actual app, which is the browser). Doing this across platforms is even more of a pain.
- Amit Patel
Prediction: MySpace will become retro-cool, and all of the hipsters will switch to it for the ironic value.
Nicholas James, Roland Hörmann, John Mueller and 42 other people liked this
Lol. I predict it will die...
- David Schmidt
Is this inspired by the new FriendFeed themes? :-)
- Jesse Stay
Prediction: Myspace will fall to the demise of Facebook.
- Matt
ha. maybe in 2020.
- MG Siegler
Ooh, time to open an account now and beat the trend. Wait, what?
- Ryan Massie
hmm... it's still active for musician to musician talk. but beyond that? will be a hard road for them.
- nicefishfilms
Now what ever happened to that account I set up...lol
- Don
i like the ring to hipsterspace
- MG Siegler
It's the new bell bottoms!
- Bwana
Myspace will turn into Friendster or whatever that thing is called.
- Ethan
i still like myspace personally, no one is ever on anymore though... maybe if myspace were to open up the feeds a bit they could get more users back... facebook is too boring.
- Wesley Guerrero
Myspace is a psychedelic trip compared to FB, or to anything else for that matter.
- Russellreno
well I don't know about MySpace in particular, but good prediction, things *like that* probably will happen. some old run-down neighborhood infested with rats and junkies gets adopted by hipsters, and next thing you know, there's an Ann Taylor next to the Pottery Barn next to the Starbucks... web gentrification?
- Karim
So MySpace is the new "Look at this f*cking hipster?"
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
via BuddyFeed
MySpace is varied and ethnic- in my opinion vibrant. Just read a paper about the digital class divide. It also contained a study between MySpace and Facebook. The general profile leaving MySpace is white, American, 30's, higher income. The general new user of MySpace is not. You may want to consider what type of person are, before you consider MySpace a ghetto. Just saying...
- E-Advocate Network
Still like myspace. As long as facebook doesn't allow anonymous accounts, I'm not there.
- Ryo
no comment :)
- sean percival
Can you eleborate it. We were harping on to Facebook till just recently. Do you want, Myspace to copy your idea and everyone harping on it?
- Nitin Nanivadekar
MySpace is only really good for keeping track of bands. Most people don't log on it too often so you can't send message rapidly. I remember a while back when it was popular...messages and (pre-facebook-wall) comments flying back and forth
- Rudolf Olah
Some of my posts are popular on Twitter, but it's uncorrelated with popularity here. I think the key is "hipsters"
Nicholas James, Kol Tregaskes, Louis Gray and 9 other people liked this
:) I find a similar thing...but without the, you know, hipster bit...
- WorldofHiglet
you can't go wrong making fun of hipsters. Plus, that tweet was genuinely funny.
- Laura Norvig
I'd like to see what happens when you write about smurfs
- Jini
"In Defense of Food" was a quick and worthwhile read, but given that I've already read that, is the older "The Omnivore's Dilemma" also worth reading? - http://www.amazon.com/Defense...
Ha3rvey, Laura Norvig, Alex Scoble and Frankie Warren liked this
The Omnivore's Dilemma is actually better than In Defense Of Food.
- Deepak Jois
more depressing, less pragmatic, but still interesting. and it covers different information (you learn a lot about corn!)
- Karl Rosaen
My parents recommend Omnivore's Dilemma, and they know a lot about health (among other things).
- Bruce Lewis
OD > In Defense of Food. Interesting that you read them in that order...
- Jennie Lin
Camilla the carnivore http://yfrog.us/5atqrz
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Susan Beebe, Lars Clausen, Tudor Bosman and 2 other people liked this
I tried teaching her to growl while eating, but for some reason that part didn't take.
- Paul Buchheit
Thomas's first black eye. The boy has no fear...
AJ Batac, Robert Felty, Kol Tregaskes and 11 other people liked this
I have several other pictures, but they are all completely blurry because he won't stop squirming.
- Paul Buchheit
oh my, how did that happen?
