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The Lifestreaming President - http://www.steverubel.com/the-lif...
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Meryn Stol, Allen Eskelin, Philip Ryan Johnson and 2 other people liked this
FriendFeed new feature. IM/Email/Desktop Popup per subscription. I just saw it! Woah!
Nicholas James, Ninh Nguyen, Anne Bouey and 18 other people liked this
Hey, that's Akiva.
- Rochelle
That's been there a while, but I never paid attention to it until now.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Use it everyday, just noticed it today. Isn't that cool or what?
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Chris, are you sure that's been there a while? It's been there for lists but I only saw this for users a couple hours ago.
- Andrew Trinh
That is new for individual users
- Amber, Random Time Lord
I knew it! It's new. :)
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
thanks alfredo
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
Hey, it's me!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Hey it's a mango! *NOM*
- Josh Haley
FriendFeed Blog: Find and subscribe to your Twitter friends on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
krispijn Beek, timepilot, Vesna Gerintes and 234 other people liked this
"We've just added a friend importer for Twitter so you can easily find and subscribe to your Twitter friends who are already on FriendFeed."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Try it out here: https://friendfeed.com/setting...
- Bret Taylor
oh finally. also it's more usable than twitter's thanks.
- Eren Emre Kanal
was thinking about this earlier - want Flickr too - deperately!
- Phill Price
Hurrah!
- Andrew Trinh
Aweseomeness and YES, definitely build the same thing for Flickr.
- Thomas Hawk
Finally, great news!
- Justin Stevens
O neat.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Cool!
- Vicky
Very cool, I just found like 11 people I wasn't subscribed to here! Thx Guys. :D
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
704 of your Twitter friends use FriendFeed. You are already subscribed to all of them.
- Thomas Hawk
Thanks a bunch. Exactly what I needed
- Christopher Howie
Nice! Just used it, thanks to the FF team. There were a couple odd mis-matches that I caught, though: Thomas Rauscher (https://friendfeed.com/wuz) != @hotdogsladies
- Micah Wittman
I'm confusednow! I think I need it the otherway around :)
- Vicky
Sooo. Does this collect non ff twitter users?
- Phill Price
Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. I also almost posted about such a feature this morning. I guess in theory I could create imaginary friends for all the twitter users I follow that are NOT on FriendFeed... is there a way to automate that? And then perhaps convert them to non-imaginary friends once they join? :)
- Dylan Parker
Some are not who they say they are.. Got a few in my list 'Mark Hobbs @patricknorton, Ron Perrella @leolaporte (private feed)' Other than those, great stuff, thought id done something like this to start with when i first signed up, guess not.
- Simon Wicks
Good stuff - thanks ...
- Patrick Jordan
Simon: we do our best to make sure someone is who they say they are before recommending them but a few could slip through the cracks. Your feedback definitely helps find the outliers.
- Benjamin Golub
oh we can also search other twitter users' friends, nice.
- Eren Emre Kanal
@Simon - noticed that too.. Some people are using FF for their personal RSS aggregator and pulling in content from other people. Most likely why they have their feed marked private.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Been waiting for this! Thanks FriendFeed!!!!!!
- Patrick Lightbody
Benjamin: Good stuff :)
- Simon Wicks
The only slight issue, which is not a big deal, is when people add other people's Twitter feeds to their FriendFeed account. In the search I got results for people who have added other people's Twitter feed to their FF account instead of the actual owners of the Twitter accounts I am following. I do this with imaginary friends. They must not know what imaginary friends are for.
- Rolf Schewe
This is cool! But noticing some bugs too. I.e. twitter/techcrunch goes to john rocker etc.
- Jauder Ho
Jauder: In that case it is likely because http://friendfeed.com/techcru... doesn't have @techcrunch added as a service. Once it is added we should recommend the correct FriendFeed account.
- Benjamin Golub
Sweet. That was easy. Nice job.
- Andrew Smith
awesome
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
No worries, I scanned the list manually and it added fine. I would suggest giving the ability to add to more than one list though. I created a new list called Twitter but would the people I just added be added to the home feed too?
- Jauder Ho
Hmm. It found 3 twitter friends for me, and none of the corresponding FF users are correct. Weird. [looks again] Oh, I get it...none of them are actually on FF, it's just that other people have imported their twitter accounts. Ugh.
- Ken Sheppardson
any chance we can get imaginary friends created automatically for twitter friends that are not using friendfeed?
- berkay
so so good...
- Zee.
BTW, there's a third party app for this. https://twitter2ff.appspot.com It can sync both ways.
- Ken Sheppardson
nice thanks ken - was wanting something that went FF to Twitter as well
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Oops. Smooth. Overwhelming. Added 62 & sent 8 requests. Simply good. Waiting for the big news wave now :)
- Markus Merz
this would really rock if you could do it for Flickr as well. It would also be interesting if FF was smart enough to delete imaginary friends with the real ones as they show up at FF.
- Thomas Hawk
Find your twitter friends on friendfeed
- Sean
Given I can put in any user ID, I can pull in any followers on Twitter, period. Shouldn't this tie in to the account you have registered?
- Louis Gray
It prepopulates with the account you have registered, but we let you type in any account because the info is available on Twitter, and you may have a Twitter account that you have chosen not to connect to FriendFeed.
- Bret Taylor
Thanks, Bret.
- Louis Gray
OK, don't everybody try to import @scobleizer's friends at once.
- Ken Sheppardson
Bret, make sure you add the link to this importer to http://friendfeed.com/about...
- Atul Arora
Nice. Thanks, Bret.
- Steven Perez
Sorry, I have a question Houston http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Erhan Erdogan
Erhan: we have some logic in place to figure out who "owns" a Twitter account so we always attempt to recommend the correct user.
- Benjamin Golub
Benjamin: Really wonder about this logic? Can you explain it?
- Erhan Erdogan
nice brett, next find and subscribe to facebook friends already on FF
- Bob Sonin
Bob, the Facebook app already finds which of your fb friends are on FriendFeed: http://apps.facebook.com/friendf...
- Paul Buchheit
Nice! Import Twitter friends to FF. That is great.
- Drew Lucas
from BuddyFeed
It was about time... Thanks!
- Alexandros Georgiadis
oops, forgot about that
- Bob Sonin
wasnt there some tool for that... or maybe that was the other way around - intreresting for sure. However, actually think I know my friendfeed people better than them on Twitter, so I´ll see
- Peter Efland
Darnell: The Facebook app finds your Facebook friends are on FriendFeed: http://apps.facebook.com/friendf.... We plan to support other services.
- Benjamin Golub
This is awesome. Thank you so very much.
- Sloan Bowman
this was realy helpful. thanks!
- graham mudd
This didn't work for me. Oh well.
- Robert Scoble
That's what you get for having thousands of followers.
- Richard A.
