I can't imagine two more different things to flick between. Love it. EDIT: Actually maybe Japanese Fudge Wrestling and A Man Named Horse are more different. But only just.
- Philip Tomlinson
I love how you didn't say Springboks, be scared of Ireland. In fairness, they better be on their game come November 28th. Field a full strength side, and go in all guns blazing.
- Philip Tomlinson
"Radiohead frontman Thom Yorke has said recording another album would "kill" the band because making records has become a "real drag" to them."
- Kol Tregaskes
from Bookmarklet
I hope this is a load of rubbish. I *need* more Radiohead albums! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
No WAY! I can't believe it! I don' want believe!
- ★ Soner Gönül
You can download a track they did about the World's oldest geezer, who died recently on their website. He didn't actually die on the website that just came out wrong. All proceeds go British Legion. http://www.radiohead.com/deadair...
- Toby Graham
One good thing already about the sale of FriendFeed to Facebook: fewer lame memes and less Alex Scoble. Hey, if everyone leaves I'll have this place to myself! Party time, tequila shots for everyone! :-)
Mathew: I'm sure I'll miss the stupid memes someday. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Pfft! Obviously Robert is following all the unfun people: my feed is being filled with #badjokememe this morning and it's absolutely awesome =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Hear hear to the lame memes disappearing Robert. My hide button was starting to wear out. Each to their own... but it's not my cup of Rooibos.
- Philip Tomlinson
Tina: I follow them too. I'm just having some fun with those of you in the Alex camp.
- Robert Scoble
LOL! As an aside, 'Alex Camp' would be a great name for a conference. Or you two could co-host and make it Scoble-Palooza. Tech in the mornings, home entertainment in the afternoons, and evenings of social media.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And @ZuDfunck: it's social media. It is by definition a circle jerk.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Tina: Thought I was being uniquely clever! But you already heard that. Damn!
- aTechDude
Tina: Now that they are tearing out the carpet and ripping up the walls, will your avatar grace Twitter?
- aTechDude
Hey, now, if anyone's in anyone's camp, Alex is in MY camp.
- Akiva Moskovitz
oh, maybe not bacon Robert, but you'll be getting plenty of facebook spam from now on!
- Jim Hearts FF
Jim: I don't get Facebook spam and I have 5,000 friends. I get a lot of useless crap that I just ignore. No biggie.
- Robert Scoble
:-P (well, I prefer bacon over useless crap)
- Jim Hearts FF
ZuDfunck, Twitter and I have a long standing hate-hate relationship. I've had an account there for a while and have never once actually found the service usable or useful. I find the noise there intolerable because I have no means of actually dealing with it. That's why I enjoy FF so much, there are plenty of tools for me to craft the service to be what I want it to be.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeah, I'd rather go to Akiva's camp than mine.
- Alex Scoble
So I ask you, where do you find the most healthy discussion? Is there such a place? The first place that comes to mind is Hacker News, but even there, its not really a community as such and its highly targeted to the developer/entrepreneur type. There’s Digg, YouTube, etc. lets not even go there. Where else is there a genuinely awesome platform for open discussion across a variety of topics? Heck, any topic? The ability to integrate media (photos, video) into the discussions is a bonus. The only site that appears to not have me immediately dismissing it is the still in beta, Redux.
- Zee.
from Bookmarklet
Zee, do we need one place ? With the advent of JS-Kit Echo, perhaps we (power users) should use a symphony of services, allowing third-party services to aggregate our content. Let them worry about aggregation and connectivity.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Perhaps it's better to avoid investing energy+emotion into one service - especially when it's free and the founders can sell it whenever they want.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
How about Strands? Haven't seen them in the discussions...
- Patrik Johansson
Redux looks just like...errr.....friendfeed! Pretty easy to make the switch...but will we?
- Adarsh
Agreed with Patrik. Strands seems similar to FF.
- LouCypher
I don't think it is at all certain yet that Friendfeed will die, particularly as it ties in well with the conversations held in the social sphere and Facebook has been making an effort to be relevant there with its facebook connect system. It all depends on whether this was a voluntary sale or not, as if it's the latter, then FF is f**ked.
- Vincent van Wylick
Ah crap my quote was wrong. I googled it and it should be: "Give Doc the shotgun. They're less apt to get nervy if he's on the street howitzer."
