Phil Crissman - Likes

FriendFeed is the easiest way to share online. Learn more »

Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Apparently I'm now the "fuck twitter guy" !!! Awesome.

May 14 - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman, Joe Fry, mjc and 2 other people liked this

i'm jealous, :( - chaz2b

Robert Scoble

Yes, I am one of the 3%. I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "blame Scoble. He's technically difficult and weird." (Actually that was a Facebook employee who said that, but it fits here too).

May 14 - Comment - Like - Share

Daynah, Alexander Grundner, Ben and 19 other people liked this

Join the 3% Club. Tweet the hashtag #3% so everyone knows who we are. - Ryan Kuder

18 more comments

I already blame you for a number of things - http://seanreiser.com/node... - Bastard Operator From FF

We love you Robert ;) - Vlad Zabblotskyy

Link to something explaining the 3%? Google is useless :-( - Seth Blank

Will these t-shirts be for sale?! - Fred Garrett

Seth: http://bit.ly/vk3QC - Ryan Kuder

I was one of the 3% too. Will proudly wear the shirt. - Jared Smith

Love the #3% hashtag idea - Bailey McCann

3% of Twitter users is a lot, especially since they're probably the most active. Unlike the half of Twitterers that leave after one week #3% - Laaabaseball

Yes, I am definitely in the 3%. Thanks for the link Ryan! #fixreplies #3% ;-) - Seth Blank

I was one of the 3%. I'm surprised that number is so low considering how passionate everyone was about the change. Although, I encountered maaany people angry about it but didn't even know what the change was. - Lise

I am surprised it's that low, too. We sure are loud for 3%. I wonder what percentage we are of active users, though, as opposed to total signups? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

The bigger problem is that the 3% were the vast majority of the early adopters who helped increase twitter's value in the first place. - Seth Blank

Jandy: out of 1,000 people who visit Twitter, only 10% probably make ANY noise at all and probably only 10% of those (1%) are people like us. So, 3%? That's a LOT of noisy people! - Robert Scoble

Seth: and that's the deeper problem. Twitter doesn't care about early adopters anymore and have made several moves that communicate that. - Robert Scoble

If you are going to be at gnomedex, I have a friend who makes T-Shirts, need a cool graphic but I'll print them and bring them. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

I probably shouldn't... but I will. http://blamescoble.com/permali... - Phil Crissman

Will this work? http://friendfeed.com/jaredws... - Jared Smith

@jared - brilliant :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Is this the right assumption I answered a query just now. Or am I among the people who did not understand the change? "@beeebzzz This reply can not be seen by my followers who are not following you. If I understand it right" - Gunnar Engblom

AJ Batac

How Big Is the New Enterprise Compared to Galactica? - http://gizmodo.com/5253324...

May 14 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Felicia Yue, Ryan, bear (aka Mike Taylor) and 7 other people liked this

"725.35 meters. A whoppumental 2,379.75 feet. That's how big the new super-sized Enterprise is. Here you can see it compared against the Battlestar Galactica, the good old Enterprise, the Blockade Runner, and the ISS." - AJ Batac from Bookmarklet

Damon Cortesi

Overriding Rails to_param ?? - Stack Overflow - http://stackoverflow.com/questio...

May 3 from delicious - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman liked this

|| raise(ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound) - Damon Cortesi

Thomas Hawk

P021809PS-0069 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! - http://www.flickr.com/photos...

April 29 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

HealingBrush, Mitchell Tsai, Wayne Sutton and 140 other people liked this

I vote that the next time we need a photo of Air Force one that we just have Obama take it himself rather than spend $328,000. He seems to know his way around a Canon body with L series glass well enough. - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet

38 more comments

Yet another reason I didn't vote for him. He's not a Nikon man. - William Beem

hah, that's an awesome pic. - Blake Caldwell

It is partisan issue ... - Clarence Chiang

I always thought Democrats shot Canon while Republicans shot Nikon. - Thomas Hawk

We should all be about saving $$$$ in this economy! - Mike Andric

On a separate note, it is sort of cool that the White House has a Flickrstream. - Thomas Hawk

@thomashawk it's really fricking cool that the white house has a flickrstream - patrick

What he needs is for Canon to build him a lefty version. ;-) - Brian Sullivan

I shoot with my left eye like Obama. - Thomas Hawk

I don't squint when I take photos. Both eyes open. - Akiva Moskovitz

I squint and after a day of shooting, the right half of my face is sore from squinting all day. - Rochelle

Thomas: isnt he shooting with his right eye here...? may be u meant "...with left eye closed.." - Roshan Ramachandran

damn, you are right Roshan. I guess I'm not left eyed like Obama. - Thomas Hawk

Dems don't like Nikon. It's to close to Nixon. :D - ChiliMac

Canon > Nikon. - tabbr

I wonder if anyone has the guts to tell him that he needs to use his left hand to support the base of the cam to get less shake :) - Shivanand Velmurugan

*obligatory roll of the eyes to tabbr* - Anthony Citrano

So what do independents shoot? Pentax, Sony? - Jeff P. Henderson

At least he is looking through the correct opening in the camera, something I would not have expected from our previous president... ;-) - Jeff P. Henderson

Ashton Kutcher shoots Nikon. - tabbr

I may be completely off, but judging by the way he is holding that camera, I can't imagine it is his or that he has shot it much. He looks like he's trying to shoot a P&S. - Jeremy Kunz

He is holding it wrong. My guess is he would prefer to use the live view function but doesn't know how to turn it on. At least he isn't holding it back to front. - CJPhoto

tabbr, I don't think any1 cares what Ashton Kutcher shoots (ofcourse he does get paid for it - you have seen the ads right?). Jeremy, CJPhoto, he is the president for God's sake, not a photographer :) - Shivanand Velmurugan

Shivanand, you are right, and I'm not intending to knock him down, I'm just observing that I seldom see someone with a camera that is sporting a pro grade lens do that and I'm trying to guess why. I can hold a camera really well, but my pictures... well, that's another thing. - Jeremy Kunz

he didnt order the crazy photoop - Petr Buben

"I see cheezeburgerz" LOL - http://www.backtype.com/ricmaye... - Ric Mayer

Jeremy, most people who didn't learn to shoot with crappy lenses in dim situations with manual cameras, don't go through the rigour of maximising equipment. I bet, the resident photog of the whitehouse, should take it upon herself to educate Mr. president, so we can all enjoy pictures from the viewpoint of one of the great minds of our lifetime. - Shivanand Velmurugan

i think he's just goofing around here though. it's not his camera according to the caption. - Nathan Rein

If I were a graffiti artist I'd make a stencil out of this photograph and spray paint it everywhere. - Thomas Hawk

Anyone know what lens that is? Just curious. - Patrick Binder

I almost seem to remember a photo of Obama shooting with a photographers camera during the campaign. - Patrick Binder

Patrick: that's almost certainly a wide prime, either 24/1.4L or 35/1.4L. Probably the latter. - Gabe

Looks like the 85mm f 1.2 to me. - Thomas Hawk

that not an 85mm f1.2...unless my last copy was different and i am almost positive its not a 24mm 1.4 either. - Carlos Ayala

Carlos: You're right that it's clearly not an 85/1.2 (the AF switch in the photo is obviously different than either the original or II version), but I'm having a hard time convincing myself it's not the 24/1.4. - Gabe

@Gabe the reason i think its not the 24 is because of the distance of the red line and the top edge of the lens. now granted it could be the angle but it seems that the red line is further away (than the lens pictured) if it were a 24. too bad that there are no metadata/tags on this picture. - Carlos Ayala

Carlos, how would metadata help? - Gabe

cool! - Susan Beebe

Any idea if that 5D is a MkII? - Gabe

James Ferguson

I don't think I'm going to see any movies this summer. I'm just not that excited about Hollywood's offerings.

April 29 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Morton Fox and Phil Crissman liked this

Bought my Wolverine tickets today; it won't be great, but I want to verify that for myself - RAPatton

I'd like to see Wolverine, but I just don't care enough. I'm very "meh" about this summer's movie selection. - James Ferguson

500 Days of Summer interests me, but I will see most of the big ones in May. - RAPatton

Alex Scoble

How stupid is it that a school IT department blocks Wikipedia?

April 20 - Comment - Like - Share

Lou Paglia, Steven Perez, TiTi and 49 other people liked this

Let me count the ways..... - Roberto Bonini

50 more comments

Ideas are dangerous. Can't have too many of those all at once. People would get upset. - Jennifer Dittrich

why is there such a pushback from academia for wikipedia? i find it a better launchpad for any research i have to do than any other tool i've used before. - grant fox

School Districts usually go with the cheapest thing they can get to do the IT stuff.. usually its Idiots. - CW™

They should unblock Wikipedia but disable CTRL-C and CTRL-V. I do wonder how many papers get turned in that are just verbatim copies of Wikipedia articles these days, though. It's just too easy. - Victor Ganata

Victor, that wouldn't stop a student from cutting and pasting from Wikipedia at home. Plus there's no way for a web site to block use of CTRL-C unless it hands out data as pictures instead of text. - Alex Scoble

This is super dumb. Either a test is open book or closed. Otherwise, what's the difference where you get the info? Also, IT students should be doing projects, not submitting reports. - AC Delco

What school was it? Professional interest here. :-) - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Grant: Probably because they aren't the ones who put it together. - Greg Bishop

Elementary school. Probably shouldn't say more than that. - Alex Scoble

Thats a bit much. - Nicholas Kreidberg

Alex, no, I know I'm being silly. I'm wondering if a misguided attempt to prevent plagiarism is their rationale though, rather than outright censorship. Anyway, how else are kids supposed to learn how to hack computers if we don't give them enough of a challenge? :) - Victor Ganata

We'd actually have to provide them with computers first, Victor. :) That's what's stupid about this. The page is blocked on the teacher station. - Alex Scoble

Its more likely a filter that they bought from some company. If any form of Pornography is shown on a site or any keywords mentioned it gets blocked. Instead of intelligently going through the list and allowing some sites they do a default block and report to the School Board they are compliant. - CW™

I always tell kids to go to wikipedia to find reference lists. Where I'd never use it as a primary source it's a good place to find primary sources. - Bastard Operator From FF

@Grant, Academia is wary of wikipedia for several reasons. Primarily because many students don't use it as a launch pad for research but instead as the entirety of their research. It's a fine resource for learning the most basic aspects of a subject but its nowhere near the be all and end all of information. It also doesn't often link students to appropriate academic and/or professional resources which is problematic for students beyond elementary school. - Soup

You can't really link to most academic or professional resources because they charge money. Pointing to brick walls is pointless. - Alex Scoble

maybe it is to make sure they learn of about proxies and how to bypass filtering? - Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)

@Alex, why can't you link to them? Services like JSTOR and similar allow direct links, you just need to pay to see more than the first page (or be attached to a university with a subscription). EEBO and similar wouldn't be useful for linking of course, but some services would. - Soup

I agree, actually, since Wiki has collective sources on the bottom of the articles. It teaches critical thinking and learning to take in as much info, while scanning for quality/useful data. - Mona Nomura

I think it would depend on the service, Soup, but any service that presented a locked door instead of the contents would make it useless to link. - Alex Scoble

I think it's good practice to link to references though, even if you can only get the abstract for free. Academic publishing hasn't come to grips with the idea that information wants to be free yet, but the NIH and Pubmed are starting to really push that at least papers funded by our tax dollars should be readily available. - Victor Ganata

I completely agree that Wikipedia is the beginning of a journey in to gaining knowledge and not the ends, but my what a beginning that it is. - Alex Scoble

censorship sucks. - Thomas Hawk

There are excellent systems in place to keep cheating down that many educators use. It is probably more of the ivory tower syndrome, wikipedia is just not scholarly enough. Too many people can edit it, I have heard so many excuses, but little of practicle value in the longer run over the difference qualitatively of one system over another. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

Alex - you say that because we were raised in a generation where we naturally think. How many kids do you think it's the beginning? I would bet most start and stop there. - Mona Nomura

Yeah, but I would say that's the fault of the parents, not the kids. - Alex Scoble

Actually, if it's blocked on the *teacher's* computer, then it's almost certainly web filtering software with unintelligent filters in place. - Victor Ganata

It's also the school's responsibility to teach that as well. - Mona Nomura

Extremely. - Anthony Citrano

schools need to teach kids how to do research, and that getting all your information from one source is not research whether its Wikipedia or something else. Unfortunately that would take time, its just easier to block, problem solved (ok not really) - Kim Landwehr

I keep on pushing google scholar maybe some day my students will listen. Then again maybe not, it is up to them. Teachers should be telling the students what the expectations though on their papers are especially for research and who to use. - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

I'm finding that Pubmed and Google Scholar complement each other sometimes. While Pubmed is more definitive for what I'm looking for, sometimes it's actually easier to find things with Google Scholar - Victor Ganata

@Soup: absolutely true, but I would argue that kids were doing that with Encyclopedia Brittanica, MSN Encarta, etc. before wikipedia. it is the teacher/professor's responsibility to spot the difference between the two. I don't think wikipedia should be used as the only source for quality research and students should get penalized if they do so; but i think it's a shame that a school will ban it completely. - grant fox

It isn't stupid at all. Students need to learn about checking reputable sources, and not just googling for stuff online to find the answers to their questions. When I teach Grade 7 Library skills, I always tell the students that Wikipedia is a good place to start - but that's it. - cecily

Cecily +1 - grant fox

Alex, most students can access the databases their school library subscribes to from home. Those who can't get happily go to their local library, get a library card, and then use the multitudes of databases (that your taxpayer dollars pay for). Not only will the quality of their scholarship improve, but they'll actually learn something about building internet literacy skills while they're at it. - cecily

And for the record, I'm not one of those OH NOES THE INNERNETZ librarians. When I'm on the quick information desk, Wikipedia is my very best friend. But when I'm doing our live chat/homework help service, I only use databases. - cecily

I think you missed something of the discussion, Cecily. My fiance, a 3rd/4th grade teacher, could not quickly get access to necessary information (in this case where do rhino beetles live) because the IT department at her district had blocked either Wikipedia or Google or both (not sure which). This is completely lame. - Alex Scoble

No sympathy, Alex -- unless there's not a teacher/librarian on staff at that school. Pick up the phone. Most of us are bored out of our skulls and LOVE IT when people ask us questions. Why do you think I have all this time to be online every day? Because people "don't want to bother us". *groan* - cecily

A Scoble with that obstacle another hacker is born..long live hackers - Fred Grott

Guess what they don't have at that school, Cecily. - Alex Scoble

@Cecily - unless your profession is library science or some other realm of Acedemia then you DO need to know how to use Google to find the answers to your questions. Most people don't have time to go wading through paper in a library that is mostly out of date anyway to find the commity approved "right" answers to everything and kids need to learn to look at multiple sources online and decipher what is good information or not. There are reputable sources there too. - Lindsay

The reality is that most kids are going to live their information consuming lives online and figuring out how to do research THERE and figure out what is trustworthy THERE is a lot more important than how to find information in a book in the library that is reputable just by virtue of having been published. - Lindsay

