LOL Spidra. No I didn't. I have too many friends who work there and I don't want to start a fight. They know I don't love G+. There is no strong community there so I'm rarely there.
- Rachel Lea Fox
Aw, dammit. G+ could use some taking down a peg or two. :-p
- Spidra Webster
Just saying it one more time before Valentines Day is over! :)
- Rachel Lea Fox
"I was in clinic when I heard the overhead STAT page to the emergency room. As I sprinted down the stairs, I ran through the possible scenarios. I wasn’t on call, so the day to day gynecologic emergencies weren’t my purview. I hadn’t operated on anyone in the past few weeks, so unlikely to be one of my own patients with a complication. Logically there was only one conclusion."
- Tudor Bosman
from Bookmarklet
"A vascular system so traumatized by sheer blood loss that it had run haywire and lost the ability to clot. Disseminated intravascular coagulation. This is how many young women die when an abortion goes wrong."
- Tudor Bosman
I'll editorialize: If we outlaw legal abortions, women will die. It's simple.
- Tudor Bosman
Yeah, sorry I couldn't respond to that one before. :-)
- Kevin Fox
well i be darned .... we now can rejoice, since fast paced additions to already good product are surely fastly coming about off the feedpipe ... it'l be a hectic season of finest upgrades ... I'm sure they'l start with keyboard shortcutze. ... I mean Google Reader rules on that. Intelligent to the extreme. ..Google.com, on the other hand - are we sleeping? .. not even "/" ??.. and that...
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- pb:
Congrats Ben! Totally agree with Jason. Our latest project wouldn't have become feasible without Ben -- I'm just so glad we managed to get a fraction of his time before he left! :)
- Simon
Congratulations, Ben! You're joining an awesome team.
- Anne Bouey
Congrats, you are now a "big company"! ;))))
- K.D.
That's not my picture! They got the picture wrong! In fact, I didn't get the letter of hire either. :( Oh, Hi there, Ben...if that's your real name. ;)
- Josh Haley
Good luck Ben! With you our preferred service will go more interesting
- Roberto
from fftogo
I think there were a bunch of spam comments made to some 2009-era posts by FF employees. For some reason even after the spam is nuked, the post stays bumped.
- Stephen Mack
Yes, I blocked a spammer that was bumping old posts about FF themes and what not.
- Zulema ⋅ spicy cocoa tart
Well, let's see this as an opportunity to raise a virtual glass to Ben and FriendFeed-that-was!
- Kevin Fox
It probably had something to do with the Tornado 2.2 release. I noticed Ben was the one who posted about the release on HN earlier. Edit: Or it could have just been a spammer. *shrugs*
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I don't think it had anything to do with the tornado release - a spammer bumped a bunch of Bret's old posts today.
- Ben Darnell
My father never knew his father. He was an only child, raised by his mother. He never knew why his father either left or was kicked out -- his mother would never tell him. In his late '50s, due to a random web page I wrote about my family, my father was discovered by his half-sister.
It turns out my grandfather had started a new family, even given his new first-born son the same name as my father. My father learned this from his newly found half-sister. He also found out that his father had passed away 10 years before.
- Stephen Mack
All his life, my father loved Jewish culture, had Jewish friends, read Jewish humor books (mostly Leo Rosten).
- Stephen Mack
My father had absolutely zero idea until he was 59 that his father was Jewish.
- Stephen Mack
His mother was Catholic. She never talked about anything Jewish at all. He found it on his own.
- Stephen Mack
I don't know much about anything, but to me there's something to the idea that a Jewish identity is a mix of culture and upbringing and also in the blood.
- Stephen Mack
"We are Alex Carobus and Rob Shillingsburg, founders of Wild Shadow Studios. We met ten years ago when we both worked at Google as software engineers. We’d both wanted to do games since we were kids, and after leaving Google we decided to go for it."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
The radical skeptical position is that any knowledge is impossible: You're deluded about your certainty, so that certainty doesn't necessarily have anything to do with reality.
"If you look at four-year-olds, they are constantly asking questions and wondering how things work," Gregerson observed generally. "But by the time they are six and a half years old they stop asking questions because they quickly learn that teachers value the right answers more than provocative questions." It's a haunting finding that raises...
