In my mind, the FF guys have a couch in their office with the FF pillow on it.
- Rochelle
These are amazing. I have the unexplained urge too Kenny
- Mitch
These are totally items that you buy and then a year later -- when you see them collecting dust in a corner -- you ask yourself, "why did I buy these again?"
- Jason Toney
do you put the twitter pillow in the potty when the site is down?
- Allen Stern
Can someone here on FriendFeed please sew up some of these and sell them to us and make money for themselves and be happy that they have a captive audience and then sell more after we start a meme by holding them up and taking a picture and posting it? kthnxbai
- Christopher Harley
If I just buy the RSS one, will all the other ones come automatically in my pillow feed?
- LogEx
I think I've seen that sign somewhere inside the McDonalds employee lounge ;-)
- Amir
Higlet, I have three, although they're on their last legs. I spent my monitor budget for the next five years on this 32" LCD, so I need to keep the CRT's for the second screen on this box, and for both screens on my spare box.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
I just saw a penis float down the main feed for the first time. Gents are freaking. In related news, I've lost count of the number of vaginas that have floated down my main feed. Grow a pair, will you guys? If I have to see random hairless poon float down my stream several times a week, you can deal with a cock once a year.
quick hit the hide button cuz I'm at work, but otherwise, who cares...
- Bill Kinney
Yes, seriously. It's a scene from a movie, not sexual, and it's just a penis. Would I prefer it not be in my home feed? Yup. I prefer the hairless lady crotches stay out of my home feed too. That will never happen, though: people say we're uptight and "telling them how to FF" when we suggest they keep it to a room. Let one guy post a penis, though, and everyone's clawing their GD eyes out and screaming GET AN EFFIN' ROOM!!!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
So last night on this podast i heard a weird thing- in Africa there are some cultures that fear "penis stealers" like a pickpocket, they steal your penis. It hides in your body or shrinks. Serious deal, and 12 people were killed last year because they were suspected penis stealers. Just sayin'.
- anna sauce
I haven't seen any pensises!! penissess! ... dicks! And I don't want to see any either, I get that on my own thank you very much.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
I'm at work, so I hid said penis. Otherwise, yep. And yawn...
- Helen Sventitsky
I'm with @Bill Kinney. I could care less, I'm at work so I hide all the bits. But *yawn*
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
It is the first genital apparition I have so far experienced on FF. Neither offend, I mean after all it is all just bits of bodies.
- Kevin J Hatton
PS: I am not one of those 'freaking' Gents.
- Kevin J Hatton
I only get mad if its larger than mine. So far I have stayed happy ;)
- Moved to Facebook
from fftogo
EARL +1 -- to expand on that thought - it must have been so small I missed it.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
To put this into perspective: I have lady bits and have seen what may or may not be an average number of gent bits. If I want to see more of them, I certainly know where to find them. But if I'm FFing at work, the library, at home in front of my godsons or soon to be ex step nephew, I'd just as soon not have to explain why the lady is all nekkid and stuff. People don't walk naked down main street either: they go to places where nudity is expected and/or encouraged.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Errr, what's the big fuss? Only issue I have is NSFW stuff in the feed while I'm at work. I access rooms via lists to do that.
- CAJ, somewhere else
No argument from me there. @FFing Enigma
- Kevin J Hatton
I'm not bothered by seeing other peoples genitals float on by... Don't get how anyone can be bothered by them.
- alphaxion
Oh, and +1 to Tina for that last comment. Please send to a room and not your main feed. I'm just sayin'....
- CAJ, somewhere else
I'm not particularly bothered by seeing genitals in my home feed, but if I don't like a particular picture, that's what the hide button is for.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
**looks around** ooh cock? where? where? Damn I must not be that "Cool"
- The Catz Meow
And to clarify: my *biggest* gripe here is the fact that I've not seen a single (straight) gent complain about the poon floating downstream, but let one penis slip through and it's OMGWTFBBQ!! What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and if the guys are saying it's ok to post lady crotches then by God there will be man crotch to match.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
So, the unsaid thing here, Tina thinks we need more big hairy 70's style jungle bushes posted, and I couldn't agree more. I CAN'T FARGIN STAND THIS ERA OF THE SHORN POON. It's fracking creepy, looks like a childs, and that's just gross. The Brazilian ruined porn forever.
- Matthew DeVries
Having seen the crotch of a 10 year old girl (since I was one and therefore had one), I agree MDV. However this is more about the lady v gent crotch ratio, not the hair or lack thereof.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, now it's starting to sound like you're calling for more cock shots. Just sayin.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
I'm pretty sure that I've complained about the poon, Tina, and for the record I'm straight. Just sayin'.
