'...fans gathered around the country and paid $15 cover charges or $35 table fees, to see Yuri Foreman, The Lion of Zion, the FSU born, Haifa raised boxer and rabbinical student, the Kosher Krusher, Hebrew Hand Grenade, and Dreidel of Destruction win a unanimous decision over a hefty Santos for the WBA middle welter weight title in Las Vegas. Mazel Tough. No plans for a Foreman Grille, but how about a Foreman Falafel Maker.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
from Bookmarklet
We went to Outback for the first time in over a year yesterday. I ate my body weight in cheese fries and ranch. I was almost immediately violently ill (in my butthole region). Outback is like an abusive boyfriend I keep going back to even though I know it will punish me.
perhaps but I haven't been tested, I generally try to avoid most dairy though. It's just so delicious :(
- Andrizzle Gizzle
That region is known for its own unique microclimate and a dizzying array of colorful flora and fauna. Go in the spring before the summer tourists flood the countryside.
- Christopher Harley
from iPhone
That sounds like good ol' lactose intolerance. For special occasions, you might want to break out the Lactaid - it can really help. I have to have that when I eat lots of pizza, 'cause I'm not giving up the pizza I just don't want to die of awful afterwards.
- Jennifer Dittrich
Well it's weird because I can eat some things, like I never really have a problem with pizza, but if I eat alfredo I will get sick.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
mozzarella has less fat than some cheeses, so it might not bother you as much. I can eat pizza (if I don't over-indulge), but ice cream can be a problem for me.
- Katy S
The internet ones seem overpriced, too. I may have to look around the next time I have a job in the valley.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
They're pretty cheap here in LA. I've seen them as low as $10 in some of the stores a few cities over. Also try a chef-supplier store. They're really cheap there...well, at least here they are.
- Anika
There's one for $40 on amazon. They're 20+ in Dallas stores.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
How big is it? I've seen a $50 one, but it was like a foot in diameter and probably about 6" high. That was a chef-supply place in Glendale, CA.
- Anika
Thanks Jimminy, have you gained weight?
- ashish
from iPhone
LOL @ (Outsanity) Ashish, no, but I haven't lost anymore either.
- Jimminy
Where'd you go? Ahh, caught up, self discovery and introspection excellent choice as librarian. I suspect that role will evolve with the growing deluge of digital data. You may be well poised to take up the reigns by starting your own digital collection of free ebooks cataloged a way that's easy for people to find. I tried doing this a while back with a squidoo lens:http://www.squidoo.com/e-BookL... but moved on.
- Mark Essel
I went to be with my Aunt while she was having surgery, crazy old bat was up and running around 2 days after the surgery, and they wanted her to take an 8 week leave because most patients don't even get out of bed for 4-6 weeks.
- Jimminy
On the Sony DSR-250. Since the dancefloor is on shock absorbers, it looks like I'll be on my shoulder all night. Challenging!
- Christopher Harley
from email
hope it is going/went well! that floor is kinda interesting.
- holly
That floor proved to be a real problem. The tripod was jumping about. I had to go on the shoulder for most of the show. We're at intermission now. The judges are voting.
- Christopher Harley
from iPhone
is there a way, for the odd shot/sequence, to make the floor work for you? or is it just a pain?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I'm Camera 4 at the foot of the catwalk. It's happening right now! Wish me luck, I'll be there from set-up: 3:00pm all the way to breakdown: 11:00pm. This is the biggest, most complex, shoot I've worked on. I'm a little nervous. Just a little.
- Christopher Harley
from Bookmarklet
Does anyone know anything about getting bad smells out of cardboard/plastic toys? If my mom brings me all my old things I would like to donate them, I have a lot of MIB dolls I don't want to mess with selling, but the smell will be an issue. Any ideas?
Maybe rubbing them with vinegar will help or just leaving them outside to air. I am under no disillusions that MIB collectible things are going to be saved so I'm not worried about ruining the boxes but I don't want to donate stinky toys to kids.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
direct sunlight works too. a couple of hours of that does the trick too
- Morgan Haley
Put it in a container with un-scented cat litter or baking soda. Both are designed to absorb odors.
- Katy S
I don't know about cardboard, but you might want to soak the plastic toys in a diluted solution of bleach. It'll kill any bacteria, mold, etc.
- Sarah June
Diluted white vinegar for the plastic and Katy's suggestion for the cardboard sounds solid, I was thinking of baking soda too. And leaving them to air outside if possible.
- Heather
What kind of smells are we talking about? Cigarette smoke or other?
- Jeff P. Henderson
animal/grime - I think they've been in the basement at this point for 8 years but they weren't protected or anything.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Oh, I thought you meant the smell of childhood dreams dashed on the rocks of sticky, adolescent, fumbling made whole again by the stink of adult psychosis. So, yeah, Febreze should do the trick.
