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Smartphone Wars: Motorola Droid vs. iPhone 3GS vs. Palm Pre - http://www.billshrink.com/blog...
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Also, @ChrisBrogan and Pete Teo (15 Malaysia) will appear at Social Media Club - Kuala Lumpur Meet #0. w00t. http://www.facebook.com/event...
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very cool!
- Paul Moss
Getting Started with PubSubHubbub - http://blog.superfeedr.com/API...
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every time I see PubSubHubbub I laugh. It's SO awkward to say that out loud.
- Call me Bronco
The engineers behind it simply call it "Hubbub". I use the whole word.
- Louis Gray
+1 Hubbub
- Bryan Lee
Terry Jones #1 http://m.kyte.tv/ch...
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There are four parts to this video. One of the most interesting developers and ideas for the RealTimeWeb that I've heard yet. I wish FriendFeed has this search engine's capabilities.
- Robert Scoble
Okay, you've got me hooked, RS. Gimme more, please, Sir!
- James D Kirk
fascinating concept "Fluid Info": "database with a heart of a wiki" ... love his accent! Interesting to give user so much control w/o schemas, permissions, etc. Removes all the structure, limitations....wow
- Susan Beebe
ok where's part 2 at?
- Susan Beebe
Susan: Uploads from Spain are slow.
- Robert Scoble
Faster than China or slower?
- David Feng
from IM
Sorry - wrong comment... I mean, commented to wrong person...
- David Feng
from IM
Gotcha! Time for some coffee although that hot chocolate does sound better :)
- Susan Beebe
David: I think uploads in China were faster. But I think the hotel wifi sucks. Can't blame that on an entire country. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert! And thanks for watching.... I'm a bit of a gasbag.
- Terry Jones
Terry your ideas are amazing... ripping away the layers of db constraints to open up an evolutionary platform for information mining / sharing is simply AWESOME! My db structured brain is having a tough time computing the lack of structures, but my intuition tells me this is right for the future....neat data model design concept for sure!
- Susan Beebe
Hi Susan. Thanks :-) BTW, there are permissions. You can have, e.g., a susan/rating attribute that you're putting onto things, and it's yours - no one else can detect/read/write/delete it unless you let them. OTOH, the underlying database objects have no owner. There are no permissions at that level. So you can put a rating (or anything else) onto any object (that you can find). No-one can stop you. So we're fully writable like a wiki, but with a permissions structure within the object (unlike a wiki).
- Terry Jones
Ooooh got it!!! Ok so you're building a core data model (protected) with objects everywhere (open design) which are available to users who are presented with a highly customizable user profile (detect/read/write/delete ) that can call / manipulate said objects to create the user's *own* data set (which has multiple layers of permissions / attributes / tags? to control sharing, reporting and distribution of data) = fabulous! when can I have it? :)
- Susan Beebe
Terry - is this something like entity/attribute/value? I did something like that a few years ago... but found it hard to do searching - equality in my thing was fine, but greater than, less than etc (ie: with a date range) were a bit harder. How have you overcome this?
- Brad
@Susan. Yes, that sounds more or less right. Yes, your own data is on the objects, as it that of anyone else who wants to put something there. it's all combinable, searchable as you like. Plus you can organize multiply, simultaneously, and arbitrarily (simply by adding more tags to objs & searching). We'll do an alpha release in early 2009.
- Terry Jones
@Brad. Dates are stored both numerically and textually. What gets searched on depends on the query. terry/seen > "Jan 22, 2007" is numeric, terry/seen ~ "Monday" is textual, etc. The query language is dead simple. It took me a lot of thinking to reduce everything to very very simple primitive operations and an easily parallelizable query language.
- Terry Jones
BTW, there are 3 more parts to the video coming up... :-)
- Terry Jones
Part II is now up: http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Robert Scoble
Impressive demo and ideas. I was thinking about similar lines last week using CouchDB (a schemaless document database by Damian Katz). Also the views in FluidDB sound like views in CouchDB. I very much like the idea of sharing data and being able to annotate or enhance the original(!) data. This is Open Data on steroids.
- Berry Groenendijk
Mindnumbing stuff.
- Thomas Bøhm
@Berry Hi. I'm reasonably familiar with CouchDB. It's a very different animal. CouchDB is very focused on documents, and lays out complete documents (serialized JSON strings actually, plus BLOBs) efficiently on disk. FluidDB is not focused on anything :-) And its storage is not done by object, but is instead by attribute (or tag if you like). CouchDB used to not have permissions, but I think that's changing/ed. About views yes, agreed. I hope that makes it clearer. It takes a while to get.
- Terry Jones
Part #3 is now up http://bit.ly/UteO
- Terry Jones
Terry I think I am slowly getting my head around FluidDB. There is still one big problem. The way people tag things. Some people tag things with a x,y coordinates, others with a longitude and latitude, etc. You need consistent tag names (or metadata field names or whatever) to be able to effectively search data. Does FluidDB help you with this in any way?
- Berry Groenendijk
And part #4 http://www.kyte.tv/ch...
- Terry Jones
Hi Berry. No, there's no help, and nor do I think there should be. Conventions evolve. They become consistent to the degree that it's important they are consistent. If it doesn't matter that you write color and I write colour, then it's no big deal. But if I write S.O.S. and you write S.O.B., it could be very important!
- Terry Jones
There's a lot of evolutionary biology thinking behind FluidDB. Attributes will (implicitly) have fitness. Things that are useful will flourish, become trusted, be heavily used, and their owners will similarly gain. Other stuff will not. This gets at the question of spam too. What's spam? But that's another subject - also very important if you're going to build an information architecture that can survive its own success.
- Terry Jones
Terry I like the way you think about these things. Just viewed part #4 of the interview. I am looking forward to the alpha release.
- Berry Groenendijk
Eager to see Alpha product too! send me invite susan.beebe {at} gmail dot com - thanks! This is really inspiring / disruptive technology!! love it! makes my brain hurt in a GOOD way (i.e. un-doing all the overly burdensome architecture that was imprisoning my data!) :-) Terry is one smart cookie!!
- Susan Beebe
How will you expire certain attributes? Similar to domain name management today, will you have leases on groups (or specific) attributes? This seems to be the way that you're going with the revenue model, and would certainly make sense after you've reached enough critical mass. When will you start allowing people to start reserving namespaces/attributes?
- Davison
very neat project
- mikehedge
@Terry - thanks. I built my thing on a standard relational db - Firebird, but everything was stored as text, so it was a bit difficult... :) So... how do you go about implementing "relationships"? ie: I have a video store, with all these videos, and this person rents these vids, so I'd like to send them an email when there's a new release in the genre that they've hired previously? Would love to talk to you more about this. Thanks!
- Brad
@SusanBeebe - you know, that's exactly right! undoing the architecture! yes, sort of kinda..... :) and freeing one'self from the confines of relational theory... but see me other comment to Terry re relationships. Happy Days! :)
- Brad
@Terry - sorry I can't stop thinking about this. In my thing, I maintained another table that aggregated all the various uses of a "thing". So at a glance, I could tell what the most used credit card was for purchases.... which state had the most sales etc.... this was a way to help the business owner make sense of all the data, and plan for the future. ie: Diners Club had like 2% of sales, yet attracted the highest fees - so that tells me get rid of Diners Club as a payment method? That sort of thing.....
- Brad
@Terry - and all - I had better stop here - I could keep typing all night about this, and then miss the new year! :) So happy new year to everyone. And special thanks to Robert for bringing you to our attention.
