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Neil Saunders
GWIDD: Genome-wide protein docking database - http://www.citeulike.org/user...
Nucl. Acids Res. (9 November 2009), gkp944. Structural information on interacting proteins is important for understanding life processes at the molecular level. Genome-wide docking database is an integrated resource for structural studies of protein-protein interactions on the genome scale, which combines the available experimental data with models obtained by docking techniques. Current database version (August 2009) contains 25 559 experimental and modeled 3D structures for 771 organisms spanned over the entire universe of life from viruses to humans. Data are organized in a relational database with user-friendly search interface allowing exploration of the database content by a number of parameters. Search results can be interactively previewed and downloaded as PDB-formatted files, along with the information relevant to the specified interactions. The resource is freely available at http://gwidd.bioinformatics.ku.edu. 10.1093/nar/gkp944 Petras Kundrotas, Zhengwei Zhu, Ilya Vakser - Neil Saunders
Neil Saunders
STITCH 2: an interaction network database for small molecules and proteins - http://www.citeulike.org/user...
Nucl. Acids Res. (6 November 2009), gkp937. Over the last years, the publicly available knowledge on interactions between small molecules and proteins has been steadily increasing. To create a network of interactions, STITCH aims to integrate the data dispersed over the literature and various databases of biological pathways, drug-target relationships and binding affinities. In STITCH 2, the number of relevant interactions is increased by incorporation of BindingDB, PharmGKB and the Comparative Toxicogenomics Database. The resulting network can be explored interactively or used as the basis for large-scale analyses. To facilitate links to other chemical databases, we adopt InChIKeys that allow identification of chemicals with a short, checksum-like string. STITCH 2.0 connects proteins from 630 organisms to over 74 000 different chemicals, including 2200 drugs. STITCH can be accessed at http://stitch.embl.de/. 10.1093/nar/gkp937 Michael Kuhn, Damian Szklarczyk, Andrea Franceschini,... - Neil Saunders
I didn't expect the paper to come out this quickly, I was quite surprised to see it in my feed reader on the weekend. I have now activated STITCH 2 as public website ... hope it's not too buggy :) - Michael Kuhn
this looks like it could be quite useful for our cheminfo retrieval class - I added it to our resources and will let you know if any students make use of it for their term projects http://getcheminfo.wikispaces.com/resourc... - Jean-Claude Bradley
umm .. you are going to make me re-do some work :p - Pedro Beltrao
@Michael - quick questions: I don't think I ever saw homology evidences in the drug-gene interactions. Do you guys avoid doing this or it is just not reported in the evidence info ? - Pedro Beltrao
Congrats Michael! - Ruchira S. Datta
@Pedro: going from STITCH 1 to 2 will change the identifiers of proteins and chemicals, so check first if you run into trouble there - Michael Kuhn
re transfer: if you are in human or mouse, you probably won't see so much transfer. but if you go to e.g. chimp, you'll see a lot of transferred evidence - Michael Kuhn
Lars Juhl Jensen
Predicting new molecular targets for known drugs - http://www.nature.com/nature...
The title is a bit generic, isn't this what Phil Bourne's been doing? - Ruchira S. Datta
I think this is an extension of their (Kieser et al) previous work with SEA - Rajarshi Guha
Nature has a story on this in their news section: http://www.nature.com/news... - Michael Kuhn
Is this using Lasso or similar program? Interesting appearance of DMT as a molecule of interest - I have a student doing a report on it this term http://getcheminfo.wikispaces.com/Adam+My... - Jean-Claude Bradley
Thanks Rajarshi - looks like another cool online resource to explore - Jean-Claude Bradley
That's cool. How likely is the top match to be a real inhibitor? - Andrew Lang
We're trying to run our virtual library of Ugi products we can make in my lab http://usefulchem.wikispaces.com/UClib00... I hope that isn't too large a task - Jean-Claude Bradley
We did some of this validated cross-target prediction also http://www.nature.com/doifind... - Matthew Todd
That's awesome Mat! What would be the next step to processing our Ugi product library on the TDI kernel? - Jean-Claude Bradley
Michael Kuhn
Must not optimize Python scripts that already just take 1 sec (and which I'll run only 10 times). Must not optimize Python scripts that ...
Chris Luckhardt
Kevin Emamy
Early data from citeulike's automated article recommender http://blog.citeulike.org/...
"It’s really gratifying to see the social discovery of science generated by the simple act of keeping your references public on a Web page." - Duncan Hull
Neil Swainston
We are the Robots. A first attempt at a proteomics robot for Google Wave. http://neilswainston.blogspot.com/2009...