- Christopher Harley
ha ha I guess these are meant to be the playthings of the children it becomes increasingly obvious we will never have
- Andrizzle Gizzle
"What are the ethics in creating an application for the AppStore, charging money for it, and then abandoning it’s development, but still charging for an application that has known bugs?" and "The second thing that’s really starting to annoy me is that iPhone developers are lambasting the AppStore process in public forums, without thinking about how consumers feel. There’s a key difference between developing for a desktop platform and a mobile device, and I think it’s about time we actually talk about them. Developers need to realize that consumers approach mobile applications in a very different way than they approach desktop applications. They need to develop accordingly, instead of whining and complaining about how Apple has created a closed system"
- Joshua Schnell
from Bookmarklet
Hah, care to elaborate Glen and Maxamad ?
- Joshua Schnell
I appreciate heavy mediation in some things. The AppStore is one of those things. For me, it works.
- Christopher Harley
As a heavy buyer of apps, I get annoyed by all the developer complaining. They seem to spend more time fighting Apple than caring for the consumers. Might just be a PR thing, but the constant whining pushes me toward developers that don't whine publicly.
- Graham English
Graham, that's an excellent point. I understand that the squeaky wheel gets the oil, but it is getting to be a bit much. I also think it's unacceptable that some are backing out on their projects and discontinuing support for applications people have recently paid for. Seems selfish to me.
- Joshua Schnell
Totally agree. Especially the Facebook app fiasco. Dude gets all huffy and drops out and just today the app was updated. So to me, the process seems to work despite the pissy developer. If I was FB, I'd be pissed with all the negative attention. So yeah, selfish.
- Graham English
Not only that, but my phone needs to be secure so I welcome the scrutiny. It might be a pain for the developers, but my phone is like my wallet. CC#s, data, my identity, it's all got to be protected.
- Graham English
That's what has me all annoyed. They don't stop and think about us, instead they worry about how fast they can push something out, and collect some coin, or so it seems.
- Joshua Schnell
You said it! Why are the developers so annoyed with Apple? Because it's slowing down their profits. In this day and age, we could all use some restraint. Greed ain't good.
- Graham English
may I point out this as just 1 of the examples as to why developers are bitching about the way apple is handling iphone app submissions http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009... Apple are really causing many of the problems you're complaining about. Many developers are seeing their app submissions being delayed and/or rejected with zero feedback from Apple. Some apps...
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- alphaxion
"It is a well-known fact that the homosexuals have been secretly working to subvert American laws for quite some time, but the new violent turn has surprised many people (other than myself). It may have its roots in the political loss in Maine, where voters unanimously said they hate the gay lifestyle that has been overrunning their state with bed & breakfast hotels and antique shops for years. In the past, homosexuals have thrilled at outlaw sex, whether it’s hard up against a wall in 1950s public restrooms, in the 1960s in Manhattan’s West Side piers where orgies of horny, drug-addled libertines would rape each other until dawn or even in the coke-fueled 70s where big hair and flared slacks didn’t prevent them from spraying their sticky seed showers from San Francisco to Savannah"
- Sparky, a big deal
from Bookmarklet
"Lately, the gays have become obsessed with homosexual marriage. They have tried to bribe numerous politicians with fundraising campaigns, political action committees and threats of voting in blocks to pursue this perverted un-Constitutional agenda. With musky thrill of a few wrongheaded victories, the gays have pushed harder, demanding greater visibility on network television,...
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- Sparky, a big deal
The article closes with the author encouraging good Christians to buy a gun and learn to use it to defend themselves from the sodomites.
- Sparky, a big deal
Wow, that article is a special kind of crazy. I hope you don't think this is a typical Christian viewpoint...
- Nate True
Nate - not in the slightest. It is however the viewpoint of a frightening minority of Christians. Sadly much as a few Muslim terrorists give the religion a bad name so doth a few whackjob hate-filled Christians give the other followers of Christ a stigma of hatred and intolerance.
- Sparky, a big deal
This kills me: "...drug-addled libertines would rape each other until dawn or even in the coke-fueled 70s where big hair and flared slacks didn’t prevent them from spraying their sticky seed showers from San Francisco to Savannah..." Really, Christians?
- Derrick
Good to know. @chriscardinal says Christwire is actually a satire site too.
- Nate True
It also disturbs me how ready we are to believe this whole article is the real opinion of someone.
- Nate True
Nate - that's very true. Sadly it's hard to spot satire when there are a lot of folks out there who really do have those beliefs.
- Sparky, a big deal
(proof comes from the community I grew up in that just voted 70% against civil rights for gay people, and in polling would have done the same for ethnic minorities - I've lived through Christian hatred, but also experienced a warm embrace from others)
- Sparky, a big deal
Hmmm. My work proxy blocks christwire.org. Not sure how I feel about that.
- Sam Carlson
Andru speaks truth! Nate, Andru, Akiva, Rochelle, Joeybean, my parents, and many others are proof that Christians can be warm, loving, and accepting people. It's just sad that not all Christians share that positive world view.