- imabonehead
The boy's gotta toughen up somehow. ;)
- April Buchheit
He crawled onto his little baby swing and right off the back of it. At first I was afraid that he broke his arm because they way he landed was kind of bad (with his arm behind a metal bar and the rest of his body going forward). Fortunately this appears to be the only damage. I think he must have hit his eye on the plastic animal that was on the floor behind the swing.
- Paul Buchheit
is there a mark on the side of his face also? or is that a shadow?
- bob
That's a shadow on the side. The pics will probably be more dramatic tomorrow :(
- Paul Buchheit
poor guy! good for him exploring the world!
- Rachel Lea Fox
Awww i can't like this in good conscience. Poor baby!
- EricaJoy
Yeah, we know it was really Camilla who did that to him.
- Gabe
Poor Thomas, that looks painful! Luckily no major damage.
- Susan Beebe
via BuddyFeed
Tough little soldier!
- Mo Kargas
That happens when you punch them, I'm telling! ;) poor guy
- xero
"Fear is the mind killer."
- coldbrew
poor thomas. same thing happened to my niece while she was picking something on the floor but didn't see the cabinet corner. :(
- AJ Batac
NJ Girl, 14, Arrested After Posting Nude Pics - http://wcbstv.com/local...
Rob Michael (Atmos Trio), Daniel J. Pritchett, Robert and 18 other people liked this
"A 14-year-old New Jersey girl has been accused of child pornography after posting nearly 30 explicit nude pictures of herself on MySpace.com -- charges that could force her to register as a sex offender if convicted. ... If convicted of the distribution charge, the girl would be forced to register with the state as a sex offender, said state Attorney General Anne Milgram. The sex offender law calls for, among other things, restrictions on how close such felons can come to schools. In northeastern Pennsylvania, a prosecutor recently threatened to file child porn charges against three teenage girls who authorities say took racy cell-phone pictures that ended up on classmates' cell phones."
- Paul Buchheit
via Bookmarklet
Who will protect the children from the crazy police and prosecutors?
- Paul Buchheit
the f? that's a hell lotta sex offenders that i know then
- Mohomed Abdullahi
Just waiting for the day a 3 year old is marked sex offender for running on a beach naked. It's only a matter of time, since the security and media machine want to be able to throw scary statistics around the total number of sex offenders - so you need to get more sex offenders, no matter if their offense was only in their heads or the heads of people around them
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
This is getting out of control. This girl's life is going to be completely ruined. This is a perfect example of why governments fail. The intentions are good, the end results are that the intentions get too widespread and overbearing.
- Mike VanLare (slayerboy)
Absurd.
- Christopher Carr
Won't somebody think of the 14 year old boys! I wish 14 year old girls where posting naked pictures when I was younger.
- Toby Graham
That's crazy!
- Diego Barros
I just saw this plot on a law and order episode recently (plus a murder of course).
- Robert Felty
This is a classic example of people following the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. What the girl did was definitely stupid, but she's no sex offender.
- Danny Shekhtman
Isn't this like holding a kid's face against the burner so she learns how hot it is and doesn't try to touch it again?
- Gabe
different worlds, different rules. Where's a place that actually cares about personal liberties and isn't horrified by nudity. I guess they are trying to protect her from online predators in a way? I don't get it.
- Mark Essel
So, if she' s a sex offender and can't go near schools, how is she going to go to school?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Home school Tina.
- JohnBfromMemphis
Home schooling is a crap shoot at best, and if both parents are working can she enter into a home school arrangement with another family, or would that be prohibited by the "can't go near schools" clause? And I can't help but wondering how long it will be before some fundy parent tries to get their child arrested for masturbating.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Why would she be a "sex offender" ??? that is screwed up! doesn't make any sense.
- Susan Beebe
The difference between the spirit of the law and the letter of the law. These prosecutors should be punished, not the girl.
- Marcel de Jong
This is a perversion of child pornography laws, which are intended to protect children from adults, not the other way around. The danger of child pornography lies with the the abuse and exploitation that happens when adults make these images of kids. The law really needs to be modified to prevent its misuse for punishing girls.
