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Are we all ready for Google Chrome OS?
Daniel Rowley, Harold, Roberto Bonini and 7 other people liked this
Yes please! Chrome for me. My head is in the clouds.
- Paul Puri
Personally yes, but it will be YEARS until enterprise is willing to unclench and try a new OS.
- Ciaoenrico
ionly hope that it will be very fast on 64 bits pcs with optimized libs and stuff not just 64 bits compilations pls pls :p
- Özgür D. Cyric
from iPhone
yes if you live in california...
- Luigi Centenaro
Only good if you've got a halfway decent broadband connect.
- Alastair Montgomery
Let's try it. :)
- Smeerch
I don't think so....1.We do not need more internet time....2.I'd rather use a smart phone
- kang
Who else out there dislikes the use of "preso" as an abbreviation for "presentation"?
Joel Webber, ffcode, Charlotte M and 33 other people liked this
I hate it. Similarly, I hate "pressie" for "present".
- Rochelle
Yeah, but you are not liberal...pffttt ;)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
ew. that happens?? ick.
- pea
Haven't heard it before, but yuck, don't like it.
- Cassandra
Never heard that before. People around here usually just call it a "Powerpoint" ;)
- Jan Ole Peek
Yeah, Pea...unfortunately, it does
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Me.
- Trish R
Have I told you guys lately how much I <3 you?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I think that calling a presentation a "preso" is grounds for a good old fashioned punch in the jaw. Thats gotta be in the law books somewhere.
- Joe Pierce
ugh. preso. that's right up there with friggin' "webinar"
- holly
Never heard of it before, but it ranks up there on the lame meter with 'frisco' as an abbreviation for San Francisco.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I've never cared for using Prego as an abbreviation for spaghetti sauce
- Davis Freeberg
Ouch, Jeff
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I've never heard "preso" for "presentation" only for 'press conferences' and only then when we were setting one up. We also used 'presser' and the younger *girls* used 'pressie'.
- Admiral Anika
And now you have
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Looks like the first half of the George Bush version of the word.
- Paul Puri
I do ! plus i also cant stand some colleagues who are from across the pond calling it preeesentation when it really should be presentation
- viki saigal
ugh, ahh (head banging on desk)
- Kim Landwehr
Don't forget "doco" or "docco"? for "documentation". GRRRR.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
I can understand using it on Twitter, where characters are so precious. Would hate hearing it spoken though. Nasty.
- Laura Norvig
Doco? Who the heck says that? Doc is the correct abbreviation for documentation.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I don't even know about this lingo until you mentioned it here. My opinion: dislike!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I'm with Alex on 'Doc' versus doco, although I do like (and use - please don't hate me, or if you do, do it right) deets for details, as in 'send me the deets on the shindig, so I know where to go.'
- Cassandra
Sometimes when I talk to people like that, I make up abbreviations just to throw them off. i.e. DNL for "do not like"
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Never heard it before, hope never again. Awful.
- Lo
I haven't heard it before, but I cringe just thinking about it.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
"Preso"? First time I've heard that abbreviation. When I say it out loud, it sounds really stupid.
- Jason Huebel
Never heard it before.....think I'd laugh if I did....
- Bonnie Foster
Laura is on to something.. I have mostly seen it used since Twitter and by users
- Holly Rae
I've written it, and most likely, mostly on Twitter. I don't think I actually say it though. I do think it would sound lame. God, I hope I don't say it.
- Lynne d Johnson
++++ although I also despise calling them "decks" ugh
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco, YES. I was going to mention that too. decks/slidedecks - no.
- holly
Ohh you guys would hate living in Australia :)
- Mo Kargas
Meeeeeee! Also convo for conversation. I don't mind deck for PowerPoint. I don't know that I'd understand deets for details, and i'm aware that probably I'm the only one who uses capes for capabilities.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Never heard it ... must be one of those 'west coast' things ... :)
- Charlie Anzman
Here's how it goes: docu (for documentary) slide deck (for preso) cap (for capability) 'za (for pizza)
- Jim Norris
You could make a crisp hundo for making a decent preso.
- Josh Haley
I don't even like the real word pesto, let alone preso (for the record).
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
P.S. I despise "totes" also. Really? You can't spare 2 more syllables or 2 more characters to say "totally" (which, itself, is a desecration of the English language) ...?
- Laura Norvig
and lappy for laptop
- ffcode
calC for calculator
- ffcode
Truly, Alex, "preso" is an abomination unto the Lord. It may even be the abomination that brings desolation! :-)
- Ladybug Heather
Louis Gray blames Facebook for not telling him his sister had a baby : Shiny Shiny - http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2009...
Anne Bouey, Stuart Miniman, Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF and 5 other people liked this
"A-list geek and FriendFeeder Louis Gray has blamed Facebook for not telling him that his sister had had a baby. Relying on Facebook rather than the telephone to get news out to friends and family, his sister and her partner had updated their status all the way through the labour and the birth. Unfortunately thanks to Facebook's news filter it didn't quite work as they hoped."
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Ha ha ha. :)
- Louis Gray
How about we turn SMS updates on for those important to us... Mmmkay? ;^)
- Paul Puri
Nah. I don't want random photos from my sister. :) Oh wait.
- Louis Gray
Yes! Get 'em! Get 'em! Stupid Facebook...
- Ciaoenrico
When you are very interested in possible breaking news that may be published on a particular page, that's when you set opening that page as a scheduled task if you are too busy to remember to check it. If you knew she was in labor, you should have had that wall page set to open every 10-15 minutes and not have relied upon the news page. Another solution would be if Facebook just gave us...
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- April Russo (app103)
April, I knew she was expecting. I didn't know she was in labor. :)
- Louis Gray
Still, I don't think facebook failed you. I believe you (and your family) had some unrealistic expectations.
- April Russo (app103)
I keep it on the live feed and not the news one. And I have a separate list with those most important to me. So between the live, SMS, and custom page, I can keep track of what I need to. Socializing is not a passive act ;^)
- Paul Puri
Thus far, my FriendFeed is extremely optimized. It looks like I should be optimizing my Facebook now as well. (sigh)
- Louis Gray
Live and learn :^) Remember. You can lead a horse to water. But that does not make him a duck.
- Paul Puri
My sister responds: "All of this stuff is way way way too funny. I am sorry that no one called you, but, to be honest, no one called anyone. After I went into labor, my mind was only on that. It is very primal as I am sure that you remember. Now I am offending people because I am not returning phone calls in a timely manner, but, you know what? I can't use the phone in the NICU... which...
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- Louis Gray
*POKE*
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Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ, Josh Haley, rowlikeagirl and 22 other people liked this
This battle will only end when Facebook removes the poke feature. I will not relent!
- Louis Gray
*Johnny returns serve down the base line*
- Johnny Worthington
Yawns at your weak attempt.
- Louis Gray
The first thing I use to do when I woke up was check FriendFeed... now it's Facebook for a Gray Poke
- Johnny Worthington
But I do agree... This will only end when Facebook ends...
- Johnny Worthington
Your move, Mr. Worthington.