- Sparky, a big deal
Sparky, huh? Did you forget that Akiva and I are Jewish? That means not Christian.
- Rochelle
Isn't Jewish a subset(superset?) of Christian? I realize it's more differentiated than Catholic or whatnot, but to my mind it's all part of the same group of people who believe in the same god, and follow the same bible (or at least the old testament), right? Or am I grossly misinformed?
- Sparky, a big deal
Long story short: Christians don't follow Torah and Jews don't believe in Jesus. We worship the same deity, however. I might suggest that if you don't know the difference between Jews and Christians, you might not want to talk about religion.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I would opposite-suggest that if you don't know the difference between Jews and Christians, it is important that you ask questions and learn about religion!
- Nate True
I recognize that they are separate entities, but doesn't worshiping the same god mean they are the same religion? What defines a religion? Is it the god, or the dogma surrounding the god?
- Sparky, a big deal
Good point, Nate. Thus I would co-suggest that, before you talk about religion, you learn about it first.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sparky, a lot of things make religions different. Do you know that Muslims also worship the same deity?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I didn't. I thought Muslims worshiped a single god akin to Christiantiy, but that it was a separate god. *cues the More You Know graphic*
- Sparky, a big deal
So wait - the clash between Muslims, Jews, and Christians is all about interpretation of the same god then? That seems like a petty difference to kill people over.
- Sparky, a big deal
It is petty to fight over, but you know how us humans fight over petty things all the time, right? (Irony point, it's also the same God whom atheists claim doesn't exist.)
- Nate True
This conversation has never taken place before now?
- Christopher Harley
Sparky, there's far more to it than just that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sparky: Jews and Christians both (at least claim to) worship the Semitic deity Yahweh. Jews think that their favorite deity is in fact one entity, whereas Christians think Yahweh is both one, and three.
- Christopher A Carr
For the record, Jews never refer to G-d by the name that Christopher Carr just used. Just sayin'.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Nate - slight difference. Atheists don't claim a particular god doesn't exist, we believe no god exists.
- Sparky, a big deal
But the claim that no god exists *is* a claim that any particular god doesn't exist.
- Nate True
And add to that the majority of atheist argument is against the Judeo-Christian-Islam God existing, despite the preponderance of evidence I'd be happy to discuss with you.
- Nate True
Sparky, Occam's razor suggests that the real reasons people kill each other are not the stated ones.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I grew up in a Jewish home, as a Christian. It's interesting to see the things that kinda got brushed aside. Like how just about all Jewish words that address God are plural words in the language.
- Andru Edwards
As for atheism, I think it is silly that we know so LITTLE about the universe...hell, we JUST found water on the MOON that has been there all this time. We discover new species of things on this planet all the time...and yet people can say that they are 100% sure there is no God. That nowhere in the vast space of the cosmos can there be a God somewhere. Then when you wanna talk about...
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- Andru Edwards
I'm not 100% certain there is no god. I have 0 proof there is no god. I just don't have proof that there is either.
- Sparky, a big deal
That sounds more like agnostic to me than atheist.
- Nate True
Don't take it as me addressing you specifically, I just mean the ones I have talked to about this particular subject - which I don't think I have with you. That said, typically atheists I have talked to *ARE* sure that there is 100% no God out there at all, period. They don't care to hear any proof you may have.
- Andru Edwards
I'm agnostic with atheist leanings. I generally stay away from all religions though as the *only* times in my life I have been subject to hatred it has been in the name of religion. That's not specific to Christianity, Judaism, or whatnot - it's "Religion". By the same token I recognize that hatred is not a direct result of religion as I've also met a large number of religious people who lack that characteristic.
- Sparky, a big deal
I've yet to meet an atheist that can prove to me that G-d doesn't exist. Yet they're usually more certain about it than most theists are that G-d does exist. Takes a lot of faith to be an atheist, I guess.
- Akiva Moskovitz
So my lack of faith makes me an agnostic? I don't believe in anything that can't be proved. This (currently) includes God, as well as not-God. If anyone could produce what summed up to convincing evidence either way I'd be happy to change my opinion in this matter, but I've never seen either a religious person or a 'devout atheist' do this yet.
- Sparky, a big deal
Let's talk at Mind Camp. I would like to present to you what I believe to be a compelling case.
- Nate True
Why do people never include the Zoroastrians in discussions of monotheism? :)
- Victor Ganata
I've always thought it's because when people say 'religion', they usually mean 'Christianity'. 'I hate religion!' 'Oh, really? What have the Hindus done to you lately?' 'Uh...'
- Akiva Moskovitz
I still think you all need to come to a Pastafarianism church.
- CW™
Let's define--Agnostic: "God cannot be known." Atheist: "Pending sufficient evidence, I do not believe in a god." Some would argue that an agnostic holds to a more stringent dogma than that of an atheist. Any atheist who says they know 100% that there is no god is not only a rarity but also an idiot. Most atheists are "weak atheists," who simply claim no positive believe in any gods. There are some who have a positive claim that god doesn't exist, but again, this is rare.