That worked *really* well. Hmm, maybe I'll just unsub those folks on Twitter as long as they are bringing their feed in here. Sorry, Twitter.
- Laura Norvig
Laura - you will gettheir Twitter statuses, but you won't get the replies to them from people whom you don't follow, if you follow what I mean. Gahh.
- Candy Schwartz
Oh, I don't typically dig that deep. Wouldn't that require TweetDeck or using Twitter search? You're right, though, if I happen to be on Twitter and someone asks an interesting question, sometimes it's nice to see the replies of the people I *do* follow.
- Laura Norvig
Thanks for the great feedback everyone! We just pushed some fixes that should make our recommendations even more accurate based on your feedback.
- Benjamin Golub
OpenID Needs to Start Getting Real - http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs...
Nicholas James, Philip Ryan Johnson, Andre P. Siregar and 14 other people liked this
I hate to see all these sites jumping on Facebook connect. Gives facebook too much power to my taste.
- Tom Ribbens
@Tom Totally agree, but unfortunately it has a lot of clout thanks to its userbase.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
what I don't get is why Microsoft Passport/LiveID was evil and nobody wanted to use it, while Facebook connect is all of a sudden interesting for everybody....
- Daniele Muscetta
Microsoft was ahead of its time with Passport/Live ID, and also, everyone hates a winner. If you ask me, Live ID is better than Facebook Connect, though, because Microsoft's value isn't in accumulating all your life's data the way that Facebook's is.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
exactly. I agree 100% with what you just wrote :-) but LiveID auth license does not make it easy to use it the way facebook does, tho.
- Daniele Muscetta
Apparently Live ID does OpenID now, though, which if more users and developers knew about, might make integrating Live ID a little less annoying, legally.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
@Chris Charabaruk, yes it does and that should mean 700million or so people who already have an OpenID. Not a bad number :)
- Chris Johnson
Thing is, while so many people have an OpenID (or several OpenIDs) how many of them know about it? How many know how to use it, and are comfortable with it? I'd guess perhaps 1-3%, off the top of my head, know enough about OpenID to make use of it. Now, how many Facebook users would know what do do if they saw the FB icon and a link saying "log in with Facebook" when they visit a site? You say anything less than 75% I'll laugh my ass off.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
exactly. Facebook is easy to understand for consumers. And so Passport/LiveID has been for a while. On the opposite, OpenID is cumbersome to use and too "geeky" that I don't even get it completely - I can imagine what the average user would do with it...
- Daniele Muscetta
Chris, how many people with accounts on Google, or Yahoo, or Facebook, or Microsoft Live would fail to recognize the "login using" OpenID button Clickpass provides? Example at https://ourdoings.com/person...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Seeing what clicking on the bar does, I have the feeling that people will be more likely to use one of the other login options Clickpass provides, rather than OpenID. While OpenID tops the dropdown list from the circle button, the page you can get from clicking puts prominence on everything BUT OpenID. As it is, it allows, but does not encourage, the use or comprehension of OpenID.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
GUYS! GUYS! GUYS! There's a Flip Ultra for $59.99 on @woot RIGHT NOW! ALL CAPS! ALL CAPS! ALL CAPS I'M BILLY MAYS ON TWITTER NOW YAY!
Ken Sheppardson, Devon Campbell, David Thomas and 13 other people liked this
Damn you! I just bought 2, w00t!
- Josh Haley
Nice. I'll be able to compare it to the Zi6 I ordered literally five minutes ago. Heh.
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks, Will. Perfect for my daughter to play with. Yeah.... my daughter. =)
- Matt Hamilton
BahHumbug...shipping only to the US....ignores little backwaters like Australia....,<grumble> fricken fracken <grumble> all excited <grumble> for no fricken fraken reason <grumble>. ;-)
- Threepwood
Message to Twitter users from Scoble - http://friendfeed.com/e...
Web20Critic, April Buchheit, Jens Christian Freund and 55 other people liked this
Link goes to Scoble's snarky post today in which he's utilizing an interesting tactic to try and recruit new users to FF
- Mark Krynsky
From an earlier comment of mine: "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE NOISE!! You don't want the noise because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that Hide, you need me on that Hide..."
- Johnny Worthington
Good one
- Josh Haley
hah
- Nicholas Kreidberg
@John great comment...hehe. I say bring the noise!
- Mark Krynsky
I loved Scoble's post today about FF vs twitter ... very funny (BTW, I was totally thinking of Dave Winer when I was reading his post...jab, jab!) I love both guys and think this sparring is funny
- Susan Beebe
Cum on feel the noize? For some, Twitter is too complex, and for some, FriendFeed doesn't provide enough information.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Ha, it's reverse psychology to get more people over here to try it. If you tell people not to touch something, what do they go and do?
- jjprojects
Ah, the ever witty Scoble strikes again. +50!
- Victoria Plautia
Interesting... just read ppl's comments on Scobleizer's post - do that many folks out there not *get* the whole point of his article? Scary thought.
- Victoria Plautia
Honestly, that's why I stopped using FriendFeed until recently. It filled with political and self-referential content. And now it's the invasion of the lolcat/dog pictures. There are far more important things going on, and thankfully they occasionally get through.
- Brent Newhall
But then, maybe I'm just cranky today. ;-)
- Brent Newhall
Ha ha, this is cool - this whole battle almost makes Friendfeed seem complicated
- Peter Efland
Minimalistic Twitter & luxurious FF: good couple
- Igor Poltavskiy
Fraternity In Danger Of Losing House Launches Harebrained Scheme To Fix Economy | The Onion - America's Finest News Source - http://www.theonion.com/content...
Philip Ryan Johnson, Atul Arora, Jim Norris and Paul Buchheit liked this
God, one more week of this political shit and we can go back to talking in circles about Friendfeed and Twitter and RSS.
Rudolf Olah, Nicole Simon, Michael Markman and 35 other people liked this
Or have people still been talking about web 2.0 and I just missed it? /smirk
- Eric Rice
hahahaa!! soo true!! there's some 2.0 stuff, mostly depressing politics and economic fail stuff! augh!
- Susan Beebe
Nikon vs Canon. Mac vs PC. Android vs iPhone. Aaahhhh, can't wait!
- Robert Scoble
What's RSS? *ducks*
- Steven Perez
Haha. I have to agree.
- Nathan
What *is* the Republican stance on social media?
- Mistletoe Glen
not a chance. this'll be bush's last few months to finish making a mess out of stuff. it'll be plenty newsworthy.
- Patricia
Glen: at the Personal Democracy forum a McCain staffer said he doesn't use a computer.
- Robert Scoble
lmao scoble - c'mon now that is a completely unfair answer to glen's question and you know it! ; p
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco: unfair but true.