- Brad
Hi @Brad. Sorry for my slow replies - I don't get any notification of new comments here. I don't really use friendfeed (yet). I'm not sure exactly what @Susan had in mind with her "undoing the arch" comment, but that certainly captures the flavor. Re relationships, there is NO support for them. It's not a relational model. There's just a (conceptually) very simple architecture and laughably simple query language. You get to do analysis on your own CPU :-) Lots of tradeoffs there, of course.
- Terry Jones
The Kyte videos seem to be dead. Am I just stupid or did they get deleted?
- Steven Walling
The video still works for me.
- Terry Jones
RT @jowyang IBM is afraid of Microsoft who is afraid of Google who is afraid of Facebook who is afraid of Twitter who is afraid of whales
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19 Presence Management Chores You COULD Do Every Day - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/19-pres...
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good stuff! thanks Chris :)
- Susan Beebe
like this!
- MoRiza
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Neat, good find
- LANjackal
Yeah it was covered on TC a little while back and have played with it for a little bit - thought others might like :)
- Mike Bracco
Can't believe how much this logo looks like carrefour one....
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
Ooo I like this - thanks Mike. Embedr looks great. I like the way it shows you video playlist below the current video.
- Robert Freeze
ContextVoice Conversation API Launches - http://www.readwriteweb.com/readwri...
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Sorry, There's No Way To Save The TV Business - http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-b...
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"The traditional TV industry--cable companies, networks, and broadcasters--is where the newspaper industry was about five years ago: In denial. There are murmurings on the edges about how longstanding business models will come under pressure as Internet distribution takes over. But, so far, the revenue and profits are hanging in there, so the big TV companies don't really care."
- Brad Williamson
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Join us in the "Media News And Analysis" group as we examine the world's main source of information and entertainment, The Media ;-) http://friendfeed.com/media-n...
- Brad Williamson
This is wrong. I work in TV and they're trying very hard to figure it out. The internet is designed to replace the broadcast TV network because it's more stable and can be accessed anywhere with any device. It's ALWAYS been designed to do this. The only difference is now the web has the capacity to do it. As an insider in the market who meets with every network, I can say that they are trying and working to adapt.
- Patricia
There's no way television isn't trying to keep up with the pace of the Internet's evolution. The newspaper industry's collapse is a widely available text book of how to ignore a huge elephant in the room and fall on your ass because of it. I'm sure TV execs are working hard behind the scenes on innovations we know nothing about.
- Brad Williamson
The mainstream media -- and TV networks especially -- have traditionally sought maximum oligopolistic power. The Internet is the supreme anti-oligopolistic media platform. Good luck with that, TV networks. The Internet is as much a social as a technological revolution -- one which favors the radical decentralization of power.
- Sean McBride
@sean, the internet can be, but lack of understanding among people will make it easier for the networks (and other big biz) to step in. it's already happening. i am very behind the scenes of the internet in all facets (internet, media, retail, brands, entertainment/tv) and trust me, there are a lot of moves taking as we speak that people don't hear or see. the attention is focused so...
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- Patricia
Patricia -- I have no doubt that mainstream media companies will try to break and bend the Internet to their will, to turn it into yet another centrally controlled oligopoly from which they can milk maximum profits and impose a narrow political agenda on everyone. But the essential structure and culture of the Internet will make that quite difficult for them to do. Traditional mainstream TV networks, radio networks and magazines are facing the same fate as the newspaper industry
- Sean McBride
@Sean, it's not that they're trying to break or bend it or take it away from anybody - it's business. What I'm saying is that it's not them who will take this out of our hands, but us. What we should be doing is working together to create a more balanced new world of both -- it's the better fight to win.
- Patricia
Patricia -- the blogosphere seized power from traditional newspapers by generating superior product. It was an enterprise of bold individuals, without much collective cooperation that I noticed. The Internet maximizes the influence of talented individuals -- it is intrinsically anti-corporate in culture and structure. Traditional mainstream media companies can't wrap their minds around it -- it's a challenge to their basic assumptions about the world.
- Sean McBride
We no longer need large corporations to distribute content from talented individuals. They no longer serve much useful purpose. (Film studios will survive, however -- movie-making often requires huge outlays of capital upfront, and the coordination of the talents of many individuals as a team.)
- Sean McBride
The Man Who Made Gmail Says Real-Time Conversation is What's Next (The Future of FriendFeed) http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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"Paul Buchheit built the first version of Gmail in one day. Then he built the first prototype of Google's contextual advertising service Adsense, in one day as well." - so he practically invented whole Google. What are all these other engineers doing?? ;)
- Meryn Stol
FriendFeed seems to be taking more than a day, what gives?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
fantastic write up Marshall
- Jamie
Thanks for the link to Pretzel Logic, Marshall. Ironically, I was at a lunch meeting about the time you published this and we were talking about other use cases for a FriendFeed-esq platform in the enterprise. There's so many more places where this makes sense in the business world. I'll do a follow up in a few weeks.
- Sameer
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Sameer, cool. :)
- Meryn Stol
Loved this article, Marshall. FYI the link to http://www.linkedin.com/in... is 404, MIA.
- Pat
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thanks Pat! fixed that link, was missing a letter
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
I can see in the future, an open wire VOiP link that everyone can share, there will be SIG channels that groups can side track too, and then go back to the main channel & listen. You would invite like Twitter or Friend Feed (maybe Google) to control the channels. We used this type of intercom system with NASA where we all could talk to each other at the same time for downrange...
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- HamRadioActive
This was the article that convinced me to join Friendfeed. The way Friendfeed documents a conversation is very compelling.
- JR Holmes
I think this whole real time conversation around a social object concept is very powerful. Social Objects anchor the conversation in shared context between participants.
- Zaki Manian
Man, 1 in 4 comments on that article are yahoos smugly asserting that FF is an IRC clone and that Marshall/Paul are lying or dumb to think otherwise. Why are blog readers so quick to judge?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
The first comment says it all. What's described here sounds much too noisy to be efficient or even fun.
- Tal Shafik
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+1 Daniel.
- Sameer
I agree. I am a fan of Friendfeed. Much better than Twitter.
- ramiromarques
The real-time conversation facet of FriendFeed is now only emphasize with the appearance of Google Wave. I hope FriendFeed will figure out its place in the emerging space. Would FriendFeed Wave extensions (Wave gadgets and robots) be sufficient to stay in the game? Is FriendFeed experimenting with Wave APIs? I hope it is.
- Nenad Nikolic
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How I read Tweets http://m.kyte.tv/ch...
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Brilliant. I'm filtering/searching twitter messages through notify.me
- Orli Yakuel
This is a great kyte cast. Is that the right word for it? I'm always trying to figure out the best way to utilize these social sites to proper filter out the garbage for the nuggets.
- Daniel Norton
To learn how to use Friendfeed effectively, where do you suggest starting? Watching your video here and interested in leveraging its capabilities so would like to know a good way to get my feet wet here.
- Lyn Graft
Excellent live video...thanks!
- Keith Neisler
You should do a similar one on just Friendfeed, try to get more people over here :)
- Simon Wicks
Robert that was great. Thanks for doing the video! Can you do one on Friendfeed like Simon asked? I think that would be very helpful! :)
- Daynah
Thanks for sharing - good segment. Now I just need more time in the day! Can you do any split screen interviews like the Peter Himmelman show a few weeks ago?
- Lyn Graft
That was awesome live video you did.
- Amar Shah
Thanks for the live video! Inspiring me to spend more time working out FriendFeed.
- Jalada
Lyn: I did a separate video on how to use friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Robert Scoble
I like tweetdeck a lot but I can't live without navigation w/keyboard and the two-fingers horiz scroll so they really need to get this for me to definitely switch!
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
I missed the Friendfeed one, thanks for the link again Robert
- Simon Wicks
Check out the Unofficial Guides to FriendFeed included in the post at http://www.growmap.com/friendf....
