From Six Revisions: "One of the great things about Drupal is its huge community of developers. Drupal.org hosts many, many modules to extend and enhance your website or application. Most people know about popular modules such as CCK, Views2, Panels, and XML Sitemap. But there are some really great modules that fly under the radar as well."
- Mark Trapp
from Bookmarklet
Views Group By and Job Queue look pretty handy
- Mike Chelen
Evernote, the company that makes one of my favorite applications, has raised an additional $2 million in its second round of funding from DoCoMo Capital. The round, which includes investment from Troika Dialog of Russia, now stands at $6.5 million and will be used for global expansion. I love this application because it allows me [...]
Evernote, the company that makes one of my favorite applications, has raised an additional $2 million in its second round of funding from DoCoMo Capital. The round, which includes investment from Troika Dialog of Russia, now stands at $6.5 million and will be used for global expansion. I love this application because it allows me [...]
I am a huge fan and keep putting more stuff into Evernote. I am starting to wonder if I need my conventional hierarchical folders on my drive.
- Paul Jacobson
"Google Chrome 4 has been released in the buildbot directory and is available for download for Windows, Linux and Max OS. After installing Google Chrome 4.0 from Buildbot’s snapshots, I checked Chromium’s about screen. Build 23181 is tagged as 4.0.202.0. No significant changes have been noticed except the ‘Get Themes’ Option, which is now available under Options -> Personal Stuff. Google Chrome is considered as one of the fastest browser and is gaining the market share quickly. Technical Program Manager Anthony Laforge says- “We’ve officially bumped Chromium to 4.0.x to reflect our code freeze point for 3.0. There is still a bit of work that needs to be done for 3.0 in terms of stability and fixes, and to that end we will be pulling changes into the 195 branch (what will become the stable release). Keep your eyes out for future updates on the beta channel.”"
- Dan Smith
from Bookmarklet
Yeah, it seems speedy. I guess they will officially push it to the dev channel soon.
- Dan Smith
from IM
Dev channel for Mac Chrome (proper, not chromium) is 3.0.198.1 - And also, how does one get the dev channel changer to work in the Win7RC. Mine always says "NO UPDATE CHANNEL - you are not using GoogleUpdate etc etc) Off to look into the buildbot.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
from PeopleBrowsr
No script support that I can see, pass. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
It's blazin. I've moved to Chrome for personal browsing (I can live without Flash)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan, Mona was saying that youtube vids were working for her in Chrome/Mac. I don't know how she did it though.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
OMFG. I just installed this from the buildbot on the mac. It SMOKES. HUGE improvement over Chrome 3.0.198.1. I'm as impressed with the improvement over Chrome3 as I was with the first chrome install on my windows machine (comparing to Firefox3)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
has anyone tried anything higher than this one 4.0.202.0 (23181)?
- metalerik
I'm trying out 23573, working nicely and very fast!
- Ivan Zuzak
ok, i'll try 23577 from 14:30 today. Ivan, do you see any differences?
- metalerik
differences? it seems a lot faster than the old dev build of Chrome. no quirks or instabilities so far.
- Ivan Zuzak
Rob - did you figure out how to make Chromium autoupdate?
- Ivan Zuzak
Bookmark sync, Get Themes button and import from Google Toolbar is all I see.
- Hugh Isaacs II
The bookmark sync thing is not working for me on Chromium (works on Chrome). Anyone managed to get it working on Chromium?
- Ivan Zuzak
Ivan, same here. I don't see any option to sync .. I've started chromium with the --enable-sync flag
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I've got the option (PC version), just added "-enable-sync" to the shortcut. But I'm not using Chromium unless someone knows how to turn on scripts and extensions or knows where they sit on our local computers?
- Kol Tregaskes
if you copy-pasted it from a blog Ahsan, you need to remove the space between the two hyphens. I did that and it works for me now -->- http://bit.ly/7Erc7
- vijay
I typed it out :) Still no luck. I'm running: "Chromium 4.0.202.0 (23528)"
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
from IM
I'm running regular chrome (4.0.201.1) so it's probably an issue with the particular build you're running. Next build will set things right.
- vijay
What is the difference between Google Chrome and Chromium ? I just installed this Chromium 23181 and it didn't erase the Chrome 3 that I had installed. Now I can run both : the "About" screens are differents (one says Chromium, the other says Google Chrome), but both versions are now 4.0.202.0. I don't understand shit captain.
- fwed
Chromium 4 will not auto update AFAIK. I'm running the 4.0.202.0 (202.0) build on the Mac. I haven't looked for a new one yet.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Fwed: Not sure why the two names, but the main difference I've seen so far is javascript speed. Chromium4 is smoking fast. This build is a little crashy on my Mac. Not sure what's causing it, but I'm getting a fair amount of "aw snap" errors. I'm running PeopleBrowsr in it (which is all js) and it runs fine. If I view mostly plain html pages it seems to crash on me.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
i think 3 must be stable for themes and addons now. this can increase the user count. and sony deal is also here
- Ahmet Soyata
Isn't it a lovely, seamless experience?! I am a newbie myself, but already need to control my desire to post everything I like. It's just so darn *smooth* :-)
- Ilana Gurman
I really do not see Posterous as a substitute for Friendfeed users. FF works in both ways (aggregating from other services and publishing to other services). Posterous, on the other hand, only works publishing (not aggregating), if I understood it correctly.