...serious concern about our education system. Specifically, what is the purpose of education? Is it to convey knowledge, as the current system is weighted, or it to be inspired and nurture an ability to constantly learn? — Little Bets (Peter Sims)
- Dan Hsiao
Fascinating. Do you have a cite? I'd like to read more
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Niether, it is to build conformists and consumers and docile asembly line workers
- WarLord
It's in a book, "Little Bets: How Breakthrough Ideas Emerge From Small Discoveries" (http://www.amazon.com/Little-...). Highly recommend it so far for any entrepreneurs or people who need to solve creative/idea challenges.
- Dan Hsiao
I sure hope I can keep sending my kids to Montessori. It's a much less passive learning system.
- Bruce Lewis
My friend is a Montessori teacher and from what she has described, I sure wish my parents had sent me to Montessori.
- Spidra Webster
The main purpose of a formal education is to teach you how to sit down, shut up, and do what you are told. Those that learn this lesson well will have a job where they get to sit down, shut up, and do what they are told. Those that don't, will have jobs where they get to stand up and talk. (would you like fries with that?)
- April
I think school is an opportunity to observe the machine and learn its values and weaknesses up close. It's everything you need to learn about how organizations work and how you can co-exist with one and still do what you want. And they give that education away free!
- Your Neighbor Steve
Maybe they stop asking questions because most of they've already learned most of the answers.
- Gabe
Gabe, Rob and I were just talking about how Spencer no longer is interested in the drawers in our kitchen. Meg is just mobile enough that she can play with the pots and pans, check out the tupperware, etc. Spencer will do it a little to play with her, but generally doesn't do it himself anymore. We've concluded that he knows what is in the drawers now and would prefer to play with his...
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- Clare Dibble
Lawson, I love your optimistic slant. But sometimes it's impossible to co-exist with the system and still do what you want. That's a (hard) lesson you can learn in public school also.
- Laura Norvig
Laura, you are right--perhaps it helps you calibrate your tolerance of and resistance to the system.
- Your Neighbor Steve
Laughter is like composing Haiku or taking pictures. When you think of a scene in front of you in order to write a poem or think about how to compose a shot, you are deeply engaged with where you are at. You are seeing things beyond the surface, finding relationships, comparing, contrasting, creating meaning. Laughter is like that between people.
Gardening has the same effect for deepening my awareness with the seasons. I never paid close attention to the weather before. Hot cold etc sure, but when you worry about growing things you start paying a lot more intimate attention to frost wind sun seasons how things root and grow. Composting similarily links eating to growing to how things work together. Understanding is so relational. Those relations need to be established for wisdom to evolve
- Todd Hoff
from iPhone
Another magical lens is a mathematician looking for symmetry in the world. Once you start looking for symmetry it's everywhere and deeply connects form across all things.
- Todd Hoff
I talked with a woman today who collects sea glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...) by the sea. I was captivated as she explained how searching for glinty bits of glass in the surf transformed her and her families experience of the beach. She loves walking the beach looking for glass and collecting it. Her friend makes art work out of it, but she just puts it in a jar she bought...
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- Todd Hoff
A man I talked with told me how he like making up stories of the people he sees. He would look closely at a person I try to see if they were sad, happy, angry, impatient, blank, or whatever and then make up a story of why they might be feeling that way. It requires a lot of emotional intelligence and imagination to carry this out.
- Todd Hoff
Numeracy. By that I mean seeing things as described by numbers. It's a very different way of seeing the world. My first exposure to this way of relating to the world were stories about John von Neumann. It's certainly not how I see the world or anyone I knew at the time. The story I remember most is him looking at bicycle wheel and characterizing by numbers. He immediately signed...
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- Todd Hoff
Competition. This one is from Adam Savage. He sees deadlines and competition as a way to engage at a deeper level with his work. It's the pressure that creates a flow where he's solving problems and paying the most attention to what he's doing.
- Todd Hoff
Entrepreneur. There's a type of person that sees every situation as a new business that could be created. Viewing the world this way can be exciting. It makes you inquisitive, sensitive to relationships, and fundamentally optimistic. The downside is the potential to see everything as a means instead of end.
