James, you're comment is unsettlingly ambiguous. I'm going to assume you mean "redefining" as in "raising the standard?" Yes, I'll go with that.
- Mark J
Oh! Indeed! Raising the bar is what I mean. :-) (Thought that would be obvious. My bad.)
- Moody (Sweet FA 4 Life)
I think FF will certainly change (or, worst case, cease to exist).
- Brett Kelly
maybe FF can just be the test box and we're all beta users, then port what works over to FB ... everybody's happy? yeah, it'll never work.
- John
My guess is FF will pretty much freeze it's feature set and code base. FF engineers will start working on adding functionality to Facebook, and at some points 6-12mo from now, FF will go the way of Pownce.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think the probable outcome is the Feedburner scenario; it still works, they just stopped innovating.
- Gerardo Capetillo
when will they realize we do not necessarily want everything linked together. it is not always about trying to hide your idenity has it is just using different social media tools for different purposes.
- R. Ferguson
I think Facebook will just kill Friendfeed
- Terry Cleary
That's the spirit. I'm tired of the "when are we jumping" posts - this is the right attitude.
- Jesse Stay
That's because you're "pro-Facebook", Jesse... of course you'd be tired of the anti-Facebook backlash.
- Ken Sheppardson
I don't have a good feeling about this either. Hopefully FF and FB get better, only time will tell.
- Kolomona
Does this mean I'll have to log onto my facebook page? I've been ignoring fb since January.
- Dale
Facebook is going to just "flop" friendfeed, i can see it... but i would hate to see it end that way, friendfeed is that social networking site that really matters, and us "true" early friendfeed users will alway remember it as the best site ever!
- Bryce Campbell
Ken, I'm not just "pro-Facebook". I understand it. I know the team. I also understand FriendFeed and somewhat understand their team as well. I think I'm more qualified to say that than anyone.
- Jesse Stay
I don't see this as a good sign for FF....innovation will be geared for Facebook, FF could be a FB labs sort of thing, but it's not the same. I have yet to see mergers or acquisitions not kill off or turn whatever was eaten into a dead pile of junk. Time Warner -- AOL anyone?
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
FriendFeed will change about as much as Flickr changed after Yahoo took over.
- Gus
I think that this will end up seeing FF becoming the central feed for FB. Possibly something along the lines of the public timeline for Twitter, but with FF becoming the public timeline for FB.
- Andrew
Andrew, exactly. I think Facebook desperately needs and wants something like this. I don't expect it to go away.
- Jesse Stay
Somehow I don't believe that FriendFeed will survive this. Let's enjoy it as long as it's still around.
- Patrick Harms
Yahoo! bought Flickr and Delicious. Conde Nast bought Reddit. Those are still around and in good form. Let's hope FriendFeed gets better instead of disappearing.
- Jeff Harbert
When something that you use is bought up by a giant I think that you feel that you lose something.Looking forward to seeing the outcome.Ger
- gerald miller
I'd love to see Mike be right - FF = labs.facebook.com - Keep the innovations happening here on FF, and see those innovations find their way to the Facebook feed. While that would necessarily mean that FF innovations would have an eye towards how those would work on Facebook, really, where's the harm in that?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Given that the code of the two platforms is completely independent right now, I really can't imagine why Facebook would want to divert engineering effort to extending FF.
- Ken Sheppardson
I just don't think FB can pull it off. They have so many 'brokens' in FB all the time
- Lee Kent
Leo Good Day, Sir. I'm on here an hour and I like it, I'm a big Twitter fan. I think it's exciting personally, a lot to like and some cool features like direct ermail back to someone if you have email alerts. Facebook, seems to me, will only make it better. Cheers and thanks for all you do, I'm a fan.
- Paul Roberts
Don't you think they will change it, Leo? I'm not as excited about this as you are. I like friendfeed but I'm not much of a facebook fan. I don't know if I can learn to love it. I guess I'll try. But I don't know if it's gonna happen. I think friendfeed as we know it is no more.
- Lise
I thought "look & feel" couldn't be trademarked?
- Andrew C (✓)
from my research it appears you can, but if someone knows different - please let me know
- Zee.
I know everyone dogs mac, yet everybody company copies them.
- orionstarr
Have been in touch with CulturedCode - Makers of Things and they have confirmed they are absolutely NOT working with them and this is the first time they have come across the site.
- Zee.
Wow. That's crazy. I'm a huge fan of Things and CulturedCode. I am now definitely not a fan of this Nirvana nonsense.
- Akiva
Ah, I'm no lawyer. From brief websearching, it appears the legal line is that look and feel cannot be _copyrighted_ ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ), but trademark is something else.
- Andrew C (✓)
Didn't Gates gets his Windows idea from Jobs? I think AC is correct.
- Russellreno
Russell, nope. Both Apple and Microsoft stole their ideas from Xerox.
- Akiva
Last bit: http://answers.google.com/answers... - while 'trade dress' is a possibly viable line of IP protection (it falls under trademarks)... I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that both look so much like Apple apps - iTunes in particular - that CulturedCode might not have a whole lot of room to claim the look & feel of "Things" is _their_ trade dress.
- Andrew C (✓)
I believe that Cultured Code has a valid argument here. It's one thing to follow a standardized look-and-feel and another to go down to duplicating some of the icons used in the order in which they were used.
- Akiva
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
- Jim Hague
Maybe there is more resemblence when you use them but on a quick look it hardly seems like a ripoff! There are many applications that look very much like that - it is a logical organisation to use. If I built a GTD app, I very likely would have the menus organised in a very similar manner. The color scheme is a fairly standard set of choices. And the terminology comes out of the...