Paper, Lindsay? The only time I touch paper in my daily job is if I'm drying my hands in the restroom. The databases I'm speaking of *are* online - they're just not free. And when it comes to building scholars - something many parents would do well to be concerned with - kids, parents, and teachers need to learn that all information is not *freely* available on the internet. At the very least, kids need to be given the critical thinking skills to be able to tell what's good information and what isn't. - cecily

Then your friend does have my sympathy, Alex. - cecily

Victor, you're right - sometimes it's easier to find things with Google Scholar than PubMed. I'm anxiously awaiting the day when all the content I have access to is as easy to find as it is to find stuff on Google. We're getting there, but not quickly enough. - cecily

@Grant, oh yes students were certainly using encyclopedias for the same reasons before. But that was also crap research then. The difference is that very few students had full encyclopedias at home but many, many more can (and do) use Wikipedia now. I don't think its an inherently bad service, but so many students walk into my lectures not realizing its limitations. Most disheartening. - Soup

I understand all of your frustrations but I don't think censorship on any scale solves the problem. censor the lewd and lascivious at the K-12 level, but beyond that the information floodgates should be open. there will always be students gaming the system (I MIGHT have done it on a few assignments I cared nothing about, allegedly) but I think the onus falls on the educator to enforce proper research methods. i may have went too tangential from Alex's original comment, sorry. - grant fox

@grant - defining lewd and lascivious has been a challenge for the brightest minds in US jurisprudence for generations; long before the web came along. we ought to err on the side of opennness. - Anthony Citrano

@Anthony: in regards to minors, i believe the "I know it when I see it" precedent is valid. - grant fox

Grant if only it were that simple (codifying such vagueness and accounting for interpersonal variation) - Anthony Citrano from BuddyFeed

Robert Scoble

Why Dominos video response at http://www.youtube.com/watch... is going to be textbook:

Why Dominos video response at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l6AJ49xNSQ is going to be textbook:

April 16 - Comment - Like - Share

Will DeLuca, Edward Zwart, HD Johnson and 157 other people liked this

1. They did it in video. THAT is the way to respond. Not text. Video says MUCH MORE than text can. - Robert Scoble

91 more comments

2. They went overboard with the response. They closed down the store and "sanitized it." - Robert Scoble

3. The CEO did it and repeated that nothing is more important that our trust. He demonstrated he understood the issue. - Robert Scoble

4. He thanked influencers for helping Dominos understand the issue and making sure that others knew about it. - Robert Scoble

5. He responded while the issue is still "hot." - Robert Scoble

6. He responded on YouTube, which is where the crisis started, not on their own video platform. - Robert Scoble

7. He communicated that there was "immediate" action including arrest warrants, and people getting fired. - Robert Scoble

Impressive. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

He didn't look straight into the camera, however - as pointed out by Steve Garfield. - l0ckergn0me

8. He knows that the real problem is that they hired idiots and are "reexamining" all hiring practices. THAT is the best way to make sure you get a good brand. - Robert Scoble

9. He used personal language "it sickens me." Not marketing speak. - Robert Scoble

Interesting mix of being apologetic and totally pissed at the same time. Overall thumbs up from me. - Mike Doeff

10. He is working to "regain our trust." - Robert Scoble

Is there anything else he could have done to answer this crisis? - Robert Scoble

He didn't offer us a coupon to make us feel better. I didn't feel condescended to. - Kevin Fox

Good lead, Robert. Glad to see discussion around the response. - Valeria Maltoni

Now if he could just work on making the pizza not taste so bad. - Dave Roth

now is the best time to go to Domino's in Conover. clean as a whistle. - nesman89

Fantastic job, I thought. - Matthew Freeman

Ok, so how bout some back ground? - Matthew DeVries

I don't mind that he didn't look straight into the camera. That shows he isn't "slick" or "overcoached." - Robert Scoble

Yes, it would have been better if he had looked into the camera, but given that a teleprompter is an expensive item, and rigging a two-way mirror with a magnified view of a printed script is a hassle... I think the minor shortfall can be forgiven. All seven of Robert's points remain absolutely valid. - David Muir

Matthew: Here's the background: http://beta.friendfeed.com/thomash... - Robert Scoble

Textbook is the best way to go. Swift and done. Now in time, people will forget, crave cheap, fast, and delivered food, and it's over. - Mike Lewis

Very well handled. I agree with you, Robert, this will make its way into textbooks alongside Tylenol's response to the poisoning crisis three decades ago. - Stephen Mack

Matthew: I already posted a link to the background. http://beta.friendfeed.com/thomash... - Robert Scoble

Or here if you wanna go straight to the source: http://consumerist.com/5210648... - Stephen Mack

They just taught a lot of clueless PR people how to handle a crisis like this. Well done. - Inside Alaska

I think theyve been handling this like pros from the getgo. Good job - Rasmus Lauridsen

Pretty slick. Many can learn from it. - Katie Dob

The woman is also a registered sex offender apparently: http://ncfindoffender.com/details... - Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕

so far this year, that's, what, rats in the peanuts, perchlorate in the babby formula, prescription drugs in the drinking water, snot in the pizza... what was safe to ingest again? - Karim

Bravo, Dominos. Nicely done. Speak up or be spoken for. - kevin j higgins

But he's using a teleprompter. He's evil. - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

tehKenny: I don't think he was. I bet that he was looking at some notes, though. It didn't come across like he was reading. For someone not experienced with a teleprompter you can not use one and not come across like you're reading. - Robert Scoble

Their response was appropriate and in a timely manner which is key now. - Christi

Anyone who has ever used a teleprompter realizes how hard it is to use one and how hard it is to look natural doing it. I bet he had someone off to the side of the camera he was talking to who was holding notes up to remind him what to talk. - Robert Scoble

I wasn't there, obviously, but watching the CEO look off-camera yet speak as if to a person made me think he was looking at a person to stay "real" and "personable" and not canned or offering a performance. - Bloom Seed

It's just pizza - Ari Braginsky

Carmen: "W" had a LOT of media training and a team of people to tell him how to do it. I doubt this CEO has had much media training. - Robert Scoble

rewatching it makes it clear that he's reading notes (his focus starts at top, moves down as recording proceeds). Still, though, comes across as a real person. Not everything needs professional actors, producers, makeup, sets...imperfect may be the new perfect, as far as communicating genuineness. - Bloom Seed

Comes across as very heart-felt, and almost makes me want to order with them (I'm not sure we have them here in this town)! Shouldn't they have added something like "We'll now be installing cams in all our kitchens streaming direct to Ustream, making us the ONLY food delivery you can trust to not mess your food"? :) - Philipp Lenssen

Philipp: well, that would certainly be cool but would be way beyond something they could deliver on in two days. - Robert Scoble

I mean, I'm not a big fan of Dominos, but this helps them establish themselves as giving a crap. Good PR move. - Mike Nayyar

Great video response straight from the company president. As for watching food getting prepared, the Papa John's locations that I've been to are open and you can basically see them making your pie. Not sure if Domino's has stores like that... - Doug

Carmen, it's the "polished" vs "timely" tug of war: http://fftogo.com/e... - Bruce Lewis from fftogo

solid performance-- came across naturally and believable, blend of professionalism and good ole fashion ass-kicking anger. It was smooth but not overly slick; no suit or tie and shot in store surrounding. Content was solid too, assuring customers everything that could be done was being done. One minor tweak: he doesn't appear to be looking directly at the camera. - mark ivey

I wonder if they thought about making it a response to "that video" on youtube to get the eyeballs needed to make this count.. - Tom Masiero

Ari - it's more than "just pizza" - it's the livelihood of 125k employees. We are focused here on a textbook response, but this is also a clear demonstration of the power of leverage that SM holds: two idiots can do major damage to the brand, the company, and by ultimately to the employees. Hat's off to Mr. Doyle and his advisers. - Bill Sanders

good response for sure, way to go - sean percival

Rewatched it and yes he is reading it. Regardless, I think it was handled pretty appropriately. - Jay Neff

good job. small nit: next time they need to move the teleprompter (or cue cards) either over or under the camera. - MikeAmundsen

Video is good if Good Messenger (which Domino's guy IS) But also put the incident on my radar screen, which hitherto I was unaware of. - JimmyJet

Wasn't aware of the incident but sure feel bad for the independent operator.. - MiaD

The woman in the Wendy's chili fraud case ended up sentenced to 9 years in prison and her husband (who bought the finger off a co-worker who lost it in an industrial accident) got 12 years. http://www.bluemaumau.org/wendys_... - Kevin Fox

I wish that he was looking at the camera instead of a telepromter. Just sayin. - Andrew Baron

Andrew: he's not looking at a teleprompter. I bet someone is holding a notepad with an outline on it for him. - Robert Scoble

I haven't had Domino's in a long time. But, I'm happy to see that they put up this Video response to the malicious destruction of their Brand and business practices. - rob friedman

good job. that was a classy way to 'avoid the noid.' - grant fox

Hey Robert, can I use some of your reasons in a blog post in writing up about the Domino's issue? - Kenneth

Kenneth: yes, feel free! - Robert Scoble

Thanks Robert! - Kenneth

"Everyone else is doing it right." Yeah, right. [What are the odds of that?] - Craig Brownell

I kept hoping he'd actually look into the camera. - James Miao

I agree with James. I was hoping that he would look at the camera like he's talking to his customers. I get that he needs to make sure he says exactly what needs to to said, but the way he kept looking away from the camera made it seem a little "stiff". - Kenneth

like when dirk diggler looked into the camera during his documentary. that was powerful stuff. - grant fox

Kenneth: that's a mistake someone who isn't media trained makes. I actually don't mind that because it makes it less slick. - Robert Scoble

My guess is that they're multiple cameras and he's looking at the expensive one - Bwana ☠

Robert: Really? If corporate heads are on camera, they should NOT look at the camera especially if they're not being interviewed? It looks natural not to look at the camera? You're definitely right...I'm not media trained. :) Looks like he was reading off of a script and didn't notice a camera at him. - Kenneth

Who was he talking to? The sound guy holding the microphone to the right of the camera? - Diego Barros 

Kenneth: the only time you should look at the camera is when you want to speak directly to the viewer. You are right that he should have been speaking directly into the camera. Knowing where to look is part of media training. A good PR team could have helped (IE, one that had worked a lot with video before) but I can't really blame him. I still have trouble figuring this out. When I was on the BBC it was very difficult to look into the camera (it was aplate on the wall). - Robert Scoble

i just have to say, that by him not looking in the camera, or really doing any of this before it seems adds to his character that he's a regular guy, not some PR trained monkey doing a dance for us. - rob friedman

I dunno, I think it's more important that the response seem unrehearsed. I'll bet he did it in one take. - Ken Morley

Well done Robert: not a surprise to see this crew recognizes excellence when they see it. Dominos did virtually everything right on this aspect of its response. having seen a few crises, this example is among the best. blogged it here: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post... - Christian Anderson

Just to let folks know: the teleprompters I am familiar with allow the newscaster or talking head to look directly at the camera AND read the script. The result is like a HUD (heads-up display) for those familiar with video games or jet fighters. - David Muir

Right David, but there are all kinds of "teleprompters" some low tech and some higher tech. the point is he was reading. It was okay, he did a great job in one take. It would have been better if he hadnt read it and looked directly at the camera, but because everything else was so well done, the reading gets a pass - Christian Anderson

Not a fan of their pies, but kudos to Dominoes for the forthright reply and apology for the miscreants who brought this upon them. Hope they rebound well from this. - JA Castillo

Definitely a canned response but still heartfelt and sincere. Plus we learned its a federal felony to stuff cheese up your nose on camera. Imagine what happens at McDonalds on a daily basis - now that's frightening. - Chris Sparno

Very lucky that they had a CEO that even was willing to talk for YouTube in the moment; let's not now criticize him for his media training, or none will ever have the guts to do it again. - Francine Hardaway

Rich: This is deadly serious for him. He's right to take it seriously and I'm sure he genuinely does. - Michael Krigsman

So the real question is, who feels comfortable enough to order Domino's this weekend? - Chris Bartow

I do Chris, even more-so now than before. This weekend will be the cleanest in the franchise's history :) - Bwana ☠

@Karim: "snot in the pizza... what was safe to ingest again?" Years ago, I ordered a pizza (not from Domino's) and was surprised to see a piece of broken glass in it — and this particular glass shard had part of the pizza company logo on it! When I phoned them about it, they replaced the pizza in record time; of course, they asked for the broken glass back, too, so I couldn't keep the evidence. - Victor Panlilio

Victor *shudder* i think i would have just given up eating pizza after that :-D - Karim

The comments on You Tube are negative I don't agree with them, what is your opinion abut them? (They say Doyle is not sincere) - Maurizio Goetz

Rule #0 - Youtube comments have the value of a single molecule of feces - Bwana ☠

+1 Bwana!! - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

His response was right on and pretty smart for doing it via a video. It's sad but we are at the mercy of people that prepare our food. :-( I kind of feel bad for the kids because what they did shows a complete lack of intelligence. It would be nice if they took responsible and apologized in some sort of public forum. - John McCullough

@John McCullough "we are at the mercy of people that prepare our food" and people who pilot the planes we fly in, treat our municipal drinking water, etc. I daresay we only appreciate them when things go horribly wrong. - Victor Panlilio

@Chris White "The founder of Domino's supports Right to LIfe and Operation Rescue, which IMO, is worse than putting farts on sandwiches" Really? Watch the video at http://www.abortionno.org/ and see if you can stomach the idea that we dispose of unwanted human beings so cavalierly. - Victor Panlilio

Victor, your comment as well as John's above you, reminds me of that line in Fight Club: "We do your laundry, cook your food and serve you dinner. We guard you while you sleep. We drive your ambulances..." - Aaron Kurtz

@Aaron - almost everything we take for granted in "civilized society" depends on the everyday goodwill (and conscientiousness) of anonymous others. I've always thought that we need to become more mindful of the benefits we daily receive from these enablers of our well-being. Count your blessings, etc. - Victor Panlilio

Victor, I couldn't agree more. - Aaron Kurtz

Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

The Ten Most Influential Films of The Last Ten Years | /Film - http://www.slashfilm.com/2009...

