Is that a phone in her mouth? Louis, you're playing on the internet and your daughter is eating a Blackberry Pearl. Your call, dude.
- nakachi
Nakachi, that's the remote to an iPod Dock. She's safe.
- Louis Gray
(1)Sarah: Hey Matthew, what's dad doin'? (2)Matthew: Dunno, he looks focused! (3)Sarah: Let me find something to distract him. (4)Sarah: Oh, look dad! A remote! —Matthew: Are you listening, you old guy?!! :)
- directeur
Picturing Louis Gray setting on top of roof with lap top
- Kim Landwehr
Just wait until they can climb up the couch - that's coming in another month or two.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, it won't be long. Both can get one leg up, but require a push the rest of the way.
- Louis Gray
"Can't believe that I'm wasting my time replying to an anonymous troll, but it's the attitude I'm addressing rather than the person, so here's a story: Last summer I went into a takeout food place and placed my order. The shop was busy and they were out of the food I ordered, so I went outside to have a smoke and wait. While standing there, well away from the door, an SUV sat at the curb, idling away. A few minutes later a lady emerged from the takeout place and began coughing and fanning her face, an exaggerated gesture to let me know that my smoking was bothering her. Then she jumped into the SUV and it drove off. I thought to myself, you idiot. You have the gall to complain about my smoking a cigarette on the sidewalk when your hubby sits there at the curb with his 8 cylinder SUV belching out poison... and I'm the one doing something wrong? I challenge any non smoker to light up a cigarette and smoke it to the butt. Yes, anyone who is not used to it will cough and maybe even feel..."
- Paul Short
"Hi everyone - I'm noticing a lot of you guys are complaining about flu-like symptoms. I'm not a doctor, just the guy who wrote the article above - but with the current situation regarding this outbreak, please go to a doctor or other health professional and get checked out immediately. Also, take the precautions mentioned above so that heaven forbid if it's more than just a regular flu or cold, you don't end up exposing anyone else to it if it's at all avoidable. Be well."
- Paul Short
"Shooting at Bubbles... is that anything like fishing with dynamite? LOL Seriously though, the more I think about the name the more I realize how clever it is. Can't wait to see what you have up your sleeve as you move forward. Loving the shiny new layout too."
- Paul Short
"It's like any other parasitic relationship - or would symbiotic be a better word - when the host dies or becomes inhospitable, the organisms depending on it for survival sure as hell better have a contingency plan."
- Paul Short
"Hi Sue - so glad to see you are ok. There's so much news coming in about the tornado that it's hard to fathom how bad it must have been. \i have a close personal friend who lives in McMinnville about an hour southeast of Murfreesboro and she says they are still on tornado watch but the bulk of the storm has passed over already. Thank God."
- Paul Short
"ok, this post is just begging the question "If it's controlled by subtle movements of th lower torso, how does the chariot act when the rider gets, ummm, excited?""
- Paul Short
I think in a previous life I must have lived in Australia. For years my sleep schedule has been backward - up all night and sleeping during the day.
- Paul Short
This might be the straw, or nail, or, well, you know. Actually breaking all the connections destroys the value. Let's let it die and move here.
- Dean Terry
wow, I hope those connections are backed up!
- Jamie
@Jamie If they were not, would this be the end of twitter?
- Benedikt Koehler
Twitter, ah yes, I remember Twitter -- from wayyyy back in the olden days -- back when John McCain was still in diapers and dinosaurs ruled the earth right?
- Thomas Hawk
a lot of contemporary problems would be solved if we can accept that DNA "DOES" decide certain things. It is not bigoted of me to say that being Jewish gives me access to certain DNA that does certain things. Mark Davidson is wrong! DNA is like twitter... is twitter's architecture evil? No... only if you get hysterical about it and start bullying people about what they can do with their...
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- Noah David Simon
I liked how one person on twitter put it. the bigger issue is not the lost followers its the fact that we all still use it. I personally lost 100+ followers and friends. Biz and ev got some s'plaining to do
- BCK
from twhirl
Why hasn't friendfeed worked out how to migrate twitter users across gracefully
- James Tenniswood
I wonder if the twittering at F8 caused the outage
- Bob Gannon
I suppose I should no longer be shocked, but I am, that they remain obstinately silent during these issues. GIve me some comfort that things are not really lost, give me the bad news already...but give me something. Free PR advice: crisis communications is a large field for a reason; you're going to be the poster child for how NOT to do it and, i fear, the consequences thereof. Trust is falling...