- Louis Gray
See... I'm keeping it real... Everyone knows you just hired Holden to monitor your Poke Status... MY POKING KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT!!
- Johnny Worthington
Poke'll haunt us.
- Spidra Webster
Johnny, you won't win this. Not even if you hired a whole team of Holdens.
- Louis Gray
I don't need to...
- Johnny Worthington
Meh. You poke like the offspring of a colony full of convicts. Try harder.
- Louis Gray
You poke like a dairy farmer...
- Johnny Worthington
So you're saying I'm good with my hands. Poke.
- Louis Gray
Rachael's going out tonight, G is almost asleep and it's only 7pm... I can go all night... RETURN POKE
- Johnny Worthington
x=1000 while [ $x -gt 0 ] do poke x=$(($x-1)) done
- Louis Gray
Take your fancy-pants typing elsewhere Gray... I'm poking you over here!!!
- Johnny Worthington
You guys are entertaining ;-)
- BeeLing
Johnny is a slowpoke. (See what I did there?)
- Louis Gray
This is all a pique in a poke.
- Spidra Webster
I just poked the BOTH of you! I'M A MADMAN AND MUST BE STOPPED
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
You are a brave man Louis.
- aden
:*( cries. You never poke me.
- pea
Johnny, you returned serve *down the line,* just inside the alley. The ball landed just inside the baseline at the other end of the court - staying in, for the set and match. The crowd went wild. All that remains for a sweep of the tourney is for you and Haley to meet Gray and Scoble in the doubles final.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
I think Johnny forfeited.
- Louis Gray
You two are worse than pigs in a poke *snicker* Personally, I have no job and no current prospects: I can poke you both till the cows come home. Wait, that didn't sound right....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
WAAAY too much poking going on here.
- Paul Puri
Wow. I wouldn't dare poke with that menacing presence looking at me!
- Martha
I apologize in advance and retroactively for offending anyone with my opinions/rantings/facts about consumer electronics. I calls them as I sees them, don't pull punches and have very little tact when talking about the subject...Also you should know that I'm hella argumentative (although if you don't already know this, where have you been hiding?)
rowlikeagirl, Kol Tregaskes, Dan Morrill AKA Techwag and 14 other people liked this
Don't expect me to withhold opinions/facts/rantings for fear of offending people...it's not how I roll. Sorry if it happens.
- Alex Scoble
I wouldn't want it any other way!
- Paul Puri
Have we ever wanted an apology from you for your opinion...Well me no...I always look forward to your opinion..
- Bill Heslin
I'm definitely not offended, in fact I was thinking of asking your advice next time I'm buying consumer electronics :D
- Mo Kargas
Heh yeah, Mo, I think this is more coming from the dustup with jcunwired that I had this week, although he can't read it because we've blocked each other...Then again he's still wrong, so maybe this isn't for him either :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Bah, don't understand why people always get offended when opinions collide, for me it's a learning experience
- Mo Kargas
But yeah, if you ever want advice, you know where to reach me
- Alex Scoble
I think with him he was more annoyed that I seem to have a "following" when my observations completely clashed with his worldview. And why I'm still talking about it, is a mystery to me...still working out the funk from that thread I guess.
- Alex Scoble
You had me at "... Very little tact..."
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
Hehe, Mark
- Alex Scoble
You've got pretty discriminating tastes and the $ to act on 'em. If I wanna know the tiniest imperfections of a particular display tech I know who to talk to: Alex :). Not offended at all
- LANjackal
Well, for what it's worth, reviews with no voice + no opinions are boring. Ranting is good! Kudos!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
LE, I also help people on a budget too at least with the web research part...I'd love to have more experiental knowledge, but it's very difficult and time consuming to do that...not to mention expensive to do it well and I haven't won the lottery yet :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And the blogs and what not that are set up to review a lot of sets seem to lose focus because of who's paying their bills. I understand wanting to make money, however, when it causes you to not disclose all issues with a product, that's bad. You might as well not review anything at that point, because you have no credibility after that.
- Alex Scoble
Like I said before, you should be the @garyvee of consumer electronics. There's a niche.
- Steve
Hehe, well any consumer electronics companies can feel free to send me stuff to review, they should just expect to get the bitter with the sweet.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
No clue what this is about, but that's never stopped me before. Never offended by an intelligent opinion being express, besides with Scoble as a last name expressing an opinion is a given
- Kim Landwehr
from iPhone
ROFL, Kim...that much is true.
- Alex Scoble
"Is this the right room for an argument?"
- Baard @ Pixum
"No, I'm sorry, this is abuse." :)
- Eivind
Never apologise for having an opinion, even if that opinion offends someone.
- Slappy Line
Cool - thanks Alex - apology well - accepted cheers/r/d/
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Re: iDon’t Care: Video Spoofs Motorola Droid’s Anti-iPhone Ad - http://mashable.com/2009...
"i....oops? Seems like it is putting down the fanboy/girl mentality. If this is a pro Apple ad, it does a piss poor job."
- Paul Puri
Re: What Seinfeld can teach you about social media - http://www.christopherspenn.com/2009...
"Hope you had a great B-day! This is a perfect reference. Even though his show was billed as 'about nothing', it was about real life. Getting lost in the parking garage? So done that. Stuck in line for a movie or restaurant? Did it. It was about life and humanity. Universals!! Spot on Chris."
- Paul Puri
Re: World of Goo’s Pay What You Want Game Pricing: “Huge Success” - http://mashable.com/2009...
"I payed $5 for the first copy for my laptop, and then $1 for my friend so she could play it on Linux. This caused her to buy it for another friend, who then did the same for someone else. i will probably buy another copy for my desktop. So my initial purchase created at least 4 new customers. By the way, thanks a lot for the huge time suckage 2DBOY!!!"
- Paul Puri
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Best Football Movie Ever
- Matthew DeVries
With the possible exception of Catch-22...
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Do you like movies about gladiators?
- Paul Puri
Re: MorganHillTimes.com | Gilroy police briefs: Man attacked in predawn hours, 'childhood dispute' settled in park - http://www.morganhilltimes.com/news...
"You lost me at the whole 'God, I wish Mexicans were decent people'. I can tell you with certainty that God does not agree with your viewpoints and wishes you would not mention him in your posts. He is looking forward to your time in purgatory, and is going to unplug your internets. He also wanted to let you know that I was made in his image, which means he is half Mexican, half Indian, and all Californian."
- Paul Puri
OMFGWTFBBQ! Cassie has never seen any of the Karate Kid movies!!!!!!!!!! OMFGWTFBBQ!
Carmen, Josh Haley, Rafael and 21 other people liked this
I don't think Rochelle has either. Of course, I don't think any but the first are worth watching.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Shhh!! Josh haley is subscriibed to you!!!!
- directeur
GET UP ALEX SAN... MOVE TO NETFLICKS FASTER!!! ALWAYS LOOK HI(DEF)
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Blasphemy, Akiva...the 2nd was very good too.
- Alex Scoble
The first and second were really good. The rest of them never happened. A pure and simple myth.
- Paul Puri
I liked "The Next Karate Kid"
- Alex Scoble
And just to confirm, the first two are streaming on Netflix.