- Robert Scoble
lol while it may be true that mccain doesnt use a computer that in no way represents the "republican stance" on social media
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
"What *is* the Republican stance on social media?" - 'Wide.' - Larry Craig
- John Craft
I have no comment that wouldn't contain the words 'war', 'bibles' and 'fucktons of money', so I'll pass.
- Eric Rice
You think twitter will max out in the next week and then die a a death afterwards when no-one has anything to argue about? Can't wait tii next Thursday!
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
from twhirl
no kidding. Media coverage is going to be ridiculous.
- Don Martelli
Not to worry. After the election there will be even more fodder for argument as Obama starts exercising the authority of a president-elect. Everything he does will excite controversy somewhere.
- Jimmy Walker
SUPER-LIKE!
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
@john craft like anything some get it more than others -biggest factor is that social media isnt the field of fricking dreams that so many think it is i.e. just building it doesnt guarantee people will use it - there was a natural excitement with obama that made these tools a natural fit and disastrously low morale (deservedly) on the R side that made for a far less mobilized activist pool - @abby oh trust me the internal battle for control of the party you will see will give people plenty to talk about
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
The big winner take all one day sale is upon us.
- Dave Martin
Man, the election is just going to be the *beginning* I expect continuous chatter straight through the next midterm.
- Victor Ganata
.LOLz
- .LAG liked that
After the election the news media will start talking about how bad Christmas sales will be so that they can sell more advertising.
- Robert Hafer
lawl.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
FriendFeed Blog: Share your FriendFeed activity on Twitter - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2008...
roel, Jens Christian Freund, Bernie Goldbach and 99 other people liked this
"We want to make it easier for you to share your FriendFeed activity on the web services you're already using. Now you can publish your FriendFeed updates directly to Twitter."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
This is a fairly big deal.
- Dave Winer
sweet
- Andre
This is totally rad. Thanks!
- Patrick Lightbody
Only thing is that I wish you could make it easier to get my Twitter and FriendFeed list of friends synchronized in two ways: 1) doing a fresh search and/or notifying me when my Twitter friends join FF, and 2) by automating creation on fake friends in Twitter so that I can use FF.com exclusively for all my Twitter tracking.
- Patrick Lightbody
fantastical!
- Thomas Hawk
I love this feature. You rock, Paul.
- Bret Taylor
Works well, impressive.
- Daniel Rowley
Thanks!
- Kamath (नमः)
so does that mean that friendfeed entries will be fed to twitter and right back to friendfeed again if one's account is part of friendfeed?
- Cee Bee
How do you handle the echo effect of GReader => FF => Twitter => FF?
- Pras Sarkar
this is great. But I also second Cee Bee's question.
- Tsega Dinka
Thank goodness it's all services except Twitter. Otherwise, there might be an infinite feedback loop.
- Morton Fox
anyone know how the folks at Twitter feel about this?
- Thomas Hawk
We took into account the echo effects/loops. Let us know if you see any issues (we are aware of and fixing one bug at the moment).
- Dan Hsiao
Seems cool, but I wonder if it will interfere with my other networks by reposting my Tweets again, and again :/ Testing now!
- Michael Forian
Paul this is huge for your team! Congrats!
- Jorge Escobar
Greader shared items are not being reposted to Twitter for me.
- Pras Sarkar
@Pras, I don't see any Greader items on your FF feed since we launched the feature 30 minutes ago... Have you had any come in since then?
- Dan Hsiao
I was JUST sitting here going, man...it would be nice if people on Twitter could see the cool stuff I'm sharing to FriendFeed...ask ye shall receive...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I gots some people on Twitter I don't want to see how much fun I'm having on FF. Appreciate the option, though.
- Derrick
@Dan, odd, I don't see my shared items on Greader making it to FF. I'll investigate. Thanks.
- Pras Sarkar
just changed my settings to only include the material I post *to* FriendFeed vs. all the comments I make *on* FF. Comments come across in Twitter out of context and for an active FF person would tend to push too much craziness into their Twitter stream.
- Thomas Hawk
Hrm...I hope people don't put stuff like Digg/Stumble/Identi.ca/Greader. Anything that gets bundled up in FriendFeed probably has NO business being piped into Twitter...
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
interesting...what about enabling this for identica as well? i only post to identica, which then feeds into twitter...since the apis are essentially the same, it should be easy to hook up...
- Trent Olson
I don't have a fucking clue how I feel about this.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
@Pras, since we crawl for updates, they usually come every 30 min or so. You can always manually refresh to check for updates from your profile page (select the service icon, then click the Refresh link that shows up)
- Dan Hsiao
you can pick and choose which services get routed over to twitter. pretty cool
- Cee Bee
This is so great. Posting to Twitter was feeling like a bit of a digital chore, frankly. Just wanted to keep my presence happening there, not much more. This makes it so I can be here 100% of the time. Well done.
- Steve Isaacs
Wooo hooo!! You guys rock again!! yeah!
- Susan Beebe
Awesome feature ... thanks guys!
- Jay
This is awesome! Now I can spam all my tweeps with my Friendfeed activity! More bending, splicing, and tuning of the firehose. Most excellent. UPDATE: Holy crap. This is a POWERFULLY dangerous new feature. Look out Twitter. UPDATE2: Wow. Just. Wow. That's a scary powerful feature. I did find a minor issue when you comment on a twitter post and check send @reply to twitter - results in duplicate post. user best practice to not check @reply I guess.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
big deal, indeed - trying to figure out what the micro-blog equivalent to power grid "kilowatts" - alas, transforms made possible power grids - yet innovative data tranformations are subject to weak argents concerning "useful[ness], concrete[ness] and tangib[ility]" ... bet they do a telecom split at some point >>> a step in the direction of "willingness to pay" for bandwidth ... Don't understand? You probably aren't paying my bills ;-)
- Scott Moskowitz
They will need some native iphone and android g1 apps now. FF not best first comment first engine.
- Patrick Moorhead
Brilliant Stuff!!!!!!!
- Toby Weston
from twhirl
Great stuff.
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Go ahead & acquire Ping.fm and then this news goes nuclear:)
- Roney Smith
Very impressive, I will try this out now to see how it displays...
- Joe Dawson
Thomas Hawk - same here. I had to go back and tweak my publish feed settings to NOT include all the comments I make *on* FF; just send a tweet to twitter for only the stuff I *post* on FF
- Susan Beebe
Potential loop: FF > Twitter > Facebook > FF?
- Raphael, Raphael
That is some wicked integration. WTG, gang.
- Pete Delucchi
I would use this feature but I usually just post via Ping
- Outsanity
Mutual penetration: FriendFeed & Twitter.:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
How do I get this to work with identi.ca or other OpenMicroBlogging providers?
- Michael R. Bernstein
Wow, how did I miss this. Post FriendFeed updates on Twitter. Cool. Testing now...
- Mike Reynolds
This works, the circle is complete. Sweet!