- Todd Hoff
Wine Tasting. It's especially fun in a group to go to a winery, look at the vines, hear the wine makers story, and try and find different flavors in the wine that backup what you've just experienced. A wine club deepens the experience a bit more. Buying futures, tasting the wine in the barrel and different points, then on release, then each year after deepens the experience even more. Food tasting in general would be similar I think.
- Todd Hoff
Wish lists. Lisa Bettany on Leo's show was rhapsodising about the process of picking her ultimate camera rig. It obviously gave her a lot of pleasure to think about all the different options, roll that about in her mind, imagine what it would be like, and come up with a final list. We something similar on the Internet with question like What is your favorite X? These are often surprisingly spirited and introspective discussions. Maybe related to window shopping.
- Todd Hoff
Trip joke. This is from a sailor who says on every trip to sea there develops a trip joke. It gets hammered into the deck and gets funnier as the days pass by. The funny thing, beside the joke, is the joke doesn't make any sense to the people who weren't there. It can't be explained. You had to be there in the experience. I think shared experiences are like that. People share something that can't be explained yet it is as real as rain.
- Todd Hoff
Naming. This from A Very Small Farm by William Winchester. In his book he is very precise with names. He doesn't just say there was a hawk sitting on a tree. He tells you exactly what kind of hawk, some characteristics of those hawks, and the quality of his interaction with them. He tells you precisely what kind of chicken, cow, or plant he is talking about. This seems to really deepen...
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- Todd Hoff
Breeding. Also from A Very Small Farm but also from people I know who breed dogs. In Williams case it delighted in producing new breeds of seeds that improved on what went before and fit is little ecosystem better. Dog breeders are often crazy intense about producing certain qualities and their dogs and spend infinite amounts of time evaluating breeding lines, looking at dogs,...
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- Todd Hoff
Picking seeds in winter for next summer's garden. People deeply enjoy this. Planning, browsing through catalogues, imagining how the plants will grow, what they'll look like, how they will taste.
- Todd Hoff
"When you watch your kid doing something you taught him, that's just not a feeling you get from purchasing a new iPad. When you sit in structure you built or use a product you built you'll know the feeling. It's hard to explain but in the end, it's worth it."
- Todd Hoff
Historical context & history. Knowing the history of something makes it mean more than it ever has before. It gives it layers of meaning and nuance that go way beyond a simple definition. Understanding the history of a word like brazen, for example, makes it so much more interesting. I image a definition of god as a being for whom all histories are known, so everything has ultimate meaning.
- Todd Hoff
Deep dive. I was listening to these guys who are really into chillies. They grow all sorts of varieties. They had opinions on all sorts of obscure aspects of chili lore. Thy delighted in talking about how to grow them, get the seeds, cook them, dry them, preserve them, how long different kinds took took to germinate, how some tasted better dried and smoked. And on and on. It was obvious about how knowing everything about chillies gave them a great deal of pleasure.
- Todd Hoff
Teasing. Playful teasing between willing participants carves out a special even sacred space, walled off from the mundane world.
- Todd Hoff
Parody. In an interview with one of the homer simpsons writers he said they were always looking around for things to parody on the show. I imagine that must give you an interesting relationship with everything around you!
- Todd Hoff
writing - "well, it was fun, though I think it would have been less fun if I hadn't been writing about it." -- richard todd
- Todd Hoff
Walk slowly around your neighborhood and back alleys looking for where food grows in public spaces. Most people walk quickly where they need to go totally ignoring the area around their own home. This is the intriguing idea of edible maps discussed in London’s Potential for Urban Agriculture – Interview with Mikey Tomkins - http://thesociocapitalist.com/2537.... More at http://www.mikeytomkins.co.uk/
- Todd Hoff
Esoterica. There are esoteric views for almost everything, gnosticism, kabbalah, hermeticism, alchemy, where people try to find the deeper meaning behind the surface in a way that is deeply personal. Moses just didn't get the 10 commandments, for example, he also received esoteric knowledge that is passed down orally for those who are prepared and worthy to receive it. Is this true? Who...
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- Todd Hoff
vacation. Being on vacation changes even your perception of things you see everyday.
- Todd Hoff
magic. When are trying to find the trick behind a magic trick you are viewing a scene in a completely different way than normal life. Ironically it's this attentional focus that allows us to be tricked.
