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Mike Chelen to Mike's feed, Semantic Web, Science Semantics, Science Commons, OpenSci Info, Science 2.0
Fwd: "Wikipedia for academic research". Post a summary of your research to increase its impact. http://acawiki.org/Home (via http://friendfeed.com/plosone...)
Daniel Mietchen, metalerik, Thomas Brox Røst and 3 other people liked this
it looks like semantic mediawiki?
- Mike Chelen
Yup, it is... http://acawiki.org/Special...
- Andrew Su
ah thanks, interesting to see which extensions they are using
- Mike Chelen
Noteworthy: so far, 18 summaries of articles in PLoS Biol., 12 in PLoS Med. (None in PLoS ONE).
- Jim Till
Perhaps noteworthy: the vast majority of edits in the last thirty days are by two people. It's hard to build critical mass... http://acawiki.org/index...
- Andrew Su
the site looks pretty new, sometimes starting fresh produces the best results, although it can be useful to find some existing data to import initially
- Mike Chelen
The site launched this week. The PLoS articles were seeded using the Editor Summaries that PLoS Bio and PLoS Med routinely publish
- Peter Binfield
Peter: wondering if the data was converted from another format, or does PLoS supply RDF directly? is there any description of the process used?
- Mike Chelen
We didnt work with them on this (other than to have some early meetings). I suspect they just copied and pasted... However, it can be extracted from our XML file of course.
- Peter Binfield
Yes, it's copy and paste at present. A better workflow would be a good enhancement to Semantic MediaWiki if anybody's looking for a project!
- Jodi Schneider
here is a guide to import data (TSV, tab separated values) to Semantic MediaWiki with a script: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki... and some extensions for XML import: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki...
- Mike Chelen
There should really be a site or room on FF that tracks all the many StackOverflow clones I've been seeing lately. For some reason, I'm picturing another clone being created itself for this purpose; questions about clones of the original from a clone. THE META IS KILLING ME
Tyson Key, 'Like' robot (frɐnc), Peter Hoffmann and 2 other people liked this
Qualcomm Demonstrates Android on Snapdragon - http://jkontherun.com/2009...
Peter Hoffmann, Rodfather and Mona Nomura liked this
Can't wait to see what other devices will use Snapdragon. Love the specs
- Rodfather
Me too!! I saw this on my reader earlier and forgot to 'like' it here.
- Mona Nomura
Hm. Wonder why it's not catching on. Too expensive?
- Rodfather
Qualcomm + Android + Snapdragon is too obscure, I think. The only reason why I know about Qualcomm is I LOVE MOBILE PHONES!
- Mona Nomura
And now we're finally seeing them come. Almost a year since talking about it now.
- Rodfather
I thought we would see this last Christmas. Now I'm wondering if asian manufacturers will not wait so long and push out devices using their own Linux OS's soon after the flagship processors are released instead of waiting a whole year.
- Rodfather
Real-time, Distributed Conversations: Some Thoughts on the Salmon Protocol - http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog...
Aron Michalski, Peter Hoffmann and imabonehead liked this
CALL FOR CONTRIBUTION: First of all, sorry, guys, I know, I'm bugging you with my "distributed/decentralized social networks" posts. I know, and I'm sorry. I'm looking for someone who can help me promote this idea, work on it, get coders' attention. BECAUSE those who, historically, are known for their interest in this, don't seem interested at all
Jason Huebel, Roney Smith, Louis Simoneau and 20 other people liked this
I'm a man, and honnestly, a passionate one. I'm not good at evangelizing. And above all, I'm nothing but a simple guy. So, please if you want to help, don't think about "me", for I'm nothing. Do it for the sake of the idea :)
- directeur
yay! :)
- Oğuz Serdar
Sağol, Oğuz kardeşim! :) — Oh, and by "historically", I -of course- don't mean Jason, Kol, or AJ. I hope you all understood that :)
- directeur
I am willing to help evangelize and have actually shown www.socnode.org to a few of my friends and co-workers. I am however not a coder :)
- Eric Logan
Thanks, Eric! Any help is welcome, and actually we're living in ear where "marketing" often is more important than the product itself! So, thanks a lot! :)
- directeur
So, everyone; please if you have ideas on anything from the management of this idea to technical stuff, please join the openff group http://friendfeed.com/openff
- directeur
directeur, start blogging about socnode to get the word out. Let the search engines help you spread the word. Another thing is to move the "demo" link from under "code" into the main hyperlinks next to "code."
- imabonehead
dir, don't think I've given up -- real life has thrown some nasty curves I can't talk about (I will on Monday) and my own, very delayed project, has kept me abnormally busy. But I *promise* I will blog a full article about this and might even send you some questions for the article... Sorry I haven't been more involved!
- Jorge Escobar
I'm still behind my schedule to release sample implementation in Erlang ( http://github.com/kgbu... is still under construction). But, through the struggling (esp. with Salmon protocol related implementation), I've learned something to tell. So, I think that I'll be able to post more clear and concrete entry. Then, I'll start thinkng about Social/Economic/Privacy side of the socnode. And, still coding on socnode is fun for me.
- Kazutaka Ogaki
from f2p
@Kazutaka - you are working on the Salmon stuff? That'll be great if you can get that to work!
- Nick Lothian
Thank you, guys! :) Kazutaka, I'm eager to see that! Nick's right, it'll be great if we use salmon as the commenting sub-system of socnodes! Ganbatte kudasai ne! :)
- directeur
I wish could help but I'm no coder. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
No problem at all, Kol! Thank you :)
- directeur
What is there to be done exactly directeur? Is there some sort of a road-map as to goals to be achieved in building these distributed networks? I'm kind of lost still to tell you the truth.