- Mike Reynolds
What about a "Reshare/Retweet this entry" option?
- Jens Christian Freund
I hope this helps me use Friendfeed more!
- tomit
Here's a good intro to Twitter from a relatively new Twitter user who 'gets it' (@divinewrite) - http://www.divinewrite.com/blog...
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McCain by no means has an elitist attitude toward others. It really means nothing to this campaign that he owns multiple houses and cars. I'm pretty sure McCain wasn't shown any favoritism from any mortgage companies unlike Obama who was given a lower than normal mortgage rate and other special treatments in exchange for taking care of the special interest groups.
- David Ward
oh i love regurgitation of lies. WHOO-HOO...of course, marrying an heiress, mccain got no special treatment whatsoever...right.
- Admiral Anika
What makes McCain an elitist because he married an heiress? How does this affect the campaign? It doesn't. McCain is an employee of the people and works for the people. Obama has no bipartisan experience and will achieve absolutely nothing meaningful if he's elected. It's a fact that McCain has the best bipartisan record in the Senate. He can make a difference.
- David Ward
and it's no different than what most of my friends got on their overpriced houses here in LA between 2001 - 2004. yawn.
- Admiral Anika
all I'm saying is it's time to stop calling McCain an elitist because he married into a wealthy family that owns a lot of real estate and other luxuries. Obama is not poor by any means, He made over $3 million dollars over the last few years. Let's talk about the real issues instead.
- David Ward
let's save it for the debate on Friday
- David Ward
dear god. enough in the comments. It's the McCain campaign that is playing the elitist line, and all this proves is that it's a rich line coming from a guy with that many cars and houses...and a jet. I'm sure that many are over the whole "elitist" argument...but lets not forget that it keeps coming up in the right, not the left. There's nothing wrong with McCains wealth...but it's the context here that matters
- Duncan Riley
Duncan, I get what you're saying but every post mentioning elitism shows examples such as this in the context that if you're wealthy, you can represent middle America. That's just not the case and that's my point. Looking forward to the debate on Friday and the heated discussions to follow on FF.
- David Ward
Does anyone here know the definition of elitism? Here's a hint, people - it doesn't have anything to do with what's in your bank account. Go hit up a dictionary and try this debate over again.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
David, I'd be the last person to suggest that it does exclude you. But when you play the elitist card against Obama, you need to make sure your own house is in order. I'd rather (as would many) that this whole idea of "elitism" goes away, because its BS in the bigger context of things. But context here again: McCain is throwing the labels, and the stats don't back it
- Duncan Riley
I'm not saying either one is elitist, but it isn't about how much money you have. The whole argument starts out with a premise (the infographic) that makes no sense. It's about an attitude or a belief. Start from there, and we may have a ballgame. Otherwise, it's just pissing in the wind.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
Mark, for a rare time, I totally agree, at least on the money side. We should have more ppl with money in politics, not because they can game the system, but because they understand how money works, and understand how to make it, personally, and for the nation. However, it's McCain here who plays the elitist tag, and Obama doesn't match the criteria. We should move past this...as I'm sure you would agree.
- Duncan Riley
Absolutely. And the truth is that they're both probably fairly elitist. After all, they're both senators. :-)
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
That's fine with me. And the crack about both of them being elitist is a joke that's probably 200 years old. To me, labels matter less than policy. I know that might not be true for most of the public, but for me it is.
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
one guy earned his money through hard work; the other married into it. one guy owns a "normal" amount of domiciles and vehicles; the other guy has so many houses and cars he lost count. to suggest this doesn't have any bearing on their worldviews is ludicrous.
- Jon Price
Jon, I'm sorry, how many real jobs has Obama had? I'm not discounting what you say, but I would hardly begin to think he's this blue collar hero.
- Mike Lewis
@Duncan you're absolutely right! We should elect John McCain so he can marry us to a richer country and make money like he did! Maybe we can marry Saudi Arabia. Bush has been courting them and holding hands with them long enough.
- Jason Carreira
@Mike how many real jobs has McCain had?
- Jason Carreira
The question was how many jobs Obama had. I think we're all very much aware of McCain's record. I still have no idea about Mr. Hard Worker!
- Mike Lewis
from twhirl
I'm thinking that Mccain paid full price for all his houses, no Rezko to give him a $300,000 discount for his homes. Have we sunk to the level that having more than one house is bad, but gaining from Chicagoland corruption is good?
- Daltonsbriefs
He did not gain, and Rezko gave him no money. Nice bit of McCain style libel, though.
- Jason Carreira
Repeat after me: the Google Phone is not an iPhone killer - http://www.inquisitr.com/3695...
Business Blogger【ツ】™, fbrunel, Daniel Rowley and 28 other people liked this
It's not this particular phone which people believe is the "iPhone killer" - it's Android. ITunes users already have an iPod/iPhone. I don't use iTunes, and I guarantee that there will be an excellent music management utility on Android... and I'll be able to add additional memory to my phone. In addition, I will be able to install numerous free applications, and even create my own if I...
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- Tim Hoeck
I don't. I had a Sk2. Probably one of the best phones I every used as far as the UI and stuff. I loved that phone, but it had to go cuz I needed to be able to install random crap on it for free...and the sk2 just wouldn't cooperate with that agenda.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I wished they waited to launch it. IMHO, any Android phone at this time doesn't even begin to compare to the iPhone. Both hardware and software wise. Such a shame. G'morning, Duncan. :)
- Mona Nomura
I'll take your bet @tim that android will not have music mgt software worth its code ... even if you don't want iPhone - what happened to any music mgr software since oh 2001 has not changed iTunes does control the market in a way quite similar to Google's advantage in search except Google has failed miserably on payments ... Android won't fix that
- Scott Moskowitz
I don't have an iPhone. I suppose I should and then again I like to eat and have a place to live. So it will just have to wait. It will be interesting to see how the Android is received.
- Paul W. Swansen
was it musicmatch?
- Scott Moskowitz
Scott. you are probably right.. iTunes is the best.. if you like DRM :) I'm curious as to what makes iTunes so great? I can use a number of apps to maintain my collection, download podcasts.. all the while streaming it to work or my phone or wherever else I have an internet connection. But if iTunes is the only music management software out there, how the heck have I been able to maintain my 20GB of mp3s so well? I prefer Amarok, but right now I am running Windows, so I am using a combination of software.
- Tim Hoeck
That being said, iTunes is great because it's the best established, legitimate place to purchase music.