- Internet Strategist
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It was really helpful
- Pelle Sjoqvist
from twhirl
Excellent video Robert.
- Jim Connolly
I second the request for a friendfeed video as well. Oh, and good video Robert
- Peter Efland
Thanks Robert. I always learn something about using FriendFeed or Twitter more effectively from you.
- Tom Landini
I'm behind a terribly unstable and slow 2G connection. Anyone care to summarize the video?
- Jan Ignatius
brilliant
- Thomas Power
This is really helpful. Sco. I like the "media snack" term. And "attention thief." Would like to see your GTD vid when you do it. And less so your google reader one. Search.twiiter.com. And generally how you drink valuable memes from the firehose is helpful. Is there a "channel" of these vids from you? "Feedly.com" I couldn't parse the verbal- google grabbed it based on sound.
- moon_shadow70
I'm finding kyte interface a bit annoying cause I paused and walked away and can't just reload to where I was!!!! (is it me?) Arg, I may redo the first 15+ minutes.
- moon_shadow70
It would be helpful to have your "must follow" list in non-verbal format that was too fast.And Kyte's rewind is way too inexact to keep rewinding it. Thanks. :-)
- moon_shadow70
Has this changed in recent times? I heard on the gilmore gang that 90% of your friends are on FF, so is twitter still as prominent?
- Chris Lloyd
Chris Twitter is becoming less important.
- Robert Scoble
My mind map for today's talk to CIOs. What else should I add? Keep in mind got 30 minutes. Dicuss here please:
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In the room are CIOs from Home Depot, Pepsi, Johnson and Johnson, Prudential, Bechtel, etc.
- Robert Scoble
Also see here: http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... for a discussion that we did earlier about what I should tell CIOs.
- Robert Scoble
Theme of my talk is "the 2010 Web."
- Robert Scoble
I don't see XMIND :)
- Tim McDougall
Because of time constraints I'm trying to NOT be comprehensive, but just give a taste of the best of the tech industry innovation lately and what it could mean to their businesses.
- Robert Scoble
ask them how they are measuring all this stuff.
- Brian Watkins
Brian: will do, but in many ways we are too early for measuring. I bet they haven't even heard of a lot of this stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Nice, you popped in Atlassian and Socialtext, good call. Mint though? Bit early isn't it? >> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps...
- Nick Wade
I mean, how many CIOs do you see here on friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Are ou going to mention backtype or ubervu in the community section?
- dthree
fun stats on why collaboration: http://tinyurl.com/ch83jy
- Carrie Krinock
Nick: that's probably true, but they signed up a million people so are an example of a consumer service that's done well.
- Robert Scoble
David: I might mention them, but I'm not trying to be comprehensive.
- Robert Scoble
I think open standards need a mention since Microformats is now even supported by Google. Automating to extract information from structured data brings great opportunities.
- Burcu Dogan
Analytics
- George Dearing
Scoble: I think you have to have Twitter, they all know it but it has to be there, it is a platform that engages and ties with a lot of what is in your talk
- Lou Paglia
Mobile is way under-emphasized... I think that's gonna start getting bigger and bigger and bigger...
- Joel Haasnoot
Joel: I agree, I could spend 16 hours just on mobile. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: fair comment re Mint.
- Nick Wade
++Joel completely agree. mobile is bigger than ever now and 2010
- Lou Paglia
Have you added calibration tools for product demos and training ?
- William Lopez
William: no, what kind of tools are you thinking of?
- Robert Scoble
Have fun, remember most people hate sitting in their seats more than 20 minutes, make they get up and down a little. Ask one of them to come up and do pushups.
- Halley Suitt
Halley: um, I'm not THAT brave! :-)
- Robert Scoble
ome emphasis on Web Services - and agree on the Mobile detail required!
- Manoj Menon
Just don't let them challenge YOU to a push-up battle ... no fun, even for me.
- Halley Suitt
could have major topic not about tools but "paradigm shifts", the breakdown of the walls between the enterprise and the rest of the web, 2010 CIOs will contend more than ever with not being able to put four walls around their corporate constituents
- Lou Paglia
I underplay mobile because I could spend hours on just that. Heheh. I have 30 minutes.
- Robert Scoble
Lou: absolutely! That will be a subtext to everything.
- Robert Scoble
Hmm, but mobile is moving more and more to tailor-made-mobile, not just a bare bones version of the website: maybe that's a paradigm shift you could mention.
- Joel Haasnoot
If CIO's aren't careful, paradigm shifts become paradigm shafts, as they take a sudden beating in a marketplace.
- Halley Suitt
there is the issue of "mixed discovery" I am missing; a ping pong of subjects and peoples when you use twitter e.g.; you go from @person to #issue to @ person etc ... - that is a new kind of serendipity; could be used to have new ideas about marketing
- Willi Schroll
You forgot to show the Oprah-fication of any modern technology.
- Pete Barry
I am missing the integration bit ... not sure it really exists yet. The problem is that this is way too many tools for any one company. so possibly just a missing item.
- Oliver Thylmann
@halley they can either be part of the movement and coach their organizations through the changes as a thought leader or many can continue to try to put up "sand bags" and there is where the your term, shaft, will come.
- Lou Paglia
What about Hulu under video? For me it's an important piece. :)
- James Furlo
James: good catch.
- Robert Scoble
I just gave a similar talk here in LA yesterday. My take on it as a former CIO is how the consumer/general internet systems are tackling the problems that have plagued enterprise. From single sign on to data portability, transparency, collaboration and real time communication. They need to start looking at these systems as the model for the new enterprise in 2010 and beyond.
- Jerry Schuman
In cloud, what about development availability, S3, EC2, gist, gnip, the glue movement, shared data center and server resources (there's your Rackspace plug)
- Lou Paglia
Boxee might be a good topic as they are trying to make it a media player with a social web component.
- dthree
Lou: that's another area I underplayed on purpose because I could spend an hour there. Personally it'll lead us down a rathole and keep us from talking about the bigger trends. If they start deploying anything new they'll need hosting and we'll be involved in the conversation then.
- Robert Scoble
David: Boxee is a good one to discuss.
- Robert Scoble
an overall theme is the shift in technology moving consumer to enterprise rather than the other way around. For companies its more important than ever to look at what startups/small biz are doing vs thinking "they'll be using my big system in 5 years".
- William Kapes
Should Boxee really be on a CIO's radar at this point, is convergence of web with the digital home even part of the CIO conversation, should it be?
- Lou Paglia
Sometimes I wonder if CIO's really grok the way the folks they support WORK day to day. Sometimes we're at home w/a crying baby, sometimes on the road w/customers, sometimes in the office. As a sales marketing geek for years, I always wanted to scream, "Hey guys, I'm in a rental car on a frigging windy road north of Portland in a thunderstorm trying to connect to the system to get the new pricing sheet, do you GET my life? Help me out here!"
- Halley Suitt
Are you using MindManager for your mindmaps, Robert?
- Rohit
Lou: good point, gotta stay focused a BIT on business, but the changes in TV do have implications. I just was at Adobe and they are enabling 1080p high def to both browsers and TV.
- Robert Scoble
Rohit: yes, this is done with MindManager.
- Robert Scoble
The ideas behind technologies like Wolfram|Alpha and Hunch
- Mike Smith
Robert - Here's a Mindmeister Mind Map that I've been working on here and there for some time now - I don't have geolocation-centric sites listed, but otherwise, this is a handy look at the social-sphere: http://www.mindmeister.com/maps...
- Enrique Gutierrez
Mogulus in the live video section? And why not other sites, like BlipTV or others, for those who edit and upload higher quality videos that are shareable?