- Caio Cesar
Caio: It is most certainly not a substitute - it's more of a seamless, personal blog with better autoshare options. That's how I see it.
- Ilana Gurman
from email
Posterous is fun. I'm using it with the bookmarklet to post in my Wordpress blog from time to time. Works well. :)
- Claude LaFrenière
I love the seamless handling of music files. Makes sharing all the cool new Texas Music I run into with family back home in Indiana a breeze. I'm a big fan of Posterous! !
- j a c k Williams
Ilana: As I commented, I do not see it as a substitute. But the way people are talking about it (as an alternative to Friendfeed) is really strange.
- Caio Cesar
Caio: Well, people are strange ;-) I think posterous and FF are complementary. Folks are just excited about it's potential, so they may make it seem like posterous has the capacity to make everything before it totally obsolete (like most new, shiny web things)
- Ilana Gurman
from email
FriendFeed rocks, Posterous rocks, but FriendFeed != Posterous. I'm at http://scherbi.posterous.com/, and I've just subscribed to yours, Robert. Have fun with it!
- Bill Scherer
How timely. Just this morning I was evaluating using Posterous for use as a casual blog (in the lifestream mode of Steve Rubel) and comparing it to the Wordpress.com hosted solution. I like just about everything about Posterous. Some customization would be nice, but I understand they are working on that and it's a trade-off with the simplicity they now offer.
- Scott Magoon
Posterous is really easy to use, specially when uploading video from cell phones... Webwise, they need to make their bookmarklet more user friendly, particularly when choosing which posterous blog to use (you have several, don't you? I do) (Friendfeed has solved this really well).
- Carlos Granier-Phelps
You should put it on a subdomain of scobleizer.com
- LogEx
http://www.google.com/reader... I'm glad you asked this right now. I just realized that several people are following me and I didn't even know it. I hope it hasn't been this way for long!
- Michael Fidler
Just noticed that Reader now allows grouping of people you follow! Wondering: is Reader going to become a competitor (instead of complement) to FriendFeed?
- Chris Rogers
@rogersdc / Chris, Google Reader is obviously been trying to become more social, but I'd really like to see FF come out with a bookmarklet that makes sub'ing RSS feeds to FF easier/faster. Right now it's a manual process involving either a new Group/Room or Imaginary Friend. Should be 2 clicks tops.. Also see: http://friendfeed.com/alexsch...
- Alex Schleber
Here is mine : http://www.google.fr/reader.... I share (mainly on French sites and blogs) about libraries, literature and arts, human and social sciences, photography :-)
- Nadine Pestourie
LOL here we go again :o) http://www.google.com/reader... I share a lot of blogs and funny stuff that I read, it's neat how I can share and it gets posted all over by friendfeed.
- David Gross
http://www.google.com/reader... - I share items about productivity, gaming, movies, and misc. stuff from the Google "cool" via Recommendations feed. Thanks Kol for starting this thread because I've been trying to cut down on the number of feeds I subscribe to and instead just follow interesting people.
- Dusty Edenfield
Svartling: good point about adding people to groups. I noticed I couldn't comment on items that were shared by some users.
- Dusty Edenfield
I've (we) written a lot of more good tips on how to use Google Reader in Google Reader comments. It's too bad we don't have permalinks in Greader so we can share our notes and comments. Otherwise I could have posted a link here. Here are some on friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/svartli...
- Svartling
The conversation is really blowing up (in a good way) on Reader. The most important reminder currently is to set up groups and allow commenting. That is NOT on by default!
- Vince DeGeorge
Thank you all. I think I have subscribed you all now (except those feed in languages I don't understand) Here is mine again: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Svartling
I've started to follow a few of the people here but there's quite a few, so will take me a while :) - My currently fairly bare feed is: http://www.google.com/reader...
- Roy Herrod
There are a few entries here you might like to read to help you. This one: http://ff.im/6CkQj explains about adding people to groups to allow them to comment and why some don't stay in groups. In this one: http://ff.im/6F9pQ I suggest a way to track a large number of shared items using PostRank. This: http://ff.im/6Ci0P and this: http://ff.im/6AM35 has a few tips on using GReader as a lifestreaming service. And this: http://ff.im/6EMT1 gives a few examples of GReader bundles.
- Kol Tregaskes
Those of you above whom I already follow on FF/Twitter/etc., I've subscribed to your feeds. As for the rest of you: if you follow me on GReader, I'll follow you back.
- Dennis Jernberg
I'm sharing some pages now, including a few of my past blog entries.