- Todd Hoff
Naming things. Recognizing plant names. I suck at this. But the guys at rootsimple.com talked about walking around the neighborhood and everything is just a sea of green. Once you start learning the names of things then you start seeing familiar things all around you and it deepens your relationship. Maybe you've walked with people who know the name of everything and enjoy looking at leaves and figuring out what kind of tree or plant it is. Same with bird watching. And human watching while shopping.
- Todd Hoff
Shared experience. Experience something with other people dramatically changes what you are experiencing.
- Todd Hoff
gamification. Adding an extra layer of points, leveling up, challenges, groups tasks, etc to everything we do has the potential to charge and enrich otherwise mundane life. Or it can trivialize it even further.
- Todd Hoff
Attraction. "Crush: a heighten awareness of were he at the gym. 'ma idiot. Everytime he walks by, I smile like an idiot." http://friendfeed.com/vivianv...
- Todd Hoff
Acquisition. Viewing something with an eye towards purchasing it is a totally different experience from a casual interaction. All those little details that didn't matter before are now near deal breakers and indignities.
- Todd Hoff
Form. A poetry form like the villanelle, sonnet, haiku is restrictive, but by making you search for the right sound and and the right meaning to complete the form, a special vibrant place of possibilities is create that would not exist without the requirement of form.
- Todd Hoff
Oculus. An oculus defines a sacred space between this world and the world of spirit. It's a portal between the worlds. When you see one your mind is transported to other worlds outside the typical.
- Todd Hoff
Secrets. People who share a secret have an extra layer of meaning in the air. Everything is tinged with extra drama unavailable to those not participating in the secret
- Todd Hoff
For later: sex, festival, dream, sabotage, spying, altered states, competition, play
- Todd Hoff
Memory. I forget why. Oh, because everything becomes faceted with memory. Everyone can look at exactly the same scene and have a completely different experience because each person has a different set of memories. We don't live in the same world at all when you consider the power of memory. Memory is a tyrant, a box, a task master, a prison, a heaven, a torturer, a courtesan.
- Todd Hoff
Hemingway on Memory: "There is never any ending to Paris and the memory of each person who has lived in it differs from that of any other." (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news...)
- Todd Hoff
sympathy. Yeats wrote about how the shared experience of sympathy bound together he and his lady love. Shared experiences and sentiments roughen usually hard, glassy, repulsive surfaces so that a spiritual glue can be applied, making unlike things as one.
- Todd Hoff
Style. Style creates a sort of sacred space where they stylish person separates themselves out from the unstylish. Tattoos, military garb, athletic uniforms, branded tshirts, religious garb, musical style, dance style, all serve the purpose of separation and enchantment.
- Todd Hoff
Game player type: explorer, socializer, killer, achiever. Each player type creates a different type of game space. Most people in the world the world are not out to achieve anything. They would like to earn achievements, but don’t care much to achieve.
- Todd Hoff
Echoes. Related to memories and trip jokes. But echoes are the piling up waves offset in time. So it's like rhyme in a poem, the poet setting up the rhyme for you to experience later. Repetition in music and stories. Old pictures. Snatches of memories of what has been seen, heard, experienced. All those in an echo are in a different place.
- Todd Hoff
Aftershock. A combination of memory and echo. When an after shock occurs, both actual and metaphorical, there's a space of simultaneity created where the fear of the past event rushes back to the present and infects the future. Each aftershock thereafter participates in the effect of all the previous aftershocks so all the pain a dread piles up like a compression wave. A truly powerful effect.
- Todd Hoff
Provenance. This one is inspired by Paul Bloom and How Pleasure Works. He talks a lot about essentialism. If the Mona Lisa were duplicated exactly we would still like the original better. Our lucky penny is identical to any other penny but any other penny won't do. A sweater touched by JFK is more valuable than a sweater owned by JFK but that was dry cleaned. My carrot that I grow...
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- Todd Hoff
Manipulation. From the Huntress...Paul McClure walked me through how the pro's get the emotion in their shots. They take five or six bracketed frames at different exposures of the same shot and then overlap them in a photoshop type program.
- Todd Hoff
Competition. Listening to athletes talk about that experience of being in the moment of a fierce competition struck me immediately as a powerful separate space completely separate from everyday experience.