- Ken Kaplan
Since these are CIO's you can talk about how sometimes even "outlaw" technologies can find a place in the modern workplace. There are companies using BitTorrent to push out updates among sites, saves on bandwidth since it goes distributed. But I think the biggest focus of your talk, since its you :), should be the influence of the social and real-time web and its impact. Again, your strength and you've only got 30 mins
- William Kapes
@Lou Paglia, got that right.
- Halley Suitt
Ken: good point. I love Blip. But again I wasn't trying to be comprehensive.
- Robert Scoble
topline think this may be too granular for most CIOs - this group is broad predictions for the path + a few examples. Functionally expand microblogging add Twitter then let niche apps flow from there.
- Carol Lynn Martens
Doesn't LinkedIn apply. There is a lot of professional interaction and the Answers section for mentoring.
- Alan Eggleston
CIOs are going to be most interested in security, and not necessarily hampering the discussion (some will), but rather how they can track what people are saying within the company, and how they can better train those that use social media in the company. At least that was my experience speaking to a similar group of CIOs in Dallas last year.
- Jesse Stay
Alan: I was on purpose leaving out older social networks like Linked In, Twitter, and Facebook. I want to focus on what's disruptive.
- Robert Scoble
not sure if this was asked above...but will there be a video of this, Robert?
- Carlos Ayala
Carlos, nope, sorry. Usually with a small intimate group (only about 20) they want to have off the record conversations.
- Robert Scoble
Unless I missed something there may be a gap in terms of viral video (YouTube, etc), shared image hosting and slideshows, and even presentation sharing (SlideShare, AuthorSTREAM)--with literacy and attention spans down these become key communication components IMHO on two levels -- ease of use (post once link anywhere) and ability to comment and rate to build communities of passion.
- Tom Bunzel
Quick question robert: which programs do you use on your mac and iphone to access friendfeed?
- Rohit
Where is Vimeo?.. Hulu..?
- Oğuz Serdar
What about Evernote in the "Cloud and Collaboration" topic? It's ubiquitous... web, desktop, iPhone, Blackberry, etc.
- Kurt Rosenkranz
Roger that Robert, understood. Thanks.
- Carlos Ayala
Azure, App Engine, Rack Space Cloud, Amazon EC3, etc... Something had to run all those things in your mind map.
- Jeff Weber
Google Apps under both Office and Collaboration
- Scott McMullan
You can tell them: because of the "cloud" most of them won't have a job in 2 years, because of social-realtime web, most of their businesses won't make it through the depression
- Tweet Feeds
I know you're trying to keep the map slim, but: Google Voice, drop.io, and the mention of Evernote on iphone - the snapnote feature (mobile image capture/upload + OCR + desktop, web/feed access).
- Micah Wittman
Say hi you are on screen
- Robert Scoble
Hi CIOs!
- Jesse Stay
Hi everbody.
- dthree
Jesse the CIO of your church says hi!
- Robert Scoble
hi everyone
- Brian Watkins
Robert tell Joel I said hi back - you two should do lunch some time and have him show you some of the stuff they're doing.
- Jesse Stay
Hope you guys blocked out a few hours of your time. Robert kind of talks a lot.
- Jerry Schuman
Hi CIOs, the smarts are moving to the edges of the organization so dust off your resumes, your roles are obsolete
- Tweet Feeds
I think there will be more mixture between real life and online life. Sharing identities & connections will be as common as exchanging business cards right now. And, I predict, you will be tagging real-life objects with your phone (or your My name is E connector) to put them as favorites online. Or to ask for a product sample with one simple motion (thanks to nfc and rfid). So, 'sharing identities / mixing real and virtual' deserves some attention... Good luck!
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Hi from the Netherlands. Just to point out you need more focus in your MindMap on international collaboration tools :)
- Rene de Vries
Robert, perhaps touch on how they plan to serve the business / marketing side more effectively? Maximize available man hours, evolve prioritization criteria, etc.
- Jeff
Oh. And great to see Wakoopa on the list there. 'You are what you use' is a pretty powerful social indicator.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
How about adding VMware under Cloud and Communities.
- Shobhana
@Home Depot: I'm no Luddite, but I did not at all like the automated checkouts at first. Now I'm coming around - last week had the quickest turn-around shopping experience at a hardward store that I can remember. Sorry, back on topic now :)
- Micah Wittman
i would add geezeo next to mint and perhaps txtblaster next to tatango
- Allen Stern
Live mesh,live office for collaboration.
- ashish
Nice job, Robert. $1 to first CIO (other than me) from that room who responds to this message. :)
- Joel Dehlin
Joel you're one of the *only* CIOs I know that uses FriendFeed. You've been using it for over a year now I think, haven't you?
- Jesse Stay
from email
Jesse: I think there may be a few other ones onto friendfeed, but I think I might have shocked them with a look at my real time feed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Joel, nice meeting you, I'll find out the answer to your question. Can you follow me here on friendfeed so I can DM you?
- Robert Scoble
Don't forget about Dropbox under "cloud and collaboration". One of my favorite tools by far.
- Brandon Titus
Under Consumer, I would add a major value and coupon site like RedPlum.com personally as companies like Home Depot and Pepsi can relate to this.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
@scobleizer Awesome mindmap. Why does youtube not make the map under video?
- Kevin Murray
perty, good job much better than a power p prezzo
- sofarsoShawn
Kevin: now that I've given a speech I need to go through and make it much more complete. For the speech I was going for disruptive stuff that was changing right now and that would jog my memory. As it was we didn't get through the complete list. 30 minutes flies by.
- Robert Scoble
like that I could read your mindmap on my iphone - funny though when I saw web 2010 I thought - ah robert is providing a glimpse of the future to disconnected cio's - then realized that's a little over 7 months away - wow time flies :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
mike: and keep in mind that the car industry has changed the definition of a year anyway. I'm getting my 2010 Prius in a week or two.
- Robert Scoble
true
- mike "glemak" dunn
To adopt any of this nascent social media, there must be an almost immediate ROI. Otherwise, it's nothing more than an amusement.
- Don Bonaddio
D@mn Don! On the noesy!
- Arleen Anderson
Don: there is a lot of money in amusements. ;-)
- Robert Scoble
after reading this thread "better" - there have been many cto's on friendfeed for awhile now, different dna than cio's - justsayn :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
you covered all that in 30mins? Or was this the handout.
- Ryan Stanley
Ryan: we got to one or two nodes. Heheh. I don't do handouts.
- Robert Scoble
You forgot Aviary.
- Mike Shields
Oh, and we should probably discuss it instead :)
- Mike Shields
Did you find most of your audience were already Web 2.0 savvy?
- Ryan Stanley
BBC iPlayer?
- Rupert Watson
ROI - Robert - is there a slide that tells them why? Jack Welch would tell you that if you are not measuring this you are not managing it. The only way to persuade grey beards like me is to show them why it is worthwhile otherwise in this climate more than any other time - experiments for the sake of just learning and playing will get short shrift.
- Simon Rogers
Scobes: thanks for the reply on the youtube q. your mindmap is my new "must understand" check list. thanks again for all your contribution.
- Kevin Murray
What about integrating home - all the appliance at home if we can control it from the net. .....security has too be very good.
- anamika
I'm curious as to how the CIO of Home Depot responded. Being a B&M hardware store, they aren't very big on Tech (ask me about using and deploying Office 97 in 2004 *shudder*). When I was there, there was lots of energy going in to SAP and other ERP related products/projects but not much energy going into making sure employees could use those tools. I digress...so how did it go?
- EricaJoy
EricaJoy: I don't remember a specific response from him. There was some of the usual pushback about why I would share so much of my life online. Other than that I was impressed that they were very literate on the topics and services I showed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I don't see sync and version control products on your mind map. I think they are getting important for information management.