- Itachi
Mohomed, very good question! Well, we have to promote the idea, discuss some technical issues, get more coders and devs, as much as possible implementations in various languages, have blog posts and presentations on the subject... There's a lot of work actually. I'm a lazy dork, I confess, but again, I'm not a superman. I need people's help :-)
- directeur
leolaporte: The Twitter-Bing deal underscores the problem with data silos. Shouldn't search be universal? They're my tweets, not theirs. - http://twitter.com/leolapo...
Arnold Goodway, Dedegi, Andy Bakun and 21 other people liked this
If they're "your tweets" why do you put them in Twitter? The 'silos' argument continues to leak oil. Search is what search vendors make it -- nothing is universal.
- Cliff Gerrish
It's a net neutrality issue. Twitter offers full access to the stream of data (our tweets) only to the highest bidder, not universally. ALL search engines (and others) should have full and equal access to this dataset.
- Leo Laporte
Totally agree with Leo, a worst case scenario is Bing gets exclusive access to both FB and Twitter. At that point everyone needs to get working on PubSubHubBub, rssCloud and/or FriendFeed2 and decentralize social networks. They are becoming a basic communication mechanism and they seem to reside under the control of 3-4 people. Imagine if email had been under the control of 2 companies for the last couple decades.
- Ed Millard
Completely agree with Leo, I wasn't sure of this but they way Leo puts it, makes clear that its net neutrality issue
- Veetrag
Right on Leo. I first heard about this stuff from Brian Hendrickson and Dave Winer, but Marc Canters been raising hell about it for a while.
- Mark Essel
Net neutrality is forced upon companies by us, the users. That's why I think this will never become any issue. We can just drop Twitter for something else like identi.ca if we start to feel locked in. There are always other solutions and other platforms waiting for us. That's is what's so great about the Internet.
- Rutger Blom
Sounds like a nationalize Twitter argument to me. All search engines may spider the public pages. Why should they also have access to Twitter's internals?
- Cliff Gerrish
And since they're "your tweets" why don't you publish them or make them available to search engines yourself. Wouldn't that be the most 'distributed' solution?
- Cliff Gerrish
Exactly.
- Rutger Blom
Um, isn't net neutrality about access to the net? It doesn't guarantee access to data; I, for one, don't want my bank records, for example, to be freely accessible to any search engine. Or anyone else for that matter.
- Mistletoe Glen
In addition, it looks like Google will also have a deal with Twitter. The Bing deal is non-exclusive. The introduction of the term 'net neutrality' is completely orthogonal.
- Cliff Gerrish
I can see his point I mean yeah they are his/our words. But aren't we giving up ownership of those words in exchange for using their service? Yeah I bitch about things like, reliability issues with services like twitter all the time but its free. And in using it I have [been] exposed to ideas and opinions I otherwise might not have been.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
J. Abdul-Qahar: true enough, I was thinking about this today: the value proposition of web sites that connect people. Somehow they draw us in, and instigate us to share, and interact in ways we might normally not have. I have met so many wonderful folks online, and gotten so much incredible information, all for the price of my attention and time. My only wish is that I get to keep my social connections somehow, external to the networks which draw us all in.
- Mark Essel
Look, friendfeed is awesome. Will it remain that way without development, certainly not over the long run. They could open the source base, and allow open source development to keep it rich, and I think ads would pay for server costs. Just let it go and live or die on its own.
- Mark Essel
The basic FF Tornado server is already open source. It has demos with basic functionality, Google login authentication very simple blog, chat and facebook client. Unfortunately I don't think they've open sourced the actual FF server so it would be quite a bit of development work to get Tornado back to the same level of functionality as the current FF server. Hard to say if you could pull it off and get the existing FF user base to migrate in tact and then grow it again.
- Ed Millard
For me its like this. Since I'm not paying ANY money for using a service, when the owners/developers hatch what seems like a well laid plan (or even a hair brained scheme) intended to provide the funds necessary to keep the service going; what can I say? Except of course, good luck. As for open source ff, as hard as they have worked on it, I cant see asking, or expecting them to "hand it over to the community" just because we like it.
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
We're likely to migrate anyway. Most of us already use many social tools, and information searching/aggregating resources. But unfortunately, without dedicated support I can't see friendfeed keeping up with alternatives, even alternatives as limited as the other social streams I use (facebook, Twitter).
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
To be honest I don't really want tweets to be in search. It's bad enough that engines are filled with crappy blogs* and price comparison sites. I want my search to be authoritative. Seems lille this will creat a)noise b)tweet 'seo' and c) tweet seo 'experts'. *unless your a spammer this is unlikely to refer to you
- Phill Price
from iPhone
Phill: sorry, there are SOME Tweets that will help search. I'm seeing those come through all the time. http://twitter.com/favorit... has more than six thousand tweets -- all of which should be on search.
- Robert Scoble
Glen: "net neutrality" and "universal access", I'm sure you know, are the government's buzzwords they're using to ram their toe into the door. Next comes the rest of the foot, then the calf, and when they're finished they've opened the door wide so that THEY have access to all of the data as well. It's for the children, ya know.
- Craig Eddy
I want realtime search. Are Bing and Google going to provide this? Otherwise there are other tools that do a better job. Like TweetDeck.
- Rutger Blom
Rutger: my tweet showed up on Bing nearly instantly yesterday. So that's pretty real time to me. Bing and Google have access to the FULL firehose feed. Real time is here baby! Now, is it useful? That's another question.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: didn't know that. Sounds awesome.