- Philip Tomlinson
An umpire has died after being struck on the head by a ball in a freak accident during a local cricket match. Alcwyn Jenkins was officiating a game at the St Helen’s ground in Swansea yesterday afternoon when he collapsed after the blow. The 72-year-old from the Sketty area of the city was airlifted to hospital but died shortly afterwards. The game between Swansea and Llangennech in Division One of the Antur Insurance South Wales Association was later abandoned. Witnesses said a batsmen hit the ball to a boundary where a fielder threw it back to the wicket. But Mr Jenkins failed to see it coming at speed and it hit him on the side of the head.
- Philip Tomlinson
from Bookmarklet
The self-described 'last working Southern black minstrel', Abner Jay was an itinerant one-man band who travelled across the American South in a converted mobile home that opened up into a portable stage, complete with amplification and home furnishings. Jay finger-picked a bittersweet but heartfelt comic blues on a long-necked, six-string banjo that he said had been made in 1748. It had been passed down to him by his grandfather, Louis W Jay, born a slave and later to teach Abner many of the traditions he made it his mission to keep alive.
- Philip Tomlinson
from Bookmarklet
Tridges are - maybe unsurprisingly - a rare breed of bridge which are - again unsurprisingly after cleverly dissecting the name - notable by the presence of 3 spans rather than the usual 1. basically they're bridges which are y-shaped instead of i-shaped and are usually found at confluences where 3 land masses need connecting
- Philip Tomlinson
from Bookmarklet
Football attracts an unhealthy amount of hooliganism (especially in poland) and most stadiums contain enclosed areas for away fans but i suppose seeing an enclosed area this tiny really brings home the absurdity and depressing reality of the situation.
- Philip Tomlinson
from Bookmarklet
Firstly you look for old clothes or blankets. Then you put a few condoms around, which you blow up with your mouth, but not with too much air. Just so it’s the same size as a soccer ball. After this you put either a plastic bag or a piece of old clothing over the condom. Then to make it strong, you tear up the old clothing or blanket into long strips and tie the strips all around the condom to strengthen the shape of the ball and make it heavier. Once you can feel it bounces well, you take a strong plastic bag and wrap it around the ball. Lastly you reinforce it by wrapping strong rope or tire wire around it.
- Philip Tomlinson
from Bookmarklet
Thanks for your concern all. It actually doesn't hurt very much. The worst thing is only being able to see out of one eye. Very disconcerting. That.. and the fact that everyone now thinks I've been in a bar fight and lost.
- Philip Tomlinson
When I tell people that I was in the Air Force for 7.5 years, invariably they ask if I flew planes. I was a computer operator and this question is stupid...less than .1% of the people in the Air Force fly planes.
- Alex Scoble
But you don't wash your hair do you? or Can I touch your hair? And the one that makes me cockpunchy: Biracial kids are the best looking, huh?
- Captain Bubbles
Ew. Why would you like the Cowboys/Lakers?
- ♥patricia♥
"Is this stuff safe for dogs?" (Whilst standing in a pet bakery) Will also allow: "Is that chocolate? I thought chocolate was bad for dogs" (Again, in a pet bakery)
- Paul Reynolds
Why would you want to put your life out there for people to see?
- ♥patricia♥
Is your baby sleeping through the night yet? (No, she's not. She's a baby.)
- Rochelle
You don't use unit tests?? (Not in a pet bakery)
- Paul Reynolds
"How's your day going?" I mean, if I'm having a bad day, do they really want to know about it?!
- Rick Kaiser
Actually, yes, Rick, I do want to know how your day actually is going when I ask that.
- Alex Scoble
On phone, typing, shuffling papers, walks in... "Are you busy?" [no space for response] Sits down begins talking...
- SAM
Oh yeah, "How could you marry a white man?"
- Captain Bubbles
Your baby is so small! She's about a month old, right? (No, she's four months old. I know she's really small. Yes, she's getting enough to eat. Leave us alone about it.)
- Rochelle
Damn, Anika...how could you? We're WHITE and pasty and WHITE and stuff!
- Alex Scoble
Alex, I get the same question. My answer is that I fly a desk. It gets a funny look until I have to start explaining how many people it takes to support pilots (and each other) in the Air Force.
- CAJ, somewhere else
will you be able to make a payment in any amount this month?
- Morgan Haley
Not to mention the people who don't even support pilots. I was stationed at Onizuka Air Base (now Onizuka Air Station) in Sunnyvale, CA. We had no flight line and no pilots. We supported the military's satellite operations.