Replied on the blog but will try to give this a go ASAP...but probably not today... - Cameron Neylon
Hi Cameron. Can't make your Hackfest, I'm afraid, although I'd love to attend virtually if possible... - Neil Swainston
Cool - will keep you in the loop as to the mechanics of that. Need to find fifteen minutes to think the best approach through. - Cameron Neylon
hey neil, looks good - Duncan Hull
Cheers, Duncan. Are you one of the cool kids with a Wave account? If so, does it work?!? - Neil Swainston
Hi all those who liked. Did anyone try it in a Wave? Does it work? Thanks in advance for any help / feedback. - Neil Swainston
Arrggh. Sorry, yes we tried and it seems to be broken. This probably just requires a few cycles of deploy and test but I'm not really in a position to do that this week. Maybe next week? - Cameron Neylon
Thanks, Cameron. I'll keep prodding semi-interested parties. Can I also please reiterate my plea for an invite if any are lying around - the deploy and test cycles should be reduced if I can do the testing myself! Thanks. - Neil Swainston
Neil, I have invites. If you have a GMail address, DM it to me, or else I'll use your Manchester one. - Neil Saunders
Did we get Neil Swainston in in the end? - Cameron Neylon
Neil Saunders has put me down for one. Just waiting for Mr Google to put it in the envelope and post it. - Neil Swainston
Cool, good to know. We'll see you on the inside then - Cameron Neylon from twhirl
*pokes google* - OpenSci Info from IM
Thanks to Neil. I've got my account, and - would you believe it - the robot was kaputt. Amongst other things, Waves and Applets are not immediately happy bed-fellows... As I expected, I guess. Hmm... - Neil Swainston
Neil, we can probably make some time to do some trouble shooting and testing in Wave this week perhaps? There are lots of little gotchas that are reasonably easily fixed. - Cameron Neylon
Thanks Cameron. That would be very much appreciated. I made a fair bit of progress yesterday - it's a case of sticking applets within Gadgets. It now pretty much works. However, the applets periodically, and mysteriously, disappear. Any debugging tips from anyone?!? - Neil Swainston
Noah Gray
*Cell* wonders out loud... Scientists, Should You Be Tweeting? - http://www.cell.com/fulltex...
*Cell* wonders out loud... Scientists, Should You Be Tweeting?
With mentions of @phylogenomics, @girlscientist, @sciencebase and @dgmacarthur - Noah Gray from Bookmarklet
I really hope David Crotty tells us his opinion on this. - Mr. Gunn
*snerk* - D0r0th34
*fluff* - Graham Steel
too bad they did not mention friendfeed - Pedro Beltrao
You mean Facefeed, don't you? - Noah Gray
Mr Gunn wins the thread. - Bill Hooker
He's written about social networks, anyway, http://www.cshblogs.org/cshprot... - Maxine
Yes, Maxine, he certainly has. He didn't link to the earlier posts, but he used to be quite firmly in the "blogging is a waste of time, now get back to the bench" camp. - Mr. Gunn
Lars Juhl Jensen
$5,000 Open Access fee in Nature Communications, and even then you can only choose between CC-BY-NC-ND and CC-BY-NC-SA?!
it's either a huge increase or huge decrease in the open access fee for nature publishing, depending if you consider their old price to be infinity or zero :D - Mike Chelen
Attila Csordas
RT or not RT problem:code needed that computes whether it is worth RTing a link, criterion say: if >50% of followers got it then don't RT it
See, this is one of the reasons I like FriendFeed so much. The "like" does so well what the "re-tweet" does so poorly. - Chris Lasher
Rafael Sidi
what type of APIs would you need from scientific publishers if you needed to develop applications?
A clean restful API with reasonable limits. Don't make it too opaque and restrictive - Deepak Singh
RESTful. As complete as possible in terms of query methods and data returned. Works with all commonly-used languages (easy if RESTful and returns XML/JSON). Something like NCBI EUtils, but without the weird query key stuff. Basically, return IDs from keyword search, allow document retrieval via those IDs. - Neil Saunders
make every page available with .json extension! - Ilya Grigorik
Ones that don't cost hobby developers and startups $0.05/API call (looking askance at you, Wolfram!) - Mr. Gunn
I'm sick of RESFUL interfaces. As Richard Akermann mentioned some time ago, a proliferation of APIs at the end of the day doesn't actually help, as you have the learning curve to get over each time you want to hook up a new API. I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that sticking your data into a RDF or pseudo-RDF store and plopping a SPARQL endpoint on it is the answer. OK, so SPARQL is... more... - Ian Mulvany
Depends on the kind of application, right? RDF is good for making datasets available but you can't parse it easily with Javascript, or fetch it cross domain, hook it up to other stuff with Yahoo! Pipes, give people one line usage examples with cURL etc. etc. I reckon REST and JSON is the way to go if you want to encourage mashups. Also, no signed requests. :) In terms of content whatever is exposed via the website should be exposed via the API. - Euan
Thanks fir the mention Ian. What I said more recently in my Access 2009 presentation is we should be mindful of our objectives when assessing API vs. data-level access. API gives more control for the provider, but may limit the scope of the applications that the provider can get from developers. Raw data gives developers much more freedom, but may create management issues as implementations proliferate. - Richard Akerman from BuddyFeed
Clear licensing information would be a big plus as well. If it is tied down or limited use that really needs to be clear. Obviously I have an ulterior motive here because if its made clear then less people will probably use it :-) - Cameron Neylon
Hi everyone, I'm a Product Manager that works for Rafael. Curious to hear your thoughts on if you have a search and query API for our SD or Scopus content, what is a max number of results you'd like to receive to build a good app? Are there any APIs from our content you'd really like? - Michelle Lee
Nir London
Dynamic interactions of proteins in complex networks: a more structured view. - http://rosettadesigngroup.com/blog...