April 16 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Jessica, mjc, OnuRC and 64 other people liked this

"The task is ridiculous, because its hard to predict the long term effects of the films that were released in the last decade (espeically ones released in the last couple years), but Brendon did a pretty good job. It should be noted that Brendon’s list is more skewed towards advances in filmmaking and storytelling which influenced and changed the future of cinema, rather than movies that influenced the culture." - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF from Bookmarklet

46 more comments

That's... quite a list. - David Young

the ten most influential AMERICAN films. and even then a few of those are a reach - Cee Bee

Wow...a LOT of these are a reach. Coraline? Really? Rushmore? Really? Sky Captain? REALLY? - Mike Nayyar

Sky Captain threw me for a loop, too. He's definitely on to something with My Big Fat Greek Wedding and The 40-Year-Old Virgin, though. And I can see what he's saying about Rushmore, though - there's a ton of Anderson-esque quirky comedy-dramas out there these days (just look at a Sundance program). - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

i applaud the effort...of making a terrible list. - grant fox

The _sequel_ to the Bourne Identity, which was acknowledged as setting the style for its successors? Really, Slashfilm, that's what you want to call 'most influential'? Why not just admit your ten year limit was BS? - Andrew C

I'm surprised he picked Bourne Ultimatum, but I'm not surprised he picked one of the Greengrass-directed films rather than the Liman-directed one, if he was gonna pick a Bourne film. Supremacy and Ultimatum pushed the frenetic editing and shakicam way further than Identity did, IIRC, and that's the trend he's crediting it with. The ten year limit was a challenge from /Film's editor after TCM's 15 Most Influential Films list yesterday (it's newest film was Star Wars). - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Reading /why/ he picked Ultimatum actually made me nod. What I like about this list is the reasons give match the "Influential" theme. And much better than the previous lists of the last few of days, imo. - Michael W. May

Jandy, OK. And I can see where Turner Classic Movies might have an old movie bias. Still, if the newest movie on TCM's list is 32 years old, there's even less reason to leave out 22 years of film history. - Andrew C

The last ten years are where he felt comfortable addressing. If you feel there is a hole to fill, fill it ;) - Michael W. May

Haven't thought hard about it. Off the top of my head, there should be a category for vastest amount of shameless tie-in merchandising, which might go to 1989's Batman. - Andrew C

I was thinking Batman for kick starting the modern Comic Book film (more so than Superman, methinks). Star Wars takes the merchandising title, has to... - Michael W. May

Sure, over the life of the franchise. But for an all-out, short-lived merchandising push immediately surrounding the box office release, I think Batman. - Andrew C

I do think it's odd there are no foreign films on there. That's an oversight for sure. And Andrew, yeah. The last 30 years would've been a better time frame for a response to TCM. Some people in /Film's comments were mentioning Spider-Man as the comic book film starter. I might agree, since even though there were comic book films in the '90s following Burton's Batman, they weren't taken as seriously as they have been since Spider-Man. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

And Abby, not top ten BEST, top ten INFLUENTIAL - he's crediting My Big Fat Greek Wedding as the first indie film that became a blockbuster, and started the whole indiewood trend that's HUGE right now - crossover stuff like Juno, Little Miss Sunshine, etc, probably wouldn't exist without it. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Jandy, you seem well-versed and passionate about movies. I'd like to know if you have a revised list. I think Fight Club should've made the list, Fincher did a bang-up job and it enabled a lot of movies of a similar fashion. - grant fox

I'd like to see Jandy and Abby's lists. *edit* NPR spelling corrected - Michael W. May

I think this list would be impossibly hard, which is what makes it so much fun to talk about. I'll see if I can work something up, but his reasoning is fairly good based on the criteria he's using. And I'd have no chance at the 1977-now list, because my '80s movie knowledge is crap. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

What would be the most influential foreign film in the US, either for style or substance or even for driving distributors and theater owners to give other foreign films more of a chance? (foreign but English language films don't count as much, unless they're extremely 'foreign'...) I'd guess Amelie off the top of my head. - Andrew C

Oh, and documentary. (Roger & Me? March of the Penguins? Something else?) - Andrew C

does Life Is Beautiful make the cut for foreign? - grant fox

Amelie, yeah. And Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, probably - for bringing lyrical martial arts into a more mainstream position. That type of fighting pretty much permeates action films these days. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

I'd say that the Star Wars 1, 2 and 3 movies were influential...for how to totally ruin a movie franchise. - Alex Scoble

I wouldn't cite CTHD for bringing fight choreographer Yuen Woo-Ping's style to the US, not when the Matrix hired him too and came out a year earlier... - Andrew C

hmm... But CTHD showcased it, not as a gimmick, but as a cinematic style, opening mainstream Western eyes to a slew of Hong Kong cinema gems. Which was nice since the film was an homage to all those before it. - Michael W. May

Good point, Andrew. You're right. MWM is also right, but I'm not sure how much the use of that fighting style as an overarching cinematic style (the way CTHD used it) has influenced world-wide filmmaking. Most of the films that use it in a holistic manner are still Chinese - like Zhang Yimou's action films. American films tend to use it the way The Matrix did - as cool-looking stunts. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Well, it allowed House of Flying Daggers to get made for which I am eternally grateful :P - Michael W. May

Hehe. Which is a Zhang Yimou film. ;) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

The chain of influence: CTHD begets Hero, HOFD, and Curse of the Golden Flower (not a great flick IMO), which together probably led to Zhang getting the job of opening and closing ceremonies for the 2008 Olympics. - Andrew C

Speaking just about HK films, there are a couple that are hugely influential. John Woo's "A Better Tomorrow" reignited Chow Yun-Fat's career and basically started the 'heroic bloodshed' genre. (And those went on to inspire American filmmakers). One of Jackie Chan's early films (I'm told) got out of the whole 'ancient China' genre most kung fu flicks were set in, and set the tone for many that followed. - Andrew C

I came up with the following list: The Matrix, Shrek, Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, The Transporter, Ek Chhotisi Love Story, Gwoemul, Lola rennt, Spiderman, American Pie, Avalon. But sadly, Lola rennt is one year too old. Anyway, I really think Spiderman is the one responsible for the super-hero movie trend we're going through. - Brome

Shrek? Why Shrek? - Andrew C

Because Shrek was not only destined to a young audience, but also quite suitable for adults. Plus it had more sequels than Snow White or The Lion King. ;) - Brome

Okay, I guess, but Toy Story did all that, and came before. (did any animated movies before Toy Story use big names? And come to think of it, I'm told Tim Allen was only a medium TV star and Tom Hanks was only medium big at the time he was signed and did the recording for Toy Story.) - Andrew C

Akira needs to go on this list. As well as just about every Miyazaki movie ever made. They completely blow away preconceptions of what you can do with animation. - Alex Scoble

Yeah...sorry but there hasn't been an influential film made in the last 10 years, unless by influential you mean all the films that have come out showing how not to make a film. - Alex Scoble

Yep, Jason... and even Ghost in the Shell is 14 years old. On the other hand, Appleseed is a 2004 movie so it could fit in the list. - Brome

Yeah, but Appleseed the 2004 movie is a remake of a TV series. - Alex Scoble

True, but the series didn't use the CGI technique of the movie. Which is what I think makes the movie influential, because if you think about it, there are not that many japanese movies that make use of 3D/CGI like Appleseed did. Actually, Appleseed is the only one I can think of right now. But I'm pretty sure more will come. - Brome

Lots of anime movies have used CGI, but yeah, 3D? Not so much. - Alex Scoble

Rushmore? Last ten years? So it's a flexible ten years? - Andy Bakun

Andy, heh, yeah. I think that means we can use Lola Rennt, too. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Very nice list. His reasons are a lot more convincing (and technical) than usual on best-of lists. - j1m

No comment. And goodnight all. - Mike Reynolds

The Harry Potter series is truly influential from a business perspective. After the success of the first movie, every other major studio said "Crap. we gotta get ourselves a franchise we can milk 3-7 movies out of!". And thus, Narnia, Golden Compass, Eragon were made, maybe others I can't think of... - Andrew C

Paul, that's sort of what makes the list interesting. No one would argue that these are the best films of the past ten years; several of them are pretty terrible. But each of them did something first that seems to be influential in the film industry, either in use of technology, exploration of narrative structure, or the film business in general. Andrew, good call with the HP series - everyone really has tried to jump on that bandwagon, huh? - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

This list reminds me of; Opinions are like a@$holes....you know the rest! - Michael Fidler

Jeremiah Owyang

To all you friendfeeders who tell me to create lists and filters: No! I'm busy and therefore lazy. I want a system that will learn from me, rather than me having to teach it. What say you?

April 15 - Comment - Like - Share

Tom Wentworth, Drew Lucas, Mike Elliott and 93 other people liked this

friendfeed is not the system you seek. - Alex Scoble

85 more comments

I slightly mean this in jest, but as a reaction to the comments in here http://friendfeed.com/e... - Jeremiah Owyang

I agree, actually. - Helen Sventitsky

Jeremiah you're just lazy ;-) - Jesse Stay

Jeremiah: I just want to share my lists with you. That way I can do the hard work and you can be lazy. :-) - Robert Scoble

jeremiah - i started w/ lists when they first were offered by friendfeed awhile ago, i view it as one of its strongest features, great way to categorization those whose presence you follow, then i drop in and out of interactivity based on my availability :) - mike "glemak" dunn

robert - it would be nice to share lists, i also miss the ability to expand lists which went away in the beta - mike "glemak" dunn

mike: all the old features better come back before they move the beta over to the real site. I am finding some of these little missing things very frustrating. - Robert Scoble

I'm still not using lists. Filters are great, and very easy. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

That's why I'm using filters that other people have created. I don't have to do the work, and I still get to use it. - Elizabeth Parmeter

The problem then would be that you, or others, would complain that the system is "learning incorrectly" and giving you what you don't want. A little effort is always necessary to achieve refined customization. - Nathan Chase

Eric: the best thing I ever did here was create a list. The signal level there is 100x better than my "everyone" list. - Robert Scoble

I don't understand: if anyone else were making this statement, or if it were about anything else (say, email and folders) no one would be offering to make his email folders for him. No one would say email should learn from him. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

FF does learn from you; that's what FoF is; but to expect it to do it all independent of effort (or even at least trying prepackaged filters)???? I suppose some people really are fans of getting exercise vicariously too, but I don't understand them either. - David HC Soul

Jeremiah, Facebook's old model did this. It quasi-intelligently took many variables into account (many of them user-tweakable through customization) and displayed the old (pre-Friendfeed clone) Home page... taking into account the things users liked, disliked, geographic regions, and I'm sure many other factors that are undisclosed. Yet, Facebook (for the worse, IMHO) has abandoned this model in favor of the "drink from the fire hose" model of twitter. - tollie williams

I'm too lazy to read all the comments. Scoble will you summarize? - Jeremiah Owyang

Didn't Facebook try that once? - Jesse Stay

Owyang: Do you have a toilet integrated with your lazy-boy, by chance? - coldbrew

Coldbrew, if you revealed your real name, do you think your attitude will change to a non-sucky one? You're really rude. - Mona Nomura

Johnny Worthington's consulting services are required here. He educated me on these manners. I now have a pretty decent system going! - Mike Nayyar

But the point is, list / filter creations should not be complicated. Most users are too lazy. And I agree with Jeremiah. - Mona Nomura

<- Frustrated that this thread is rehashing the first thread. Building a sub list and [Like]ing items is plenty of effort in and of itself to inform a BoD list. The current FF "lists" feature is great but doesn't need to be a prerequisite for useful Best of Day content. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Daniel - I didn't understand any of that LOL - Mona Nomura

Mona - Jeremiah doesn't want to do *more* work (i.e. creating lists). He's already implicitly agreed to the work of subscribing to FFers and clicking [Like] on the occasional FF item. That body of work should be more than enough for an intelligent FriendFeed Best of Day recommendation engine to give him the news he needs. Lists are great for completely separate reasons and while they provide a workaround to the Best of Day problem they are not an excuse for shortcomings of the Best of Day page. - Daniel J. Pritchett

I totally agree. You are lazy. - AJ Batac

Seriously, you are looking for something like a complex learning algorithm similar to Amazon's recommendation engine - AJ Batac

FTR I agree with Jeremiah as well. I'm just playing devils advocate. Jeremiah is the least lazy of almost anyone I know. - Jesse Stay

It's not an easy problem AJ, just an obvious one. Surely you think Paul et al are up to the task... - Daniel J. Pritchett

I agree, but I seem to be in a minority. I think people should be categorized for me. Either by the system or my their own choosing. If I disagree with where they put themselves, I can make modifications after the fact. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Daniel, agree. I'm sure Paul and team are up to the task. But this takes time. - AJ Batac

well I want a Ferrari , but I think both of us are pretty much out of luck - Kim Landwehr

It also kinda sucks that Jeremiah had to start a new thread to refresh the discussion spawned by the old one. The vastly longer discussions enabled by the beta interface are quickly exposing the weak points in the single-thread conversation UI we're given. - Daniel J. Pritchett

It's way too much to sift through, frankly. - Mona Nomura

coldbrew, right. and i have the fridge and microwave next to me so i NEVER have to move. - Jeremiah Owyang

Mona: If you weren't so full of yourself do you think you might be able to understand that some people appreciate some separation between public and private lives? My point was that lazy_as_a_lifestyle has a point at which it becomes ridiculous, what my username is irrelevant no matter what you write. Sorry I can't conform to your way of doing things. Let me guess, I'm using FF incorrectly? - coldbrew

Owyang: Awesome! Have you seen the Homer Simpson trick of how to get your beer to you from the other end of the coffee table? - coldbrew

Coldbrew: I gives you a hug. *jeremiah hugs coldbrew*. :) Btw, I really need a cold brew! *jeremiah reaches over from lazy boy to fridge* - Jeremiah Owyang

Brew: (since you call me "owyang") no, send me URL to hopefully a youtube video of said Homer trick. - Jeremiah Owyang

Jeremiah working from home: http://haacked.com/images... (I kid, I kid!) - Daniel J. Pritchett

Daniel, no THIS is me working at home http://fotosa.ru/stock_p... - Jeremiah Owyang

I think it's a rare case that Jeremiah even gets to be at home. - Jesse Stay

While I have no problems creating lists etc, I do agree that FF (or any such tool) ought to be able to start getting intelligent about what i like based on the metadata that I leave on the site - Anand Sharma

I'd like to think a learn filter could be helpful, but I wonder how well that works on scale, Facebook certainly fails on their new friend recommendations as it auto assumes I want to fan what my friends have fanned. - Patrick Boegel

Facebook also fails to remember when I tell it once that I really don't want to friend this person it's suggesting. Why do I even bother clicking if it's just going to come back next session? What happens when I up/downvote sidebar ads? They're training me to do all of this crap but I see no persistent results that I can directly connect to my actions. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Agreed Daniel they have a huge problem with those sidebar votes, they are not getting more relevant in general. - Patrick Boegel

I totally agree with this. Friendfeed already knows who are my eight favourite friendfeeders, so why not let me create a list or feed or whatever that is literally "give me only the stuff from my top x buddies"? That would solve it. - Marcos Marado from fftogo

You want something to learn from you... without you teaching it. Hmmm... Is this some sort of Cylon technology we haven't heard of? - Bwana ☠

Well, there's always Techmeme - Bwana ☠

@Bwana - i think the personalized version would be called Mememe - Daniel J. Pritchett

You can create all the filters and lists you want, if you're not following the right people, it's all futile. From your original post, it looks like you don't like the people you chose to follow. So if creating lists/filters is too hard, how about unfollowing those that bother you? Too hard? - Bwana ☠

I'll wager Jeremiah's problem is more that he follows people with interesting jobs who don't always share interesting links. If Scoble [Like]s a lolcat, should it show up on my feed or not? - Daniel J. Pritchett

Using FeedScrub on some of my RSS feeds definitely makes them more focused. Piping FF via FeedScrub seems v. clunky though. - Yan

The only way a lazy person can use FriendFeed is to use Techmeme - Bwana ☠

Social media platforms that don't develop powerful recommender systems for news, discussions and people are going to disappear quickly from the scene. Friendfeed needs to do much more much more quickly on this front. Feedly is already making important strides forward in refining its news recommender system. - Sean McBride

Developers and software companies that argue that people shouldn't be too lazy to perform tasks that could be performed by software are in the wrong business. Few of them survive in a competitive environment which rewards products that automate human tasks (like finding the most relevant information for a particular person in a particular situation). (Actually, none of them have the slightest chance of surviving -- they don't seem to get what software is all about: more work, less effort.) - Sean McBride