- Alex Scoble
Just for the record I never complain about poon. Just saying :D
- Moved to Facebook
from email
If root beer is involved in a penis float, I'm in!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
You're right Alex, I remember that now. And Chris, it's not that I'm calling for more gent's crotch shots; I'm just saying that if the guys here are ok with lady bits in the main feed then they shouldn't say word one about men bits in the feed.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't believe I have ever seen a full on bare vagina in the main feed. Boobs, yes, but not full-on genitalia. Honestly I would have reacted the same way if it was a completely naked woman; I don't want full nudity on my main feed when there are plenty of rooms for that. Honestly I'm sick and tired of people bitching about the "double standard." If you want to post naked men, half...
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- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Who the hell are you subscribing too Tina? PS could you compile them into a list of handy links.....for reference.
- Geoff Schultz
Only apply Haggis' rules to naked people. Half, shirtless, bikini'd people are fine. NSFW is the only time to approach anything higher than apathy.
- Matthew DeVries
we are playing who ever states the rule last gets to apply the rule, right?
- Matthew DeVries
Exactly, Matthew. Post dudes in swim trunks/speedos, girls in bikinis, whatever. I see those things on billboards on the side of the highway. Vagina and penis, no. Put that somewhere out of the public feed.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
It doesn't bother me, but I'd have no problem signing a document with that rider if that gets it out of committee already.
- Matthew DeVries
*blinkblink* Who on earth are you subscribed to Tina?
- Soup
I sub to a handful of people who use image fave type services, and port in tons of images at once. For those that want to see what the main feed looks like for me it's http://friendfeed.com/isthiss...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
When I read what Tina posted, I got the mental image of a disembodied penis floating by like a weird duck hunt theme. :) Okay, remember when I complained about NSFW images in the main feed and many of you shot me down for "telling you how to use FF"? Well, now YOU get to debate this and I'll just hide your NSFW feeds.
- Morton Fox
i'm sitting here thinking the exact same thing mr perez
- Chris Heath
I was about to propose that some teachers at the high school I work at use friendfeed to aggregate their content and have students subscribe to that content. Now I'm worried that our district will just block the whole site.
- Ryan Massie
from iPhone
Perhaps I shouldn't laugh, but I find it hilarious. Lost your FF virginity now, TIna? :) "I just saw a penis float down the main feed for the first time" Your description of how you saw it 'float down' was what got me laughing here.
- Ian May
Does anyone realize that a penis really does float?
- The Catz Meow
When I say feed, Shawn, I mean the main feed I see when I visit friendfeed.com and am logged in. I don't use lists, so everyone I sub to is dumped into that main feed.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
i've never noticed since i try to keep it attached to my body.
- Jason Wyttenbach
Tina. Thank you for this original post (I admit not reading through the comments).
- Martha
I only see genitalia floating down (and bubbling up) via the inappropriate discussions group, which appears in my main feed by default. Mmmmm, genitalia.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
Tina, I totally love how certain people are completely misunderstanding your post, and appear to be assuming you are complaining about penile exposure. :-)
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
LMAO......this has got to be the best thread today!
- Bonnie Foster
Back in the old days, there were Johnsons as far as the eye could see. And what a lovely sight it was.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
...hairless poon? huh? what? clearly, I'm not subscribed to the right FF folks. .LOLz! this is a hilarious post Tina. thanks for that
- .LAG liked that
An observation: I was the 69th to like this post. Just sayin. ;-)
- Ladybug Heather
I just saw some out of this world Japanese wieners!
- sofarsoShawn
Make one little post about crotches and the masses get all riled up (so many puns, so little time). Just a reminder, any crotch (male or female) that I see in my main feed gets reshared to the "Crotches in my Feed" group http://friendfeed.com/crotche... And Cecily, thanks to you I now have the urge to see if RandomHairlessPoon.com is an available domain name =/
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
You know that traffic will be closely watched by the FBI
- Matthew DeVries
I really wish our society would get over the stigma of naked bodies. Both men and women. I'm 100% straight, but I'm all about freedom. But I'm also all about respect. I say we treat everyone equally. If someone wants to post nudity, why don't we make a single NSFW room. (one could exist, I don't know). Seems like a logical solution to me.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I'll agree there's not enough man-crotches floating about FriendFeed, and I'm straight! However, I categorically REFUSE to improve the situation. You all already got to see me shirtless for free; anything more and you got to pay me first for it.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
*considers using ye olde flatbed scanner but doesn't want to smoosh anything so gets out the digicam instead*
- Joe Silence is not dead
Just know if it shows up in my feed it's going to the Crotch room.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
i must be doing something right because my cock:hairlesspoon ratio has been really good. no filters or nuthin’. probably some previously-unseen emergent phenomenon arising from my subscription choices. @mike: speaking for myself, any naked-body-stigma I might have is not moral or social, it's aesthetic.