- Arvind
any chance you'd post final draft - maybe in original form (not pdf/jpg?) also - camtasia recording of presentation could be fun
- Courtney Engle
Don't see SlideShare it'd be handy under Collaboration and if not on this presentation perhaps on one with a focus on the next stage or under implementation strategies.
- James Stratford
open web identity: add Firefox (with 200+ downloads...); Jammer is spelled Yammer; add AWS at cloud services; I would definitely move Ning to 'community' (it is also realtime; but first of all it is the most important community building platform; very popular in the Netherlands); Google Apps for collaboration
- Jeroen De Miranda
Robert, if you have time to answer quickly, are you using the Mac or Windows version or both?
- Gregg Morris
Gregg Windows version
- Robert Scoble
i am late for this but, i wud also add twine and streamy..not sure where though. i thought i saw analytics up there...definitely a must. also really confused as to how evernote helps brands connect with consumers.
- Freddie Benjamin
Was this speech recorded? Would be good to see it if possible.
- Chet Thaker
Chet: nope, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
No worries Robert. Will have to try and catch one of speeches live. You're coming to the UK in July I notice from your Dopplr.
- Chet Thaker
just saw you have the apps room in there, did you get a few words in about it?
- Zee.
Zee: we talked about friendfeed but I don't think we spoke specifically about that room.
- Robert Scoble
You left out Search, Commerce, Mobile - no? All of these are critical business drivers, platforms, customer channels. All are shifting, seismically under their enterprise feet.
- Thom Kennon
Wolfram|Alpha
- Andrew Eglinton
Brad Williamson to Brad's feed, Media News and Analysis, Social Media, Social Media Club, RWW: The Future of Tech, TheNextWeb Forum
Remember that collage of web 2.0 companies? Well, it's been updated... - http://meish.org/2009...
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"This collage of web 2.0 logos should be pretty familiar to many people by now. It’s been knocking about for a few years, ever since the whole Web 2.0 Koolaid (what’s the British equivalent? Ribena?) started flowing. During that time, I’ve seen it printed out and stuck up on the walls of companies and individuals, appearing in about a million blogs, and it should almost go without saying that this image gets used endlessly in presentations at events about the social web, or web 2.0 technologies, or the changing face of business in the last few years, or design and UX in the new web. So having recently been confronted with this image in a presentation (used as being indicative of current reality), I thought it was time that it was updated. I present these updates without reference to or predicting the demise of web 2.0 or social technologies or anything like that. Just to be a bit more accurate.
- Brad Williamson
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NOTE: If you like this article, make sure to join the "Media News And Analysis" group... http://friendfeed.com/media-n...
- Brad Williamson
How many years with Web 2.0 last?
- Cristo
wondering if this twitter change is based on complaints from new users and only breaks the service for early adopter types
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But it was an OPTION before. How are options bad? New users can turn off replies, early adopters can leave them on. #fixreplies
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
crazy. how to castrate your service in one easy step..
- Paul Moss
Comment on: Brandstreaming: What Is It & Who's Doing It? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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This is a nice analysis. I believe what you are calling "brandstreaming" works best if it is tied to customer service and important company announcements rather than a constant flow of links back to the company's site, which can start to feel like spam. I like what Freshbooks http://twitter.com/freshbooks does in this regard. It also really only works if there is an on-going relationship built with the followers/consumers rather than as part of a short-lived marketing campaign. For this reason companies themselves need to be involved in creating content for the "brandstream" rather than just their agencies who could lose the mandate after a particular campaign. Zappos, for example, are masters of getting staff online. In summary, as a consumer this is what I look for when I follow a company or brand on Twitter, FriendFeed or other spaces: - to obtain new information on important new product developments; - to build a stronger on-going relationship with the company; - through the stronger relationship obtai
- Connie Crosby
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
i think one of the things that bothers me about all this Facebook open stuff is the smugness of it
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What is smug specifically? I'm not disagreeing, just wondering what you found smug?
- CharlieWhiskey™
I am watching "We Live in Public." Film that won Sundance this year. We need to show this to all Twitter users.
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I don't remember hearing about pseudo.com in the 90's. Sounds like an interesting watch though. Fellow lazy FF readers, IMDB page is here: http://www.imdb.com/title...
- Matt Mastracci
I heard what Jason had said about it. Sounds interesting. My wife and I are carefull to just show sides of each other that are respectful. No online fights. :) unfiltered does not always equal authentic
- Christian Burns
It is a movie that makes you think, that is for sure. It is why I resist regular live shoots. I choose the moments when I am on. Being in public is exhausting mentally. At Zappos after interviewing Graham and Tony I was mentally drained. The movie is a must-watch by everyone in the Facebook generation. I wonder what Patrick will think of it.
- Robert Scoble
My first impulse after watching it? To tell you about it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for sharing this, Robert. I'll have to look into this film :)
- Michael Forian
We Die in Private is also a hoot.
- Todd Hoff
I'm sad I didn't get to see it while Calacanis was up here - it was all the rage
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Calacanis is all over the movie. Lots of people I know are. Fred Wilson, for instance.
- Robert Scoble
The trailer makes it look very interesting, I'm waiting for a DVD release.
- 321
Who has the best SEO/SEM info? Post URLs here:
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Google webmaster blog is well-known as reputable: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/
- Matt Cutts
Live has a good webmaster blog too: http://blogs.msdn.com/webmast... Their most recent post about getting out of the penalty box is quite good.
- Matt Cutts
It is important to get back to the basics once in awhile and I am rebuilding my blog from the foundation up, which is why I am asking.
- Robert Scoble
Is SEO/SEM still relevant?
- Mona Nomura
Google also just started a video channel for webmasters: http://www.youtube.com/GoogleW... Over 30+ videos already up to answer common questions.
- Matt Cutts
I'm a big fan on http://www.seobook.com (Aaron Wall) and http://highrankings.com (Jill Whalen)
- Jason Kane
Thanks Matt! Does anyone have a good checklist?
- Robert Scoble
The Yahoo equivalent is the Yahoo! Search blog: http://ysearchblog.com/
- Matt Cutts
I am not shocked that a Google employee was the first to answer this, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
@Mona: ...can you expand on your question? What has made optimizing content and Web sites for search engines less relevant?
- .LAG liked that
The only SEO that has been able to show me actual results is http://NowSourcing.com
- MarkCarras
SEOmoz for sure.
- mjc
@virante.com (http://www.virante.com/seo-too...)
- Mark Traphagen
Mona: yes. Techcrunch tells me 60% of it's traffic comes from search.
- Robert Scoble
http://centuryhouse.net/ upcoming SEO Blog
- Robert Enriquez
This post will open the floodgates. Another vote for SEOMoz here however
- Mo Kargas
Let's see. There's my blog of course: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ . For search news, Search Engine Land is quite comprehensive: http://searchengineland.com/ . I often check Google Blogoscoped http://blogoscoped.com/ or Google Operating System http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/ for other interesting news.
- Matt Cutts
Robert -- while not a one place checklist, visit http://forums.digitalpoint.com/. I've implemented some of their recommendations thus far and I feel like it's already making a difference.
- Aanarav Sareen
I've recently heard Google changed their algorithm, plus with aggregating sites indexing for us (FriendFeed, Facebook, Twitter), there are many outlets and methods of people reaching our media -- that is, if we remember to segregate to keep various audiences interested. ie: staying away from ping.fm like services.
- Mona Nomura
And then there's the HTML documentation that we offer for webmasters: http://google.com/support... plus our help forum http://www.google.com/support...
- Matt Cutts
Thanks, Robert.