- Neil Estep
Niel: I'd fall into the weak atheist category by your definition then, although with a little agnostic thrown in. To my mind if god did exist how could us mere mortals possibly comprehend such a being.
- Sparky, a big deal
Atheism: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
- Brenda Ferguson
Agnosticism: 1. One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God. 2. One who is skeptical about the existence of God but does not profess true atheism.
- Brenda Ferguson
Neil, you're not correct. Both definitions you gave above are Agnostic. Let's break it down: Atheism is a belief system that there is absolutely no god, period. There is no proof that would convince, there is no reason to even discuss it, the universe is a hollow deterministic shell. end of story. Notice that this is a BELIEF system, not a proof system. It takes just as much faith to be...
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- veo
Heh, well the last of those three positions is basically Pascal's wager, which from certain perspectives is actually quite logical :)
- Victor Ganata
Victor, all these positions make sense to those who hold them. I wasn't aware of Pascal's wager until you just mentioned it. You're right, they are basically the same position. I find it the most wishy washy however because basically it's just someone hedging their bets. They don't believe honestly but are going to play along anyway JUST IN CASE. But whatever works for an individual is ultimately fine with me but for some reason that stance irritates me...it seems kind of duplicitous.
- veo
It's funny how much time we spend defining terms like agnostic, atheist, Jew, Christian, Muslim, etc. The fact is that every person has a swirl of beliefs that may generally coincide with one or more of the broad terms but is nonetheless unique, and the beliefs of an individual are in constant flux, changing as we learn new things.
- Nate True
Nate, I agree with you. With the possible exception of a minority of staunch hardcore fundamentalists, I can only imagine everyone's individual religious milieu is in constant flux, influenced by the ebb and flow of life experiences. I know mine is. But it's also helpful to clearly define various landmarks and goal posts in that space. Thats what Philosophers and Theologists have been doing for centuries.
- veo
Yes, there is a spectrum among agnostics and atheists. However, the definitions I offered above represent the lowest common denominator. And Brenda's definitions back up those definitions. Weak atheism is also known as Agnostic atheism, and it falls in that spectrum. And Brenda's definitions back up those definitions. Veo, you're right to some extent. However, atheism is not a "belief...
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- Neil Estep
That's a contradiction. "There is no doctrine to which atheists unwaveringly subscribe" and "There is no single underlying thread among them other than a lack of belief in any gods". I'm also not understanding your distinction between "lack of a belief in any god" and "belief of lack of any god" - the latter is what atheists are known for, but you seem to be asserting that the former is...
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- Nate True
Nate, please explain where you see the contradiction. There is most certainly a distinction between a negative claim ("I don't believe in any gods"--weak atheism) and a positive claim ("I believe there aren't any gods"--strong atheism). For one thing, someone making a positive claim is charged with proving that claim. One recognizes that there is a claim and does not subscribe to that...
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- Neil Estep
Many, yes, because you kept pointing to your faith in the scientific establishment.
- Nate True
Science is a fact. Mind you, science doesn't preclude god, but neither does god preclude science. At least not for those religious folks that choose not to take the bible (or their religions equivalent) on a literal word for word basis.
- Sparky, a big deal
And I mean in the context in which you're using it in your sentence, Nate.
- Neil Estep
That's a weird thing to say. Science is a field of study, and cannot be falsified nor truthified. And I define faith as trust or reliance in something, which is the Biblical definition (though later in the Bible it is used as "the faith" meaning Christian church)
- Nate True
Some philosophers have argued that that's precisely what separates science from metaphysics: scientific theories CAN be falsified, if an observation contradicts the hypothesis. That's the key: observations must be replicable, and correct theories have to be right 100% of the time, otherwise they're not correct. There is still a degree of faith in science, since there's probably not...
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- Victor Ganata
Nate, Science is a logical methodology, not a "field of study" and models of the universe developed with science can in fact be objectively verified by observation or proven false. Basically what Victor said. Science also has the power to make PREDICTIONS which can then be acted upon or experimented against and get concrete, repeatable results. Science is much more rigorous then...
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- veo
haha, and with that, this thread has officially gone pear-shaped.
- veo
Sometimes I just want to post the first couple of chapters of The God Delusion in threads like this. Atheism and Agnosticism can be pretty interchangeable as it relates to many nonbelievers, except calling ourselves Agnostic gets people to keep from trying to convert us. Also, you can't prove a negative, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Invisible Pink Unicorns on the Far Side of the Moon, yadda, yadda...
- Rob H.