- John
I agree with Marcel that there should be consequences for prosecutors who abuse their authority like this.
- John
A law that was designed to protect children is being used to - dare I say it - abuse a child. Why am I not surprised? The intentions behind the instigation of laws are always the best, but the problem is that those laws are enforced by people who ALSO GET TO CHOOSE WHICH LAWS THEY ENFORCE AND HOW. As far as I'm concerned "failure to observe the rules of common sense" should be a criminal offence amongst those who uphold the law.
- Slippy 2.0
I agree with Mike. Yet another sign that the U.S. is doomed. Too much selfishness and stupidity, not enough common sense.
- Stephen M. Otto
Too many states are drooling for the money they're given for people on the sex offender rolls ..This is the exact reason this is allowed to happen .. anyone that speaks out publically is labelled a sex offender ..see how it's all working out ... I feel for the young lady and her family.
- JohnBfromMemphis
via twhirl
JohnB: What money do states get for sex offenders?
- Gabe
There were hundreds of Iran protesters in Santa Clara last Friday (corner of Stevens Creek and Winchester)
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Kol Tregaskes, Felicia Yue, Rodfather and 3 other people liked this
I believe it was Stevens Creek and Winchester...
- April Buchheit
They were difficult to photograph though, between the sun and the cars, my pocket camera didn't do a great job.
- Paul Buchheit
Oops, fixed April.
- Paul Buchheit
I guess it's safer to protest in Santa Clara than in Iran, but probably a lot less useful too. What could they hope to accomplish by this?
- Gabe
I don't know, I was wondering the same thing. Perhaps they want to show support for the people protesting in Iran?
- Paul Buchheit
Wow. lol.
- Mona Nomura
Some were still there long after dark (9:30). The cops showed up to manage traffic a little. Passers-by were honking in support. More pictures: http://ff.im/4BHH2
- Jared Greeno
I guess fire safety doesn't apply to the police...
Kol Tregaskes, Angus Burton, Felicia Yue and 14 other people liked this
oh that is bad! ... Um, Officer you do know that you parked your vehicle parked *right in front of* a fire hydrant? Officer yawns, and ruplies back,"...so what, I'm gettin' a donut... I'm almost done; won't be there long anyway."
- Susan Beebe
via BuddyFeed
POV: Hot Girl - CollegeHumor video - http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1...
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ZoneDancer, Mike Kogelman, shizhao and 22 other people liked this
It's a rough life.
- Paul Buchheit
via Bookmarklet
"over the pants squeeze job" classic! :)
- Diego Barros
I think they sort of ruined it when they showed her face.
- Ana
TRUE. ALL TRUE.
- Zach Landes
有中文字幕就爽啦
- 佛陀
Robohug
shirli, Tom Parish, matiasjajaja and 45 other people liked this
I think I found my new profile pic
- April Buchheit
too cute!
- BEX Happy Long Weekend
is it good?
- liangcw
"It occurs to me with all this animus existing against Mechas today it isn't just a question of creating a robot that can love. Isn't the real conundrum, can you get a human to love them back?" -- Female Colleague, "A.I."
- Karim
I hope Paul isn't jealous
- Jini
That's pretty much how Paul hugs me, too. :P
- April Buchheit
I remember http://battlestargalactica.me :-)
- Mehmet Ali Osman ELBUZ
that looks....fulfilling.
- j1m
Can you sue a robot for sexual harrassment?
- Gabe
Thanks for sending this in during the party last week! This is my favorite photo from the night.
- Luke Francl
"That's pretty much how Paul hugs me, too." --- That explains everything, that robot is Paul!!!
- τorƍue
If he were happy, balanced, and well-adjusted, would he still be a super-star? Perhaps it was the same demon driving both sides.
Kol Tregaskes, Sean McBride, Shailesh Nalawadi and 24 other people liked this
You're right, I probably wouldn't be.
- Jim Norris
Are you talking about Jim Morrison? Jimi Hendrix? John Belushi? Vincent Van Gogh?