- Dennis Jernberg
Because I have issues with data duplication, I have merged this list with the google reader shares room feeds. You can view the Google spreadsheet at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...
- Rob Diana
There are a bunch of shared feeds that I could not resolve the Google username for because they did not have a named profile set up.
- Rob Diana
tristanhambling, your link didn't work. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
It would be really handy to have all these shared feeds as an opml file. Has anyone added everyone? Care to export an opml of the shared feeds?
- Paul Jacobson
I'm http://www.google.com/reader... Not really comfortable with the custom URL though since it can only be your gmail username. Makes it really easy for spamspiders I think.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
Tobias, possibly but not had any problems myself though Gmail has the best spam filters around so I probably not noticed. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
http://www.google.com/reader... mostly webdev, photography news, music, world news which i get interested. plus half of them may be article in Japanese. sorry. :-p
- browneyes
http://www.google.com/reader... - OK I'm in. Late as always. Will post my thoughts, feedback and pleading requests for help over in Google Reader so please follow me over there. Eat your own dog food and all that.
- Andy C
MF/Kol = I live in Kingston on Thames. It's OK apart from the traffic (continually gridlocked) and the shops (girls just lurve them). Handy for getting into London both airports and out to the Thames Valley for work type things. Richmond Park and the river in walking distance is great too.
- Andy C
Andy, Richmond Park and the others around there are the appeal really. Good place to go photographing and cycling while being very close to London I think.
- Kol Tregaskes
Teddington (across the river from Kingston Upon Thames, is where I think I'd like to live. Just 'cos it's cheaper than everywhere else around it. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol many years ago, we made the mistake of asking an estate agent in Surbiton whether it was any cheaper than Kingston. She replied 'No - of course not. We are on the fast line to Waterloo' and looked at us as if we were dog excrement.
- Andy C
I've checked rental prices in the area several times over the last 2 years and Teddington is definitely cheaper. I'm not buying, no way I can afford that. ;-) All a pip-dream anyway, need a steady job and I've not had that for a while. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
anyone use google reader on windows mobile professional? I cant seem to get it to work and when I try to go to the mobile site it takes me to the regular site.
- David Gross
Nope, sorry can't help you there, David.
- Kol Tregaskes
Jenna is doing an amazing job here. Will she be the new Matt Cutts?
- Jérôme Flipo
I think she will be the next Jenna Bilotta. She has recently become more visible here, which is greatly appreciated, but I believe her role is much different than that of Matt's.
- Louis Gray
I feel like by using feedly I am missing the conversations. Am I wrong?
- Amani
Amani, if you don't see comments, yes you are missing the conversations. Feedly does have a great number of benefits though. You just have to decide what is important to you.
- Louis Gray
Amani: you are right: we only partially support comments: you can view and participate in comments when you open a article which includes comments but we do not currently offer the comments view which let's you know which comments have been updated, etc... Personally, I think that Friendfeed (and in some way twitter and facebook) offer a better social model for Google Reader this is why...
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- Edwin Khodabakchian
There are now 43 comments on this article from a share I made in Google Reader. :)
- Louis Gray
I am probably missing something pretty obvious about making my shared items more accessible but I am going to ask anyway. Louis, you said you reorganisd your contacts and made sure each group could access your shared items. Was that just a process of allocating contacts to specific groups and enabling sharing access? Did you then go through your lists and manually locate their shared feeds and follow them or can that be automated once your contacts are organised?
- Paul Jacobson
What I've done, Paul, is added every single contact into a group called "Friends" and enabled Friends to see the items. Originally, I was not assigning people to groups at all, so they could see the shares, but not comment. That was my mistake. I had to go to "Sharing Settings", then People I follow and add everybody to the folder.
- Louis Gray
Ah, right! Thanks for the explanation. I just created a group for "Reader friends" and pretty much added the people I follow and the people who are following me to that group. I love FriendFeed and at the same time I am pretty excited about what is going on in Google Reader.
- Paul Jacobson
*Falls to the ground in the pouring rain, looks up to the heavens and yells* DAMN YOU LOUIS GRAY... DAMN YOU TO HELL... How do you always beat me... WHY LORD, WHY... *breaks down, sobbing like a tiny, tiny girlie-man*
I want to be my usual positive self and commend you for trying, but, really, seriously, dude, spare yourself the anguish. Take on lesser men. It'll be good for the ego in the long run.
- pea
If you *had* to use Google Reader instead of FriendFeed what would you change about Google Reader? And what are the pros and cons of GReader as it stands now?
For sure, Google Reader has likes and comments, you can share (reshare) whatever you see in your feeds to your followers and there are groups (well can you view by group though?) but there are no DMs and I'm finding the Comment View very chaotic and annoying, for example, I have to expand the post every time (would prefer at least a bigger preview of the post). What the comments system needs, for me, is AJ's very cool commenting highlighting that is on Cleaner FriendFeed. That helps my FF experience hugely. There is no duplicate detector either and lifestreaming is perhaps not the best. What do you think? #alternativetoFF
- Kol Tregaskes
I'd agree with all of those; they also need to clean up the management of your friends / contacts / groups / etc. The way that stuff interacts with GMail Contacts is still rather chaotic and confusing.