Thomas Lemberger
'Edgetic' perturbation of a C. elegans BCL2 ortholog - http://www.nature.com/nmeth...
Hilary
Endowment losses lead Stanford University to close its 58,500-volume physics library: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps...
The university has also dismissed 3.2% of its non-faculty workers. The value of the endowment dropped 27% in the fiscal year ending Aug 31. - Hilary
'Stanford will save “hundreds of thousands of dollars annually” by closing its physics library, said Michael A. Keller, the university librarian. That facility, one of 21 Stanford libraries, was chosen because most physics literature is available electronically, Keller said.' // Never thought about it this way before, but it makes sense. I guess centralized eprint repositories are not only "competing" with publishers, but also libraries? - Wobbler
Absolutely. We have scientists of varying stripes here who proudly boast how little they use the (physical) library. However, the closing of small branch/departmental libraries is soon to be a nationwide trend, and not just in the hard sciences. Babysitting underused public spaces is just not the best use of librarian time or library resources these days. - D0r0th34
Though the volume count is a bit of a red herring. Other than weeding, these books aren't going to be thrown out; they'll be consolidated with another collection. - D0r0th34
Much as I'm a print person, what Dorothea sez: Smaller branches have been problematic for big academic libraries for a long time; they're expensive to run relative to value add. In disciplines where almost all the literature is electronic, it's hard to argue for maintaining the physical space *as a library.* (My alma mater, Berkeley, was consolidating smaller branches even when I was... more... - Walt Crawford
But won't this make the whole "institutional repositories + some kind of open protocol like OAI-PMH = OA win" a bit harder to realize? - Wobbler
Er, it was ever easy? Besides, with any luck at ALL some of that librarian energy that isn't going into keeping the lights on might head for IRs or OA. (Yes, I'm dreaming.) - D0r0th34
Hold on a second. I think I went on the wrong path somewhere. When Stanford says 'most physics literature is available electronically', did they mean arXiv or their own institutional repository? If it's the latter, then I confused "print versus digital" with "institutional versus disciplinary/centralized". And if that is the case, I guess it's not that big of a deal? - Wobbler
They meant the formal published literature (bought by the library, of course, but not housed in a physical space) as well as arXiv and other OA resources, I suspect. As a rule, most faculty have absolutely no idea where a paper they're reading came from or who paid for it. - D0r0th34
I see, OK thanks for clarifying that. That still means Open Access = everything digital = a bit of a problem for (some) librarians? Weird how I never considered that perspective before. I wonder how they (will) adapt to the increasing popularity/significance of OA and search engines for those OA sources? Other than being let go, of course. - Wobbler
This information still doesn't organize, preserve, find, or evaluate itself. :) I'm thinking we'll have jobs for a good long while yet... - D0r0th34
I see. Alright then :) Not sure if you've answered this before D0r0th34 (and if you did, I apologize for bringing it up again), but are you more for the "institutional repository + open protocol" route to OA or the "disciplinary/centralized repository" one? - Wobbler
I don't care. OA is OA. Whatever works. Disciplinary is easier to sell to researchers, so fine by me. I'm still not out of a job -- remember that arXiv is run by Cornell University *Libraries*. - D0r0th34
I see. K thanks :) - Wobbler
Any time. The danger in disciplinary repos, of course, is sustainability. If a disciplinary repo doesn't find an institution to be its sugar daddy, it may fold. (Google "Mana'o repository" to see what I'm talking about.) There's also some free riding going on in the library community -- many aren't ready to support OA with additional budget and staff resources at this juncture. I think that will change (I think it has to!) but faculty are still the prime movers. - D0r0th34
It has also been a few years since I stepped into a library .. I don't even know where the UCSF library is. I am guessing that a lot of libraries already do this but given the shift to online shouldn't the role of the libraries include helping people find what they need using current tools. Ex - setting up automatic queries, getting suggestions on what to read via online bookmarking... more... - Pedro Beltrao
Yes, we do that. Quite a bit. :) - D0r0th34
A Roy
Bosco Ho
The bioinformatic-journal/software hydrid - http://boscoh.com/protein...