You CAN prove a negative (this is why we no longer believe phlogiston or the lumeniferous aether exists), but the absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence :)
- Victor Ganata
Veo, I do not argue with your definition of science; I misspoke when saying it was a field of study. I do want to make the distinction, however, that science and scientists are different - scientists are people, and all people are and always have been subject to irrationality and emotionality that clouds our rational judgment. So while science and the scientific method may be pure ways of achieving reason and rationality, no person is able to fully implement it in all aspects of their life.
- Nate True
Nate, some would argue that that's the beauty of science: it doesn't depend on people, it just depends on replicable observations. So while the observations may be made by people who can be irrational and emotional, repeated consistent observations by multiple different people tend to cancel those things out.
- Victor Ganata
An excellent point Nate. Science is infallible, however scientists are highly fallible. That being said the pursuit of science (and thus truth) is a valid one, even if the pursuers don't usually achieve the absolute truth they seek.
- Sparky, a big deal
I definitely wouldn't say that the scientific method is infallible. Science has led us into some dead ends (like, again, phlogiston and the lumeniferous aether) but science has also managed to figure out that those were mistakes, and move on.
- Victor Ganata
Nate, that is a valid point but I agree with Sparky and Victor. Even a scientist who is an absolute failure of a human who lacks all personal morals and redeeming quality can do good science. If their research/experiment/discovery is repeatable and proves/disproves something new for scientific knowledge, the whole scientific realm moves forward based on an updated factual understanding...
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- veo
"Comparing the aesthetics of the iPhone and the Droid is.. ludicrous, if not impossible. It’d be like having a heated argument over whether Angelina Jolie was more or less gorgeous than Halle Berry."
- j1m
from Bookmarklet
"By the way, Mom, when it comes to toddlers- if they liked to be coaxed to drink their milk, try this: add 7-Up to the milk in equal parts, pouring the 7-Up gently into the milk. It’s a wholesome combination- and it works!"
- Rochelle
Vintage ads are so funny. I also love reading old cookbooks. Some include tips on old school entertaining "make sure everyone feels comfortable smoking - keep extra cigarettes handy and make sure plenty of ashtrays are on hand."
- Holly Rae, FFer
I don't understand why people get all "sad" and pull each others' dicks every time someone quits FF over something retarded. Who. Cares. Then they come back a week later and everyone jerks each other off again.
I agree. I get tired of seeing people go off in a huff and then fawned over when they come back a week later.
- Alan Simpson
I don't understand the level of hypersensitivity - I kind of do when it's a sixteen-year-old like Holden. But I also think maybe it takes a certain level of maturity to belong to a community like FF. Or is that the issue when it comes to the Adens and Lindseys of the world too?
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
I think I've missed out on a very significant part of the Friendfeed "community". And I'm not talking about Holden deleting his account.
- Kenton
Who came back? When I got unsubscribed from as part of mass unsubscribing, I returned the favor, so I might be missing something...
- Kamilah Gill
Aden's back, but I was thinking more generally. I have pretty much seen this in ever community I have belonged to. Someone gets upset and quits, then they come back and people fawn over them.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I see what happened to one of the young peoples of FF. All I can say is, sigh. I think all the folks under about 20 need a big fat disclaimer to tell people HEY YOU. YEAH, YOU. YOU ARE ADDRESSING A TEENAGER. GO A LITTLE EASY.
- Kamilah Gill
Some people are sad that others leave and then happy when they return. Its a social site that they all share their feelings and thoughts. Its part of the deal. When you delete your account and come back people will fawn over you too.
- CW™
I'm in the Rahsheen school of thought on this one. You'll only pry my FF account out of my cold, dead, hands.
- Kamilah Gill
Hey. Maybe if I pretend to leave in a huff and then come back a week later people will like me more. I should try this in real life as well.
- Alan Simpson
eh, Holden has no problem starting shit with people on a fairly frequent basis, I think at some point people can stop pulling punches on him.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I doubt most people would even notice if I quit.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I guess he's back already with a private feed? Holdenpage. For anyone who's interested. I'm really not. I just noticed. *shrug*
- Kamilah Gill
People like jerking off. What're you gonna do?
- Victor Ganata
Kamillah, it's me the Holdenpage account.
- Jimminy
ah, ok. you're messing around. You know, I get you two mixed up sometimes. are you sure you're not just one person?
- Kamilah Gill
LOL, we're not sure about that either sometimes.
- Jimminy
Because this whole site seems to be a popularity contest. Most of the shit I've read on here makes me cringe because it's either so self-absorbed or insane. I've seen some emotional breakdowns on FF that I've never seen on other social networks. Some chick was whining and moaning about her life the other day. I just rolled my eyes and kept the ball rolling. If you need to bitch & moan about how terrible your life is online, maybe you should think about getting a motherfucking therapist.
- Steven Summers
Therapy is expensive, and often not covered by insurance. This is free. :D
- Victor Ganata
Well, then at least use the social networking site that was made for emo retards. What's the name of it again? Oh yeah, MYSPACE.
