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Shel Israel
@drkiki I bet you can get a website designed & built a lot cheaper by crowdsourcing right here at Twitter.
Keen to know - how? - Prakash
John Wang
woot woot. Got a Google Wave account. ^_^
YAAAAY!! We'll be expecting updates. ;) - Mona Nomura
Do you feel the envy radiating through the net? - Ryan Massie
Tell us EVERYTHING! :-))) - Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
Is there anyone to *wave* with? - Nate Pilling from twhirl
If you wave on the Internet and it isn't Google, does anybody care? - Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
Hi Mona. It's pretty awesome. There's a ton of people in the sandbox. It's rather crazy. It takes the whole FriendFeed real-time to a whole new level. There was a youtube video of someone showing Scoble's FriendFeed with real-time. It's really that crazy! - John Wang
Wowowowowowow - I wanna see the sandbox. Even if I can't play, I can sure as heck watch screencasts ;). Lucky you!! - Mona Nomura
Been playing it with for the last few days. Tons of people and it promises to take collaboration to a new level. John - check out the Gadgets.... - Prakash
Wow! Lucky you! Have any screenshots? - TheHenry
Mark Evans
Yep, traded in my Palm Pre for an iPhone. After three weeks with the Pre I was disappointed with it; the iPhone is hands down superior in every way.
Congratulations! Welcome to the bright side. One of us! One of us! One of us! - Louis Gray
I'm sure it didn't help when the Pre died and @scobleizer had to do a hard reboot for you! - Bill Sanders
Nation: I respect your opinion, but why? - Mark Evans
Interesting. I thought multitasking on Pre was killer. Looks like I'm betting right by going after the 3GS. - vijay from iPhone
Multi-tasking is cool, but the lack of voice recog, quality camera, and video just kills the Pre. - Mark Evans
Wow... was the Pre that bad? - Mitch Featherston
It's not terrible, just not competitive against the iPhone.... And it ain't easy to use in the car. :( - Mark Evans
Having lost out on the features and the price the only thing that could help would be the ease with which developers use the WebOS to get apps into the store. Lets see. - Prakash
Jeremiah Owyang
What are the newest casinos in Vegas to see? I've seen the Wynn, I'm staying in Palazzo. Is Trump worth seeing?
anyone? - Jeremiah Owyang
I thought the Casinos were tracking Twitter - surprised you haven't gotten a response. I don't know any new ones - I can put you in touch with my brother who lives there though and he can tell you. - Jesse Stay
Do you play guitar or want to see the state of the art in guitars? If so, go here http://www.edroman.com/ - Jay Cuthrell from email
I only said this in FF, not Twitter - Jeremiah Owyang
My brother recommended the M resort (not sure why he's not coming over here to tell you) - he said they pride themselves on their affordable pricing - Jesse Stay
I heard that Wynn has firesale prices a few months back. - Roberto Bonini
The Trump has great rooms. Does not have a Casino though. :-( - Prakash
The Encore! - David Cook from fftogo
Louis Gray
Finally Someone Acquires SocialMedian - http://regulargeek.com/2008...
Liked for being the first article I saw that gave me a dollar figure ($7.5M). - Daniel J. Pritchett
Actually, TechCrunch and PaidContent both published the numbers before I did. I actually linked to the TC post for deal details. - Rob Diana
I don't understand the word "Finally", given they launched in Alpha in April and just got out of Beta. - Louis Gray
Louis, that's what I was thinking too. - The Fat Oracle
Because to quote Rob: "I have been calling for their purchase since late-summer" - Ken Sheppardson
Louis, as Ken says, I fully expected someone to purchase them and was generally surprised that it had not happened. I figured it would happen sooner. - Rob Diana
Rob, can you say that about SocialToo so we can get acquired for 7.5 million within a year? ;-) - Jesse Stay
What I do want to know is whether SocialMedian was shopping, or if they were approached cold by Xing. - Jesse Stay
Jesse, let me think about that. I am planning on doing the same thing for YackTrack, but I am not asking for $7.5M. I can definitely go a little lower than that :) - Rob Diana
They got acquired before I could understand what they do. - Prakash
Matt Cutts
If I were a professor teaching user experience, I would create a semester-long course on the bad UI of gasoline pumps.
It would be preceded by the bad UI of hotel alarm clocks and followed by the bad UI of photocopiers. :-) - Kevin Fox
Ugh. Photocopiers. And many digital cameras. - Louis Gray
You can add cell phones to the list. - Jeff P. Henderson
TV remotes are even worse. - Ray Metzen
So then, what IS designed well? - V Mary Abraham
@Mary Friendfeed! - Prakash
Prakash--quick find your FriendFeed stats! Okay, click on Tools... um. No, it's not there. Okay, gotta be in the Account tab then, right? Hmm. No. It's not the Sign out link, I know that. Maybe... Friends? My stats are listed in the "Friends" category? But then I'm grumpy tonight, so ignore me. :) - Matt Cutts
The original Tivo remote was pretty nice, as remotes go... - abacab
I hear ya, Matt. There are a bunch of pieces added along the way that need refactoring. :-) - Kevin Fox
Android to the rescue. - Mohamed J
What abt Gmail's UI? - kamla bhatt
Amen. - Roberto Bonini
+1 for improving the UIs of gas pumps, photocopiers, and almost all consumer electronics. And will someone please explain to me why it is that all consumer electronics seem to include useless blinking lights that do nothing other than make you wonder just what the hell is flashing in your house at night? - Joel Webber
Wait, sorry, what's so bad about gas pumps? They're not very elegant, but people seem to be able to operate them just fine. - ⓞnor
You can always come teach UI at my college I would love to have you do that, give me a shout, make it happen - Dan owns Comicsforge.com
When I had a car, gas station pumps often wouldn't work for me. If I pulled the trigger the whole way, gas would flow for a second and then stop. If I wanted the gas to flow, I would have to stand there and manually hold the trigger half open the whole time. Is there something I'm fundamentally misunderstanding about pumping gas? - Melinda Owens
Yes. There's a latch at the back of most pumps that you engage to do the "holding the trigger half-open" thing. Pulling the trigger all the way usually causes the gas to back up and overflow, triggering a stop. Does that make sense now, Melinda? - Piaw Na
What vi and emacs have taught me is that you can get used to any UI, no matter how horrible it is. - Victor Ganata
Here in New Jersey, the bad UI is having to speak to the gas station pump attendants. - Morton Fox
Examples of bad UI are often more fascinating (and instructive) than those of successful UI. Any blogs/sites featuring the former? - Marko Bon from fftogo
Maybe it's me, but I don't see a problem with the UI of gasoline pumps. What am I missing? - Ontario Emperor
I was just yammered at by a Shell pump previewing NBC shows while filling up. Bizarrely unconnected to the process of pumping gas - Paul Haahr
Or just have them read The Design of Everyday Things and you'll spend six months on the poor design of most doors. - Andrew Bonventre
Paul, I get that at Shell and at the cash registers at Albertsons. At least it makes more sense at the latter, since all the celebrity magazines are sold at the register. - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Jason Calacanis
Report from indian: this is an attack against foreign citizens--they are looking for and rounding up 100s of Americans at hotels.