Yes, yes. Very much like. - Neil Saunders
Bosco, this is a superb idea. Along with starting up a new journal/software hybrid, it will be great if existing journals insist users to submit source code, executable or VM of a bioinformatics software / database / server to a centralized repository like 'biohub.org'. - Khader Shameer
This is a good idea. - Michael Barton
While not linked to an actual repository (but rather, provides a snapshot of the s/w and data for the article), Journal of Statistical Software, does pretty much this - Rajarshi Guha
I would take this further and the article text remains in the revision repo. The reviewers are sent to the article, not the other way around and it can be forked in just the same way the software can - Frank from iPhone
@Frank, this makes sense, since otherwise the paper would be static and refer to old versions. But then this assumes that as the s/w is updated, so is the paper - Rajarshi Guha
@Rajarshi not neccessarily the paper should state which version/revision it refers to. It does not have to keep up with the sw. That is what documentation is for :) - Frank from iPhone
me likey too - Deepak Singh
The more I think about it, the more I think some big-wig bioinformaticians should do a deal with Google Code to edit a journal. That might even align with Google Scholar. - Bosco Ho
@Frank, in that case, why bother with a VCS? Why not just put a tarball with the source code for the version that goes with the paper? - Rajarshi Guha
Great idea, but I can't see it working for data sets. Yes data sets evolve and should track provenance somehow, but having been in and around standards groups for some time now, this is an impossible task for a publishing group to take care of, especially considering the nature of big-data bioinformatics. Plus if goes against best practices for software source control (use factories, don't store your database...) - delagoya
There are some interesting and non-trivial questions around this kind of idea as to what peer review should look like. Should such a journal provide virtualisation environments so that the code can be run? Example data should be a requirement presumably? Are peer reviewers expected to evaluate code "quality". Anyone thoughts on this would be extremely useful...and help guide a project like this into reality. - Cameron Neylon
My answers to Cameron's points: (1) no, (2) yes, sample data would probably be used to run tests which should pass, (3) quality is somewhat subjective - minimum requirement should be that code runs and generates output as expected - but reviewers could certainly suggest code improvement where appropriate. - Neil Saunders
So if the answer to 1) is no, does that mean that you can't necessarily expect referees to actually run the code? Or compile it? Or just that you pick referees appropriately? Or conversely that "refereeing" becomes a process of building up enough positive comments or karma points in the repository...? It seems to me that you want to bring the best of versioning systems and best practice... more... - Cameron Neylon
Referees should certainly be able to run code - I'm just not sure that virtualisation through the web interface is the way to do it. Seems like an additional layer of complexity that might get in the way of making this idea work. - Neil Saunders
@Cameron & Neil: If it could be figured out how to to handle the virtualization (or having remote access to machines), I think that'd be a highly valuable addition to peer review. Easy for me to say (not knowing how to implement it), but I think it's a great goal to strive for. It doesn't seem too crazy to have the journal have a bunch of machines on hand so the authors can remotely upload / install code and referees could then remotely log in to look at and try out code. - Steve Koch
I can't figure out where to jump into this thread. Personally, I think we just need a place to publish locations, i.e. the code is here, data is there and this is the version we used, etc. That must be maintained and being able to maintain that should become part of the funding process. Since funding agencies are the ones who are funding this research they need to include the ability to... more... - Deepak Singh
My feeling is that being able to run the programs somewhere on a server without downloading them is important - but that is very much a user's perspective. I often look at useful things that are made available and just have no clue how to actually make them work. A good range of downloadable executables would probably do the job for me though. Additional question: what are the standards for web services? - Cameron Neylon
Which is why VM's and cloud services are such a big deal for demo's and provenance now. You can package up a VM with the exact stack that you want and make it available, either as a service or a VM you can launch yourself. It's too easy not to do it - Deepak Singh
@Deepak : Cloud + VM is an an interesting combination, but should have an accessible pricing that is affordable to a larger research community - Khader Shameer
I think there should be strict guidelines while reviewing bioinformatics software / database / servers to test the resource. I had a recent experience : a reviewer wrote extensive list of points to reject a server that we developed with out trying what exactly it is doing or to know how does it differs from other existing resources. I strongly support the hybrid journal model, also it... more... - Khader Shameer