- Jonathan Yarmis
At some point people are going to get tired and move on. Twitter set up a status blog but doesn't seem to communicate what is really going on well at all.
- Dayngr
from twhirl
The only people still using twitter are those who haven't given FF a chance
- Aaron Krug
f8 plus OSCON equals FailWhale. Bummer.
- Eric Berto
I don't know about anyone else, but I just checked my email and I have about 30 or so follow notices from obvious spammers from twitter. This outage could be the result of an attack. Edit: I restarted my twitter account yesterday, btw.
- Paul Short
at some point people are going to get tired of saying people are going to get tired and move on. I guess we'll just move on etc
- Ivan Pope
from twhirl
I sure hope when it comes back things will be restored to normal... but I fear not. Might try something else out, just for kicks. God knows there are enough alternatives.
- Ginger Koolick
See http://status.twitter.com - " Missing followers 1 hour ago Folks are reporting problems with missing followers - that is, seeing the follower counts drop on their profile pages. We’re looking into this now. Update: We’re going to go into maintenance mode to correct this problem."
- Susan Beebe
FriendFeed is so I can tell all my Twitter followers to join me on identi.ca ;)
- Jesse Stay
In case you didn't know, there is an auto-subscribe option on Identi.ca so you don't have to deal with a large number of subscription requests or whatever. Just sayin.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Yes, everyone join identi.ca so we can prove, again, that a database backed tiered architecture can only scale so far before coming crashing down.
- Jason Carreira
as near as I can tell I lost 800 followers (from last time I noticed the number) and about 100 people I follow.
- Michael Gartenberg
I don't seem to have lost anybody at all. Was 620 this morning, am 620 right now.
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
Well, almost two hours later I'm missing about 54 followers and 30 followings. Friends report similar numbers now. Is anybody able to report getting people back?
- Ignacio Rodriguez de R,
Waiting Twitter's @ev or @biz or @jack replies :(
- Igor Poltavskiy
I lost about 70! Most that I got within the last 3 weeks! Also lost some that did not exchanged Tweets recently also lost the Spam bots, which I never followed! They restored the database which is 3 weeks old!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
According to Twitter the numbers will be fluctuating over the next several days. They've stripped out a lot of spammers. I find it hard to believe 700 of my 2200 followers were spammers though... but, like I say, those numbers may not be an accurate count. I'm still a loyal fan - won't be dumping Twitter .. yet. ;)
- Mari Smith
Maybe Twitter is just an experiment by market psychologists to find out how much failure and disappointment it takes to dispel a loyal brand community?
- Benedikt Koehler
'Unfortunately, (SSDs) performance in the Vista environment falls short of what the market really needs and that is why we need to develop the next generation, which we'll start sampling end of this year, early next year.' Harari said this challenge alone is putting SanDisk behind schedule. "We have very good internal controller technology... That said, I'd say that we are now behind because we did not fully understand, frankly, the limitations in the Vista environment.'
- Paul Short
The top two floors of a Century City residential tower still under construction have been sold for a record $47 million to Candy Spelling, the widow of TV mogul Aaron Spelling. A $47-million price tag may seem like an enormous sum, but this is all about downshifting in the fast lane.
- Paul Short
"After all, the 62-year-old heiress with a reputation for embracing opulence will be moving out of Los Angeles County's largest home -- a 123-room, 56,500-square-foot mansion on six acres in the Holmby Hills neighborhood off Sunset Boulevard." - Jeez, that's crazy.
- Paul Short
So my laptop is dying. 50/50 chance anything shows up on the screen on bootup. Black, hangs, no HD activity, it wont even turn off after. Gotta pull the battery. Sigh. I hope it lasts long enough for me to find an apple store on google earth ;-)
And sometimes it boots up just fine. w. t. f.
- Paul Short
You must have many applications loading at startup! Try to remove some of them and see if it helps. Remember some applications require special drivers to be loaded! If you can load in Safe mode with no problem that mean this is the cause! Or you may have some Adware or some other Trojan running in the background! Get Nod32 great Antivirus! Also if you using Norton it brings your OS to a crawl.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
I figured out the problem - a bad RAM module. I've pulled out the offending hardware and replaced it with a spare I had lying around and haven't had a problem since. BTW, thanks for taking the time to reply, Igor. I appreciate it.