- Paul Puri
best clip of all time - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Allen Stern
WHAT THE HELL.
- Mike Nayyar
Alex, I haven't either *sob*
- Helen Sventitsky
Neither have I, and damn proud of it :P
- Rene Wirtz
You just don't know what you're missing if you haven't at least seen the first Karate Kid movie.
- imabonehead
Err, nothing? *grin*
- Rene Wirtz
put em in a body bag
- chrisofspades
I haven't, either. I might get around to them finally soon.
- Kamilah Gill
I blame poor parenting. And Bush.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Obviously, she's all wrong for you, Alex. :D
- Steven Perez
I heard will smith's son will be the new Karate Kid and the new Mr Miyagi .... Jacky Chan.
- Remo
sorry to interrupt you guys, but how many Karate Kid movies have been produced (and hopefully released) so far? I watched the first and it was ok... perhaps someone refused to translate them into italian (thank god!) ;-) ciao guys
- Lui(gi) ►►
4 movies i think, Karate Kid 1 2 and 3 and 1 with a girl. Then there is this new one but dunno or production has started or that was just talks.
- Remo
@Remo > thank u very much! now I know what to ask Santa 4 xmas ;-)
- Lui(gi) ►►
So obviously she can't show you wax-on wax-off?
- Chris Greene
Or paint the fence!
- Alex Scoble
from IM
No, I haven't seen them.
- Rochelle
Wax on, wax off...grasshoppa!
- imabonehead
This will probably be a very unpopular opinion to many, but you cannot do anything under the auspices of religion and expect your acts to be accepted as a rational. The cat god is not pleased with you whenever you do so...not at all.
Joe Pierce, Jimminy Fuller, rowlikeagirl and 22 other people liked this
God just called. She'd be pissed at you, Alex, but after that spaghetti incident when you were 8, she expects no better from you.
- Steven Perez
The cat god she doesn't get mad, Steven, ever.
- Alex Scoble
Cat god? ... Oh, that god. She's a great joker when it comes to humans. She thinks we're her pets.
- Steven Perez
from IM
And she is often right.
- Alex Scoble
Bast loves to lie to us, though. Just saying.
- Steven Perez
from IM
LOL, indeed.
- Alex Scoble
LOL at assigning the human being to rationality. Are those who do not practice religion acting any more rationally than those that do? Nope.
- Mo Kargas
Rational? :) Euclidean geometry was once called rational, you know... and then one day, people knew about hyperbolic and elliptic geometries. And even if this may seem laughable, I'd say that the way most people think that religion is absurd, nowadays, is the Euclidean way.
- directeur
Yes, rational. Doing something because it makes the most sense for all of humanity, not because it feels good. A great deal of the populace doesn't even bother trying to be rational anymore and it's going to be the death of all of us.
- Alex Scoble
So you don't think that it could be rational to choose one's own religion? in other words, being atheist is the only way to be rational?
- directeur
Again, not confined to religion. Why do people feel the need to buy, buy, buy? Not rational to hoard material when half the world is starving.
- Mo Kargas
No, actually I don't think that being an atheist is rational either. The only rational conclusion that one can make about the universe is that it's possible that there may be a god or gods, but since none is rightfully forthcoming with evidence of their existence, it is rational to think that none may exist at all. Agnosticism is therefore the only rational approach to the question. And certainly to make others live through your own vision of the universe is completely irrational.
- Alex Scoble
When you force people to live as you live because you think it is ordained by some god, that's irrational and shouldn't be condoned. Particularly when it is children under your care.
- Alex Scoble
@Alex That works, only if you believe the sum-total of human existence and the universe is or should be rational. It's an absolute in itself. Not sure if I can agree.
- Mo Kargas
Alex, we're just using your basic senses. and our physical dimensions and age are so little compared to the size andthe age of this universe. The religion, as I know it, is something YOU choose for YOURSELF, it's not something that dad or mom gives you. It's, IMVHO, the result of a humble research you do for yourself by yourself
- directeur
That's not how I see religion being pushed in the world. For every person like you or me that thinks it should be live and let live there are 10 George Bushes and Ayotollas who think that everyone should should think and act as they think their god restricts. And yes, I did just compare George Bush and the Ayatollas of Iraq and it's a fitting comparison.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Belief is the death of intellect. - Robert Anton Wilson
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad, I can post quotes by other scientists/celebs too that say the opposite;-) Nah, what I mean is that this should be a personal choice, I mean no savant quote can tell me how to think about God.
- directeur
And when those personal choices affect the lives of others?
- Alex Scoble
Alex, how? You're talking about what exactly?
- directeur
I totally think that religion should be a free choice. I just think that some choices are contrary to freedom, free thought, intelligence, etc. Depending on your choice, your mileage my vary.
- Chrimmus Tad
Tad, that's exactly what I'm saying :)
- directeur
I was wondering why I smelled all that cat pee around my bushes in the morning. Please tell the cat god to STOP IT!!!
- Bill Heslin
So, if rain isn't God crying, it's the cat ______?
- Katy S
Not choosing is the only choice. Wh.. what!?!?
- Paul Puri
Another of my favorite Robert Anton Wilson quotes is, "The moment that dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases." I've found in my own personal experience that this one seems to be pretty accurate.
- Chrimmus Tad
Fun fact: The traditional Catholic definition of a human being is, in its entirety, "A rational animal", only in Latin.
- Alex Scrivener
Heh, that is interesting
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I love philosophical discussions.
- Nick Humphries
Know what? I deleted/edited this cause you're way too nice for one my snarky remarks... You ROCK Alex.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
+1 kajillion to Mo Kargas on his comment about humans being inherently irrational. We're not robots (unlike Mo).
- Jason Huebel
I'd say that we are neither rational nor irrational. That we exist in sort of a hybrid state being both thinking and doing beings at the same time. Although you could argue that rational thought is an illusion. The point of this thread is that if you say something like "I do X because the bible says that's what I should do" don't be surprised when I call you irrational.
- Alex Scoble
So technically, being imbued with this wonderful dualism, acting rational or irrational doesn't matter. The implicit insinuation in this thread is, religious views on some aspects of life are automatically irrational. I think you'll find that - it may be the case - but definitely isn't always. There are often rational components inside religious edicts. At the end of the day, people who...
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- Mo Kargas
Thank God I'm Buddhist.
- Uncle CW™
Mo, if you want to be irrational in your tolerance go do it in another thread. ;)
- Alex Scoble
?
- Mo Kargas
LOL, Mo...Just joking. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Life's too serious to take this thread too seriously.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
You better be joking or..*reads religious edict* or you get tickled with 10,000 honey coated feathers
- Mo Kargas
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Alex is a kitteh?
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Best thread in a long time. +++++++ Alex, Mo and the cat gods.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
People who spread fear and ignorance about 9/11 won't be allowed on my feed. I have no time for that sort of nonsense.
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ROFL - you mean you don't want to hear my new theory?!