- Mona Nomura
I'll let other folks suggest additional outside info. There's everything from Eric Goldman who talks about legal aspects of search http://blog.ericgoldman.org/ to SEO by the Sea http://www.seobythesea.com/ which talks about patents related to SEO/SEM/search. It's a really broad field. It's almost like asking "What are some good sources for information about blogging?" :)
- Matt Cutts
What a timely question Robert :) I'm just studying up on this whole subject for my own site, and didn't really know where to start. Nice
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Yes, another vote for SEOmoz here. This checklist is pretty comprehensive: http://www.seomoz.org/dp...
- Craig Bailey
Must read SEO blog: http://www.thegooglecache.com/
- Mark Traphagen
"Does anyone have a good checklist?" We wrote an SEO beginner's guide at http://googlewebmastercentral.... that I proofread before it went live. You can also do searches like [wordpress seo guide] and there are several good resources in the search results.
- Matt Cutts
Mona, Yes. something like 90% of all traffic starts with a search engine, so unless you are a destination site ,you rely on search to send your traffice. There are times when RSS Subs can be more valuable, like when you are doing loyalty building, but generally NEW users are finding you through a social media or through search. More people are in search than social media..Ergo its still relevant
- Brandon Wirtz
Aanarav, I would recommend some caution regarding Digital Point. Some of the more aggressive stuff that gets pitched in corners of DP can get you in trouble.
- Matt Cutts
I am a fan of Search Engine Guide http://www.searchengineguide.com Great advice and solid writers.
- Ross Dunn
The sites listed here are (mostly) excellent for sure. I'm also kinda partial to the SEO Success Pyramid (since I wrote it). http://www.smallbusinesssem.com/the-seo...
- Matt McGee
I'm adding all these to http://delicious.com/jayneff... thanks! :)
- Jay Neff
This is a MUST read in my opinion: SEOMoz http://www.seomoz.org/article...
- Doug Lawrence
Of course Google is going to be the Dali Lama of SEO but there are many gurus of interest: http://www.searchengineacademysc.com
- Laurel Phelps LaFlamme
Not that I'm biased, but LinkMoses http://www.ericward.com/article... and the Link Building Best Practices QandA http://www.ericward.com/bestpra... are on my must read list.
- Eric Ward
@seomoz great docs, great tools, and a fun and informative blog & community
- Julie Bovee Hill
Interesting how few SEOs seem to hang out on FF. On Twitter this would be a massive swarm of link dropping.
- Matt Cutts
For WordPress I recommend http://www.yoast.com
- Erno Hannink
Matt: this went to Twitter too. I have good PR's on both friendfeed and Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
What about excellent content? Is that still important? I mean, useful material for human beings? Shouldn't that be well ranked by search engines? And of course, a usable and web standards compliant site.
- Alexis Bellido
me
- chaz2b
Thanks Scoble! I've been looking for this info myself, actually.
- Adam C.
http://www.seomoz.org/blog for technical specs on SEO and http://www.seobook.com/blog for business insights in relation to SEO
- Dave Fuentes
Thanks for this list. It finally showed me that value of FriendFeed over Twitter and Facebook. Good answers. Rock on. :-)
- Martin Seibert
I just want to mark this for building43 which I just did with this comment. Oh, I wish I had invisible comments to add metadata/metatags to items like this.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: I never liked delicious. It isn't setup to have a conversation like what happened here.
- Robert Scoble
Leather: when I search friendfeed for building43 I want this post to come up. Here, take a look: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... No need to create another item in delicious.
- Robert Scoble
www.SEOmoz.org, www.SEObook.com , www.SEOquake.com and also www.webpagefx.com is quite useful.
- Hayk H.
As Alexis Bellido says, "a usable and web standards compliant site." I recommend http://www.w3.org for brushing up on the compliance side of things (even if it gets a bit technical). It's the standards by which the web runs, from the horses mouth, so to speak.
- David August
You may want to try #Neil_Patel & his #Quick_Sprout outfit http://www.quicksprout.com/about... See his post: "How to Optimize Your Blog for Search Engines" http://bit.ly/JeXq1 - informative & good free advice. I've been digging into this subject myself for the benefit of a product one of my companies is incubating and this chap and his firm keeps rising to the top of my list. I am also fairly certain that he will advise you for free in return for a good word to your "subjects" ;) @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
This post and more importanly the timeline of the replies are in and of themselves useful as a measure of which SEO/SEOm firms are paying attention online. Not that this is an automatic measure of capability or quality, but you gotta question how good any site is that doesn't link drop on this particular post, be it a self drop or otherwise, given who the author was/is. I*'m, amazed there haven't been more. This might be tell us a thing or two about FF and the SEO community.
- Eric Ward
Just a comment regarding Digital Point, they commonly recommend greyhat/blackhat techniques, and offer lots of stupid stuff for a price. The same advice can be had for free on BlackHatWorld.com. Information wants to be free. ;)
- Lee Ingram
http://www.seobook.com with Aaron I rate highly, digital-point is probably a good place for short term success on splogs but nothing sustainable long term for a proper business.
- Mark Edmondson
If this is about your blog vs SEO in general, that's a bit different. For blog SEO you might try Aaron's lengthy article on SEO for bloggers, http://www.seobook.com/blogger... Joost DeValk's Blog http://www.yoast.com or Matt Cutts favorite commentator: http://www.wolf-howl.com
- Lee Odden
Some of my favorite WordPress SEO recommendations are from Yoast: http://yoast.com/article... - and this is an outstanding presentation on WordPress Blog SEO: http://wordpress.tv/2009...
- Don Campbell
Eric, thanks for your offerings. I think that maybe the lack of SEO people here may be down to the fact that we are all working hard implementing all these techniques for our clients. There are plenty of SEO companies who merely do the work, rather than write down what they are doing and share with the rest. http://dragonsearchmarketing.com/blog... , the shop I work at part time is running really hard right now, with 3 new hires in the last 2 months.
- Mark Zip
As to the reflection on the Ff community, perhaps that is because FF is bleeding edge and most work in the trenches of SEO is being done short of the bleeding edge, where there are more "regular" folks.
- Mark Zip
Just joined StomperNet . Not a plug as I am still new with them (1 Week) http://stomping2.com/ and would like to know how others view them. They provide very detailed info through video. Seem to have an impressive staff on board. They are a paid subscription but think it is worth it so far. Would especially like to hear what Matt Cutts has to say about them. Should I cancel my subsription or not?
- Jonathan
Jonathan: I know some of the StomperNet folks, they are very smart.
- Robert Scoble
It does feel special to be using this service and be so connected in such a varitey of topics. Just tried the similar search (after reading comments on Matt Cutts ff) and did my usual search to see how a system works. http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images... Need to get more non naked pics going :)
- Jonathan
Jonathan, that would be a longer conversation than the FF textbox has room for.
- Matt Cutts
Confidential SEO Secrets Book (down to earth and real). ;-) http://www.allenharkleroad.com/Home...
- Allen Harkleroad
Matt Cutts, should i use them or not? Are they doing harm? I am trying to learn but not move into the black hat.
- Jonathan
Various guys: Seobook, seomoz, www.searchandsocial.com
- gareth【ツ】
Black hat is an attitude.
- gareth【ツ】
Killer SEO / SEM info for Small Businesses http://www.flowtown.com/blog :p
- Ethan Bloch
SEOMoz is good, Seobook is good, I would also recommend WebmasterWorld as well. Supporters area on WebmasterWorld has some of the best minds hanging out there...
- Bill Hartzer
Robert - The most recent article I did on free SEO resources is here: http://anzman.blogspot.com/2009... Hope it helps! Charlie
- Charlie Anzman
Here's a bunch. http://www.seomoz.org, http://www.seobythesea.com, http://www.mattcutts.com, http://www.searchengineland, http://www.searchenginejournal, http://yoast.com, http://www.seobook.com, http://www.seoptimise.com, http://www.thegooglecache.com, http://seo2.0.onreact.com, http://wiep.net and of course http://www.blindfiveyearold.com or look at my delicious bookmarks http://delicious.com/ajkohn2...