- Paul Short
Robert Scoble's writings over the past couple of days has made me realize why I basically stopped blogging - the monotony, the pressure to try and be the first to post something, posting stuff I didn't really want to but felt I had to to compete, the negativity, etc. Essentially, I stopped enjoying it and if I don't enjoy doing something, I do something else. I think I'm going to start blogging again but only post stuff I want to and say screw the negativity. Thoughts? P.S. the afformentioned are also the reasons for all the false starts I've made over the past couple years, fyi.
- Paul Short
You're like the smartest kid in class, Robert. You come up with the best answer first, and then nobody has anything to say anymore ;-)
- Rubin Sfadj
And no ability to create some anonymity would make it harder for people to speak on the internet from within repressive governments. For example, bloggers in Iran or China. They have a hard enough time getting around the existing blocks. Sometimes anonymity has good uses.
- Tim Finucane
@Rubin Sfadj (rubin): Do Laura means THE rule to be observed or the indeniable fact?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I agree with no anonymity but expanded to say people have to own what they say online.
- Trish R
Anonymity while annoying at times serves a purpose. I hate it, but we need it to get certain things done. How many news stories that you (Scoble) or Arrington have broke would not have been available without it.
- Cody Heitschmidt
from fftogo
Lack of anonymity will work well when we have a whole range of ways to filter and channel our messages to the people & groups we want, where privacy is a robust system under our individual control. There are also cases in gaming and some online worlds where you would want to be able to create alternate identities.
- Dean Terry
My rule would be "No Rules"! Horrible things can happen when there are no rules. But nothing can happen when there are too many rules.
- Cody Heitschmidt
from fftogo
If we're talking about the Internet then IRC is part of the Internet. And IRC is about nicks and netiquette. Still wonder why people think that socnets created the "communication"... Many people used and still communicate on IRC. So my #1 rule would be netiquette. Yes, that old RFC http://www.faqs.org/rfcs... which states that we should respect people's use of "nicks"
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Anthony I gave you a rule that I would like to have but would be impossible to enforce. That is the best kind of rule. And as to Chinese. The best dissidents are those that stand up and sign their names.
- Robert Scoble
good change always takes courageous leadership. That means signing your name.
- Robert Scoble
@directeur: It's an undeniable fact.
- Rubin Sfadj
Scoble I don't want to be one of your "Blocked Jerks" but that last comment was ignorant. Dissidents in a lot of places that sign their names are still hung in the public square. Anonymity is a needed thing. I don't like it either but to say the best dissidents have to release their identity is pretty disrespectful to a lot of folks who have accomplished a lot of things because of their secrecy
- Cody Heitschmidt
from fftogo
Robert: hm, just wanted to clarify. Even were it enforceable, I hate the idea.
- Anthony Citrano
The best policy you can extract for the "no anonimity" rule is: If you want to keep if secret, keep it offline.
- Rubin Sfadj
Many who have fought for freedom have remained anonymous til the time was right. Scoble, I think your just plain wrong.
- Tim Finucane
Robert, I'm in agreement with you on the anonymity thing. People, look at any blog, forum, social network, etc and you'll see that it's the anonymous jerks who bring the quality of the place down. By and large, the people who sign their real names to what they contribute usually make the best contributions. The anonymous people are usually the ones saying "fu@k you" because they figure without using their real name, they can't be held accountable for their comments.
- Paul Short
Paul, I'm saying "Fu@k You" to absolute anonymity, and my identity isn't hidden. Blows a hole in that theory.
- Tim Finucane
I too concur with Robert. One must take a stand and be accountable for their actions on the internet...no hiding here! Leadership is either present or woefully lacking.
- Susan Beebe
@Tim Cool. Now, I can respect your opinion.
- Paul Short
Robert, maybe not won, but certainly started in anonymity. And battles aren't won without a start.
- Tim Finucane
The real problem here is a rule of absolutism, with no room for exceptions. I certainly don't need to hide, and I don't.
- Tim Finucane
@Tim that's the essense of my blog response, I think - that most of us here have the luxury of talking that way. Many people don't, and we ought to be trying to enable their speech, not squelch it.
- Anthony Citrano
How about our own revolution war and independence, years of secrecy before they got enough hidden support to sign the declaration of independence. The battle against slavery, the underground railroad, every War that ever depended on any type of espionage. The underground movements in Nazi occupied Europe before Europe was liberated. Watergate being disclosed to the public. Any News story ever that was led into with the words a unidentified source. Every time a terrorist plot stopped by anonymous source.