- Anthony Citrano
LOL AC!! Reminds me of the scene from Slapshot where Paul Newman is explaining why women are beautiful and men are not. And where's my invite to the hairlesspoon room?
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
It's not a hairless poon room, it's a crotch room: if you join you'll see whatever male or female bits find their way onto my feed. And no invites are needed, MVB, there's a link above.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
poon room -- i think that calls for a name change.
- Jason Wyttenbach
Then I'm not really sure how I got you in trouble, Shawn. I'm curious though, so do explain!
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Ummm no not my p.p however, running today with my friend Mark then we go to World Health and do weights...welllll...I was trying to explaining this story and I couldn't say this word...(penis)...yeah I know cuz the ppl were around. Sooooooo I was trying to explain this story how you got accosted by this penis...and I could not STOP FUCKING laughing.
- sofarsoShawn
It's not the penis that accosted her, it's the tweeters that routinely accost her and the penis that is the pleasant change of pace.
- Matthew DeVries
You know I'm very conservative and would not say such a word. Also there was a problem with Mark's swipeee thing and the guy at the door was like no need to see id. And Mark was getting so pissed off and I couldn't stop laughing and laughing like ROFL *dead* laughing
- sofarsoShawn
Shawn, that's awesome: glad to have given you the giggles =) But MDV is right: I wasn't accosted by the peen, I was just frustrated by guys acting like it was the worst thing they'd ever seen on the home feed.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Mark was seriously about to punch that mofo out and finally he was like FUCK IT WE'RE GOING, I'm mentioning this to your supervisor! And once we got outside I just burst out yelling PENIS PENIS PENIS!!!!!! Finally!! My abs still hurt from laughing. And yeah kids were heading to school & shit, but I finally got it out of my system. Usually I'm trying to get it in hehehehee. The end.
- sofarsoShawn
So shame on you for getting me in trouble with your talk of the p. word!
- sofarsoShawn
Scott, you didn't miss anything.. check my feed for the horrific image.. That spawned an entire revolution..
- Matt Ruiz
Matt: the image wasn't horrific, don't beat yourself up. My frustration was with the reactions
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina, I'd be tempted to just give up and let the madding crowd misunderstand to their heart's content.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
I seem to be missing all the juicy posts lately. Floating peni and vagini? Darn. :(
- Mathew A. Koeneker
The ability to move the bookmarklet to select images would be nice too.
- Andrew Smith
I find it odd that we can only embed 3 at a time, but we can post as many as we want using FF itself. I would have expected the limit to got the other way.
- Alex Scrivener
Yeah Andrew . . . I remember the Mento bookmarklet could switch sides
- Lindsey is Fierce!
Thanks Chris but ultimately I shouldn't have to hack a site to get some basic functionality
- Lindsey is Fierce!
you're a hard person to please Lindsey. that's the third or fourth time you've told me that haha. but I'd hardly call that a basic functionality. and this is a really nice solution, barely a hack at all!
- chrisofspades
from email
If someone can modify this string "var kMaxThumbnails = 3;" located here: https://friendfeed.com/share... ... with JS replace (or something), then we can have a greater number of thumbnails (I tested it, it works).
- Brandon
Yes please, even if it's only bumped up to 5.
- Kol Tregaskes
Recreating the bookmarklet is a lot of work, if some JS-wiz can replace the string I mentioned above with a value greater than 3, then I think we can solve this thing with a Greasemonkey Script.
- Brandon
False. It's the love of money that's the root of all evil. Money, by itself, has no meaning and it certainly doesn't have any motives of its own.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Greed is the root all evil; money is just the most common, ready face of it.
- Michael W. May
+1 Akiva. Money isn't evil. The greed that drives you to love it and pursue it at all costs is.
- CAJ, somewhere else
Would taking it away avoid the greed? Or would it cause issues elsewhere?
- Kol Tregaskes
Greed just is. How it's measured doesn't matter. Distance can be measured in miles or kilometers. It's still the same distance.
- CAJ, somewhere else
False. There is no root of all evil, but many roots and manifestations. Aside from that, money by itself is simply a tool for facilitating exchange. You wouldn't call a shovel the root of all evil if someone used one to bash someone's head in.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Kol, it would cause issues elsewhere. It's built into our species. You always hear a mother scolding her child for not sharing his toys. You never hear her scold him for giving all of his toys away.
