I like having each service as an individual contact. Much easier. Can we see the same for Pownce?
- Chris Nixon
Well, IMified has taken bot to a next level.. I even created a customized option to check my google calendar appointments for today (a quick schedule for today) by interacting with bot! Not sure, if they have one for Pownce..
- Jigar Mehta
from bTT
One year later. Just bumping this because it's the one year anniversary of the only item on FriendFeed to get more than 400 likes. (452 at the moment)
- Ken Sheppardson
"Let me be as clear as possible," Obama said. "I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."
- MG Siegler
from Bookmarklet
Admire that approach, wish more were like it
- Sally Church
Class, yes. If the unlikely story that she lied about her pregnancy is true, it becomes a part of our politics, unfortunately, as it shows her level of integrity.
- EricaJoy
Palin's views on reproductive rights, marriage, contraception, single parenthood, and what is considered "legitimate" and "shameful" therein could soon become a matter of law - so if her family is off-limits, ours certainly won't be. Just something to keep in mind!
- joneilortiz
Didn't Obama say he wouldn't want his daughters to 'pay for a mistake with a baby?' That's not making them off limits, that's using their reproductive rights for his own agenda - just like Palin.
- MLx
joneilortiz , there are 3 branches of America's government. Mrs. Palin will serve in a subordinate position in the executive branch. For her views to become a matter of law, even if she were to become President, would literally require an act of Congress and the Judicial branch would have to uphold it. ie, it aint gonna happen.
- Mattb4rd
-1 joneilortiz. Presidents, and especially vice presidents, do not create laws. They can bring proposals to Congress but it's up to Congress, with a current Democratic majority, mind you, to actually create the laws. Just something to keep in mind.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I hate everything the man stands for, and yet I believe him when he makes this request.
- Trevor Carpenter
If, after the last 8 years especially, you don't think the Executive Branch has tremendous effect on what becomes law - Supreme Court justices are appointed, don't forget - then you are simply misinformed. Abortion rights and accessibility, for instance, have been whittled down through all sorts of measures that work in and around legislative action. Federal funding of faith-based programs, which effect reproductive rights tremendously, have of late been the work of the Executive Branch.
- joneilortiz
@Mattb4rd: didn't you hear that the VP is no longer considered part of the executive branch?
- Jim Norris
@Jim Norris: No, I haven't heard that one. What's the punchline?
- Mattb4rd
joneilortiz, that's a different issue all together and a very important one. You're never really voting for a president, you're voting for the Chief Justices he appoints. However, even they do not make law; they interpret it. It's just, uh, as of late, they've been making quite a miserable job of it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
@Jim Oh, that's right! lol @Akiva Ya, totally. Hopefully we'll get to a place where the executive branch doesn't have their hands in all the books!
- joneilortiz
Very classy. The fact is, its none of our business. Even if the crazy, cruel stories going about were true, I could not fault a mother for protecting her family.
- jcunwired
@Mattb4rd/Akiva, don't be silly. The very purpose of running someone as Vice/President is so that their views become law. 'Become,' you will note, as a rather broad term. The constitutional details you refer to are of little relevance to any White House whose party has a bunch of people in Congress.
- j1m
@Jody, but I could fault her for lying about it to the public and press. (Assuming she did, not saying she did.) It's also a matter of judgment. The choices she supposedly made tell a lot about her character. Lying is lying, whether it's to protect your daughter or to keep your wife from knowing you got a BJ.
- Jeff P. Henderson
@Trevor, You hate everything he stands for? Why? What is it you think he stands for?
- Tanath
Matt, I think your commitment to being out front and transparent with users is awesome. You are a busy guy, but we on the outside appreciate you taking the time to address stuff in a clear way that doesn't reek of PR disinfectants.
- Christopher Sacca
I think when Gmail was first introduced there was a simlar disclaimer-like line in terms mentioning that Google reserved itself a right to screen all emails to and fro the user registered with it. There were even an article or two crying foul on Gmail censorship. See how we all got used to it now and never even remember :)
- Hayk H.