- Alex Scoble
New one: Is that your Grandson? btw the answer is: no, it's my son and no that's my nanny, i'm only 31 (as of today).
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Short girls are The Cuteness. It's true. I saw it on a tee shirt.
- ♥patricia♥
The most annoying one ever: 'Will you please stop having sex with my wife/girlfriend?' The answer is always, of course, 'No.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
And basically any question that shows very obviously the person hasn't tried to find the answer him/herself. More work related than anything else. Wishing there was a "Let me Google that for you" for real life situations.
- ♥patricia♥
Why must I drink all this water, can I pee yet? *no*, give me five minutes and you can pee, I promise.
- Janet
You really have your hands full, don't you? Usually as my kids are being obnoxious somewhere.
- Heather Solos
Do you walk to school or carry your lunch?
- Glen Mistletoe
In a mall when people ask if I need help finding anything my first thought is "No thank you, I don't need remedial shopping lessons."
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
"Glen Campbell: do you get kidded about that a lot?" — "No, but every single person asks that question."
- Glen Mistletoe
When my hair was different colours, I was always getting asked "Did you know your hair is (colour)?" and "Why did you do that to your hair?" and "Does your mother know you did that?" ... strangely, m9m was almost always with me when I'd get asked that and she'd say "Are you kidding? I picked the colour!"
- Nine
You know, I am presently realizing that I'm so obnoxiously talkative that I don't have any questions that people ask me all the time that annoy me. The questions that ought to annoy me just provoke long lectures directed at the person asking questions. That'll learn 'em fer shure.
- Wirehead
"Which part of Australia are you from?" (I'm South African)
- Philip Tomlinson
Do people wear shoes in Mississippi? When did you people get electricity in Mississippi? Did you have a pet alligator when you were a kid in Mississippi? Can you teach me to play banjo? Are you in the Klan?
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
Did you grow up in Mississippi, Tad?
- Alex Scoble
Yes, Alex. Grew up in Vicksburg, population 25,000. The Gibraltar of the Confederacy.
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
T - H - A - T - you did just fine, Yandee!
- WorldofHiglet
do you have more than one wife. *cringe*
- Joshua Schnell
And the answer to Lorins Q should always be NO! The Idea gives me nightmares, I have enough trying to keep track of my hubs and I n our finances... UG!
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
I think every Mormon man must get that question outside of Utah. That's pretty old and played out. Better stereotypical questions to ask Mormons: How often do you watch Lawrence Welk reruns? Do you like to put mayonnaise on everything? Is your other car a minivan too? Would you like a beer? A coke? Cup of coffee? (certainly no offense meant)
- Internet's Tad
from fftogo
What does Lawrence Welk have to do with the Mormons?
- Alex Scoble
Alex, I was at Oz from 94-98 working on the second floor of the Blue Cube. Small world. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
I was there in the AF from 89 to 95 at the Base Com SCIF and as a contractor in the LAN shop from 96 to 98.
- Alex Scoble
The location based ones remind me of this conversation I always have: "Are you from Jamaica or NYC?" No, I'm from Kansas CIty. "You're from Kansas?" No, Kansas CITY. "So, did you like live on a farm with corns and cows?" SHOOT ME.
- Captain Bubbles
Oh, lately, all variations of baby food questions are irritating me. "What is her favorite food so far?" (Breastmilk. She hasn't had food yet.) "Are you going to make your own baby food or buy jars?" (We're not feeding her any baby food.) "Why haven't you given her rice cereal yet?" (Uh, no. Just no.)
- Rochelle
"Do you know who you look like?" No good ever comes from the conversation that follows. Also, agree on the Air Force / Pilot question. Especially as I tell people I was *enlisted* in the Air Force.
- The Letter M
I had my nose pierced in 2001 when I first moved to the Bay Area. People who have known me since then occasionally ask me if I just had my nose pierced. Sheesh.
- Lisa L. Seifert
You don't eat pork at all? Are you Jewish? How can you not eat catfish/shrimp/lobster?
- ha3rvey (needs soup)
from fftogo
the internet is down. can you fix it?
- Carlos Ayala
Do they speak English in the land of What?
- Alex Scoble
"Have you read all those books?" nah - I buy 'em by the truckload because I want my floors to collapse.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I can't connect to the network, what's going on? I can't print. Can you fix it? The printer is out of ink, do we have more? (the last one kills me because it's not a question of whether we have more but whether I will go in and change it. and they know the answer is No but they still ask)
- ♥patricia♥
Alex, my dad did the satellite stuff in the Air Force from Sunnyvale, too! A lot earlier than you did, I'm sure...during Vietnam.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Nice! My dad also worked across the street at Lockheed for 28 years.