- Cody Heitschmidt
No names, ever. Anonymity should be the expected state. After all, I, as a reader, don't care what your name is. Honesrly, I don't care who you are at all except insofar as I can validate your consistency. Identity is a ephermal static online, as it should be. Change your IDENTITY every 5min online and you garner no egoboo and thus no expectation of interest, but I don't need to know...
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- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
Anonymity is a horrible thing when people come onto twitter/ff/whatever and say stupid shit just because they can hide behind a cloak. Anonymity is an essential part of any fight against oppression. It always starts with some sort of secrecy and has to
- Cody Heitschmidt
Cody, exactly. Many revolutions start in anonymity. Robert's viewpoint is one based on the relative luxury we live in within the USA. We do not face the battles others in this world do.
- Tim Finucane
To really work, no anonymity would have to be in the sense of full non-optional and automatic disclosure. Like webcams on everybody 24/7 that everybody can look at. If everybody's in on the same terms, I could live with it.
- Flemming Funch
I think people fail to see anonymity as a tool. There are some who abuse it and there are some who dont. In some countries, anonymity is paramount. Racist chatters on Yahoo!, yes they need to be accountable, but when one person decides to go against government controlled thought, it would be an easy flame for the government to snuff out.
- Colby Olson
Colby, and like all tools, it can be used for good or evil. Rules of absolutism with no room for exceptions never work. Look at the current war on drugs, or prohibition.
- Tim Finucane
Cody, I think you made a good point by dragging the argument into the real world. Sure, if *nothing* In Real Life was anonymous, if you were tracked every second, your every word and keystroke recorded, you could probably eliminate a lot of crime! But you've just wiped out privacy, too. I don't think Robert sees this as a problem because he thinks we are headed to a state where privacy is dead. When you yourselves are Twittering about your every move, does it really matter if Big Brother is watching too?
- Karim
It's a hard problem that is discussed a lot lately, from the FISA bill to the latest Batman movie.
- Karim
Troll free zone; zero tolerance for insensitive, mean-spirited personal attack.
- Dave Martin
The problem is when it is only the people who choose to speak or act that can't hide behind anonymity. Whereas your audience stays mostly anonymous and can scheme against you behind your back. It should work in all directions. No lurking. No outing of anybody else without being outed yourself. Until that's technically possible, anonymity will sometimes be a very good thing, allowing individuals to stand up against tyranny, without immediately being shot down.
- Flemming Funch
This is a great discussion, I firmly believe that the only answer is "No Rules". All of the bad things that we hate happen because the morons and jerks have the same freedoms we do. That is a negative aspect of freedom, but one we must deal with.
- Cody Heitschmidt
One beautiful thing about the Internet is that if you really wanted a walled garden with no anonymity, where everyone would have to be verified with the same credentials required to obtain a passport or driver's license, you could build that, and nobody could stop you.
- Karim
Don't use "it's" when you mean "its."
- Chris Johnson
Jacob Burkhardt: "The essence of tyranny is the denial of complexity"
- Flemming Funch
Another thing to keep in mind is that what we think of as "anonymity" might be so much illusion. There are political prisoners sitting in jails in various countries who found out the hard way that their anonymous communications weren't anonymous. You can annoy people all day, but piss off a national government, and you might find out how little real anonymity there actually is.
- Karim
@Karim which reminds me of the Voltaire quote, "it is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong."
- Anthony Citrano
Weird, there's a Colby (me) and a Cody here. Too close, my friend, too close.
- Colby Olson
Click on the "me" tab. That shows YOU what YOU posted. But then click on the "comments" and "like" links over on the right. That shows you what you commented on, or liked. Well, unless you're looking at the me tab on MY account!
- Robert Scoble
what are the best apps? just installed MySocial 24x7 the FF3 sidebar, also playing aroung with Feedalizr and Alert Thingy
- Tomas Nihlen
Don't miss the "Show best of." These will show you the most popular FF items of the day, week, or month. Great way to get up to speed on what gets discussed here (and to find some new people to subscribe to).
- Robert Scoble
only thing is: (and like to emphasize that: I simply miss Twitter!) Come to think of it; can we, as long as Twitter's down, do a Miss Twitter Election?
