"When you’ve only got 140 characters to work with, having a good URL shortening service is essential on Twitter. The default Bit.ly service is actually pretty long compared to some of the alternatives. I rounded up some of the best last year and concluded that is.gd was the best if brevity was important to you. Now a new service has launched that takes things probably as short as they can possibly get. 3.ly URLs are just 14 characters long compared to is.gd’s 17. It’s all a bit bare-bones at the moment, it has URL customisation as an option but there’s no click-tracking, a feature offered by some of its rivals. The website promises advanced features coming soon, though. Can URLs get even shorter? I’m not sure they can but given the popularity of Twitter I’m sure someone’s working on it."
- Martin Bryant
from Bookmarklet
impressive! does it also track links like bit.ly?
- sushaantu
Not yet, but they're saying 'advanced features' are coming.
- Martin Bryant
Maybe the emergence of all these services is an indication of a larger issue: the need to kill the URL or change the existing domain name system that is in place today. I have no idea what that would be and I know it's a crazy idea but I heard Kevin Rose talking about this on a recent podcast so it got me thinking. In addition, maybe it's also an indication that the URL should somehow...
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- Mike Bracco
+1 Mike. URL shorteners are a band-aid. We need something drastic.
- Blake
Mike: funny you should say that - when I was writing this post I was thinking of describing it as a 'race to zero', when URLs won't use up any characters. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens sometime, somehow.
- Martin Bryant
You need an easy way to represent IP addresses and right now URLs do it just fine. I think Twitter's popularity will fade long before someone re-invents the way we talk to other computers on the webz.
- Mitch
Martin: indeed. It's kind of funny, and not to turn this into a religious discussion, but it reminds me of something I just read in the God Delusion where Richard Dawkins talks about the evolution of religion and how the movement from polytheism and monotheism and how it's likely that monotheism will evolve further to remove one more god. But to bring it back the the URL, I think the...
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- Mike Bracco
URLs also provide a level of trust and security. When I type https://mail.google.com I know exactly where I'm going and I know my login will be secure. If something new comes along it had better provide me a way to navigate that precisely.
- Mitch
As an aside, does anyone know if this URL shorteners have been hacked? That would be the ultimate hack, imagine if a site hacked bit.ly and redirected all their shortened URLs to a certain website. I think relying on these operations can be risky. I know bit.ly has got 2.5mil in VC money I believe but who knows about their long term viability.
- Mike Bracco
Mike: I do worry about that, which is why I always try to preview the link. FriendFeed usually does this, as do some of the Twitter clients.
- Martin Bryant
Now that everyone can get a TLD, couldn't someone sponsor a .url tld so that the entire domain name is a short URL. This entry might be http://b8x2e.url/. Only disadvantage is that you can't go case sensitive.
- Guan Yang
Yes, I do like that feature in things like TweetDeck. I was thinking more from a long term perspective when all of this real time information is indexed and then you search it - let's say a year later. If bit.ly is no longer around hypothetically in a year, then all of that indexed data is pretty much useless b/c the links are no longer valid.
- Mike Bracco
Guan: have you checked out awe.sm - that is what techcrunch uses to get the tcrn.ch URL. I think it's somewhat simular to what you describe. It's an URL shorter for your own domain. Check out TechCrunch's article - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Mike Bracco
Hmmm no bookmarklet? That's odd for a shortening service
- LANjackal
Funny, http://u.nu said they were the shortest. (btw, I'm liking it)
- Bwana ☠
u.nu has better features but the URLs are a couple of characters longer. I suppose it just depends how much space you have spare for the URL.
- Martin Bryant
Why would 3.ly launch its product without a competitive set of features? Seems like they're just asking to be overlooked.
- Mitch
LouCypher: Thanks for those, but I've just tested them and only r.im produce shorter URLs and they can't have many of those to offer, with just one character after their domain - they'll run out in no time. 3.ly will run out of two-character URLs quite quickly too, I imagine.
- Martin Bryant
@Martin: that depends on how many times people use the service. The more people use it, the longer URLs they get.
- LouCypher
LouCypher: My point precisely - the short URLs won't last long.
- Martin Bryant
Thanks for all the comments everyone. We have implemented an excellent Bookmarklet and have also included a preview with hit counter. We are now developing a user area for detailed Threely Tracking. Please stay tuned, and please let us know what you think about our services, we will greatly appreciated it. Thank you, Threely - 3.ly
- 3.ly URL Shortener
from Moopz
Yes, I am one of the 3%. I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "blame Scoble. He's technically difficult and weird." (Actually that was a Facebook employee who said that, but it fits here too).
3% of Twitter users is a lot, especially since they're probably the most active. Unlike the half of Twitterers that leave after one week #3%
- Laaabaseball
Yes, I am definitely in the 3%. Thanks for the link Ryan! #fixreplies #3% ;-)
- Seth Blank
I was one of the 3%. I'm surprised that number is so low considering how passionate everyone was about the change. Although, I encountered maaany people angry about it but didn't even know what the change was.
- Lise
I am surprised it's that low, too. We sure are loud for 3%. I wonder what percentage we are of active users, though, as opposed to total signups?
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The bigger problem is that the 3% were the vast majority of the early adopters who helped increase twitter's value in the first place.
- Seth Blank
Jandy: out of 1,000 people who visit Twitter, only 10% probably make ANY noise at all and probably only 10% of those (1%) are people like us. So, 3%? That's a LOT of noisy people!
- Robert Scoble
Seth: and that's the deeper problem. Twitter doesn't care about early adopters anymore and have made several moves that communicate that.
- Robert Scoble
If you are going to be at gnomedex, I have a friend who makes T-Shirts, need a cool graphic but I'll print them and bring them.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Is this the right assumption I answered a query just now. Or am I among the people who did not understand the change? "@beeebzzz This reply can not be seen by my followers who are not following you. If I understand it right"
- Gunnar Engblom
Thanks for all who recommended them to me. I just received my first shipment of t-shirts, mug, and stickers. Top notch quality even on the cheapest t-shirt. Thanks again.
- Bwana ☠
from Bookmarklet
If only they shipped at a decent rate to India...
- Yuvi
Holy Crap... Don't lie to me on this... I just placed first order from our cafepress store and the stuff was shit... is Zazzle really better???
- Cody Heitschmidt
I just made a Zazzle order yesterday, too - so this is very good news. I even went with an uber-super soft t-shirt.
- l0ckergn0me
I've only used them to buy photo stamps and calendars (which have been great), but have sold other items including t-shirts and cards which have received good comments on the quality.
- cmiper
I have gotten a few custom shirts and hoodies from them and they have been of a consistently good quality and they also deliver when they say they will... FF meets eBay.
- Scott Lockhart
I have been tempted to give them a try, and now i will. CafePress isn't the best but they seem to keep improving over time.
- Eric_T
How do you feel about selecting shipping for each item? Is it weird in this Amazonian age that we live in now?
- Johan