- Rutger Blom
The cost of search will be proportional to demand, according to the theory. $D
- Donald C. Lindsay
Robert: how does bing compare in overall latency to friendfeed search?
- Mike Chelen
Amazon Relational Database Service - http://news.ycombinator.com/item...
NaHi, Bruce Lewis, Peter Hoffmann and Dan Freeman liked this
"This is pretty cool, but for a startup at scale it still makes way more sense to own / operate on your own. For instance for a quadruple extra large instance (68GB) it would cost about $27k a year. Considering you'll want to do master-master for uptime, that's $60k out the door every year for two of these bad boys. Vs owning it... can get a decent dual master setup for a fraction of that."
- Garry Tan
Three Google Wave Searches Worth Saving - http://smarterware.org/3729...
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Salmon Protocol - Activity Streams | Google Groups - http://groups.google.com/group...
Mike Chelen, Robyn Hawk, John Cooper and 4 other people liked this
"The Salmon Protocol (http://salmon-protocol.org) is a real time, decentralized commenting and annotation system. The basic idea is that commentary swims upstream to the thing being commented on, which can then redistribute comments back out to interested subscribers. It's based on Atom and is intended to be compatible with Activity Streams -- using thr:in-reply-to and crosspost:source for example -- and is also intended to allow for reverse syndication of activities such as likes, ratings, etc. that are about an object that has registered a Salmon endpoint. That is, if you like an item you discover in a Salmon-enabled feed, your agent of choice can push the "like" activity up to an endpoint specified by the original item, providing more visibility and potential re-publishing of activities around the web. There's a demo available at http://salmon-playground.appspot.com/ros which posts comments back to a Blogger blog (by proxying to an existing API, just for demo purposes). Feedback and comments welcomed."
- Jason Wehmhoener
from Bookmarklet
Mike Chelen to Mike's feed, Python, python programming, All Things Google, The Google Technology Stack
Fwd: App Engine Console - http://con.appspot.com/console (via http://friendfeed.com/pansapi...)
Matt Mastracci and Peter Hoffmann liked this
Back to Mono - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
Kol Tregaskes, Daniel Rowley, Turner Burns and 26 other people liked this
I don't know enough about the Beatles. Is it good or bad to be the walrus? "Yoko didn’t break up the Beatles. The Beatles did. FriendFeed isn’t dead. It’s just getting started. And the walrus is Paul."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Well, Lennon based "I Am the Walrus" on Lewis Carroll's poem, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...), but didn't realize the Walrus was the villian, so you decide I guess!
- Mark Trapp
The Walrus was only Paul when looking through a Glass Onion.
- Cliff Gerrish
Yeah, hard to explain all those references... It's worth spending some quality time with the albums Gillmor mentions, and learning about the people that made those albums. There are a number of Beatles documentaries as well... Paul, seriously, you don't know the Beatles? really? <shakes head in disbelief>
- Jason Wehmhoener
The real question is: Is Paul the John of Friendfeed? Or is that Bret?
- Cliff Gerrish
Seems like the easiest thing to do would be to just ask Steve. :)
- Cristo
Easy, yes, but certainly less interesting.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I'll add learning to Beatles to my TODO list.
- Paul Buchheit
Why even have references or allusions at all? Everyone should just simply know everything.
- Christopher Galtenberg
I'd say Bret is Paul and Paul is John, just 'cause Paul is Paul would be too simple. The real stumper is who's Ringo? Kevin or Ben? Whichever's not is probably George. And is Gary Stuart Sutcliffe or Pete Best? Or is Jim Norris Stuart Sutcliffe? And what about Sanjeev? My head hurts.
- Ken Sheppardson
By the way, up until the fifth paragraph I was expecting this to make reference to Miguel de Icaza and Richard Stallman. Doh.
- Ken Sheppardson
Someone should ask Paul McCartney if he'd like to be Paul or Bret.
- Jeremy Hylton
Paul - I was wondering what your reaction would be to being called "the Walrus" LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
Pretty funny stuff for FF fans.
- Tim Tyler
Wait... you guys are reading that "the walrus is Paul" as a reference to Paul Buchheit? Rather than McCartney, which is what it's meant for 40-some years now?
- Ken Sheppardson
I think Steve threw that in to be clever and folks are reading a bit much into it. (just as they read a bit much into "I buried Paul" at the end of Strawberry Fields.) of course, the Beatles expected you to read into it, and get confused, and have discussions like this one... BTW, John Lennon felt the Lewis Carroll poem was a criticism of capitalism. Somehow I doubt Steve was trying to say Paul B is an overly greedy capitalist though...
- Jason Wehmhoener
I just DM'ed this via FF to Steve Gillmor hoping for his input on the whole Walrus bit :-)
- Susan Beebe
OK, I don't know why, but I remember quite distinctly that when I was a kid, the lyric, "the walrus was Paul," was taken by some to be a confirmation of the rumor that Paul McCartney had died and the Beatles were covering it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... In 1969, when the rumor gained traction, I actually created a Halloween costume consisting of a bunch of headlines from reputable sources like the National Enquirer about Paul's death...
- Laura Norvig
I'm sitting here with Steve. And he told me the Walrus is John.
- Cliff Gerrish
haah awesome! thanks Cliff
- Susan Beebe
Although he didn't say who Paul is...
- Cliff Gerrish
"If you don't know who the Walrus is, the Walrus is you.." G. Marx
- Parody
Paul is just Paul, of course, but then again he can't be.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is dead.