- Adri Munier
One day you like Twitter, the other day you hate it huh? ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Comment often. Like often. These are signals to other people that you found an item engaging and important. Soon you'll find that we're also engaging on YOUR items.
- Robert Scoble
Make sure you add all your feeds. Flickr photos. Upcoming events. Twitter (so we'll know when it's back up and be able to discuss your best tweets). Your Digg and Del.icio.us accounts. And lots more. The more you put into FriendFeed the more people will engage with you.
- Robert Scoble
Is this planned maintenance or more of the same? I am trying to come up with reasons why FF should continue to take second place and I still can't work it out. What am I missing? Twitter's simplicity? I just don't see Twitter as an effective conversation tool. It seems more appropriate as a one way communication tool.
- Paul Jacobson
from twhirl
Don't miss the "more" menu under each cluster. It does a lot. It also lets you delete comments if you start a cluster, link to a cluster, and, well, more.
- Robert Scoble
Click the icons off to the left. Click a Flickr one, for instance, and you'll see all the Flickr photos from everyone you're following. Hint: if you want to see ALL Flickr photos from EVERYONE, click on the "everyone" tab first, then click the icons.
- Robert Scoble
I've been resistant to this. I like the simplicity of twitter. However, I also like being on a network that actually works, so maybe it's time to go ff full time.
- Adam Christie
This is a good, short intro for FF newbies. Wish someone had posted a similar note when I first joined. FF is a bit murkier than Twitter for new users. I also found http://frienderati.alltop.com/ to be very helpful.
- sage brennan
When you get tired of seeing a particular FriendFeed item, just click "hide." Don't worry, that just hides it from your view. You can see hidden items at the bottom of the page.
- Robert Scoble
The squeaky friends get the grease ;-)
- Paul Short
Click on "Friend Settings." There's some cool stuff in there. This is where you can see who is subscribed to you, who you are subscribed to, some cool stats (useful after you like and comment on a bunch of stuff to learn who you like the best) and some ways to find new friends to subscribe to. Just don't subscribe to that Scoble guy, he's very noisy!
- Robert Scoble
Once in a while you'll see a jerk in here. Here's how to deal with them: visit their page, then at the top you'll see a link titled "Block." Don't be afraid to block jerks. That helps keep the community clean of drama for everyone. Heck, don't be afraid to block me if you don't want to see me anymore. You define yourself by who you follow and who you allow into your life. One thing: you can still see people you blocked in the "Everyone" tab. They will still show up in searches you do there.
- Robert Scoble
Feel free to use the hide button as you read items, even if it is a topic your interested in. Don't worry, if more conversation occurs on the topic, it will pop back up in your feed again. I like to use this to "clear" the screen, so it isn't so cluttered and I am not re-reading something I have already seen.
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
I like Twitter and will go back as soon as it's up. I used to look at it as FriendFeed vs. Twitter. It's not. They both work great together. FriendFeed is much nicer place to have a conversation.
- Robert Scoble
The best thing I ever did was to add a few greasemonkey plugins like the one that removes viewed links and filter by service. It's OK now.
- Calley Nye
FriendFeed's worst attribute is that it rewards people who visit often. Click "F5" to refresh your browser's page. This is especially important if you're following lots of people, or are watching the "Everyone" page (it changes every few seconds).
- Robert Scoble
Is someone posting too much information? You can "filter" content by service for a user, or by a service for all users. Click the hide button, then click 'See options for hiding other items like this'
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
Do a search under the Everyone tab for your city name to find FFs and topics from your local area. This ain't just a San Fran Soical party!
- Johnny Worthington
I agree with Robert - FriendFeed has almost become the "home" page in my browser. Invariably it's sat in my browser most of the day... sure, it could be improved (grouping of contacts into channels), but it's very, very good...
- Jonathan Beckett
Oh one more thing....what's the deal with rooms? Do you have to make your own or can you find existing ones?
- Calley Nye
@scoble but doesnt FF refresh automatically? whats the interval on the auto refresh?
- Sebastian Keil
Even if you don't have an iPhone (I have a KU990), try fftogo.com. It works on most java enabled phone browsers and is a great way to fill in time when in lines
- Johnny Worthington
Friendfeed defaults to showing not only the content of those who you are subscribed to, but items that were found interesting by your friends by other people. This is called 'Friend of a Friend' - If you would rather not see these entries, click 'Hide' on one of them, then use 'See more options for hiding items like this' - there will be an option to hide items from Friends of your Friend.