- Akiva Moskovitz
People were evil before there was money.
- Rob Sterling
+1 Akiva. The Good Book says "love of money" is the problem. But, then, Gordon Gekko says "Greed is good." .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
Money can't but happiness, but it surely "can" buy a Porsche.
- Faraz Mullick
Wait. This is FriendFeed. I thought MicroSoft was the root of all evil. And Bush.
- Dawn
I think there's case for "Religion is the root of all evil".
- Gilbert Harding
Money is just a tool. Ignorance is the root of all evil.
- Tanath
selfishness is the big enchilada, greed being one of its most popular kin.
- Marco
I always thought that the corollary to "love of money is the root of all evil" was "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". That said, I think the former statement is still wrong. How does it explain, in the end, child molestation? It can't. The "root of all evil" implies its opposite, and we all know what people want "the root of all good" to be, which then (if you are so...
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- James (!?)
Ignorance is selfish? Actually, it's unavoidable. Everyone is ignorant in some way. Not everyone is selfish though (arguably), yet they may still commit "evil" acts... due to ignorance. Even if they try their best not to be ignorant.
- Tanath
Are we quoting Scripture or dealing with fact? Behavior is evil. Things aren't evil.
- Jason Nunnelley
I'm pretty sure there were evil people, before people invented money. The question is, "Was the branch of greed, grafted onto the money tree.."
- Wallace
Well, let's see, there's greed, lust, gluttony, envy...I know there's seven of these things...
- Pete Delucchi
from iPhone
humans are the root of all evil (on this planet). Everything else is just an excuse or an incentive to bring it out.
- alphaxion
I do believe it is the love of money that is the root of all evil . .
- pcdave79
I posit that in the absence of money, something else will come along to inspire greed in mankind. Hence, I believe that human nature is the root of all evil.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
Akiva: I got mildly scolded for giving all my toys away... :P
- Tanath
Slippy: What about good people? Is their "human nature" a root of evil? I think not - I really think it's ignorance that is the true root of all evil.
- Tanath
@taneth every human has moments of selfishness.. there is no such thing as an inherently good human. We all commit acts of evil from time to time - it's just the incentive and the degree of that evil that is the modifier. Money is simply another variable.
- alphaxion
Money is like social medi it's only a tool. It's how one uses a tool that makes it good or evil. Another take is that the pursuit of money at all costs--the end justifies the means--could be considered the root of all evil. However, I think the pursuit of power at all costs has created far more misery.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
The greed for money is the root of all evil.
- Will Higgins™
Agree with Will. And I must be evil, because I want more and more and more money.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
You can love money without it becoming a problem, but there are good & bad ways to go about obtaining it. It's when you engage in selfish & other ignorant behaviour that it becomes a problem...
- Tanath
And love of money isn't the cause of evils unrelated to money. Also, as others have pointed out, even if there were no money, there would still be evil.
- Tanath
Sean: Evil isn't a plant. ;-) There may be more than one cause of an event, but generally speaking you don't get plants without seeds. And I don't think you can ever get evil without ignorance.
- Tanath
I would be a little more broad: Selfishness is the root of all evil. Wanting more (money, space, things) is not inherently hurtful to others. Ignoring the needs, feelings, or even safety of others in the pursuit of gain is another story.
- Heather
If you selfish, you are ignorant. Ignorant is not "not knowing something", but unwillingness to learn. Babies are not ignorant, they just have not learned it yet - they are innocent.
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
A plant? I thought that evil was like a Unix system; one root at the very top.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
from Android
False. The love of money is the root of all manner of evil. 1 Tim 6:10: "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."
- Steven Perez
igor: you have redefined "ignorant" what you have described is negligence and/or arrogance. "unwillingness to learn" is a self centered decision. the keyword is "unWILLing". meaning the proposition was heard and then rejected, either because the desire to learn was not substantial or the presented information was seen as inferior. of course if the information is in fact inferior then the characteristic exercised was wisdom.
- Marco
The image with money on a toilet paper roll seems confusing if it's depicting "evil" - I must be overlooking something.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Hehe, it was a little random, sorry about that. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Haha - maybe if the money was burning in the flames of hell rather than just on a toilet paper roll, it would seem more wicked... lol
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Why can't we all just get along? </mars attacks quote>. methinks: Misunderstanding and Fear are the root of all evil. Love of money is a misunderstanding of it's usefulness(rich) & a fear that if you don't have any, horrible things will happen(poor). <Sadness />
- immaterial
@immaterial: Misunderstanding = ignorance. ;-) Fear generally comes from ignorance too (fear of the unknown, ignorance of a solution).