- I Am the Walrus
Goo goo goo joob. Paul, how about you andme get together for a beer or something snd then go kicking Edgar Allen Poe before climbing up the Eiffel Tower.
- Jim Addz No Value
from iPhone
Wow the Beatles are a TERRIBLE reference to show how friendfeed is still alive. Only two of the original members of the Beatles are still alive and they are not getting any younger.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Yeah, and the remastered Beatles catalog has hardly made a dent in the charts: http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot...
- Cliff Gerrish
The Walrus was was a sort of villain, but I think Steve was emphasizing his role as a pied piper--the guy calling the shots that everybody is listening to and (most blindly) following. The question remains, what will happen to our Oysters?
- Kurtiss Hare
The Age of Social Search Dawns - http://www.steverubel.com/the-age...
Eric Logan, Peter Hoffmann and Cliff Gerrish liked this
Created a community around #googlewave - searching and rating of public waves, user lists - check it out at http://www.igooglewavers.com/
Lee, rowlikeagirl, Peter Hoffmann and 2 other people liked this
@bioinfo Appears to be well designed and thought out Justin, great job! I signed up. I do believe that the involvement will be slow to start though only because of how complex the technology behind the wave is, its gonna take ample of time for Google Wave itself to pick up on progress, especially when there doesn't seem to be a real simple way of getting those contacts (inside GW...
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- Tim Tunnicliff
from email
Thanks Tim, please spread the word, as soon as I am not the only one posting content, I will consider it to be a minor success. I know this will take time, but a consolidated effort of sharing bots, gadgets, videos, etc I hope will save everyone tons of time in the long run and help contribute to the quick uptake of Google Wave - I see immense potential with it as a communication platform. - Justin ( http://www.igooglewavers.com )
- Justin H. Johnson
Dell's Android tablet leaked, detailed - http://www.electronista.com/article...
Peter Hoffmann liked this
This shouldn’t be the image of Hack Day - Simon Willison - http://simonwillison.net/2009...
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Слоник-молчун, Roman Zolotarev, Abraham Romero and 62 other people liked this
"I’ve heard arguments that this kind of thing is culturally acceptable in Taiwan—in fact it may even be expected for technology events, though I’d love to hear further confirmation. I don’t care. ... If we want an all-encompassing technology scene, we need to actively work to cultivate an inclusive environment. This means a zero tolerance approach to this kind of entertainment. Booth babes, tequila girls, and scantily clad gyrating women simply set the wrong tone, here or abroad. Heck, this isn’t just about offending women—many guy geeks I know would be mortified by this kind of thing." Amen
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
yuck. those are some sad photos.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Really? This kind of makes me want to go. :P
- Cristo
Too true. Friends of Lulu has been trying to make this point to the comics industry for years.
- Spidra Webster
This was company sanctioned? Wow, someone needs to have their head read.
- Kenton
It's expected that the "coolest" guys get bitches all through history. See Fonzie, and that begat rock stars and today it's rappers. In Asia, the geeks are as cool there as rappers are here, so in Asia, the geeks get the bitches.
- Matthew DeVries
*packing his bags* :)
- Cristo
I think it is absolutely appalling and I can't believe HR allowed it. Makes me not want to support anything that Yahoo touches. Ever.
- joey
Well, this just strikes me as funny, and I doubt I'd want to go to one of these without those girls there.
- Cristo
Yahoo! has issued an apology via Twitter: http://twitter.com/yahoo... I would presume that a longer response is forthcoming.
- Mistletoe Glen
Very difficult to believe the sincerity of an apology that clearly comes in response to outcry. However, I do believe them when they say it won't happen again.
- Spidra Webster
:(
- Cristo
Don't worry, Cristo. There are still plenty of places where you can get jiggle and blow.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra , but I want to write code at the same time. ;)
- Cristo
You can take your laptop when you go for a lapdance. In the winter, the goils might be esp happy to grind on your laptop. If your machine is anything like mine, it's plenty warm for winter!
- Spidra Webster
There's a lot of sharp edges on the Macbook Air though.
- Cristo
So would it make it all better if they added male strippers?
- Rodfather
Yes, just what the world needs is more zero-tolerance policies!
- Gabe
No it should, that's hawwwwwt
- sofarsoShawn
Well, if they're going to ban the girls, I think they should ban PHP programming too.
- Cristo
This event, and responses on this thread are pretty appalling. As a female in tech, and regularly attending meetings as the only female in a room of 10-30 males, this just illustrates one of the reasons. It's hard enough to just do your job and get heard, much less go to "company tech events" that are clearly geared in every way toward men. sickening.
- Jenna Bilotta
Most of the responses on this thread were intended as humor, which tends to be a hard thing to convey through text. Calling them appalling seems like an over-reaction.
- Cristo
Cristo, in this case, you're pretty much just wrong.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Most humor is wrong.
- Cristo
I thought humor was supposed to be funny? Also, your humor is not original and I'm exposed to this kind of joke day in and day out. It's yet another reason women might feel alienated in tech.
- Jenna Bilotta
Jenna, I fully agree I'm not always funny. It's a risk. I'm sorry if I offended you, and although making light of it, I was not supporting the Taiwan Hack Day performance. But to be honest, I really wouldn't go to one of these anyway regardless of what was there.
- Cristo
Did Carol Bartz address this yet?
- Red Label
Red Label, see Glen Campbell's comment above.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Can they ban PHP instead of women? Afterall, the women are mostly offensive only to women, but PHP should be offensive to everybody.
- Gabe
Why are people such prudes?