Thanks, Sacca. It's weird because I consciously don't want to be a Google fanboy, but Chrome just rocks so hard that it's difficult to stay neutral. It's just really exciting to share one of Google's greatest long-time secrets with the world today.
- Matt Cutts
It's better for the internet on the whole. It's a drastic optimization for modern content aggregation. It'd cut way back on power consumption by dedicating less computer power and network power to asking the same question and getting the same answer several times an hour. It also frees up those resources to be used for something else, like cancer research or streaming HD video.
- xero
Meh, replace 'faster rss reader' with "widget/badges/chiclet" and you may be onto something ;)
- Will DeLuca
Ah. It's a green thing. I was wondering why I balked at it. I looked at the specs, and it seemed like a great deal of work for very little reward on my end.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
@Zee at WeDoCreative (zee): Tell you what ... get FriendFeed to consolidate references to the same URL instead of putting thirty copies of anything new in my feed. That alone would save billions of murdered electrons an hour and still be useful.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
Did you upgrade to the latest firmware? I had this same problem but it was fixed when I upgraded my iTouch. Maybe the phone works differently...
- Eric Geller
I was going to make a smart comment about the implications of tweeting a device, but I follow @MarsPhoenix :)
- Mattb4rd
i really dont get why the update/backup process can take FOREVER, its not a lot of data. processor on phone must be S L O W
- sean percival
Agreed. WTF is up with that backup?! I'm on the 2.0.2 and almost every time I sync, backup kicks in and seems to think it needs to dump the entire phone. Why isn't it an incremental? And I really don't care that content I upload from iTunes is backed up. It's already in my iTunes. Just backup the settings. /sigh
- ·[▪_▪]·
I've restored my iPhone 3 times in the last 2 days. The Apple logo of death showed up after a sync. Some app is making the springboard crash resulting in an endless loop of restarting. I'm only installing a small amount of apps until there's an update.
- Rodfather
No problems here. Takes less than a minute to sync and back up. Y'know you can cancel the back up by clicking on the (X) beside the "Backing Up" text?
- Paul Reynolds
I always just cancel it now, with as many apps as I have it seems to take over an hour, who can spare that much time?!
- Socom
I've been canceling backup most of the time but I try to let it go once a week or so just to see if the next time it'll go fast. Nope. Always takes about an hour.
- ·[▪_▪]·
This especially bothers me in the morning, when I want to make one last sync before I get on the road, and of course am running late . . .
- Peter Ghosh
LOL! Really! I'm glad I did not get one of the new iPhones. I hope things get better with software upgrades.
- Ric
Try syncing on a Mac that only has USB 1.1... :/
- Jason Wong
I twittered Veronica this but I figured all the people joining the chorus would find this useful. Here is an article from Gizmodo on how to disable the backup process on Macs. http://gizmodo.com/5029121...
- EJ Finneran
"So we're trying something new: we're going to list some of the ideas we've been waiting to see, but only describe them in general terms. It may be that recipes for ideas are the most useful form anyway, because imaginative people will take them in directions we didn't anticipate."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Good ideas, mostly. Of course, as always, the devil is in the details (and to some extent, I think that's the point).
- Paul Buchheit
interesting list, surprised to see photo/video sharing sites on there.
- Adam Kazwell
From pg's comment "Most people who read that one [search engine that concentrates on design] will think "huh?" But if someone reads it and thinks "Damn, how did he hear about what we're working on?" that's someone we'd really love to hear from."
- seman
"More open alternatives to Wikipedia." Wonder whatever happened to Google Knol...
- Philipp Lenssen
They should start FF rooms for each of these. I'd contribute to a few.
- Amir Gharaat
I think most of these are *great* ideas. This post isn't food for thought, it's a banquet :-)
- Karim
Seems a little like bait? Some of the ideas are excellent reading and should be interesting to a few thinking about 'what they can do better'. Some of the other mentions (and wording in particular) leads me to wonder why go public with the list.
- Charlie Anzman
Related problem: Using your inbox as a to-do list. The solution is probably to acknowledge this rather than prevent it. --- :-)
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Jesus, this single page has more original content and ideas than the last 1000 ff and blog posts I read. Inspiring.
