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"Take It Take Your Life"
Jérôme Flipo liked this
The English slogan printed on a sports fashion shop here in China. Another one I saw today: "Baby Not Favor", the title of a CD with songs for your baby.
- Philipp Lenssen
When you want to upload something to Google Docs, Google writes: "You also agree to not upload or share any content that you do not have the legal right to share."
Jérôme Flipo liked this
Rephrased: You can't upload something for which you don't have the legal right to share. What if I want to edit something for personal use, with no intent of sharing? Can't I make personal use of copyrighted stuff in the cloud?
- Philipp Lenssen
What if John shares publicly a folder in which Bill has added a file that contains a copyrighted photo? It may be easier to blame Bill.
- Jérôme Flipo
"A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference. Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?" - http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki...
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Most movies are forgettable, but there are some that I keep remembering. This is one of them.
- Paul Buchheit
you should read the graphic novel, it's far superior to the film
- Harjeet Taggar
April has it but claims that the movie is better. I guess she just doesn't know :)
- Paul Buchheit
I agree with Jarjeet.
- Paolo Ferrandi
I have to admit that I haven't read it cover to cover. I think at this point the shock and awe from seeing the effects from the movie has well worn off that I can focus on the story.
- April Buchheit
from iPhone
The book rewards repeated readings. When I was a young'un, I actually skipped over all the supplementary material at the end, and I barely got what the point of the pirate comic was.
- Andrew C
Alan Moore reads from Rorschach's journal: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Graham Sergeant
As an early teen when I first read the graphic novel, I was pretty floored. I remember it differently, I liked Dr. Manhattan much more in the novel.
- Mark Essel
I agree with Taggar -- I enjoyed both, but the movie only met expectations after reading the graphic novel. And the novel has a whole other interleaved story line which is really interesting in that format.
- Michael Leggett
Still pondering whether to see the movie, having looked at the panels of the graphic novel over and over years ago. Many things of the comic book are plays right within the medium of the comic (like symmetric page layouts etc.) and the panels are made for slow studying to delve into the references and puzzles, which takes time. To get an idea, take a look at the annotated Watchmen, e.g....
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- Philipp Lenssen
"[T]he thing that bothers me most about Google CEO Eric Schmidt's comment is that it makes clear that he simply doesn't understand privacy. That a company with so much user data on its servers is led by someone who just doesn't understand privacy is really scary to me and it should be scary to you as well." (Mozilla community manager Asa Dotzler)
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Wondering if we really need to see these tweets in real time on Google search results.... the quality of these tweets seems to be very low. Maybe Google should be filtering tweets.. Not sure how this is useful at all to someone searching Google for "Tiger Woods"
Symon Muchina Thuo, mohammadk, TH Schee and 20 other people liked this
I was dreading this, knowing it was coming sooner or later, it degrades your search precision
- sofarsoShawn
I think this will only increase twitter spam :(( Google is usually very very religious about their search result quality... not sure how this got through...
- Bindu Reddy
Exactly, the more you tweet, the better your chances are for a site hit
- sofarsoShawn
interesting. didn't even realize there's these kinds of google search results now. thanks for the heads up!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Yup, I am writing a bot that scrapes Google trends, extracts search terms and writes tweets every 2 minutes with those search terms :)
- Bindu Reddy
New SEO pioneering! I want in! & it's also not just Twitter, but also Jaiku, identi.ca Myspace, FriendFeed & Facebook. & Bing (except for FB & TW) won't be including them in their search results.
- sofarsoShawn
I the quality of all tweets seems to be very low.
- Gabe
Oh bleh. Just tried a search for "snow". The realtime results are very distracting. Let us opt out, or put it on the side somewhere.
- Laura Norvig
from iPod
It's good to bring more users to twitter though, as they keep getting twitter rubbed into their face. That being said I should try that search.
- Richard A.
Interesting. So you can try spam these services, and get a high position on Google immediately. But filtering... based on what? The usual filters work on authority which in turn often works on ratings, citations, backlinks etc., and these won't be real-time because people first have to see and digest the message in question in order to link, cite and rate it.
- Philipp Lenssen
It auto-updates and that is an interesting feature. That's something I could see some use for :-)
- Richard A.
On the spam and SEO topic. Don't you think it'd measure retweet strength. If a lot of people retweet a subject then the link would be more relevant/interesting than if just one person retweets. Sorry for going slightly off topic. As an aside do retweets move back up to the top of the search? Should try cop15 and see how it behaves.
- Richard A.
@Philipp: smart question (as usual). I guess that Google's rank/filter could be based not on the tweet, but on the tweeter: e.g. someone who has many followers is a good source, etc. E.g. Google too should (in this case) change its paradigm, switching from a "web of pages" to a "web of people".
- milivella
@Philipp You have nailed the issue :) It is really really difficult to get a good grip on "quality" if the information/data is real-time. I still can't really figure out what the motivation behind doing something like this on the Google main search results is.
- Bindu Reddy
Am I the only one here who is using Topsy http://www.topsy.com on a daily basis to cut through Twitter noise? Works like a charm. News recommender systems are the Next Big Thing.
- Sean McBride
Sean, I'm on twitter for the conversations :-). I looked at topsy and I'll have to play with it, see how I could have fun with it.
- Richard A.
Richard A. -- I use Friendfeed for conversations (much more capable for that activity than Twitter, in my opinion). And I use Topsy to identify and grab the most important news on specialized topics flowing through Twitter. To each his or her own.
- Sean McBride
Of course..
- Symon Muchina Thuo
"I believe that all other political states are in fact variations or outgrowths of a basic state of anarchy; after all, when you mention the idea of anarchy to most people they will tell you what a bad idea it is because the biggest gang would just take over ..."
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"... Which is pretty much how I see contemporary society. We live in a badly developed anarchist situation in which the biggest gang has taken over and have declared that it is not an anarchist situation" -Alan Moore
- Philipp Lenssen
Effect Games - http://www.effectgames.com/effect...
web-based toolkit for making and sharing hosted JS games; see the platformer tutorial for an example
- Andy Baio
sounds very interesting but I wasn't able to reach the site so far...
- Philipp Lenssen
It seems that there is no word for "the long term"
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future?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
posterity?
- SuezanneC Baskerville
future could be short-term
- Paul Buchheit
eternity - to me, "future", without qualifiers, out of context, means from right after right now till the end of time.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
longevity?
- Mitch
perhaps the phrase "the long term" is short enough there is no need for a single word for the idea, particularly if it turned out to be a three syllable word
- SuezanneC Baskerville
The lack of a word might imply something. Anyway, words like "eternity" clearly aren't the same when you think about "long term parking" or "investing for the long term".
- Paul Buchheit
Longtermedness
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
'Investing for longevity' works. Pay up.
- Mitch
Probably should check with someone who speaks Chinese. They may have a word for it since they seem to actually think about it unlike the U.S./U.K.
- Ed Millard
perhaps a phrase that includes both the time interval one would associate with "long term parking" and the duration that goes with "long term investment" doesn't need a word because it's not specific and distinct enough to merit a word, given that it can mean either a week or many decades.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
It is a relative word.
- ashish
In German you can put any number of words together to form a new word. Our word for long term is "langfristig". (World Health Organization for instance is "Weltgesundheitsorganisation".)
- Philipp Lenssen
PS: Auto-translating "long term" to Chinese and back results in, among others, "enduring" and "perennial". Thesaurus.com offers "lasting", "longstanding", "perpetual", "lifelong" and more.
