i totally believe that Malaysia statistic. strangely, tho, McDonalds is hard to find there. seems Pizza Hut and KFC own fast food for the whole country!
- Unholy Joe Silence
It makes me sad that the drinks are marked up so much because I LOVE post-mix Coke.
- Headless Gnad Kicker
"What would San Francisco be without its steep hills? Well for one, if would be much easier to walk around and without much effort. It would be easier to park a car and not have to curb the wheels. We would not have runaway vehicles and tennis balls."
- Tudor Bosman
from Bookmarklet
Mark: also, the San Francisco DPT enjoys writing tickets for not having your wheels curbed.
- Tudor Bosman
Really, Tudor? That's good to know if I visit San Francisco; I'd have likely kept my wheels uncurbed with reckless abandon. Do they have signs around that say that, or is it just one of those things you're supposed to know?
- Mark Trapp
Mark: Yes. I speak from experience. It wasn't much ($30 or so), but still.
- Tudor Bosman
A friend of mine got a ticket in SF for not curbing and this was not on a hilly street.
- Spidra Webster
Spidra: Yeah, I heard of that happening. So the choice becomes: pay the ticket ($30) or pay for an engineering survey to prove that the street's incline was less than 3% (likely more than $30).
- Tudor Bosman
I think that could very well be coming, but in a slightly different form. That is, Gmail proper is a client for email, but Buzz is a client for social activity. Instead of having another tab for FriendFeed, Buzz would simply and seamlessly sync everything, including comments and attribution, with FriendFeed (and Facebook) via WebFinger/Salmon/ActivityStreams/etc.
- Mark Trapp
No, I mean other apps, not necessarily just FriendFeed variants.
- Paul Buchheit
If the ux is appending elements, then salmon would seem to be the way to do it, though then it needs a permalink to hang off.
- Kevin Marks
That could be a nice baby step toward Wave (or Wave-like functionality) within Gmail. Update threads from XMPP, SMS, APIs,...
- Tinfoil 2.0
I think they should just add header tags and use SMTP standard to do it. If specific header tags are in place, then Gmail adapts.
- Jesse Stay
I agree though - I could use this in SocialToo's DM e-mails.
- Jesse Stay
No, Kevin I'm talking about the interface integration. I would like to have made FriendFeed do the things that Buzz is doing in Gmail, but of course that kind of integration isn't possible to outside developers.
- Paul Buchheit
It could then use salmon to sync comments from whatever service decides to adapt it
- Jesse Stay
Salmon has nothing to do with what I'm asking for.
- Paul Buchheit
Salmon drenched in butter and onions. Yum.
- τorƍue
I'd like to change friendfeed so that the comments aren't too grey to read on my Mac, so it supports microformats, and the faces are bigger, but I can't do that either (well, not without munging with your sample apps: http://friendlierfeed.appspot.com )
- Kevin Marks
I don't see how Salmon couldn't be used for this. Salmon ideally could be used to push comments into the e-mail, couldn't it? Or am I misunderstanding what Salmon does?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, what if I want to change the message content entirely, not just be stuck within the limits of a comment-oriented ui?
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, good point - that does limit to just a comment-oriented structure. Maybe they could use the Facebook API code at http://developers.facebook.com/opensou... to implement Canvas pages for e-mail. ;-) An FBML tag could tell it where to put the message body.
- Jesse Stay
I'd love that functionality in Facebook, too, btw. I'd just take the ability to delete a message via API in Facebook though at a minimum.
- Jesse Stay
The basic idea is that the inbox structure is useful, and as Buzz has demonstrated, it's useful for more than just email, so why not open up the inbox to third-party apps. BTW, we actually prototyped something like this for FriendFeed (open the feed to other apps), but never completed it enough to ship. I think it still has a lot of potential though.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, sounds like an opportunity for competition :-)
- Jesse Stay
You didn't have to bugger off to Facebook you could still be developing Friendfeed right now and competing with Buzz. Google clearly thinks you guys were on to something here and there is money left on the table.
- Mark
They must think there is lots of money to be made in a Friendfeed clone to put it dead center in the middle of their top service.