- Tim Hoeck
I think the next version of the iPhone is the next iPhone killer
- Douglas Karr
from twhirl
@tim if you looked closely at my inventions you might find I actually have a very different perspective on security & rights management in general ... that said my views on DRM are that it is a failed file format ... Google should be straight & dismiss "net neutrality" as a term & policy - and make it possible to share in the upside of search / bandwidth - come on - be a little kinder ... digital watermarks exist today because of a love of music ... steganographic cipher, my friend
- Scott Moskowitz
Scott.. it's not that I have a problem with some kind of digital management, but as you said, I think DRM was done wrong. Regardless, this is really about open/closed system. Apple likes a closed system. For those that are willing to endure this for Apple hardware/software, so be it. I like OS X, and I like the iPhone.. but I won't buy either - because of hardware constraints, or because of hardware prices. I want an open system, and I don't want to pay out the $#@ for it.
- Tim Hoeck
@tim read my comment - I am no Apple fanboi - I am an inventor > please define "open/closed" system or even industry standard? "willingness to pay" that is all that we measure - ROI by the most objective measure cash-money
- Scott Moskowitz
never said you were :)
- Tim Hoeck
It's the standard Google encircle and overcome strategy ala OpenSocial. Variety, volume, and choice in Android platform phones should choke out many of its competitors, if done right. Google is making a big platform play here and it's getting increasingly better at executing on them by many indicators.
- Dion Hinchcliffe
So no DRM? I guess there won't be audiobooks on the Android. I've been reluctant to switch to iTunes. The Genius button made me consolidate. It's still a slow POS. Plus who said you have to use DRM? Just about all my music is in mp3 format.
- Rodfather
Tim, besides others talking about the phone not the OS, lets consider the OS. It's not an iPhone killer either. If "open" were supreme, we'd all be running Linux desktops :-) What this does though is challenge established players, create new buyers, stimulate growth and innovation. RIM is the obvious target upfront...and I'm betting that target two will be Nokia, as most other manufacturers of note are talking about Android handsets. It will create a platform that may well sell lots of phones...
- Duncan Riley
Dion: The key here is "if done right". Do you really think the hardwares are iPhone competitors? Can the specs keep up with Android? And more importantly, would people want to buy it? Why didn't they wait for Chrome to mature to make it the default browser for Android handsets? As much as I'm rooting for Android, imho, the first release is going to be a FAIL. Epic one, at that.
- Mona Nomura
@mona respectfully ... hardware is no longer relevant - patent pools for any number of configurations are prime "real estate"/IP ... its the configurations that matter in SoC that is fairly pervasive now ... The best case would be format & OS & hardware independence - content is analog
- Scott Moskowitz
Scott: I see your point, but I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm looking at the current mobile market -especially in the US that are non-iPhone. None of the handsets can keep up; both hardware and software wise. I include hardware as well, because we haven't reached the point where the OS and respective softwares are independent for good user experiences. And to add to that, I was really rooting for the first Android handset to come out strong. Unfortunately, I don't think Dream is
- Mona Nomura
will be 'that' handset. I hope I'm wrong.
- Mona Nomura
@mona ... no, look at the failure of both musicmatch & iPhone in Japan ... admittedly years separated but I'll take my docomo phone over any product in the US & have plenty of storage via mini/microSD ... Americans spend too much time ignoring the man in the middle - providers - as the problem to innovation in the mobile device space ... Google is committed because they have a financial stake in spectrum - which too should be commons akin to Japanese Govt in ensuring real innovation in "services"
- Scott Moskowitz
@mona the hardware is irrelevant comment stands & is treated by NTT by only allowing a letter or 2 to represent a handset manufacturer - N = NEC ; SO = Sony ; F = Fujitsu - too much brand not enough meat
- Scott Moskowitz
But Scott, the Japanese.. well Asian markets are so different from the rest of the world. IMHO, if you live in Japan, and have an iPhone, it's only for show since clearly Japanese providers, services, and software is YEARS ahead. That said, I've used both Japanese and American mobiles. American mobile sites are hands down eons better than Japanese mobile sites. Though until iPhones, mobile browsing was something I NEVER did. Currently, there are no other handsets (in the US) that can give
- Mona Nomura
me the same browsing experience as an iPhone and Mobile Safari because of both hardware and software constrictions. (Trust me, I play with my friend's handsets all the time. From Nokia to HTC touches). Opera Mini, IE, Minimo come close to - but currently are not even the realm of Mobile Safari competitors. And one last thing, what do you mean by ignoring the providers?
- Mona Nomura
@mona 7 years living in Japan ... there is no handset in the US which reflects the reality of competition in the mobile handset space - no matter the hardware - nokia bought loudeye which gave them no music biz benefit ... Point stands - first company which converts "willingness to pay" to "paid" wins - iPhone & musicmatch are market failures in Japan - because bandwidth is an expense in the US & a "value" in Japan - I'm in typical America which is 14th in bandwidth - motorola never had a chance in Japan
- Scott Moskowitz
@mona access providers create artificial points of leverage ... one is defining what you're network is ... chrome/safari create unreasonable ownership over what belongs to the user ... DoCoMo had to leave that alone - a Japanese landlne cost 700 bucks for installation for how long? ISDN was successful where in Japan - all those grey phones? They failed in the provider space which allowed Softbank & the bureaucrats to change their thinking ... AT&T, Verizon & Sprint are not lobbying for bandwidth competition
- Scott Moskowitz
That's why it's exciting to see other companies scrambling to keep up with Apple's achievements outside of Asian markets by: 1) shifting the market towards Open 'platform' 2) Tremendous revenue share opportunities with apps (regardless of how flawed the app store may currently be) and 3) Forcing the vets of this industry to take a look at their products and making changes. Palm and RIM - both which were dominating the marketing for so long are... well... no longer major competitors.
- Mona Nomura
As for your second point, I believe Telecomm companies ARE gradually pushing towards bandwith competition. Americans are about "the cheapest" and "best value" - with good reason. Before iPhones, we didn't have the 'need' for mobile data (aside from business users) As the US market continues to shift, you better believe data caps will soon roll out.I think Telecomm companies are gradually easing us into accepting cap'd data. Comcast started the ball rolling by cap'ing home data. Bold move.
- Mona Nomura
@mona my last comment ... bandwidth is not yet measured as a "value" even though caps are completely artificial ... there is *no* bandwidth scarcity just lots of lobbyists Comcast? Innovation NOT ... Bandwidth is the currency ... Optimize the value of a bit in a bit per time calculation (bandwidth = bit/time) & you win ... Until the market protects the value creator (you would be in that category) the argument concerning bandwidth scarcity is nonsense ... You should share in the demand for *your* bandwidth
- Scott Moskowitz
The iPhone didn't create the need for mobile data.. it's the internet-driven world we are living in that is driving it. iPhone might have a great browser, but it's not the end all for mobile internet.. http://friendfeed.com/e... - There were plenty of great phones for mobile internet before the iPhone popped out of Apple.
- Tim Hoeck
People have a respect for the quality of what Google delivers that is out of whack with the actual products they've been shipping for the last several years.