- Philipp Lenssen
Wondering why it is so difficult to change people's minds esp. using clear logical thinking.. for example, it is very difficult to "argue with someone" and make them see light. However influencers likes TV programs, press articles etc tend to be far more effective at changing someone's point of view... though, even that happens slowly and subtly...
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If you tell a lie often enough people believe it. That's marketing.
- Alex Scoble
and politics, Alex.
- Josh Haley
Yes but try convincing a friend about something and you might get into an ugly argument very soon.
- Bindu Reddy
Critical thinking is no longer taught in schools.
- Jeremy (quasimodo)
Critical thinking was never taught in schools...at least not K-12
- Alex Scoble
I've found this to be true in the medical world (at least in the birthing world I'm familiar with). An influencer like a doctor can tell a patient something and they will take it as gospel but it's impossible to get them to change their mind using logical thinking, pointing out research, etc. So many women want to believe their doctor's comment over a stack of verified medical research...
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- Rochelle
the main reason? because dumb asses never listen! :-)
- Morgan Haley
And Morgan wins the thread...LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Gotta use emotion. What I don't understand is why we Dems won't use the tactics that work. We continue to use logic and facts, when we could marshal just as compelling emotional images and simple soundbites. How come we could win an election with Yes We Can, but we can't pass healthcare with some version of the truth writ large and emotional? What's wrong with this as an ad headline, or...
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- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
It's a complex thing. One has to see for oneself that there's a need to change. One has to be open for change as well. The animal stuff also kicks in with some people... if you make a superior argument or point, even if it's good, some people may not acknowledge it .. just because they perceive it as threat.
- Vipul Rawat
You probably change people's minds often. But it's a lot easier to notice when you don't change their cussed minds.
- Larry Hosken
Vipul. interesting point about the animal instincts trying to perceive superior arguments as threats. I am also wondering if there is a evolutionary advantage to "digging in" and trying to win arguments...
- Bindu Reddy
Bindu, it often just takes a night's sleep for us to truly internalize a good new concept. We humans sometimes go from "No that can't be, it sounds good but if it sounds so good why didn't I know about it before!" to, on the next morning, "Yeah, that's what I always thought, too!" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Philipp Lenssen
ha ha... Philipp that is pretty funny... Yes, I almost always get up the next morning and think - "that was my idea" :)
- Bindu Reddy
Things like television/films, books, even the odd blog post don't seem as adversarial as having someone who's sitting in the room tell you "you might be wrong"
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
...because some people respond to logic, others to emotion, and the rest are simply irrational (i.e. crazy), they can respond to anything on a whim in unpredictable ways. i think that the first key to convincing someone about anything is understanding how they think and see things. and I think you can get a clue on that by first being a good listener... it's the logical thing to do. ;-)
- .LAG liked that
I personally find it hard to get the brain out of the head to be the hardest part of changing some ones mind.
- Santa CW™
CW... it can get a bit messy i think...
- .LAG liked that
.LAG, agree listening is always a good idea... However I have no idea how to use emotion to change someone's minds. In most cases, it's usually a friend that I am speaking to and I just simply don't engage in a argument when I disagree on something.
- Bindu Reddy
imho the advertising/marketing industry currently has more insight into human nature/consciousness than any field of science. That's scary.
- Lo
What Paul said. If you're interested, read up more on behavioral economics; Dan Ariely's book "Predictably Irrational" is a particularly good introduction.
- Tudor Bosman
Just finished that book a couple of days ago. I heartily second the recommendation.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Plus you have a boat load of people who let their Belief influence their logic. Resulting in blindly following just any idea popping into their mind as the absolute truth. You could write books on this subject, bet I could get some out two. Be kind love your neighbors do not follow propaganda.
- ThatDBD
I recommend reading "The Political Mind" by George Lakoff (http://www.amazon.com/Politic...). He explains how logical argument can actually reinforce the other side's position, in politics and in other places in life.
- Evan Parker
Regarding the critical thinking: why rely on a school, isn't that where parents play a role.
- Stephan Planken
Aristotle described this over 4000 years ago in his writings on rhetoric. Reasoned argument (logos) on its own is not enough. Equally important are pathos (emotional engagement) and ethos (perceived credibilty of the one doing the persuading).
- Tim Ostler
from BuddyFeed
I think the point is that unless you can connect with someone emotionally they will just file your argument with all the other facts they come across in their everyday life which they haven't the time or motivation to assimilate.
- Tim Ostler
from BuddyFeed
I agree with you Tim. As a trial lawyer ... my experience has been that it's more than just presenting the facts to a jury ... it is also about connecting with them or better having them connect with your client that wins them over. But that connection is, as .LAG said, achieved by understanding a bit about them and arranging your facts accordingly.
- laosan
@nor, the thought occurred to me when I realized that off late I don't even bother to argue with people I dis-agree with any more. I simply smile and move on, knowing that an argument only results in bad blood and the other person not being convinced of anything... I was thinking more in the context of arguing with friends.. most of the discussion here is however centered around the idea of influencing people which is fascinating.
- Bindu Reddy
In the interests of accuracy I should point out an error in what I said about Aristotle that may damage my ethos! He actually lived only 2350 years ago...
- Tim Ostler
This is sad, but I guess most people just choose/prefer to accept ready-made easy explanations delivered by celebs/talk show hosts as the truth. People are tood busy and tired and worried about their tiny world of everyday life and related problems; that makes them too lazy too want to think. Everyone prefers ready-made truths. Served chopped and chewed into their minds. :(
- Olivia Lovag
from twhirl
Imagine that you are about to be reincarnated (as a baby human) and can pass along 140 characters of advice. What would you say?
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Assume that the baby will be born into circumstances similar to your own, if necessary...
- Paul Buchheit
Wow, that's a stumper of a question! :)
- Susan Beebe
Learn all that you can, be noble, true, humble, love much. Seek wisdom from your family and friends
- Susan Beebe
I wouldn't need 140 characters: "in whatever you do, strive to do it as well as you possibly can." 64.
- Bren -- feeling merry
from iPhone
Floss. :)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
"It's mostly an illusion"
- Paul Buchheit
Never stop learning, enjoy the little things, cherish friends & family, try your best, keep an open mind, and indulge yourself occasionally.
- Nathan Chase
chase your passions, the rest follows. observe everything. work, love and play hard. change happens. live full and balanced. 3
- Charles Ying
What goes around comes around.
- imabonehead
I think Nathan has it! At least he said exactly what I would have written. :-)
- Victoria Plautia
Don't panic.
- Penguin It's Cold Outside
from fftogo
Risk is not an option. And eat your vegetables.
- Micah Wittman
Study Thomas, he has more answers than anyone else you will read.
- Alex Scrivener
Number to a Swiss bank safe containing cash, guns and numerous passports. Yes, it is from a movie.
- Peng-Toh
.....so are we trying to guess the meaning of life here? essentially I think that's what this question boils down to. I only need two characters:
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
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- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
Fear the fail whale.
- Jim Norris
"If you think you already know the answer, you will never know the answer"
- Paul Buchheit
Alex, which Thomas?
- Paul Buchheit
Plastics, my boy.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
from iPod
You're a towel!
- Raphael, Raphael
Don't fear the fail whale.
- Paul Buchheit
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, if you were in their position.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Everything is transitory.
- John E. Bredehoft
Don't tell them I told you this. They'll think you're nuts!