I love Friendfeed beta the way it's currently designed with real-time updates, infinite filtering options, and ever-updated conversations around topics of the day. That being said, I don't think it will ever reach mass adoption unless it significantly automates the discovery of content or presents a significantly dumbed-down version of what it is. It is too powerful a tool to be adopted en masse. Too much chaos expecting to be ordered. Not everyone's IQ is Scobleized. - Ryan Miller

Ryan FF is for the outliers. It's not going to be a mainstream tool in it's current configuration. I don't recommend many clients to use it. - Jeremiah Owyang

Here's a question, does FriendFeed have to go mainstream to succeed? - Bwana ☠

Depends, Bwana. I don't know about you, but I'm having a dollar a month worth of fun on FF and would certainly pay that. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

Bwana. No it doesn't have to go mainstream to succeed. BTW: most of the employees are ex-googlers, many who have cashed out. This appears to be a a labor of love - Jeremiah Owyang

Bwana, that's a great question. I've got a lot of real life friends over here from Twitter but cannot get them conversing. They prefer convos on Twitter or Facebook. - Sally Church

I agree, that would be nice I suppose, but what would that learning be based upon? It's almost impossible to have a system learn from people who are predominately lurkers for example. - David Leip from Nambu

C'mon Jeremiah, give it a try! - Mike Reynolds

jeremiah - i do the opposite, i've been recommending friendfeed to our editors and j-school's i've spoken at recently as a great example of an emerging tool that easily allows content publishing, filtering and conversation tracking... - mike "glemak" dunn

@Scobleizer - can I have your lists? I spend plenty of time in Google Reader, Twitter, & FB but could learn much more w/ your lists. - Courtney Engle

Courtney: nope. I am too lazy. :-( - Robert Scoble

lists are better than no lists. period. - Dobromir Hadzhiev

Bwana: despite not the desired solution, unfollowing people is a possibility. Yet, the issue remains: if friendfeed knows who are those I read the most from those whom I follow, why don't friendfeed tell me who are those who I should unsubscribe? - Marcos Marado

I also had some troubles to set my lists & filters. Not that I am lazy (not for that ;-) but I didn't know how to proceed, what was the methodology to make efficient filters : reduce the noise and improve signal. - Stanislas Jourdan

Fortunately, a friend helped me showing his own lists and filters. (thanks Jérôme!) - Stanislas Jourdan

Do you go to Google and magically have the results for what you're thinking about appear? - AJ Kohn

This is the exact sentiment I had when I first started using iTunes. Tagging tracks and making "smart" playlists was a bitch. Then they came out with Genius and all was right in the world. - Lindsey is Fierce!

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Jeremiah Owyang

Pritchett: Most of us got that from the beginning and simply took the opportunity to give him a hard time. Others, took it way too seriously, weighed-in and acted as if they are the product manager. I know, internet IS serious biz. - coldbrew

Bah, the comment that predicated my last 2-3 comments has vanished, making me look slightly nuts. I'll cut mine to clean the thread. Sorry coldbrew. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Single best list to create: pick your five most interesting Friendfeeders and make a list of just their likes. Incredible signal to noise ratio. - Leo Laporte

Leo Laporte -- it would be extremely easy for Friendfeed to automate the algorithm you just mentioned as part of a Friendfeed news recommender system. Most Friendfeed users are not going to take the trouble to create this filter by hand. But they would click on a single button to produce a ranked list of the new/unread items that are most personally relevant and globally important for them. - Sean McBride

I too have laziness in excess, and am not inclined to create filters and lists. Some kind of learning algorithm that delivers only the content I desire would indeed make the whole system more streamlined for me personally. Such code is, of course, the holy grail of pretty much all content providers and distributors. Maybe friendfeed will take us there one day, or perhaps google will, or even an as-yet-unstarted company, but each day without it brings us closer to it. - Slippy "WildBeard" Lane

Exactly waiting for drop down lists & a manageable UI to make list making understandable/manageable, we're not the one's coding here. Further the filter options are inadequate to say the least - sofarsoShawn

Slippy 2.0 -- Feedly is already there, leaving Friendfeed and Google Reader well behind the curve. I've come to the conclusion that Friendfeed and Google Reader just don't get the news recommendation thing (although I still admire and use them for other features). There is a good chance that FF and GR will suffer the same fate as Bloglines. - Sean McBride

It's easy. Click on the name of someone you like. On the right you'll see their number of "likes." Click that. Then subscribe to it. For best results put it in a list called "Likes" that you can then just click it in your list of lists on the right. Whenever I see someone with good taste in likes I add them to that list. Surfaces everything interesting very quickly. - Leo Laporte

Like that tip Leo - thanks - Iain

LOL check out the Beginner's room: that tip is in their and many others abound - sofarsoShawn

Leo: I created a "Likes" list of a few of my favorites in the early days of the beta. However, the UI doesn't allow me to manage the like subscriptions using the (add/remove friends) link for the list. I can neither subscribe, unsubscribe, or simply list the likes on my list. This is a problem to me. It's my favorite list, but it's tainted by this UI bug. A cool, yet unexpected, feature is that it's available on the current production site as well. - Anthony K. Valley ©

I hadn't noticed that Anthony. You can't manage Like lists! Weird. That's a serious bug. I'll submit that to the bug room. - Leo Laporte

I prefer to make my own list and categories, I found that many times when the list is made through an site or algorithm, a lot is missed or assumed. Besides I am not sure what the list would be based on unless it is likes. That brings up another problem, that many times when I click on like, it means I thought the article was interesting, not that I necessary liked the subject. Plus not I am assuming that many people don't necessarily use like a lot. - Kim Landwehr

prefer my own lists and filters, but it would sure be nice to have an easy to find collection of some of the best ones for several different areas of interest. Then lazy people could use those, and more importantly newbies could find high signal, and quality people to subscribe to, as well as quality examples of how to make powerful filters. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Dawn

"Global warming" has been discredited, so now that phrase has been dropped in favor of "climate change." As if the globe has ever had a stable climate. I wish we could have a rational debate based on sound argument instead of injecting politics, fear and junk science.

April 7 - Comment - Like - Share

Ted Bradford II, Nicholas James, Meryn Stol and 34 other people liked this

No, global warming hasn't been discredited. It's been turned in to a joke by those who don't understand the scientific evidence surrounding it. People are looking at an down tick in temperatures in some areas as evidence. That's like pointing to a dead cat bounce on the stock markets and saying "recession is over!" They changed the phrase to regain control of the conversation based on science instead of based on politics. - Alex Scoble

185 more comments

I'm not convinced, Alex. I heard tons of people saying that there is scientific consensus that global warming exists. It's not true. Plus, I'm also old enough to remember all the hysteria in the 70s that the world was getting colder and we were all going to freeze to death. I don't buy any of this anymore. I don't believe either side. - Dawn

Dawn, in the 70s there was hysteria but not scientific consensus. These talking points have all been churned over and dealt with. Unfortunately, we won't know for sure for years who's right on this issue and by then it will be too late to act. - Alex Scoble

there is a consensus. the people denying global warming do it for political reasons. - Alejandro

Yah, no consensus at all: http://www.futurepundit.com/archive... - Todd Hoff

Head of Greenpeace says some provocative things about global warming here: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Robert Scoble

Dawn: this is why I blocked you a long time ago, you just take the stupidest positions sometimes. The evidence is very clear there's global warming. - Robert Scoble

Please don't label me denier - I'm not. That said, consensus has nothing to do with scientific method. There is plenty of evidence for increased CO2 levels, and warming, but it's not clear that we have a valid model for making predictions - particularly not the kind that the IPCC is providing to governments. see: http://www.amazon.com/Vanishi... for one view on this. - Robin Barooah

Strawman. The scientific method requires repeatable independently observable experiments. There's obviously only one climate, one earth, and a lack of rigorous data. So the lack of scientific method spin I've been reading is crazy. What scientists are giving is their opinion based on the evidence before them. To say that consensus has no weight in forming an opinion can only mean one thing. - Todd Hoff

Actually it's not a strawman. Scientists forming an opinion about a group of trends is not the same as scientists making a scientific discovery. As I say - I'm not a denier. The issue is not about whether or not scientists agree there is a trend - it's that we don't yet have a model that is able to predict even the current changes, nor one that will tell us the consequences of different courses of action. - Robin Barooah

And as far as politics go - a major problem for scientists is that they are perceived by many as not being independent of it. They shouldn't need to change the phrase - they should be able to present progressively clearer and more comprehensible models. If there is consensus that we have an understanding of the mechanism rather than just agreeing there's a trend, why is there no website with a clear exhibit and exposition of the model, explanations, predictions and actual tracking data? - Robin Barooah

And Robert, even though I don't know you other than through FriendFeed, I have to say that I think it's pretty bad form to simply dismiss dawn's position as "Stupid" when she's asking for rational debate. If you're so confident about it wouldn't it have been more helpful to point her at a convincing resource? - Robin Barooah

Robin: there is no rational debate on this one. Look at the ice shelf breaking free. The temperature is going up and it's something we have to worry about. There's no debating that among rational people. Can we debate the causes? Absolutely. Can we debate the cures? Absolutely. But the science is in. It's demonstrable. http://beta.friendfeed.com/silas21... - Robert Scoble

FriendFeed needs 'dislike'. - Mike Hussein Cohen

Robert: There may not be any debate on the observations about what is happening now - I certainly don't deny them. But observations alone aren't science and they don't tell us what we should do, nor do they tell us what will happen in the future. If we don't actually know either the causes nor the consequences of potential cures, then we don't actually have any science. I think this is what leads people like Dawn to ask these questions. - Robin Barooah

And simply polarizing it into "stupid", "no rational debate", and categorizing people as deniers is just not constructive. Incidentally the IPCC models have under-predicted warming in general. w - Robin Barooah

Robin: that's bull. Dawn didn't ask those questions. She didn't admit that our ice on our polar caps is melting at an "alarming" rate. She didn't look into the science, which has been quoted and linked to here. Neither have you. She posted a stupid statement saying that "global warming" has been discredited without a single link demonstrating that that is in fact true, which it is not. So, posting stupid statements WILL get pointed out as being stupid. Sorry for being harsh, but this is lame debate. - Robert Scoble

Robin: if you say that water is not wet you are stupid. Sorry. And trying to be nice about it won't help anyone. - Robert Scoble

With all due respect Robert, I actually have looked into the science . Not only that, but I posted a link that leads to a book written by scientist who has clearly thought through a position that, while far from denying that there is warming - he calls it heating, has strong explanations as to why the IPCC 'consensus' is neither accurate nor scientific perhaps that will help Dawn. My position actually bridges the two perspectives - i.e. there is warming, but the science isn't good yet. - Robin Barooah

I don't see how name calling helped anyone either. I don't see trying to understand where they are coming from and building a bridge from there to where you are as 'being nice'. But I guess I'm wasting my time now because this conversation is 'lame'. - Robin Barooah

Robin: if someone says something stupid like "water is not wet" I think they deserve being called names. Sorry. I don't put up with stupidity. You want to fill my screen with stupidity I will call you names. Saying that Global Warming has been discredited is stupid. - Robert Scoble

Antarctica is breaking up. Plants and animals worldwide are being adversely affected by habitat changes. Weather patterns are changing radically. There is scientific evidence for all of these. So what are we REALLY arguing about? - Stan Scott

Stan: the world is flat. Haven't you heard? Sigh. - Robert Scoble

Robert: moving along a little from the original point - you don't subscribe to Dawn - clearly somebody you do follow must have interacted to show you her post - she didn't 'fill your screen' with anything. You know better than that - you could have hit 'hide' or block. So this is the new standard of community on FriendFeed? We will namecall whoever we think is stupid because they 'deserve' it even if we don't subscribe to them? Come on. - Robin Barooah

We had a snowstorm yesterday in Mississauga, Canada.. the last snowstorm of the year happens around March 25th.. It was snowing all day, but nothing stuck around. Weathers changing. That's not what's being argued anymore. What should be up for debate is what we should be doing about it. I don't care if you don't believe in global warming. But why take the risk? Why not fix a future problem? Isn't not looking ahead stupidity itself? - Angelo Rodrigues

+1 Angelo - and my question is - do we have a model that tells us how to fix the problem? If so - where? - Robin Barooah

Robin: I do subscribe to Dawn now. I started following her again a few weeks ago. - Robert Scoble

Does the world have a model for dealing with economic collapse? Nope, we all meet and try and figure it all out. Because, generally speaking of course, the first time things happen, it's hard to already have a plan in place. - Angelo Rodrigues

You've already agreed that it's potentially a problem in the future. If it's something that hasn't happened yet, a model is something we need to work towards. But only after we have a solution that works. I can make all the models in the world, but unless I make the wheels round, my car isn't going anywhere. - Angelo Rodrigues

Robert - fair enough - I misunderstood when you said you had unsubscribed from her before as implying that you were still unsubscribed. I still stand by my point about namecalling and the standard of debate - it would get ugly fast if we all did that. I guess it frustrates me because whilst I could block or hide you to avoid seeing that aspect, I'd prefer not to because you bring interesting information my way. I guess I sadly have to accept that tradeoff. - Robin Barooah

Robin if we allow stupid statements to stand we're all worse off. I'm usually nice, but not when I see stupidity. - Robert Scoble

Robin, it is a strawman. By it's nature this a problem where the scientific method can't apply. There are no repeatable independently verifiable experiments that can be run. Saying "scientific method" is simply diversionary. And when you are evaluating the probability of an event the weight of expert consensus figures in heavily in selecting probabilities. To say something can't be certain so it has 0 probability is irrational. - Todd Hoff

Robert: That's just it - I think name-calling simply splits the community, and means that those so called - 'stupid' statements remain standing for the people who held them - i.e. nobody's mind gets changed. A lot of 'stupid' statements contain partial truth. And then of course there's the question of how someone arrived at their view - there may be a good reason why it exists even if it's false. Good in the sense that it benefits us to understand how they reached it. Namecalling closes us off from this. - Robin Barooah

Robert: However, for some reason I am no longer bothered by you doing it now that you've explained your position. - Robin Barooah

Angelo: (remember I'm not a denier!) - so the problem is that we don't know how fast things are changing, and we don't know what the results of interventions will be - for example some models indicate that pollution may be working against global warming by dimming the amount of sunlight that hits the ground - so eliminating that pollution could increase warming. How would you propose we go about finding a solution? - Robin Barooah

Robert, if I'm stupid, then I'm in good company because there are tens of thousands of scientists who don't believe in global warming. For example, as it says here http://tinyurl.com/c7fgnx: "While the majority of lawmakers seem to tend to agree with Mr. Gore, 30,000 scientists – including 9,000 Ph.D. holders – have lined up with the founder of the Weather Channel, John Coleman – so... more... - Dawn

Robin: Thanks for trying. - Dawn

Dawn: got it. The ice is melting because the temperature is going down. Stupid me, I just can't see the obvious. - Robert Scoble

Todd: If I were saying that because we don't have a good scientific model, we should ignore the evidence, then I would agree with you. However I'm not saying that. I'm saying that we should stop claiming that we have a good scientific model, and instead admit that scientists are observing a dangerous trend but aren't yet able to predict where it's going nor what to do about it. I don't deny that it may be the most pressing problem of our time. - Robin Barooah