Let's talk specifics. VM images are great, but you are tying your release to a particular release of a particular platform. A better approach is to start from a base OS (like a linus distro ISO) and have a set of build instructions for system set up and application building. My favorite of the moment would be Chef. - delagoya
Second, academics love to solve a problem with a novel algorithm and then move on. In fact it is in their best interest to move on after milking a project for all it's worth, publication wise. Maintenance, or even robust testing (couch... Tophat ... cough ... Bowtie .. cough ) is not even on the radar. Frankly I am not so sure it should be. Maintenance requirements may slow the pace of... more... - delagoya
@delagoya, good point. If I have made significant improvements, why update the old paper? better to try for a new paper! - Rajarshi Guha
delagoya, chef's fine too. Find a common medium/mechanism that works for the community. The resources are certainly there. It's a matter of trying things out. As someone I know says, start simple, and iterate - Deepak Singh
Khader, that's where the funding agencies come in. They need to provide mechanisms for sustainable funding here. - Deepak Singh
The nice thing about a hybrid journal is that it might be possible to have new dois/database entries for "significant" updates. Not perhaps just place holding papers as is the case sometimes in the NAR database issue but when something has changed significantly you can get a new paper without needing a new algorithm or service. I like the idea of funding to support "orphan" code and services as well. Make it worth money and people will do it. - Cameron Neylon
Delagoya - as a naive user I disagree. I really don't want to have to build, I want to use in the lowest stress way possible and a hosted VM seems like a good way to enable that - as well as allow for longer term preservation. We may not be able to run linux on future hardware but will probably be able to handle VMs for longer (actually having written that I'm not sure its true - would be interested in more expert perspectives) - Cameron Neylon
I almost missed this discussion. I really like the idea but I wonder how discovery type projects fit in. I mostly use code to look for trends. If anything I might make some predictor to enhance existing data. For these reasons most of what I do is one off scripts around perl and R. Maybe this sort of project does not belong in a bioinformatics journal at all. - Pedro Beltrao
Pedro, great question. Personally, if we included all glue code, small scripts, etc this would be unsustainable and defeat the purpose of peer review as well - Deepak Singh
@Pedro, I don't see a journal/software hybrid as replacing all bioinformatics journals. I think there's a place for journals that discuss pure algorithms and ideas. These would do exploratory type programming. Normal journals service these papers quite well. For me, a hybrid model targets specifically those papers that describe a program that is meant to be used by other people. In that... more... - Bosco Ho
Bosco, you're thinking along the lines of a communications journal aren't you. And then people can go to work on the code if it is on github or something - Deepak Singh
@Deepak. Yep. The disconnect I see is that pragmatically, it's the open-source project that counts. The article in the bioinformatics journal is so that we can get a place-holder to collect citations that contribute to our academic CV. The journal/software hybrid provides the most efficient way to this goal. - Bosco Ho
Very nicely summary of the problem. Really, the whole concept of a journal article about software is stupid. What does an academic article do? Alert people to a new finding/discovery. But in the case of software - well, the software is the finding. And people are "alerted" by finding it on the web, downloading it and using it. As Bosco says, the sole role of an article here is a CV tick - hence the hybrid approach. Non-academic programmers must find all of this very odd. - Neil Saunders
Bret Taylor
Which Religion Should I Follow? - http://friendlyatheist.com/2009...
Hopefully nobody takes this too seriously - as it's offensive. - Louis Gray
Romans 14:11 - Randy Pollock
I can see some Hindu's having issues with this. I know many who prefer Chinese takeout - Deepak Singh
Turns out I'm of the Mayan persuasion. Who knew? - AJCann
Atheism as a religion ? - Ozgur Demir
Louis: the important part of religious humor is that it is equally offensive to all religions ;) - Bret Taylor
I agree with Louis (and have been cringing every time I see this shared) - Jesse Stay
Bret, that's understood. Jokes are jokes, but some religions fare worse in this one, and rely on old stereotypes/falsehoods that should go away. - Louis Gray
ow funny. Randy: myth - Christopher Galtenberg
But what if you like hummus, bacon, and want to be reincarnated? :) - Cristo
Like, on Twitter? - Steve Lynch from twhirl
There's got to be a joke about the social media term of "followers" here, somewhere. - Steve Lynch from twhirl
Duncan Hull
Wellcome to the Genome Campus « O'Really? - http://duncan.hull.name/2009...
Wellcome to the Genome Campus « O'Really?