- Jason Carreira
hurdle # 1 (as mentioned in the article): at the end of the day, an Android phone is still not an iPod. It doesn't connect to the # 1 retail store for music, the iTunes Store. It doesn't let people who already have iTunes or an iPod take their iTunes Store-purchased music with them. It doesn't have the ecosystem of iPod accessories. etc.
- Karim
hurdle # 2: manufacturers can pick-and-choose what they software and hardware support want from Android, so there's no consistency; one person's "Android" phone has GPS and a camera and stereo Bluetooth; another person's "Android" phone doesn't have any of those. One person's "Android" has a ringtone store; another person's doesn't, and so on. The flip side of being "open" is the danger of forking or fragmenting the market.
- Karim
I think in the future, there will only be two mobile OS'es: iPhone OS and Android. If every mobile manufacturer except Apple runs Android, then Apple will have some real competition.
- Svartling
About a year ago, I favored an Android phone over the iPhone. But of course I came to my senses a few months ago. Still haven't sprung for the iPhone 3G, but it's on the list.
- Mike Reynolds
then the artificial bandwidth caps come along - no transparency - not to renew the argument over value-add & attribution but ...
- Scott Moskowitz
WordPress Developer’s Toolbox - http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008...
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Lots of Wordpress goodies.
- Robert Scoble
Tasty! Thanks.
- Chris Baskind
Cool, thanks!
- Dread Pirate PJ
Thanks!
- Soulhuntre
from twhirl
Remember, most Americans believe in God. Most Americans have kids in sports programs. Most Americans don't have a Passport. Palin wins.
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Robert, no offense, but you're really souring my stomach. Why not leverage your position and sphere of influence to fight for what you believe in. Or are you one of those creationist types too? Do you really think its game over with this election? Do I need to go find a place overseas and become an expat?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Ahhhhh... that's why you think McCain will win. I think 8 years, war & recession may sway the masses.
- anna sauce
Brian, lol. I have lived overseas for 4 years. Most Americans don't know how good they've got it.
- Justin Long
mores the pity
- ben rogers
from twhirl
If you think that the majority of the populace will vote for the candidate who most approximates them, demographically, then Obama has no chance at all. But we know this is not the case. Furthermore, Barack Obama believes in God (not just "god") and I presume his daughters play organized sports. Finally: most Americans believe that the Iraq War was a mistake and *not* part of God's master plan. You might want to factor those facts into your predictive formula.
- Chester
I love the idea that it isn't because people might actually agree with McCain on the issue - it must be because they are dumb fools who will vote for the folks with the hockey players. Let's ignore that this isn't how things have gone historically. At what point will folks on the left decide that just maybe folks who don't agree with them are well meaning humans with a different POV and not ignorant sheep?
- Soulhuntre
@BDE if you do, let me know. I've heard living the digital nomad life in South America is the perfect expat way to go.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Most American women are not former beauty queens...Most families do not have 5 children...And most Americans do not have such a fundamental view of Christianity
- Alex Scoble
Actually Soulhuntre it is how things have historically worked...Take JFK vs Nixon for instance...there were a lot of people who voted for JFK just because he was more charismatic...it has been so ever since
- Alex Scoble
Palin wins if Democrats are stupid enough to make her the main topic of the election.
- Chris Baskind
@Alex: Most people like prom and beauty queens. Most people have kids, it really doesn't matter the number. Most people are Christians and don't draw the distinctions between fundamentalist and non-fundamentalist because they don't need to. Also, I see no problem with having kids in sports programs...?
- Ben Parr
Alex - Good point. Gore and Kerry had zero charisma.
- Russellreno
I'm just pointing out how she is NOT like the average American.
- Alex Scoble
@Chris Well then they lost, because it seems Dems are incapable of focusing on anything else except Palin, which is Ironic considering attacks against Hillary was the harshest form of sexism ever.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
@Alex - charisma I will agree with. Charisma is a synthesis of a number of human judgments that tend to convey trust, leadership, dominance and so on. But charisma is NOT "the same as me". Heck, Obama is easily the most charismatic guy in this field, despite is sameness handicap as Robert sees it.
- Soulhuntre
Soulhuntre, since the Republican strategy for this election is to treat you like ignorant sheep, how do you expect us well meaning humans to believe any differently? Just sayin'
- jcunwired
Did Soulhuntre just agree with me? I think he did. Cool. *this is a 100% snark free comment...seriously*
- Alex Scoble
I think most "most"s are mostly made up.
- Craig Eddy
Two out of three here, but I'm still voting for Obama. Also, Chris Baskind is right: don't focus on Palin. Latest Obama ad indicates that focus is shifting back to McCain.
- Steve Lowe
I wonder why Obama's focus is on Palin/McCain instead of on Obama?
- Mistletoe Glen
I agree with Glen. Let's not be distracted by the red herring Palin. Let's focus on Obama, and where is Biden? It's time he spoke up, like he does at other times.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Per your own words, most people have as much experience and relativity as Palin. This is why they won't vote for her:) W00t!
- Roney Smith
That's an excellent point Glen.
- Keith Shepard
from twhirl
Robert, it really saddens me to hear you so pessimistic, but since the Palin pick embodies nothing so much as cynicism (as Frum says: It's a denial that information matters. http://tinyurl.com/4fsjxv ) yours is at least an honest, if hopefully transient response. I hope you feel better tomorrow.
- Rick Powell
@Alex - I've agreed with you before on stuff I think. And I think the reading upside down thing rocks :)
- Soulhuntre
@Jody C - obviously we have differing opinions on that :) Keep thinking we are idiots if you like - it is the core conceit that keeps democrats from making any headway. The core conceit that more often than not loses elections.
- Soulhuntre
Scoble is coming off as pompous with that tweet.
- David Risley
Soulhuntre, you misunderstand. I am not calling you idiots, merely pointing out that the misleading, untruthful ads put out by the McCain campaign lead me to think that Republicans think we are all idiots. Lets face it, they've treated us all that way since Bush's first campaign in 2000 (and subsequent promises broken), stepped it up on Sept. 11 leading up to Iraq war, and perfected it during the 2004 elections.
- jcunwired
I personally believe that in a few weeks this whole Palin crap will wear off/she'll really screw up. Obama is going to be our next President and that is great!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
No wonder you are losing followers. Sorry you really have wrong perception of democrats. Not everyone is a republican snob like yourself. A social media snob if i may add. Bye.
- orionstarr
Robert: Thanks for keeping it real -- you are only stating the obvious and sometimes people just won't accept it. Sadly, Progressive and tolerant are two different things, I guess.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
re: passports specifically...it is also the reason why most americans shouldn't be Vice President
- George Lee
from twhirl
Robert is dead center. The side with the best propaganda and images win. Palin is walking, breathing propaganda and the democratic leaders are not good propagandists. Republicans win. If you want Obama to win, you have to hope for better propaganda that resonates with Mr. & Mrs. Middle.