- Larry Hosken
"There's always an easier way"
- Paul Buchheit
I'm surprised no one's quoted Kurt Vonnegut yet. :)
- April Buchheit
April, is that your advice or an observation?
- Clare Dibble
Observation.
- April Buchheit
Stay away from the mohel.
- Leo Laporte
Crush the enemy. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of the women.
- Chrimmus Tad
"Think big. Code small."
- Paul Buchheit
For April: "There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind."
- Paul Buchheit
Phase 1: Collect Handerpants; Phase 2: ?; and Phase 3: Profit
- imabonehead
Just wing it. It'll be cool.
- April Buchheit
Let's git rid of 140 chars nonsense limid.
- Petr Buben
"Reasonable men adapt to the world around them; unreasonable men make the world adapt to them. The world is changed by unreasonable men."
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, try telling April that next time she is frustrated with you; I'm sure it will help ;)
- Clare Dibble
Just told my son this tonight -- Leave the earth better than the way you found it.
- Joe
Don't be such an asshole, asshole.
- Rodfather
@Paul, Aquinas
- Alex Scrivener
"Don't believe it when people say you can't do something. Prove them wrong."
- Cristo
Assuming my reincarnated self has wifi and a smartphone, I might point him to Des'ree's 1990s pop hit: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Doug Beeferman
Treat others with respect. Feed your intellectual curiosity. Don't accept limits others place upon you and often, patience is required.
- Louis Gray
"Nobody else knows what's really going on either."
- Amber, Random Time Lord
LCD is better than plasma
- Alex Scoble
"Its not that bad, stop sh*tting yourself, ;)"
- chaz2b
++Leo, that sounds like very useful advice. :)
- Ruchira S. Datta
In the end it really doesn't matter, enjoy it while it lasts, do what makes you happy, try not to sabotage the happiness of others.
- April Russo (app103)
Don’t sweat the small stuff. It’s all small stuff.
- Laura Norvig
"Dear Reincarnated Self: my head is frozen with the Life Extension Foundation. To get cool advice pls unfreeze me at ur earliest convenience."
- Philipp Lenssen
"Dont be afraid to take chances or march to a different beat. In the end only the soul counts, don't sweat the small stuff. Listen, learn."
- Grant Bierman
Dr. Cable. Watch it. ;-)
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
I dare you to do better.
- Charles Ying
"Please ask the next generation to increase maximum message length."
- Ray Cromwell
BTW, Commander Data was able to get away with sending only 2 *bits* of information into the future/past to break out of a 'groundhog day' scenario. The message: 3
- Ray Cromwell
There once was a site called Twitter. It was worth a billion dollars...
- Sean Kelly
Exercise every day, learn to program asap. I have discovered a truly marvellous proof that these are the right things to do which this twee
- j1m
"I've finally discovered the secret to a contented and effective life, which for you, begins now. This joy can be yours. Just claim it by t" <snipped by character limit>
- Kurtiss Hare
Search for the will of the creator. Prefer the heaven of love to the hell of power.Every moment is unique.Train empathy. Give. [ yeah, I kept in the character limit! Twitter is like life sometimes, only, hu, more limitted :-]
- Willi Schroll
L^2>∞ love of life is greater then time and space. Compassion destroys the destroyer peace above me below me around me down me radiate peace
- Robert Higgins
That's easy: Join friendfeed as soon as possible.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
don't sweat it kid, you just got a do over...
- J. Abdul-Qahhar
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- Edward Coffey
"Propose multiple solutions to every problem. Or choose your own life."
- Ivo Danihelka
Learn Math.
- Alternating Reality Books
"Context is everything."
- Bruce Johnson
from BuddyFeed
@RayCromwell - see my first comment ;)
- Charles Ying
"Listen." The other 133 characters are superfluous.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Ray Cromwell has said it best *rofl* please increase message length!! It doesn't get any better than that! Words of wisdom!! :)
- John Tastad
Seek truth
- Shakeel Mahate
Love always wins. Don't sweat happiness: find joy. (ponders how to translate the "becoming a man" speech from Secondhand Lions into 140 characters...)
- Ladybug Heather
Remember to save often...data and money. Live life like you have a reset button.
- Brian Merriman
Ignore advice. You'll figure it out.
- Todd Hoff
I won't develop the ability to type until years later, so I guess my only advice is "Ga Ga" and "Ball."
- Fleagle
Frankie says RELAX
- VAL D. Zone
It's not just you, they're all crazy. Make as many friends outside the family as you can. You'll want to leave home. Do it. Don't look back. (this is a seriously awesome topic!)
- Lo
Follow your heart. Don't worry about failure because apparently reincarnation is real. Snooches!
- Kevin Fox
Dont let others decide for you what is good and right for you. Not even this message.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Learn your math. Especially Geometry. It will make your coding SO much more compelling!
- Joe Nickence
"Don't tweet"?
- Marcos
Actually, I prefer FF..
- ★ Soner Gönül
Well I won't list all 140 but 1 I will is: Do not live your life to live..Live it to die. In other words, prepare for death because all life is about is another chance to get it right so you can end Samsara.
- Merlyn Seeley
"In your past life, you never understood why people liked Twitter."
- Ryan Kaisoglus
the world is made of atoms
- bob
Crawl back in?
- dannysullivan
Use the force. Search your feelings. Live long and prosper.
- Charles Ying
When the time comes, cut the blue wire.
- David Gaw
There's always something bigger than you.
- Daisy
Dear new self: whatever you do, don't make all the same mistakes with your life that I did with mine. For example, you should never ever try [MAXIMUM MESSAGE LENGTH REACHED]
- s t e v e
Don't put twinkies on your Pizza.
- Will Higgins™
You, are fine. To hell w' 'em if they think you're not pretty/funny/smart/rich enough.
- Summer
Find Stuart Diamond and take his negotiation course when you're 16. Love yourself so you can love others. Also, reincarnation exists, and you were a geek in your previous life.
- Daniel Dulitz
Don't wish for what you aren't. Life will be far more interesting than you could ever expect. Play with the cards you're dealt, and have fun
- Bette Cooper
don't play safe gamble every day
- WarLord
Call me Stewie, bow now and pay later. Put another coal in the power plant so you can continue watching this homage and choke on the fumes. [140 and referenced Family Guy, ideology, commerce, ecology, choice, and lost will.]
- William 'Bill' McPhe
"Tom Cruise must be stopped. By any means necessary."
- Otto
Otto, you have room to add "--your mission, if you choose to accept it."
- Micah Wittman
Life is all about ass. You're either covering it, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, laughing it off, or trying to get a piece of it.
- Mona Nomura
Mona, you forgot the part about being one.
- April Russo (app103)
live!
- barbarars
Be kind to animals, nature, others & yourself. Do what you love. Love what you do. Never stop learning about the world around you.
- Bronson Harrington
Try to find the 140 characters you would pass along to your reincarnation.
- Eszter Susánszky
Nap.
- A Mitchell
"Pigasus was a pig and was a satiric candidate for President of the United States for the Youth International Party (Yippies)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
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"Led by Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin, Pigasus was purchased by Phil Ochs and the candidacy was announced during the massive protests at the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago. The Yippies demanded that Pigasus be treated as a legitimate candidate, with secret service protection and foreign policy briefings."
- Philipp Lenssen
Quizipedia - http://quizipedia.appspot.com/
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simple game with trivia scraped from Wikipedia entries
- Andy Baio
My friend and I created something similar in 2005 (http://www.wikitrivia.net/), nice to see them use multiple choice answers (we use freeform input with the first letter already solved).
