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WOT, no Linux support? FAIL! - Chris J. Miller
But the Firewire 800 version cuts down bonsai trees at like twice the speed! - Micah Wittman
Martin Bryant
"When you’ve only got 140 characters to work with, having a good URL shortening service is essential on Twitter. The default Bit.ly service is actually pretty long compared to some of the alternatives. I rounded up some of the best last year and concluded that is.gd was the best if brevity was important to you. Now a new service has launched that takes things probably as short as they can possibly get. 3.ly URLs are just 14 characters long compared to is.gd’s 17. It’s all a bit bare-bones at the moment, it has URL customisation as an option but there’s no click-tracking, a feature offered by some of its rivals. The website promises advanced features coming soon, though. Can URLs get even shorter? I’m not sure they can but given the popularity of Twitter I’m sure someone’s working on it." - Martin Bryant from Bookmarklet
This is insane, and not in a good way. - Mitch
impressive! does it also track links like bit.ly? - sushaantu
Not yet, but they're saying 'advanced features' are coming. - Martin Bryant
Maybe the emergence of all these services is an indication of a larger issue: the need to kill the URL or change the existing domain name system that is in place today. I have no idea what that would be and I know it's a crazy idea but I heard Kevin Rose talking about this on a recent podcast so it got me thinking. In addition, maybe it's also an indication that the URL should somehow... more... - Mike Bracco
+1 Mike. URL shorteners are a band-aid. We need something drastic. - Blake
Mike: funny you should say that - when I was writing this post I was thinking of describing it as a 'race to zero', when URLs won't use up any characters. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens sometime, somehow. - Martin Bryant
AOL keywords, anyone? - Mitch
@Mitch... haha. I was JUST thinking that. - Blake
You need an easy way to represent IP addresses and right now URLs do it just fine. I think Twitter's popularity will fade long before someone re-invents the way we talk to other computers on the webz. - Mitch
Martin: indeed. It's kind of funny, and not to turn this into a religious discussion, but it reminds me of something I just read in the God Delusion where Richard Dawkins talks about the evolution of religion and how the movement from polytheism and monotheism and how it's likely that monotheism will evolve further to remove one more god. But to bring it back the the URL, I think the... more... - Mike Bracco
URLs also provide a level of trust and security. When I type https://mail.google.com I know exactly where I'm going and I know my login will be secure. If something new comes along it had better provide me a way to navigate that precisely. - Mitch
As an aside, does anyone know if this URL shorteners have been hacked? That would be the ultimate hack, imagine if a site hacked bit.ly and redirected all their shortened URLs to a certain website. I think relying on these operations can be risky. I know bit.ly has got 2.5mil in VC money I believe but who knows about their long term viability. - Mike Bracco
Mike: I do worry about that, which is why I always try to preview the link. FriendFeed usually does this, as do some of the Twitter clients. - Martin Bryant
Now that everyone can get a TLD, couldn't someone sponsor a .url tld so that the entire domain name is a short URL. This entry might be http://b8x2e.url/. Only disadvantage is that you can't go case sensitive. - Guan Yang
Yes, I do like that feature in things like TweetDeck. I was thinking more from a long term perspective when all of this real time information is indexed and then you search it - let's say a year later. If bit.ly is no longer around hypothetically in a year, then all of that indexed data is pretty much useless b/c the links are no longer valid. - Mike Bracco
Guan: have you checked out awe.sm - that is what techcrunch uses to get the tcrn.ch URL. I think it's somewhat simular to what you describe. It's an URL shorter for your own domain. Check out TechCrunch's article - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Mike Bracco
Hmmm no bookmarklet? That's odd for a shortening service - LANjackal
Funny, http://u.nu said they were the shortest. (btw, I'm liking it) - Bwana ☠
http://u.nu is better in my opinion just because of the bookmarklet. - Diego Espinoza V.