- Alex Scoble
Jandy! You're stepping all over my special Alex-Alan bond. :P
- CAJ, somewhere else
"I know you hate drive-bys but..." (said to me peering over my makeshift wall around my desk in the corner of a room that's at the corner of the building)
- metalerik
Did you know that there's a David Cook who won American Idol?
- David Cook
I hope you act surprised to hear this question David!
- Janet
Two: "Did your tattoos, hurt?" (as pointed out by others) And, "Are you sure you're gay" or "When did you know you were gay?"
- Derrick
"You're not going to eat all of that, are you?"
- Aron Michalski
"What are you doing?" (when they're looking right at me)
- Karoli
@jlt-Janet, I have done that a couple times. =D It's funny because then they start explaining who he is. The best one I got was almost a direct quote from Office Space. "David Cook??? You mean like that singer guy?"
- David Cook
Oh, the other one is "How is your name pronounced?" I know it's weird, but you'd be amazed at the convoluted things folks come up with. Standard response: "rhymes with merrily", I say, as I glare. :)
- Karoli
And now I have the song "Keroli, Keroli, Keroli, Keroli, life is but a dream" stuck in my head, thanks!
- Alex Scoble
Not a question but still bugs me: "You know you really should try to get some sleep." Really? You think? And here I thought it was a good thing to be up for 24 hours every other day.
- ♥patricia♥
"How tall are you?" "Do you have to buy special clothes?" "So where do you get you clothes from?" (Because, obviously, average height people need to know where to buy clothes for tall people. Maybe it's for gifting reasons - damn!) Oh - and of course - "Can you fix my computer?" "I think I have a virus and I can't find any of my files, will you find them for me?"
- Andy Bold
What nationatlity are you? Are you part japanese or Hawaiian? Why don't you have an accent in English or Spanish? Why are you always standing up for a cause? Your implants look great, who did them? Do you get botox? (The answer is no I'm not part Japanese or Hawaiian. I don't know why I don't have an accent. I don't have breast implants and I don't do botox. And as for why I stand up for a cause? Because the world isn't just about YOU and you have to look out for others). ; )
- Adriana
Brother, calling me on his cellphone: "Are you on the internet just now?" followed by a request to look something up on a map, do his flight checkin. It wouldn't irritate so if I actually heard from him in, you know, other contexts.
- Susan A. Kitchens
"You left California to move here!? Why?</indignant>" ~Just tell me what you want to hear so I can get this over with.
- Micah Wittman
"Where are you from ?" - Irritating, because I've lived outside my 'home' country all my life, and the place where I live as an expatriate considers me just that - a foreigner.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Some of those are just awful! As background, I'm Caucasian and my wife is Japanese. I get: "Oh, you speak Japanese so well!" Me: "Thanks, I get by." Them: "Are you married to a Japanese?" Me: "Yes... (here it comes again)" Them: "Ohhhhh, _that_'s why you speak Japanese so well!" $%%&$%##!!!!
- Rick Cogley
A couple of times when our kids were small, we got: "Oh, those kids are so cute!" Then, looking at my wife: "Are you the nanny?" JEEZ!
- Rick Cogley
Ah yes. "But don't you *want* to have children?"
- ♥patricia♥
My name is Carlton. When I meet people these 2 questions are inevitable: "Like on the Fresh Prince?" And..."Can you do the Carlton Dance?". Yes, like on the Fresh Prince...and NO. I cannot.
- Carlton Hackett
"Mind if I let the dogs out while you conduct our land survey?"
- wyclif
"Why would they do that?" When someone is told the '19 hijackers' story does not cover the bases and obviously some other powerful group - more powerful than guys from the desert, had to be the true criminals....Another one, not too informed or well thought out: "But what happened to the passengers?"
- Marg Uerite
"You read comics/watch cartoons?...how old are you?" As though comics are meant for children (think Watchmen, Y: The Last Man) or cartoons either (Family Guy, ATHF, Dethklok).
- Carlton Hackett
"Why are you a vegetarian?" and "Don't you have deficiency problems?" The first question sometimes sounds like "Are you a crazy hippie or did you have to quit eating meat for health reasons". And I'm perfectly healthy, thank you.