- Todd Hoff
Filters. You know when on TV they light up a building with infrared and all of sudden you can see these little glowing lights that are people? In the forest a heavy dew is like that for spider webs. Spider webs are nearly invisible. Look at a patch of forest and there's nothing. Then have a heavy morning dew, it lights up that patch of forest and spider webs are everywhere....
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- Todd Hoff
Time Capsules. We've made a couple time capsules on our property. They only contain pictures of the house and the area, but I can imagine someone discovering them one day, opening, and reliving a bit of our past, just as I'm imagining a bit of their future.
- Todd Hoff
Congratulations to all the former FriendFeed staff on the Facebook IPO! I'd sure like to know what the effective valuation of FriendFeed turns out to be post IPO. That is, the collective value of all the Facebook stock held by former FriendFeed employees. - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
It'd also be interesting to do the math and figure out how many FriendFeeders are still at Facebook...
- Ken Sheppardson
I did a caculation a last year at about $422.5 million at that point.[1] Basedon the S-1, 10 FF employees, and the most recent sale of 11,052,955[2] * $50[3] = $552.6Million [1]http://ff.im/Anvuu [2]http://ff.im/QobEt [3] A number saw this morning about a post S-1 sale of Class B stock.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
So I wouldn't be surprised if it was around 20-25x post-IPO. Of the 10 Friendfeeders, I assume are Bret, Paul, Sanjeev, Jim, Ana, Kevin, Tudor, and Casey were in that group. There are a few more people, Gary, Ben Golub, Dan, and Ben Darnell(hired just prior to the acquisition so I'm unsure if he would have been included) that I also know worked at FF. Bret and Ben Golub I know are at FB. Paul, Kevin, and Gary I know are not.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
You can now get a daily or weekly email digest for anybody's feed on FriendFeed. You'll get a daily or weekly email with the most popular posts from that person's feed. To get the email, click the "Email/IM" link at the top of anyone's feed, and select the "Best of day" or "Best of week" email option.
Thanks to Kevin for doing a great design for what turned out to be a more complex set of UI options than we had originally anticipated, and thanks to Tudor for implementing the email backend.
- Bret Taylor
I now get the FriendFeed Feedback posts as a Best of Day email so it doesn't fill up my feed, but I don't miss feedback. I also set up a "Best of Day" email for my "Technology people" friend list so I get a pretty good overview of tech news every day via email.
- Bret Taylor
This is a really cool idea Bret, I wish you can make that an RSS feed option as well. I'd be much more likely to read summaries in RSS than in email.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Casey: Thanks for the tip. What's the 7 before the "?" mean in the URL? The number of likes or replies needed to be included?
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
this is killer, the random influx of email during the day was kinda getting fail-ish. I love the daily digest.
- Drew Lucas
Very cool! Any way to get archives of previous months? (especially helpful for those of us who leave the internet for weeks at a time...)
- Mitchell Tsai
Just curious - at what time of the day will we get these emails ? Midnight US-Time, or will it respect our timezones ?
- Ahsan Ali
Ahsan: it is somewhat random right now when the emails are sent, but we built in the backend capability to control what time they are sent, and we plan on exposing that control to users in the future. Right now, it is kind of random - sorry!
- Bret Taylor
But what exactly is "Best"? Is it anything that has a certain number of likes/comments?
- Laura Norvig
@Bret LOL THAT WAS MY PROJECT! I will release it tomorrow. But you've also did it and killed my friendfeed application **sigh** But mine has multi-reporting weekly-daily-monthly at the same time and adjustable entry count!
- Alp
@Bret please consolidate me or I won't code new apps with you api! :-)
- Alp
Alp: we were not trying to withhold data. Later today the documentation will be updated to reflect the ability to obtain "Best of" for users. The feed id will be USERNAME/summary/N (similar to "Best of" for lists)
- Benjamin Golub
Hi Ben, that is pretty funny, I tried that URL earlier today to see if it has been secretly released :)
- Paul Kinlan
Bret: While Twitter struggle to keep their fail whale under control, you guys are developing stuff like this. Amazing - Thanks!