- Tanath
"Well, this just strikes me as funny, and I doubt I'd want to go to one of these without those girls there" ~ do you mean it's funny like dwarf throwing is to short people or minstrels to people of colour or how about sheep jokes to new zealanders? The excuse of "hey we're geeks and if you don't understand *cognitive dissonance* - like we respect women hackers but also like naked chicks on stage" is wearing a bit thin.
- Peter Renshaw
as long as woman play no bigger role in tech you will see male related stuff on such events. why should we bend reality. you should pity the lack of interest of femals regarding tech-development (and not just sales) if you feel the need for pity
- Chris Hofmann
I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote this article is gay. Hot chicks in short skirts FTW!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I dunno.. my lesbian friend kinda liked it. (me too).
- Martynas
We're simply a nation of Puritans who say one thing and indulge in the opposite...in secret.
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
The problem here is not a society that craves "bitches" but women who raised to think that being one is an acceptable way to spend one's life, or even a portion of one's life. If there are no "bitches" to consume, then the "bitches" consumer will need to learn to adapt. Mamas don't let your daughters grow up to be "bitches"
- Matthew DeVries
FFS, people. This wasn't just dancing girls - it was lap dancing. http://news.ycombinator.com/item... tries to spell out why that is wrong as clearly as possible, but I think Jenna said it pretty clearly, too.
- Nick Lothian
+1 Jenna - Your comment, and the responses to it illustrate well how little effort is sometimes put in to what it may be like for women and minorities working in tech. It's sad that it needs to be so difficult, and how global this professional bias is.
- Michelle Darnell
Save me a Seat at the DRIP RAIL!! ;PPP
- Billy Warhol
@Tanath I'm far from prudish, believe me, but when this tactic is used to promote something, it makes me feel like they're promoting it to someone other than me. I went through the same thing in the '80s with marketing of musical equipment; it was very clearly pitched to guys. Just not very smart marketing if you want a wider audience!
- Eph Zero
"Well, this just strikes me as funny, and I doubt I'd want to go to one of these without those girls there." -- Funny, as in I wouldn't have gone to this anyway, those guys look really uncomfortable, and just like any number of things on FriendFeed and Youtube, it made me laugh. Also, my wife is in tech, and she thought it was funny too, so I guess I married the right person.
- Cristo
This has nothing to do with being prudish. It has everything to do with being professional. As a woman who works in technology, I work significantly harder than my male counterparts to be heard and respected simply because I'm female. I worked harder to be respected in engineering school and was often told to go do something that 'girls' do better. It's not that women aren't interested...
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- joey
+1 Eph Zero.
- joey
joey, I think the using the term "hack" and "professional" are at odds to me. I agree this shouldn't be in the corporate workplace. I don't go to strip clubs, despite my joking. I also don't like "hacking" to becoming a professional corporate watered-down concept. It's like skateboarding, Yahoo! Taiwan was apparently trying to do both together. They failed, and it was funny to me.
- Cristo
Hacker news claims sexual discrimination. It seems as though the result would be to put the female dancers out of a job. Let's hope they find some other employment.
- Tim Tyler
Cristo, that's true, too, but 'hack days' happen at Microsoft, Expedia, etc. and they're very corporate environments. It was sponsored by Yahoo, it wasn't an impromptu gathering of 'hackers' at a local bar or something (and as a female I'd feel put off by lap dances there as well but not angry as I am that this had corporate backing).
- joey
I'm put off by corporate environments. In fact, it offends me when I'm subjected to it. E.g. I'm offended by most marketing programs, be them politically correct or not. It's their lack of authenticity that offends me.
- Cristo
joey, also you should know a group of hackers would never meet at a local bar and they would never have lap dancers. Didn't you see my list? :) http://friendfeed.com/cristob...
- Cristo
++joey I've experienced everything she mentions in tech, and constantly being called agressive, while my male counterparts are called "enthusiastic" its not ok. And no matter how hard I try to get male coworkers to see this, they just think its all in my head... it sucks.
- Jenna Bilotta
from Android
Jenna, you are aggressive in a good way only. Aggressive people change the world. Empathetic aggressive people change the world for the better.
- Daniel Dulitz
Oh yeaaah, porno chicks sooooooo hawwwwwwwwt
- sofarsoShawn
And it's not just missing the mark with women...what about gay men? Surely there are one or two in tech...
- Eph Zero
Eph, also a good point.
- joey
Marketing departments care little about pleasing small minorities.
- Tim Tyler
@Tim - Behold! The land Non Sequiters has a new king!
- Matthew DeVries
That was a reply to the two comments immediately preceding it.
- Tim Tyler
Tim, marketing a product and recruiting talent should not be the same thing. One can market a product primarily to men or women, but one should not discriminate in who they hire to create said product.
- joey
@Jenna In my experience "he/she is aggressive" is often an excuse by people who can't stand up for themselves. Daniel is right.
- Nick Lothian
++jenna Have you had the 1:1s where you've been asked to tone down your opinions because people get the wrong idea? What idea would that be, I sometimes wonder. Anyway, back on topic, I am far from a prude and I enjoy taking my boyfriends out for lap dances when the mood strikes but this? Not even close to being ok. A professional event should remain professional.
- EricaJoy
Let us also not forget that Yahoo is a publicly traded company that has shareholders to answer to. You really think shareholders want to be paying for lap dances? Doubtful.