- Brome
When are you going to make us a grand baby? ;o)
- Paul Reynolds
"How do you get your hair like that?" <-- this question doesn't bother me. It's the follow up questions that come in rapid succession and are usually asked with a measure of disbelief: "So you don't do anything to it?" (No.) "No texturizer?" (No.) "No chemicals?" (No.) "No nothing?" (That's what I said the first 5 times)
- tiffany
"Where are you from?" "So, you don't speak Spanish?" "Is one of your parents white?"
- tiffany
"Where are you from?" "What kind of name is that?" "Why don't you speak____________?" (I get Spanish a lot as well). "Why don't you do something with your hair?" "Do you believe in God?" "Are you _________?" (Italian, Mexican, Jewish, et. al.)
- Helen Sventitsky
"how do you get so skinny?" - I''d never ask you how you got so fat so zip it!!
- Charlotte M
"Can you fix my webmail?" Double Annoyance Score when asked by a pretty girl I'm talking to in a bar. Also see "Can you change my grades?" Inevitably she gets turned off and I go home alone to be left to my Thunder in Paradise episodes and Weather Channel music.
- Jared Smith
I think I am pretty much done with friendfeed... sorry to say, it seems no-one bothers with anything I post or share, although I have not been so active here... I don't have time to sit here all day... like some.. so, it's not a good use of my time....I shouldn't HAVE to stay on here all day, it aint putting no dinner on my table either. :o/
Rob, some of it might be when you post. I didn't see this before because I was on my way into work, and a lot of the west coast US might not have even been up or on the computer yet... No on is saying you have to stay on FF all day, but when your interaction level goes down and all you're doing is feeding information in, it feels kinda pointless to comment on it because I never know when or if you'll be here to see the comment.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
A tenner says this post gets huge views and comments. Irony, thy name is Friendfeed.
- Philip Tomlinson
Strange that the medium is blamed - maybe it is the message that is the problem?
- Brian Sullivan
Hmmm, it took me a while to get comments and likes too, you've just got to make sure you're putting things up which reflect what you're interested in. Be true to yourself, and people will see that, and join in.
- Iain Baker
++Brian. Rob it seems that you are much more active on twitter. you cannot expect to have 98% activity on twitter and get an appropriate response on FF based on ~2%. unfortunately, one needs to be active on FF to get the reactions you expect on FF. Frankly you are not saying much here.
- Carlos Ayala
like I said.. I hadn't had the chance to spend lots of time here or anything recently.. and pop in.. and see nothing gets commented on or liked... where as a while ago I spent alot of time interacting here and it was worth it, I got a response, my point is I have to be here to make it even worth while, and that aint gonna feed me because I don't look at places like this as something to monetise.. but TIME is valuable..
- Rob Sellen :o)
carlos.. I have been active here too.. like I said above.. I have been TESTING what I am talking about... this is my conclusion. TIME spent here if you have no income other than what you do online is wasted.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Phillip... you are right, this will get attention... anything about friendfeed will... so do I have to post solely about this place to get any reaction?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob -- if you post only to get a "reaction" you will fail.
- Brian Sullivan
Brian.. I don't post to ONLY get a reaction... where did I say that? I asked if this place was what you HAD to post about to get any reaction? What is the point of posting, sharing ANYTHING if no-one takes notice?
- Rob Sellen :o)
there are people who NEVER come here yet everything they import to here gets reactions, comments, likes..etc.. why? cos of WHO it is? not what they share...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Because they're popular elsewhere on the web. A-listers as it were
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yeah i understand that.... so so are we supposed to try to be as popular?
- Rob Sellen :o)
That's a personal choice, Rob. Some people are here just to aggregate the stuff they do elsewhere on the web and choose to not interact with the community here. Others choose to interact with the community here and couldn't care less about the aggregation capability. It's about deciding what you want out of it and the figuring out the way to reach that goal.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That was the point of me posting this comment after I been testing things ;o) see Tina, YOU are popular here, you are here alot... maybe you have a job elsewhere etc, other income, so you can spend lots of time here.. I don't, IF I had all day to spend here, without worrying about it, I can say I would be getting 10x's better results... but I don't. so like I said, have to make a choice.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Don't compare yourself to others, the point is to have useful conversations, or find new things or... If you are not getting value out of FF then perhaps some other platform might have a better mix, but if you are getting value don't demean it just because some other people "can fart and get likes". Who cares? Most of what I post sinks without a trace, or has a like from the same small...