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
Sebastian: FF does refresh automatically, but not fast enough for me. So I manually refresh it every few seconds.
- Robert Scoble
Calley: I'm subscribed to a bunch of rooms (mostly cause people invite me in). They haven't become very useful to me yet, although I'm noticing a few are getting more active lately. You can see the ones I'm subscribed to by visiting my FF at http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and clicking over on the right side.
- Robert Scoble
FF is more than a aggrigator site, it's the true social. Just don't find links and publish photos, discuss them and share in the collective power of community.
- Johnny Worthington
@Calley Nye (siliconcalley): You can make your own rooms if you want, or you can join others. Currently, its not immediately apparent where to find existing rooms, but there is a number of sites that have friendfeed room listings. You can also search google with something like: twitter site:friendfeed.com/rooms - I also recommend joining this room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Tim Hoeck
from NoiseRiver
if Twitter was micro-blogging, would FF be classed as macro-blogging?
- Johnny Worthington
@scobleizer Terrific overview/ welcome message regarding FriendFeed, is it possible to move this into it's own room? You are imparting some great information here, don't want to see it turn to vapor.
- michael sean wright
So basically you have to know the cool people to get invited to the dance. I like it...
- Calley Nye
Welcome everyone! Robert pretty much summed it up beautifully. I bring a little Gizmodo-ness into a more Engadget-esque Friend Feed ;) I'm Mona, nice to meet you all! This link will take you to the bookmarklet, which enables sharing links, images, and videos. It goes right on your browser toolbar. Extremely useful :) : http://friendfeed.com/share...
- Mona Nomura
Confused? Ask questions. Very few of us bite. Welcome.
- Chris Baskind
Use the recommend and subscribe to as many people as you want. The more people you subscribe then the greater the diversity of conversations.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
OMG, i didn't know there's a Scoble script allowing FF users to add Scobleizer in a tab on FriendFeed. http://bit.ly/dRo2L
- Nir Ben Yona
A big +1 for Mona's link to the bookmarklet, that's a really sticky way of getting involved with FF - share stuff, then share again, then share some more!
- Iain Baker
The reason I'm actually using FriendFeed right now (besides because Twitter is down) is that I was researching for a post. A really cool tool called Moopz - just posted http://www.techcrunch.com/2008...
- Calley Nye
Whoa please don't tell me this conversation ended because Twitter went back up. LOL
- Calley Nye
...I think it was because you said you're only using FF since Twitter is down ;) -but on a serious note, after a certain number of comments the post no longer gets 'bumped' so I don't think people are aware there are new comments added on the thread
- Mona Nomura
@paulshort: Thank you! :) So all in all is it comfortable to the eyes?
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
@directeur: Here we go. Looks pretty good, by and large. I had to seriously go scrolling down to find something wide enough to wrap. :) I really like the fact that the input box gets implicitly wider, meaning my long, rambling replies don't hit that three-line limit before the box stops expanding anymore. Whoot! http://tinyurl.com/6orblp
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
@squidlord: Now, this is a wide screen! Do you see the blue side bar? Happy you liked it! :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
OK, Jason Calacanis is a putz and a Rudy Giuliani wannabe, but every once in a while he says something that's right. Blogher fans should formulate an answer to this one when they make a big deal out of not enough women speaking at conferences. - http://twitter.com/JasonCa...
Bonus points for Dave labeling Calacanis a "putz"
- TDavid
bonus points for saying Jason is right about something
- Steve Gillmor
from twhirl
There is tool called search that might lead you to the answer to this question since it has been covered multiple times to include Jason himself being answered directly in the past.
- Michael W. May
from twhirl
Jason flip flops? Today I blog tomorrow I do not want to blog! Now to blog or not to blog that is the question! LMAO
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
What about bonus points for Rudy Giuliani!!?!
- Dave Winer
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" - Dude needs to do some rethnking, methinks.
- Paul Short
The defense attorney is going to have fun with this.
- Chris Baskind
@paulshort: There's no need to rethink this. It isn't impossible for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God, just very difficult. How many thousands of things are difficult for a poor man? I'll take the one difficulty over all the others!
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
from NoiseRiver
This sort of nonsense almost makes me consider a 'loser pays' system - almost.