The TV Reports that 2 terrorist walk in Oberoi Hotel with guns and ask all British and American Passport holders to stay back...they take about 14 of them. Few of them escaped and it is believed that about 10 of them could be held as hostage as of now. - Prakash
the toll as reported by Times Now of India : death toll at 78, attacks took place at 3 luxury hotels. the Commander of the Anti-terrorist force has been killed in a gunfire exchange. gunfire is still heard at this minute. - SnakeDoc
from Times Now TV [ thru watchindia.tv ] : Indian Army and Naval Commandos surround the Taj and Oberoi hotels in preparation for entry. still unclear who are the terrorists organizations behind the attacks. - SnakeDoc
What the heck is going on???!!! horrid news!!! - Susan Beebe
Jason Calacanis
@kari_shma you might be the first to report the attacks on Twitter.Our thoughts & prayers are with you. As a NYer there on 9/11 my prayers.
25 held Hostage in the Taj Hotel - Prakash
Over 200 brought injured to one hospital. This is only from one location. There have been 8 blast across the city - Prakash
Prakash
Another bomb blast 10 minutes back in the roof top of Taj Hotel in Mumbai.
Two Terrorist shot dead while trying to escape - Prakash
Jason Calacanis
Cops are actively fighting it out with terrorists in gun fights in Mumbai. Thoughts and prayers with our Indian brothers and sisters.
Terrorist have attacked all over the city in a very planned manner. Three 5 start hotels have been targeted along with a Hospital. The city is in chaos right now. - Prakash
Jeremiah Owyang
Report on why people participate in online communities (Almost like a psychologists perspective) http://zaphod.mindlab.umd.edu/docSemi...
There is a need for something like a Report 2.0. Reports that are easy to understand and read. Interact with and pass around! Thanks for link though. - Prakash
Charlene Li
Best video that describes the state of social media marketing - http://blog.altimetergroup.com/2008...
Folks at Microsoft need to see this. - Prakash
Louis Gray
New Post: mioNews Brings New Foldered Interface to FriendFeed http://www.louisgray.com/live...
Using it now. Feels a bit weird, but I don't hate it yet. Doesn't look like it honors your hides by default. - Bwana ☠
I wonder what the hate button does >:) - Bwana ☠
You're right - mioNews still has some rough edges. I believe I overlooked the hides. I'll get that taken care of ASAP. - Patrick Lightbody
This is pretty cool. I'd have to really consider if I want to read every single feed item, though. - Mark Trapp
FriendFeedMachine, at debut, did not honor hides, but it was an overnight update. I expect Patrick can do the same. - Louis Gray
Patrick, since you're here: any chance of making the commenting function not a modal dialog? A lot of times I need to refer back to the conversation or other conversations when writing up a comment. - Mark Trapp
Actually, there are a bunch of functions that use modal dialogs. I'd love to see those replaced with immediate actions and an undo feature, instead. - Mark Trapp
Mark - yes, that should be pretty easy to do too. I'll get it added to the list. - Patrick Lightbody
I like the topic section... good ideas with a good UI. - Bwana ☠
Just have a try, feel weird too. - K.D.
If you get keyboard shortcuts in this thing, I might have to stay a while :) - Bwana ☠
This thing rocks! Nice job - Todd McKinney
Interesting - I feel like I'm in email. Checking it out more. - Hutch Carpenter
Quick question, in the My Friends section, when you create a folder, how do you add people to it? Also, do you have a friendfeed room? I'm going to flood you with feedback and I don't want to hijack Louis's thread - Bwana ☠
Duh, big Support/Feedback link goes to the room. :P - Bwana ☠
I second Bwana's request for keyboard shortcuts. Give me Google Reader shortcuts, and I'd be a happy man. - Mark Trapp
To add people to a folder, just drag the little "person" icon in to the folder. I'll get keyboard shortcuts on the list as well. - Patrick Lightbody
Patrick, is there a way to see stuff you've already marked as read? - Mark Trapp
Mark - not currently, but that would be easy enough to add. I plan to add a few additional sections below "Home" and "FriendFeed", such as "Likes" and "Comments". Adding a "Read" would make sense right there. - Patrick Lightbody
Cool. This definitely has promise; I'll be following this closely :) - Mark Trapp
should be on Techmeme soon ;-) - Duncan Riley
I have just left this running in the background while I work and almost an hour has gone and it's still loading my feeds! - Joe Dawson
Too slow. Not sure why I will use this. - Prakash
Can't even load the damn thing! - Sasha Kovaliov from twhirl
it's already working - retry - Masha from twhirl
Where is my big fat button "Mark EVERYTHING as read" :) - Sasha Kovaliov from twhirl
the button is on a diet! :-D - Masha from twhirl
you can integrate twitter into it. it seems that no service can't live w/o integrating hald-dead birdie :) - Sasha Kovaliov from twhirl
Received a "proxy error" (?!) when trying to use it. It looks like something I'd like if I ever get to use it... - Vince DeGeorge
It will work. Just keep on trying. I couldn't get in for about an hour. - Sasha Kovaliov from twhirl
oh, so it works kind of like twitter? - Vince DeGeorge
Ahahaha :) seems like - Sasha Kovaliov from twhirl
Sorry everyone for the downtime - there is a load-related bug that is being a pain in my butt right now. I'll get it fixed today or tonight and then the site should be much more stable. Thanks for your interest! - Patrick Lightbody
Mionews getting great buzz on FF. I found this and followed the comments via Feedly. - Russellreno
mioNews now has keyboard shortcuts! They will be documented soon, but the keys are: j/k for next/prev entry, shift-n/shift-p for next/prev item on the left-hand-side, r to toggle read/unread state, s to share, c to comment, l to like, h to hate, and o to open the entry in a new window. Enjoy! - Patrick Lightbody
Prakash
Packaging Fail « FAIL Blog - Fail and Epic Fail Pictures and Videos: Failblog.ORG - http://failblog.org/2008...