Dawn: the EU just called you stupid: http://uk.reuters.com/article... - Robert Scoble

"Nine of 11 experts, who were among authors of the final summary by the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 2007 (IPCC), also said the evidence that mankind was to blame for climate change had grown stronger in the past two years." - Robert Scoble

And once upon a time everyone thought the earth was flat. It didn't make them right and it didn't make people who argued against the evidence any less stupid. Same with people who tried to argue against the harmful effects of tobacco use. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Thanks for that report - it actually supports what I said to Angelo just now about reducing pollution increasing warming, and my earlier comment that the IPCC was under-predicting - have I established that I'm following the science now? But what about the scientists who disagree with Gore's evidence - they may all be stupid - but may have another part of the puzzle. - Robin Barooah

Robin: how do you argue with polar ice caps that are melting? That's not up for discussion. You can witness it with your own eyes. Ice doesn't melt if things are getting colder. - Robert Scoble

Robin: Thank you for taking a stand against Robert on behalf of the community. I too believe strength is diversity in all forms. - Jason Nelson

Regardless of Climate Change, Global Warming, whatever, Carbon Credits will soon be revealed to be a ponzi scheme. Call me stupid, but I'm quite something can, and will soon be done about Al Gore's fraud. - Wallace

Jason: are you speaking up for stupidity in the guise of being for diversity? Wow. - Robert Scoble

Scoble==Bush. - Jason Nelson

Jason: I hated Bush. He said some of the stupidest things any president of ours has ever said. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I'm not arguing with that - nor am I denying that there is warming. What I'm saying is that the scientists who are part of the consensus do not have a good predictive model (otherwise known as science) - so they don't know how to solve the problem, and that the scientists who disagree may well have something constructive to add to our understanding. - Robin Barooah

http://canadafreepress.com/index... - Steve

Robin: you are changing the discussion, though. What Dawn said to start this was "Global warming has been discredited." That is stupid. If we want to talk about something else, we should start another thread. - Robert Scoble

I would refer all arguments about "strength is diversity in all forms" to this: http://www.randi.org/site... - Justin Yost

Robert: It's not about being stupid or not--it's your behavior. - Jason Nelson

Robert: you have obviously been well informed by the consensus view - as dawn has been informed by the dissenters. Warming has clearly been discredited for her. Don't you find it interesting to know how that came about? If the consensus scientists didn't just agree about warming existing but had a strong model as well, I wouldn't be paying much attention - but until they do, I'd rather not exclude alternative viewpoints - even if they are partially wrong. - Robin Barooah

Jason: my behavior is that I won't put up with obvious stupidity. That's right. And I will call it out. That's right. THAT is HOW you build a strong community. If you allow all stupidity to stand THAT is how you get a crappy community. Jason: I guess you think I should be "nice" to spammers, right? For diversity's sake? How about other undesirable behavior? After all, if we really want to be diverse and "nice" we should allow racists, sexists, homophobes, jerks, etc to go unchallenged. Just to be "nice?" - Robert Scoble

Robert: I'm not changing the subject. There is a minority view and a majority view here. The majority view doesn't yet have answers for us. The majority could agree on the diagnosis but give us a suicidal prescription, while the minority may be wrong about the diagnosis but save us from taking a poison pill. This is the health of our planet we're talking about and it's not simple. - Robin Barooah

Robin: no, if someone says "water is not wet" I really don't want to know how they came to that belief. It's stupid and outrageous and I will say so. - Robert Scoble

Robin: you are changing the subject. Again, the ice caps are melting. If the globe is getting cooler, or global warming has been discredited, then you MUST FIRST explain why they are melting. - Robert Scoble

Justin: I was speaking more in terms of the challenges of groupthink. Thanks for the video. - Jason Nelson

Robert: The Earth was much warmer than it is now during the "medieval warm period." Agriculture flourished during that time. The planet adapts, humans adapt, animals adapt. Is it *smart* to think we can control all this? I don't think so, but that's my opinion. The difference between you and me is that I would never call you stupid for having a different outlook. - Dawn

Dawn: why are the polar ice caps melting if you say that "global warming has been discredited?" Your headline above is stupid and until you take it back you are stupid for making such a stupid claim. Once you take it back and admit that was a stupid thing to say we can discuss calmly all the other stuff you'd like to discuss. - Robert Scoble

Dawn: Are you suggesting that the climate is static? - Jason Nelson

Robert: "Global warming" is the common contraction for "manmade global warming," a theory that was present to us all as beyond question but has been discredited, like it or not. That's why they've changed the language to "climate change." - Dawn

Jason: No, exactly the opposite. - Dawn

Dawn: wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Your headline did NOT say that. Global Warming means that our ice is melting. What causes our ice to melt is something else. - Robert Scoble

It doesn't matter how much warming is "proved" -- what matter is that people who call themselves scientists have to keep their minds open, keep collecting data, and be willing to accept variations in their theory. it's the religiosity and hype around "global warming" that is so unpersuasive, makes people suspicious. If it is true, surely you don't need to fight so angrily and so hysterically to prove it. - Prokofy Neva

Robert: You're missing the point - if "Global Warming" is more than just a political banner, then there needs to be a model. Models are more than just linear relationships sure - ice melts therefore there is warming. But that doesn't tell us what will happen in a decade - it could be a cycle - like the seasons. "Global Warming" is a label referring to a group of models that say this is an ongoing trend. - Robin Barooah

Robert: I'm quite calm, thanks. - Dawn

Actually, the sea ice measurement in the Southern Hemisphere is quite a bit higher than it's average for this date compared against its average from 1979-2000. http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph... - Steve

Robin: Global Warming is scientists showing us evidence that our planet is warming up. All this stuff you are bringing up is changing the subject. The headline, as it stands is stupid. Global Warming is something you can go outside and observe scientifically. Ice is melting for a reason. We can debate the reason AFTER you admit the planet is warming up and that the headline above is stupid. - Robert Scoble

Climate change exists. That is a fact that no rational person can dispute. The debate revolves around how much effect humans have on climate change. Is it 10%? 30%? 50%? 100%? The number is important because if human action only affects climate change by 10 or 20 percent the ability of humans to reverse climate change is about the same. So where is the debate on how much humans have affected climate change? - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Robert: So would you say that "Global Warming" is not also scientists saying that human behavior is causing the warming? - Robin Barooah

+1 Mark - Robin Barooah

Robin: no. When I have heard Global Warming talks by top scientists they keep the two separate. First you hear the evidence that the planet is warming up. Then, separately, you hear the evidence that humans caused it. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I hear you about the ice caps melting and that seems proof but then...why did it snow heavily in Wichita the day after everybody turned their lights off for an hour?! - Prokofy Neva

Prokofy: stop being lame. Local weather does not tell you anything about what is happening to the globe as a whole. - Robert Scoble

The hallmark of an open society as Karl Popper said is the ability to be able to mount *even a false hypothesis*. Scoble's demand for conformity and labelling of those with dissent as "stupid" is really worrisome. - Prokofy Neva

Robert: for years the literature has conflated "global warming" with "manmade." That's just a simple fact. For most people, "global warming" still embeds the assumption that it's manmade. If that isn't so, then why all the talk about CO2 emission, etc? - Dawn

Prokofy: it's easy to prove that Global Warming is happening. Look at the ice melting. - Robert Scoble

Again: http://uk.reuters.com/article... Why isn't Dawn arguing against this? - Robert Scoble

Dawn: the literature I've seen has made the two separate. Have you ever gone to a major conference and heard a scientist who is studying the problem speak? I have. They keep the two separate. - Robert Scoble

Robert: well therein lies one of the roots of our misunderstanding - I put it to you that for many people the label "Global Warming" refers not just to the heating effect, but also to the human influence. The fact that "Global Warming" talks cover both topics implicitly combines the two concepts under one title, even if the scientists separate the evidence for the two. - Robin Barooah

Robin: then to not make that clear to a reader is stupid too. It's very easy to change the headline above, and apologize for making an incorrect statement. Why hasn't Dawn done that yet? - Robert Scoble

http://uk.reuters.com/article... Answer this. - Robert Scoble

Okay, Robert, you're 100% right and I'm an total idiot, as always. But thanks for illustrating what I said about not being about having a rational debate. I'm going to bed. Goodnight. - Dawn

Dawn: answer this: http://uk.reuters.com/article... here's what scientists are saying TODAY. You have proven you really don't care about the truth or finding it. Idiot. - Robert Scoble

Robert, if the ice is melting why is there more ice today than during the average from the baseline of 1979-2000? - Steve

Leather I have admitted I'm wrong on MANY occassions and corrected mistakes I have made. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Since you seem to be so clear on this, wouldn't it have been better to just ask whether she was conflating the two definitions rather than calling her names? - Robin Barooah

Steve: provide a scientific link for that. There's a lot less ice everywhere in the world that the satellite photos I've been watching have been seeing. - Robert Scoble

Robin: answer this: http://uk.reuters.com/article... - Robert Scoble

ah, the irony. - Bren, Not Grinchy

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph... - Steve

this thread (FF: fred?) is *still* going on!?! - CharlieWhiskey™

Steve: as ice melts it spreads out. Increasing its area. - Robert Scoble

Steve: that chart only shows 2008/2009 data. I thought you said 1979. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I presume your request that I 'answer this' means you haven't been reading my comments given that I introduced some of the points made in this report myself earlier in the thread, and I have repeatedly pointed out that I am not a denier that warming is happening. - Robin Barooah

Robin: then we have nothing to argue about. Dawn's statement is still idiotic in light of scientific evidence. - Robert Scoble

And you haven't answered it, really. http://uk.reuters.com/article... - Robert Scoble

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Robert Scoble

It compares the data to the average from 1979-2000 - Steve

Check out wikipedia. It says it all. I'm done arguing about whether water is wet. THe globe is warming up. Scientists say it. Our photos of our planet show it. The evidence demonstrates it. If you fight the evidence that shows me you aren't looking for the truth, you just want to troll. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Not really - you misunderstood her definition and called her a name. The article isn't raising a question and I'm not disagreeing with it's observations, so I can't answer it - whatever that's supposed to mean. If you read my comments you won't find a single one where I deny there's warming, and you'll find a number where I support it. - Robin Barooah

Robin: her headline is very clear and very wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... is the facts. - Robert Scoble

Okay, Robert, I'll answer this since you keep jumping up and down about it and then I'm going to bed. "Nine of 11 experts, who were among authors of the final summary by the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 2007 (IPCC)"... Do you not understand that the UN has vested economic and political interest in hyping global warming? I have faith in this report as much as I have faith in reports put out by the fat cats on Wall Street. - Dawn

The language was never "changed to climate change." Some prefer to use that label because warming occurs at different rates in different places, and there can also be periods of cooling, though overall there's a clear and dangerous warmming trend. - Jon Lebkowsky

Dawn: exactly. You aren't here to discover truth. You are here to push an agenda. Idiot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... has the facts. - Robert Scoble

Liking this so I can follow it. Y'all are giving me an idea for my thesis. - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

Technically "global warming" is an accurate term. The fact and scale of that trend is associated with human activity, that's rather undeniable and commonly accepted. - Jon Lebkowsky

By the way, when someone calls me an idiot (like Mike Arrington did yesterday on the Gillmor Gang) I either back it up with facts or I apologize for seeing it incorrectly and fix my mistake. Dawn has done neither. She is an idiot. She has done this before. She pushes an agenda of idiocy. I will not put up with it. - Robert Scoble

Robert: I have to admit I'm trolling you a little - mostly because I'm so disappointed about your approach. I think you are trolling too, calling people 'idiot' as much as you are - the hulk is having fun. My point is that we don't get to anything valuable by attempting to close down debate. - Robin Barooah

Here's an article I wrote about global warming in 2001: http://findarticles.com/p... - Jon Lebkowsky

Robin: I have only called one person an idiot so far this year and you are witnessing it. If someone is sincerely looking for truth, or has some new data I don't know about to back it up (that's accepted by the scientific community, that is) then fine. But I won't put up with this kind of idiocy and agenda pushing here. - Robert Scoble

It was pretty well accepted science, even then - at least among scientists who studied climate and the environment. - Jon Lebkowsky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... has the facts. I note that Dawn isn't talking about this data. - Robert Scoble

As for my "headline" okay, I'm sorry. I meant "manmade global warming" as I have since clarified. As I said many, many comments back, I acknowledge that the planet has warmed this century. But that doesn't change anything else I have said. What agenda you think I'm pushing is beyond me. And why you "won't put up with" free speech is beyond me, too. But I do understand that you like calling me an idiot. Fine. I hope you've enjoyed your opportunity to do so. Now I AM going to bed. - Dawn

New Data Show Rapid Ice Decline (Washington Post on 4/7/2009): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... - Robert Scoble

Dawn: free speech is the ability to call idiotic opinions idiotic. You have the freedom to post idiocy. I have the freedom to call you out on it. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Do you think all of the scientists who dissent (who have influenced dawn) are idiots too? - Robin Barooah

The Washington Post is not saying that Global Warming has been discredited. I wonder what kind of "reputable" source gave Dawn the idea that Warming is discredited? - Robert Scoble

Robin: there's lots of idiots out there. Remember all the scientists who used to say the world is flat? Riggggghhhttttt. Just cause you went to school for four years doesn't mean you are correct. - Robert Scoble

Robert: So only statements from "reputable" sources are now allowed in FriendFeed postings? - Robin Barooah

And, anyway, the ice is melting. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... If Global Warming is "discredited" then you must explain why that's happening. - Robert Scoble

Robin: if you want to be taken seriously and not be called an idiot, yes, you must use reputable sources. Or at least explain why your less reputable sources should be taken as credible. - Robert Scoble

Thick ice vanishing: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... - Robert Scoble

Robert: So now FriendFeed is only about discussing mainstream opinions that can be supported by easy media reference? I guess I am left wondering why you had to read only the first half of her post, and not read the request for debate. Did you even click on the amazon link to Lovelock's book? - Robin Barooah

But no, we should allow people to say global warming is not happening for "community" and "niceness" and "diversity of opinions." Hogwash. - Robert Scoble

Robin: if I say "water is not wet" but then request a debate, what kind of debate is that? It's not a search for truth. If she really wanted a debate she would have demonstrated she sees there's two sides. One that has scientific data behind it and reputable sources and one that does not. But, she should have at least linked to wikipedia and other RECENT news (I've been getting all my links from Google News, this is stuff that's only days old). - Robert Scoble

Robert: But that's the problem... you're taking the term Global Warming literally to mean the Earth is warming and ignoring Dawn's point. - Jason Nelson

Robert: Well I don't want to start issuing edicts but I personally thing it's very valuable to allow them to say it, and to try to understand whether they mean what we think they mean before we start insulting them. You didn't do that. Furthermore, this 'water is not wet' thing that you keep repeating is certainly a straw man. It's not that simple a topic. - Robin Barooah

Jason: Dawn's point is that she doesn't believe the science. I went back and read it. She doesn't believe EU and NASA and other scientists who have PHOTOS and DATA to back up their claims. What can I say to such a person? Idiot. - Robert Scoble