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- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I am not comparing myself with anyone, just saying as example... Tina uses this place SPOT on IMO... and how I would use it if I was here alot. I know the point is to have useful conversations... BUT that means I have to BE here to do that.... TIME again is the thing. Don't get me wrong I think this place IS a great place.. just not a GOOD use of time.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: Looking back over your timeline, it seems like you might get more engagement in general... whether here or on Twitter or whether... with a bit more descriptive entries. I see a couple entries today like "http://robsellen.com/2009... <<< new post.... ;o)" and "who sells it? http://www.gsk.com/ << http://www.gsk.com/investo... <<< READ!!! anon investers?" Those don't really say what the posts are about, and without some explanation of why somebody should read them, I can understand folks might skip them.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken... I see what you mean... but then, my twitter followers who TAKE notice of my tweets know what I meant, although I am taking your point on board there.. ;o) I am starting to think it's NOT a good idea to have twitter feed into the home page here if active alot on twitter
- Rob Sellen :o)
Also... ken.. what you JUST posted is probably more important than any other stuff on here today.... meaning the links you point out I posted ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
PS.. some of us..ahem.. are just figuring out FF.. so remember there are newbies out there who don't even realize commenting here/liking is even what you are supposed to do.. I kind of view FF as a jumping off point combining facebook/twittter etc... ya know?
- Carissa
FF is rather unique - each person ends up with their own experiences based on who their subscriptions and who subscribes to them. My experiences changed dramatically over the last 2 months because I found a variety of people out there - and not just the geeks chatting up themselves -
- LPH™ and his dog P™
After reading everyone's comments to you Rob - I have one more serious statement. You have more comments and likes than most people on here but your subscriptions are low http://www.ffholic.com/Search...
- LPH™ and his dog P™
that is the the one true thing, everyone has a unique experience. well.. I will just have to use the time better, and work with it, not against it. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob: I understand exactly where you're coming from... I came over to FF specifically for interaction and connection, but rarely get any comments or likes on things I post or share. People are subscribed to me, but probably have me on hide or in a non-monitored list. I follow the techy people b/c I love them & want to learn, but I don't know all the stuff they know, so I can't really interact on the tech topics
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
vice versa...things is.. is this a tech place or is it friendfeed? ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
My experience on FF started out as heavy into tech but as I branched out -- I rarely see the tech stuff any longer.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Sorry to read that you feel that way This is the place that I find and can engage in conversation on tech related topics that my real friends either have no interest in or knowledge of. It is sometimes hard to start the conversation myself probably because I am new here but, I can usually find someone else talking about topics that interest me if I search. Topical or Funny content seem to be conversation starters with the more frequent posters.
- Eric Logan
Eric... Each to their own isn't it mate. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
one thing I've noticed about my own posts: things posted to groups get more response than things only posted to my feed. looking at your feed it doesn't look like you post to groups that much.
- chrisofspades
never thought of it chris.... thanks for pointing that out. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I've tried repeatedly to get people over her to chat about Interior Decorating and other things besides tech topics, but have been unsuccessful :-( Plus I joined groups and many just have feeds going into the group room, but nobody interacts..
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Rob, my wife took a sign language class a few years ago in the Vancouver (BC) area. The instructor conveyed more than once that in her experience, the deaf community(ies) were very regional. Uniquely local signs (in-group language), mores & attitudes, and it took lots of effort to break into the deaf community of a new geographic area. It turned out that within a year she moved from...
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- Micah Wittman
Micah... thanks.. food for thought, not sure if it is like that though, who knows, though I don't sign, I get the drift of what you say, would be like me having issues with accents... but nevertheless you make a good point, human behaviour says alot to us about us.. :o) Off to chat to the mirror and sort this out!
- Rob Sellen :o)
Mirror thinks I ought to start being true to myself... and put a little more THOUGHT into what I do with my time, part of that is not contributing to polarising people on gun argument threads cos the gunny ones will never see the light! ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob, caught your statement about leaving FF from my Gmail account. I have my feed emailed to me in blocks of time instead of individual emails or being on here all day. That way I can do other stuff, but keep up w/interesting posts at the same time. I get the headlines of the posts in my emails so I can browse through each email in a few seconds, clicking on the interesting ones and...
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- Molly
Thanks molly.... now you have given me a great idea there with gmail.. had never thought about it.. how do you set that up?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rob, I personally enjoy your presence on FriendFeed. Your comments and input are appreciated. I do understand that "community" is forged by differences and diversity. The exchange of interesting information is important for growth. Thank You....