- EricaJoy
As for the "booth babe" reference... just remember that judging anyone on appearance can quickly render one a fool. Don't assume. There are a lot of women in tech (growing?) and those women attending an event that are working a booth is no indication they were hired just as bait for men. Ask about the product, and based on the answer -- remember that the vendor cared or didn't care about how they spent marketing dollars.... Yes, a trade show floor is the perfect Roddenberry social fabric encapsulation ;-)
- Jay Cuthrell
Alternatively: print up an official "You wasted my time with your offensive and sexist use of unscripted talent on your booth -- Sincerely, A no longer potential customer" as needed... booth babes and booth boys apply
- Jay Cuthrell
I expect Yahoo shareholders appreciate the value of holding and pulling in young male developers by using sexual stimuli - but don't much care for the resulting international attention.
- Tim Tyler
Re: hiring discrimination - let's not forget that this was a hack day, not a job interview. If they had paid for a creche instead, would we see a similar outcry about discrimination in favour of women?
- Tim Tyler
I am an so call 'male developer' here in Taiwan. In my point of view, I felt that comments about the 'sexual' and 'hr to blame' note should be some kind of misunderstand. I think the hack day@tw is hosted like big event and its a contest between hackers.,In big contest, people do have something temporary transfer/release their tension. Take superball for example, half-time show is one...
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- marx
InfoQ: REST-based Integration Architecture for a Financial Business Service (video w/ slides) - http://www.infoq.com/present...
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"Phillip Ghadir presents a financial application that was initially built using SOAP, WSDL, WS-*, and was later migrated to use REST, Atom, and AtomPub, explaining the decisions made, the pitfalls and the lessons learned along the way."
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Coding Simplicity: How to Avoid Feature Creep in Your Life - http://zenhabits.net/2009...
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Those of you who are 10 or 20 or more years beyond that point know that life isn’t that simple anymore — at least, not for most of us. Life tends to add features as we go along, and as they come out into the marketplace. We now have all the Internet technology we mentioned above, but there’s more. There’s debt and all kinds of payments to make. There’s kids and all the things that come with that (an amazing array of features, good and bad). There’s more responsibilities and commitments and a more crowded schedule. We’re not bored, and we have more means, and a career, likely. But these features bring much more: burdens, and an overloaded schedule, and conflicts that can lead to crashes. Headaches we don’t need.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
The State of the Blogosphere 2009 Edition - http://www.steverubel.com/the-sta...
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is there such a thing as the blogosphere?
- Loic Le Meur
If I were to extrapolate from Technorati's Account > Profile > Location, if there is a "Blogosphere", they assume it exists only in the US. I seriously doubt the stats produced by a company with such a narrow view of the net.
- Yaniv Golan
Technorati has been seriously overtaken by events.
- James Cherkoff
Anyone want a FriendFeed invite? I have 8 of them.
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FriendFeed has invites?
- Otto
Ha. Nice.
- Louis Gray
good one
- Allen Stern
Otto yeah, tell your friends I have a few
- Jesse Stay
They're very rare
- Jesse Stay
hahaha! Frame one and sell the rest on eBay ;)
- Shane
Just make sure you use "EXTREMELY RARE" (in all-caps) in the Ebay description. That will get a lot of people to bid on them.
- Curtiss Grymala
????????????
- ffcode
man you are a veteran you should have more than that :p
- ffcode
LOL. Funny Jesse. How about socialtoo invites, eh??
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto I have those too - want one?
- Jesse Stay
Hell YEAH!!! I'll even trade you one of my Facebook invites
- sofarsoShawn
I will pay top dollar for the privilege of contributing on friendfeed - anyone?
- Christopher Galtenberg
Christopher, I charge $100/hr - deal?
- Jesse Stay
sofarsoShawn gets the first one - now down to 7 (totally needed one of those)
- Jesse Stay
How many hours for an invite?
- Christopher Galtenberg
I have many FriendFeed goodbyes. Unfortunately they are in great demand these days :(
- Jemm
What's next, AOL CD's ?
- Mike Nencetti
LOL. Do you happen to have any Twitter invites?
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Christopher, invites are free, just high demand and very rare.
- Jesse Stay
John, sorry, I don't have any Twitter invites - there are lots of those out there though. I'm sure you can find some. :-)
- Jesse Stay
I would actually pay for service here, if we could have the FF team back
- Christopher Galtenberg
I have 97 gmail invites left. First come first served.
- Daniel Sims
I have 3 comment invites. Next three commenters each get one.
- Sid Burgess
Well played, Jesse, well played. :)
- Micah Wittman
Darn! Mike Nencetti beat me to the punch on AOL CDs.
- John E. Bredehoft
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You should eBay those suckers!
- Otto
Woohoo... I must get a Friendfeed invite @Jesse. Can I offer you 3 MySpace invites for one Friendfeed?
- Courtney Engle
I can offer 80 gmail invites for your friendfeed one. :)
- Daynah
I'm telling you. This Friendster thing is going to take off.
- Joel R
hey have you tried Excite for search?
- Thomas Power
Jesse, you should try posting this to twitter and see what happens
- Pablo Melchor
Pah, Lycos is where it's at, Thomas! ;)
- Tyson Key
The Three Laws of Open Data - http://gov2.net.au/blog...
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A good three point summary of what makes data open. This is from a Government perspective but nonetheless the arguments hold for other domains.
- Cameron Neylon
Yeah, goes beyond 'Open Data' and into 'Open Standards'. It is good that it goes beyond just licensing!
- Egon Willighagen
Are manuscript supplementary materials usually distributed under the same license as the original manuscript? The reason I'm asking is that authors could just as easily provide a link to the manuscript data on their own server instead, and release under any copyright they prefer.
- Michael Barton
Its generally the case by default. This is one of the things that gets PMR worked up around supplementary materials. If you're sending to a journal with unpleasant copyrights you may be better placed to host data elsewhere. If a nice CC-BY journal then it is probably ok - although it still causes the usual confusion over where the licence applies.