- Gabe
Yes Gabe.
- Paul Buchheit
Doubtful. History gives many that were great but also outside the norm of their time.
- Seek Ground
via email
Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Chet Baker, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin...
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
A hand surgeon once told me there is a fine line between genius and insanity, but maybe there is no line after all.
- Victor Ganata
Per _The Creative Brain_, there does seem to be some correlation between creativity and bipolar disorder. But, contrary to what some might think, depressive periods do *not* tend to be creative--creativity and positive mood go together.
- Ruchira S. Datta
I don't think bipolar is the only factor. There are other things that can make people unbalanced.
- Paul Buchheit
On the other hand, I was just at the Van Gogh museum yesterday and I liked some of the work he did after the onset of his mental illness the best.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Paul, yes, definitely.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Who do you mean? Bernie Madoff, Mark Sanford, or Mahmoud Ahmedinijad?
- Peter Norvig
+1 peternorvig
- Ginger Makela Riker
This is something I've wondered too Paul. It's the extremes that propel.
- Hutch Carpenter
I got the distinct impression this was in reference to Michael Jackson
- Angus Burton
So some say in order to become happy, well balanced and adjusted, he was on so many meds that his heart just gave out.
- Rafat Alvi
The FriendFeed R&D lab
Ethan Herdrick, Dima Kuchin, Nadine Pestourie and 190 other people liked this
This is where we do our UI design.
- Paul Buchheit
Well, that explains the gray background then!
- Akiva Moskovitz
And now the world needs to know who was sat in the empty space in the middle about 10 seconds before the camera came out :-D
- Andy Bold
Each colored group of bricks are in a separate namespace. Don't mix them.
- DGentry
I used to have a giant cardboard box with identical contents. I miss it terribly.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
OK! I think I can finally apply now for R&D. ;-)
- AJ Batac
I think I can see the namespace space, too
- WorldofHiglet
why a Blue Snowball mic?
- Dead Silence
Where are the motors and microcontrollers?
- Gabe
Sans mad scientist! Oh wait, he was taking the picture!
- Rick Cogley
you g33k guyz :)
- Alp
WIN
- Josh Haley
I think you guys need more lego pieces.
- FORA.tv
Oh... don't worry FORA... that's what's in those gray tubs :)
- Ross Miller
Release early, release often :)
- Micah Wittman
You guys got any job openings?? :)
- Roberto Bonini
@Akiva: I'm glad this set of Lego had the grey "floors" and not the green ones!
- Nathalie
OMG MY EYES
- Akiva Moskovitz
I loved LEGO and I am still thinking that it influenced my wish to study natural science, which some others might have thought, too - http://portal.acm.org/citatio...
- joergkurtwegner
That looks remarkably like my kids' playroom when they were small (with the addition of some pink, white and lavender Legos)!
- Anne Bouey
Now that's my kinda lab! Where do I sign up?
- Jeff P. Henderson
OK, I'll start to compose my resume:)))))
- K.D.
I need to learn Python :( I keep meaning to, but work happens.
- Neal Jansons
via IM
Heh, so that's how you built the FriendFeed server farm so quickly? Lego! ;)
- Tyson Key
Watch Facebook will have the same lab in a month.
- Robert Scoble
Nice $50 Walmart chair. I just replaced mine today with a different Walmart junk chair. That one broke. Those plastic armrests are fragile! See how I had fixed it temporarily: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Dusty Wilson
Omg are you guys hiring??? I cook and clean! :)
- Mona Nomura
Building better apps the unconventional way ! ..why now, where is additional keyboard shortcuts ?? under the carpet? .... isn't this overflow ideas cool-off roomlet containment? .... no! it's Google's 1 day - work on whatever project you want ..they got 2 grey bins, for binaries, i guess ... is it public access, though?
- Petr Buben
Hmmok
- Uygun BODUR
No one can afford to lose this job.
- ashish damania
Lego Heaven
- Kevin Hatton
Wanted to make some R&D
- Ozkan Altuner
Blue Snowball mic........someone must podcast? Decent mic, for what it's intended to do.