Packaging Fail! - Prakash from Bookmarklet
Prakash
Top 30 Viral Videos in 2008 (so far) - http://www.trendhunter.com/trends...
"23. Viral Street Performers - Johan Lorbeer Hangs in Mid Air (VIDEO)" - Prakash from Bookmarklet
Louis Gray
Baby Grays are here! The boy clocked in at 9:01 at 5 pounds, and the girl weighed in at 4 pounds, 3 oz at 9:02. Both healthy.
Due to the girl's smaller size, under 2 KG, she'll be in the NICU, but the boy is already with mom, getting acquainted. Kristine is in recovery from the C-section, but I expect will do well. On with a new stage! - Louis Gray
Yeaaaaahhhhhh!!!! Funny, Milan spent the first three days of his life in that same NICU. They are really great there, so your daughter is in good hands. Names? - Robert Scoble
Congrats on the new arrivals!!! - Andy Kaufman
w00t - Tyler Gillies
yah! Congrats!! - Tim Hoeck
Photos. Photos. Photos. Photos. !!! Do I have to come to Stanford? :-) - Robert Scoble
Congrats! Cigars for everyone! - Mark Krynsky
Congrats! - Muthu Ramadoss
Congrats! Too bad I'm in Florida, else I'd join the Scobleizer - Prolific Programmer
Welcome to your son & daughter!! Congratulations and looking forward to being deluged with photos of adorable twin Grays!! :) - Lucretia Pruitt
Congrats Louis! - Frederic
Double congrats - David Vasileff
That's awesome! Congrats!! - Joanmarie
Yay!!! Congrats!! Glad everyone is well. *cough* Need a nanny?? *cough* ;-) - Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
yeeah, Congarts Luis! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Lisa: you should open a day care for FriendFeed'ers. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
YAHOO! (the word not the company). Big congrats to Louis & wife. Now the fun REALLY begins. Thanks so much for sharing the experience on Friendfeed. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
That's awesome. Congrats to you and your wife! - John McCrea
Congrats! - Mike Doeff
Hmmm.... day care for friendfeeders = new biz model. I gotta got get some VC @now :) - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Congrats Louis! And hat's off to Kristine for the long labor followed by the c-section! Glad to hear things are good with the li'l ones. They'll be home before you know it. Fantastic! - Hutch Carpenter
Names? we want names :-) FF waiting room ftw! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Robert: Sure. Once I get to HMB, everyone can drop their kids off at your place, right?? ;-) - Lisa L. Seifert | FHG™
Congratulations - twins! Wow you gonna have your work cut out for you, but it will be fun. - Pete Gilbert
I think this might be the coolest conversation I've seen on Friendfeed to date. Simply fantastic. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Congratulations! I have twin daughters. The first two years are going to be fun. I hope you are ambidextrous :-) - Prakash
Congrats and happy father's day! - Phil Glockner
I promise photos soon. Names too. I'm tired and so is Kristine. Thanks for being part of a very real community here on FriendFeed and indulging me. - Louis Gray
Lisa: our house is child proofed just for you. Or is it for the kids? I don't know, but either way, we're ready for the influx of FriendFeeding babies! :-) - Robert Scoble
Louis: if you think you're tired now, just wait a couple of weeks!!! Enjoy your sleep when you can get it. We'll be here when the kids wake you up again. ;-) - Robert Scoble
congrats Louis ! - Alemsah Ozturk
Congratulations! - Ontario Emperor from fftogo
Congratulations Louis and family! All this twittering / FF'ing on the excitement of babies being born is reminding me of my own sons' births inspiring my proto-social-web baby pool project (admittedly it's Web 1.5 - not all shiny/ajaxy but hey, it debuted in 2004 which is like a lifetime ago in web-years). Anyway, thus ends my shameless plug: http://bebepool.com/ - Micah
Congrats, Louis. I was (and am) a twin, 2lbs, 6oz though. 4mos premature. - Andrew Feinberg
Louis - you are one of the anchors here on Friendfeed! It's been an honor sharing this experience with you, and your family. Wishing you, Kristine, and the twins the sweetest of dreams. Sleep well. You deserve it! - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Wholehearted congrats. Our first was in the NICU after being born premature and those folks do wonders. Dylan is now a tall, healthy, 48-inch-tall five year old towering above the rest... - Chris Reed
Luis fantastic duded. Congratulations to you and your wife!! - Alexander van Elsas
That's great news! Congrats and congrats - Shey
Congratulations Louis & Kristine, & welcome to your son & daughter! You're tired now? Wait 19 years...I have twin daughters that age; I can barely type ;-) ! Twins are special, all enjoy your new life together. - David Peacock from twhirl
Congratulations to you and Kristine on your new arrivals, really proud for you both! - Joe Dawson
Congratulations! - Eric Florenzano
congrats - Duncan Riley
Well done - the hard work starts now! Our youngest was in NICU for three weeks (he was 4 10 and had to be delivered seven weeks early as my wife had a life threatening condition), but the great thing about NICU baby's (well in the UK anyway) is that they get trained to sleep!!! - Andy Davies
Mazal Tov to the new parents! Congrats!!! - Mike Fruchter
Congrats! :) - Alejandro
congratulations. glad to hear that everything went well! - Edwin Khodabakchian
Congratulations, Louis and family! - Ian Betteridge
Yay! Congrats!! I'm sure you'll love your twins as much as I love mine. :) - Don MacAskill
Congratulations! - Anne Bouey
Not more people to follow in friendfeed! - Rich
Congrats Louis and glad to hear mother and twins are fine and enjoy your rest you'll need it! Only 12 weeks before our new one arrives and I'll be going through the same thing :) - Russell G
Congrats! - Evgeni Leshtanski
Congratulations Louis. Brilliant news! - Chris Nixon
Congrats! Hope everything goes really well! - Matt Cutts
there are so many comments here i can't possibly read them all, but that's awesome louis, congrats to you and your wife. do the babies have names yet? - MG Siegler
Fantastic. - Russellreno
Congratulations! - Benjamin Golub from fftogo
Excellent news! Congrats to all! - Rob Diana
Congratulations! - Chris Rossini
Congratulations! - j1m
I think I teared up there a little bit. Congratulations Louis! I know how exhausted you guys are and hope you're getting some much deserved rest right now. You're all in my thoughts this weekend. - Carla Thompson
Congratulations! - Caleb Elston
Congratulations! - Kenneth LeFebvre
Congratulations! Welcome to fatherhood :) - Dave Stanley
FABULOUS Congratulations Louis and Kristine - A new chapter it is (Wasn't someone supposed to wake me up for this :) - Charlie Anzman