Robin: it is that simple a topic. Our globe is warming up. That has NOT been discredited. The evidence is VERY clear. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Once again - I ask you whether you've actually listened to any of the alternative opinions? If you haven't then how are you making a judgement? I recommend lovelock because he certainly doesn't deny that warming is happening - he calls it global heating to emphasise that. But he is very skeptical about the scientific understanding of the topic. I find it hard to see how you can call her stupid if you haven't considered any alternative perspectives. - Robin Barooah

Robin: yes I have. But you are changing the subject again. No one is able to provide credible evidence that our world is not warming up. What there is still some debate about is what is causing it. But the headline above did not make that case and Dawn is unwilling to listen to the credible scientists as she herself admitted. She has an agenda and is trolling. - Robert Scoble

Robert: Sure the globe is heating up - but I think it's reasonable to read her heading as referring to more than just that. - Perhaps what I'm missing is evidence of her 'agenda'. Is that something you know about from previous interactions? - Robin Barooah

Robert: That's your interpretation--and you're ignoring the quotes around "Global Warming" she placed in the title of her post. - Jason Nelson

Robin and Jason. Whatever. I've been very consistent in this whole argument about explaining my problem with the headline. She hasn't corrected it. The headline is stupid and lame and idiotic. On its face. The evidence here is very clear. And I'll go with the scientists who are looking at the recent data. http://news.google.com/news... - Robert Scoble

Robert: The debate is whether Global Warming is manmade or not. You've done little to nothing to address that point. - Jason Nelson

Jason: it's very clear that most credible scientists believe it's manmade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Robert Scoble

I'll go with Hillary Clinton: http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens... - Robert Scoble

Heck, Clinton called Dawn an idiot. Who am I to argue? :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert: That may well be so - but it's hardly stupid to question it - there are certainly reasonable scientists who have well articulated arguments to the contrary - and their ideas haven't been disproven, and could be part of what we need to know. - Robin Barooah

Robin: you have provided no links to anything here that is anything close to a "reasonable scientist." - Robert Scoble

Glen: oopsss, sorry, I was wrong. I corrected my mistake. - Robert Scoble

What's the harm in altering behavior if there's even a *slight* chance it's caused by man? Really, even if you're not convinced (though I am) isn't it just prudent to take some steps that would have multiple positive benefits? And Occam's Razor would tell you it is man made. As an example (which I've used before), the city block full of asphalt, buildings and combustion versus the bucolic pasture of a dirt road and a log cabin. Same parcel of land, which is hotter? - AJ Kohn

The debate as to whether it's manmade or not is pretty much pointless, and we can throw "scientific data" at each other till the cows come home and not resolve it. I mean, there's a lot more scientific method supporting psychic phenomenon than supporting the effectiveness of aspirin. Fall on whichever side of that debate you want; my point is that scientific data means not a jot to what people will believe and what they will publicly claim to be true. - Grey Drane

Robert: Well by your circular definition all 'reasonable scientists' agree with global warming and everyone else is stupid. I have posted a link to work by a controversial but respected scientist who is accepted as a reasonable person although who's ideas are not mainstream. That's what you do in a debate - bring in well reasoned contrary positions. Remember I am not arguing that warming isn't happening - I'm arguing that your name calling is unhelpful to the debate that was asked for. - Robin Barooah

Whether climate change is manmade or not, I think we can all agree that there's something going on and that it could potentially be very bad for a lot of people, so let's go ahead and do what each of us can to try and minimize the problem, but let's not spend too much time and energy on it, because there are far worse problems right now that we could solve much more easily if we all put our minds to it: poverty, starvation, and on and on. - Grey Drane

Grey: The problem as I see it is that we don't have a model that tells us what to do that won't make it worse because we don't understand it yet - and global warming could be a lot worse than starvation and poverty - or rather massively increase them. - Robin Barooah

Robin: "respected" scientists are not controversial. Either they have the data and can demonstrate their claims or they can not. If they are controversial that tells you something. - Robert Scoble

@Robin: There's history between Robert and Dawn. I'd move on from the 'name calling' meme. - AJ Kohn

Robin: precisely my point. We don't know what to do about global warming or if there even is anything we can do about it. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. Whether or not man caused it, polluting the atmosphere can't be a "good" thing, so let's try and minimize that while people work on finding other solutions. But making a huge deal out of the debate only detracts from the seriousness of other very real problems right now that we *do* know how to solve, if we just made more of an effort. - Grey Drane

Robert: In that case, perhaps the IPCC shouldn't be 'respected' since their models have not been correct so far. Lovelock has actually proved various predictions of his theory through experiment (and these have been grudgingly accepted) - that doesn't mean he can predict the climate - it just means he's a respectable scientist as I suspect are members of the IPCC. Note that both lovelock and the IPCC agree that there's warming happening. Science is not as simple as you are pretending. - Robin Barooah

Robin: like I said. The original thesis of this entire post has been disproven. So, I'm off to bed. If you want to argue about causes or something else, gotta do that some other time. In the meantime, Dawn says she wishes to have a rational debate. That is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... no "fear, politics, junk science, or idiocy there" - Robert Scoble

Grey: See this scoble approved uncontroversial page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and look at the section on Aerosols. Pollution may well not have been a good thing in the past but getting rid of it now may make things worse. Which is what the core of my point is - this is complex issue and even though it's may be obvious that there is warming, it's not yet clear what moves to make to improve things. - Robin Barooah

Robert: "Respected" doesn't necessarily equal "good" and "controversial", "bad". More often, "respected" just means "mainstream" and "controversial", "not mainstream". But "not mainstream" could very well (but not, of course, necessarily) mean "cutting edge" and "not *yet* accepted/respected". Not to necessarily defend this specific scientist Robin is talking about, just to bring some balance to your argument. - Grey Drane

Robert: I think she was asking for a debate with actual people - and not just to be pointed at a page with mainstream views. I guess our buttons are pressed by different issues - you dislike what you see as stupidity, while I would like to see more actual person-to-person debate. It's definitely been interesting and I'm glad to have gone through it. - Robin Barooah

And before I go - since I'm getting tired too. I'd just like to say for the record that I am not (as you will see if you read the comments!) championing Lovelock's view. I just happen to be reading his book and it's helping me to question my otherwise mainstream assumptions. He's 'respectable' enough to be a Fellow of the Royal Society and a lecture of his on climate change (given there) is here: http://royalsociety.org/podcast... - Robin Barooah

And the BBC interviewed him last week - which is how I came across his book. - Robin Barooah

Robin: Sure, but so... what? We should just all go on polluting and burning fossil fuels because it *might* save the world from global warming? Regardless of global warming, in my book, pollution bad. Global warming? *Could* be bad. But poverty, starvation, war, genocide... much worse, not to mention much more verifiable and solvable. So let the global warming debate be solved by those with the skills to solve it, and let's focus on what we "actual people" can actually do something about. - Grey Drane

Grey: I hear you. I don't know whether it will affect warming, but I have personally done a lot to reduce my resource consumption over the past few years. I gave up my car over a year ago, and have stopped consuming many unnecessary items. I don't think it hurts us to think these things through and debate them for ourselves though - especially since politics and profiteering are involved and we need to be able to distinguish actual science from them lest we be exploited. - Robin Barooah

Grey: I also think that addressing poverty, starvation, war, genocide, etc. will require quite a lot of debate and understanding divergent points of view! I generally tune out comments like Robert's 'stupid', but I think they close down debate and reduce participation, so I really wanted to see what would happen if I confronted it, especially since FriendFeed is now real-time which makes it much more amenable to actual conversation. - Robin Barooah

Robin (on first point): OK, yes, debate can be helpful, but then let's frame the debate constructively. This one very clearly wasn't, and in that, I have to side with Robert. And yes, being able to distinguish between actual science and nonsense would be great, but I'm not sure that throwing scientific articles back and forth at each other is the best way to achieve that. - Grey Drane

Robin (on point after that): And on poverty, etc., yes, these are definitely not "easy" things to solve, but they are much easier, relatively speaking, to solve than "global warming", which may very well not be solvable at all, at least not to a degree that will make any significant difference. Poverty -> give people more money. Starvation -> give people more food. Yes, there are cultural and societal issues involved, but the ultimate solution is clear. - Grey Drane

Grey: I actually agree that the framing wasn't great. So do you support robert in dismissing Dawn as 'stupid' rather than suggesting the framing was bad - or even just ignoring the debate? I doubt I'd have even got involved if he hadn't done that - I'm subscribed to him not her. - Robin Barooah

Robin: Hmm... that's a tough one, and I was just thinking about that actually. Honestly, I do resonate with Robert's view there, but wouldn't have expressed it in so many words. Should *Robert* not have? Dunno. I tend to think that Robert, specifically, can actually get away with it, whereas most others probably wouldn't and would just be seen as "trolls". Not sure I can express exactly why I feel that way. Like you say, I wouldn't be in this debate either if Robert hadn't said exactly what he said. - Grey Drane

Grey: I think it's the fact that other people would look like just some random troll, but that Robert has more influence that made me want to call him on it. I would just unsubscribe or block people who troll - and so far I've unsubscribed from a few, but never blocked anyone. It's not so simple with Robert because he brings in valuable information though his activities, so it's costly to block him if you're interested in the other aspects of what he says. - Robin Barooah

BTW, I'm not saying I think Dawn is "stupid", just that I resonate with Robert's reaction to her claims. - Grey Drane

Grey: ergo I challenged him rather than blocking him. Re:Dawn - I don't understand her viewpoint yet but I wanted to hear how she got there. - Robin Barooah

Robin: Yep. There's no point engaging a troll, but Robert is generally an intelligent, reasonable person and, as you say, influential. And because it was Robert, I actually didn't think what he said was that bad. Whether he actually thinks Dawn is stupid or not is largely irrelevant, and I hope (and think) Dawn understands that. The point is that he thinks what she said was... not thought through enough, and on that, I would largely agree with him. - Grey Drane

Robert calls 'em as he sees 'em, and I think we all understand and expect that. Sometimes that means he'll step on some toes, and sometimes those toes will need stepping on and sometimes they won't. Nobody's perfect. Anyway.... - Grey Drane

Hmm... I guess I'm not exactly supporting Robert calling people stupid. But I know one or two other people who, online at least, are... let's say "overly direct", but people know that's just how they are and have learned not to take it personally. Could they communicate more effectively? Definitely. Does that make it OK for everyone to be intentionally offensive. Definitely not. But it is also true that it can be refreshing to engage with someone you know isn't holding back just to be "socially correct". - Grey Drane

'something very ugly has surfaced in contemporary American liberalism, as evidenced by the irrational and sometimes infantile abuse directed toward anyone who strays from a strict party line. Liberalism, like second-wave feminism, seems to have become a new religion for those who profess contempt for religion. It has been reduced to an elitist set of rhetorical formulas, which posit the... more... - Aidan Mann

Wow what a discussion. Lots of nasties being thrown about. The globe is heating up, the polar caps are melting. IT IS A NATURAL PART OF THE CYCLE OF THE PLANET. The reality of this is as the dinosaurs were wiped out when the planet went through severe climate change, and later the glaciers extended way down into the N. America and Europe (polar regions EXPANDING) and the continents shift as the planet goes through internal heatings and coolings of it's mantle. The planet's electro magnetic forces - Amy Flynn

cause shifts in an already wobbly axis, climate change (often severe is experienced on Earth every so many thousands of years. It is NORMAL. The "ruse" is that it is something that man has caused. Surely we are not helping by removing necessary greenery (rain forrests) and polluting, but we are not CAUSING a very natural occurence in the planet's cycle. Check this out, you will see that we are experiencing an Earth cycle. Everything in the Universe is orderly and organized, nothing is random. - Amy Flynn

The earth has an unstable rotation, it's axis is tilted causing a wobble. This wobble creates an instability in the core of the planet. It "corrects" it's wobble every so many thousands of years. There are also other factors that exert magnetic pull on the earth's magnetic core. Passing planets, dark matter, so called dark planets and the like. This is science people, not politics. Nothing unusual is going on. The planet is behaving as it always has. - Amy Flynn

Climate change is a natural Thing. It's been happening since before we were here. To say that we are causing it is rather big headed. We maybe having an effect but it is almost impossible to say how much of an effect. - Jamie Vidamour

Robert spent an hour and a half calling me stupid and an idiot for saying "global warming" instead of "manmade global warming." My position was that the "manmade" part is embedded in the term, and he said I was wrong. This is from NASA's website http://www.nasa.gov/topics... "To a scientist, global warming describes the average global surface temperature increase from human emissions of greenhouse gases." - Dawn

As for what prompted me to write this, I was flipping through channels and heard somebody talking about the media's name change (from "global warming" to "climate change") and why it's occur (because global warming cannot be accepted as a fact but merely as a theory). I couldn't link to anything because I didn't see this online and I didn't even catch the names. But I've head these kind... more... - Dawn

Scoble, you're smart when it comes to tech stuff, no doubt. But blocking someone because they are skeptical about global warming is pretty disappointing. - Shey, Jamaican of FF

There's nothing "only" about a scientific theory. People need to really understand that. In science "theory" is about the strongest type of idea there is. When something gets to theory status it's been thoroughly tested and vetted to fit the known evidence. - Alex Scoble

Side comment: far fewer people ever believed the earth was flat than people seem to think. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Justin Long

"Known evidence" is right. I dare say we aren't nearly as knowledgeable about the workings of this planet as we think we are. Theories often change over time. Like I said, I remember the experts saying in the 70s that the Earth was getting colder. - Dawn

Interesting, Justin. Thanks. - Dawn

Since this thread hasn't gone away yet I will reference this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - In particular: Andrew Neil of the BBC stated that "... You don't have to be a climate-change denier to recognise that there's a great range of opinion on the subject." - Robin Barooah

Wow--interestingly emotional thread. I actually have very vivid memories of the 70's warnings about an impending ice age. That was also a time of acute interest in environmental issues. Who can forget this video, for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch.... I even remember when representatives from the Byron, IL nuclear plant that was built in the mid 70's visited our... more... - Kathy Fitch

Pavel Senko

A picture - http://smallaa.com/p/_4190

April 3 - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman, Tyson Key, RAPatton and 5 other people liked this

The M110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System (or M110 SASS) is a semi-automatic rifle that is chambered for the 7.62x51mm NATO round, developed by the American firearm manufacturer Knight's Armament Company. - Pavel Senko

Seems like something Apple could make, but with a bit too much clutter. - Jemm

Paul Buchheit

Man decides to clean with gasoline while smoking - http://news.yahoo.com/s...