- Philipp Lenssen
"This will be a breeze googling for."
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(From a Reddit comment referring to Google's new programming language "Go". Another comment: "That was my first concern with the language, but then I realized that if Google is developing it, they're definitely going to alter the search results in its favor." :) )
- Philipp Lenssen
...and the results for the game of go will go further down!
- milivella
I guess it could only be made worse if it was a language with a single letter (i.e. "C") or if it included special characters (i.e. "C#").
- Tony Ruscoe
Absolutely awesome: Go has Cobol-like SEO syntax: goto serp_pos_1 http://tag.us.com/_go-goto
- Sebastian
Support for Same-Sex Marriage by Age and State » Sociological Images - http://contexts.org/socimag...
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"The data supports the notion that younger people are more supportive of gay marriage than older people. I also think it’s interesting that, even in states that we normally consider quite hostile to gay rights (the ones at the bottom of the table), there is still a significant age difference: 18-29 year-olds in Alabama, for example, are more supportive of gay marriage than people 65 and older in Massachusetts. So, while we like to think about states as “liberal” or “conservative,” spreading out the data by age tells a much more complicated story."
- Jim Norris
from Bookmarklet
It'd be interesting to find out if preferences for the *same set* of people change as they age. If no, then all we have to do to improve same-sex rights is wait for a generation or two to snuff it. If yes, then it's a little harder.
- Aaron D'Souza
Would like to see a graph with "has internet" (do younger people more frequently use/ more regularly access the internet?)
- Philipp Lenssen
Where's the graph for polygamist marriage?
- Gus
Waiting a "generation or two" isn't going to do a whole lot for the gay community now. This is particularly true for elderly gay and lesbian individuals who are facing mortality and unable to secure inheritances etc for their partners.
- Soup
My guess is that open-mindedness comes with actually knowing people who are gay/lesbian/etc. and realizing that it's an inescapable part of who they are and just a different manifestation of the same powerful feelings of love and commitment that everyone feels. It also probably has to do with marriage being defined as a romantic notion these days rather than a more economic and social framework in the past. As evidence for this, I have nothing.
- Jim Norris
And I may not be the strongest gay-marriage supporter out there by any means... I mean, I'm ok with it and think it should be allowed, but only as long as I don't have to get gay married myself.
- Jim Norris
Nice, Jim, nice.
- Kelly
I concur, Jim Norris. :)
- Mona Nomura
from iPhone
Ah, so Jim, you support "weak" gay marriage, not "strong" gay marriage.
- Stephen Mack
Interesting. So even if attitudes by age remain constant, in 20 years, the 18 states from Pennsylvania up will be strongly pro gay-marriage, but the 22 states from Wyoming on down will remain opposed, even 40 years hence.
- j1m
And of course, the prediction is that attitudes by age will be far from remaining constant. Indeed attitudes toward gays seem to have made almost all of their progress in the last 15 years, afaict.
- j1m
"I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong."
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- Philipp Lenssen
I'm not a fan of gift cards. They are a ripoff by the stores. Many gift cards lose their value after a short time if not used, and they restrict the receiver to one store.
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/takes back Xmas gift cards intended for Cristo
- Louis Gray
Louis, those gift cards were for free visits to your blog. :)
- Cristo
<reconsiders>... /takes them back anyway
- Louis Gray
That's why I like Amazon gift cards...they have none of the limitations of which you speak.
- Alex Scoble
I always buy the AMEX ones for people.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
In retail, "breakage" is the percentage of gift cards that are never redeemed. Financially you have to recognize the liability forever, unless the state allows the retailer to start siphoning off the worth of the card over time. The breakage rate in general is astounding. For some types of retailers' gift cards, up to 40% are not redeemed, meaning the retailer gets to keep the cash as profit.
- Stephen Mack
I believe CA state law doesn't allow Gift Cards to be devalued...
- Ken Gidley
In WA gift cards can't have an expiration date. (I'm also not generally a fan of them, as they're restrictive, unless I know that is where someone shops all of the time.)
- Jennifer Dittrich
MVB - The AmEx ones slowly devalue, as well. I think the key in buying gift cards is to make sure that they are from a store (or restaurant) that someone uses regularly. If you buy me a gift card for a place like Cabela's, chances are I'll never use it, and will probably end up giving it away. If you buy me a gift card for WalMart or Outback or something, I'll definitely use it.
- Curtiss Grymala
I won't ever buy a credit card gift card. For one thing they charge you a fee when you purchase it and they always seem to have odd rules too. I just don't go there.
- Alex Scoble
Please send all unwanted gift cards to me, care of me, 1149 W 190th Street, Suite 1000. Gardena, CA 90248. Thank you.
- Morgan Haley
Morgan, you're probably just going to get a pile of poo in the mall now. :)
- Cristo
I'm always on the fence with Gift Cards. As Stephen Mack clearly stated, there are many cards that are never redeemed. This could be due to the person lost it, doesn't shop there or always forgets to bring it. I try to give cards to those that I know have use the ones I've given in the past. If I didn't hear about your restaurant experience or find out what you bought, it makes me rethink the following year.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
BTW- "breakage" is never a term I want to hear from someone at TiVo. I'm still quite happy with my two Lifetime Series 2s (upscaled to 1080i), thank you very much.... :-)
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I cannot agree more. Gift cards are just a way to get out more cash out of your pocket.
- ashish
Gift cards scream "I'm socially responsible enough to know I need to get you a gift at this point in time, but here, you pick it out, I can't be bothered."
- SAM
Why is it socially responsible to give people things at particular points in time? Something is seriously wrong with a society that depends on consumerism to thrive.
- Cristo
Convention? i.e. Birthday, Christmas ect... I think gift cards are cop outs at these times... gift cards given randomly=awesome.
- SAM
Why are we required to give gifts for birthdays and at Christmas? We have other conventions in society too, like when cigarette smokers their leave butts on the sidewalk when they're done with them.
- Cristo
I think gift giving can be a symbolic/thought filled/beautiful gesture even if, and sometimes especially when tied into a cultural convention. I just think the style/extravagance/consumerism aspect has gone too far... as we Americans and humans in general have a tendency to do.
- SAM
I have another convention that I've been following. It's called Craiglisting all the gifts that people give me and not buying stuff for people they don't need or want.
- Cristo
Are you completely anti-gift Cristo? If so, why?
- SAM
+1 SAM. These gestures are done with special yearly occasions because unfortunately we don't do them everyday or very rarely for no reason. So, it's a lazy way for us to remind yourself that you are appreciative of that person for all those times you never acknowledged it throughout the year.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
SAM, no. I give lots of gifts, but I rarely do it when I'm "suppose to." The reason I don't like receiving gifts unless it's something I really want, is because it creates extra work for me. This is more acute of late as I've been getting rid of stuff for the last three years thats accumulated over a lifetime. I also don't like the waste of natural resources and pollution that are caused by all the consumerism when it's unnecessary.
- Cristo
I agree on the "receiving gifts unless it's something I really want" part. That's why I personally like Gift Cards given to me (but from specific places).