- Joe
As long as it's not an ignorant theory, by all means, let's hear it...on second thought, I'd rather not get in to it. :)
- Alex Scoble
Agreed, Alex. Enough of that shit.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
lol
- Joe
Well I am saving mine for my upcoming book anyways.
- Joe
LOL OK.
- Alex Scoble
Now what about other conspiracies? Yes or No on your feed?
- Joe
Ha! I just saw that. He came out of nowhere with that.
- Katy S
As long as they aren't complete batshit insane, feel free...oh and it helps if they aren't completely off topic.
- Alex Scoble
NO ON PROP 8. Wait, what?
- Derrick
Speaking of off topics...
- Uncle CW™
Alien bases on the Dark Side of the Moon? http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-...
- bcultral
Loch Ness Monster (I'm old school)?
- Katy S
Howard Hughes living with Bigfoot at area 51? (the topic for my next book)
- Joe
The 9/11 conspiracy theory is no more plausible than the Kennedy single-bullet theory. Wut?
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
Christianity is actually worshiping the Sun God Ra.
- Uncle CW™
fracken A-men CIA
- Robert Higgins
and Jerry Garcia was CIA!
- Joe
And yes, Elvis is living in Kalamazoo and works at a KFC.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from fftogo
and People who spread courage and clarity about 9/11? (Govt not Included:()
- bcultral
Alex Scoble and Chris White are the same person.
- Uncle CW™
+CW...funny stuff...
- bcultral
Somebody call the Sun God Rah?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Yes Rahsheen, they conjured you!
- bcultral
I guess the real question is what's considered fear and ignorance about 9/11. Are we referring to the people that say it was Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Al Qaeda and that we were absolutely right in decimating Iraq, or are we talking about the people that think the U.S. Gov't was either involved or complicit in the attacks?
- Curtiss Grymala
You seem quite ignorant.
- bill giltner
It's heating up....let's get it out there....let's singularize the double mind....Inside Job or Not?
- bcultral
ROFL, Rah.
- Alex Scoble
Honestly, the only facts about 9/11 that matter to me are that people died and it shouldn't have happened. I don't think we know the whole WHY behind it and I don't think we ever will, but I also don't think it matters given the fact that all those people are still dead.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Well said, Rah.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
and the next time? Mourn over the loss and accept the cause?...hmmm
- bcultral
How are you going to prevent the next time? (someone stop me if this convo has happened already...LOL)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
You need to read "The Black Swan."
- Mistletoe Glen
Yeah, you might as well be asking for the truth on what happened during Katrina. Bad stuff happens. You can't prevent it. Some people don't want to feel that they are powerless and that stuff happens just because, but that's just the way it is a lot of the time.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Santa was just a big tweaker who gave everyone shrooms
- Rodfather
Most Widespead and pernicious Propaganda there is: "That's the way it is. That's the way it will always be. Nothing can change it. It will never change no matter what anyone knows. learns, says or tries." i.e. "Resistance is futile." Join the Borg.
- Marg Uerite
Umm yeah, except knowing exactly what happened on 911 won't set you free...and you'll never know what happened beyond what we already know...the evidence is pretty clear about that :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Look Closer.
- Marg Uerite
No...YOU look closer. The truth is already there and it's a lot less complicated than you make it out to be, because that's how life works.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Spent over 10K hours on it. I'd take you on in a debate any day.
- Marg Uerite
That makes you batshit crazy insane and earns you a block...have a nice day
- Alex Scoble
from IM
What part of "I don't have time for insanity" do people not get?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
All will be allowed on my feed. Because I believe in uncensorship and I believe that it's only by respecting even the most extreme speech (no matter how wrong) that all speech is ensured protection.
- Thomas Hawk
Sorry, but I don't have time or energy for nonsense, but apparently Thomas does, which is cool, because we get to use the tools as we see fit.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
What a weird post. "I don't have time or energy for the subject of this thread, and if you disagree I'll block you". I guess you just didn't feel you had clicked "block" enough recently?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Nonsense can be a nuisance, but I think it's a small price to pay to ensure freedom of expression for all. That each of us can use our tools as we see fit is a nice thing indeed.
- Thomas Hawk
I didn't say if you disagree I'll block you. I said if you spread batshit crazy insanity I'll block you.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
And yes, this is a great way to figure out who to block.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
10,000 hours? That's OK. Cancer didn't need to be cured anytime soon.
- Steven Perez
Alex, can you give me a list of the kind of nonsense you do have time for?
- Matthew DeVries
The kind that doesn't piss me off :) LOLcats, fast cars, funny jokes, general witicisms
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I found a corollary to Shroedinger's theories. I discovered you can simultaneously piss on and piss off a cat.
- Matthew DeVries
Well, Alex; it's like mom used to say: better to be pissed-off than pissed on...
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I can haz conspeericy theeries?
- Paul Puri
I haven't blocked anyone yet over truther nonsense although those posts get hidden quick. In fact, you have to really go out of your way to earn a personal block from me.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Audrey on the other hand, she's been blocked.
- Matthew DeVries
The funny thing is, I actually know people havew blocked Audrey.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Why would anyone block Audrey?
- Alex Scoble
from IM
She's always speaking in the third person. Annoying.
- Ken Sheppardson
ROFL
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Babby Haters, they don't like that a cute baby can have more followers than themselves obviously.
- Jimminy Fuller
Yep, that must be it. :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
a fine line, mon vieux.
- Anthony Citrano
I disagree...the line you have to cross over to get to batshit insane crazy is quite easy to distinguish.
- Alex Scoble
nono i mean the line between insulating oneself from scary ideas which might enhance one's perspective - and just plain old avoiding idiots.
- Anthony Citrano
Yeah, that line looks pretty fat to me, Anthony. :) At least in this instance.
- Alex Scoble
Alex: all great truths begin as blasphemies. [With a nod to George Bernard Shaw, o'course.]
- Anthony Citrano
But not all blasphemies become great truths.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
fair enough!
- Anthony Citrano
PWND!!! (By my vacuum)
That sucks.
- Paul Puri
I'll be speaking at the Twitter Conference about Tips and Tricks at 10:15am. Yesterday I had to follow the comedy panel, and today I have to follow Tony Robbins! Bad scheduling, lol. http://www.ustream.tv/channel...
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At least the audience will be motivated...
- Thomas
How rude! I could understand if it was Steve Jobs, though...
- Jason Wong
I guess they were too motivated...
- Thomas
I think you mean you're Audi 5000.
- Paul Reynolds
That sucks, sorry Veronica!
- Fee501st
Sorry to know that it was canceled. I would have miss it in any case. Can't watch from work.
- Sylvain Nadeau
Oh, you just wait until tomorrow's Tekzilla!
- Veronica
heh heh heh :)
- Fee501st
That sucks! How good can he be if it takes him so long to motivate people?
- Paul Puri
Veronica, I was able to watch the Social Gaming Panel and I thought you were really good. I wish I was this knowledgeable.
- Sylvain Nadeau
Thanks Sylvain, glad you liked it!
- Veronica
Sylvain: cool, where this at?
- Fee501st
Fee: I was watching the live stream on Ustream. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that any of Tuesday's panels were recorded.
- Sylvain Nadeau
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dammit kevin!