- Jim Connolly
awesome feature, this will be highly useful for my corporate group ideas / content sharing; projects, etc.... THANK YOU :)
- Susan Beebe
Great work. I especially like that it works on lists too.
- Meryn Stol
my inbox might say different, but I like that :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Wow, this is really neat! And it links into the idea I expressed earlier, re: reducing signup friction / enabling limited guest privileges. Imagine if I could embed one of my FF rooms on my personal web site, and enable people to subscribe to that feed by e-mail with just a couple of clicks... rather than saying "you can get e-mail notifications but you have to sign up for Friendfeed first." "sign up" -- though admirably lightweight on FF -- is still a huge barrier.
- Adam Lasnik
is there a love button cause I dont like this option I LOVE this option..great work guys
- (jeff)isageek
Three options I would like (1) Can I select "top 100" instead of "top 30"? (2) Could I select both "best of day" and "best of week"? (3) How about older timeperiods? I'd love to get an e-mail with stuff from last week or Mar 2009? Start & end dates? Anything to help me read FriendFeed off-line would be great since I spend long periods off-line at festivals (especially during summer time) or overseas. - Awesome job guys!
- Mitchell Tsai
So this works on groups too, cool! But we still cannot see Best of for groups on the site on friends lists. :-( I have several friends lists that include just groups and when I select to view the best of the page it's empty (even though if I got to the individual best of for those groups there are entries there).
- Kol Tregaskes
does anyone know of a web service that can do this? (I'm thinking weekly email updates of my favorite feeds/people) I don't think there's anything like friendfeed ..
- Friendfeed's Francisco
Stephen, very happy to see new features like this, but I think the "death" part is the major users reducing their activity. I'd love to see some support from Facebook in promoting FriendFeed more to encourage those users to go back. Or maybe they don't want to? Regardless, bonus for me! Thanks Benjamin - you're awesome!
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, fair enough but major users always did come and go. Some of the departees who left said they were doing so because there was no new development. Clearly not all development is halted. Last week Paul hinted that FF may receive a major new feature, and characterized his participation as "20% time" -- I'll take that.
- Stephen Mack
I backed down off the all caps. The group "best of" is really useful, love it.
- Stephen Mack
Stephen, I agree - I'd just like some confirmation that Facebook cares about all this so I can know whether to focus my efforts on Facebook or FriendFeed or both.
- Jesse Stay
I noticed the best of on the iPhone the other day, wrote it out on a cake and then ated it.
- Josh Haley
Jesse, I think you should focus where your users are focused. What do SocialToo users want? But if they want Facebook focus, you should still keep an eye on FriendFeed, since the future Facebook will look a lot more like FriendFeed.
- Bruce Lewis
Paul Buchheit said the FB acquisition was attractive because of shared vision/direction. I would be surprised if a lot of that vision wasn't already embodied in this product right here.
- Bruce Lewis
not enough, best of day should be like a stream that can be traced back
- ffcode
Ross and Dan made this video to illustrate the advanced technology we use behind the scenes at FriendFeed. (Ross and Dan, you are amazing - I can't believe how awesome this thing turned out)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
How very creative. This is very fluid and cool.
- Louis Gray
OK, not exactly what I was expecting, but very cool.
- Kevin Arth
Anyone have the video somewhere other than Youtube? it's banned here in Turkey and I can't wait until we get home (next month) to watch it!!
- Chris Myles
Bret, this video should be titled: A Love Song for FriendFeed ! Great vid (and music) !
- Ahsan Ali
This is superb. I just showed it to my 5 year old son who enjoys Lego and has already taken some great photos, including one or two of his toys. So now he has the seed of the idea that, in time, he could take multiple stills and put them together to make moving pictures. Thank you very much for posting it and giving me and him that opportunity. Maybe, he might use FriendFeed one day too!
- John W Lewis
I think they need to make a full stop-motion version of the Matrix in legos. Now THAT would be awesome. I wonder what bullet-time looks like in LEGO?
- Bret Taylor
i'd pay to see the stop animation lego matrix, but not the sequels
- patrick
"Equipment Generously Provided By Casey Muller" - hahaha!! THIS IS AWESOMESAUCE!!! I love the creative energy and vibe in this video... LOTS of work went into that one! Thanks guys!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Genius, how much time did that all take?