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Anybody ever say "I already have this" or "look, my 50th Hawaiian shirt" while sitting around the Christmas tree? But my absolute favorite gifts are the ones engraved with your name, with your birthday or anniversary, and maybe your social security number, just to make sure you can't get rid of it. :)
- Cristo
Yes, I have admittedly. It's hard not to show disgust but some people are just horrible gift givers and they just don't get it. BUT it's the thought that counts even though I'd rather of had no gift than the one actually given (year after year). People know I'm picky, I sense you are too but their are still people who it's not clicked. Try to open that one gift up with a smile, get rid of the gift later.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I like a lot of what you and Mark are saying here... For me... gifts=good if they a) have thought behind them b) hit the target - i.e. are actually useful/appreciated by that person. Otherwise, i'd rather do without as well. Bad gifts to me just say someone doesn't really know me or has picked something up in haste to just go through the holiday motions = useless consumerism. What are some great gifts though? What's the best one you've ever gotten?
- SAM
+1 Ken! Fun tip: if you have an expired gift certificate, take it on a CA vacation or give it to a friend in CA. You can use them here.
- Lo
A Snow Blower. Why? It wasn't because it was expensive. The December before I had just moved into my first house. As a joke, I left on my parent's answering machine a message that apparently I sung "All I want for Christmas is a Snow Blower" during a major snow storm after shoveling. Naturally I completely forgot about this event. The next year, they got me one and I didn't expect it....
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- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
The only thing that comes to mind in recent years is leather driving gloves and a case of wine (Opolo) I liked. When I was a kid, there were lots of gifts I loved. E.g. Flexible Flyer sled, G.I. Joe stuff, bike, trampoline, swing set.
- Cristo
Cristo, I wish everyone had your attitude about gifts!
- Lo
I am happy to get anything............
- VAL D. Zone
It doesn't take a lot of money to come up with the perfect gift. What it takes is thought, and that thought is easy when you really care about someone. If I told you the best gift I ever got wasn't for me and it consisted of a couple of used books, a bag of rice, some chopsticks, ginger, soy sauce, etc; would you believe me? http://cranialsoup.blogspot.com/2006...
- April Russo (app103)
In Germany per law gift cards are good for X years no matter what the gift card says about its expiry date (e.g. minimum 2 years, not sure exactly). Not every store owner knows this law though, and service is often bad in Germany, so good luck investing energy to stand up for your right :)
- Philipp Lenssen
Yeah, gift cards don't lose value in CA.
- Beau Liening
from iPhone
Even if they don't lose value, a huge percentage are never redeemed -- lost, stolen, or stuck away somewhere, possibly because the recipient has no nearby locations.
- Stephen Mack
from iPhone
April: "What it takes is thought, and that thought is easy when you really care about someone. " -- Thought is rarely easy for me these days. Figuring out what people want that they don't already have seems like an unnecessary waste of time unless I'm an expert at something they are not.
- Cristo
And "the thought" in my case, is not to give me anything. That is the thought I am most appreciative of.
- Cristo
Would Jesus have wanted Christmas gifts?
- Cristo
@Cristo That's the thing, you don't have to "figure it out". When you care about someone, they are in your thoughts when you are apart. Those thoughts will guide you if you let them. You will see (or hear) things that remind you of them, constantly. That is where the gift ideas come from. Buy whatever makes you think of them. I can't shop for people I don't care about. It's forced...
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- April Russo (app103)
April, it's good you know how every other person thinks and feels. I must be from an alien race.
- Cristo
My gifts are not based on what they think and feel. I give from my thoughts and feelings.
- April Russo (app103)
So do I. Which is why I don't subscribe to corporate calls for gift giving at specified times of the year.
- Cristo
It took a long time to get my husband to understand what I was talking about and stop giving me cash for Christmas. I got really tired of it one year and handed him back the cash and sent him out and told him to spend it on anything and everything that reminded him of me. He never made it past the supermarket on the corner and I ended up with some odd gifts, but it showed me what was...
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- April Russo (app103)
The gift I give my wife is helping to clean out all the crap people have given us. It's the thought that counts, and the thought should be "Don't waste resources and fill people's living spaces up with crap."
- Cristo
If you read the blog post I linked to, you would have seen that the most thoughtful gift I was referring to was when someone made my daughter smile, by applying the same gift giving principles I was talking about. He cared about me, and therefore listened to me, and got to know my daughter through me. He sent her a gift that was so perfect for her, yet none of her real life friends knew...
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- April Russo (app103)
April, I don't remember if I read your blog post. My general principle stands. Are there exceptions? Probably. But the reality is that as a macro phenomenon, it's not a net good. And sorry if I didn't read your blog post, but I'm not too into blogs. I'm on FriendFeed for the conversation, and not much else.
- Cristo
Also, why was your husband giving you cash as a gift? Seems weird. My wife buys whatever she wants, so the only time I need to give her cash is if she hasn't gone to the ATM lately.
- Cristo
Maybe I come from a different world than you. There are no ATM machines and we rarely ever have money in our pockets. I usually don't get what I need, nevermind what I want. I usually have to make due with whatever we have and make it work in ways it was never intended.
- April Russo (app103)
Um, okay. If you are poor and live somewhere that is technology repressed, I feel for you. But shouldn't that motivate you to save or work towards changing that position? It doesn't seem like a good argument for the consumeristic gift-giving I'm arguing against.
- Cristo
My gift giving usually isn't very consumerist and I am frugal to a fault. And I am working to change that position I am in, but currently we are in a very deep hole and it is taking a long time for me to dig us out of it. If you want to help, I have some software on my site you can try, and if you like it you can donate what you think the software is worth. http://appsapps.info
- April Russo (app103)
Almost nobody understood my earlier webapp idea, so I'll try again. Imagine you were looking at a website such as FriendFeed and you wanted to create a near pixel-perfect copy but in a way that you could move things around, adjust shadows, etc. I want a tool that makes that easy.
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And without taking screenshots or copying the html, since the point is that it should have the power to quickly create something that looks just like our current ui. Also, it should be web based, because then fonts, etc will be right, and also I hate installing things. My previous attempt at explaining this: http://friendfeed.com/e... (Balsamiq is not what I want). It does not need to produce html though, so it can cheat anyway it likes.
- Paul Buchheit
So you wanna something like "html to png/psd"? Editable graphical interface with layers and stuff?
- Selim Yoruk
No, not at all. My point is that you could look at the the FriendFeed ui (with your eyes) and then create something that looked just like it.
- Paul Buchheit
Fireworks is pixel perfect, correct font sizes and previews image in browser. Yes/No?
- Toby Graham
Are you looking for something like what is mentioned in this article - http://www.labnol.org/interne...
- Atul Arora
Are you want something like web-based rich page editor which works with objects in manner the human see them and want change them?
- gmarketer
I guess it's difficult to explain something that doesn't exist :(
- Paul Buchheit
thats piracy!!!
- Arjun
Paul, I like the idea, it's got merit. There's plenty of tools that do half the job, that is, snip the page. The second part, i'm not overly familiar with the tools out there. The manipulation. I guess you could snip the page, and embed into your tool a js library, like scriptaculous, and attach special event significance to the controls/tags, for moving, dropping, dragging.
- Stu Andrews
I think I get what you mean now and I agree. That's not very helpful but hey. In the mean time you could edit the page live using firebug maybe?
- Toby Graham
It seems to me like you want the Visual Studio Win Forms designer for web apps hosted and served to designers as a web app. Drag and drop elements onto the page and adjust their properties in a property grid. Then send a link to others so you can share your concept.