"So, I’ve just started a new job and moved home. There is loads to blog about but little time to do it. Before it’s too late, here are some first week impressions from a newbie starter at the European Bioinformatics Institute (EBI) on the Wellcome Trust Genome Campus. The Genome Campus owes its existence to the pharmacist Henry Wellcome, pictured over on the left. When he died in 1936, his legacy founded the Wellcome Trust, set up with money from his success as a pharmaceutical manufacturer and salesman. Today, the trust is the largest charity in the UK, funding innovative biomedical research and spending over £600 million each year. A large part of this legacy is being (and has been) spent on the Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, home to the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute (WTSI) (aka “The Sanger”) and the European Bioinformatics Institute (EBI) an outstation of the European Molecular Biology Laboratory (EMBL) based in Hinxton, Cambridgeshire. Cambridgeshire life: Good and Bad It’s a bit... more... - Duncan Hull from Bookmarklet
I look forward to pictures of the long silken moustache. - Bill Hooker
congrats for your new job - Pierre Lindenbaum
Congrats - I spent 6 1/2 years at the EBI, and it was one of the most rewarding work experiences I've had. By the way, it's not just the Red Lion that's there - you can also go to the Red Lion. Or the Red Lion. Yes, the 3 closest pubs are all called the Red Lion :) As for norman-no-mates, just go to Burns Night run by the sports & social club in Jan - that'll sort you out. Lots of perks, but right in the middle of lots of countryside (not even a post office!) - that's EBI for you :) Have fun! - Allyson Lister
Congratulations, we should meet up for a pint - Frank
@Bill I'm working on the moustache, I may be some time though @Pierre thanks @Ally cheers (lets go the the Red Lion next time you're here) @Frank I'm all ready and primed for beer - Duncan Hull
you do realise will will hold you to the moustache. I knew you could not go to long withough copious amounts of hair in and around your head :) - Frank
I'm sure you'll enjoy it - I spent ten years at Sanger in various groups - on the whole it's a pleasant, talented community to be a part of - Roger Pettett from twhirl
Good luck. I have to ask though, which bit of Manchester am I missing which is cheap? :P - Michael Barton
@Michael prices are all relative of course, I'm thinking mostly of the cost of renting and the cost of buying a house, both of which are considerably better value for money in Manchester than Cambridge IMHO. Food, beer and other essentials probably aren't that different pricewise. - Duncan Hull
@Frank will a comedy fake 'tache do or does it have to be a real one? Facial hair is not my strong point :-) - Duncan Hull
Congratulations on the new job, dullhunk. I'll maybe stop by and visit you the next time I'm there - we have collaborators on the Hinxton campus I come down on the train (or drive) every now and then. And I do have on my long-term agenda to at some stage work at @EBI/Sanger, for the experience as Allyson said. - 'Mummi' Thorisson
@Mummi thanks, you're welcome to come and drop by... - Duncan Hull
It is a different culture, there's good stuff about cambridge. come and say hi at some point Helen - Helen Parkinson from email
@Helen oh yes, I'll come by and pester you :-) - Duncan Hull
Slighty late but good luck on you new endeavours @dullhunk. WRT el silken moustache, if you kept your locks after they were chopped off, you would be able to produce one hell of a false moustache and just in time for http://uk.movember.com/ ;-) - Graham Steel
@Graham great idea, I'll just have to grow one instead. Are you participating in movember? - Duncan Hull
Duncan, I wish you a great start in Hinxton. - Martin Fenner
@Duncan, I've been off this week so as usual, no shaving. As such, and since my 'tash growing prowess is not brill, tempted to miss that bit out b4 I go back to work on Monday. - Graham Steel
Continued....Hmm. I wonder if a goatee beard (bristles not shown) counts for Movember? Fav comment from folks at work today was "Mr Steel, what is that thing on your face?" You up for a Movember challenge, my good fellow ?? - Graham Steel
Michael Kuhn
just noticed that we're getting fairly close to PMID 2,000,000, we should hit it before the end of the year. Also: six-digit PMID look ooold
Maxine
Second pillar of excellence will give Russia a chance to regain scientific stature Nature Editorial this week http://www.nature.com/nature...
Darren Wilkinson
Scientists are all about doing new things but actually we're very conservative about the way that we do them," said Cameron Neylon - Frank
BBC: British Broadcasting Cameron (neylon) - Duncan Hull
Nir London
What is your favorite molecular viewer ? - http://rosettadesigngroup.com/blog...