- AJ Kohn
I found http://www.waferscale.com as the best website which provides meaningful and easy to understand articles on SEO
- Xelios
now if you have a CIALS site the above would be like a fart in a Gail,not much of an impression.
- tomartomartini
Citysearch: Each Item Shared Through Facebook Connect Generates 30 Clicks - http://www.insidefacebook.com/2009...
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RT @caseorganic: Man from the future is at ad agency of the 50's, telling them about Twitter (very funny pic) http://www.flickr.com/photos...
Mike Shinoda on Criticism and Learning - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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something for the contestants. if any of them are ever gonna be on friendfeed and this room. ;)
- dJ phuturecybersonique
i go for HAN...my vote for you girl...dont care what Paul Moss said to u...its not guilty to become ANOTHER MALAY BALLAD SINGER!! ur voice worth 1 million, insyaAllah Esther also good! ;)
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great show last night! very entertaining! the contestants are really varied too this time around. props to them and the crew for putting together a nice show! looking forward to more!
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2nd ep still "ok"... hope there r more to come. tat grandpa paul still acted soooo mean!!! wats wrong wif tat leopard gal??? agreed tat she nt a gd singer but.... must him gv us tat "kind" of look?? erm.... IIIIIIIIIId*******!!! kick grandpa !!! blek!!
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the production team are raving about episode 4 - saying its the best ever. Even Izam's been on about it..they wont let me watch in advance tho, not fair!
- Paul Moss
Web site created for semantic cloud API - http://news.cnet.com/8301-19...
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20 things about friendfeed http://m.kyte.tv/ch...
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Told you he'd be posting before the hors d'oeuvres were served...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
hor d'oeuvres? where?
- Michael VanDervort
I'm watching your video right now
- sofarsoShawn
Robert, I am unable to watch your video (never been) in kite.tv with GNU/Linux and Flash 10. Although I have no problems in any other video platform.
- Ricardo Galli
It is the first service to bring all our content into one place
- paul mooney
Watching your video. Definitely learning a lot. Much to take in.
- Marty McPadden
This is a great tuturial Robert, I am learning about all kinds of features I never knew about. Too bad Friendfeed doesn't have a video/visual tutorial like this for all the newcomers (albeit more concise for them).
- Brian
Yes - and screencasted, not video of screen.
- Hal
Have they ever come up with a good way to sync my twitter follows as imaginary friends without having to add each individually?
- Hal
Was it just blurry for me or is it blurry for everyone? I think I could have learned way more from it if I could see what you were was doing. Looked like you were doing some cool stuff.
- MarkCarras
awesome job Robert - watching it right now. It's great you're not over the top in describing it's usefulness...rather a sensible overview of it's benefits.
- Zee.
That's great info, Robert. Thank you. Lots of stuff I didn't know.
- Drew
Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Love it Robert, thanks, I learned a lot.
- Ginger Kenney
Great vid. Really showed off some awesome capabilities.
- Joe Brinkman
Robert: Either I'm losing my mind or you're double-clicking on links.
- Chris Luckhardt
Chris: my computer is messed up. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I love FF and have been using it for a few months (though not exclusively), but I still picked up a few powerful tips that I didn't know or understand before. Thanks, Robert!
- Helen Hoefele
Robert did you make this video for Arrington? I hope so, that way he'll start participating more...same goes for Guy Kawasaki too. :)
- Susan Beebe
Nah, just trying to explain the features.
- Robert Scoble
This friendfeed thing confuses me to no end. Maybe I'm just dense, but I've never been able to figure out how to organize things here so that the cool stuff perks to the top, then there's keeping track of things I like or whatever. I hope your vid is damn good cuz it's downloading now over a dialup line. yup, they still haven't fixed my highspeed yet. :-) Edited to put a smiley after that last statement, hehe.
- Eddy Cole
It's a really good introduction to both basic and advanced FriendFeed use. Perhaps more interestingly, helps explain how Robert manages his massive inbound data flow.
- Michael Krigsman
Ross the Friendfeed intern did some tutorials a while back, but FF sure failed to keep up with creating new ones as the feature set (and interface) evolved. Ross's videos here: http://www.vimeo.com/rossmil...
- Mitch
I think that if I knew that I could see all of my twitter activity from within friendfeed, then I would use it in leui of a twitter client - but I don't feel like taking the time to add imaginary friends.
- Hal
What we really need is a "Friendfeed Tour" room which is added by default to ever single new account. It could be moderated by the FF crew and include links to a whole bunch of goodies for new friendfeeders.
- Mitch
Next installment: 20 ways to being a bigger FriendFeed monster than Robert Scoble? =)
- deepikaur
Comprehensive. Needs a screencast treatment instead of pointing vid cam at the screen.
- Tom Landini
This should go on the ff homepage
- Michael Fidler
2009 is the year I start really drinking the FF Koolaid. I started a week early, technically, but then the good resolutions are the ones worth getting ahead of right away. This video was helpful for understanding how to make the most of the service, Robert. I'll be sharing it with others, especially if I slip into the social media rabbit hole that this service can be for many users. As always, thank you for sharing your experience.
- Alex Howard
I find that friendfeed has a lot of passive users. Their activity comes from the aggregation of other media, not from any attention on friendfeed itself. Robert is very active on FF and so gets a lot of immediate conversation going, but many have it set on auto-pilot. I find this is less the case with twitter. Perhaps it will change.
- Marcel LeBrun
Robert, I love the down to earth presentation on this. Very approachable method of video, and informative.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I've been waiting for this video. Good stuff.
- Andrew
Thanks for this - its great to have a practical 'how to' guide.
- Graham Hills
Nice! Didn't really get Friendfeed until now. It would be phenomenal if I could manage and write to everyone of my aggregations via friendfeed. Hate to have 3+ Backends for my Blogs etc
- Sebastian
Robert, I've been using FriendFeed for a while now. Thanks! This was superb.
- Pilgrim Five
"Hide" feature!? I have no "Hide" link under my entries - how did you get one of those?! I want one! I have "Comment", "Like" and "More".
- Isha (Marysia)
Thanks for posting. I never knew that Friendfeed could be so useful. I didn't even know there was a like feature till you pointed it out. I just thought it was another one of those lifestreaming aggregators.
- Thao Ly
Marysia: "Hide" is only available on entries if you are in the home screen. So click on "Home" and now you should see Hide.
- Robert Scoble
"Hide" is available in any list at the top level. For instance, if I create a list called "Tech Bloggers" and add six people to it, "Hide" is visible if I click the Tech Bloggers list on the left side. If I open the reveal triangle and click on one individual's ID, then "Hide" is not available.
- Will King
Thankfully this was a tutorial. I still expect Robert to use a computer nearly as fast as Commander Data.
- Kevykev
Great video Robert. Really enjoyed checking out all the features on FriendFeed. You seem to have it set up really well. I wondered why you didn't use a screencast recording program so we could watch what you were doing on your screen a bit more easily. I don't want that to sound like a criticism though because I really appreciate the effort you went to, recording the vid.
- Paul Richards
I'm bumping this post, because this video is so good. Just sent it to a friend who just signed up to help explain the experience along with the FFundercats Episode 25 podcast. These are great resources. http://www.kyte.tv/scoblei...
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
The genius behind the Google 20% time; It isn’t the time on Dion Almaer's Blog - http://almaer.com/blog...