- Tanath
@Steven Perez: It's not wrong... love of money has caused all kinds of evil. That doesn't make it the root of all evil though.
- Tanath
Tanath, so I guess if I bribe you you will change your opinion on ignorance? How much do you want? Or u are not for sale? <wink>
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
@Sean: If evil stemming from ignorance isn't evil, then it would seem there is no evil. All evil is unfortunate, but that doesn't mean it's not evil. Even psychotic people who are that way due to a chemical imbalance are such because they are ignorant of how to act better (or why they should), and we are ignorant of a cure.
- Tanath
Money is just a tool. If we didn't have money, the worst among us would still find ways to cheat and rob others.
- Morton Fox
@Igor: LOL. My beliefs & opinions aren't determined by money, and I'm not a liar. One day my word may be worth more than you can afford.
- Tanath
Morton, just make sure the market goes up, I promise I will not turn EVIL LOL
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
the root? No. I think the root lies inside each of us. Some are good and would do good with money. Even with opportunities to get more money, but with negative methods, they choose to stay away from the money. Others would push their grandmothers in front of a bus for a chance at big bucks. me personally? I'd probably push someone else's grandmother in front of a bus, but that's where I draw the line
- Morgan Haley
Perhaps. But once people found out that evil could pay off so handsomely, I'll bet that the level of evil went right through the roof.
- Steven Perez
from IM
the LOVE of money is the root of all evil according to scipture
- sherijohnson
Exactly Patricia! (People keep repeating the same thing about love of money. Is it really that simplistic or is that just an easy quote?)
- Heather
@Igor: I agree evil stems from ignorance - I was referring to the definition of ignorance. You (facetiously) offered to bribe me on that point. ;P
- Tanath
@Heather, I think it's just an easy quote. It really doesn't make sense to blame it for all evil. :)
- Tanath
@sherijohnson: Check the quote. It does not say love of money is the root of _all_evil.
- Tanath
That's fine, Tanath. Because that's not what the Scripture says: "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil." Not ALL, but a whole freaking lot.
- Steven Perez
And I disagree, in a sense. Sure, excessive love of money can lead to all kinds of evil, but I think that can only exist in the context of ignorance... If there is any root of "all evil" I think it must be ignorance.
- Tanath
I dunno. I know plenty of smart people who let their love of money get in the way of their good sense, and it never seems to work out well for them.
- Steven Perez
But everyone is ignorant in some ways. No one knows everything or is completely wise.
- Tanath
Ignorance is part of the human condition. You might as well blame sunlight for being too bright.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Indeed. I never said we could eliminate ignorance or evil - but we can try to do the best we can.
- Tanath
Ah, but that's not the question, is it?
- Steven Perez
from IM
No. I've seen people do crappy things out of sheer cussedness, for free.
- Jennifer Dittrich
@Steven: You really think love of money is the root of all evil? Then what do you say about the point that evil existed and would still exist without money? Money is just a tool. Tools aren't good or evil, it's in how they're used and the consequences they bring about.
- Tanath
Hence, the "all kinds" before the "of evil". Not to say that people won't do evil things without making some on the side, but watch how motivated they get when there's a paycheck attached to the job.
- Steven Perez
from IM
But only those who are ignorant of why they shouldn't behave in certain ways will act in those ways. Unless they're completely apathetic, in which case I'd argue that that is ignorant too.
- Tanath
If they are ignorant - that is to say, unaware of the harm that their actions cause - then can they truly be evil?
- Steven Perez
from IM
There's a difference between "being evil," or having an evil character, and doing evil.
- Tanath
They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions... :P
- Tanath
I'm still struggling to figure out what exactly you find objectionable about the quote I used.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Only these: 1 - You quoted the bible, as if it proves something, and 2 - love of money is not the root of all evil, as has been implied.
- Tanath
Ah. (1) So you object to the source material. Fine, that's your prerogative. But that doesn't prove it wrong. (2) Read the quote again. There are no absolutes in that quote.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I realize that. I meant that others have implied it. And my objecting to the source isn't proof in itself, but that doesn't mean there isn't proof.
- Tanath
You know what the #1 quote from the movie CASABLANCA is? "Play it again, Sam." Just one problem - that quote never happens in the movie. At all. Yet, that's what people erroneously hear over and over again. Kinda like that Scripture you object to.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Others in this thread have implied it. I'm one of the ones pointing out that the quote doesn't imply it's the root of all evil. See my comment to sherijohnson for instance. :)
- Tanath
Your stance is akin to you quoting a truism from a Harry Potter book and me objecting to the quote because I don't care for Harry Potter.