Jmol (the applet, application, and embedded in Bioclipse) - Egon Willighagen
Pymol - Rajarshi Guha
Pymol, especially back when I needed to use viewers a lot. VMD is the one I have used the most - Deepak Singh
uh, no other commercial tools ? Anyway, from this list ... Pymol - joergkurtwegner
@joerg - I tried to keep it to freeware, but if you know a really good commercial one please add it in the comments - Nir London
Nir, please let use know what feature you like to see or think are missing. - Egon Willighagen
By "we" you mean Jmol - right ? I always wanted keyboard shortcuts for Jmol applets, the kind you have in Google Reader, I think I read a post about this a couple of weeks ago, I'll try to find it. Right now that's what bothers me most in Jmol - Nir London
TwistyMol. Also see Avogadro. - Noel O'Boyle
pymol or rasmol are my *favorites* although jmol has a dear place for being a web-based utility - Mike Chelen
Michael Nielsen
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain this to you [dive into mark] - http://diveintomark.org/archive...
Mark Pilgrim's excellent book "Dive Into Python" was republished on Amazon.com, under the terms of his GNU Free Documentation License. This is driving his publisher nuts. I'm surprised it doesn't happen more - why aren't books by Doctorow, Lessig et al immediately republished by other publishers? - Michael Nielsen
I wonder if we'll see more prominent examples of this. A plausible story to follow: some publishers will refuse to publish under CC (or GFDL) licenses, prominent authors like Doctorow, Lessig, Benkler et al will move to self-publishing, and services like Lulu might be off to the races. - Michael Nielsen
How much more prominent than Lessig and Doctorow were you thinking exactly? - D0r0th34
"more" as in "other". I've never really understood why (e.g.) Doctorow's publisher goes with a CC license. Any other publisher could easily release Doctorow's work, and could underprice it, since they wouldn't be paying royalties or an advance. And legally, if the CC license stood up, they'd be completely within rights. - Michael Nielsen
Ah, gotcha. Well, I wouldn't touch Doctorow's work with a ten-foot pole, if I were a conniving publisher. 1) I'm still competing with free. 2) Doctorow would rip me up one side and down the other on BoingBoing for harming his print publisher. 3) Doctorow's fans are very engaged with him, so such a rip would very likely be bad for business. - D0r0th34
Doctorow is trying a new publishing experiment with his latest short story collection that does involve Lulu: http://www.publishersweekly.com/article... - John Dupuis
D0r0th34: Point (1) is equally true of his print publisher. As for (2) and (3), any money made here is pure gravy for such a publisher - so what if you annoy a lot of fans? Heck, you can even reduce your risk, by arranging print runs based on how well the book debuts. (I'm not advocating it, especially, I just think this is likely to happen increasingly often, because there's a lot of commercial upside, and virtually no downside that I can see, if the CC licenses hold up in court.) - Michael Nielsen
We'll see what sales end up looking like. Put it this way: "pure gravy" isn't, quite, because somebody still has to go out there and find books that can be exploited in this fashion and then typeset them (badly, admittedly; but consider a book like Pilgrim's, where bad typesetting harms meaning so much that nobody with half an ounce of sense will buy the offprint). Will there be enough gravy to cover these acquisitions costs? Honestly, I doubt it. - D0r0th34
My guess is that someone like Doctorow gets a 6 figure advance. You can buy a lot of acquisitions and typesetting for that amount of money. - Michael Nielsen
... I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt that. Doctorow's good, but he's still pretty much midlist from a mass-market publisher POV. I guess I can email and ask him. - D0r0th34
Very interesting, but I fail to understand why anyone would want to buy a paper copy of the book rather than reading online as it is completely example driven and you need to be sitting in front of a computer to run the examples. I think a simple temporary solution to "third party" publishing would be to license the electronic version under CC-ND, whilst reserving all rights for the... more... - Matt Leifer
Even if he's getting a $30k advance, the republisher is still saving a huge amount of money. - Michael Nielsen
Michael: You may be missing something about Doctorow's use of CC. He uses BY-NC-SA. If that's legally enforceable, and it probably is, he could sue any publisher who republished his material *for profit*--that's the NC clause. So, a key point is (4) There's an enormous downside if Doctorow wants to make a point (possibly with CC's support): You'd have a VERY weak legal stance. CC isn't waiving all rights, not unless it's CC0. - Walt Crawford
Walt: Thanks for pointing that out, I'd completely forgotten. I imagine Lessig et al are similar. I wonder if the NC part of CC has ever been tested? Something like this might be an interesting test case. (Especially if a not-for-profit started up that republished, but not for profit. ) - Michael Nielsen
Well, Creative Commons spent a lot of expert lawyer time making sure the CC licenses were bulletproof. I'd guess a case involving a commercial publisher republishing a BY-NC book would be a slam-dunk. A nonprofit *that was not making profits from the book*--that might be interesting. There's been a LOT of discussion, and a survey, as to what us CC users think "NC" really means. - Walt Crawford