Wonderful news, Louis! Well done to the Gray family :) - Sally Church
Congratulations!! - Cyndy from fftogo
Mazel Tov! :):) - Mathew A. Koeneker
congrats, Louis -- glad to hear everything went well - mathew ingram
In Turkish we have saying for newborns "I hope they grow up with their parents" sounds terrible in English, but I hope they will :) - ahmet bulent
Congrats! - Aaron Myers
congratulations!!! - Vince DeGeorge
Congrats! - Franklin Pettit
congratulations!!! - Sarah Perez
Congratulations.... - Francine Hardaway
Photos? Congratulations - Francine Hardaway
~~~B~A~B~I~E~S~~~A~R~E~~H~E~R~E~~!!~~Y~E~A~H!!!!! Congratulations Louis & Kristine!!! So happy for you guys and your family!! (Sorry I feel asleep after 1AM EST... long week) - Susan Beebe
Congrats! - Igor Poltavskiy
Congratulations and best of luck raising them! - scherbi: bottom dweller
Congrats! - timepilot
congrats - Jeremiah Owyang
Congrats! : D - Robert Seidman
Congratulations, Louis and Kristine. May your lives be filled with joy and love. - Jack&Cleo
Congrats, Louis! - Brent Newhall
WOW!!! Congratulations, guys! Hello babies, good-bye sleep. - April Buchheit
Oh, yeah, pictures, please!! - April Buchheit
Congratulations Grey family. "Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you've got about a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind." - Clare Dibble
Awesome Vonnegut quote, Clare! Very fitting. - April Buchheit
Congratulations! you didn't name them Luke and Leia, did you? - Tudor Bosman
Congratulations! - ComicList
congratulations! - Niv
indeed, congratulations - chrisofspades
Congratulations Louis & family! - Glenn Slaven
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Alex Hammer
Congrats Gray family! - Mario Romero
Congrats! Not sure how I missed this one before. Pure awesomeness! - Thomas Hawk
Congratulations on your new arrivals. Get some sleep! - JA Castillo
I have identical boy twins almost 3 yrs old - Very cool - Tim FitzGerald
Louis - Looks like a worldwide welcome. Hope you got some sleep :) - Charlie Anzman
a bit late.. but congrats! - Paul Stamatiou
Congrats on the twins! - Mitchell Tsai
Miss this while I was in the woods on vacation--congrats!!! - susan mernit
Bump for good times - Jesse Stay
Louis Gray
How to create the next iPhone | Agile Software Development - http://agilesoftwaredevelopment.com/blog...
The message here is very similar to what 'Getting Real' the book written by 37signals conveys. Funny how when you read something like this you 'get it', but forget it when you build something. The book, Why some ideas Stick...calls it the Curse of Knowledge. - Prakash
Fred Wilson
"If there’s one single lesson you apply at the edge, let it be this: business models happen." - http://fredwilson.vc/post...
The highlight of the article for me was the following lines: "That's why businesses that aren't deeply, durably connected to people are already falling apart " - Prakash
I'm also quite fond of 'value must flow in many directions' which I think is really what makes the edgeconomy different from traditional businesses - Nicholas Molnar from twhirl
I think this is not really as simple as that & it varies in each industry. I think the core message is to be the best on our core service &/or services (but dynamics are too much really). - Nikpay
Louis Gray
Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die - http://www.amazon.com/dp...
Made to Stick: Why Some Ideas Survive and Others Die
I am reading this book and I love it! - Prakash
Jeremiah Owyang
When we'll know we're really in a digital world: Business Cards are Nonexistent, Wifi in Airplanes, and ?
My desk isn't covered in reams of paper from meeting "decks" that really needed to be handed out. - Ben Hedrington
Gas prices don't matter, to anyone. - Jason Wehmhoener
Telecommuting becomes the standard rather than the exception. - Akiva
When we don't realize we are in a digital world. - Bwana ☠
@Akiva no, telecommuting is called 'going to work' - Ivan Pope from twhirl
We pick up our pay whenever we log into paypal account... - Mark Forman
When I throw in idea out on (insert social network) and get instant feedback - Dave Peck
We use a neural interface to go on the Web instead of a keyboard/mouse/PDA - Mark Dykeman
Social networking is fully integrated into mainstream telelvision; my friends stop buying vinyl (LPs); getting your books for college consists of a single download that takes less than an hour. - Steve Lynch from Alert Thingy
people stop finding the internet remarkable - Kingsley Joseph from twhirl
When nobody uses the 1980's term "digital" anymore. - Ryan Kuder
when you see a doctor for loss of connectivity - Phil Wolff
Didn't they have wi-fi in airplanes, but then removed it since nobody was using it? - Rishabh Mishra (p248)
...there are no discussions over "old media" companies trying to hold onto their old business models - Barry Graubart
When the "old media" is the blogosphere - Phil Wolff from Alert Thingy
and the 3rd world where I live still strive... - directeur
when half the population has built in wimax and an eye with heads-up-display implant - Phil Wolff from Alert Thingy
food pill. - anna sauce
when digital means using your fingers - Phil Wolff
When people stop asking "what do you do" and instead ask "where can I find what you do? - Ken Kaplan from twhirl
When my onlife is seamless wherever I go online or off. - Phil Wolff
Our grandchildren ask us, what was the Internet? - Phil Wolff
When our grandchildren laugh at us for using keyboards and mice - Jeremiah Owyang
when we are digits - gmarketer
uh... we drive cars powered by computers, use toasters with computers, are constantly connected to the web.... we've been digital for ages :P - David Petar Novakovic from twhirl
When most people work from home and go to the office once in a while - Prakash
when there is nolonger cash and we have a chip implanted in or right hand so we can buy and sell. - Chris Nalty from twhirl
Moo cards are the Business Cards for the digital world! http://moo.com - Stephen Terlizzi
no - this is a business card 2.0: http://retaggr.com/Card... - Dieter Schwarz
Regarding the business cards, here's an idea: Moo Crowdsourcing. Hop in the Flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups... - Armando Alves from twhirl
Louis Gray
Friendfeed is your Personal Techmeme - Suggests Personalised “Best Reads” - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
I am recent entrant here and I use Friend Fee primarily to find great stuff to read. It has taken away a significant of my time away from Google Reader. - Prakash
Robert Scoble
FriendFeed is NOT taking off ... why? (I gave some reasons over on this blog post but wonder why we aren't seeing a LOT more FF activity?) - http://www.profy.com/2008...