- Cameron Neylon
In your talk you recommended copyleft - if you published in an OA journal could you simultaneously release them on your own website?
- Michael Barton
Michael Barton: As with any other journal, it depends on the publication agreement you sign. A very few OA journals want sole-dissemination rights (most don't); many, many toll-access journals allow some version of your paper to appear on your own website or in a disciplinary or institutional archive.
- D0r0th34
I think OA journals like PLoS and BMC give the authors the copyright?
- Michael Barton
Erm. They can't. :) They can allow authors to retain their copyright. Subtle but important distinction; a publisher only *has* copyright when an author signs it over to them. Anyway, yes, you're right; PLoS journals allow authors to retain copyright.
- D0r0th34
Strictly speaking I didn't recommend copyleft but public domain. The distinction is important (to some of us) because we don't want to limit fields or types of re-use. So ccZero is public domain, CC-BY is a copyright licence that is the most liberable available and used by the best OA journals (as in the ones I like the most :) but it isn't copyleft either. Just attribution required.
- Cameron Neylon
Episode 20 – Wer bin ich? - http://blog.openwebpodcast.de/205...
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Authors@Google: Donald Knuth - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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"Professor Donald Knuth visits Google's Mountain View, CA headquarters to discuss the interactions between faith and science. This event took place on March 16, 2009, as part of the Authors@Google series."
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julia fullerton - batten - http://www.jenkinsjohnsongallery.com/artists...
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- Evgeny
100 Best Professors Who Blog | Online College Tips - Online Colleges - http://www.onlinecollege.org/2009...
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"Online students have a lot to learn online, and you can find great knowledge from professors’ blogs. Whether they’re about science or political science, you’ll find something interesting on each of these blogs. Read on to check out our collection of the 100 best professor blogs online."
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Interesting list...
- Cameron Neylon
How to use Google Wave on your iPhone | holgr.com - http://holgr.com/blog...
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"On October 1st Google released Wave to some 100.000 selected beta testers. While I wasn’t lucky enough to get a first row seat, I had the luck to be nominated by Andrew Terry and Kol Tregaskes for an invite. 2-3 days later my nomination by these fine guys came through. Currently the best way to use Wave is using a regular browser on your computer. In some instances though you might want to use it on the go, say, on an iPhone or iPod touch. There are various claims out there that state it isn’t possible because Google said so on their site when you tried to go there with MobileSafari. It does work though, and it’s not a real secret. Have a look."
- Holger Eilhard
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I wish it worked on my Nokia.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome
- Zachary TG
An Open Letter to Elisa Steele EVP & Chief Marketing Officer, Yahoo Inc. on the New “The Internet is You,” Yahoo Marketing Campaign - http://thomashawk.com/2009...
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But yesterday, while we were conversing there, and without any warning or opportunity to take any sort of self-corrective action, your Community Manager went nuclear and destroyed all of that user data. All of it. Every last thread. With a push of a button. Threads that were meaningful and important to us. This was data that did not belong to Yahoo! Elisa. You destroyed something that did not belong to you. You destroyed hours and hours of peoples hard work maliciously and callously. You destroyed a group dedicated to free speech, but more significantly you destroyed a group that thousands of people had put significant emotional energy into. And do you know what your Community Manager was tweeting mere seconds before she nuked this very popular group Elisa? She was tweeting “I hate your freedom.” That’s right Elisa I, hate, your, freedom. That’s the image that I chose to go with this letter to you. A screenshot of her freedom hating tweet.
- Thomas Hawk
That message is just so malicious and personal.
- Andrew Smith
Yes it is Andrew, unfortunately. But this is the message that Yahoo apparently seems to want to allow to be sent out to the masses when they rip apart an online community.
- Thomas Hawk
Big thumbs up, Thomas!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
I am touched, Thomas. Thanks for writing this down and sharing it with us. The tweet from Heather was unwarranted. Flickr has always enjoyed a lot of community love - even when they merged with Yahoo. However, the last few episodes with the service have just left us all with a bad taste in our mouths and I think the time is now for them to dramatically change the way they function or...
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- Asfaq
I'm not in 100% agreement with you on this one Thomas, although I will say that it seems Flickr were far too quick in deleting the group. But the whole concept of 'freedom of speech' is more than a little wishy washy to me. Speech is one of a number of competing freedoms, and in the real world they just doesn't work. For true freedom, go and live on an island with a population of one -...
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- Gary
Gary, that's fine. And as someone who *clearly* had crossed a flickr line by posting threats of violence James should have had his account deleted by Flickr. He threatened people with violence. He clearly crossed a line. I would have had no problem with that. When his account was deleted every violent reference he made would be gone. But nuking a group of almost 3,500 people for his...
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- Thomas Hawk
My question now would be, did no one report him to Flickr? Could he not be ejected from the group? Some people, not necessarily you, were baiting him. I do agree that Flickr were too quick to nuke the group, but at the same time the group admins were too slow to address the problem themselves. You and other admins must have been aware of the potential consequences of having a running...
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- Gary
Gary, I believe the user was reported to Flickr, multiple times. They did nothing to him from what I understand. If you eject a user from the group they can just rejoin over and over and over again with new accounts. It solves nothing. Only flickr can ban actual IP addresses. FF is working out ok for now. It's not ideal. We had a lot of threads with images and gifs in them. You can't...