- Steven Summers
Steven, if you don't like it when people post emotional stuff here, you can always hide or block. There's no need to chide people for doing it.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Dragon, I would. I noticed I mysteriously became unsubbed to you - musta happened when you enhanced your moniker - and I found THAT disturbing. (I also resubbed to you immediately.)
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
MaryB lol I wonder how that happened! I wish FF had a better way of seeing who is subbed to you because I never check those emails they send. :[
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I would never participate in a social network for emo retards unless Steven Summers was leading the charge.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Pulling my dick? No wonder I woke up all happy today.
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Nobody noticed when I left and then came back. But that might just be because I'm not mental.
- Christopher Harley
Akiva, I only take the truly insane. Do you qualify?
- Steven Summers
I think there is a large business opportunity for social network therapist, kind of like a Dr. Phil for social networks, though it would probably be better if you weren't mental like Dr. Phil.
- Ed Millard
Wow how did someone leave a comment with no name? I want.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
How can you truly understand crazy if you aren't crazy yourself? :)
- Victor Ganata
Very true Victor, that is the best explanation I've heard for Dr. Phil's success, that and Oprah made him. I'm wondering if Carrie Fischer is available to be the FriendFeed social network therapist, this place clearly needs one. Her therapist in Austin Powers was great.
- Ed Millard
Because I don't like my friends having to leave the party because of someone else. After 17 months here, I like this space. Some of the people were true friends and not everything is a circle jerk.
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
pulling dicks is better than pooling dicks.
- Morgan Haley
I understand why people get upset after they see people get "nerd mobbed" , because not all of them do come back. It seems like the same cast of characters doing it again and again.
- Joe
Wow, I have been missing all the drama lately, I guess... But Steven Summers is cracking me up. Of course social networking is part popularity contest... any social interactions are... LOL! But that's not the whole of it...
- Her Lindsay-ness
I just scroll past the stuff that is too much for me... And look for the stuff that makes me happy or makes me laugh instead.. most of the time you do a good job of that, Andrea. :)
- Her Lindsay-ness
These are some extremely nice/interesting FriendFeeders (Links above) There are many others... (sorry for the dozens of omissions), but follow them and you will soon find all the rest from there.
- SAM
I would just keep an eye out for people commenting on posts you comment on or like. That's a good way to find people with the same interests.
- Alan Simpson
Also, you could search groups for things you're interested in, then sub to people who are active on them.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
And most of us post about a lot of different things; the categorizations I did above are GROSS generalizations. Like Joey (SAM linked above, http://friendfeed.com/joeybean) had a really good thread on Gone With the Wind a couple of days ago. Alex posts about just about everything under the sun, as does RAP. So just poke around and check out the feeds of people whose comments you like as well.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
I agree with the way Jandy broke it down, it depends on your interests. You should find some people close to you, because they will have some overlap, then you should check out rooms and find people you enjoy that way. But here are few people I would recommend: Jandy for film and concerts (http://friendfeed.com/faithx5), Fossil Huntress for Palentology, hiking, kayaking and travel...
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- RAPatton
Considering that the most common modern method for doing the high jump was created by a white guy, your statement doesn't hold water, Josh. :)
- Alex Scoble
I didn't make a statement. I named a movie. OOOOH BURRRN!
- Josh Haley
I don't feel bad for her at all. She needs to have a learnin' put on her.
- Jim Hearts FF
Holden, why? Because she blocked my driveway and now I can't drive down my driveway? Akiva is blocked in and can't leave now. Why should I feel bad for the girl who did that?
- Rochelle
I blocked your driveway the other day and you didn't call the cops on me.
- Sparky, a big deal
Sparky, you're lucky I didn't see it!!!!!!!
- Rochelle
It's a bummer for her? She needs to pay attention to what she's doing. She probably just doesn't give a shit. She deserves the ticket for being a self-absorbed diaperlick.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I feel bad for the poor teenie-bopper because of the wrath of Rochelle...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I didn't wait til I was "old" to do that. Selfish behavior like that needs to be smacked down and smacked down HARD.
- Spidra Webster
If you're a licensed driver, it's your responsibility to follow laws (including not blocking driveways) whether you're 16 or 60.
- Rochelle
It doesn't even have to be a law. It just means you're thinking of others instead of ONLY of your own convenience. Something that is increasingly rare in US society, sadly.
- Spidra Webster
for some strange reason, this makes you even more desirable....way to stick up for what's right! you go girl!
- Morgan Haley
Being a teenager doesn't excuse you from being responsible. You make a mistake? You pay the price. End of story.
- Akiva Moskovitz
oh, i forgot to ask....was the teenage girl hot? :-)
- Morgan Haley
It doesn't matter if she did it on purpose or not. She broke a law and there's a penalty to pay for that. *shrug*
- Rochelle
What makes it worse is that there is PLENTY of street parking out there right now. Most of the block is empty. Parking directly in front of my driveway is all kinds of weird given how much space there is.