- Tristan Seligmann
Personally I'd add GTalk/Chat support
- S.D.Allen
from IM
S.D. built in Gtalk support would be useful or simply made easy to 'DM' followerrs but perhaps this should be toggleable for each user.
- Kol Tregaskes
A cleaner social interface, so I can manage my contacts, etc. as Tristan said.
- phil baumann
The People You Follow view doesn't have to be the exact same as the Subscriptions view. If that interface could be tweaked to be a bit more socially-conducive, that may help.
- phil baumann
I would like to see my friend's friends.
- Damond Nollan
Agreed. Comment view is a mess. If they could get that cleaned up it would be a nice replacement. gTalk integration would be very cool. I have been adding more and more people to my Google Contacts thanks to Google Voice so it makes a lot of sense to have that contact list be my primary list for friends. That makes GR a particularly interesting FF replacement to me.
- Sean Brady
better comments and grouping of friends...need a lot of work
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Dobromir, what is the issue with groups? I don't use but curious.
- Damond Nollan
I do agree the comments could be better. I notice that in some cases, they are above the story and in others they are below. I wonder if Google is playing with comments now.
- Damond Nollan
Google's in bed with the CIA collecting your personal data to eventually use against you.
- sofarsoShawn
I think that post is farrrrrrrr behind the ball with feedly already doing as much, however I see Greader becoming much more like friendfeed with its new social capabilities
- sofarsoShawn
Agree, it's definitely looking more like FF.
- phil baumann
@damond there are nonexistent :-) [friends grouping I mean]
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
GReader needs a My discussions that only focuses on articles I've Starred, Shared, Liked or Emailed. If someone shares an article I've already read, I don't not want it to resurface. I still say Filtering is needed as well. I may want to auto-hide certain keywords. In Peoples Shared items, I may want to filter a certain RSS feed that they like but has nothing to do with me. Basically they need a way to cut some of the noise down.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@Dobromir You can group friends in the contact manager, and decide which groups can comment on yr shared items (odd functionality that I don't see a use for). But yr right, no way right now to group the list of "People you follow"
- Chuck Falzone
Import feeds to shared items (e.g. my own twitter feed, my own delicious bookmarks, etc.); add GReader shared item feeds as "people you follow" instead of regular subscription; overhaul public shared items page - allow folks to comment on items from right there, provide a blurb and a link instead of entire shared item; a tool to find contacts from FF/FB/Twitter who are sharing and...
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- Chuck Falzone
I dont think I COULD use any one service as a replacement for friendfeed, so the only thing google reader could do for me there would be to BECOME friendfeed. Then someone else would have to be Google Reader because, just like with facebook - I use it and friendfeed in different ways already
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
Does commenting put the article back into the unread portion of the feed? I feel like the comments get lost. You need visit comment vie to see if an article received additional comments. This makes it difficult to have a conversation about the article
- Fraser Thompson
I may have missed it above but there is duplicate detection, you will see when multiple friends share the same feed item. I agree with the others on the Comment UI (hard to read, can't tell what you've already read, not sure it's scalable with separate threads on the same item, etc), and Contact management.
- LogEx
I agree with Kol on GReader. Their is potential there, however after having the FF experience it falls far short of what I've grown to expect and want when sharing and commenting on things.
- Bluesun 2600
Damond, you need to use groups if you want your followers to comment on your shares. If there are not in any group they cannot comment.
- Kol Tregaskes
LE,, does the dup detector work in the RSS feeds? And from one folder to another?
- Kol Tregaskes
I notice the dupe detection mainly when I'm viewing All Items, or the aggregate People You Follow.
- LogEx
I think that greader needs groups like here at FF. Some way for articles to share comments with those not being followed by yourself already. Making discovery easier, and discussions more dynamic.
- Bluesun 2600
Groups are there but you cannot view by group yeah. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Can you filter on GReader like we can with FF's saved searches?
- Kol Tregaskes
How about a vanity search on GReader comments?
- Kol Tregaskes
I'm reasonably optimistic... the speed of recent changes indicates to me that the @googlereader team recognizes the opportunity created by FriendFeed's uncertain future and is geared up to make improvements. I don't think it would be a FF on its own, but integrated better with some other Google services it could become quite powerful.
- LogEx
Are there any timestamps on comments?
- Kol Tregaskes
I really wish I didn't need to expand the article in Comments View to show the share/like line. Pointless.
- Kol Tregaskes
One thing I like about the Comment view is that, unlike FriendFeed, is shows more comments before and after the expand link. I wish FF would show at least 2 comments at the bottom of threads. 3 ideally.
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes GReader needs a "My Discussions" page. And real-time Comments view.