- Wayne Hornsey
Chris Myles: if you want ot - DM me an address and I'll mail you a copy.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
"As a devoted FriendFeed user, I have tried to convince all of my friends and family to join the site, but a handful of them never quite got their accounts set up properly. With our new Recommend friends feature, I can fix their FriendFeed experience by recommending subscriptions to them." Try it out at http://friendfeed.com/friends...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
What am I supposed to get when I click the 'recommend friends' link on someone's pop-up? Currently, the popup just goes away and I don't get directed anywhere else.
- FFing Enigma
Fred: yah, unfortunately, you can only recommend people who you are subscribed you and who are also subscribed back to you.
- Bret Taylor
Mark, I didn't submit a bug report since what is supposed to happen wasn't actually spelled out on the blog post or here; this might be the intended functionality... I hope not, but it's possible.
- FFing Enigma
Tina: it is supposed to pop up a dialog. Sorry for the trouble - we will look into it.
- Bret Taylor
At first I did not understand this, but now that I am checking it out, it is brilliant and addresses much of what we have complained about. NOW what will we complain about?
- Liza + = ?
Just to confirm Bret, the first image in the blog post is what the pop up is supposed to look like, right? Because that's nothing like what the ff.com/recommend page looks like....
- FFing Enigma
I notice that new subscriptions are automatically added to one's home feed. I consider that kind of a bug.
- Meryn Stol
Tina: yes, that is correct. The http://friendfeed.com/friends... page is just a list of people that we think could use some friend recommendations since they have few subscriptions. If you click on any of the "Recommend" links on that page, you will see the same, standard "Recommend friends" dialog.
- Bret Taylor
Where would we find recommendations that others suggest to us?
- Fred Yankowski
@Bret, who receive the recommandation see also who is the recommender?
- Roberto
Fred: You will receive an email as well as a notification on the top of your feed.
- Ross Miller
Roberto: yes, they see who recommended
- Bret Taylor
Bret, if I recommend friends to people who haven't signed in for a long time, will they get email? A lot of my bored friends are not active FF users I think. (quite logical)
- Meryn Stol
Not getting the pop-over when I click 'recommend' on the friendfeed.com/friends/recommend page either... FFox 3.0.12 if it's relevant.
- FFing Enigma
and can I see who has accepted my recommendation?
- Roberto
Roberto: You won't be notified if they accept/deny as the recommender.
- Ross Miller
Ross: Ah, it just appeared on my feed. Cool. (And thanks Meryn)
- Fred Yankowski
Meryn: yes, they will get an email with your recommendations
- Bret Taylor
from email
Bret, I accidently just received an email with previous recommendations. I had already viewed them through the web-interface. But indeed, it's there. Email looks good too, as I expected of course. :)
- Meryn Stol
hey Robert Scoble....I have a trade proposal....you send my name to all your friends...i send your name to all of my friends for the rest of my life....
- Bob DeMarco
I would like that deal, too, Scoble. I like this a lot.
- Ben Hanten
Bob: I charge $1 per friend. :-) just kidding, but the UI makes it so hard to send you to more than a few people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Bret: You guys rock! This is so much better than FollowFriday, which I recommended just a while back. Now, I'm waiting for some recommendation emails! :)
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
If there’s something about friends and family not having their account set up properly, I’d prefer a way to recommend them the streams they forgot to add. For example, I could tell them “You forgot to add your Digg stream and your fourth and eight blog. Here’s the link.” Then he could just click the recommendation and had it set up easily.
- Natsuki Seika
As I have lots of subscriptions the pop-up window is *really* slow and always has been since the new UI (same thing for amending friends lists). :-( I like the feature though, so I could make a new friends list of my most recommended users and use that each time for each user?
- Kol Tregaskes
"Today we are launching version 2 of the FriendFeed API for beta testing. We focused on making the API simpler to use, and we added number of compelling new features." Documentation: http://friendfeed.com/api...
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
nice, good to see OAuth support, this will enable a larger 3rd party ecosphere around FriendFeed, I hope
- Jeroen De Miranda
After going through the documentation and playing around with some feeds, I love the fact that you can now see the subscriber lists of people who have their feeds set to private as long as you are subscribed to them and authenticate (mimicking the main site functionality). One thing that's absent is a discussion of Direct Messages. Do they show up in feeds if you authenticate? How do we find just direct messages?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: direct messages are accessed using the feed ID "filter/direct". Read more about feed IDs at http://friendfeed.com/api.... Also direct messages appear in the "home" feed.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: ahhh, I see it now. I missed it when skimming that list over. Thanks!