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- Thomas Hawk
I should add that Flickr did eventually nuke the user's account, but not until he made similar threats of violence in the Help Forum.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas...that's fair enough. More black marks to Flickr for not taking action sooner regarding James the Troll. I belong to a more general non photo forum where sock puppet accounts of banned users appear over and over again. The only solution is to not respond, but in any environment where there are a large number of users, there will always be one or two who snap back now and again. Do you think your 'running battles' with Flickr contributed to their being so trigger happy?
- Gary
Btw, I wouldn't even give James the time of day. On your blog you said you'd give him the opportunity to reply. He was never going to contribute anything other than BS, and has proven that. You should just delete his comments. Leaving them there just encourages him.
- Gary
Greeblemonkey: Anyone else feel like they just watched 12 Monkeys all day? #balloonboy - http://twitter.com/Greeble...
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Live now: This Week In Computer Harware with PC Perspective's Ryan Shrout, http://pcper.com. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
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"These are the TWiCH I can do without... Come on, I'm talking to you, come on" Just needed to do that to get that song out of my head...
- Johnny Worthington
Did you see Santa?
- Johnny Worthington
But can it play Flash video? :P
- Johnny Worthington
* NVIDIA Tegra rumored to be included in new Nintendo handheld http://www.pcper.com/comment...
- Leo Laporte
* More information on NVIDIA's chipset business http://www.pcper.com/comment...
- Leo Laporte
* NVIDIA is not closing their doors on selling or producing existing chipsets, either for AMD or Intel platforms. The GeForce 9400M and the ION names are, as of right now, essentially referring to the same product - the one used in all current Apple MacBook Pro machines (as well as several of the Apple iMac configurations) and numerous netbooks and nettops like the HP Mini 311. It is...
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- Leo Laporte
* I do know that NVIDIA has just one more chipset planned for this segment, what we essentially know as the ION 2 platform, that is being built pretty much exclusively for a single major OEM - of the fruit variety. Surely you didn't think Apple would base almost its entire line of products on a technology without an upgrade path?
- Leo Laporte
* If we consider the fact that ION 2 is basically a completed product at this time, with only very minor changes and tweaks being done to suit the OEM in question, then we can rest assured that chipset development at NVIDIA is essentially over - just to reiterate my original point.
- Leo Laporte
* The second point made by NVIDIA here is that they are no longer developing for the current generation desktop Intel platforms because they have essentially be locked out of the platform by Intel's legal department. The debate will rage on for months if not years about who is legally correct here, but it will not matter - NVIDIA has decided it is not worth the cost to do business with...
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- Leo Laporte
I remember when the GameBoy went color...
- Johnny Worthington
* The term "well into the future" is purposely ambiguous after all - ION and the ION 2 product could in fact last into 2011 if NVIDIA plays its cards right or it could fizzle out in mid-2010 depending on how aggressive Intel becomes on pricing, etc. After ION 2 sees the door we can assume that parts of the chipset team at NVIDIA will survive to do marketing and support of the product but engineers will be reassigned or looking for new work outside the company.
- Leo Laporte
You never marry for pretty
- Johnny Worthington
* New Intel Clarksfield and Arrandale mobility CPUs 1. http://www.pcper.com/article... 2. Clarksfield too power hungry for a Mac? 3. Arrandale - would require a discrete GPU any way to support OpenCL
- Leo Laporte
* Lynnfield system build continuation 2. This week is memory and/or graphics? Storage? 3. Memory: only need 2 channels now than 3, 4GB is really cheap: 75-85 for 2x2gb, double that for 8gb with 4 modules 1. Only found one 2 x 4gb and it was $440 !!! 2. Eve 4 x 2GBs as a package are starting at $239, dumb
- Leo Laporte
* Storage: SSDs vs HDDs 1. If you are using as main system, then SSDs are definitely worth a look, but you'll need other stuff 2. For HTPC - not as big of a deal, focus on best capacity / $
- Leo Laporte
Leo, have you seen the pics of the new Adamo?! 9.99mm thick...
- Holger Eilhard
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SSD only makes sense for a HTPC if you are building a completely silent fanless system. But then you need a NAS somewhere else for your video data.
- Ghworg
Thanks or entries into the charity raffle 1. Over $10k raised! 2. Announce winners 3. System: T. Curtis of N. Dakota 4. TTake Goods (Element G and Toughpower 750w): J. Ray (of ??) and M. Peterson (of ??)
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New contest - system giveaway!!!! 1. Specs: 2. URL: http://pcper.com/contest (points to a forums post)
- Leo Laporte
An SSD question. We can now play games and video off the hard drive on the Xbox 360. If I was to swap out my 20GB for an SSD, would it perform better?
- Johnny Worthington
I don't think you can replace the Xbox drive with an SSD, doesn't it have to be an approved drive with special firmware?
- Ghworg
I'm off to the PCPer forums to spam my website, that's a contribution isn't it? ;-)
- Ghworg
It's 9:19am on Thursday here if it helps
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Drew Carey's campaign started when Drew Olanoff (@drew, #blamedrewscancer) announced he was auctioning off his username to benefit Livestrong http://www.cnn.com/2009...
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I don't use any AV or security software on Windows either, if you know what you are doing, there is no need.
- Ryan
If you don't use the software, how do you "scan periodically"?
- Ken Sheppardson
You're using the software, just not frequently.
- Ken Sheppardson
could be using something like housecall or some type of "portable" AV
- Ryan
Audible Pick: We'll Be Here For the Rest of Our Lives: A Swingin' Showbiz Saga UNABRIDGED By Paul Shaffer http://www.audible.com/adbl...
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Tease: Snow Leopard gets Sidekicked, Mossberg disses Apple, and inside the iPhone update.
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