- wyliesau
I have one thing to say to you. Why? #WillNotBeAbleToSleep4AWeek
- Sofia @ SoMaFusion
Why Rose!? WHY!!!!???
- Michael King
What did I just see? Can it be taken back?
- Paul Puri
KEVIN!!!!!!!!!!! Go to your room!!!!
- Molly, "sorry"
what the hell?
- Adam Jackson
Hey, check out the guy's other videos too: http://www.youtube.com/user...
- Otto
What the...? Really?
- Chris Schneider
what a freak show
- Allen Eskelin
jesus.
- Will Sloan
ook ook OOK OOK OOK ook ook... http://ihnatko.posterous.com/ook-ook...
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ARRR!!!! You be a monkey!!
- Paul Puri
The new Google Chrome rocks. Freaking fast. Noticeably faster. Now up for testing? @threadsy
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It's been very slow for me the last two days (I just installed the latest). Page loads are slower than IE7 for me.
- t i n y m
definetely slower on my test machines... it's faster than version 2 alright, but still too slow. now we're [the company I work for] considering not to support it internally. Version 1 and betas were lot faster.
- Özgür D. Cyric
Really? Seems a lot faster here. Must do more testing.
- Robert Scoble
Always liked it, but still no plugins. It's still JUST a browser.
- Paul Puri
don't change from Firefox and Opera to Chrome, missing nothing...
- Ronald
It has extensions, I'm using an ad blocking extension and it is every bit as good as Firefox.
- Kenton
Where can I find the Greasemonkey extension. How about my Xmarks bookmarks sync and Lastpass password sync?
- Paul Puri
Kenton, do you have a link to the adblock extension?
- David
The only one I found is http://www.adsweep.org/ but it's been discontinued. And anyway it was nowhere near as effective as AdBlock Plus is.
- Otto
I started using Chrome because I thought I needed those extra microseconds. But then I realized I lost a lot more. Productivity is not about speed but about agility. FireFox gives me the tools I need all in one place. Chrome gives me...... well.... really there is nothing improved by Chrome. It starts faster? It surfs faster? It runs certain web apps faster? Is it all about speed? I say no.
- Paul Puri
I love Chrome. I've used it exclusively since it released a year ago.
- Al Stevens
Chrome is the best browser there is.
- Tomy Thomson
But why is it the best for you? I keep hearing all these praises, but no rational behind it. I thought it was the best as well, until I asked myself what it does for me that Firefox didn't. The answer? Nothing. It does nothing for me except run slightly faster. Memory management is not that great. It has no decent plugs to right home about. Of course, it is still young in the OS war games. Maybe in a year or two that will change.
- Paul Puri
For me: It's fast. Subjectively speaking, rendering is way faster than Firefox, and the UI is more responsive than Safari. The latest iterations successfully quarantines Flash from taking down the whole browser. It doesn't memory hogging features that I never use. Obviously, YMMV.
- Victor Ganata
I don't seem to have the same problems other people do with Firefox. Maybe because I keep my systems clean and focused. If Chrome had the few features I needed from FireFox, then it would be fantastic. If all you need is a browser, than Chrome is an excellent choice.
- Paul Puri
IMO, Firefox has never been very good in Mac OS X from the start. I've always liked Camino much better. Firefox is a much better experience in Windows. (I'm using it right now.)
- Victor Ganata
Not to mention that Windows has always been a better experience for me than OSX. But that is another discussion. LOL.
- Paul Puri
I'm finding the latest build a little sluggish and buggy. Weird rendering issues and poorer performance with Flash sites.
- Andrew Smith
Until I can get Adblock, Xmarks, and LastPass, it's a no go for me.
- Matt
@Matt EXACTLY!
- Paul Puri
It doesn't seem fast to me, plus I just don't like it.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Chrome is the fastest browser, Firefox 3.5 comes close but nothing more than close. I don't care for plug-ins or extensions, i am all for speed. Chrome is my default browser since it came out, at home and at the office. Plus i like the GUI. No buttons, menu's, status bar etc. Just a clear and clean window to show web pages.
- Nik
Nik, that's the way I felt about it at first. But after awhile, the simplicity became more of a burden. I visit a minimum of 10 password protected sites a day and have those open in tabs. I open Firefox, login with my main password on Lastpass, hit favorites, and boom. Within 10 seconds of starting up I have all my favorite sites open and logged in. Now that's fast.
- Paul Puri
Thankfully, Chromium.app works with the normal Keychain mechanism in OS X. Unfortunately, that doesn't help anyone on Windows.
- Victor Ganata
I love Chrome, that is all :)
- Susan Beebe
Chrome is my preferred browser for my typical web activities.
- Jim Turner
I like using chrome on one of my machines because it is very quick in startup and generally fast on that Athlon 2000 machine. And that was the previous release.
- Michele Costabile
I've been using Chrome for the past few months and love it. The latest update is welcomed and noticeable. I'm not sure what people are running when they say the browser is sluggish, but on all the computers I use... I have yet to find one that runs Chrome sluggish. People that mention extensions... I never really used them. However, extensions are available on Chrome through the dev...
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- Jason Hansen
Crome 2 messed up my hdmi 3rd monitor but ver 3 is fixed. it's still to slim on extras that I lovee in FF. I hd to go back to 3.0.0.13 to get the full functionality . I found an extension called "vacumn places improved" which sped firefox up to chromes speed. unbelievable. I wis I had found that addon years ago. Firefox is finally Firefox!
- earl wallace
from twhirl
For those looking for extensions and user scripts - http://www.chromeplugins.org/google...
- Kenton
COOL! So if I need an extension that downloads YouTube videos or blocks ads, Chrome is the one to beat. Wish other browsers had that power! /sarcasm
- Paul Puri
Chrome isn't for everyone, but there are lots of people who don't need extensions at all. But if you follow Kenton's link, it looks like you will be able to block ads and download Flash videos.
- Victor Ganata
@Paul there are probably thousands of plugin for Firefox that you'd think were pretty useless too. The main criticism of Chrome has been that it didn't have plugin support. Now it does and if the plugins do what you want great. If not, you'll have to use another browser.
- Kenton
Hmm. Still like Firefox better. Also can't figure out that Adblock extension, it doesn't seem to offer any way to subscribe to the filter lists. And it's danged hard to do CSS development without the WebDeveloper and DOM Inspector extensions. What I really want is Firefox's interface with the Chrome javascript engine. I don't care for the overly simplistic nature of the Chrome interface, and the process separation is annoying as heck to me (makes it suck up memory like a sponge).
- Otto
@Otto - I'm happy for you, and Ima let you finish, but CHROME IS THE GREATEST BROWSER OF ALL TIME.
- Tomy Thomson
@Kenton don't let my rapist wit fool you. I love Chrome. If you just relish speed, it's great. But it is just a browser. Not a very effective tool for my arsenal.
- Paul Puri
LOL @ "rapist wit".
- Otto
Mama mia Robert, Chrome is fast now.
- Bob DeMarco
Firm cancels health insurance coverage for girl, 17, after celiac disease diagnosis -- chicagotribun - http://www.chicagotribune.com/health...