- Mark Trapp
Can you post the wget version of the command line?
- Gabe
Gabe: wget --user=bgolub --password=passwd --post-file=MyPhoto.jpg http://friendfeed-api.com/v2... should work. In theory. Edit: nope. I'm not sure it's possible to do with wget.
- Mark Trapp
Gabe: wget doesn't support multipart forms as a design decision. If you post a file, FriendFeed returns a 404, and if you post data, the query is too long for wget to handle.
- Mark Trapp
Woowoo, bgolub's password is “passwd” ;-)
- Amit Patel
Amit: I wonder how many people tested that :)
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks to bgolub posting his password, I now have all of FriendFeed's secret documents about notorious users, useless metrics, Justin Timberlake's promoting FF on Oprah's show, hiring Colbert as a spokesperson, Ev Williams being just a “distraction”. TechCrunch is going to love this! ;)
- Amit Patel
Yes big big thanks to the whole team for all their hard work!!
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
from iPhone
If you use the FriendFeed Facebook application make sure you've configured it properly. We are switching to a new method of publishing in the not too distant future. If you see this message at http://apps.facebook.com/friendf... just click on the link to provide the proper permissions. (via http://friendfeed.com/bgolub...)
A little late on the info as I deleted this link last week at I was told I was pushing all of my FF to FB people were not happy.
- Ed Mason
why do you not post the link comments from friendfeed to the wall? just the links loses 80% of the value.
- Gregor J. Rothfuss
I'm tired the FriendFeed Facebook app. keeps asking me to fix "the problem" so it can post to my wall. I don't want it to post to my wall! Contacts on Facebook and FriendFeed are different types for me. On Facebook it's about being friends in real life, on FriendFeed it is about interests. At least that is how I use FF and FB. My Facebook friends would probably feel I was spamming uninteresting stuff if my FF posts where copied to FB (well, at least if I used FF so intensive as I want to:-))...
- Stig Nygaard
Please let us select what to publish on FB from FF? I'd rather have tweets not appear on FB, particularly as I post from Ping.fm to FB and Twitter.
- Kol Tregaskes
New publishing method? I hope nothing will change for those FF users who don't use Facebook. (am I alone here?)
- Olivia Lovag
from twhirl
I agree with Gregor ... By not having the comment sent with the link, it's just plain and boring and I'd rather just post directly to Facebook. Unfortunately, however, this would negate the very useful benefit of using the "Share on FriendFeed" bookmarklet.
- Dewade Fowler
I don't mind it publishing to my wall, but I don't want it to be my status update. It worked fine before y'all fixed it! (Go ahead. Roll your eyes.) ;)
- Shawn Zehnder Rossi
I get that cannot publish message all the time, because I specifically took away its permissions to publish to my wall. If the FF app gave me some sort of control over what it put on my wall, then I'd give it permissions to do so. As it stands, if everything I posted to FF made it to my FB wall, I'd be defriended by 90% of my friends rather quickly.
- Otto
Yay for new publishing methods! stream.publish FTW!
- Jesse Stay
I don't want to publish my friendfeed updates to facebook, they're too many. I blocked it and i'm always receiving error messages on facebook.
- Oscar
On the same environment, I saw that lite.facebook.com is fast as hell! With proxies, my comments gets directly inputted while FriendFeed takes a couple of seconds, one step at a time. And the message, as Oscar said, is always present if you decide to stop FriendFeed from posting to said service when you have the application on FB. It (script) thinks it wasn't decided, as if it was the...
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- Zu from AOD
Mine failed to post the most recent entry to my wall for unknown reasons. (I have it configured to use privatebrlewis@friendfeed rather than my regular brlewis ff account.)
- Bruce Lewis
I've uninstalled the FriendFeed application and now I cannot re-add it. I see the friendfeed app for a split second and then it reports an error.
- Erik Jacobs
Hacım, the search function is totally down, any news on that?
- mcd