I've been showing FriendFeed to tons of people and most try it out for a few minutes and then leave. It's clear to me it's not really taking off the way, say, Twitter did. I am getting pretty consistent feedback from people who say they don't see the value in it -- I left my ideas of how to get FriendFeed participation to go to a new level on the post I linked to on this cluster here. How about you? - Robert Scoble
wlai: yeah, the desktop client is tough, because of the two-level commenting system here. But if they implemented XMPP that'd solve that pretty quickly. - Robert Scoble
does everything come down to being as banally simple as Twitter? - Ivan Pope from twhirl
@wlai i'm using MySocial 24x7 Sidebar. a pretty good firefox extension, but still not as convenient as Twitter IM bot. - Jansen Lu
Why hasn't FF added any new feeds in several weeks? There are plenty of sites they could add. - Elliott Plack
Has Robert found a new toy? Is it Plurk? ZubHub or whatever? lol - Aviv
I made FF my home page but still struggling with it. I could just about keep up with Twitter but on here I get to see what the friends of my friends say on a tricky to navigate webpage. It's too time consuming for people that have normal jobs (no Robert, you job is not an average normal job). - Gerard van Schip
No, FF is THE toy for me right now. I just want to get other people in here and I'm getting a LOT of resistance when I sit down with people and watch what they want to do with it. - Robert Scoble
I think all these social apps need beter interop - Charles Rice from twhirl
Cyvros: links work in Google Talk. Just convert them to URLs. - Robert Scoble
Cyvros: mostly I want XMPP for listening to the system. Not for posting. - Robert Scoble
The value in FF is the potential of personal relevance and engaging in discussions without feeling overwhelmed or lost. Threads with 30+ comments are becoming more common these days, and so are 50+ likes. The thing is, Robert, I think super-users such as yourself with 2000+ friends expose individual entries to... too many people. Some complain that FF is fragmenting the conversation. Quite the contrary - I think FF will need to find ways to fragment it even more as it grows. - Aviv from ffreader
Cyvros That's the part I don't get. FF seems quite intuitive to me -- whereas other tools don't. That's not to say some refinement is not in order, mind you.... I need to give this some more thought (i.e. WHY is FF intuitive to me?). - Joanmarie
Robert, I actually like how Friend feed is right now and understand people's dislikes about it but I think it still has some potential that we will see in the coming months!! - Paul
Aviv: if you read my feedback, being able to hide completely some users is very important. The fact that I am able to "leak" into every conversation here is a huge negative for many people. - Robert Scoble
Aviv: not being able to control the noise (and the noisiest users) is a major reason why people get turned off when they first see FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
I think part of the reason is that FF is billed as a lifestream aggregator - for people to combine their blogs, twitter, delicious, shared items, etc into one stream. But the average person doesn't have that many feeds that they need a lifestream aggregator to manage, in my opinion. Also, the desktop client thing that you guys have mentioned is important as well. - Derrick Kwa
Well the obvious answer is that for people that aren't on Friendfeed the value isn't all that clear. I'm on Friendfeed and for me it's a tool. I don't like the aggregation aspects of it, but enjoy the discussions that float around. But the main issue with ANY aggregation service imo is that it lacks intent. To me it seems that unlike early-early adopters most people don't really have a need for a constant stream of unintentional shared content. Intentional personal sharing is much more valuable to them - Alexander van Elsas
Paul: of course it has potential! Think about everything that's in the FriendFeed database that we can't yet pull out. Can I show you every item that has "n" likes? No. Can I show you every item that has "n" comments? No. Can I show you every item that has those things but with Robert Scoble hidden? No. So, YES there's HUGE potential locked up in the FF database that isn't yet available to us. - Robert Scoble
Robert, we are very much aware that FF needs a lot more work (it's a young product), and that not everyone "gets" it right away. We are definitely working on making it more intuitive and approachable. That said, the blog post you linked two was written last month, and activity on FF has grown about 3x in that time :) - Paul Buchheit
FF is very confusing - People who don't use many web2.0-sites can't profit from the unification of your web-presences. Using FF just for the coments is simply not appealing enough for the mainstream user. - sdfx
Alex: You are right the intentional personal sharing is much more valuable to them but that makes it that much harder for the unintentional shared content. it makes FF just that more harder to understand. I know they are working on this little problem of FF, and I'm sure it will get fixed but I also know they will have to wait and see attitude!! - Paul
Paul: awesome. I think the reason you are getting this feedback is cause you've built something that has huge value already, it's just frustrating for those of us who are being FriendFeed advocates because we don't have the right tools to convert other people into FriendFeed lovers too. For those who don't know who Paul Buchheit is, he's one of the co-founders of FriendFeed. I'm happy it's growing, but it could grow a lot faster if we had a few more tools to show people the value locked up in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble
I use them both (Twitter and FriendFeed), and I actually see more and more people (among my friends) that use FF a lot more than before. I posted some little stuff that I wish FF to add (here: http://friendfeed.com/e...) but those are really simple changes compared to what you ask for Robert :-) - Orli Yakuel
It's two things for me: 1, Twitter gives me all the info I have time to digest and 2, to make full use of FF I'll need to sub to all the people I'm linked to elsewhere. Did I mention time was an issue? - Rod Nicolson
While the room feature is a step in the right direction, we need to be able to create filters, that are accessible easily and are nondestructive to the main page. Perhaps Like Gmail, we could see all of the stuff at once, or just one filter at a time. In this case I'd have one for tech luminaries that post a lot, and people I really know. - Elliott Plack
FF is a great way of aggregating al my feeds, and I love it for that. If all my friends were on it rather than just Facebook, then they'd find out more about me, because I don't just post to Facebook. Why should they have to get a signon and subscribe to a dozen different services just because that's how I chose to publish my content? - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
What would be great desktop clients for FF? Thoughts? - Prakash