- Gabe Taviano
Looks a little like my last office .... :)
- Charlie Anzman
This is really cool.
- Bryce the Screencaster
FriendFeed R&D needs more money Twitter R&D has more toys
- Michael Mooney
What makes you think this is the sum of our toys, Michael?
- Ross Miller
Not enough legos.
- Steven Perez
Your arteries on Wonder bread - http://www.physorg.com/news165...
Laura Norvig, tomaitch, Ivan Zuzak and 25 other people liked this
"Enormous peaks indicating arterial stress were found in the high glycemic index groups: the cornflakes and sugar group. "We knew high glycemic foods were bad for the heart. Now we have a mechanism that shows how," says Dr. Shechter. "Foods like cornflakes, white bread, french fries, and sweetened soda all put undue stress on our arteries. We've explained for the first time how high glycemic carbs can affect the progression of heart disease." During the consumption of foods high in sugar, there appears to be a temporary and sudden dysfunction in the endothelial walls of the arteries. Endothelial health can be traced back to almost every disorder and disease in the body. It is "the riskiest of the risk factors," says Dr. Shechter, who practices at the Chaim Sheba Medical Center ― Tel Hashomer Hospital. There he offers a treatment that can show patients ― in real time ― if they have a high risk for heart attacks."
- Paul Buchheit
via Bookmarklet
Pretty technical article... But I think it's one more reason I shouldn't eat the foods I like :-/ stupid sweet tooth.
- Frankie Warren
I've been reading http://www.amazon.com/Good-Ca... -- pretty fascinating stuff.
- Paul Buchheit
Ah, sheesh. I JUST switched back from diet to sugary colas. Fine, it's hopeless. I'm going to Five Guys. Seriously not going to live on a diet of spinach and water. [edit: but I'm still going to tell the Mr. what his beloved french fries may be doing to him]
- MiniMage (FakeLifePerson)
I'm reading The Omnivore's Dilemma now. Great book. Paul, check it out if you haven't yet.
- Darren Lewis
Darren, I recently read "In defense of food". It was good, but more philosophical compared with Taubes.
- Paul Buchheit
I live on lots of spinach and water.... NO white sugar, flour... bad! :P
- Susan Beebe
via BuddyFeed
I have always liked spinach, even as a child. I love my sweets, though.
- MiniMage (FakeLifePerson)
@paul, "The Omnivore's Dilemma" is also pretty philosophical, but gets deep into the science also. I want to become a grass farmer now.
- Darren Lewis
10 & 12 year old siblings won't stop fighting, mom pulls over and makes them walk the 3 miles home. Am I the only who doesn't think this makes her a bad mom? - http://origin.reddit.com/r...
Mike Fruchter, Jorge Camargo, A.T. and 32 other people liked this
no!! Did the same thing
- Mel Buckpitt
You are not
- alieb
first comment on the reddit page says it best...
- Jay Martinez
My parents used to do that all the time - back then I thought it made them bad parents. Now I think they were smart.
- Jesse Stay
3 miles is a long time to have to walk next to the person you're arguing with and not say anything for a pre-teen.
- rob friedman
My wife's recipe for situations like this is to pull over and refuse to drive until the kids calm down.
- Vlado Handziski
Absolutely not! Kudos to her for disciplining her kids. 3 miles may be a bit much, but really, 3 miles isn't that far if you live in suburbia - that could be the distance from the entrance of a subdivision to your front door! I don't think enough people discipline their kids these days, everyone ends up being a slave to their child - and afraid to tell them how it's gonna be. It's like everyone forgot what parenting is...
- Jim Rubenstein
Nope. Unless it was in the snow up hill both ways, I don't want to hear any complaining!
- Alex Scrivener
3 miles? I'm surprised she's not in jail right now!
- Gabe
Nope, I know i'd rather walk 3 miles home and give a reasoned apology to my Mum than get hit for a punishment and have both of us end up feeling worse.