- Mark
Mark, buzz has a bit of a structural advantage over FriendFeed in that it can integrate with Gmail :)
- Paul Buchheit
Yeah hehe. The truth is though, right now, Buzz is not as good / polished as Friendfeed. But I imagine they have lots and lots of people (probably more than was on the Friendfeed team) working on things.
- Mark
I'll defer to Paul as the expert on this one :-)
- Jesse Stay
Let's call a spade a spade. You can't say this but I can. Google stole your idea! lol.
- Mark
Google steals all of Paul's ideas ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Didn't they pay for some of them Jesse? :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Kevin Marks said on Gillmor Gang today that he was testing Buzz before he left google and that was age ago so they were developing Buzz when Friendfeed was growing and peaking. Suprised they didn't just try and buy Friendfeed.
- Mark
And nobody is saying that FriendFeed could integrate in the same way on Facebook's messaging 2.0?
- Louis Gray
Whilst we were all coming to Friendfeed, they were salivating over the service.
- Mark
Everyone has their Facebooks set to Private though, or the most popular guys have the full 5000 limit so it wouldn't be as effective if they turned on Friendfeed for Facebook :(
- Mark
I read recently somewhere on one of the big blogs that the fact so many people have Private accounts is hurting Facebooks in search revenue potential.
- Mark
Obviously you can't do cool search things if 3/4 of the things people look for are coming from Private accounts and are blocked out of the search systemm
- Mark
Hmm, maybe Buzz is a glimpse of a future Facebook-like app platform in gmail? Google Friend Connect fits in there somewhere.
- Daniel Sims
Mark, everyone has their Gmails set to private as well
- Jesse Stay
Daniel, I think Google is recreating a social network from the ground up. I think they could have just done it starting with Orkut if they did it right. I'm usually wrong though.
- Jesse Stay
What happens if you edit via IMAP an email that is being read in gmail?
- Nick Lothian
from iPod
Sorta defeats the purpose of a "walled garden" if you open up the app to the competition #justsayin
- WarLord
Hey Paul, you guys should look into the Kynetx platform. With one platform you can create extensions across multiple browsers that re-organize the viewing experience. So, even without Google allowing you to alter it, you can allow users to alter it with just a simple install of a Facebook extension for their browser. You guys modify the experience, users get comments in their Gmail for FriendFeed/Facebook, and everyone's happy. No need to wait for Google for that.
- Jesse Stay
If you guys don't create it I will so let me know :-)
- Jesse Stay
David, I'd love to see you guys do a Kynetx app. It could be your first entry into the Information/Action card space. :-)
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I *love* some of the API stuff Yahoo is doing. Their APIs right now are really useful (and work with Facebook Connect)!
- Jesse Stay
This is definitely a good idea. In the near term you could get most of the same benefit by making a friendfeed igoogle gadget. I don't know how many people check their email through igoogle rather than gmail, but I'd be willing to be that it's significant.
- Ryan Moulton
They should probably build integration into their own properties first. Where's Buzz in Google maps? Where's the Buzz iGoogle gadget?
- Julian Bond
@David Recordon -- see http://blog.opensocial.org/2009.... Doesn't come close to covering every use case discussed here, but does, I think, do exactly what you're asking about.
- David Glazer
even the ff team don't care about their services, how do you want it from google? may be google knows the truth that ff team wont develope ff anymore. when will facebook shut down the ff service?
- Ibrahim Ozturkcan
from iPhone
Everyone is saying FF is dead. :) I sure hope not, but just in case :)
- Roberto Bonini
For Paul, I assume there is an incredible amount of self-satisfaction. Buzz has really brought the FriendFeed experience to a new audience, regardless of its name. Thanks for all your contributions, Paul.
- Louis Gray
I really like Buzz, very cool... glad to see Google release something that integrates a ton of their existing portfolio of products together! Buzz is truly a game changer... wow
- Susan Beebe
Maybe we should all agree to just go use Buzz, let them shut down FriendFeed, and Paul, Bret, et al can concentrate on Facebook... ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
It must be bittersweet. Well put, Louis. Well put.