- Rochelle
Holden - 1.) The girls isn't reading this 2.) Even if she was, she wouldn't give you a hand job for sticking up for her - There's no point in taking a absurd point of view that no person could ever logically come to.
- Matthew DeVries
How could she "not know", Holden? Unless she's parking in front of her own driveway, she knows she's blocking someone else's driveway.
- Spidra Webster
Rather than call the cops, you should have lit her car on fire.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
So Holden, do you think that the magic moment that she turns 20 (not a teenager anymore), she *should* get a ticket but right now, since she's a teen, she shouldn't?
- Rochelle
I was going to like this for "diaperlick" but saw that I had liked it already. And, unless your driveway doesn't look like a driveway, there is no excuse for blocking it. It *might* have put a damper on the girl's day, but hopefully she learns from it and doesn't repeat the mistake. I used to get my driveway in SF blocked all the time by a woman who didn't think she should have to walk more than a few feet to her front door. I was perversely satisfied the day the tow truck got to her car before she did!
- vicster
I don't think Holden is saying she shouldn't get a ticket... he's just saying it's a crappy situation if it was indeed unintentional.
- Ryan Christensen
I called the secuirty firm for my apt complex everytime someone parked in my stall until I moved into a garage. They tow! Now those people learn not to park there!
- Liana Shanes
She comes here all the time. She knows where the driveways are. In fact, we've seen her park like a jackass before, blocking people in, parking in the middle of the road, etc.
- Akiva Moskovitz
There are some rare rare cases where it's not easy to tell one is in front of driveway. Particularly badly graded sidewalks/driveways, for instance. But the vast majority of driveways are obvious. Anyone who parks in front of one and doesn't notice they're doing so is probably unsafe to be licensed to drive at all if they're that clueless. If they *did* notice and thought "I'll only be a minute", they have no one to blame but themselves. Selfish shit like that is rampant and wrong.
- Spidra Webster
Yes Holden - When I was a lad I grasped at silly and insane to stick up for girls too. You're thinking with your wrong brain.
- Matthew DeVries
they have to learn ........what if you have to get out in a hurry
- VAL D.
Someone blocked me in once. I made a mental note...and let the air out of their tires. Hood -->
- Derrick
Well, there's still a chance for her to get away with this. The cops haven't shown up yet so if she comes out and moves her car before they get here, she'll avoid a ticket. Maybe you can text her, Holden, and tell her to move.
- Rochelle
Punishment is part of the learning experience, Holden. Anyone who doesn't notice there's a driveway around when the driveway is pretty clearly marked will pay more attention next time if they had to pay a ticket and/or get their car out of impound.
- Spidra Webster
Also, my car is clearly parked in the driveway. It's not like it's obscured by a hedge or an Einstein-Rosen Bridge or anything.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Derrick, I wanted so often to do something but in my neighborhood, they would escalate and it would get REALLY ugly.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra, consider my experience one in which you've lived vicariously. And looking at this thread, I officially feel old.
- Derrick
Well, maybe she'll learn a lesson and she won't have to be bummed again for being such a clueless cockfoam. Because clearly being bummed about something is an incredible ordeal.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Ooooooo, burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn, Holden! Dude, you TOTALLY just taught me a lesson!!!!!!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Experience and guile will alway triumph over youth and exuberance.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Holden, don't you know that girls aren't supposed to drive to begin with?!
- Rochelle
I am quite possibly laughing my ass off. If I don't lose at least three pounds after this, I want to lodge a formal complaint.
- PENGUIN: MAJOR CAPS LOCK
It can suck to get ticketed when you've made a dumb (innocent) mistake. Especially when you're pretty broke. So being bummed can be an ordeal. But it doesn't mean it wasn't something someone brought on themselves and thus deserved.
- Spidra Webster
I don't think anybody has said it isn't/wasn't deserved...
- Ryan Christensen
Holden, I have a feeling that if Audrey does something like that, Akiva and Rochelle will support her but expect that she learned an important (if not expensive) lesson.
- vicster
What Penguin said, and yes, Ryan, air. out. the. tires.
- Derrick
Nice come back Holden. At some point, just walk away. You have already said like 500 times that you understand how how she feels. THE ENTIRE INTERNET GETS IT. You are super sensitive to the feelings of ladies. Jesus.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Holden, you're projecting/assuming that it will be a bummer for her...it could be she just shrugs it off.
- vicster
i do it all the time. I use to stick stickers all over my neighbors car for parking in a red zone.
- @CrystalinaB
Sorry I was trying to figure out how this got 55 comments between the time I liked it and 15 minutes later
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I'd call if someone was blocking my drive way. I've had people call on me too, when I was younger. Can't say that I blame them. Sometimes the only way people will learn courtesy is through the efforts of the "grumpy old lady".
- Helen Sventitsky
You guys, it's one thing to have a disagreement, but I think you're really jumping on Holden here in a way that's out-of-proportion to what he's said on the thread. No need to gang up on him, whether you think the empathy is a bit misplaced or not.