- Jay Wiegmann
I'm with MiniMage. 'If money is a sickness may the good L-rd smite ME with it.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Um, shouldn't he be suing the spirit that made him fall?
- Cyndy
See, I've never understood this. 1 Corinthians 14.32 says that our spirits are in our own control. God doesn't make us fall.
- Micah Choquette
Why does FriendFeed recommend that you subscribe to people, but it doesn't also recommend blocking certain people too? I notice certain people are getting blocked by tons of people. Unfortunately newbies will have to see their spew for a while until they get wise that they can block them too.
Unless it is blatantly obvious spam I would hope FriendFeed would not recommend blocking people. That just seems so against the idea of social inyeraction even though some control is necessary.
- Scott Jarkoff
What a blow to the suggested blockee's self-confidence, unless they're a spam bot.
- Eric Schlissel
from twhirl
AJ: yeah, that's the downside of such a list.
- Robert Scoble
@scobleizer: Their recommendation algorithm is so basic ! based only on how "popular" were those users... I won't trust a redcommended "to block" list if they implement it
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
maybe FF can just slightly lighten the color of a blocked person's text each time someone blocks them, so by the time 10 people block them, their messages are #FFFFFF ;-) Hmmm why is this text in gray? lol
- Karim
@yesthatkarim: That's called karma. And karma, Karim, is a bad thing :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Shouldn't it be up to the individual to figure it out for themselves? FF is filled with intelligent folks with common sense...
- Mona Nomura
Fortunately I haven't encountered any spammers here on FF yet. If I ever end up on someone's $#!+ list though, I hope someone tells me about it. Don't worry, my ego won't be hurt. I got a bottle in the cupboard I've been just dying to dive into anyways so I'll be ok ;-)
- Paul Short
Paul: If I drank everytime someone put me on their #$% list I'd be alcoholic. :-) Mona: of course, but I just thought it was fun that FriendFeed has a recommended list, which is really a popularity thing, but doesn't tell you the other end of the scale, those people who got blocked a lot.
- Robert Scoble
@scobleizer: We once discussed about popularity and interests. I created a way to see who's intersting for you on FriendFeed. I humbly think that it's the way things should work :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I know... but in high school I made a lot of people feel crappy and vice versa. This is the internet, but e-feelings DO matter, don't they? i mean I don't have 16k + followers but imagine how you would feel if you were put up on that list... Those people are black listed for a reason and if anything, it'd fuel their negative attention whoring even more, no?
- Mona Nomura
This goes against the entire spirit of social networks.. Hope none of the social networks do this.
- Muthu Ramadoss
Robert, just like HR departments can't say anything negative about former employees without risking liability, maybe it wouldn't be right for FF to formally blacklist people.
- Sprague D
I don't understand how this goes against social media. Social media is all about using society to circulate, comment, and recommend media. Noting things that the majority doesn't like should be part of that.
- xero
Sprague, Muthu, and Mona: you're right. It's a bad idea. It would actually reinforce negative behaviors, too. Sorry. Sometimes my thoughts aren't good. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Though, it could be easily abused... Better ignored than actively blocked.
- xero
I'm guessing because they don't want to be sued.
- Morton Fox
I'm with@muthu - one of the things I love about FF is that it lets people tailor the experience for themselves. I would leave if they began instituting some kind of official recommendations on who to block and who not to block
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Don't stop thinking out loud, though.
- Chris Baskind
Just like in society, you can pick and choose who you want to interact with..... "hide" or "block" are two extremely useful features!
- Mona Nomura
Robert: FF is the only place i've ever been able to have civil discussion on the internet haha. Regardless of if I agree or disagree, I think it's great you just say whatever is on your mind.... I guess that's why you're.. what was that word? A Technical Evangelist... HA
- Mona Nomura
it would just cause a person to create a new account the moment they got the hint of mass blocking. I would say it should be a third party gem.
- InsaneNinja
from fftogo
After thinking about this, an *unpopularity* list may not be such a good idea. Personally, I still follow and read people here and on other services that the community at large have declared to be trolls, unpopular, or whatever. I still find their stuff interesting, in a slowing-down-to-see-the-wreck sort of way. "One mans garbage is another mans gold... and all that. But that's just me...
- Paul Short
Why does it recommend people but not say why they are recommended. Just because someone is an A list blogger, doesn't mean they blog about stuff you are interested in. Why not do it like Google reader and recommend people based on what they blog about (ie. photos, tech, politics, etc)
- CJPhoto
Scoble, how do you know a person is blocked by other people? (I gotta say, I generally don't have that problem though, as I first read a person's stream before making a decision.)