Robert, I read your comment on the blog. Re #2 and #5 - I agree that tracking topics is especially important on FF. I personally don't want IM notifications and all that - I want a pure FF interface play. I played with some ideas a while ago, see http://ffapps.com/stickys... - it doesn't take into consideration min number of likes or anything like that, but this is how I personally think FF should approach the need for real-time tracking. - Aviv from ffreader
Robert, it's all because of the user base and the ease of use, I'm guessing. I use Plaxo more than FF. And really, use Twitter more than 10x more than either of them. Not just for making updates, but to get updates from others, headline relays, etc. I use BrightKite and sometimes Twitterfone or Jott when I'm sending an update on the go, but they have value for me precisely because they all feed Twitter. Pownce arguably outperforms Twitter in terms of flexibility and reliability, but who uses that much? - mark zero (Jason)
@aviv, is this thing works? http://ffreader.com/ or just for you because you built it? - Orli Yakuel
The comments by Cyndy Aleo-Carreira are pretty apt actually; it is actually irritating to see information repeated; i don't like the reordering either; and discussions stripped from the blogs onto itself is understandably annoying to several people. - Parth Awasthi
Since it is a lifestreaming application I believe most people use FriendFeed as a secondary application to Twitter. Also I think it would do alot better if the FriendFeed-is-Clunky-on-Twhirl issue would be fixed. For example, half way through writing those two sentences Twhirl updated the FF stream and everything I typed was lost. I almost said screw it and just didn't comment, but... more... - william douglas watson from twhirl
FF is my all-in-one Web 2.0 Solution and there are enough excellent desktop clients - FF is my new center to the world! ;-) - Dieter Schwarz from Alert Thingy
Orli - it does and is currently being tested before ship day. - Aviv from ffreader
The complaints that FF is too complicated are perfectly valid for a lot of people. Something like FF is geared towards the early adopter, those already on a mutlitude of other services and are looking to pull it all together in to one melting pot with comments. Joe Public doesn't work, think or behave like this - many just want a simple messaging system which is why Twitter clicks and... more... - Colin Walker
Aviv, will be really glad to test it! Robert, take a look at this: http://ffreader.com/ - Orli Yakuel
Scoble: I've not built this, this is not Paul Bucheit. I just know that some of this is coming it has to because if it didn't this wouldn't grow. I also know that people will have there problems just like DIGG people didn't like Digg because it had it's own little problem and you see how many flock to be over there!! - Paul
having fun rather than using social networking as a serious discussion tool. We need a change of mindset or to just accept that fact that different services will attract different people and ne'er the twain shall meet. A service has to identify its target audience and then fully understand it, providing those features that audience demands rather than trying to convince those outside of... more... - Colin Walker
Orli: I can't log into ffreader.com. I'm using Firefox 3.0 RC1. - Robert Scoble
It's like I'm living in a bizarro universe here. FF is dead simple to me - and was right off the bat. You add services, you add friends and then watch and participate. Pretty easy to me. I also don't know why people bring up twitter all the time when talking about FF. I don't see them as remotely similar or in any kind of competition. They're two apps that have a similar "audience" but that's it. Two different purposes and needs fulfilled. I'm baffled by some of the responses here. - Vince DeGeorge
Cyvros/fyc: I am sure they are going to fix the commenting problem. They probably hear about that everyday they check there emails or watch the FF scroll up and down. I also know that the fixed width is not so bad once you understand that it's to show a comment or a link!! I understand how frustrating it can be and can't wait for the changes that are inevitable because without Change there is no community!! - Paul
Vince: Twitter and FriendFeed are joined at the hip for me. I see them as different things, too, but I'd like to see FriendFeed adopt a few of the things that Twitter showed the world first. IM integration for one. Track for two. SMS capability for three (er, and a mobile client). - Robert Scoble
Vince: I say you've hit the nail on it's head with Twitter and FF, You can't possibly do this type of commenting and discussion with Twitter!! Twitter only allows 150 characters!! - Paul
robert, FF is growing. it's growth in the past couple weeks is outstanding. you aren't going to get everyone to use it though. and you really should stop comparing it to twitter. because it's fundamentally different. twitter is a microblogging service. it's where we go to post things that are quick, easy, and brief. FF is a social media aggregation (and hopefully re-aggregation) service. they are both important tools and their growth should happen together. and that's happening. be patient and positive. - Fred Wilson
FriendFeed needs a better commenting system ie Disqus. I have to confess I joined and then didn't use it for a while. Now I am totally hooked. I think some people try it and leave before they truly understand it. It's up to us to convince everyone to stay. - Michael McGimpsey
@vdegeorge I totally agree. I found FF completely simple to set up. I just keep adding my feeds until I run out, and give people my FF URL. They don't even have to actually subscribe if they don't want to. It's perfect. Of course, Twitter updates go into it, so they don't need to go to Twitter to see them, or Facebook, or Flickr, or my blog. In fact, I'm not even that bothered about the conversation functionality, which does mess the homepage up a bit, I just want to publish my content so people can see it. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
This is in fact strange; I am not a twitter user, but I am a FriendFeed user. I really like FriendFeed far better then Twitter. And the community part here in FriendFeed is what makes me coming back and check out what is going on. Twitter has too much noise for me... - Joao
Fred Wilson: patience? Patience? Heheh. Good point. We all want it and we want it now. I don't see where I'm comparing it to Twitter, although, to tell you the truth, if it added a few things it could get me to switch even more of my usage away from Twitter. Twitter is doing that on its own, though, by going down so often. I know FriendFeed wants to be different than Twitter, but it has enough similarities that it begs for a few more. - Robert Scoble
Part of the thing with whether FF will take off mainstream or not is based on how people want to use it. I think the discussion thing that we're all into here is a mainly geeky tech-person thing to be into (and proud of it!) but my Mom isn't going to bother. However, if like me you're mainly bothered about your friends seeing your new Flickr photos even though they're not personally on Flickr, then it's got mainstream appeal. I mean, people don't even have to actually subscribe to FF to see my updates. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