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"20% time means that sparks of genius can happen. If you copy anything about it, ignore the “time” part, and go with the open culture part."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I wonder if people would understand it better if it were described as 120% time?
- Adewale Oshineye
I've always wondered if the "20% time" was implemented at Google to keep the time spent on pet projects in check (i.e., without it, it may be 40%!), while still allowing creativity & innovation etc.
- Chris Lamprecht
Great Post Paul, thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
- anil madamala
Great post, if i remember correctly, 3M also used the "20% time" to create their biggest innovations years ago. so it doesn't only apply to software development.
- Tal Muskal
Really looking forward to your take on 20% time, Paul.
- Dion Almaer
Gore did that like over 20 years ago, and voilà goreTex was born.....
- denise
@denise: and does Al Gore claim it is his invention? (like Internets are;)
- Jemm
Allowing your people some slack - and enough space - so they can either learn something new now and then or try something new - is certainly something that works in the end for a company (although with online addictions it works less nowadays as slack often disappears in messaging). GoreTex I thought was a very deliberate invention for space and then medical uses, the only "blue sky" bit of it was seeing how it could be used for performance clothing, and I'm not sure that didnt come from outside the company
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Overnight success takes a long time - http://paulbuchheit.blogspot.com/2009...
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Thanks Paul... great post.
- Brian Roy
Most overnight successes take an Alaskan winter.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Great post, Paul. One of the running themes of a lot of the posts yesterday seemed to come from "well, it's been a year: FriendFeed should be in a much different place," but great things take time to do.
- Mark Trapp
Scott Berkun wrote a really fine book entitled "the myths of innovaiton" (http://www.amazon.com/Myths-I...). He points out that perhaps the greatest myth of innovation is that the innovation arrives in it's entirety in a single moment in time. Essentially that the innovation was a single flash of insight and execution. The reality is it comes piecemeal over time.
- Brian Roy
Nice Paul, there are a whole boatload of startup / project myths I wish we could bust. The "overnight success" is one of the worst.
- mikepk
Brain, exactly, and the myth there is the "one idea" that precipitates success drives me crazy too. I wrote a post (and reposted it a few months ago) about this one. http://mikepk.com/2008...
- mikepk
excellent Paul and while I have expressed my thoughts before I just may take you up on the "post your ideas"
- Steven Hodson
Amen!! Peeps tend to see "web celebs," for example, once they're up there ... but no one sees the *years* of hard work prior! I like to say I'm an overnight success 10 years in the making!! :)
- Mari Smith
Another interesting effect is that the VC cycle is predicated on hyper growth and 2 to 5 year return on investment. That helps push some ideas to failure even though, if given a more natural growth curve, they might have succeeded.
- mikepk
+1 Mikepk - VC funding creates a hyper-focus on geometric growth instead of creating a sustainable company... Those two are NOT the same thing.
- Brian Roy
Hyper-growth is dangerous because it forces a lot of short term moves, such as hiring the wrong people because you need them _now_. I suspect that better companies come out of busts than booms because they are able to grow at a reasonable pace.
- Paul Buchheit
Epitome of why I love, trust, and believe in FriendFeed. Classy, Paul and thank you for sharing with the community.
- Mona Nomura
Tell me about it. I got the arrows in my back to prove it. :-)
- Dave Winer
Nice summary, Paul. As I mentioned in a comment on the post, it's clear you understand we care, and that we didn't intend to open the door for those clamoring for you to fail - but it was a natural result.
- Louis Gray
"Once we launched, the response was surprisingly positive, except from the people who hated it for a variety of reasons. "
- Clare Dibble
Although I have a love-hate affair with FriendFeed and my interest periodically peaks and wanes, Confucius says 'never trust a man who wears a beret the wrong way round'.
- Andy C
@Paul - "Yes, technically you're doing my work for me, but it's mutually beneficial because we'll do our best to create a product that you like". Was this supposed to be an indirect response to Dave W asking you to pay him consulting for his ideas?
- kartik vaithyanathan
Paul Buchheit +1
- Duncan Riley
So true. People think that from registering a domain to becoming a millonaire takes 1 idea and a couple of months. It took our company 10-years to do something "successful".
- Martin Añazco
Been around this block a few times myself Paul. There is a pheneomenon out there around second ventures after the first was a winner. Let's have a talk about this over a beer after the outcome of FF is known. And also, I wouldn't necessarily count on the experience of selling a "product" inside a juggernaut like Google as being the same thing as making something work in the blogosphere or where ever it is FF is supposed to be planted.
- Dave Winer
One more thing -- you're a very good writer -- but there's something else that isn't in your post. The odds against all startups are overwhelmingly against them. Ask Ev about Odeo someday. Your post is remarkably like the things he was writing about that product. And like the stuff I was saying after my company's IPO and was starting my second company. Unfortunately this was before blogs, so you'll have to take my word for it. I didn't really consider the possibility of failure. And of course we did fail.
- Dave Winer
at least 24 hrs... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Great post Paul. Too many companies (see Webvan and slew of others) thought rapid growth was enough. But good businesses grow slowly, even on the Internet.
- AJ Kohn
Nice post and great perspective. Nice position to be able to compare your own gmail experience to your FF experience.
- Bankwatch
Here's Joel Spolsky talking about the same thing: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/article...
- Piaw Na
The comments on your blog are awesome, e.g. "Gmail would be a lot better if it allowed registration of usernames < 6 characters wide." Proposed reply, "Oh, you can, but every single one has already been taken"
- j1m
I commented in the post, but I saw a comment in FriendFeed that noted how another well-known service had a well-executed marketing introduction, followed by rapid growth, followed by severe technical failures. Not to imply that one growth model is always right and another one is always wrong (plus, that company solved its technical issues).
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Paul, keep up the good fight to properly manage FF for optimal growth, scalability and integration of features. Rushed products typically fail. However, a healthy burn rate is good too. Release timely updates in response to user demand. There are some important UIX features that should be released soon as users are clamoring for ease of use features and FF could risk losing more users if these basic UI features are not implemented within a reasonable amount of time. Good Luck! :)
- Susan Beebe
I commented over at the post. Really nice entry, with great perspective.
- Martha
Paul: I've read this post three times and it's a work of art. Thank you and thank you for creating a service that has addicted me for almost a year now.
- Robert Scoble
Not to one up Scoble, but it's the service itself that is the work of art.
- Jim Addz No Value
i appreciate this blended perspective. today i am dealing with the often elusive "balancing" objective, i.e., what is an acceptable pace towards those "goals posts", while honoring the organic nature of the quest!
- Gregg
+2 Paul
- Varun Mahajan
Paul, FriendFeed just rocks... It's already great today...
- Aad 't Hart
Impressed with the loyalty I see many have for Friendfeed.
- Scott M Iseman
Nice stuff.... some great comments etc.. thanks to mona for pointing me to it. :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Paul's piece got reprinted at All Things D. Nice exposure: http://voices.allthingsd.com/2009010...
- Louis Gray
Paul, I think FriendFeed is the best thing that I saw in 2008 on the web. It is still rough and needs to figure out how to best reel in the casual user, but there is so much promise in this service. The core of it is so powerful really and you guys are months if not years ahead of anyone else working in this area right now. Good luck to you and your team!
- Thomas Hawk
+1 Thomas! Couldn't agree more... keep up great work FF team!! :)
- Susan Beebe
Overnight success takes a long time - http://news.ycombinator.com/item...
"The "blog" service only asks for the blog url and does not even mention RSS (we look for the appropriate link tag on the page). I've also just added the feature that Bruce requested, so you should be able to add a "Add this blog to FriendFeed" link to all of your blogs which prefills the url box and directs them back to your site after it is added on FriendFeed. Let me know if you encounter any problems."
- Paul Buchheit
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