April 7 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Susan Beebe, Darren Heydon, Anne Bouey and 18 other people liked this

"A man faces an arson charge after telling authorities he wasn't thinking when he decided to use gasoline for cleaning up his apartment, and then tossed a lit cigarette into a pile of gas-soaked cushions and clothes. A criminal complaint filed Monday quoted a 47-year-old man as saying he knew gasoline is flammable and never should have used it. The complaint said that when the fire began Friday, he didn't pull the fire alarm but instead shouted "fire" a couple times and walked to the Menasha police department for an ambulance to take him to the hospital where he was treated for burns." - Paul Buchheit from Bookmarklet

14 more comments

what a twat! - Rob Sellen :o)

What the? Why would you clean with gas ever - mjc

It's a good solvent. - Paul Buchheit

Yea its good to clean up sticky icky stuff - Kyle Weller

NOW will he quit smoking? - Andre P. Siregar

Liquid napalm is also fantastic at getting stains out on wooden surfaces. - Josh

When I was a teenager, I knew of a guy who would sit on his porch all day long and huff gasoline. It was Lynchian weird to watch him. - Akiva Moskovitz

another almost winner of a darwin award. yawn, booring.... - Mihai Tarmure

mjc: It turns out that gasoline is a very good solvent, so it works very well for cleaning. - Gabe

Alibi FAIL - April Buchheit

@Gabe. so is fire, apparently :D - stefan

It appears that there is a fine line between arson and moron... - Gabe

irrelevant about it being a good cleaner..petrol is good to clean metal with.. but not with a cig in yer gob.... THATS moronic. - Rob Sellen :o)

I can see cleaning oh, say,a rusty lawnmower with gasoline - in a garage. But how do you Just Happen to Have gasoline handy in an apartment? - m9m, Crone of FriendFeed

m9m - how else are you going to start your bbq? I ask you. - Andrew C

Yolanda

Amazon.com: Chia Obama Handmade Decorative Planter: Health & Personal Care - http://www.amazon.com/Chia-Ob...

April 7 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

J.D. Deutschendorf, edythe, Hutch Carpenter and 6 other people liked this

I'm just now seeing this piece of... whatever. LMAO - Yolanda from Bookmarklet

8 more comments

That's the happy one -- have you seen his serious one? LOL - Mona Nomura

FINALLY! The Chia pet for me! - Lindsey is Fierce!

Oh dear, a serious one?? - Yolanda

That's one case of funny WTF. How can they think of that? - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

@Zu What haven't they turned into a Chia? Oh oh oh . . . I want a Kim Jong IL one. If I get enough world leaders I can put them in jars and it will be like Futurama - Lindsey is Fierce!

@Lindsey Simply amazing, I didn't know. Is there alot? I'm looking into it right now. - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Sadly no . . . just wishful thinking ;) - Lindsey is Fierce!

Damn, 12 waves, that's alot of those! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Chia Shrek, Chia Donkey, Chia Garfield, Chia Cat Grass Planter featuring Sylvester and Tweety. Interesting by the nanosecond! ;) - ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,

Cee Bee

tibetan fox is not impressed

April 6 - Comment - Like - Share

newsletter, Phil Gribbon, Tsega Dinka and 17 other people liked this

wooow - Alp

though i do like the ability to selectively post to twitter. i'm a little dizzy right now - Cee Bee

liking for the cute fox - BEX

AJ Batac

PHOTOSHOP - http://roflrazzi.com/2009...

February 17 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Parth Awasthi, Steven Perez, Shevonne and 9 other people liked this

"Because this movie needs all the help it can get" - ROFL - AJ Batac from Bookmarklet

3 more comments

What movie is this? - Mitch

Comments are claiming M:I:III - Mitch

yeah its the third one. - Alfredo

MI III was one of the better ones, but I totally did everything JJ Abrams does. - Steven Perez

loren feldman

Thinking of posting my Shel gets high video.

February 17 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman liked this

Robert Scoble

Twitter / Database maintenance (Twitter "inch worm?") - http://twitter.com/

February 13 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Denise Howell, Daniel Rowley, Thomas Hawk and 16 other people liked this

I'd rather have the fail whale. The inch worm goes too slow. - Robert Scoble from Bookmarklet

19 more comments

a fail whale by any other name... - Brian Roy

Tina called it "The Cone of Silence" when this made its debut. - Jared Smith

inch worm in the hole!! - Yung-Hui Lim

It's one thing if it was animated. But this? Lame. - Robert Scoble

twitter is down and I feel like I have no idea what's going on in the world. I might as well go to bed. - Lise

Down again! It must have something to do with the updates their testing. - Michael Fidler

Updates are no excuse... I'll take 1M of that $$ they just got to help them figure out how to not be down to update... - Brian Roy

whales are celebrating valentine's day... - Pico Seno

Twitter joke, what's the difference between twitter and the stock market? ..... none, they're both down. - Richard A.

@Cone person: speak for yourself, you got ice cream on your head! - sofarsoShawn

Twitter are a bunch of wankers, which is what I've been saying for over a year now. By now they've had more than enough time to rewrite a code that works. - Richard A.

Grrr. With no warning? 35M gets less love, I guess. - Karoli from BuddyFeed

I love insulting twitter, but I don't want it to reflect badly on me ;-) - Richard A.

lol... - Bryan B

It's back! - Chris Mayer

yeah planned maintainence is alot less aggravating - Mike Chelen

Funnily enough, twitpic complained at first, but then let me log in and upload a pic. API still available? - Glenn Huther

seems so, tweets from friendfeed were posted - Mike Chelen

tweetdeck was reporting my API would reset at 16:00. Now seems back to normal. - Scott Kingery

It's up again, they only go down for a short time ;-) - Richard A.

Mark Krynsky

FriendFeed User Locations - Google Shared Map (4 days & 75 users later) - http://maps.google.com/maps...

November 23, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

Orsan Erksoy, Özgür Emre Öztürk, Mustafa Y. Halici and 122 other people liked this

A smashing success! Thanks to everyone who has participated. This is very cool. If you haven't yet, go ahead and do so. Original post here http://friendfeed.com/e... - Mark Krynsky

47 more comments

Added. Surely I'm not the only FF'er in Africa? - Neill Adamson

@Neill, that's great. You just got us to the 6th continent. I highly doubt we can hit 7 as there surely can't be someone from Antarctica that FriendFeeds. - Mark Krynsky

The Antarctica challenge: OK, here's the plan: we need to contact Eli Duke (http://twitter.com/elisfanclub) he's tweeting from McMurdo Station, Antarctica. We have until February (some background I just found: on his 1st stint in the Antarctic he was a dish washer. In 2006 he wrote a functioning RubyOn Rails site, got burned out and tried to give it away on Craig's List...unsuccessfully--it's back online now http://listyourlist.com/ . McMurdo Photo: http://is.gd/8Ltk) - Micah Wittman

I reshared to the Translation room to help boost your international participation. - Shannon Jiménez

nah, friendfeed isn't a niche play. it's got dozens of users! ;) - Jeremy Toeman

Jeremy: you are such a comedian! - Robert Scoble

Alrighty then, I just sent Eli a tweet (http://friendfeed.com/e... ) with a plea. I hope I'm not taken for a crazy. Hmm, I know that could be my first reaction. - Micah Wittman

@Robert: caught up with an old buddy over a cigar, bottle of wine, and a few glasses of quality bourbon. and i have to be up at 6. so i'm having fun. ;) sorry we didn't get to catch up more at the 12seconds/uservoice party! - Jeremy Toeman

WTF!!! Nobody from India... ??? Am I the only one..:) - Devakishor

Well I was late to this party. Great idea Mark. I have all of New Zealand to myself! - Alistair (alpinefolk)

Turkey is on it must be. Anyhow, and Anyway, they'll be more Balloons One Day All Around Our World, BTW Thats a Great Daft Punk Track ain't it ;-D, Shall We Play it, and what Room shall we doeth Such? It Big enough for All. That is All. Time For Work Now, See You Laters, FriendFeed and Have A Nice But Try Not To Be too naughty Day. :)) - Jason

Reshared in my feed! - Flavio

Ditto. - Kol Tregaskes

Wow... I am the only person in VA. I expected a lot more people around DC. - Aram Zucker-Scharff

Ah... Aram, I'm in Virginia Beach, but I don't think it added me properly. - Ladybug Heather

we have someone in the middle of the Atlantic - Alejandro

http://uk.youtube.com/watch... - Jason

How did I miss this? Off to add my pin! - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)

same here! Ok just added mine a while ago (Irondequoit Bay near Rochester, NY)... look for sailboat! - Susan Beebe

Pin added. Great idea! - James Ferguson

2nd pin added in Italy! - Alessandro

Pin and 1m snow added in Helsinki. Great idea! - udo

pin added at OHSU in Portland, Oregon - Maureen

+1 pin at Debrecen, Hungary - Berci Mesko, MD

Why is Erhan Erdogan in the middle of the atlantic ocean on the map? Is he in the Bermuda Triangle or something? lol - Alan Le

@Micah, great job on recruitment. Eli has added himself and we now have all 7 continents filled. - Mark Krynsky

No Greenland luv, tho... - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)

Erhan probably got moved accidentally. When I got to the page, and was moving the map, I accidently grabbed someone and moved them to the middle of the Atlantic. Thankfully, it was someone who used a special icon, so it was easy to search and put them back. - Captain Bubbles

I put my self on the map... - Aline

Added, in the Norway. :) - Daniel Bruce

Added me in Texas! - Phil G

Added myself in the west Chicago suburbs. :) - Cheryl Jones

@Mark Such Coolness! And thanks Eli (http://friendfeed.com/elisfan...) - Micah Wittman

Bump for Leather Donut. - Rochelle

Hmm, apparently I'm just up the road from Haggis. - Rob Haas

I just added myself. Curious - how do you get different placemarks? I like the Google-looking ones that aren't quite raindrops. - Tamar Weinberg

Just an addendum to Spidra's explanation: To go back and edit, click the pushpin then click the "Edit" button (look waaay to the left on the page). Then you can click the icon to change, and you'll see Save button next to "Edit" - Micah Wittman

Oh cool. Nice job reviving this guys. Hopefully we get another good round of users to add themselves. - Mark Krynsky

Added! :) - AJ Batac

Neat! I was the product manager for My Maps when it launched. It's really cool to see it being used this way : ) - Jess Lee

Wow Jess. That must be so great to see your work utilized by others. It's definitely been a smashing success here. Thanks for sharing. - Mark Krynsky

+Jess! - Micah Wittman

Kind of frustrating to see how much time I spent on this map and then to find out someone had probably saved their changes over mine - hence mine was gone this entire time. Others should also check for this. In any event, thanks, Spidra, for the tip :) My other pet peeve is Google Maps scrolling incessantly out of nowhere. (Hi Jess.) - Tamar Weinberg

Added myself yesterday. I notice, thought, that you have to flip to page 2 ... Can't we show all the FFers on one map, regardless of the page ? - Ahsan Ali aka. Slick

How do I get myself added to the map? - Alex Scoble

done - Eric Reboisson

@Alex Scoble click the link in the main post, search your location, and add a placemark (the blue mark on left top of the map) - Eric Reboisson

done - Orsan Erksoy

Zee.

Americans! How many of you listen to BBC radio or read/watch any British publications,television or websites?

February 9 - Comment - Like - Share

LJF Wolffe, Ken Stewart | ChangeForge, Shankar Ganesh and 39 other people liked this

Anika said that she listened to BBC 1Extra which kinds surprised me...I watched a documentary about how a lot of Americans read online British newspapers like the Guardian online... - Zee.

83 more comments

I tend to read the bbc at least a few times a week. (I may skew the results though, as I work in the industry at the NYT) - Ted Roden

Quite a bit for me--BBC, London Times, Sky and the Guardian are daily reads, but I'm a Yank who keeps an office in London and has season tickets to Arsenal, so I'm probably not representative of most users. - Andrew Leyden

Sometimes I listen to World Have Your Say on NPR when I'm driving in to work, but that's about it. - Alex Scoble

I watch BBC America and subscribed to the BBC news website. - Sarah Peterman

I used to listen to 1Xtra a lot before they changed the lineups and programming a few years ago. We get the BBC America channel on TV but rarely watch it. That's about it. - Rochelle

I watch Gordon Ramsay's shows. - Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah

Currently I love How Clean Is Your House and You Are What You Eat - and older shows like The Young Ones and Red Dwarf. - Jason

I read the Times Online and the Guardian Online. - Nation Hahn

Sometimes I'll listen to BBC radio, but I have no clue when or where the BBC tv would be found. I don't watch much tv, so it's radio for this 'colonist'! - Morgan Haley

Watch BBC-America. I also uh.. find ways ... to watch British television before it hits the US. Most of the news I get is from the BBC. - Nine

I watch British shows (Doctor Who, Torchwood, Spaced, etc.) when I can, and BBCAmerica when I think about it. I hit the Guardian once in a while, but not regularly. - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF

Surprised you? :) I've been listening to 1Xtra for almost 7 years now. I also listen to the News stations and Radio 3. I don't watch anything besides LOST, but I read several UK dailies and magazines. Like the others, I may be unusual only because I have an unhealthy addiction to politics no matter the country. - Captain Bubbles

I went right to TV! But I read BBC news online too. - Jason

I download hella BBC TV and watch it when its reaired here. I love Being Human, watching the new season of Hustle, Dr. Who of course. I listen to BBC Radio one every now and then, mostly when it has people I like on there. - Richard Lawler

I am about to watch Masterpiece Classics "Wuthering Heights" and "Sense and Sensibility" right now - Shevonne

I watch a lot of BBC programming, but I haven't been exposed to any radio yet. - Joe Pierce

I should add that I have watched British TV shows (I was a serious East Enders addict in my teens), but I usually watch old shows like Are You Being Served, Keeping Up Appearances or As Time Goes By. Older Brits here in the states think I'm adorable for knowing those shows. Younger ones think I'm weird for watching them. <shrug> - Captain Bubbles

At 11:00 pm Pacific time, Fox Soccer Channel airs an hour of Sky Sports News. I'll watch it occasionally to get its perspective on various things, including American sports. - Ontario Emperor

nope. - MicahBear78

I do BBC TV and radio, as well as read The Guardian and subscribe to a british science magazine whose name escapes me right now. I've found that as far as news goes, I prefer something that is completely lacking that "American spin". :) - tinypants - Hagitha of FF

I listen to bBC World Service sometimes if I can't sleep. - Mol, Santa Claws

This is fascinating. So what is on BBC America? Is that like BBC 1 over there or a selection from all BBC channels? You guys need to listen to Radio 1 more, especially Zane Lowe. I believe Radio 1 is on a station in the US and is timed delayed to match in the UK (i.e. Zane Lowe is on at 7pm here and also 7pm in the US). - Kol Tregaskes

I guess we in the UK watch a lot of US TV shows but I still find the radio and newspaper thing odd. Why do you like 1Extra over a US station Anika and why do u guys prefer to read the BBC or the guardian over a US publication? One more question, do u reckon we'll one day have a "global Online dominant news site"? Iris that already the BBC? - Zee.

Listened to the Beeb on shortwave when I was a teen-ager and watched BBC World News off and on over the past several years. Regularly browse the Times and Telegraph websites. Subscribe to the Economist. Some of this because U.S. equivalents either don't exist or don't have the same level of international coverage. Also, it's interesting to read on U.S. news from the outsider's perspective. - Charles Fenwick

Kol: http://www.bbcamerica.com/ - Rochelle

wow and Eastenders Anika?? Unbelievable... :P But pretty damn cool I reckon - Zee.