- Steven Perez
from IM
On the contrary. The manner in which you quoted the bible seemed to imply that it has some authority on the matter. This is debatable to say the least.
- Tanath
***Which is why I included the quote.*** I can recall a quote poorly, but if I actually post the quote from the source material, the only objections you could feasibly have about it are (a) you don't like the source material or (b) the quote is incorrect. Since you've already indicated that the quote is not false, what other explanation is left?
- Steven Perez
from IM
I wonder if we're talking past each other here. What exactly is the point of contention?
- Tanath
And considering that the question is based on the quote, it seems facetious NOT to remind all what exactly was said.
- Steven Perez
from IM
The question isn't necessarily based on the biblical quote.
- Tanath
You know of another source that uses this? Such information would have been helpful.
- Steven Perez
from IM
It's part of common culture, and I'm sure there are prior sources for the notion. Edit: But even if they aren't, it's his own question whether it's been asked before or not.
- Tanath
I would love to hear about those.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Though I don't see how it would be helpful - except for a debate about the bible.
- Tanath
I get the distinct impression that, had I used a quote from a philospher, I would not have received such a vigorous debate about the veracity of my source.
- Steven Perez
from IM
You call this a vigorous debate? :P Actually, I only just bothered to look up the quote, and according to the KJV, it DOES say that love of money is the root of all evil.
- Tanath
See, that was your first mistake. When was the KJV compiled? The 17th century. Try looking up that quote in any modern translation, and you'll find something different, such as my own Bible, the New World Translation: "For the love of money is a root of all sorts of injurious things, and by reaching out for this love some have been led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains."
- Steven Perez
from IM
The KJV is apparently considered to be one of the more accurate translations. Meh. My point was that it does say it in some translations, so it makes sense for it to be quoted as such, and isn't necessarily a misquote.
- Tanath
You think the increasing loss of the original languages has helped the later translations?
- Tanath
Given the sheer number of codices that exist from between the time of the Dead Sea Scrolls and today, I think they are certainly more than enough reference sources to verify the translations. Certainly today, it is easier to get a better translation, simply due to the speed that information travels and the outlet available for double-checking one's translation, than it was back in 1611.
- Steven Perez
from IM
Meh. Not really interested in turning this thread into a biblical debate. ;) I have other relevant threads in my feed if you're interested in that. I'd rather stick to the point here and not hijack the thread.
- Tanath
Steven: The Bible quote came across as an appeal to authority argument. I think that's what Tanath is trying to express. Please forgive me if I'm mistaken.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Tanath - Most people like to think of themselves as good people, but there are no absolutes in this respect. Some of the greatest evils are perpetrated by people who believe they are doing good. Human nature, by dint of evolutionary traits tends towards the cruel, selfish and greedy (just watch children at play to see what I mean). Thus, whilst I don't disagree with your argument, I think that my point still stands.
- Slippy "WildBeard" Lane
Slippy, this is a point I've made myself above, but the cruel tendencies are remnants from times past. We are evolving towards more civilized behaviour. Selfishness & greed must eventually lose out over more wise behaviour.
- Tanath
Tanath, to identify the source of a quote is not the equivalent of "hi-jacking" a conversation. It is simply identifying your source. In this instance, the quote that started this thread was not a mis-quote, but rather an incomplete one: it was as people tend to remember it with the most outstanding memory aids in that sentence: "money" and "evil". However, the point of the quote is...
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- Melanie Reed
Ken, in this context, adding a "1" to the end of or middle of a series of exclamation points is proper usage when communicating something emphatic on teh interets. A nice touch was intentionally using the possesive form of "you", rather than the contraction for "you are." Extra points awarded for the use of all caps. 9/10
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Mona: I blocked Aaron to save him the trouble.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed needs a "close comments to this thread" option, or "only allow commenting from those that I follow" option.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: that would be a good feature.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: LOL. Jesse, I agree - I don't have problems on my feed since I monitor and block jerks and unnecessarily rude people right away but MAN I've seen some people on FF crucified for stating their opinions... :\
- Mona Nomura
I was just commenting how I liked FF more than twitter because its not a bunch of spam bots and corporate marketing wonks. Nice post.
- James Watters
Mona: they should see what Valleywag does to bloggers. Twitter? I have 96,000 followers and most are bots and probably so.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, ignorance is bliss...especially on the Internet. I am very afraid of Valleywag and its readers. ;) Twitter is easier to manage conversation, though sucky for discussions. To each their own, I guess.