Robert - you keep talking about how you need and like the noise. I guess some people prefer the signal... - jeremy ettinghausen
jeremy: you missunderstand what I'm saying. It's pretty clear you aren't reading what I'm saying. +I+ don't mind the noise. I can deal quite well with FriendFeed how it is. That's not the point. The point is that I'm trying to get other people into FriendFeed. They DO NOT deal with noise as well as I do. They want far better tools to remove noise (remove Scoble is just one of those tools). I want more people here, to get even more noise, but to do that we've gotta have better tools. The tools are for THEM. - Robert Scoble
Jeremy: That's a good point. The feeds are the signal (Flickr, Twitter etc) and the FF comments are the noise, as far as I'm concerned. However the comments are the feedback, so depending on your point of view, they're arguably more interesting to the originator. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
Fred Wilson: where in this thread did I compare FriendFeed to Twitter. I went back and reread everything I've written about this and I don't get why you are saying I'm doing that? Just because I want IM/XMPP? Is that a Twitter exclusive feature that no other "live web" service should have? - Robert Scoble
Neil: to me comments (and likes, which are just really a different kind of comment) are the signal that the original post or tweet or photo, etc isn't noise and is worth paying attention to. - Robert Scoble
robert, i am not talking about this thread, i, like many people, follow what you say and do. it's the entirety of your stance on FF and Twitter that I am talking about. but that's not really the point i am making. FF is an amazing service. so is Twitter. and i believe they are both going to get better and better, and easier and easier to use. - Fred Wilson
I think a bare-bones FF platform might serve it better in the long-run, since it will undoubtedly result in a bunch of third-party products and add-ons that enhance (or even finally enable) the FF experience for specific audiences or purposes (meme-tracking, desktop photo browsers, etc.). Either way, I think right now we're not seeing much innovation from third-parties beyond basic FF... more... - Aviv from ffreader
one of the lessons from Twitter and other services we invest in is if you let the activity happen outside of the web service (via the API and other things), you actually get more users back to the web service itself. so that's why I am so interested in getting these discussions pumped elsewhere, like my blog via disqus (when the discussion is about a blog post i wrote). if that happens, then FF becomes even more relevant, more important, more useful, and more used. - Fred Wilson
Scoble: Which is a perfect illustration of my point - people want different things out of FF, and we all have our own terminology. For you "noise" means something different to me. Of course, comments on my own FF entries isn't noise, it's "feedback", and that's different :). Anyway, when it comes to "FF isn't taking off", I think it could be a target market issue. I'd say FF has more... more... - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
>>For you "noise" means something different to me. Here's a definition: NOISE: you talking about lunch. SIGNAL: me talking about lunch. Heheh. - Robert Scoble
>>so that's why I am so interested in getting these discussions pumped elsewhere, like my blog via disqus. Fred: I am totally in agreement here. It's one reason why I put the FriendFeed widget on my own blog (and am evaluating other schemes to integrate comments here and there). - Robert Scoble
@Paul Short - good point. Is FF trying to be too many things to too many people and is this why it doesn't appeal? The information on the About page is minimal and, whilst it conveys what FF is about at its core level, the way the service moves on is determined by the way it is used. I have no doubt that FF would be a completely different animal if it were populated by a different set of people rather than the usual suspects we find here. - Colin Walker
Colin: We agree. I still maintain it's a target audience issue. The people using it will make it what it is. This is exactly what happened to Twitter. It started as "answering one simple question: 'what are you doing?'" and turned into a messaging/communication system by virtue of the way people used it. The same will happen to FF over time. I'm using it in a totally different way to... more... - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
dying already? I thought it will get the necessary traction and kill socialthing before it gets launched. - Palin Ningthoujam
Palin: I'm not using Socialthing, am I? :-) - Robert Scoble
SocialThing is pretty much dead in the water anyway. Scaling back on services supported, too long in closed beta, not supporting the most popular web browser - all bad decisions which caused it to get left behind. - Colin Walker
As compared to Twitter, I get to see more meaningful conversations here in FF (no word limit.. yay!). It's more difficult to follow conversations in Twitter too even with those 3rd party tools like: Quotably etc, and I think I get to socialise with more people on FF. But I agree that it's difficult to sell the concept of FF to friends.. It's either you get it, or not. - Winston Teo
@Winston, there is a word limit it's just significantly higher that's all. - Colin Walker
@scoble: In http://secondbrain.com we have a different approach to aggregation.We organize all the content into personal content libraries where it can be browsed by tags and remixed into collections among other things. - Lars Teigen
@Scoble - I *totally* agree with you. FriendFeed adoption rate is impacted by lack of end-user tools to manage the frenzy of information aggregated in FF. For example, when I scrolled down to "catch up" this morning, I was notice this 1 post had over 97 comments! Holy crap that's way too much information. *Sigh*. This application is geared towards users that have a high capacity for information and can navigate a complex weave of conversations, posts, photos, blogs & other social media widget outputs! - Susan Beebe
I think FF only starts making sense once you get a nice, active network of friends. It's the conversation that makes FF interesting to me. Without it I might not be here. - Benjamin Golub
Susan: You're totally right, unless it's not the comments you want. If you just want to use FF as a content aggregation tool though, you lose the "noise" that is the comments. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
The Comments is my *favorite* feature! but this is where most users would give me the deer-in-the-headlights look and close the application - Susan Beebe
Susan: Which goes back to my point (buried in the previous comments :)) that it depends on what people want it for. People who glaze over at the comments might not want it for that. - Neil Barnwell from twhirl
In my opinion, FF needs to focus on the Feed. Think of the current web UI as a "default" presentation of the Feed that underlies it. This means, make the API the most capable API possible; even at the expense of the UI. Things like import, integration, automatic creation of Imaginary Friends, etc. *Other* people will innovate on the UI, if the API is at least as capable as friendfeed.com is. When I import a new service, I would like to carry my network of friends from that service into FF, creating... - Kenneth LeFebvre