- Charlotte {charley} M
in my mind (and without reading the article) it really depends where she made them walk.
- Dead Silence
in general, this seems like a bad idea. leaving your kids alone on the street when you can no longer deal w/ them is a bad idea. the 'punishment' of walking in reaction to arguing is wide of the mark, too. from my POV, this is an example of bad parenting.
- MikeAmundsen
35 years ago many people would've thought nothing of it. this is not the mid-1970s, tho.
- Dead Silence
I think it depends on where they are. A suburban neighborhood would likely be safe but if this was in the middle-of-nowhere or in a really unsafe city/area, then it could be a bad idea.
- Rochelle
I think it is fine; once, during August camp two of the players on my football team got into a fight. Our coach made them spend the rest of the practice running laps on the track holding hands
- RAPatton
What really happened is the 12-year-old caught up with the mom and got a ride home. Her sister found somebody to give her a ride home. Neither of the girls had to walk very far.
- Gabe
What Rochelle said. Depends where.
- AJ Batac
So, at 10 and 12 years old, the mom hasn't gotten to the point with her kids that they can't behave? Or at least that when she tells them something (like to stop and not touch each other), they listen? Taken in broader context ... I'm not impressed with this in the slightest. It's sort of like having someone ask you again and again and again and again for something and you simply ignore them, but then you finally blow up that last time and scream at them.
- AJ Kohn
I have a twin. Therefore it happened to me many times. And I'm fine :)
- Jérôme Flipo
first comment on the reddit page definitely gets it right. We ARE a nation of pansies. The first time we allowed a lawsuit over hot coffee split because the woman held it between her legs, we became screwed.
- Mike VanLare (slayerboy)
Possibly some necessary context: White Plains is probably equivalent to most cities outside of New York. It's not like leaving them in Anytown, USA. It also appears that the kids split up, and one didn't know the way back.
- Mark Trapp
It's a facts and circumstances inquiry. If the area was safe, it was a perfectly reasonable solution for a 10 and 12 year old. The mother who turned her in (for doing nothing wrong) is a harpie, and the judge who issued the protective order is an asshat.
- O.Shane
To Mike VanLare: in the McDonald's suit, the plaintiff actually only asked for approximately $2000 to settle her medical bills the first time around. McD's refused. And the coffee was far hotter than it should have been (even to McD's specifications). No one reasonably expects coffee to cause 3rd degree burns.
- O.Shane
Works better if you get out of the car and walk home and leave them there. :D
- EARL (Born in the USA)
via fftogo
My grandfather did this to my uncle about 50 years ago...
- Zach Landes
Depends where they were, but I don't disagree with making them walk to cool down. I'd want to follow that up with a sit-down talk though.
- Rick Cogley
GOOD for her! Smart Mom... kids need to learn that behavior is not acceptable. Disclaimer: Don't try this in East LA, ok... pick your discipline strategy wisely ;)
- Susan Beebe
And similarly, http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news... :-( Showing his disagreement on this kind of cases, Emilio Calatayud, a judge working with youngsters, says that the Spanish law observes rights for minors, but they seem to forget that the same law also estipulates DUTIES (i.e. respect for parents) for the same minors. No adults, even judges, seem to remember this. :-(
- Maria Jose
I love it when people bring up the McDonalds coffee thing: http://www.vanfirm.com/mcdonal....
- invariant
Nope - that's fair...
- Kevin Nordmand
3 miles does seem like a bit much to me, but then I guess the kids should have thought of that.
- Jim:Rockin the Helvetica
If I were going to make the kids walk 3 miles home, They'd walk it, but I'd stay within sight, mostly to make sure they didn't pull any shenanigans like calling for a ride.Sure it'd be a pain in my butt, but it would prove the point.
- Heather Solos
Mom should have Boondocks-slapped the two.
- Joel Robert Perez
Make them walk the 3 miles, no problem, but she should have tailed them to make sure they got home safely IMO.
- Grant Bierman
invariant - thanks for the link on the McDonald's case. nice summary
- Violet Bliss Dietz
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