- Akiva
I've had a FriendFeed gadget in my Gmail left column for ages ;)
- Tinfoil 2.0
+1 Louis. Gmail, FriendFeed, Facebook.. Amazing job and ideas, Paul!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I was watching the announcement with my brother and I kept saying "just like Friendfeed", "just like Friendfeed", "just like Friendfeed" ...
- Alejandro
STILL not showing up in mine!!! It does show up on my iPhone. I've been playing with it for the past hour, but really wish I could see in in a real web browser on a real computer!
- Jeff P. Henderson
Jeff same problem here. Very frustrating!
- BRҰANSAҰS
its like Pauls child FF reunion with its elder brother gmail :)
- sirishkumar
Paul, one thing that I am sure to miss on Buzz is, not being able to see all the awesome Googler's and Xoogler's feeds that I see here on Friendfeed. I wish there is someway Buzz remedies this. Really bummed about this. :(
- Space Cowboy
Paul, same feeling here, but now that I see buzz map in iPhone/web app, that's pretty cool stuff.
- Orlando Pozo
Paul, we need something like buzz map for friendfeed ;).
- Orlando Pozo
Paul, Gbuzz privacy settings really suck, even blocking and reporting people as spammers don't work :S
- Orlando Pozo
from iPhone
Paul, did you know Google was working on Buzz when you sold FriendFeed?
- Richard Cunningham
I love how friendfeed, with all of the love and effort that all of us have vested in it, gets to keep on reaching new places, even if it's not *exactly* FF. Nice one.
- Iain Baker
“Hi. Yeah. We had our site built in India. Right. It is not working now. We are wondering if you could fix it? And would you mind matching their hourly rate?”
Just made my first Google Voice overseas call via Wi-Fi on my DROID. Wow, I'm impressed. Voice quality was amazing, couldn't tell the difference between that and a regular phone call. Try it.
agree with jerome. got an invite even but cant access google voice. that sucks
- Freie Gedanken
from Yoono
2009-oct: "Google says it has signed contracts with a number of "international service providers for inputs to Google Voice." It goes on to say that "none of the contracted services have yet" been launched." http://www.businessweek.com/technol...
- Jérôme
Ummm I used the Google Voice app. You can download it from the Android Market, you'll need a Voice account with credit in it to make the call. On Android 2.* you can tell Google Voice to automatically handle international calls. Which means once you have a data connection all you have to do is hit "Send" and the rest is handled by the Voice app.
- LANjackal
Yeah the "data connection" I mentioned above was Wi-Fi
- LANjackal
Another Google Voice invite holder who cannot use it and is not willing to move to US. I'll be wait ing for Google to finish those deals by relying on other solutions.
- Nenad Nikolic
Uh... since when did GV start routing voice calls over WiFi? Afaik it still places a PSTN call over the voice channel. They haven't integrated Gizmo5 *that* fast.
- TranceMist
Ummm ... they've supported outbound calling from the day I joined. Once you download the GV app you can tell it to handle all outgoing international calls.
- LANjackal
the outgoing call is made to your local GV number, and then the connection is routed to the call recipient. would that still work if the SIM card were removed and only Wifi is available?
- Mike Chelen
Dear local ISP: thanks ever so much for the outage this evening. You've helped me see once again how devoid of entertainment value network TV really is. Maybe next time, we could do without the object lesson. Up yours, Me.
If we can't catch a Nigerian with explosives in feminine underpants, whose father alerted the U.S. embassy, whose ticket was bought in cash, who didn’t check bags, whose visa was denied by the UK, who studied in Yemen, whose name was on a watch list, who can we catch? - http://origin.reddit.com/r...
Maybe we're not trying to catch terrorists? Maybe we're trying to manufacture excuses to more tightly control US citizens, and terrorism is just the rationalization du jour?
- Mr. Gunn
I read this week that the two most important changes to airline security since 9/11 are re-enforced cockpit doors and that now passengers know to fight back. Who knows how many plans have been thwarted by the first, and between 1 and 3 have been thwarted by the second (depending how you count it: Flight 93, the shoe bomber, and the underwear bomber).
- Kevin Fox
I'm with you Cristo....heavy on the incompetence.