...Imaginary Friends as necessary, to keep my network complete. Give me the ability to merge Imaginary Friends, so I can manually make the connections across networks. Give me two-way participation from FF back to all those other networks, and I will use FF as my client for everything. ...just my 2¢... :) - Kenneth LeFebvre
Neil - true. Need a way to "hide" comments as well perhaps for those users who don't want to see them. I will *not* be in that use case! ;-) - Susan Beebe
At the risk of repeating: I think that FriendFeed is one of those tools designed for Mavens, Connectors, and Salespeople (i.e. Tipping Point concepts). Gather and discuss info, form opinions and ideas, crystallize thinking. Is it the best tool for broadcasting back out to the world? Don't know, maybe that's where Twitter/Pownce/Jaiku belong. - Mark Dykeman
@Paul B It was written last month, but the increase in traffic over that month has made the points I made in my post even more obvious. More activity doesn't fix the problems; it only makes them more apparent. It's the main reason why I don't follow Robert, but pick him up on occasion as FOAF. He shares something. Then odds are Louis shares it, or Duncan shares it. Then Corvida shares it and Diggs it. Sarah Perez shares it. Then maybe Steven Hodson shares it. - Cyndy
taking off with early early adopters or early adopters? This seems a tad premature. Twitter is 2 years old...it didn't take off until..what.. a year into it? year and a half? a month ago? - Bwana ☠
@Bwana Twitter is 2 years old, uses a much less "early adopter" mentality for its premise (messaging vs. aggregating), and, well, isn't doing so hot at the limited amount of "taking off" that it's doing. - Cyndy
Is it just me is or are aggregators like FF not going far enough in aggregating? I want to comment to a blog post fed here and have the comment go back on the blog. I want to frigging import my twitter followers/ees into friendfeed without manually creating an imaginary friend for each one that isn't on FF yet. I want to go to one place and not have to worry that i'm missing some part of a conversation. FF is aggregating, it's more of a window on different pieces of different fractured conversations. - S. Charles Balazs
Being in the minority (e.g. not in the Internet / Web industries or one who's presence is across a multitude of services), I came to FF due to the aggregation aspect. I don't have much to aggregate (I only have three services connected), but I totally grooved on the commenting and interaction aspect of the service. I found FF to be quite intuitive and the sharing of so many "tidbits"... more... - JA Castillo
@Bwana - I was just thinking the same thing. @Robert - Not taking off the way Twitter did? Twitter really just hit its inflection point in March of this year. Let's look at where Twitter was at this time in its life to get an apples-to-apples comparison. - Hutch Carpenter
Clay Shirky nails it in the WSJ: "It’s almost universally the case with social software that the software that launches with the fewest features is the stuff that takes off...nobody wants a door with 37 handles. Twitter has six features, and it launched with only one. A brutally simple mental model of the software that’s shared by all users turns out to be a better predictor of adoption...than a completely crazy collection of features that ends up being slightly different for every user." - Michael Nielsen
Michael- but by that logic FriendFeed should be huge and Facebook should've flopped... - Mike
wow this entry has ganied a lot of comments- 90++ , a harvest of users thoughts for FF :)- - Peter Dawson
Have to agree with Hutch. It took Twitter a year to get beyond the techies and early adopters. A couple of weeks in the bigger spotlight doesn't determine whether FriendFeed will make it or break it. Give it a chance. I'm placing my chips on it. - Robert Sanzalone
Mike - Everyone I know described Facebook the same way early on: "It's a way of connecting and keeping up with your friends". I've never heard two people give the same explanation for FF. "It's like Twitter, but with longer tweets". "It's like Twitter, but with other stuff." "No, it's an aggregator for information!" There's no shared mental model, and so the network effects are much weaker than Facebook. - Michael Nielsen
FF's complexity (which is really elegant simplicity to those who get it) is its greatest asset. FF exposes the Z axis in an otherwise XY web. If that were represented visually on FF (as a toggle?), more noobs would adopt - more topics would appear, more friends, more feeds, more goodness. - Noah Carter
FF doesn't seem complex to me, but it does take a bit of time at first to see what one can get out of it. FF seems to be different things to different people - but that's one of the things I like about it. It's useful in more than one way. Aside from the echo effect, the posted link doesn't seem to have much in the way of good criticism. People keep complaining about noise; that's what the hide feature is for. - Tanath
I fully admit that I tried out FriendFeed for a day and quit. It initially wasn't easy for me to pick it up. But, I kept hearing about it on Twitter and gave it another try. I now use FriendFeed much more than Twitter. - Patrick
The thing with Twitter is that peeps can just post and answer any echoes back, it's low intensity. FF however, requires the user to be a bit more ballsy, if you like. To get the most out of it, you have to be prepared to chime in, post and have a debate or convo with a multitude of people you've almost never met. The two are very different. - Sally Church
I like Sally's thinking. I've often thought Twitter is for all people comfortable with chatting/instant messaging. Friendfeed seems geared more towards the type of people who'd post in forums or leave comments on blogs (a smaller group). However, I don't really have a sense for what % of FriendFeed users are voyeurs or what its potential is with people who'd like to view it all (even the conversation threads) without participating. - Robert Seidman
@Parth Thank you, and I agree. Love that it's generated 100 comments, though. ;) @Mark Dykeman I think you have the core demographic nailed there. @Robert I love forums, but forums are WAY more organized and have nowhere near the duplication as FF does. - Cyndy
Feature request - Place a # next to each comment so I can refer back to # x comment above. This is a standard feature on many blogs' comments. This post with over 100 comments in reply is a perfect use case to justify this feature!! - Susan Beebe
Susan: that's called anchors :) http://www.w3.org/TR... - directeur
Main reason I use it: condensing all my feeds into one spot, both those I read and those I produce. Main gripe: no way to quickly highlight what I haven't seen. - xero
Another feature request - Let me subscript my friend's tweet only(not including flickr etc). This can be done by `Imaginary friend` but it would be more useful with one-click feature. - satoko
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