- Mona Nomura
As one who was crucified on here, I know that I can't handle/don't want any arguing or ugliness. I'm following Mona's example - "block the trolls/haters and move along". I've never heard of Valleywag, but I'll make sure I avoid it.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
"It’s been possible for over a year but until now it’s been the preserve of a few geeks, bloggers and journalists. Could 2009 be the year live video streaming from mobile phones goes mainstream? It’s been announced that one of the most popular live streaming apps, Qik, is to be pre-loaded with all of Nokia’s S60 smartphones, starting with their new flagship N97."
- Martin Bryant
from Bookmarklet
Bundle the N97 with a gorillapod and you'll have the complete package.
- Bernie Goldbach
The Amahi Home Server is more than what you'd expect from a GNU/Linux home server. We call it "Home Digital Assistant" or HDA. * Network backups Backup all your networked machines simply and easily * Shared network storage Access, share and search your files from any machine on your network * Secure VPN Automatically setup your own VPN so you can access your network from anywhere: safely and securely * Shared Applications Calendaring, private wiki and other shared applications at your fingertips ... and more
- sofarsoShawn
Works cross platform (Ubuntu coming soon) & gaming consoles has an amazing ray of features and applications. Take a look at the link Amahi is really quite incredible.
- sofarsoShawn
Looks intriguing, though I'm curious how it compares to Windows Home Server.
- Michael Turner
Love the look of this - just waiting for the release that works with Ubuntu.
- Martin Press
It's a lot to take in I was taken a back by how mammoth the whole "project" is with all the app's included/services/multi-platforming and still have to take some time to wrap my head around it. The site says V. Ubuntu is coming shorlty.
- sofarsoShawn
"If you haven’t heard about it yet, the new computational search engine Wolfram Alpha launched this week to much fanfare and attention. The service can calculate integrals, tell you the flying time between San Francisco and London, or even the (lack of) nutritional content of your M&M’s."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
David: Ha. I can definitely understand the iPhone thing, but taking a laptop into the loo is something that probably requires other arrangements, eh.
- Nir Ben Yona
Wow Loren Feldman did a pretty good video. I take back all the negative criticism I had for his acting ability. He's really got something there. Surprisingly good.
- Dave Winer
I've watched a bunch of the video's they're funny, but tired of the Shel stick. It seems you have to be a real insider to know how they know each other and why Loren thinks the guys a *&^%head or loser. And there is always two sides and I don't have that much time for Soap Opera web 2.0 or whatever you want to call it. Loren keep doing video's, except drop Shel!
- David Cole
"This year, however, proponents of same-sex marriage have found encouragement in both the California Supreme Court decision and in a subsequent order by Gov. David A. Paterson of New York, instructing agencies in his state to recognize same-sex marriages performed legally elsewhere. The California court has also rebuffed several challenges to its May 15 decision, made by two conservative legal groups and by Republican attorneys general who fear that the California marriages will lead to legal challenges brought in their own states."
- Bret Taylor
The current UK administration defused the issue of same sex unions by the introduction of Civil Partnerships in 2005 linked to an across the board change of relevant laws to provide parity with married couples - with the exception of those with religiious objections (who should really know better) this has gone smoothly and been introduced across the UK. Its not called a marriage but has all the advantages (and responsibilities!) of the mixed sex varaint.
- Jican
The opposition should be pleased. Now that they're married, they'll be having less sex.
- Phil Wolff
from Alert Thingy
our friends Bob and Michael get married in SF on August 20th.
- Todd Mundt
Is that Bruce Willis in the second picture? j/k
- Nesta Campbell
It makes me very happy to see gay folks entering the light in California. I'm also very amused at how frustrating it must be to the Right. Well, I guess in a few years one of us will be proven right. Either a small percentage of the population of California will be happily married and gay or the country will lay in smouldering ruins and people will be having sex with box turtles.
- Internet's Tad
Tad: I feel a box turtle urge coming on! Hah.
- Robert Scoble
@Tad - I had box turtles as pets when I was kid. Never considered that activity with them though...
- Hutch Carpenter
"It does not affect your daily life very much if your neighbor marries a box turtle. But that does not mean it is right. Now you must raise your children up in a world where that union of man and box turtle is on the same legal footing as man and wife." - Rick Santorum (Idiot) ex-Senator from Virginia
- Internet's Tad
Dude in the pic with "Bruce Willis" is freakin HYOOOGE! I wonder how many opponents of gay marriage have been pwned by his hand...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Whoa, don't push Santorum on us Virginians! hehe
- jcunwired
Oh crap - sorry to pollute Virginia with Santorum! Oops. I wouldn't wish that on anyone...