- Bonnie Foster
Please translate from Latin(?) for us dumb folk, thanks
- LANjackal
from IM
*remove the cause - sickness will go away itself* - old medical proverb (yes, in Latin)
- A. T.
if people can crash a White House party and it goes on and on
- VALZ/TT/TM
I'm not convinced this can adequately be explained by incompetence. I don't know that there was a conspiracy, but I can't dismiss the possibility given the depth of incompetence required. Assuming conspiracies never happen is as mindless as assuming everything is conspiracy.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
It *is* pretty interesting that people bitch about too much airport security until there's a thwarted bombing, then they say there's never been enough.
- Kevin Fox
Ummm I think you're confused, Kevin. The *general public* complains about there being too much security. The only people who complain about there being too little are politicians trying to win votes via FUD & scaremongering
- LANjackal
from IM
Anyone know the names of the companies who are making whole body scanners? I think I need to buy some stock.
- Victor Ganata
Kevin - There's a reason for the "no getting up last hour" rule, and it's not to prevent a terrorist from going to the bathroom. It's to prevent innocent people with headscarves from being tackled by well-meaning but jittery passengers.
- Mr. Gunn
Moot point, that rule was silly and has since been repealed
- LANjackal
from IM
In other words, the TSA strategy = FAIL.
- Victor Ganata
Seriously. An amazingly _expensive_ FAIL. All that time, people-power, money spent, so we can hear platitudes about why it did not work or that there are things that can be improved.
- Rick Cogley
Three hours delay at Paris CDG for this the following day on-route to Detroit. Most of this spent in the queue at the departure gate as they had only one male and one female officer to carry out an intensive search of 300 pax and their carry-ons. Explanations from Air France were very sparse, fortunately I'd caught all the details on Sky News at Manchester.
- Nick B.
@Chris..No, I do not think there is one big conspiracy, and that all is conspiracy. Let's please stick to FACTS and lets debate that. ok? (1). Detroit bomber was on a Britain 'no-entry' radical Islamist list. IF THIS will not hint CIA FBI DHS TSA to not only not to allow this guy in the US, BUT ALSO to search him down while boarding, then I DO NOT believe it was complete imbecile fail...
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- pb:
@Chris.. further, please understand, that nanothermite high military explosive was found on the site of 9/11 WTC controlled demolition inside operation pretext for wars, just as pools of molten steel. please understand that buildings were PULVERIZED with the speed close to free fall, 11 floors per second .... NoT possible other than masterpiece controlled demolition, per irrefutable scientific evidence .... i mean, have you seen the video footage? http://ae911truth.org
- pb:
HOW do you colonize countries in the age of airplanes as suicide weapons, of people willing to die in a suicide and terror act to resist occupations, in the age of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons? ....these wars are a big mistake .. http://krunchd.com/911 pretext for wars
- pb:
This adds new dimensions to "Liar, liar, pants on fire."
- Barbara Langham
Only one carry on? No electronics for the first hour of flight? I wish that, just once, some terrorist would try something that you can only foil by upgrading the passengers to first class and giving them free drinks. - http://silas216.tumblr.com/post...
Why the heck would anyone use freecreditreport dot com when they aren't the official free credit report site for the US? https://www.annualcreditreport.com/cra... is the only official site per the FTC's web site.
Does annualcreditreport.com have commercials that feature a guy singing silly songs in a many different styles? DIDN'T THINK SO! #F-R-E-E-thatspellsfreecreditreportdotcombaby
- Joe "Funkasaurus" Pierce
Alex, I'd call it oblivious, but never the less it doesn't make them any less ignorant. Of course, you also must realize most people had no clue how to manage their finances let alone find a credit report, until Free Credit came around. The state of personal affairs is better, but I doubt it's still up to par.
- Jimminy
Boxing Day? We're having fights again? AWESOME!
- Steven Perez
<eyeroll> Americans never understand us Britons and our traditions (I.e Boxing Day). I blame it on the tea party..... *snigger*
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Ooooh, we get to have tea afterwards? I would like Darjeeling, please. With cream and sugar, please.
- Steven Perez
Shabbat? Is that like Shazam? Does that mean that we're gonna have a day when a small boy becomes the Mightest Mortal in the world? And he'll have adventures with his cute sister and little brother and team up to defeat Black Adam? AWESOME! What a great holiday!
- Steven Perez