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- Iphigenie
But Joelle, honesetly i would never post something like this unless I really felt it was a complete duplicate...and in my eyes, it really is. Every single aspect from the layout, to the icons, to the colour scheme, to the terminology...
- Zee.
i know that pain, i think someone ripped off an idea of mine...
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
Good job using the word whilst thrice (!) in one post. About the similarities. I see them, but would still like the app because I run windows and always hear many good things about Things.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
So can someone enlighten me as to the difference between Bing and Live Search? Is there a difference?
- Steve Sill
Steve - There are very significant differences. Rafe (CNET) seemed to think enough to challenge Google. Not sure if I'd go that far yet. Tons of different 'takes' on TechMeMe here : http://www.techmeme.com/090528...
- Charlie Anzman
Thanks Charlie... will be interested to try hands on, but honestly not sure that it will take hold, with so many other places to find similar information already. Time will tell.
- Steve Sill
bing.bing.bing.bing. Clearly the hot button today. Your fab graphic & funny headline made sure I noticed. Thanks.
- Peggy Dolane
Tam da bu mevsimlerde Beştepe Koşuyolu'nda Çakıl'la koşarken birdenbire bir koku yakalar, sonra koştura koştura gider bir kirpi veya kaplumbağa bulur. Sonra da kendi ilgi alanına girmediği için bir iki koklar, devam eder. Kirpiler hakikaten de enteresandırlar. :) It's real: http://images.google.com.tr/images...
- SH (Siteler Hakkında)
Cute! I can just see its little feet moving.
- Rick Cogley
Wow. That elephant's hung like a horse.
- John Craft
THAT is why you always march the male ahead of the female elephants. Lesson learned I guess... I'd rather not see the shot 5 seconds later.
- Rafael Robayna
for which reasons do you want to use a desktop client? If you use an online reader, you should allways be able to access it, don't you? Doesn't a desktop client take up space on your HD (not much, granted, but still)?
- Xavier Bartholome
I rarely use the desktop client. It's good for when I am on planes.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
indeed! I forgot about that one place where you (still) don't have access to the web! ;o)
- Xavier Bartholome
That's for now. Wifi on planes is a game changer. There are lots of features I love in Google Reader. If someone adds a great iPhone client Ic an be back.
- Steve Rubel
from IM
Another advantage of a desktop client is the ability to let it save post indefinitely.
- Amit Morson
What mobile are you using? If it's iPhone, Byline is an excellent offline reader that syncs with Google Reader. It has support for landscape, noting items, disabling picture downloads, and more. been very happy with it.
- David Chartier
from BuddyFeed
I love Google Reader, just wish the apps for it on Android were more "robust"
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Gears is also an option for offline gReader. The bonus is that you get to use the same great UI both online and off.
- David Chartier
from BuddyFeed
With the most recent beta of FeedDemon synching with Google Reader it is easy to get the best of both worlds (Google Reader online + Offline desktop reader). I have found Newsgator's online service to be slow and feature poor. The Newsgator Go client for BB is very nice, though it dos not work offline.
- Sean Brady
I've just done the opposite, switched from NewsGator/FeedDemon/NetNewsWire to Google Reader - ever since the last release of Feeds for iphone. That was always the missing link for me, having a decent app that synced on the iphone to my online Mac/PC feeds. The Google Reader web page on iPhone whilst good, is no match for a proper application. On my PC/Macs though Google reader in browser is perfect for me.
- Nik Green
"Every time you find yourself saying that there must be some causal relationship between two strongly correlated variables, you should go back and look at this graph"
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Brian: in your example wouldn't lemon consumption be a third variable causing the two to be correlated? :)
- Frankie Warren
True! I forgot that lemons might be imported for purposes other than consumption. Lemon Scent Pine-Sol, perhaps.
- Brian Chang
No, you've got it backwards. The decreasing fatality rate has made it cheaper to insure truck drivers, lowering the cost of importing lemons.
- Jim Norris
On a related note, does 50 Likes on this graph mean that Bret's friend love math? Well, I guess it just means he has 11,000 followers.
- j1m
@Peng Given recent events re:pirates I've been predicting a reversal to the global warming trend.
- James Macgill
The problem with statistics - simplify enough, ignore enough variables and pick your measurements well, and you can get patterns where none exist. And it happens in policy making every month, I fear! MORE LEMONS!!!!!!!!!!
- Iphigenie
how long has classmates.com been around? I have a feeling there's more folks in my age bracket on classmates than there are on facebook. I posted a question about adding classmates.com to friendfeed the other day, although I don't know if that makes any sense from a technical point of view.
- Chuck Baggett
Offtopic. Why the hell ff shuffles posts? From the top of the page: 12 hrs ago, yesterday, 12 hrs ago, 7 hrs ago (this one), yesterday, 20 hrs ago... WTF?
- Cheba Tron
@Cheba: Short version, IIRC, a post gets "bumped" to the top of the page if one of your friends "likes" or comments on it. If you no longer want to follow a discussion, you can click "Hide."
- S of 2C
It's slightly less annoying than a captcha that shows ambiguous letters/numbers/whatevers, so that the user isn't sure whether a) he can't read, b) he just saw the wrong thing or c) he's an actual robot and thus cannot pass.
- Patrick Harms
I think the recaptcha project has just been too successful and they are running out of readable scanned bits, so the unreadable ones come up more and more often. Scan another language!!!
- Iphigenie
I could never had read that - what did the audio sound like? Usually the audio sounds like charlie browns parents on a captcha.
- Dan owns Comicsforge.com