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol, you should do a radio show or something and explain all of this... ;-)
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Google Reader is dreadfully slow for mr because I have 1,000+ friends.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
1. As all you guys said, the comment system is too bad: hard to read, hard to update, limited to only your friends. 2.The contents you read are based on random shared items by people you follow rather than on a theme (like ff groups do). This would make me overloaded by irrelevant information. 3. google reader is way far from real-time, e. g. for a subscription of a twitter RSS feed, the lag is significantly noticeable and timestamps in greader are wrong.
- yezi
from fftogo
They are two totally different things. I don't see how one could replace the other
- Chris Johnston
the fact that what you read is in a frame. Unlike with Friendfeed when one scrolls down the header remains {Gmail, Agenda, ...} which, for me on the netbook or even the 15" screen laptop I use leaves even less room for the news themselves.
- lelapin
open, open, open.. currently you have to be in reader to access comments, likes. etc you ONLY get your friends comments, comments don't appear in your shared feed, there is no API, and you can't embed your content (posts, groups or user summary) back on your blog/site to get a single source for comments etc.. oh yeah and the search sucks (compared to friendfeed), you can't search comments. They seem more like a quick "hack-on" instead of an integrated solution!!
- Chris Myles
We need permalinks for our notes, comments and shared items. That's about it :)
- Svartling
svartling.. sorry but I have to strongly disagree!! Yes it *looks* like they have the same functionality.. but it's the subtle differences and lack of flexibility/api that kill it for me!! Maybe if you combined reader with GFC (or Wave) and search you might start. For example.. I'm on a site and I want to see if there is already any activity (comments etc) that I can join in on.. with...
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- Chris Myles
Yes I miss the embed features too. They are really cool. The other things you are talking about I had never used.
- Svartling
Not only are they cool, they are VERY powerful!! I protyped a more flexible Google Friend Connect (GFC) clone in a half a day using post embeds (via the API) and groups.
- Chris Myles
I was thinking the same thing. Count how many times you said "Cool" Robert ;)
- Andru Edwards
This acquisition is most likely going to suck for users, but congrats to the FF team. Once Google announced Wave, selling to Facebook was probably the only remaining exit strategy worth the money.
- Chip Ramsey
I don't know if i'm excited by the possiblities of this move, or frightened by what this could mean.
- John Czwartacki
I hope they don't spoil it for us. I just want to keep coming to Friendfeed.com
- Mark
If they had no plans of shutting down FriendFeed and rolling features into Facebook they would have said so right away to avoid speculation and to reassure FF users. I am trying not to be suspicious, but I am.
- Inside Alaska
Andru: it was about 100 degrees outside where I was doing the interview. I was trying to think cool and keep my cool. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe now we'll be able to integrate Facebook feed with FF & twitter
- Justin Long
Faceborg...Googlebook...time to move back to StumbleUpon? Guess we should have seen this coming when FriendFeed got integrated into FeedBurner.
- Internet Strategist
This interview is pretty funny... the person interviewing sounds like he just wants to ask questions for the sake of asking questions...;-) ... thanks for the insightful interview but..
- Sherif Mansour
In the interview, it was said that FriendFeed was not in immediate danger and could have continued for a number of years on their own. I'm not quite sure if that is true, because FriendFeed didn't develop their own business model.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
About integrating the social graphs, my social networks on FF and FB had different purposes. I don't have any friends on FB whom I haven't personally met, whereas I subscribe to some people I don't know on FF just because their feeds are interesting. On a related note, the FB graph is undirected and the FF graph is directed.
- Ruchira S. Datta
@Scobleizer interviews Paul Buchheit, cofounder of FriendFeed RE acquisition by Facebook.
- Deano @ Byron New Media
"tremendous opportunity" is so vague. Opportunity for who? What opportunity exactly? Or is it just the opportunity to allow the friendfeed employees who weren't already rich to get rich?
- Laura Norvig
Laura: it's every engineer's dream to change the world of 300 million people instead of a few hundred thousand people. That's why this is a tremendous opportunity.
- Robert Scoble
Sigh. I guess. It's just very hard to think of Facebook as a life-changing venue.
- Laura Norvig
Robert: Thanks for this - some information at last!
- Jim Connolly
"Companies will collaborate to bring Microsoft Office Mobile and related communications and collaboration software and services to Nokia smartphones"
- Vlad Bobleanta
from Bookmarklet
Ovi Files Macintosh Connector that lets you do everything you can do with our Ovi Files PC Connector: * Remotely access the files stored on your OS X 10.5 (Leopard) based Mac from your mobile phone or web browser * Send files to your friends, even if they don’t use Ovi * Create an on-line mirror of content stored on your Mac using our Anytime Files feature. And you can use Ovi Files to access multiple computers at once.
- zsafwan
from Bookmarklet
Don't get me wrong - I love all of this compatibility and how everything works together. However, I am starting to go a little crazy with all of the options one has to share information and distribute it throughout various networks. Do I post to FF then share to Twitter? Do I post on Posterous than share to other networks? But then if I do that how will it effect the comments on the...