Andrew C liked this
This sucks. Yeah, the system works perfectly and doesn't need to be changed at all.
- Victor Ganata
It says they rescinded 6 policies alone this year. Makes you wonder if they are financially solvent. What financial problems does American Community Mutual have? If I were a customer of them, would I be putting serious thought into jumping ship?
- Paul Puri
Question: why does Facebook have 300 million users and is never down but Twitter has 45 million and is down many times a day? People at #TC50 are noticing this too. Will Facebook use this to get into the "real time public" game?
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I don't think it the number of people, I think is the number of hits/per time. Then again, it might be the IT people. Unless you are hitting Facebook every minute, you may not notice any downtime.
- W. Kirk Crawford
Something is wrong with Twitter's structure. They need better engineers!
- Eugene Teng
Kirk: I totally disagree. Twitter has always been going down, even in the good old days when no one used it.
- Robert Scoble
also, how many apps/web services are connecting to and slurping data from twitter compared to facebook?
- alphaxion
Facebook may never be "down" per se but it is *frequently* completely unusable. I don't think anyone should be looking to FB as the paragon of reliability.
- Kevin Pedraja
alphaxion: that is a big deal, yes, but I can tell you the usage on Facebook is many times higher than for Twitter. Length on site numbers are higher too. Most Twitter users don't even use Twitter and that's provable.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: I'm using both a LOT and I can tell you that it's a rare day I can't get to Facebook but that happens almost every day on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I have seen facebook down. Not near as much as Twitter.
- Dan Krivolavek
I suspect a lot of it has to do with back end architecture.
- Eoghann Irving
which means they might not have invested as much into the standard web interface servers. How often does access between the off site services and twitter go down?
- alphaxion
I think Facebook was smart and managed it's growth. They're architecture was able to adapt as they grew. I think Twitter would be smart to stop trying to patch the system and build a whole new Twitter 2.0.
- ChiliMac
When Facebook was young and only open to college students, it definitely went down. It's just that no one but college students (who didn't care) noticed. Twitter doesn't have that going for it.
- Jordan Hofker
money
- Richard Hill
Twitter is broken. If they don't build a 2.0 version, sooner or later something better will replace them.
- Eugene Teng
Twitter is dead to me.
- Dan Krivolavek
Jordan, Twitter is not "young" anymore. That excuse flew the coop a while ago. Their infrastructure is broken, plain and simple.
- Chieze Okoye
Richard has a big part of it. Facebook has bought an amazing amount of hardware resources. But they've also hired a lot of quality people and done a lot of quality work to make use of those resources. It all works together.
- Todd Hoff
FB may not be 'down' much, but it's been moving like molasses for the last year for me, lite isn't much better. I don't know much about the api traffic for either, but I'd bet twitter has more from that side, just a guess though.
- John
I do not know about you Robert, but sometimes Facebook is being a 'biotch' to me and times out at various times of day and nite. Twitter, I believe is going through some huge growing pains. I hope they get bigger pants soon.
- Nile Flores
Robert, maybe you get access to the VIP Facebook, but I find that several times a month it will do things like log me out every 2 minutes, won't let me access apps, etc. Sure you can log in and maybe see your feed, but that's about it.
- Kevin Pedraja
actually, oddly enough, my GF's profile on facebook is currently telling everyone "sorry this profile is unavailable right now". Looks like they still have issues ;)
- alphaxion
I am curious what Twitter does with their time and money.
- Kreg Steppe
This might be the result of the launching of the site time... Facebook earlier than Twitter!!
- Arijit Das
'cause Twitter only picked up engineers that knew how to write scalable applications with their Summize acquisition - and they've been playing catch-up ever since.
- Mike Koss
...because only a tiny fraction of FB's "users" actually use it frequently enough to crash it? just a guess...
- .LAG liked that
People have already settled for Facebook's near real-time activity stream. Twitter will always have a place as a comm channel but the majority of those 300 million FB users are fine with checking in once or twice a day to see what their friends are up to. I would like to see stats on how many stale Twitter accounts there are vs. Facebook.
- Dave Evans
It got to do with the frequency of access. People who tweet and are active in tweeting do it all the time. It is not the same with Facebook.
- Gokul
Are those respective numbers for 'active within last 30 days'. Registrations are meaningless. That's why LinkedIn is always up. Everyone has an account but no-one actually uses it.
- Andy C
how many of these 300 million are actually active ?
- Peter Dawson
Don't know about FB but 6 million folk are active daily on Twitter. Source: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post...
- Andy C
Facebook is often unusable at certain times of the day. Typically just after everyone gets into the office. It is certainly not a paragon of reliability from the users perspective. And 300 million people don't all access it at once. If they did............no carrier
- Gilbert Harding
twitter search has value. fb search? NONE.
- Phil Calvin
Good point Phil.
- Gilbert Harding
Maybe that IS why facebook should keep out of realtime stuff. It is less hassle to their systems. But I find facebook chat slow and unresponsive :) Neither is perfect... that is good. It means there is much more work to do :)
- DC Crowley
I have also found that the real time chat on Facebook is slow. I think they would have similar problems if there were as many developers creating ways to update on facebook. Cluster f#(K -cs ostini
- Christopher Scott Ostini
Peter: Facebook says that the 300 million number are people who've logged in over the past month. Most of whom are also active daily. I live with a Facebook addict. She's on it multiple times a day and so are all of her friends.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook has smarter engineers at the top that listen to the even smarter engineers at the bottom.
- Jesse Stay
.LAG, your reason doesn't fly - over half of those 300 million users log in at least once a day, and that doesn't even include the near 1 million apps that are also hitting Facebook on a regular basis.
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I don't see Twitter openly sharing that type of traffic information - kinda makes me wonder about Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
And Phil, have you tried Facebook search recently? It is becoming more and more valuable every day.
- Jesse Stay
*never* down? http://friendfeed.com/jeffdou...
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
It may also be a matter of function with scale. Facebook has many functions all of which are more than likely different scalable solutions: photo sharing, chat, etc. Twitter has a much smaller set. When taking 300M users in FB how does that break down to function vs. Twitter. It may be that the concentration around function is higher in Twitter's case than FaceBook. So if FB has say 40...
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- Altan Khendup
Robert, I understand the 'addict' state :)- while on the topic, I thought, I'll share this link to the community http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archive...
- Peter Dawson
After this discussion, I have noticed some issues with Facebook. Slow updates. Uploading hiccups. General functionality breaks at times. Of course, I still have access to it.
- Paul Puri
I think that's the biggest difference. It's rare for Facebook to be "down". Individual components yes, but not the entire site. With Twitter it tends to be all or nothing.
- Eoghann Irving
Yeah, Facebook's architecture is much more modularized. If one thing goes down it doesn't take down everything else. They also have many, many more servers managing it all and a much more mature Memcached backend. That, and they have a much smarter engineering staff managing it all. There are definitely slow spots, but they always correct after a short time, and you never see the entire site down. It's probably the reason Facebook is now profitable and Twitter isn't.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also willing to bet Facebook is doing Unit Testing on their launches, where I'm pretty sure Twitter isn't (based on the things that break after launches)
- Jesse Stay
My review of the new iPod Nano is now on Suntimes.com! http://www.suntimes.com/technol...