- Eric Schoonover
For this, I use simple vector graphics editing app, like Xara or InkScape - I just make screenshots and use them as raw building blocks - usually I cut out from them small elements like controls/text-blocks/images/etc... In vector graphics enironment managing such kind of blocks is much more easier than in photoshop.
- Phil Smirnov
remembers that this idea has been described by David Siegel in 1997 in his book : Creating Killer Web Sites (http://tinyurl.com/5skw63)
- Oaksun
Paul, i think the edit-page command on ubiquity with the ability to: visually edit css and publish the changes is close to what you are describing.
- Ian
Eric pretty much nailed the description of the dream tool that I think Paul was asking for. In my dream the web app is truly collaborative and has an active GUI. So you can adjust those properties using a mouse or tablet and anyone else on your design team can watch as you do it so they can make suggestions and modifications as you work.
- David Muir
Let's say you want to make a mockup of FriendFeed called "FriendFood". You want it to generally have the same layout, only the top blue bar will actually have a background made of lasagna and a font that is made of French fries, and what shows on the page is everything people write about food on the regular FF, like "pasta OR bean OR potato OR steak". But you'd like someone to be able to do that from the web and without messing into much coding. Is that it?
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
I use OmniGraffle for this purpose.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Could you achieve it by using Firebug and tweaking the CSS?
- Shakeel Mahate
So something with the usability of say, omnigraffle, but that only used webkit for its rendering. With text controlled and positioned by actual css so that line spacing etc were correct, although again with a simpler UI than CSS has.
- Robin Barooah
Paul - I _just_ came across a site that did exactly that. Unfortunately, Safari's browser history is failing me and I can't find it anymore. Doh!
- Patrick Lightbody
Paul, not sure if you're still reading, but are you looking for interaction design changes as well, or just appearance?
- Mark Trapp
Did you try "PENCIL" an add-on for Firefox http://www.evolus.vn/Pencil/
- Francois Lamotte
I had never heard of Pencil, but it sure looks a lot like what I think Paul is describing.
- Jason Wehmhoener
I use ScrapBook Firefox extension to capture the page as is, and then edit that using Firebug.
- Jughead
Paul, I totally got you first time - anyone who thinks it's not a good idea has plainly misunderstood :-) It's the next step up from sketching out your UI on paper, n'est pas?
- Slappy Line
Thanks @Francois. Pencil looks quite promising...
- Ashwin Bharambe
Firefox Webchunks? Does only the snipping part though. Perhaps an add-on to webchunks that will let us use all those chunks together.
- Vamsee
it'd be kind of like pushing edit on a wiki, right. like, firefox would have an edit button then you could visually redo the page
- Coleman Foley
There's also Axure RP, something I found a while ago. http://www.google.com/search...
- Jauder Ho
Dosen't ASP.Net do that already???
- Roberto Bonini
One quick tip in Photoshop is to turn off anti-aliasing and use your various web fonts (Arial, Verdana, Helvetica, etc.) and use your preferred font size in pixels/points... This will provide you with screen accurate font appearances and sizes. The biggest problem with a "pixel-perfect" browser rendering is that it will never be consistent from browser to browser. They all render ever...
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- Nathan Chase
What would happen if we repeat the Stanford Prison Experiment with much younger people?
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Kids would be carried to a closed place where they would be forced to sit still all day. Another group of adults would be determined to be the guards. Kids would not be allowed to do what they feel like doing, even if it were a very useful thing (e.g. reading a book of their own choosing), but they'd be forced to do what the guards tell them. There would be a pressure punishment system, publicly assigning symbols representing a kid's well-doing, per the rules laid out by the guards. This would go on day after day, for many years. Just imagine, what would happen?
- Philipp Lenssen
I participated in that for 13 years. It was pretty awful.
- Paul Buchheit
What do you mean Paul?
- Itachi
I'm guessing he was talking about schools, like Philipp was.
- Ed Millard
For only 13 years though? (er, silly me, forgot that the fact you graduate at 18 doesn't mean you spent your entire life till then in it....although it may feel like it sometimes)
- Itachi
In the U.S. 12 grades plus kindergarten is common. I assume he considered it a jail break to make it to university
- Ed Millard
I don't :( It's significantly better, yes, but still sucks if you're a minor
- Itachi
I mostly didn't show up to class in college, so it wasn't much of a prison, and I actually liked it to some extent.
- Paul Buchheit
I thought the point of the Stanford prison experiment was what it turned the "guards" into. Not sure what that says about teachers.
- Nick Lothian
For some reason teachers and parents don't become as cruel as prison guards. I think it has to do with external inputs. The Stanford experiment was essentially a closed system, while the outside world is open and might not have the same feedback loops.
- Gabe
Case wasn't that bad... we had fiber!
- Eric Borisch
Looking for testers for a site in development, pls email philipp.lenssen@gmail.com :)
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(pls use subject Site Test... also, you need a webcam...)
- Philipp Lenssen
Lazyweb meets Mechanical Turk. :-)
- Daniel Dulitz
from iPhone
Suspect in data theft case found dead ... The 20-year old was found hanging in his cell Saturday morning at the Ploetzensee Juvenile Detention Center near Berlin - http://www.dw-world.de/dw...
"The man had been arrested last weekend on suspicion of stealing data from a popular website for German students, SchuelerVZ.de. Authorities said he had threatened to sell it to contacts in eastern Europe unless the Web site's operators gave him 80,000 euro"
- Philipp Lenssen
U.S. FarmVille players outnumber actual farmers 60 to 1. - http://www.nytimes.com/glogin...
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I want FarmVille to pay me subsidy credits for letting my fields like fallow.
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
My wife is obsessed with this. The sooner we get an allotment, the better.
- Tony Ruscoe
I had no idea Pincus was involved with this. *misses Tribe*. Tony, I know how she feels, I'm losing my garden and this might make some kind of security blanket substitute for me... (EDIT: after reading that article there's no way I'd start doing it. I have enough online addictions already. Just say no for me.)
- Spidra Webster
'Some academics have gone so far as to suggest that their collective popularity points to a widespread yearning for the pastoral life. “The whole concept of ‘I’m sick of this modern, urban lifestyle, I wish I could just grow plants and vegetables and watch them grow,’ there is something very therapeutic about that,” said Philip Tan, director of the Singapore-M.I.T. Gambit Game Lab, a...
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- Ruchira S. Datta
I'm totally obsessed with Farmville. Well, I live in the city but was born in a very rural area with lots of farms. Now if only the crops were real and I could plant real things. *lol*
- Molly, "sorry"
Isn't Mafia Wars about "I'm sick of having to obey laws"? ;-)
- Spidra Webster
Yeah, and they're all my relatives dumping crap on my facebook page all the time. God I hate those game updates (that goes for Mafia Wars, too).
- Joel Webber
I wonder if they will pass the laws prohibiting the development of farm land as well to prevent the housing creep
- Matt Ellsworth
I see where this is leading. All they need to do now is deploy the IP-addressable ag robots.
- Victor Ganata
Interesting thought, Victor... As for FarmVille, I just opened it up to have a look earlier this week, but, like Restaurant City, it's not really grabbing my attention... I think I have some crops rotting already =/ Haven't felt interested enough to go check...
- Kamilah Gill
This looks similar to the apparently super-popular-in-China Happy Farms.
- Philipp Lenssen
Doesn't Google have an interest to make the web better? Why don't they offer a simple Spam Check JSON API -- you submit a text as URL parameter, they return a number representing the likeliness this bit of text is spam?