BTW, the reason I got into asking academic publishers about this is that I am interested to know how I should license content that I am primarily intending to make available online, allowing as much freedom as possible, but that I might want to publish in print at a later date. Of course, most publishers don't have an actual policy on this and are very wary of discussing hypotheticals,... more... - Matt Leifer
Book or journal publishers, Matt? It makes a difference. - D0r0th34
Book. With journal articles it is easy because I am in math/physics and they usually have a clear policy on arXiv preprints. Also, the availability of a free online version is not strongly correlated to journal sales at the moment, whereas it would be for a book. - Matt Leifer
Okay. How important is the accumulated prestige of the publisher to you? Or is what really matters that the book be published and that you retain the rights you wish to? (I swear there is method to my madness here.) There are some full-OA uni-press-type outfits out there, but I don't know which of them do math/physics. Will research. - D0r0th34
Hm - I can't find the "republished" version of Dive into Python on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/s... - does anyone know if it was yanked or maybe published under a different title? Does the GDFL require attribution (if not, then perhaps it was published under another name)? - Hilary
@Matt: I may have misunderstood your comment above, but I don't think CC-ND prevents people from just printing the original version w/o significant alterations. The license says "The above rights may be exercised in all media and formats whether now known or hereafter devised" but that "you have no rights to make Adaptations" - an Adaptation is defined as "a form in which the Work may... more... - Hilary
Yes, you are right. I guess what we need is a license that gives the publisher exclusive rights for the print version, but applies CC-like provisions to electronic versions. I realize that this partly defeats the object of CC, but I figure that print versions will eventually become obsolete so it is only a temporary measure designed to allow academics to benefit from the prestige of an academic publisher, whilst still allowing freedom of information online. - Matt Leifer
@Matt: I really like your idea. In some sense, every open content license is transitional, pending even more openness, so I agree that such compromises can help. That's part of the genius of CC in the first place, after all. Before CC, there were very few gradations in pre-written licenses; you could go all rights reserved, BSD-style or GFDL, and that was about it. Now, you can specify if attribution is needed, if derivative and commercial uses are OK, etc., and I think we are far more open for the options. - Christopher Granade
Michael Kuhn
The Reverse Geocache Puzzle | Arduiniana - http://arduiniana.org/project...
The Reverse Geocache Puzzle | Arduiniana
The Reverse Geocache Puzzle | Arduiniana
cool idea: a wedding gift w/ built-in GPS: it'll only open at a specific location, and it only tells you the distance to wherever that is - Michael Kuhn from Bookmarklet
Genius. "At one point a friend of the family, a charming gentleman from up the street, said to me with a thick accent, “You are — how you say in English? — a BASTARD!” That one comment made this whole project worthwhile." - Bill Hooker
Mark Longair
Star Trek episodes suck if they involve (a) the holodeck (b) "The Alternate Universe" (c) the Ferengi or (d) getting stranded on a planet.
(e) technobabble! - Jan Wessnitzer
a) yes b) mostly, except for original Trek - goatee! c) yes d) depends e) yes - Richard Akerman
I like the line, "Sorry Scotty, the IEEE has revoked your membership until you learn to master WD-40." Although I think the more appropriate society might be SAE or ASME. - John Dupuis
Doesn't that include c. ~95% of the episodes ? - Ian Simpson
"Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and 'Ensign Gomez' beam down to a planet. Which one isn't coming back?" - Check out Galaxy Quest! http://www.imdb.com/title... - Jo Young
Thanks for the comments and the links :) Agreed about the goatee. I don't mind the technobabble, since it does provide some laughs and doesn't generally get in the way of the stories. (In particular I like the occasions where someone proudly explains that they used a recursive algorithm to do something -- news which is received with awe from the other characters...) - Mark Longair
Lars Juhl Jensen
Bayesian Modeling of the Yeast SH3 Domain Interactome Predicts Spatiotemporal Dynamics of Endocytosis Proteins - http://www.plosbiology.org/article...
Anders Norgaard
National Science Foundation Hires Zotero - http://www.zotero.org/blog...
Thomas Lemberger
BioBrick Public Agreement (Draft) to enable the free exchange & use of standard biological parts http://openwetware.org/wiki... via [Synthetic Biology]
Michael Kuhn
HHMI Lab Management: Making the Right Moves - http://www.hhmi.org/resourc...
"Making the Right Moves: A Practical Guide to Scientific Management for Postdocs and New Faculty" (should the time ever come) - Michael Kuhn
It is a very interesting read. I received a copy from HHMI last year. - Khader Shameer
Definitely an essential read - the questions to ask when interviewing candidates to hire is really helpful. - Jason Stajich
Thomas Lemberger
Genome evolution and adaptation in a long-term experiment with Escherichia coli - http://www.nature.com/nature...
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