- Dean Terry
@Dean Terry So your saying most of the middle relates to white trash?
- orionstarr
Orion: Good retort!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I think it's sad to read someone not getting elected would be "soul crushing." Yes, elections are important, but they should not determine your happiness or lack of happiness. I was not happy to see Bill Clinton elected either time, but I never lost any sleep, never got depressed, never moved to Canada. I understand the desire to see Obama as today's John, Robert, and Martin, but he's none of the above.
- ComicList
Cathryn, the less Biden says, the better off Obama is. Biden has a record of racist and sexist comments, and Obama doesn't need to waste time apologizing for his VP. He needs to spend time explaining why he should be President instead of McCain.
- ComicList
One of the reasons I left the Democratic party was the constant harping on how it was so wrong that they would lose, and that the Republicans must have either pulled some dirty trick or fooled the voters into voting for them. No, it's actually possible a Democratic candidate, even Obama, can be rejected by voters because they believe the other candidate is a better choice.
- ComicList
NBC Drops Silverlight, Runs Back to Adobe for Flash - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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Hehehe. Sweet Vendetta! Expect a comment from John Dowdell in T minus 10... 9... 8... 7....
- Aldo Bucchi
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
But Flash choked on the NFL Opener. Now what are they gonna do, go back to Silverlight. Sheesh.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
The Silverlight install was huge beyond belief. Control Panel said it was taking up 4GB of space.
- James Williams
James: Which control panel?
- Oldengrey (Jay)
yeah and did u see how horrible flash went for them? streaming nfl quality was terrible.
- adolfo foronda
Uh, Silverlight is not a 4GB install.
- Jordan Hofker
thinking james must have gotten the "trojan.win32.longjohn.silverlight" download from driveby.installwarez.cn ;-)
- Karim
Yeah good riddance! Silverlight was a bother to install and then the video was a scaling nightmare...I don't mind flash choking a little, it will fix itself. It did do the job though: MSFT knows what they have to fix and NBC has leverage for the next silverlight video exclusive negotiations...
- Anthony Farrior
from FriendFeed MT Plugin
I used to work for macr and now a client is requiring me to use Silverlight. I see the pros and cons of both, but it is a little like groundhog day.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
Factchecking Palin, By Hilzoy - CBS News - http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...
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"I thought Palin's speech was quite good: well-written, well delivered. And, as I said earlier, I think she's a genuinely engaging person, and comes across very well. There were just a couple of problems. One, which I have seen people notice, but which I suspect won't be a big deal for a lot of voters, is that it had very little substance. The other, which the commenters I saw on TV for some reason neglected to mention, was that she told a lot of lies."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
article also points to more thorough fact checking - http://www.samefacts.com/archive...
- Atul Arora
commenters are humans too - as any media, they have their price tag too...
- A.T.
Huh?
- Jason Carreira
@paul - those are the two exact reasons I almost threw a rock through my television. she did a really nice job of switching from saying absolutely nothing to saying things that were pretty obviously false. and did so with such disdain.
- MG Siegler
Her speech was good, but it was designed to resonate with those who don't care about the facts. "I'm a soccer^H^H^H^H^H^Hhockey mom", "I live in a rural town", "I'm not part of the establishment", etc., etc. Sounds like PPT bullets turned into paragraphs.
- david koblas
Well, let's remember, the McCain Campaign has said this election is not about issues. So ... issues, facts ... who cares!?!? Lets hope Americans do.
- AJ Kohn
Apple at the tipping point and this is coming as no surprise - http://techwag.com/index...
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When people ask me whether they should buy a Mac or a Windows machine, I always tell them that you can basically do any job on a Mac or a PC. It may be easier to do one task on one machine or another, but in the end, you can do anything on either. I have two of each, and which one I use depends on which one I'm closest to. Except for gaming. :)
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Point taken, James. I've never even heard of PhaseExpress.
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
@James: There's always Parallels (or VirtualBox on Linux) for that one or two apps that only run under Windows.
- Eric P
I plan on getting a MacBook Pro soon but it's mainly because I want the best of both worlds via VMWare Fusion. A friend showed me his 17" MBP running Fusion and it's nothing short of spectacular. If I want to play a game that doesn't exist for Mac (which is become less and less common), bootcamp it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
If you are buying a laptop, it's a no brainer (IMO), esp with virtualization. If you are buying a desktop, likely doing it for something specific (gaming, etc). Then you need to think a bit. If you're going to use it for documents, email, doesn't matter that you have. It's a person choice. I am a mac and linux guy who can somewhat tolerate Windows
- Deepak Singh
"If you are buying a desktop, likely doing it for something specific (gaming, etc). Then you need to think a bit". You just don't want to say Windows!
- stefan
Why not get the best of all worlds with a hackintosh :)
- Tim Hoeck
Hi! I do feel that the Mac software and hardware is way superior to a Windows based PC or laptop in terms of ease of use, reliability , virus and spyware issues and stability. One of the reasons for this may be that Apple makes both the software and the hardware . I wonder why Apple does not follow the same strategy as MS and licence their OS to computer manufacturers like Dell, who are in any case tired of MS.
- Vinay Bawri
I look like one lone Windows user, but with the experience I have since 3.1, I still love my customizing at each iteration of the product, and with SP3 on a specific striped down version to my needs with custom policies and all my portable apps running on my iPod... nah, I'll stay in my little 'Zu-PC' but I usually recommend newbies to Macs for stability and relative ease of use (lots of people I help doing tech support that looks somewhat used to windows tend to alter their PC easily with no real concern.)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
And with JS on the web unchecked, it's dead windows w/ no firewalls...
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I do gaming that's a point, but I'm a linux user too, macs just hasn't done nothing specific I especially needed and finding some weird open source freeware for a specific task just doesn't seem around the corner for macs (only a vision, not necessarily true)
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
For someone for whom computers are an indispensable part of life, a Mac makes all the sense in the world since you don't have to spend time taking care of the unimportant - things work when you need them to (mostly) and you spend less of your time getting your computer to 'behave'. For those who use computers only occasionally like my Dad, they make sense for this very reason too. Gaming is perhaps the only segment where a Mac isn't really the best thing and that too is changing gradually.
- Parth Awasthi
Well, I guess that explains why I'm yet to see a Mac outside of Advertisements.
- Yuvi
Twhirl on Linux works JH
- Fred Grott
The Wisdom of Twitter - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008...
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hahaha!
- Anna Haro
Sarah Palin might be Psycho - http://www.dailykos.com/story...
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From March 9th, 2008 Bristol Palin (far right) appears pregnant in this picture but her mom (GOP VP hopeful) claimed the baby was her own. Why would anyone go this far? Perhaps because Mom is so religious and such an extremist that she is unwilling to accept that her own daughter had sex at such a young age, without protection, out of wedlock and was thus unable to justify having an abortion.