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- Mike Bracco
I'm curious as to what Posterous can do that FriendFeed can't. It just looks like another Tumblr to me *shrugs*
- LANjackal
LANjackal: They seek to be the defacto standard of how people share rich media on the web - check out this interview with founders - http://ff.im/4nQqS - it's pretty good. I wish FF gave you the ability to create a FF site with FF as the backend. I wish I could create a site that was essentially just my FF stream where people could interact with my stream in a manner that wasn't a...
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- Mike Bracco
@Mike: Thanks for the explanation. Doesn't sound reason enough for me to use it, but if you want to go ahead :)
- LANjackal
from IM
LANjackal: I hear ya :) I don't really use it either. I have an account setup just to play with it but not sure I see it fitting into my workflow/life in anyway. But who knows....I do love the simplicity and strategy of making posting really simple. I think it will be great for the less techno savvy who understand email and all they have to do to make a blog post or photo gallery is send an email to post@posterous.com
- Mike Bracco
Just tried it out, and auto-posting to FriendFeed looks the same as if you import the RSS feed. Personally I would rather FF pull items in, instead of a service pushing to FF.
- Daniel Sims
Why is this better than using Ping.fm and Traffic Geyser/Tubemogul? hmmmm
- dhamza
@dhamza, I doubt anyone would just use Posterous only as a middle-man for posting content to others sites (like you would use ping.fm or pixelpipe). It is a nice feature for auto-sharing your posterous blog posts, without having to use another in-between service.
- Daniel Sims
I seriously don't get the point of tumblr, posterous, *duplicating* data. Just link to the original sites! And I doubly don't get the point of nested tumblr/posterous/etc shares.
- Andrew C
I like Posterous, but haven't found a regular use for it yet (other than storing and organizing my media content). I agree with Mike, though, that it is nice to "own" your information and have it all originate from one source. With the many services out there that pull and aggregate data, Posterous is unique in its pushing abilities. I even think FriendFeed has been changing its focus to be more of the starting point of a conversation than the end.
- Cloud
One thing Posterous can do that FF can't (at the moment) is accept iPhone3G(s) videos via email.
- tollie williams
Daniel Sims, push is faster and more efficient than pull.
- Vezquex: God of FF
@Tollie - exactly. They've told me they're working on pushing video to flickr (right now it only pushes photos to flickr)... but I've used it for pushing video to Facebook from the iPhone and it works great.
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
Posterous is awesome. I have an account but my Blackberry 8330 has no cam :( but once I get the new iPhone expect greatness :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
Eventually, with every social media site pushing updates to every other, somebody is going to break the loop detection and we'll get an infinite number of duplicate posts about somebody's kitteh, causing the interwebz to collapse into a singularity and destroy civilization. Damn cat!
- DGentry
DGentry, agreed. It's going to take some planning now to make sure posts do not get posted in loops.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Isn't this what FF was supposed to be for? I use FF as my central posting for text and websites, and PixelPipe for media (created by me).
- Matthew DeVries
What does suck? Custom bars..... STOP USING CUSTOM BARS INTERNET! THEY SUCK METRIC ASS!
- Matthew DeVries
Been reading a lot about it. Don't have an iphone and it doesn't really provide me anything that I need or already have.
- Bill Kinney
It does seem to be a bit easier to love posterous if you're looking to share iPhone 3GS video with it.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
It's really the posting audio and video from the iPhone (and other mobiles) that I think is interesting. FF should add that feature quickly if they want to become the social MMS to the Twitter social SMS. Having private groups for these personal mobile captured images, audio, and videos is an important feature both FF and Posterous share. Posting to a public YouTube to get your video into FF is far from ideal.
- Chip Ramsey
Well, FF already has this function. Just send your picture from an Android phone e.g. to share@friendfeed.com. This should work with the fruit phone, too. And in addition, you can now send videos, too. But Friendfeed needs to support .3gp/AMR format, too.
- Ryo / Fuck Facebook
iPhone video can be shared very easily to FriendFeed via email share@friendfeed.com or upload video to YouTube and be sure you've added your YouTube service to FF and wala you're all set. Posterous does have more sophisticated posting options *hint, hint FF team*
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
I was under the impression that you could not send videos from the iPhone 3GS to FF and have them display inline. I guess I will have to test the functionality when my 3GS arrives. I understand the YouTube route, but want to keep my family videos, etc. in a private group. I don't think most people want to be spammed by videos of my son doing the robot as he slides down his new slide or my daughter singing like a bizarro Mariah Carey. I could make a private Posterous, but would prefer to keep it in FF.
- Chip Ramsey
Personally I'd like to see both of them. :-P Molly
- Molly
from email
I like Posterous I really do but I've yet to find the problem it solves. My primary output comes via my blog, misc content via Tumblr, and Friendfeed for most everything else. Posterous doesn't really offer much that I need right now. If I didn't have a blog or tumlbr it would be a good fit I guess.