Larry Roth liked this
Decent quality. But Andy, you need to buy one just for video now.
- Paul Puri
Putting faith in its place - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Paul Puri liked this
Yup. That pretty much sums it. Not saying there isn't one, but nobody can prove there is one.
- Paul Puri
Digitizing old rehearsals from almost 22 years ago. By the inverted beard of Buddy Holly, we were awful. Just awful.
Can you share some of these old tunes? Would love to hear and judge for myself. ;^)
- Paul Puri
kaiserkuo: Wow, a devout Mormon speaks out against LDS support for Prop 8, and is silenced by elders. http://bit.ly/Ijevd Worth watching. Brave guy. - http://twitter.com/kaiserk...
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I watched the video. 1) The fact it was videotaped speaks to the fact a response was expected. I've never seen a camcorder during a church meeting like this, so it was done surreptitiously. 2) It's not clear that he was escorted out, as the video says - at all. He definitely finished his prepared remarks, and for all we know the guy following him was going to use the restroom?. 3) I...
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- Louis Gray
I attend LDS services every week and believe the church's core elements - even when I have trouble with things that can at times be perceived as politics. You also know I was more than happy to support my best friend in his same-sex wedding last week, and celebrate their bonding. I respect this gentleman's trials and his openness in speaking, but don't think this incident is much at all.
- Louis Gray
4) there is no evidence as to the source, the background, or even if it's real, but even if so, Louis's points are right on.
- Jesse Stay
I have not seen the video, but I'd want to see the context. To everything there is a season (turn turn turn).
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Holden, just remember that fiction makes for better TV. :)
- Louis Gray
LDS is a cult, nothing more.... You shouldn't need to add to The Bible, that's the first test. There's others, but citing them would take too long....
- Mike Shields
Holden, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints ceased practicing polygamy in approximately 1890. Big Love, Warren Jeffs, et al are from groups that are not associated with the church to which Louis belongs.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
I wouldn't go so far as to say LDS is a cult (the cult would be FLDS, the polygamist Mormon church). But it is definitely conservative, and conservative religion is against homosexuality on principle (plus premarital sex, adultery, marrying outside the religion, and other such sins) because it subverts the authoritarian patriarchal hierarchy (not to mention outright political...
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- Dennis Jernberg
Mike, while I do not believe LDS doctrine to be true, I personally have problems applying the word "cult" to the church (which implies a uniformity of thought and total unquestioning, unthinking belief in a supreme leader). A Mormon ex co worker once noted to me, "We can't agree on what the Word of Wisdom means. How can we be a cult?"
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
Dennis, I can't speak to LDS, but many denominations (Anglican/Episcopal, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Baptist) have both conservative and liberal wings. Sometimes bodies can be identified as one or the other (I am a member of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, which leans right), while some bodies contain both conservatives and liberals within the body (both Hillary Clinton and George W Bush are United Methodists).
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
I used to be a religious person. I got sick of every religion, including my own, saying they worshiped the true God(s), and spoke the truth. How could we all be right if we believed in different things? And as far as a religion meddling in affairs of those outside their beliefs, your God has a special private hell waiting for you. Trust me. I've read about it, and it's not good ;^)
- Paul Puri
I used to be dragged to a Mormon church when I was younger and they were very clear about their apolitical agenda. This corruption is just proof that churches are far too powerful. If they want a say in government (including when talking about abortion) they should be paying taxes.
- Jack Linhart
Hell is different things for different people. For me hell is sitting next to Pat Robertson. But hell does have better music.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jack, speaking as a devout Lutheran, I for one would be willing to give up tax exempt status for churches, for two reasons. First, it's an avenue for some false churches to jump on their couches, claim they're churches, and reap non-taxable profits. Second, it's an avenue for governments to force churches to be silent on moral matters - "we'll pay you off if you don't endorse any candidates."
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
@John, sounds perfectly fair to me
- Jack Linhart
Robert, I don't know your tastes in music, but if you ever get the chance, you should check out Undercover (most popular in the 1980s, initially as a punk band, but one who expanded their sound). Or consider U2, whose songs are influenced by the Christian beliefs of 3 of the 4 members.
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
John, I knew about the liberal and conservative churches (and wings of certain churches). But I don't think there's any liberal LDS churches. At least not yet (give them a few decades or so)...
- Dennis Jernberg
out of context, but you folks are pretty well read, and I love crowd sourced questions. Is it true that LDS gained the bulk of Howard Hugh's inheritance? All I have read on the matter were some wiki pages, and they were unclear on sources.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
"You shouldn't need to add to The Bible, that's the first test." So true. Only a cult would add to the tanakh.
- Pat Rice
Good one, Pat...
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
It's interesting how the lifecycle of a particular technology can be at different stages for different people. For instance, I see records as completely obsolete, but there are two channel junkies out there spending thousands on a new turntable. Other people see CDs and physical media as obsolete, but for most consumers, that's how they buy music
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or watch movies.
- Alex Scoble
The gulf between the haves and the have nots is widening...Or the wants and the want nots?
- Alex Scoble
Not sure I get your last statement.
- Cristo
Those who have broadband (not most Americans) will have a vastly different technological experience than those without, for instance.
- Alex Scoble
I rarely buy physical music, but wake me up when I can get commercial-free OAR HDTV online.
- LogEx
And some people will simply choose to step off the upgrade bus and live with whatever they had 5 years ago or whatever.
- Alex Scoble
OTOH, it's a bit sickening to fall prey to industry business models and re-buy the same stuff over and over again.
- LogEx
If I'm reading this right, actually a majority of Americans do have broadband: http://www.internetworldstats.com/am... 75% of Americans use the Internet, and 89% of those that do use broadband.
- Cristo
And as technology (at least in some areas like home theater) become more and more complex, the gulf between the haves/wants and the havenots/wantnots widens.
- Alex Scoble
I generally listen to music in digital form (and get annoyed when I can't find digital versions for preview/sale), but if I have a chance at seeing a band live I will 99% of the time rather buy a physical CD from them, rather than a (cheaper) digital version. And I like to have the cases/packaging.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Broadband wasn't defined in that paper, so it's hard to have context. And I don't see any broadband numbers on the chart just N/As.
- Alex Scoble
There's an article about broadband penetration below the charts. Don't you trust me buddy? )
- Cristo
Many of my friends are tube-ophiles --some spending more money on a stereo system than most can imagine. There are people in that crazy world that spend $10000 on a power cable. We all have our obsessions I guess.
- Brian Sullivan
My laptop turns 5 years old this month. Other than a flaky RW DVD drive, and a flaky LAN port (neither which I use anymore) it gets the job done. I've come close to getting something new several times over the past couple of years, but nothing--so far--has pushed me over the edge into purchasing. I may actually go with a netbook and desktop for the price of a laptop.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
I've lost lots of music in iTunes before, so I still like having CDs even though I'd rather have the instant gratification of buying online. Over the years I've discovered missing albums and/or songs in my iTunes collection that I know I've ripped, and I can't figure out where they went.