- Vincent van Wylick
The last thing I'd want is new users assuming that the admins of FriendFeed are personally deciding who's worthy and who isn't around here. The only way it would work is if FriendFeed was completely transparent with the metrics used to determine who is on the Yea list and who is on the Nay list. Even then, I still think it's a bad idea: new users should be allowed to discover things for themselves without preconception. Remember, let each user shape the noise.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I thinking following and blocking are something each individual needs to sort through. I have followed, unfollowed, and then re-followed a few people who irritated me with some comments, or just began a spammy incoherent noise fest. Other I just grew weary of hearing the same strident message on a daily basis.
- Michael VanDervort
from twhirl
Ah, so if the A-List is dead, then we need to get working on the Z-list to preserve our need for hierarchy.
- Michael Markman
Isn't the recommended list just a list of people who appear most often on the friend lists of your current friends? What would the not recommended list be - a list people that aren't on the friend list of any of your friends? A bit too xenophobic perhaps?
- Brian Sullivan
something against newbies? the most blocking-worth people on FF are some of the so-called blogstars, imho.
- Davide Tarasconi
from twhirl
Might as well add a "karma/digg" system to Friendfeed users. Then we can battle each-other RPG style. Pissed someone off? -1 point.
- Czar
We'll need something eventually. The spammers are going to start spamming friend requests soon enough. I've already had to deal with spam on twitter, and I have very few people I'm following.
- Mr. Gunn
"the Plurk crowd is far more mainstream then the mix you see on other services." I think that's what people are missing. Plurk's whole look and feel has a very MySpace/LiveJournal look to it. Something that doesn't appeal to myself and, probably a lot of others on the "tech space" (or whatever you want to call it). Plurk is more or less for people who might not quite understand why the...
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- Candace
Every comment here proves the exact line that Plurk is a mainstream service :-) I'm not seeing tech people on there, all my non-techie friends love it.
- Duncan Riley
@duncanriley: I have an account. I used it once to say that I won't use it. I don't like things that are unusable. I don't like the "karma" notion. I don't like many things, including the fact that I'm loosing my hair everyday more :(
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
I finally succumbed to peer pressure and signed up. Whoo hoo! More time suck!
- Robyn Miller
Ok, I've been thinking a lot about sites like plurk, myspace and facebook, all of which I myself find really freaking annoying to use and cumbersome as hell. Yet the mainstream people or people I'd look at as novice or noob internet users love that sort of thing. Seems the more complicated *I* think it is, the more that other demographic loves it. They seem to get off on it.
- Paul Short
directeur, try the mobile version or via Plurkair, I'm more comfortable with a Twitter style layout. What I'd say to everyone though: just because you don't like it doesn't mean others don't...this is never going to be a first adopter/ geek service...nor does it have to be
- Duncan Riley
I tried Plurk. Heard about it on TWiT and thought I'd give it a shot. That was the first and last time I will use it. It's definitely for a younger crowd. My Sixteen year old cousin thinks it's great.
- Candace
I'm excited for Plurker (http://is.gd/S5y). I'd like a more Twitter-like interface, and the mobile version is too primitive
- pb30
I think I'm riding the same boat Paul is on. The more complicated the service appears for the "techie" crowd the more mainstream it turns out to be. Weirdness!
- Scott Jarkoff
@Candance Holly sorry Candance, just because PLURK is more emotional and creative than other services doesnt mean the Plurk crowd know nothing why iPhone is such a big thing, or why MAC vs PC is such a debate that will never end. To me your words sound like having prejudice against creative playfull stuff and their users. Sure the Plurk interface needs some corrections... like a better timeline, ect. MY resume is: Plurk is nice and gives you a chance being creative every time you log in. I prefere twitter.
- Margit Hinke
tried it - still have an acct and folks still follow me but i'm a non-active user - figured i'm not in the target demo is all - i can see how it will appeal to some especially non-twitter & friendfeed inclined folk
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mack, back in 1999/2000 I lived at 11708 124th st. in Edmonton. Place was a dump but the restaurant on the corner just north of me had the best darn grilled chicken ceasar I've ever had
- Paul Short
Hmm...remember what it was called? I'll have to take a look around there.
- Mack D. Male