I get there sometimes. Get BBC America on Dish Network and BBC World on XM. - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

I used to listen to BBC Radio at my old job. - Nine

I'm a huge Anglophile. 70% of my TV watching time is spent watching BBC America. I download, rent, or buy certain BBC shows if they aren't available to watch on BBC America, and I occasionally (if I have the time or if the topic/guest interests me) listen to some programs on BBC Radio. bbc.co.uk is my homepage and I tend to prefer getting my news from British publications/websites — largely for the same reason as Amanda, no "American spin". - Penguin It's Cold Outside

I started reading newspapers from other countries when I worked for a think tank, and BBC was one of them. I really liked their format and writing style, so I still go to it. - Shevonne

damn Penguin, you're hardcore! :) - Zee.

I just finished reading a book written by a Brit. Loved all the jargon that we don't use here. Deaf Sentence by David Lodge. - Trish Haley

Watch bbc on the dish. - Janet

I listen to BBC podcasts now and then (Radio 1 through 6) and sometimes to the streams. I watch BBC America shows when they intrest me (little tv does anymore) and grew up on rebroadcasts of BBC productions on local PBS stations. BBC World Report in the mornings I am awake and remember. - Michael W. May

BBC America is pretty awful vs. the full library of the BBC. We get some newer programs, occasionally, but always quite a bit late and you have to sit through endless 'Crap in the Attic' and other rather tedious programming. For example Season 1 of Ashes to Ashes will start next month, nearly a year after it ran in the UK (and most people downloaded the torrents). They're trying to do better, have more cutting edge current programming, but during the day it's pretty awful - Andrew Leyden

BBC World Service Junkie --> - Johnny Worthington

I listen to BBC when broadcast on the local public radio station - Sally: gift wrapper

Got the BBC, Times, and the Guardian in my RSS reader. Like to get a perspective on the world outside of what I normally get at home with American news. Plus I gotta get my top gear fixes - BCK

I started listening to 1Xtra one night with my husband. They were playing all this old dub. Been hooked ever since. I read papers from other countries to get a different viewpoint. It amuses me to see what a politician is willing to say to the BBC, but would never say to an American paper. - Captain Bubbles

Kol, I'll back up Andrew on the horridness of BBC America. It's like BBC light. Most of the shows I've seen advertised on there are usually already available on DVD. - Captain Bubbles

Yep, local NPR affiliate has World Service running 10pm-4am, and The World (BBC/WBGH/PRI). Lucy Kellaway's contributions are always good for a laugh. - coldbrew

listen to the bbc regularly. - Bren, Not Grinchy

D'uh, I forgot the TV shows I watch (ie. Torchwood, Dr. Who, Are You Being Served?, The Young Ones, Ab Fab....). I also subscribe to the BBC Entertainment feed at Twitter. - Mol, Santa Claws

BBC news is way better in the morning. They never try and be cute and I love that. - MarkCarras

Watch a few BBC America programs (Top Gear, Dragons Den, sometimes Ramsay stuff) , online I regularly read the BBC and the Times Online, sometimes Guardian online - and miss the Sunday papers from London ... - Patrick Jordan

All the time. I'd gladly give the Beeb a "TVTax" to be able to watch iPlayer. Beeb programming is a hundred fold better than anything here in the States. - Michael Collins from twhirl

I don't get why the Beeb doesn't allow other countries to see their stuff online? I'd do anything to watch TV shows there. I just recently got into Mi-5 and I used to watch EastEnders (the local PBS station played it and then BBC America showed it for a while). I had a HUGE crush on Wicksy (Nick Barry). :P - Mol, Santa Claws

I watch BBCA and I watch BBC News on public television. It's where the real news is. - Holli B. from twhirl

I download all the British podcasts I can get every day, watch a good bit of BBCA, and look at the BBC news site once or twice a week. We don't get much in the way of in-depth international news, although NPR does a pretty good job with recognizing that there are other places on the planet besides USA. - Nancy Sheets

I download the BBC Newspod podcast every day, in addition to watching BBC World News on BBC America. - Steven Perez

I read the Financial Times front page articles every day. Of course, I live in London... - Zach Landes

oh and Little Britain! - Jason

I watch a great many shows on BBC America, Coupling, Doctor Who, among others, and Matthew Frey is probably my most trusted news anchor. - Matthew DeVries

I only listen to stories shared to me via social media, I guess. - Tamar Weinberg

I watch BBC-A, lune in to the World Service once in a while, and watch what I can. Need to get my footy and Gavin and Stacey fix. - Michael Molinar from twhirl

BBC news, BBC radio, Guardian, Telegraph, more... [and yes, Dr. Who] - Anthony Citrano

Yes, but then I'm British and American :-) - Sally Church

Grew up on BBC shortwave radio back in India - Deepak Singh

Doctor Who FTW. BBC news ain't bad either - Eric P

Grew up on BBC shortwave in Alaska. Then later their tie-in with NPR rotted them at the core. - Douglas Hopkins

Read a bunch of online news sources, watch as many shows as possible, listen to the world service on the radio. - Amber, Random Time Lord

I'm quite shocked how popular BBC-related stuff is outside of the UK. Amazing. Good really, I browse lots of news sites from all over the place but the BBC sites are still the best, the TV is by far the best (beats anything on Sky and Cable) and their radio shows, especially Radio 1 is top class. Why? Well apart from the quality of programmes, there are no bloody adverts!!! :-) - Kol Tregaskes

For people not just in America but around the World, I've worked with several people that tell me the BBC World Service is excellent. What do you think? - Kol Tregaskes

Hmm, how is the BBC America service, out of interest? - Tyson Key

I visit the BBC news website often. Economist is I also read a lot of British articles from Google News - Mitchell Tsai

Someone commented on about how lousy the content was during the day, whilst I agree, it's not all that different from the daytime content shown on BBC in the UK :) - Nick

I tune into bbc.co.uk - Mike Reynolds

Can you participate even if you're neither American nor English? - Peter Efland

-------> - Pete Delucchi

Sometimes I watch CNBC early in the morning when they are showing the overseas version. - Mathew™ one of a kind

Zee, I don't listen to US radio because the hip-hop they play sucks. I can only hear Garth Trinidad *maybe* play some Dancehall.1Xtra, plays all of the music I like (except drum & bass, I got over that in the mid-90s). I get to hear songs in the comfort of my own home. Otherwise, I'd have to go to an indie record store for suggestions. - Captain Bubbles

that would be me BBC is about 60% of what I watch on TV - Dan Morrill AKA Techwag

I love BBC radio. - ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift

@Jason Huebel Yes, there will be a second season of Merlin! They said it'll come out late summer, around September. - Nick

i am amazed. - Zee.

I've noticed that BBC America also airs shows from other UK Networks. - Nick

I listen to BBC world service as a podcast. - Christian Burns

BBC World News is better than almost anything we have here in the US... Newshour with Jim Lehrer is the only program I'd say is on par or perhaps slightly better - Jeffrey Canton

We listen to the BBC World News on our XM radio a lot. It's refreshing to have a news report that's not totally focused on US problems (there are other people in the world with problems too). - Lindsay

BBC radio on NPR - Martha

BBC radio on ABC News Radio - Duncan Riley

BBC radio (on NPR), read BBC news feeds in Twitter - William Harryman

I'm an American living in London, but consume very little British media... don't even have broadcast TV service. I occasionally watch shows through BBC iPlayer (Hustle and Little Britain are faves). I also read Guardian Web site pretty regularly. I watch a lot of US TV and movies, primarily through iTunes, Netflix and Hulu. - Jon Price

forgot to say... before I moved to London I watched a few shows on BBC America (Footballers' Wives and Mile High were guilty pleasures) and regularly watched football matches on FSN. - Jon Price

Kol Tregaskes

Rotational illusion - http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitao...

February 9 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

mridul, Mahdi Ebrahimi, Phil Crissman and 3 other people liked this

My head hurts now! ;- - Kol Tregaskes from Bookmarklet

Ouch - Tyson Key

The Apple Room: David Bisset (sn)

‘The Oregon Trail’ Coming to iPhone - http://toucharcade.com/2009...

February 9 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Cee Bee, Carmen, robin k and 5 other people liked this

Robert Scoble

David Allen, author of "Getting Things Done" is now on Twitter at @gtdguy -- looking forward to more GTD tips.

February 9 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Lin Yong, randulo, Gordon Vaughan and 20 other people liked this

Cool follow!! Thanks Robert! - Susan Beebe

4 more comments

I know twitter is the biggest time zap for me anymore, so it'll be fun to see how he manages twitter and keeps up his GTD habits. - BCK

Just followed him, what a brilliant guy! - Steven (optionshiftk)

can i rent him to sort my emails? :-) - natadd from twhirl

follow must have - Ken Stewart | ChangeForge

Should have seen him speak at Lotusphere Robert - he was amazing - John Head from twhirl

Reinier Meenhorst

@niels_bom Thx! Firebug Lite is great for CSS debugging in Safari, IE!

February 9 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman liked this

Cennydd

The Onion hits the nail on the head again: http://www.theonion.com/content... (Contains gratuitous swearing and thinly-veiled UX references).

February 9 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman liked this

Morton Fox

"Overreact, Overthink" by Peter Navarro, Ph.D. FSO Editorial 02/09/2009 - http://www.financialsense.com/editori...

February 9 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Phil Crissman liked this

"The Obama Administration is overthinking the current recession because, in a panic, its economic team sees no light at the end of the recessionary tunnel. This is despite the fact automatic stabilizers such as falling energy prices, falling home prices, falling interest rates, and diminished wage pressures are already beginning to reinvigorate the economy. Accordingly, the Journal's editorial is correct that the Obama fiscal stimulus package is way overdone. The only fiscal stimuli that should be considered are ones that can get right into the pipeline through the rest of 2009 and ones that stabilize the housing market." - Morton Fox from Bookmarklet

Steven Hodson

ROFLMAO ... $TIMATOR (http://www.stimator.com/) says WinExtra is worth $122,607 USD

February 4 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

Richard ¿digame? Walker, Phil Crissman, Dobromir Hadzhiev and 13 other people liked this

Ok, I've got two un-oppened Mr. Mister CD's (was going to sell the to Mark Wilson but...) 3 cuecats (unused) a case of Obama Chia Pets, 1,000 (that's US Steven) fun bucks from Charles E. Cheeses, 1,000,000,000 shares of Circuit City, and a hockey stick. Going to make a hostile take over attempt on WinExtra, wish me luck in my corporate raidings! - michael sean wright

24 more comments

@ NFF ... ROFLMAO - Steven Hodson

louisgray.com: $172,334. Must break this. - Louis Gray

How sad. I am only worth 8k. I think I'm going to go slit my wrists now. THANKS A BUNCH STEVEN HODSON. - Mona Nomura

Michael, I think you should be paying me to take the Mr. Mister CD's. - Mark Wilson

My blog CodingExperiments (http://codingexperiments.com) is worth USD $34k. Not bad for a sorta-multi-author blog run in the free time of a few busy nerds. - Rishabh Mishra (p248)

wouldn't that be great Mark to see on eBay Mr. Mister CD -$3.00 we'll pay you it's a downward bidding ploy - michael sean wright

michaelhocter.com is worth $1,890. That seems about right. - Michael Hocter

Woah what the? All my sites score under $5000, but my Friendfeed at http://friendfeed.com/mokargas is $1,154,325 *enters in mona's* EDIT: Mona's is the same, must be the TLD - Mo Kargas

sell sell sell - Allen Stern

Mo, my ff is also worth $1,154,325. I wonder if all of them are. - Michael Hocter

My domain (homepage is directory listing and nothing else) is worth $69. I like the number so much, its taken off the market :) - jcunwired

LOL!!! $52,746 wow, wonder if I put it on a balance sheet for a bank loan if it would count... :) - Karoli

$36K...I can buy that new car I've been dreaming about. - Hutch Carpenter

Looks like it values www at $12,757,272 - Christian Anderson

i love how the numbers spin - it's like a game! c'mon no whammie! - Allen Stern

Michael, yeah it looks like it drops down to the physical domain, so any kind of directories wouldn't work. Wonder if subdomains work though. - Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ

Nope, the thing is totally busted. There is no way regulargeek.com is worth $313,759. If it is, I am willing to accept offers :) - Rob Diana

$568,835 for Lighter Footstep. Maybe I can borrow grocery money against that. ;-) - Chris Baskind

Subdomains work. My tumblelog (http://tumblelog.michaelhocter.com) is worth $16,617, which is simply ridiculous. - Michael Hocter

Rob - that big day you had on Digg a while ago is paying off - Hutch Carpenter

Hutch, it is not paying off unless somebody is buying :) Still waiting for offers people! - Rob Diana

$240,748 for KnightKnetwork.com - @Louis I'd be willing to trade if you'll throw in a little extra $ to sweeten the deal - David Knight

uh-oh looks like they tinkered with it I'm down to just over $29,000 If only I could have found a buyer earlier!!! - David Knight

not sure what tinkering they did with their calculation but my worth just went up to $147,335 .. so I made $25G' overnight .. not bad :) - Steven Hodson

Oh NOES Now I'm down to $5395!!!!! How am I going to refinance before the balloon payment hits! Bail me out quick! - David Knight

Sid Burgess

YouTube - Princess Bride - Anybody Want A Peanut - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

February 3 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Bryan Clark, Tyson Key, Micah Wittman and 6 other people liked this

Inconceivable! - Andrew Dobrow

auto-like - Micah Wittman

"Joey"

Like my new hair? Do tell me how you feel about it!

January 29 - Comment - Like - Share

Darren Heydon, cris, Varun Shenoy and 57 other people liked this

ZOMG - Josh Haley

16 more comments

LOVE IT - Shevonne

Stellar. - Ms. G.Warbucks IYN

that's awesome - mjc

That could be the dog of Comb-over Guy I saw yesterday. - Captain Bubbles

That dog's name is Kevin. - Christopher Harley

And to think, people said the toupee was going out of style. - Davis Freeberg

Dog Blagojevich - Kevin Pedraja

poco peluca! - Phil G

Yo queiro Deesco! - Josh Haley

He got the Blagojevich -

aww. Poor dog. No. - Ryo / Fuck Facebook

I love it! - Helen Sventitsky

Yo dawg, I heard you like wigs, so I put a wig on your dog so you can dog while you wig? - Christian (Simply X)

I'm sorry, but why is Angela Merkel's wig in my FF stream? - WorldofHiglet

BWAAAHAHA - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

OMG!!!! *lol* - Mol, Santa Claws

cute! - Ian May

Captain Bubbles

Pancakes shaped decorative pillows. - http://www.sofagarden.com/bfast...

January 31 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

Darren Heydon, Wirehead, Smeerch and 42 other people liked this

"Breakfast food has never been so much fun. Calorie free cotton and certain to last for years. The Pancakes Pillow is four pieces in one and comes complete with pat of butter" - Captain Bubbles from Bookmarklet

10 more comments

Now people can eat their pillow on purpose -

I have no idea what you're talking about so here's a picture of my head on a pancake..... zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....zzzzzzzz......zzzzzzzzzzz.... - teh Dork Knight aka Kenny

Isn't there a condition where people sleep-eat? This might be dangerous. - Rob Haas

I want! - Todd Jordan

I want the french toast - Eric @ CSTechcast.com

WANT - Amber, Random Time Lord

Brings new meaning to biting your pillow... - Fancy Fembot

How much do I love this? I don't know. A lot. - Yolanda

I want the pancakes! - Elena

dreaming of breakfast can sometimes be a good thing. - Thomas Hawk

About time - Blake Caldwell

Phil Crissman › Likes