- Cristo
Perhaps broadband is a poor choise of terms for this discussion, because the speed that is required for broadband isn't anywhere near what you need to stream HD video. I have a hard time believing that 65% of Americans have a truly high speed (greater than 10Mb/Sec down) internet connection.
- Alex Scoble
@Cristo - if memory serves (I think it was a Cringely post), US broadband stats look good because they typically define broadband as 200 K/sec and up.
- Andrew C
Outside of metro areas there are a lot of people who may have some marginal form of broadband but who don't have nearly the functionality that major urban areas can access. I have a sister who lives outside of Madison, Wisconsin and can't even get basic DSL service yet.
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Yeah, that's not anything close to broadband. If you can't watch a video with Netflix Instant in HD, you don't have broadband.
- Alex Scoble
Sorry, I missed your definition of broadband at the top of the post.
- Cristo
And even that's too slow because that's only 720P video. TRUE high speed internet is fast enough to serve 1080P/24...And you know me, I like to define stuff later. :)
- Alex Scoble
People have trouble even sending 1080p video around their house.
- Cristo
The point is that someone with enough bandwidth to stream a movie at 1080P will have a vastly different technological experience from someone who has to buy blu-rays, if they can even afford a blu-ray player at all. One will be unchained from media and the other won't...although the person with high speed internet may still choose to buy movies on disc.
- Alex Scoble
As will the person who has the bandwidth to beam themselves to other locations. :)
- Cristo
If you want to look at it from web terms, how many people are just now finding Facebook? And how many of us see it as a dinosaur?
- Alex Scoble
Some of us are on the bleeding edge for good or bad.
- John D Reasor
I'm a bit worried about almost *everything* going digital. Especially books. Ink on paper has stood the test of time. Not so much with data. I still have hand written journals lying around. If I try to find stuff I've written on an Amiga ( that's stored on 3 1/2" floppy), it's not so easy to get back. Then there's harddrive crashes, burned CDs fading, cloud services going down..
- Rodfather
Actually there was an article a little while ago here that said most people are now early adopters, if that makes sense at all.
- Cristo
I just see this tension between those who want more bleeding edge and those who want things to be less complex.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Rodfather, maybe we could hire people to transcribe everything onto paper in case formats change over the next thousand years. :)
- Cristo
Of course that assumes that anyone will be able to read your version of English in a thousand years
- Alex Scoble
prolly. iono. Actually I suspect there's a lot of people that can't read it now. :)
- Cristo
Alex, there are other major differences between media physical and digital... If I want to own a movie, I'll buy a DVD or Blu-ray. At least with a DVD, I know I can Fair Use it pretty easily. Streaming or on-demand TV and movies are OK I suppose for the rental model, but the 24 hour limit really blows. I rarely do it.
- LogEx
Music has at least gotten past the DRM hump (and I have the backup thing under control), so I'm very comfortable buying digital. Not so of movies.
- LogEx
That's what's nice about Netflix, you can do both at the same time. At least for now. And some will choose what they see as more ease of use over fair rights.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I rent when I'm pretty sure I won't want to watch it ever again. I've bought iTunes movies before though. I don't watch movies over that much though, except for a select few.
- Cristo
With formats changing over time, lots of history is lost. I remember somewhere that only 20-30% of music were transferred over to CD. That's a lot of music lost on vinyl and tape that will be harder and harder to recover.
- Rodfather
Tapes might be harder to recover, but not vinyl.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
There are far too many people keeping that tech alive.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
There's tons of Grateful Dead music on cassette tapes in people's garages. One of my contractor's hired a kid in Santa Cruz to digitize his collection. It's mostly bootlegged stuff.
- Cristo
I'm not sure if I even have a working tape deck.
- Rodfather
I'm comfortable buying digital, too, and I often pick up stuff from Amazon MP3 when it's cheap (like their $5 selections), but if I then go see that band live, I'll buy the physical CD as well. But I think that's more a support-the-band, memorialize-the-experience impulse. With movies, it's more a storage/persistent streaming issue. If I knew that all the movies on Netflix Instant Watch...
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- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Funny you mention the Grateful Dead. Their archive is going into the UCSC library.
- Rodfather
Plus blu-ray is 1080p/24 vs 720p/24 for Netflix instant streaming
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Oh, we had this discussion recently: http://scienceblogs.com/clock... there are so many factors going into this - the early adopters and techies here (like myself) are just a strange subset of humanity!
- Bora Zivkovic
I wonder how long Blu-ray will last. We're still no where close to, let's say IMAX resolution. I want to see holographic disks with 5k video shot from the RED camera.
- Rodfather
We are a long ways off from 4k in the consumer space...They can't even make large screen TVs that can handle 1080P yet.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Plus, things like Criterion discs I will always want to own physically, until they start packaging the essays and stuff that are always in the booklet along with the digital media. And including that begorgeous cover artwork in a way that I can display in my home.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
What about the former cutting-edge people holding on to their tech? AIUI some laserdisc owners were late switching to DVD, and some home theater DVD types bought expensive line doublers rather than switch to Blu-ray.
- Andrew C
Having had high speed broadband and an income and now having neither. I have embraced frugality. I realized that I like and have access to live music and when there I will buy a cd or some merch to support the artist direct if I have some spare grip. Movies..I can wait until I can grab them at the library. I can't remember how long it has been since I bought a DVD. Books I still enjoy reading au natural but I have stopped buying them. I still have a dual tape deck and am slowly digitizing my collection.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
I purchased Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" in vinyl, then CD, then again on CD to get better track-to-track transitions, then on DVD... I don't want to invest too much more of my retirement fund into that album!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
I might have less $$'s but I am making them go farther. I would hesitate to label myself as a "have not" as I still have more than prolly 90% of the world's population.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
There's varying degrees of haveness/wantness, Mathew, I'd say...
- Alex Scoble
It is about what you can afford as well.
- Joe
When I was younger and made less money, I bought tons of CD's. Now I am older, and make a much better living, but I prefer renting music, a la Rhapsody. I stream Netflix and only occasionally have one mailed. I guess I don't want to buy things that take up space. There is sooo many movies and songs I like, at what point does it just become an inventory instead of a valued item?
- Paul Puri
that's the reason I can't stand people's emphasis on comparing one product with another product and saying that X will be the death of Y and so on. the way I see it, if you market your product correctly, there will always be a market for it. Granted the scale and size of the market will change over time but the introduction of a new technology does not equal the death of the old one....
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- David Rodriguez
You make sense David. Things like Vinyl may never die out for obvious reasons. But sometimes things have to die. Like VHS.
- Paul Puri
Yeah, VHS was a crappy technology
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Betamax sucked pretty bad too. I am ok with VHS going bye-bye.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Yes, there are varying degrees of "haveness and wantness" (don't think those are even words, Alex). I like what Paul said. I will still buy vinyl because I just dig the sound. Just like a B3 or Wurly will still kick a Rolands butt.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
They are words now :)
- Alex Scoble
from IM
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