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Good idea. Algorithm: search for the text and determine whether it is oft-repeated boilerplate or near links to the same page scattered across many blogs.
- Daniel Dulitz
from iPhone
I'd be concerned about spammers using this as a way to gauge how well they are bypassing Google's detection. A well-written machine learning algorithm that optimizes spam phrases based on the return value from Google's JSON API could theoretically improve to the point of not looking like spam.
- Bill Strathearn
Using the text alone is likely to bring a lot of false positives. Just think of all the "Great post, thank you" comment spammers -- some people may actually be posting that legitimately while others just want a link.
- John μller
What Bill said. You'd have to train up a different, non-production classifier. Then you face the question of whether you want to support that API/feature forever, esp. given that the bad guys might end up getting lots of mileage out of such an API.
- Matt Cutts
John, I would probably *manually* delete a comment that reads "Great post, thank you" (believing it's spam). But you could also simply show a captcha when the API says it might be spam -- which would then be harmless to those low-confidence returns (and I would think "Great post, thank you" would receive a low confidence rating due to being so short). I.e. those who really want to post such "spamlike" congratulations would merely need to complete the captcha.
- Philipp Lenssen
Bill and Matt, interesting and unfortunate problem, though is there any way to resolve that issue? And how do programs like Akismet solve that problem?
- Philipp Lenssen
Bill's and Matt's issues are surmountable, but at what cost? Philipp, turning the question around, why would you want this? It would be more accurate/useful to perform the spam check within a higher level service, which could have an API.
- Daniel Dulitz
Isn't essentially what the DCC does : http://www.rhyolite.com/dcc/
- Soren Riise
What would also be interesting would be a service that separates legitimate people names from product / service names. I think I would totally install that as a plugin on my blog, Mr. "discount plane tickets" & Ms. "best data recovery" can go post their comments elsewhere :-)
- John μller
John — I get that kind of comment spam from names like Tanwa, Philip, Jay, Vector, Youku, and Lance. :-(
- Amit Patel
The new taxis in this Chinese town have a Like and Dislike button in reach from the front passenger seat (green/ smiley = approve, and gray/ frown = disapprove... well, that's what I made of it).
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Pressed the green button today, but somehow can't imagine many contexts in which I'd press the gray button... seems so rude.
- Philipp Lenssen
What happens when you press the buttons?
- Daniel Dulitz
When you like, does the taxi get jumped to the front of the queue? :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
I'm imagining our AR retinas in 50 years: when a taxi you liked is driving by, you actually see it. And the gray button causes the taxi to disappear for you unless it's about to run you over.
- Daniel Dulitz
Is it just me, or is FF lagging behind? I've seen a blog post and a tweet to me not show up as fast as I'd normally expect.
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I have been noticing the same thing.
- Oracio
Me too.
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
Many have reported the same. I do a lot of service refreshing to close the gap.
- Louis Gray
Yeah, Paul said they're moving to faster servers soon, can't happen fast enough!
- Glenn Slaven
Friendfeed lagging, yes. Twitter fail whaling, yes. Not sure how bebo's doing today :)
- Micah Wittman
Yes FriendFeed does not seem to be instantly showing tweets as it used to show in the past.
- Atul Arora
Yeah, FF's been mighty slow the past few days...
- Dennis Jernberg
maybe they're getting cut off now that they're Facebook. Paul, Brett?
- Steve Gillmor
We are having some issues with our connection to Twitter that we hope to resolve within a week. We are working with Twitter to find a solution to the problem.
- Bret Taylor
OHMYGOD IT"S STARTING NEXT THING POPUPS!!1
- Philipp Lenssen
Steve, FriendFeed is _not_ getting cut off: http://friendfeed.com/paul...
- Bruce Lewis
Thanks Bret
- Roberto Bonini
This may have to do with the switch to the new servers...
- Dennis Jernberg
hmmm ... bookmarked an article on Delicious over an hour ago, haven't seen it show up on FF yet. But a test ping from identi.ca came in within seconds (5 AM PST) .... Edit: new test from Delicious showed up nearly instantaneously, along with previous one now 2 hours old. So looking okay now for me at least.
- Dan Freeman
i have a feeling these types of issues have less to do w/ friendfeed and more to do with the service it's coming from... but maybe not
- Chris Heath
Chris, you may be right. I see people complaining about Posterous import, but FF does OurDoings and Posterous exactly the same way (SUP) and OurDoings hasn't had issues. Posterous deals with a lot more traffic than OurDoings does, so it wouldn't be surprising if they had an issue.
- Bruce Lewis
Same here
- Hutch Carpenter
I manually update all my blog posts here.
- Thomas Hawk
I had a post (pic from iphone via email) take like 5 minutes to show up on friendfeed today, but that may have to do more with email than friendfeed
- Chris Heath
What's the "original source" of a news bit? E.g. when Friendfeed references a blog, which references a newspaper, which references human sources, which reference their eyes from input from the scene, which was staged (e.g. a press conference, or witnesses restricted to certain locations), referencing background events that orchestrated it.
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We often seem to associate the information shifting and transformation costs (time, energy, money...) with the originality of a source. If reporter X spends 2 months getting an interview with John Doe -- shifting the information from John's brain into a newspaper -- the new location will be considered the source. If Y spends 2 minutes shifting the newspaper's information into a blog, it may not be considered a source.
- Philipp Lenssen
Is this a rhetorical or a "proper" question?
- ianf ⌘
This seems almost too-much on-topic, and may be the answer you are seeking: "Where the News Comes From: Walking back a single day’s top stories." By Jeff VanDam (Published Oct 18, 2009) http://nymag.com/news... COMPLETE WITH A DIAGRAM in PDF: http://nymag.com/news...
- ianf ⌘
Can Twitter Replace RSS for Sharing the Best of the Web? - http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
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That's funny. I think Louis gets this exactly backwards. Twitter, and other centralized networks that have come before, have always been leaders in terms of establishing new communication models. It takes a while before distributed technologies catch up in terms of functionality. But catch up they do. What you're seeing emerging now with RSS/Atom + PubSubHubbub, and tools like Reader, is the distributed fabric that makes centralized services less necessary. So Louis is right about the general themes; he just has the momentum arrow pointing in the wrong direction.
- DeWitt Clinton
I'd also like to point out that my comment above, written in Google Reader in response to Louis' blog post, showed up on FriendFeed effectively instantaneously. Technologies used? Atom/RSS + PubSubhubub. Distributed. Owned by no one. Nothing stops us from distributing "likes" and aggregating them in "real-time" as well.
- DeWitt Clinton
Welcome back DeWitt :)
- Benjamin Golub
Oh, and if Reader and FriendFeed both supported Salmon and Pubsubhubbub for comments, the comment stream itself would have appeared in both places, again in near "real time."
- DeWitt Clinton
I'm not sure I've heard of Salmon. Link?
- Benjamin Golub
Here's a link to Louis' own post about Salmon: http://blog.louisgray.com/2009...
- DeWitt Clinton
I commented on DeWitt's share in Google Reader. :) So show me the backwardness. I am claiming RSS and Google Reader offers a more-full sharing experience and that right now, Twitter has a speed advantage. I also say that RSS is speeding up, thanks to PubSubHubbub, to eliminate the advantage. What part do you think I got exactly backwards?
- Louis Gray
DeWitt: last yard - http://www.ietf.org/id...