- Internet's Tad
I hope it "sticks". My boyfriend and I are waiting until after November. To have the rug pulled from under us after enjoying a few months of wedded bliss would be too much for the heart to bear.
- Jason Menayan
Congrats to all the new couples, with wishes for many happy years.
- Chris Baskind
In my home town in Austria, we had a case of a black man and a white woman wanting to marry, they ended up being refused by the marriage registrar. Of course, we also haven't got gay marriage legalized here. The US have problems, but in some cases, law is way more progressive than in Europe.
- sebmos
@Phil: LOL! This has certainly been a momentous (and good) development. But it would be nice to see these kinds of decisions made through the legislative process. The fact that this decided in the courts will make the outcome more contentious than it would have been had the population been forced to have a legitimate conversation about the issue. The more bigoted corners of our society now have a victim card to play - and play it they shall...
- Forrest Cox
@Forrest: The genius of our system of government lies in its checks and balances. In particular, an unfettered democracy would be subject to the problem of the "tyranny of the majority". Fortunately this is offset by our Constitution and our courts, whose job is to ensure that individual rights are not trampled on, no matter how unpopular that individual may be, for whatever reason. Any bigots playing the victim card are ignorant of basic civics.
- Ruchira S. Datta
@Ruchira I agree. The Cali court is playing exactly its Constitutional role, and it's essentially a conservative and Federalist approach to reconciling changing societal mores and the demands of a minority. As I've commented elsewhere, we are winning this argument, and we're doing it state by state, rather than through a Federal fiat, which simply is not feasible at this time. All good things...
- Rick Powell
I value Digg. But Digg is push; FF is pull. Which is truly the Web 2.0 application?
- Chris Baskind
I also appreciate the egalitarian aspect of FF - no rankings, no voting (except for the likes - which help, but are based on content, no matter where it comes from) - and there is still a real feeling of community
- Frederic
and no MrBabyMan, but in all reality Friendfeed is basically all stuff I like, with Digg I gotta sort though a pile of junk to find a handful of articles I like
- BCK
from twhirl
#3 is part of the social evolution. Eventually, we won't use services like digg, reddit, etc,. as much as before, not just because we won't have time :-) it's mainly because everyone can have the same "user power" when they submitting stuff to Twitter, Friendfeed etc,.
- Orli Yakuel
should I comment on this or the digg post, hmmm
- El-Hassan Wanas
It isnt overun but 11 people boosting the same political / copyright "news" to the front page every 3 minutes?
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
I'm getting annoyed with half the conversation on friendfeed dealing with which social network is better. friendfeed is the best interface, but it is bad that there is nothing but a bunch of dorks here. IMHO MySpace and facebook has the best people... too bad the administration is fascist and the interface stupid. digg links to friendfeed. I don't have a problem with it beyond the fact that it is hard to use
- Noah David Simon
@ndsimon totally agree ive hidden as many meta-high-noise users as possible but its hard to avoid. the main issue is that comments should be hidden by default and can be opened by clicking on. as it is they take up too much realestate and also keep old items at the top if they have comments which intermittently get added thus adding the item to the top again which shouldnt happen either.
- ben barren
from Alert Thingy
If users are finding some streams on FF too noisy, shouldn't they just stop following the user instead of constantly hiding their posts? You can't filter Digg's front page in the same way.
- RyanEs
FF is a web 2.0 chat room. It def appeals to the tech first mover crowd as previously there was no good way for us geeks to have constructive conversations at any moment on any topic. Previously we would have had to participate out in the open with the Diggers or one blog at a time.
- Jason Goldberg
I am still hoping to seem some improvements in sorting/organizing the FF view to be easier to scan at-a-glance, but I definitely like it much better than Digg.
- Jeremy Hall
Go Duncan! Friendfeed starting to hit that sweet spot.
- Alex Hammer
I Digg stuff that people ask me to Digg that is actually good content. I never visit the site otherwise because my introduction to it showed me that it was just a bunch of elitist crap. My friends and associates should take action to promote my content based on the fact that it's awesome, not cuz I asked them to.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
@chris - push is not web 2.0. Remember Pointcast? Total web .5 push tech.
- Phil G
Excellent post Duncan, you are spot on. I don't even visit Digg anymore. Occasionally i will pull up there feed in G Reader, compare that to the countless hours i spend and devote on Friendfeed. The clear winner is FF on all fronts.
- Mike Fruchter
The Wisdom of the Crowds depends a lot on who's in the crowd.
- Leo Laporte