"But that means the authors still hold the copyright? And I would have to ask them for permission? Normally yes."
- Egon Willighagen
Elsevier, FooBar and Content-mining – yet another Digital Land Grab – wake up academia and fight. Or surrender for ever - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
So important. #FRPAA doesn't solve this at all (PubMed Central can't be used for text mining). I'd like to hope #FRPAA is a positive incremental step toward text mining, but maybe energy will die without getting there. Should we be lobbying for inclusion of text mining rights in it now while energy is up, and or making it clear that we interpret #FRPAA as including text mining rights, or ?
- Heather Piwowar
Note that FRPAA doesn't actually mandate use of PMC so agencies have an opportunity to have differen repos with different rejuirements so there is the potential at least to do things better in the particular area of text mining
- Cameron Neylon
Checked more articles and added average. The minimum charge is actually 31.50. The only way they can make that claim is by factoring in OA articles at zero dollars - and even then it's doubtful and the usage of "per article cost" misleading.
- Björn Brembs
I'm sure the figure they have is based on subscription costs, not the per-article charges. That argument is a little more subtle - they've expanded page numbers faster than they've expanded charges. Of course if technology was being used effectively the cost per page should have dropped by an order of magnitude.
- Cameron Neylon
The point is that they could have taken the average of just a few chosen papers - or just made the numbers up. There's no way to check and what ways we have contradicts their statement.
- Björn Brembs
I just realized that I must have commented on the wrong post with my first comment. Sorry, it was early morning on a weekend with a toddler asking for attention... Now if I could find the post I wanted to comment on, the one with the Open Letter from Elsevier...
- Björn Brembs
Brian McMahon: Publishing Semantic Crystallography; EVERY science (data) publisher should watch this ALL THE WAY through - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...
Cameron Neylon at Semantic Physical Science; Software philosophy, why the RWA is wrong, and how we change the publishing market - http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr...