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Install Google Chrome on Linux using wine - My Science Is Better

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“a remarqué que les illuminations du Sacré Coeur ne s'étaignaient pas à minuit comme avant (avant quoi?)”

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Google does not want rights to things you do using Chrome

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“Does Google Have Rights to Everything You Send Through Chrome? http://bit.ly/4CuPMH strange TOS”

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This is a really odd thing to have in a browser terms and conditions especially the bit about licensing content displayed. That could be at odds with the licenses that already apply to that content and could also be a license the viewer isn't legally entitled to grant. - Paul Jacobson

First, let me say that Marshall stole my thunder!! LOL. I was totally writing this up when I found this on my new favorite feed, thanks to @drewolanoff and readburner for introducing me to Marshall. Second, I am leaning towards reaadwritewebmans arguement. The mere fact that Google announces in section 9 of the EULA that you retain the rights to your content, but in section 11 Google implies that they can use it how they see fit as long as it is transmitted through their services worries me. I have always been concerned about how much power we give to these companies, and how we mindlessly click through TOS and EULAs because we desperately want to use a shiny, new service. I'm not saying that Google or any other company is necessarily out to "GET US", but what I am saying is that it never hurts to read what you are signing. Google is an information company, and as such, they create applications and services that either ask for your permission or inform you that they will be collecting information if you wan - 4four1ones via FriendFeed MT Plugin

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This seems totally unnecessary/inappropriate. The services as Google refers to have their own Terms of Services which one has to agree to use them regardless of which browser they will use the services with. Why do it again in this browser. As others said, other browsers don't need this so hard to justify why Google needs it. My guess is that by services they refer to browser specific services like searching from the url bar etc. that is tied to google, if so, it should be a lot more restricted. Also, I find the "open source" part a bit confusing. What is open source and what is not? Is the whole browser code available as open source, or is it just components? What would it take to build an alternative binary without all this nonsense introduced with the ToS? - berkay via FriendFeed MT Plugin

Being Open Source and the code's license should be enough: there is no need for a TOS in Chrome, and such a TOS existing is from redundant to bad. - Marcos Marado

@Michael, The problem with section 11 is that it gives Google too much leeway in how they can potentially use the content your browse (GET) or create (POST) through the browser. They may never use this right, but there's nothing stopping them from using it in the future. The whole copyright arguments falls apart under clause 11 since it essentially says that you retain the copyright but that they can reproduce your copyrighted content anytime anywhere they want. This is like buying a book from an author and giving you the right to reproduce the content for your own purpose without any regard to the author because the author has given you total rights to the content. And I also agree with whoever posted above the comment about the need to change section 11 since we are arguing over it. This ambiguity needs to be clarified. --Jim - Jim McCusker via FriendFeed MT Plugin

A workaround for this would be to compile Chrome/Chromium for yourself without the auto-updater, wouldn't it? Might take a bit of effort, but wouldn't you be exempt from the EULA that way? - Cyvros/fyc via FriendFeed MT Plugin

@ReadWriteWebMan, @Mark... I'm somewhat confused by this discussion (though I'm glad we're having it). 1. No one is forcing anyone to download and run Chrome. Therefore, Google can use whatever license it so chooses; it's up to the consumer of the application to read over the EULA and decide if they're willing to exchange the rights Google demands for the use of the Service. If we think what Google is asking for is extreme, we can debate that, but it's purely an academic exercise. Perhaps Google will listen and clarify the language, perhaps not. 2. I'm curious about the distinction of calling a browser a "Service" as opposed to a "Product". If the browser itself is just another Google service, then it would seem that the same terms that apply to Google Docs would apply to Google Chrome. Is it the downloadable aspect that's confusing things? 3. While I can sympathize with @ReadWriteWebMan's take on things, the simple litmus test for me is syncing Google Bookmarks... Given that I create these on the clie - Chris Messina via FriendFeed MT Plugin

With that clause Chrome is dead to me. period. - Geoff Longman

Thanks for posting this so quickly and thoroughly, Marshall. It *definitely* caught my eye and kept me from downloading Chrome. Even Google doesn't read its own EULAs? not so shocking, I suppose. Now if only I could successfully download and test the browser. - Andy Sternberg via FriendFeed MT Plugin

You all need to read the TOS for Apps. Very similar language... - Sprague D

does everyone forget so quickly? This isn't new with Google - Bwana McCall

they've publicly said they are retroactively editing the EULA. - Michael J Cohen

updated the post to note that Google has removed the part of the TOS in question - Marshall Kirkpatrick

the clause is dead. fantastic. Chrome is a live for me again. whew. - Geoff Longman

no they don't have the right to do that - Victor via twhirl

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“@stinson Yep, Flickr was unblocked a week or two ago.”

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Mara Triangle published photos on Flickr

The wildebeest migration in front of the escarpment

The snare cuts through the tree as the animal struggles.

For a faster migration - keep to the road.

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netKunming.NET - A Kunming, Yunnan Blog

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I just discovered this blog about Kunming... - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Thank you tweetSMS for Bringing me my Social Life Back

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trying it for free to see if it's any good - Philippe Semanaz

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Cameroon | Travel information - HappyTellus.com

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my picture was used on this website about tourism information in Cameroon - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

LPO Franche-Comté: photos from Flickr

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10-degree Map Centered at 25°N,105°E

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I'm in Kunming and I felt that 5.7 earthquake - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Asia Region

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I felt that 5.7 earhtquake (red square) - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Solar Business from China, China Solar, Solar Industry - SolarFromChina.com: Kunming named China's 'Solar City'

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Kunming named China's 'Solar City' - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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"“go to work, send your kids to school follow fashion, act normal walk on the pavements, watch T.V. save for your old age, obey the law Repeat after me: I am free”" - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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I've been listenning to Beck's new album a lot, it's pretty good! - Philippe Semanaz

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Machine Tags, last.fm and Rock’n'Roll

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cool stuff... looks good! - Philippe Semanaz

Nice add - Chris Nixon

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Supernifty - Where do our Olympic medallists come from?

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interesting map - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Aluminum Corporation of China to Build Copper Plate Factory in Yunnan Province, an Industrial Info News Alert: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

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"...hosted the ceremony on August 19 in the Qidian Industrial Park in the city of Kunming" - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Contrairement à France Télévisions, la chaîne américaine NBC a fait une bonne affaire financière avec les JO de Pékin

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techcrunch.com a un article comme quoi NBC aurait pu faire beaucoup plus d'argent avec leur site internet... - Philippe Semanaz

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Missill - Interview - Fnac Indétendances 2008

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vue en concert à Nancy en 2005. du gros son! - Philippe Semanaz

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Survey reveals the situation of Chinese caterpillar fungus resources

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Chinese Academy of Sciences

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"The aweto is actually the combination of two species from two different biological kingdoms, consisting of the fruiting body of a fungus called Cordyceps sinensis and the corpse of a caterpillar named Hepialus spp.. This is just the peculiar outcome of a common phenomenon created by magical Nature, parasitism." - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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“#confession everytime I turn on my VPN I say "shields up" like I'm the Enterprise going into battle...”

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Dr. Sbaitso was my only friend.

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funny - Philippe Semanaz

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PPPoE without a router/modem? - Ubuntu Forums

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having a typical Linux problem to solve... hope I can slove it this time - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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"Modern Chinese Character Frequency List"

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现代汉语单字频率列表 - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Lesson Channels - ChinesePod

August 17 at 9:43 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

interesting chinese lesson. got to lesson to it more than once. makes me wanna subscribe (and i probabily will, in the near future) - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet

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Looking for part-time employee - Treehouse Cityguide

August 17 at 9:42 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link

wow, looking for a job like that now. too bad it's in Chengdu, not in Kunming - Philippe Semanaz via Bookmarklet