- Keith - @tsudo
The biggest benefit that I can see at the moment is mobile posting. Posterus makes it drop dead simple to upload to anywhere/everywhere remotely. Updating a blog, twitter, flickr, etc, etc, via one email post makes Posterus a very shiny (if not quite silver, yet) bullet for mobile users.
- Kevin Donahue
"The largest recording companies have continued to develop software that will help them release their own version of a new interactive album. Apple will have Cocktail, but Amazon and all the other competing services will get access to the labels' version, which will offer more content than Apple's, said the music industry source."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
Given that leo does video for many hours a day and is constantly streaming, it doesn't seem like an outrageous request that they not use that name.
- Nathan Loehlein
If he has a TM on twit then has he defended it against twitter ? That has twit in the name.
- Jimmy Gardner
from iPhone
If the company called itself twittervid I bet leo would leave them alone. The TM needs defending because Leo's product includes video. LOTS of video.
- Gunny doesn't side-hug™
It's the combination of the word TWiT with audio or video content that causes the problem. We're cool with Twitter, twitpic, etc. as long as they're not doing audio or video shows.
- Leo Laporte
Seems very reasonable, Leo. Have you sent them a C&D?
- Eric Florenzano
Yeah. And they refused so we've filed suit. twitvid.io was very cooperative - they've agreed to rebrand - please use them instead. They're really great guys, too.
- Leo Laporte
Ouch, doesn't sound fun but you've got to defend your trademark. Bookmarking twitvid.io.
- Eric Florenzano
I also like tweetreel for the iPhone. Tweet is a much better word than twit for these things, don't you think? ;-)
- Leo Laporte
Is it wrong that I just sent them an email "innocently" (playing dumb) warning them that they are in the video space, and that TWiT holds a trademark in that space, and that they should really consider changing, such that a good service doesn't get blowed up because of douchey behavior? (stealing)
- Matthew DeVries
For whom is twitvid more likely to cause consumer confusion? If anyone, it would be Twitter (who have a long tradition of NOT protecting their actually much stronger trademark). It wouldn't be TWiT. Unless Twitvid is producing some general interest technology show. Oh wait, it's not. It looks like a Twitter-specific Vimeo. Even the logo is aimed at Twitter. If I were them I would respond to your C & D the same way I did when I first heard of TWiT. "And who you are you, exactly?"
- mrshl
I was confused when I sawTwitvid. I thought it was a way for me to share short videos with the TWiT network, like if I found good prices on tech, or such. I was very confused.
- Matthew DeVries
1) I don't follow Leo's Twits. 2) Yes, I am aware that Leo has used the TWiT trademark longer than Twitter. 3) Or rather that Twitter really has never done anything with the trademark. But none of those things is relevant in the legal inquiry. Again, how are consumers going to be confused by the Twitvid site? They're clearly trying to confuse people into thinking they're a great site with which to upload videos to twitter. I.e., there is no confusion.
- mrshl
Yes, trademark holders should actually protect their trademark. But in this case, the party against whom it should have been protected was probably Twitter. As pretty much everyone knows, that horse has left the barn.
- mrshl
I think you know the answer to that question. Could another site or company call itself Twitter? In two years Twitter has become like Coke or Sears or Xerox. Does TWiT get mentioned all the time on CNN? Has your grandma heard of TWiT? Twitter is a trademark. And they've also trademarked "tweets."
- mrshl
Good thing you're not a lawyer, mrshi.
- Leo Laporte
This is as big an invasion into a party's space as if I were to open a quicky burger place and call it McDonald's. Mrshi - You're being obtuse, or playing dumb.
- Matthew DeVries
While I am sure it was not intentional that the owners of twitvid.com used the 'Twit' name, out of courtesy they should comply right away with any crease/desist sent to them. If I was the owner of twitvid, I would change the name asap out of pure respect for Leo and the Twit brand he has worked hard to develop.
- Alex Knight
haha. good thing i'm not yours. or twitvid's. good luck with the boycott. i recognize you've got a lot of fans, and a hell of lot of pull. and i'll be the FIRST to say i'm not a trademark expert. but i'm not seeing a good reason for asking your fans to boycott a video site clearly aimed at twitter. and i felt the same way when you announced you were leaving twitter for jaiku, in part over trademark concerns. i agree you have a trademark. i'm just not seeing the violation.
- mrshl
twitvid.io did, in fact, agree to rebrand. They've been great.
- Leo Laporte
I agree with mrshi that there's close to zero real-world chance of confusing twitvid with anything related to Leo. OTOH, if Leo doesn't actively defend the mark, he could be screwed sometime in the future when a truly infringing case arises. The legal system sucks all 'round.
- Roger Benningfield
from BuddyFeed
Leo has every right to request a boycott and I'll support it. Change the name.
- Steve Gillmor
from iPhone
When I think of 'twit" I think of Twitter first. Should we boycott Twitpic and Twitter too?