u.nu has better features but the URLs are a couple of characters longer. I suppose it just depends how much space you have spare for the URL. - Martin Bryant
Why would 3.ly launch its product without a competitive set of features? Seems like they're just asking to be overlooked. - Mitch
LouCypher: Thanks for those, but I've just tested them and only r.im produce shorter URLs and they can't have many of those to offer, with just one character after their domain - they'll run out in no time. 3.ly will run out of two-character URLs quite quickly too, I imagine. - Martin Bryant
@Martin: that depends on how many times people use the service. The more people use it, the longer URLs they get. - LouCypher
LouCypher: My point precisely - the short URLs won't last long. - Martin Bryant
*nods* - LouCypher
Thanks for all the comments everyone. We have implemented an excellent Bookmarklet and have also included a preview with hit counter. We are now developing a user area for detailed Threely Tracking. Please stay tuned, and please let us know what you think about our services, we will greatly appreciated it. Thank you, Threely - 3.ly - 3.ly URL Shortener from Moopz
Trish R
Before you whine about Friendfeed and how mean everyone is to you and no one ever comments on your posts, blah blah blah, go back to your own feed, measure your interaction here, take a look at your own contributions and look at how often you comment and interact with OTHERS.
sheepishly looks - LPH™ and his dog P™
LPH, your post was about your frustration with real-time, which isn't what I'm talking about. - Trish R
Word. I'm so sick and tired of the whinefest of this. 97% of the time, I had never even heard of those people before they posted no one's paying attention to them. Go look at their stats and their feeds are mostly just dumps, hardly any comments or likes. Even more aggravating? The people who signed up like 3 days ago. The post to Twitter, "I don't get FF, it's sucks." And then you look at who they're subbed to and most them are dumpers too. - Anika
@LPH why? - Amir
I've felt terrible for 2 days and asked on here if the idea of FF is dead - I've since started to hide twitter replies and the home view is finally starting to "feel" like the old FF -- Yep Trish - I knew that - I was just making sure I wasn't being negative :) - LPH™ and his dog P™
It's getting ridiculous. Make your own experience, don't expect others to make it for you. LPH, I have done the same thing. I was also frustrated with real-time and finally created a separate list for people who just dump their Twitter feed here and don't interact or participate. It helped my frustration level a LOT. - Trish R
I've dedicated myself to making better comments on other people's entries - even with my current interaction level - so expect some more "It's more fun with your arms up like this" from me ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™
LOL. I was referring to the "woe is me" posts where people are continually posting "NO ONE EVER COMMENTS ON MY FEED, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LIKE ME AND WHY CAN'T I BE POPULAR BOO HOO HOO!" - Trish R
"... I post really COOL stuff, but why don't you people realize it." - Ken Sheppardson
Trish - yep - I was just thinking out loud. TOL is dangerous ;) - LPH™ and his dog P™
agreed trish, they are time wasters - i usually unsub from them and if they keep popping up via foaf they get poofed (blocked) - there's no whining in ff ;) - mike "glemak" dunn
If one only has X minutes every few days to spend on FriendFeed, I'll bet the most satisfying way to use it would be to just set up some saved searches for topics that are central to what you do off-FriendFeed, and just Like and comment on those to promote them. Not *your* entries, other peoples' entries. Everything else sort of flows from there. - Ken Sheppardson
agreed ken - saved searches are very powerful, i use them to find new folks to sub to as well - mike "glemak" dunn
Ken, is there a room for suggested searches? - LPH™ and his dog P™
Akiva and Alex Scoble HATE me! *sob* - Mike Nayyar
Well - Call me shiftless - there is a room for saved searches - http://friendfeed.com/ffss - LPH™ and his dog P™
nice lph - thanks for finding that :) - mike "glemak" dunn
I've got my fingers crossed hoping that the next major feature FF rolls out is real time Saved Searches... and for you non-real-timers ;-)... notifications on saved searches. Once you can choose to be notified by email, IM, or the FF desktop notifier when a new entry shows up that matches a saved search, we're going to see another shift in the way people use FriendFeed on the same scale as the intro of real timeiness :-) - Ken Sheppardson
There's not enough smart conversation, there's not enough fun conversation, there's too much Twitter, there's not enough Twitter people, there's too much information, there's too little information, too much in main feed, too much hidden in groups, just A-listers, just unknowns, too much being imported, not enough being imported. AAAAHHHHHH! - Eric @ CS Techcast