- Spidra Webster
Do you think it's appropriate to try to wish shit on a baby? I think it's pathetic and weird.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I had just read this and I'm disappointed by the direction this thread went. I agree with Spidra, actually. Flame me and mock me for it all you want.
- joey
Hold on, I'll pass around the tissues so everyone can cry over this.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Reading it after Holden's comments are gone is completely different.
- Rochelle
I'm very disappointed in the behavior of all of you. Tsk tsk. Now a valued member of the community has quit. I don't know how you're going to be able to sleep tonight. You're all terrible people, and I hope some day that people on the internet disagree with you and force you to delete your FF account. GOOD DAY SIR.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
It's because I used the word 'diaperlick', isn't it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I read it with the comments, I just didn't feel that I had anything constructive to say and I was kind of shocked at the instant pile-on.
- joey
Well, I am sorry if Holden deleted his FF account. But, yeah, he was projecting. He can't possibly know how the teenage girl will react to having the cops called and/or getting a ticket. It was a bummer when it happened to him, but maybe this girl has a different view on life.
- vicster
It's really unfortunate that deleting your account on FF removes all traces that you were ever here. No matter how it happens or why, it is a shame to lose everything that a person has contributed to the community.
- Kenton
Hey, I don't think anyone wanted old boy to delete his account. I can't speak for the others in this ruthless, barbaric mob but I wasn't taking much of it seriously and was just having a laugh, really. He had a choice: he could've just walked away from the thread.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Wait... Holden deleted his account?? Because of THIS? Where's Louis...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm kind of torn. On one hand, I hate it when people delete their accounts. On the other had, I blocked him so long ago I've forgotten what he looked like.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
Well, the girl moved her car before the cops came so the girl won. Everyone can calm down now.
- Rochelle
Screw you guys. I'm going home. /Cartman
- Morgan Haley
When I quit, it is going to be the silliest EVAR. When Bren posts a photo saying Hi, Friendfeed, I'm totally gonna delete my account!!!!!```12!!!!2!`1
- Josh Haley
I'm going to set several people on fire on my way out. Probably I would not come to sxsw next year.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
I will never understand the quitters. If you don't like the way a discussion is going, let it go. And if you care so much what a bunch of people on the Internet have to say, good luck in the "real world," where you can't always just walk away from a beatdown.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
I'm still waiting for my first beatdown. 3 months in, and nothing but fuzzy-love... *sighs* I'm so privileged.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
Brent: you get what you give. If you pick fights with known beatdown artists like Akiva, you're going to get a beatdown. Whether you can handle it or not should determine how you proceed.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
Bren: good to know. fact is, I'm with Spidra, Joey and the others... life's too short for this kind of thing. I prefer to give respect, or try to... now, how are you going to proceed?
- T. Brent, technopeasant
I'm going to issue a beatdown! Ha. Not really. I agree with you all, except that I don't think Akiva or anyone else should have to edit themselves for the sake of someone who is clearly too sensitive, and not smart enough to just walk away from fights in this kind if forum. I tend to think the responsibility for controlling what we are exposed to online is our own, not the people with whom we interact.
- Bren, Photophobe
from iPhone
He'll learn... I hope. I've spent much of my adult life taking sensitive young men, putting them in kilts and helping them to be... sensitive young men in kilts. lol
- T. Brent, technopeasant
How fucking classic is this. Rochelle "don't mock my scantron post" and her chubby annoying husband once again assing out. Akiva - you are a little prick, Rochelle - I don't know what scares me more, your mouth or your avatar. Here's to not editing ourselves. ;)
- Joe
Aww, Joe! You try so, so hard. It's endearing! Keep up the good work, lil champ! We're rootin' for ya!
- Akiva Moskovitz
How come assholes with private feeds that I ironically request permission to read the feeds of never ever ever grant me permission?
- Matthew DeVries
You know, I may be an asshole sometimes but at least I'm not a coward.
- Akiva Moskovitz
That is right Akiva, just because you have no balls does not make you a coward.
- Joe
Wow, someone has a hardon for Akiva. Replying to his posts literally 8 seconds later. He's watching your feed like hawk, probably has text messages and lights flashing and triple redundant fail safes to let him know the second you post.
- Matthew DeVries
Joe, just because other people have acted rudely doesn't mean that there is now an open invitation on FF to troll and taunt people. I didn't think it was possible for this thread to be more of a disaster, but I guess I forgot the rules of the Internet.
- joey
Okay. At first I wondered if he was just joking with you. But I guess not.
- Sarah June
Nah, the guy has more issues than a comic store.
- Akiva Moskovitz
BTW welcome to my feed Sarah. As you can see it is full of issues.
- Joe
Joe is and has been a troll. The actions of people in this thread did not activate this behavior in him and he doesn't need encouragement.
- Andrizzle Gizzle