- John Murray
AWESOME idea, thanks for sharing Paul... this is going to be fun to watch!
- Susan Beebe
Haha i posted thast too. Although Paul is most more visible on FF, of course.
- Akshay Dodeja
did any of the y combinator startup go big ? perhaps an ignorant question... a couple of them i know of are scribd.com, and a search engine for mechanical parts.. forgot the name.
- Krishna Gade
Interesting: "Advertising could be made much better if it tried to please its audience, instead of treating them like victims who deserve x amount of abuse in return for whatever free site they're getting. ... What we have now is basically print and TV advertising translated to the web. " How does TV advertising treat its audience better than web advertising?
- Constantinos Michael
TV advertising is generally more entertaining than web advertising.
- Ajay Kapal
@ Peter yeah... I was talking about octopart thanks for the link.
- Krishna Gade
@ Ryan, what is it ? do you have something outside to try ?
- Krishna Gade
yes, it's true. Viacom filed multiple bogus DMCA claims against us for an event that they invited us to. This has cost us money and killed our Youtube account for two days and counting. horrible
- Jason Calacanis
from Bookmarklet
I read that Mahalo isnt suing and I applaud that. Calacanis always seemed fairly stand up and not suing is the stand up thing to do. Just keep the we want sushi attitude and it will do you more good.
- Cody Heitschmidt
Maybe YouTube can make up for the error by Featuring Mahalo Daily on their Front page for a couple days
- Jeff Hoard
from twhirl
the dummies at youtube just hit suspend, suspend, suspend w/o asking questions or doing a little investigation. a bit like facebook now that I think of it....right scoble?
- Brian Ries
Jason, I take that you've filed a DMCA counter claim
- Duncan Riley
Wow. And I thought it was exciting when we moms got suspended for our breast feeding montage....
- Erin @queenofspain
Can't wait to read the next revision of the Viacom page on Mahalo. ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
Jason, just make a custom channel at www.magnify.net and scrap Youtube.
- Jim Kukral
from twhirl
Breaking: Jason Calacanis quits digital video. Will now only show film via Drive-in theater :)
- Andrew Smith
"filed multiple bogus DMCA claims" - the key word here is bogus - fr what I under stand this implies that Viacoms Legal Consul (A) does not know DMCA laws (b), did not do a due dilgence revie before filing DMCA. Did they not contacting you with a C&D prior to the DMCA notice ? Would you care to pub the C&D at least? The :term "bogus" is certainly a funny word. Jason, you should counter sue i, because they after all invited you to the event and you had permissions to record and distribute the content correct
- Peter Dawson
now you know how I feel about twitter. scum always win unless you fight back
- Noah David Simon
Jason - we spoke earlier today, contact me if you'd like this written about (tyler has my contact info)
- Andrew Feinberg
so mainstream media doesn't want coverage? Fine. Stop reporting their news.
- Frank Jonen
from Alert Thingy
"In most online communities, 90% of users are lurkers who never contribute, 9% of users contribute a little, and 1% of users account for almost all the action."
- Hutch Carpenter
from Bookmarklet
I think you could apply those same percentages to society at large. Question; what's the tipping point that moves a person from one level to the next, up or down?
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Julian - "lurkers" speaks to the goals of a company running social media. You want participation. But as consumers of information, you're right. I'm learning, not lurking!
- Hutch Carpenter
Jack, he defines what each level is right in the article.
- Mark Trapp
actions carried out by lurkers (views, time spent per node, node entrance, node exit, etc) can be considered a form of positive participation if you're feeding the trending patterns back into your community. - [edit] - just saw it in the article, 'Make participation a side effect' aka 'read wear'.
- Graham Garland
I saw that, Mark, but the examples were internet oriented. When applied to real life or society, there are other tipping points. Some people's lives could be defined by those statistics. They are actively contributing to their lives about 1% of the time and spending 90% of their lives more as spectators than participants. Life's lurkers.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Jack, it's not about "tipping points:" he's merely citing statistical data. In general 90% of users online don't participate at all, 9% participate but don't make it their main focus, and 1% seem to focus on nothing other than participating. Therefore, you're not getting a representative sample for user feedback when soliciting comments or methods that require participation. I think it's a stretch to take this data and attempt to discover life's lessons out of it.