- Bill de hÓra
Ahem, may I talk about socnodes? :-) They're exactly what DeWitt talks about. Pure feeds based + PSHB implentation of distributed services http://socnode.org - Also as Brad said in that thread, why limit to 140 chars? We can share more than that (think full html posts, mediarss, enclosures...) and they'll be distributed in realtime with PSHB
- directeur
"Twitter A Poor Man's *RSS* System". You know my reference :)
- Jérôme Flipo
mmm.. Salmon - I hadn't seen that.
- Nick Lothian
Dear Spammer:
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- Philipp Lenssen
Sometimes it's fun to replace the link with a SERP or so and add a sarcastic editor's note. The remaining 99% of such author=I-spam-you comments will improve Akismet. Sigh.
- Sebastian
T-Mobile: Microsoft Lost All the Sidekick Backups « Data Center Knowledge - http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archive...
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The scale of this is staggering. This is why it's so important to allow users to export/backup their data.
- Matt Cutts
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This is terrible. Anyone even small fries like myself know better. I bet someone is banging their head on the wall...and that person might face being fired.
- Nile Flores
Oh. My. God. What had actually happened? No offline backup? Is Danger relying only on RAID redundancy? Or had a cascading database inconsistency error happened? All are possible, yet all are also preventable/circumventable. Yet another black eye for cloud computing. Don't they learn important lessons from the Ma.gnolia snafu?
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
from fftogo
Holy crap. My guess is that it's probably still plugging away on Danger infrastructure, since porting a large running system to new infrastructure takes a long time to get right. But holy crap all the same.
- Joel Webber
Bad day for the cloud.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
Funny, I just realized no one seems to be pointing out the now-apparent irony in the name "Danger".
- Joel Webber
Yeah, it's "Microsoft Danger", what do you expect?
- Itachi
The Year of Living Dangerously? :-)
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
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But didn't you hear? TechCruch says that that data doesn't matter and we should get over it.
- Hayes Haugen
"This is why it's so important to allow users to export/backup their data." Hmm, I think backing up is mostly for power users, and most normal users would be happy for the cloud service to back it up safely (and long term steer clear of those services which fail to do so... T-anything has a track record of bad software, as I can tell from email clients, branded phones, dsl setups etc. I've used with them).
- Philipp Lenssen
Wow. I can't believe they didn't bother to backup this data, what were they thinking!?
- Nathan Snyder
@XC: cost savings, I bet :-)
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
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@Pandu Yeah, that or laziness, either way, when a phone is so reliant on cloud backup, you gotta make sure you cover your butt
- Nathan Snyder
𝓓𝓸𝓮𝓼 𝓽𝓱𝓲𝓼 𝔀𝓸𝓻𝓴?
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Yep. (How do you do it?)
- milivella
coooll
- Onur Gündüz
𝓲𝓽 𝔀𝓸𝓻𝓴𝓼
- Dan Freeman
Not in Chrome (or IE7) but it works in Firefox on the same machine...
- Tony Ruscoe
Milivella, it's a special range of Unicode characters... I just stumbled upon them while adding a Unicode table to Netpadd B. One could probably insert the same characters into an HTML page to cause a really interesting Google search result title (unless Google filters that)... though as Tony mentions it will not work in some browsers.
- Philipp Lenssen
@ Philipp: Thanks for the explanation. :) (wasn't Unicode just about the abstract characters, not their visual representation?)
- milivella
The Napoleon Dynamite Problem Stymies Netflix Prize Competitors | Techdirt - http://www.techdirt.com/article...
milivella, Alex Kapranoff, Ho John Lee and 22 other people liked this
Apparently there is no single movie that is harder for Netflix to predict your reaction to than Napoleon Dynamite. From a ratings perspective, it's the most controversial movie they've ever come across. I completely understand this, and personally fall on the 'hated it' side. You?
- Kevin Fox
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Liked it, but didn't love it.
- Stephen Mack
The first time I saw it I loved it. Then I watched it with a friend and hated it. I've seen bits and pieces of it since then and am now ambivalent. Oh how I wish I were making a joke..
- Joe Pierce
Loved it! (http://friendfeed.com/itafrom...)
- Mark Trapp
Hated it!
- Chris Myles
Cracked my shit up.
- Mellissa Claus
I loved it.
- Admiral Anika
Loved it.
- Roberto Bonini
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more coverage from OTM http://www.onthemedia.org/transcr...
- Karl Rosaen
Hated it. It was also my very first Netflix movie.
- Neal Krummell
I think I'm going to watch it again tonight. Let you know ;)
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Loved it.
- EricaJoy
Loved It, but don't expect to watch it 10 times.
- Louis Gray
Hated it the first time I saw it. Then fell in love with it after repeated viewings. Now it's one of the most quoted movies around here next to Big Trouble in Little China and Big Lebowski.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Didn't "hate" it, but sure didn't get it.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Loved it until people started quoting it more than Big Trouble in Little China and The Big Lebowski.
- Rob Haas
Ooooh, BURRRRRRRRRRRRN.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'll take Big Trouble in Little China and Big Lebowski over Princess Bride and Monty Python and the Holy Grail any day of the week.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hated so much I couldn't finish watching it.
- Rachel Lea Fox
thought it was massively unimpressive, but not hate-worthy by any means.
- Bren -- feeling merry
It was OK. But isn't the problem here that we're rating on a linear scale? People like different movies at different times for different reasons. Context is important. Who are you watching the movie with? I have long believed that Netflix would get a lot more mileage out of their star ratings if they augmented them with some qualitative measures. Of course, that is easier said than done.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Ah yes, the Monty Python problem. Quoting movies to the point where previously good movies become annoying.
- Rob Haas
Loved every minute of it.
- Christopher Harley
I did not like actually watching it, but people quoting it later can be kinda funny. Also, I'm pretty convinced that LaFonda is supposed to be a dude in drag, but no one else ever sees that.
- Clare Dibble
I actually quite enjoyed it.
- April Buchheit
Loved it.
- Ben Hanten
Did not like. Hate is a little strong.
- Jason Silverstein
from iPhone
loved it.
- Mattb4rd
Overall I liked it.
- Philippe
Liked it way more than I thought I would. I had consciously avoided it, but then a friend convinced me to finally see it, and certain absurd bits of it crack me up every time I think about them. Not a great movie overall, but worth it for those bits.
- Kamilah Gill
Apparently I have the exact opposite sentiment as Akiva re: Princess Bride & Monty Python. As for Napolean Dynamite, it had its moments but is kind of depressing IMO.
- G. Sigh
lol, I liked it. It ALL has to do with what frame of mind you were in when you watched it.
- Will Higgins™
Yes Glen, some of us are aware of that.
- Jason Wehmhoener
Do you think we're freakin' idiots, Glen? GOSH!
- Rob Haas
Rob, you don't even know!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Gosh! Idiots!
- Chrimmus Tad
Loved it completely and watched it over and over -- a big part of the humor and sadness in these (and perhaps an explanation for the love-hate gap) may be the film's style itself emulating the non-heroic "trying & failing" theme of its protagonists (as opposed to heroic trying & failing, which causes drama), i.e. plot elements & jokes & more which purposefully fail to deliver to...
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- Philipp Lenssen
Funny enough I treat Napolean Dynamite kinda like Shakespeare. I didn't particularly like but was happy to have seen it because of all the cultural references. Strangely I've never seen the big Lebowski or Big trouble in Little China and don't really hear references to them day to day. IMO the three must see films are Monty Python and the holy Grail, Princes bride, and Army of Darkness.
- Dario Gomez
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