- bcultral
Rob, don't leave yet! I'm in Hawaii and miss all the good stuff being at the end of the time zones... what am I, like comment number 846?? No one sees my comments... but I'll write to you...wait... I better make sure I'm subscribed to you...
- Arleen Anderson
I validate the experience you are describing Rob. One way that I look at it is that FF is a great conversation tool - not just in technology, but that happens to be who is active here now... if you want to use it with people in your interest areas then you almost have to take it upon yourself to catalyze or develop that segment of the community - so that when your tribe comes here, they find you and they do receive interaction, support in their efforts, etc. Just saying. ;-)
- Holly Rae, FFer
Am I right in interpreting this as "I don't have the time to invest in this service to get out of it the benefits I see others getting"?
- Johnny Worthington
I'm pretty sure you summed it up, Johnny. Sorry sir, the last train to QQville left hours ago.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Rob, you can set your FF up to get email from individuals you're subscribed to, subjects you're interested in, groups you like or 'my discussions'. Well, anything you're involved in on FF, in brief. Click on settings under your pic. It's all in there. I've set everything for email notification to help w/the noise. If you want instant notification of any particular subject, person, etc.....
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- Molly
Thanks guys... Jonny... NO I am not saying that, you are reading it that way.. I am saying I have to USE my time better, I don't have a "job" to allow me to sit and "chat" on here all day.... maybe you have, maybe not... that's your issue to sort, this is mine. what benefit are you saying others get I don't?
- Rob Sellen :o)
"I don't have the time to invest in this service" -> "I have to USE my time better, I don't have a "job" to allow me to sit and "chat" on here all day" / "to get out of it the benefits I see others getting" -> "shame really that others can fart here and people gobble it up..."
- Johnny Worthington
I actually sympathize with your position. FriendFeed takes effort and 'work' to get 'fart-reactions' you speak of.
- Johnny Worthington
Careful of the door, don't let it hit your ass on the way out.
- sofarsoShawn
if that's ya input sofarsoshawn.... keep it to yourself, thanks...
- Rob Sellen :o)
Ok, I never got this selfish going away way. If you intend to go - just go :D
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
grow up shawn...sasha... what's "selfish" about it? its MY time .... duh?
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think you need to grow up and not resort to childish posts like this one.
- Charlotte M
Well, obviously the purpose of this post was to get attention of caring and loving friendfeeders :) But you are right - nothing selfish :D
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
The purpose was to be HONEST about what I learnt from MY own experiences... that ok with you? No it's not selfish.. like I say it's MY time... I am being sensible...
- Rob Sellen :o)
I don't know, Rob, it seems to take time to develop virtual relationships with people who don't know you from Adam.
- Rick Cogley
Hahahhahaa, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
- sofarsoShawn
This happens for a variety of reasons, all of which are due to a poor design on Twitter. First, a block doesn't remove people from search. Second, I should be able to set the trending topics, Twitter shouldn't choose those for me. Twitter is too enamored with popularity. Popularity is often the WORST way to decide what to display. Third, there's no decentralized moderation system, like there is on friendfeed. Fourth, there's no metadata, so you can't say "don't show me things that don't have a like."
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Maybe you should stop using Twitter, Robert. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
Chris: I'm using it less and less, believe me. I used to be hyper addicted to Twitter. Now I'm seeing more and more people joining me over on friendfeed. I don't think that's due to an accident.
- Robert Scoble
Is the velocity of innovation increasing exponentially? Will friendfeed be out done by something new? Are we doomed to mediocrity stuck in mud upon popularity? What model could foresee and adapt?
- Eric Standlee
Well Robert, I never got into Twitter mainly because of how hard it was to follow a conversation. The more I use friendfeed I like it more and more its easy to jump in or just follow the context of a conversation without having to bounce to each persons twitter site... or maybe I was just using it wrong.
- Nathan McClain
i kinda dug the obscurity of following twitter conversations. it was different than outright plain broadcasts to the world, and you could manually choose not to follow certain 'threaded' topics by not clicking on them. these attacks were bound to happen considering the numbers of ab-users that have joined thinking up 'maven' or 'guru' ways on exploiting said technology for their own nefarious goals.
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
Re: setting trending topics - you can default the trending topics list to be minimized and just add your own custom saved searches. Isn't that essentially the same as setting your own topics, as long as you update them?