- Mark Trapp
Old media: TV,magazines,etc. probably 99% lurkers. 10% improvement not bad.
- Mark Forman
We all lurk on most things, participate on some things. Last night, there was a good discussion about the safety and reliability of nuclear energy here. I have *nothing* to add to that, I was just as curious as anyone else. Lurking.
- Hutch Carpenter
"Wikipedia is thus even more skewed than blogs, with a 99.8-0.2-0.003 rule"
- Nicholas James
Wikipedia: "The encyclopedia anyone can edit, but you're really not going to, are you?"
- Mark Trapp
Why should we-and put all those wikipediaists out of a job?
- Mark Forman
@jbaldwinconnect: I like the term "audience," since it goes right to the heart of what they're there for. To observe, enjoy, and if they feel the urge they CAN interact but don't have to. Sometimes they applaud, sometimes they heckle, even if they don't get on stage. You can't have a theatre WITHOUT them. And why would you want to? Sometimes I think a lot of SocNet activists would like a masturbatory world where everyone's just acting for everyone else and no one's listening.
- Alexander Williams
from NoiseRiver
Yep, +1 Alexander. The performer/audience relationship is just natural. Well said.
- Colin Walker
from fftogo
Isn't it true of the world in general?
- Parth Awasthi
Personally, I think Ye Olde "Lurker" is perfectly apt. In online communities (as opposed to what passes for such in the Web 2.0 world), there is no performer/audience dynamic... there are people who define themselves and the community through participation, and then there are the those who prefer to observe the community without becoming a part of it.
- Roger Benningfield
Hutch: I'm not subscribed to you, and yet your name pops up in my FF flow all the time. So that pretty much confirms you're not a lurker in this space... having nothing to say in a specific "thread" doesn't change the fact that you're generally active.
- Roger Benningfield
Roger - there are times I lurk, times I jump in. And I just subscribed to you as well. I like the earlier comments regarding the need for people to just *listen*, not always *perform*. Nothing wrong with that. Lurking = learning.
- Hutch Carpenter
Hutch: Oh, I don't mean to suggest that there's some sort of moral imperative to participate. And there can definitely be a learning aspect to lurking... bit it can also be voyeuristic and detached in some contexts.
- Roger Benningfield
Someone who watches and observes is generally thought of as intelligent, open. But in online social communities they are "lurkers."
- Alex Williams
Imagine the noise if there was 100% participation.
- Morton Fox
Alex: Someone who sits in shadowed silence while observing the party is usually thought of as "creepy". :-D Again, context plays a big role here. I'm simply resistant to the recasting of lurkers as "contributors by other means" or the audience at a show. Lurkers all-too-often bring their own sense of entitlement to the table, and don't need anyone encouraging them to feel more important than they are.
- Roger Benningfield
This is an important point for any community strategy: how can you encourage the lurkers to participate easily? The "like" button in FriendFeed was made for lurkers!
- Erica Toelle
from twhirl
I disagree that people who observe a public community are sitting in "shadowed silence" and are therefore "creepy." I agree that they are not contributors by other means. Now, some silent observers may be creepy but they are a smaller subset of the community. Same could be said about contributors. A subset of that community may be quite "creepy" in their own right, too.
- Alex Williams
Erica: To me, the bigger question is, "do you really want to make it easy for people to participate?" I agree that the "like" link is a handy, non-destructive substitute for an endless stream of "+1", "first!!!", and other one-sentence contributions. But I'm not sure it would do much to forge the bonds of community.
- Roger Benningfield
i was thinking of passing on this one, not wanting to be the only counter comment - but hey, why not - doesn't anyone else on this thread find it ironic that inside the most progressive participation tool to-date (friendfeed) a thread is occurring around an almost 2 year old "article" written by the ui dinosaur that is jakob nielsen - his way of looking at online interactions was dated back then and it is still dated - anyway, i just thought it was ironic, i'll go back to my lurking now ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Alex: Again, I'm not saying lurkers are of any single character... I'm just pointing out that, depending on the structure and purpose of a community, lurking can have a very different feel. Honestly, I don't have anything against lurkers in general. I simply chafe at the emphasis that is often placed upon them when discussing community.