- Brett Nordquist
I agree with Leo here. Assuming US trade mark law works similarly to our trade mark law he has a valid complaint. The name has the potential to create confusion in the minds of whoever is familiar with TWiT and that is a lot of people. I also understand that Leo almost has to take steps to defend his trade mark both to retain his ability to enforce it in future and as a deterrent to...
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- Paul Jacobson
anyone want to mention that twitvid's site also looks like garbage? just saying...
- Jeremy Lane
Leo you know I will, and the twit army will, & anyone who knows ya will
- D Lets
I am supporting Leo on this boycott till they change there name..
- Fireman17
The Twit Army is being called into ACTION! Boycott, will do!
- Rob Summit
Sorry but what Christopher said............
- Kevin J Hatton
Twitter doesn't distinguish twit in the logo like these guys do.. And twitter is not doing anything remotely close to what twit does.. TwitVid.com does video. Twit does video.
- Anton Tanderup
I think Leo managed to work something out with Twitter though. Besides, it isn't just about the similarity of the name. It is the type of business the company is engaged in. TwitVid does video production, like TWiT, and that adds to the confusion.
- Paul Jacobson
Twitvid is such an obvious violation it would almost seem they are doing this out of some kind of spite. I call on all TWIT supporters to not only support Leo but also comment in every blog and web site stating this situation so other copyright pirates would think twice before pulling a stunt like this one. mrshl...if you are surely an attorney ambulance chaser I suggest you go back to night school and refresh your knowledge regarding copyright law.
- earl wallace
What I don't get is, if they hadn't heard of TWiT how can anyone say it is a is an intententional violation and not one a service simply stating that it is part of Twitter eco-system hence the logo hence the twit. I had never heard of TWiT, and I suspect 99% of twitter have never heard of TWiT either.
- Paul Kinlan
Earl, I don't think your personal attacks are very helpful.
- mrshl
Surely it's not really about whether they were intentionally/knowingly doing it? It's just the fact that Leo HAS to go after people potentially infringing on his trademark, whether he likes it or not, because otherwise he will just LOSE it. Regardless of the situation.
- Jalada
Looking at this objectively, this is actually not as binary as people make it out to be. On the surface, without any other knowledge, you see a name like TwitVid and you could come to the conclusion that they are somehow showing/pirating/someway using videos from TWiT. However, if you go to the site TwitVid.com, it is clearly associated with Twitter. From the logo, look and feel, text...
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- Joel Marcey
Nice Darren! Hope that all works out for you. I love the way that EN is flexible enough to let people do GTD in the way that suits them best (my method is a bit different from yours... I don't like using notebooks so use saved searches instead). Thanks for sharing!
- Lindsay
I also love this tip and will make use of it myself: "I love the ability to email stuff to my Evernote account. However, the unique email address that is assigned is too hard to remember. So I created another GMAIL account that looks like: evernote.myname@gmail.com and then created a filter to forward emails from my personal and work email addresses to the unique evernote address. It is...
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- Lindsay
Thanks Lindsay... I need to play with Saved Searches some more and may end up modifying the setup a bit. I don't like that when I think of a keyword to search and I am in one discrete folder that it doesn't search the others. That adds additional clicks which I am not happy about.
- Darren Crawford
If you forget about notebooks and just use tags then you can avoid that problem. Saved searches can be set up to search all notebooks (when you don't specify a notebook in the search) so nothing gets hidden. I basically use notebooks for sharing and as an easy way to group things by topic for sharing but I do my organizing with tags. http://www.evernote.com/pub...
- Lindsay
from Android
this is a great comment on the email address thing that was posted as a comment by KAREN COOKE: with gmail you can send things to username+tag@gmail.com and it will go to the username@gmail.com inbox. You can then use filtering to send that email onto evernote or wherever based on which tag you use. That saves signing up for a new address.
- Darren Crawford
Interesting, Darren. But, for me, EN is the place for reference and project support material. Trying to use it for GTD is way too much like hard work. I use Tracks, which was configured specifically for GTD, and which is easy, open source and free. Different strokes, I suppose.
- David Hayes
@David - Agreed, GTD is something you have to make work for you. Even David Allen says that it's a methodology you customize to your personal preferences, not that you should follow his advice to the letter and have to use things like notebooks and physical tickler files. Personally I like having everything in one place, so EN works for me like Darren. But I have used other things like a customized TiddlyWiki and a customized WordPress blog and a few other things before. Whatever floats your boat!
- Lindsay
thanks for sharing - just a side note on the additional GMail address: you could also send it to <yourname>+evernote@gmail.com and filter msgs sent to: that address...
- schilke
I didn't want to turn this feature off, exactly. Just wanted a way to make it useful. Limiting it to people I actually know reduces the frequency, and makes the recommendation a bit more helpful and informative. Thanks, GR.
- mrshl
from Bookmarklet
Right now it is such a useful person discovery tool, but I am glad the option is there.
- Sean Brady