Eric: Deep breaths. - Ken Sheppardson
Speaking to the initial post: You're absolutely right. Someone last night mentioned that the length of conversations were getting short yet over that past year I've seldom seen this person comment on or like any of my posts. I held my comments. - Christopher Harley
I just think people should use FF however they want and stop worrying about doing it wrong or trying to find ways to get the feedback they want. Isn't it like anything else? We're all different, don't compare yourself to anyone else and you'll be much happier. - Trish R
^WORD^ I see the self-important announcing that they're blocking this service or that. Which makes the insecure worry, "Should I even import this service since people are blocking it?" Pfffft. Block away. Chances are if you block all Twitter imports I'll never have to deal with your stupid comments anyway. That makes *me* happy. - Anika
What Abby said... :) - JA Castillo
Anika: As one of the people who hides Twitter stuff unless they have Comments/likes and who suggests that as something people should try if they feel overwhelmed... should I take that personally? :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Sure, Ken. Go ahead. :) I offend all kinds of people by saying what I feel. I lack tact and diplomacy for the most part. To know me, is to love me. - Anika
Pours Trish a Jack and Coke. *cheers* - Derrick
::stands up and claps:: - David Cook
I AM SO LEAVING FF OVER THIS POST! - Mark Wilson
Anika: Cool. I will then. ;-) In my defense... :-) ... I say when in doubt, import everything, and let people use lists, groups, and searches to try to work the stream down to something manageable. I guess when you mix trying to offer suggestions with the fact that I'm not a Twitter fan, it could come across as self-important. Hm. - Ken Sheppardson
Mark: Buh bye. - Trish R
Also, if someone complains that a service lacks quality content, then it is up to him/her to push some quality content if he/she is the one to tell what is "quality" in the first place. - Jemm
*fistbump* Jemm. - Anika
i hope this message manages to get to the people who usually aren't commenting or liking these threads. the ones who have are the ones who seem to understand this service. weirds me out when i read people's comments on twitter on how they don't understand what purpose friendfeed serves. these are the same kind of people who label themselves "marketing/social media experts" too! - Cee Bee
Wow - You.
try visiting the friendfeed feeback room -- it's flooded with requests from people who don't seem to grab the full potential of friendfeed. i get the feeling that many see this site in a rather narrow kind of way and demand all kinds of things from it that already exist or that are superfluous to the service itself - Cee Bee
The more we strive to catch the attention the more elusive it gets. It is like a shadow that follows in the light of knowledge. - ashish
@Christopher - I am guessing that the person you were referring to is me, and if that's the case as far as the lack of commenting and liking stuff in your feed it probably has to do exactly with the problem I was trying to point out from the other side, ie that MY attention allotment for your feed is significantly less than it was before RT and the Twitter influx and therefore I'm just... more... - Her Lindsay-ness
Great advice, you get back from a community what you put in--look at Derrick! - susan mernit
*looks at Derrick* - Trish R
Derrick is trying to get his rib on at the moment. - Alex Scoble
Ken, I agree with you 100%. That's not to say I don't block services, I do. But my original point was more to those who feel the need to announce they're blocking the service and those who feel insecure because one person said it = everyone is doing it. And as I said, if everyone was blocking my Seesmic videos or whatever, I don't care. I've only done 2 Seesmic videos for someone on FF. All the other ones are people who actively use Seesmic. - Anika
I love you, Trish. That is all. - DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Yea but in all honesty I comment on a lot of posts try to interact but my feed usually remains untouched. It is no big deal to me anymore, but it really just a popularity contest around here IMO. It's fine though for me. - orionstarr
What Trish said. - Steven Perez
U don't like it, leave. - orionstarr
Susan! Good to see you, sugar. :) And yeah, I got my bbq on. Looking for Tums right now. - Derrick
You go gurl!!! - kooder
I hear ya. I can't see how people take these services so seriously. If ones time is really that precious then I'd imagine they wouldn't be social networking to begin with. Tender ego's I'm guessing. - Adi
This should be in the Terms of Use. After which it should rwad, "then go hell aka Twitter" - sofarsoShawn
Robert Scoble
Yes, I am one of the 3%. I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "blame Scoble. He's technically difficult and weird." (Actually that was a Facebook employee who said that, but it fits here too).