- Roger Benningfield
sorry one more - alexander has a great line above "Sometimes I think a lot of SocNet activists would like a masturbatory world where everyone's just acting for everyone else and no one's listening." - awesome
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike: That only makes sense to me if we're talking about blogging or a service like FF, where it is entirely possible to approach participation as a fire-and-forget exercise. But in an actual community, you're usually talking *with* someone. Listening is kind of an important part of having a conversation. :)
- Roger Benningfield
roger: are you referring to my "ironic" comment, in which case i don't understand or my quotation of alexander's funny statement in which case i still don't understand - can you pls say what you're trying to say a different way?
- mike "glemak" dunn
Mike: Non-threaded discussion drives me ape-shit. (grumble grumble) I was referring to the latter... an "acting without listening" environment can really only take shape on a blog or a place like FF, where one can get by with one-way content production. Communities, meanwhile, host conversations, which by their very nature require that someone at least *pretend* to be listening.
- Roger Benningfield
I've heard the 80-19-1 split... but many communities probably are closer to 90-9-1
- Eric Berlin
roger: I think you and i define online communities differently - alexander's line was humorous which is why I pointed it out - possibly the joke did not resonate with you but it worked for me - have a good one
- mike "glemak" dunn
this is nothing new; it was true 20 years ago on USENET and mailing lists. Most people just don't have the motivation to be more than a passive watcher. not a bad thing.
- Chuq Von Rospach
Come to think of it, The Smurfs community follows this same distribution: 90 are Crowd-Scenes only, 9 Have a Name/Brand, and 1 is Female -- BUT THEY'RE ALL TEMPRA PAINT BLUE.
- Micah Wittman
i'd agree with that, but it still KILLS twitter's own mobile site where i can never see what i'm typing
- MG Siegler
good point MG. Twitterific's key feature is its built in browser - no need to start up twitterific again after checking out a site. I might keep using it, but I'm sure going to try out the competition in the next few days.
- Frederic
FYI - you can also save images to your camera roll now by holding your finger on the image until a window pops up asking if you'd like to save it. Nice touch. - http://www.listropolis.com/2008...
- shaun mclane
just hold the home button then click on the top right button
- paul bailey
from Alert Thingy
Don't you control what content appears on your account when you input the feeds? Would that suffice--ie don't enter anything you do not want to share.
- susan mernit
Susan, I was looking at this from a subscriber's, not a publisher's perspective (I don't control which blogs someone else inputs, and I may want to subscribe to someone but just not to a specific blog of theirs).
- Philipp Lenssen
Yeah, I'd really like to not see anything from Twitter
- Gabe
Nice idea. I'll implement a hide by domain for NoiseRiver :)
- directeur
from NoiseRiver
Gabe, you can already hide Twitters by clicking "hide" then "See options for hiding other items like this"
- Paul Buchheit
Gabe, you can hide all Twitters except those that have comments. that's what I've done.
- Elliott Ng
Philipp you could create an "imaginary friend" of that person with all the stuff you want to follow and unfollow the real person instead. Not really nice, but it should work...
- Matthias Schwenk
Good workaround idea Matthias. Hope Friendfeed gives us this natively too.
- Philipp Lenssen
Hey, that's great. I can even hide all friends-of-friends!
- Gabe
Matthias , thanks for the tip - Now I Can unfollow all them so called A -Listers :)-
- Peter Dawson
Agreed, but what if you wait... and nothing better comes along. With no demos, with no refunds, the risk is completely on the user. Inline video reviews would help immensely.
- l0ckergn0me
@l0ckergn0me I agree there should be a trial period for apps
- Walt Ruppar
i'm just surprised the aim app is so light... i expected it to be at least 5mb. i mean it IS aim and all haha
- Mona Nomura
Little buggy...it crashed on initial install. I reinstalled it and now it's working. So far, Midomi is the coolest app I've tried followed by Exposure.
- Bwana ☠