- Philip Tomlinson
Eric: I don't know about increasing innovation, but this has been going on since the 1980s. Back then I used to be on a BBS. I left that for AOL, Prodigy, CompuService. I left those for Usenet. I left that for blogs. I left blogs for Twitter (mostly). I am now in the process of leaving Twitter for friendfeed. Will there be something after friendfeed? Yes.
- Robert Scoble
In the words of Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins "Twitter becoming an MLM and spam cesspool"
- Ciro
Twitter is still a fascinating message bus, not a destination, for the reasons you say. FF isn't quite the message conduit that Twitter is, as it's a hybrid communication conduit (responses here, for example), and aggregator. Twitter is still an exemplarary, *pure*, communication bus - like IRC.
- Dave Mee
spam is bad obviously, but i must admit i am kind of enjoying the new mainstream twitter. one thing i have noticed for example is the hip hop community migrating from myspace to twitter. i can't see them coming to friendfeed, but who knows. Also while marketing gaming in annoying, its lovely to see people playing tag games at scale. trending manipulation for the masses is fun. hard to manage for sure. but to my mind good to see
- James
James: they will come when they figure out the power of rooms and the fact that you can play music right in line here.
- Robert Scoble
I don't see anything surpassing FriendFeed as the optimal place to socialize online in the next couple years, unless keyboards/monitors get replaced with some other interface.
- Bruce Lewis
holy jebus Robert that really is real time. i have *never* had a comment back in any medium that fast, even IM.
- James
In the absence of trust and recommendation systems metadata such as liking would still be prone to attack.
- Mike Chelen
Mike, that's true for search, but for your main feed your social network protects you from that sort of thing.
- Bruce Lewis
Bruce, the source of the trending topics problem is that they are unaffected by the user's selection of friends
- Mike Chelen
I see what you're saying, Mike. I wasn't thinking about that, since I only care about trending topics my friends find interesting. If you're in a position where you have to watch general trending topics, I can see how there would be a challenge to weed out astroturfing.
- Bruce Lewis
It strikes me that part of the reason that Twitter is so popular is that it has become a lightning rod for so many good mobile and desktop apps. That's how Twitter has been able to rise above the spam and marketing noise as it has.
- Ed Moltzen
Ed: Twitter's API simplicity and the mobile and desktop apps are, indeed, a major part of its success. I really wonder how friendfeed is going to see anything close to that. If I were at friendfeed I'd focus a LOT of attention on mobile experiences. That's already where I probably spend 30% of my friendfeed time.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I think it's their biggest draw back at the moment. I have a hard time interacting with FF when I am not in front of a computer.
- Aaron Kurtz
Robert: I went through gopher, bbs, prodigy, aol, msn for awhile, usegroups, yahoogroups, blogs, twitter and friendfeed now as well as facebook. It would be fun to see these plotted on a timeline to see if it is accelerating. The change sure seems to be accelerating. Maybe reviewing the timeline we can predict the next one.
- Eric Standlee
Twitter shouldn't be a topic of conversation. It's just a waste of time. Twitter cares more about popularity than the community. One need to browse through their 'Suggested Users' to come to that conclusion. Why should Oprah matter more, considering she has absolutely nothing to contribute to the community other than attract digital fans? Discussing Twitter gives them exposure, which they deserve less and less by the day. My rock stars aren't like their rock stars (borrowed phrase)! http://tr.im/lLIk
- Moushumi Kabir
Mmm... my bar is my temple. I wish I could say that. The area in general looks awesome, too.
- Arlan Koizumi
It *is* nice, with its cobbled streets, meeting house square food market and some cool galleries as well as the Irish Film Institute. However the area is extremely touristy and can get very honkytonk sometimes, with big groups of stag and hen parties and piles of vomit in the corners. Locals tend to avoid Temple Bar on the weekend. If you want to drink with real Dubliners, it isn't the place to go. Still, some great shots!
- Philip Tomlinson
You here on vacation Jeff? Pity about the pissy weather we've been having. It was much better earlier in the week.
- Philip Tomlinson
I am in Dublin for work. I was in the UK earlier this week and the weather was much better than here... at least it's not too cold :)
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
Yeah - it's always very mild here even if it's wet. How long you in town for?
- Philip Tomlinson
Not too sure what your schedule is like, but here's a few suggestions of excellent bars and restaurants you might want to check out (coming in following comments):
- Philip Tomlinson