Join the 3% Club. Tweet the hashtag #3% so everyone knows who we are. - Ryan Kuder
I already blame you for a number of things - http://seanreiser.com/node... - Bastard Operator From FF
We love you Robert ;) - Vlad Zabblotskyy
Link to something explaining the 3%? Google is useless :-( - Seth Blank
Will these t-shirts be for sale?! - Fred Garrett
I was one of the 3% too. Will proudly wear the shirt. - Jared Smith
Love the #3% hashtag idea - Bailey McCann
3% of Twitter users is a lot, especially since they're probably the most active. Unlike the half of Twitterers that leave after one week #3% - Laaabaseball
Yes, I am definitely in the 3%. Thanks for the link Ryan! #fixreplies #3% ;-) - Seth Blank
I was one of the 3%. I'm surprised that number is so low considering how passionate everyone was about the change. Although, I encountered maaany people angry about it but didn't even know what the change was. - Lise
I am surprised it's that low, too. We sure are loud for 3%. I wonder what percentage we are of active users, though, as opposed to total signups? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
The bigger problem is that the 3% were the vast majority of the early adopters who helped increase twitter's value in the first place. - Seth Blank
Jandy: out of 1,000 people who visit Twitter, only 10% probably make ANY noise at all and probably only 10% of those (1%) are people like us. So, 3%? That's a LOT of noisy people! - Robert Scoble
Seth: and that's the deeper problem. Twitter doesn't care about early adopters anymore and have made several moves that communicate that. - Robert Scoble
If you are going to be at gnomedex, I have a friend who makes T-Shirts, need a cool graphic but I'll print them and bring them. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
I probably shouldn't... but I will. http://blamescoble.com/permali... - Phil Crissman
@jared - brilliant :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Is this the right assumption I answered a query just now. Or am I among the people who did not understand the change? "@beeebzzz This reply can not be seen by my followers who are not following you. If I understand it right" - Gunnar Engblom
Bwana ☠
I'm very impressed with Zazzle's quality of goods! - http://www.zazzle.com/mk...
I'm very impressed with Zazzle's quality of goods!
Thanks for all who recommended them to me. I just received my first shipment of t-shirts, mug, and stickers. Top notch quality even on the cheapest t-shirt. Thanks again. - Bwana ☠ from Bookmarklet
You like? - l0ckergn0me
Yah man. Going to do a video on it. Definitely a nice departure from the cheap quality of cafepress - Bwana ☠
Ah...gonna have to check this out. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
If only they shipped at a decent rate to India... - Yuvi
Holy Crap... Don't lie to me on this... I just placed first order from our cafepress store and the stuff was shit... is Zazzle really better??? - Cody Heitschmidt
I just made a Zazzle order yesterday, too - so this is very good news. I even went with an uber-super soft t-shirt. - l0ckergn0me
I've only used them to buy photo stamps and calendars (which have been great), but have sold other items including t-shirts and cards which have received good comments on the quality. - cmiper
I have gotten a few custom shirts and hoodies from them and they have been of a consistently good quality and they also deliver when they say they will... FF meets eBay. - Scott Lockhart
I have been tempted to give them a try, and now i will. CafePress isn't the best but they seem to keep improving over time. - Eric_T
How do you feel about selecting shipping for each item? Is it weird in this Amazonian age that we live in now? - Johan
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