- Andrew Baron
from Bookmarklet
Bias. BS. Hide.
- Mike Lewis
From one publication: "According to comments from classmates and other members of the community, Bristol Palin was out of school during what would have been the last trimester of the governor's pregnany due to a bad case of mono. A case so severe, according to the Palin family, Bristol missed nearly 5 months of school." - http://www.postchronicle.com/news...
- Andrew Baron
She does look pregnant - but that seems pretty effin' out there...
- George Smith
I agree Mike. Low blow.
- Mattb4rd
Worst. Vetting. Ever.
- Pete Delucchi
I don't know. I feel like if they went to such great lengths to cover it up, they wouldn't have let their daughter be photographed in ANY way during her pregnancy. But it's a very odd story....
- Veronica
Very odd indeed.
- Tsega Dinka
I just can't believe this is true. I don't like Palin's politics but ... this seems whackadoodle.
- AJ Kohn
Very interesting! Will be interesting to see how this story develops.
- Jeff P. Henderson
What petty little people you are. Instead of coming up with a real argument you use character assassination and unsubstantiated drivel written on the Daily Kos blog.
- Chris Mayer
If you want left-leaning comments on the story, they are here: http://www.dailykos.com/story... (I am not endorsing this theory)
- Louis Gray
Not saying I think this is true or not, but you guys should realize that this is definitely not as "whacko" as one might think for families with certain beliefs. Even moreso for a family in the public eye.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
people should be checking their skeletons in their closets before condeming *anyone* for what they have done in their personal life. Regardless of the fact that she is now in the public eye her beliefs - right or wrong - are her's. If you are going to find fault with the woman then do it based on her political career - as limited as it might be.
- Steven Hodson
I would like to also state again that I understand this is a rumor and its an extremely far fetched one at that. But the story is so amazing due to several supposed facts or big 'ol coincidences.
- Andrew Baron
So if true, will the child grow up not knowing his sister is actually his mom?
- Rodfather
The real story is not the whacky rumor, but rather if how this baby is delivered is true, then she is a totally uncaring woman when it comes to having this child. She chose to fly when in a very late stage of pregnancy, which could have caused the premature delivery, she chose to go to the event after she was leaking amniotic fluid, she chose not to go to a Dr. after the event, but rather to get on another 8 hour flight with a stop, and then she drove to an out of the way hospital. Insane!
- Brad Nickel
Oh, and now she's taking a job that will take all of her time away from her family and her new special needs baby. Hello? Family values?
- Brad Nickel
Being as the baby has Down's Syndrome, and it's several orders of magnitude more likely in a 43 year old mother than a 16 year old, I'm thinking this is B.S., but hey, that's what people said about the National Enquirer stories about John Edwards last year.
- Jason Carreira
Brad - "Since she has a chance to change the world it is ok to leave the family" Micheal Medvid.
- Russellreno
ur pathetic... http://video.google.com/videopl... Sara Palin is the best political decision in a century
- Noah David Simon
Steven - when she is trading on the child to gain votes, it's not a personal issue any longer. Not that I particularly think much of the rumor in the first place.
- Alix Whitmire
Wow, just reading up on the water breaking and then flying thing. I mean, it's medical, it's personal stuff. I wouldn't want *my* medical stuff dragged into the open. Yet ... it does seem rather reckless. I'm hoping we just don't know the whole story - maybe she did it all under doctor's orders. Maybe she *needed* to get to a specific doctor. All that said, I remember my Kaiser classes - water breaks - you get to the hospital ASAP. *sigh*
- AJ Kohn
@Steven - Her career is based on those beliefs.
- Brad Nickel
Sarah Palin Conspiracy right up there with 911Truth? keep it up lefties. We won't need to worry about McCain.... you are going to scare the American public so badly with your rumors that they will be ready to have Dick Cheney for president.
- Noah David Simon
Why would people need to make up rumors about someone like Palin? She is as well known outside of Alaska as I am. (she might have me beat out on looks though)
- jerry
I'd rather ask my wife on substance - she recognizes pregnancy much better by external look than me...
- A.T.
If this nonsense is the best you can do in the way of criticism of Palin, then it proves she's a great pick for VP.
- ComicList
Compare the discussion on this on Daily Kos with the discussion here on Friendfeed: hit-and-run opinions on FF; a thorough discussion and analysis of the facts and evidence on DK. I wonder: is there something about the format of FF which encourages shallow banter rather than in-depth discussions? Regarding the pregnancy: in my opinion it's the business of the family, not my business....
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- Sean McBride
Oh, no, there's plenty of good policy things to criticize her for, as well as her experience, or lack thereof.
- Jason Carreira
Come on now, she *does* or *did* praise Obama's energy plan. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive...
- AJ Kohn
AJ -- making a speech and taking a long flight after one's water breaks, combined with all the other peculiar facts, doesn't prove anything -- but it sure does sound strange as hell. Perhaps there is a reasonable explanation. I've never heard of a similar situation before.
- Sean McBride
BTW - I feel very sorry for Bristol. She certainly never asked to have her name dragged around like this. I don't like Palin's politics but lets keep our humanity.
- AJ Kohn
Noah -- just think how crazy it would be to claim that the 9/11 anthrax attacks were a false flag attack which came from within the American government. Wait a minute: that's what the crazy conspiracy theorists at the FBI are claiming.
- Sean McBride
I hate conspiracy theories. That said, as far as I've seen, the evidence lines up in a way that allows this to be possibly true. And I'm one of those odd libertarian types. I'll let the media dig into this.
- Ben Parr
@Sean, I think it proves she has poor judgment whatever the reason she used for endangering her child's life. This is the woman that could be a heartbeat away.... Poor judgment by McCain and by her. One big bundle of irresponsibility.
- Brad Nickel
Ben, you articulated my thoughts exactly.
- Sarah Austin
That's really grasping at straws. Very silly.
- Dave Roth
Personally, I think this would have to rank of the highest order of conspiracy to be true. Not even taking into account the sheer craziness of someone trying to go through with such a cover-up. Lastly, I don't know about where everyone else lives, but I see plenty of high school girls here that certainly have a similar look...and they ARE NOT pregnant. Just pudgy in the middle high school girls who don't know how to dress well enough to compliment their figures.
- JA Castillo
Brad -- if the current published stories hold up about the speech and long plane flight which followed the breaking of water, not only did she display poor judgment -- she is reckless to the point of insanity. Yet one more of dozens of reasons why I couldn't possibly vote for her and McCain.
- Sean McBride
How the heck does this give any credible information to the issues surrounding the election? Give me a break! I'm sick of this "because she's a Republican we can't like her" stuff - whatever happened to looking at the issues she supports and doesn't support, her reasoning behind them, and then criticizing in true analytical fashion if she's wrong. These guys are politicians - they can't afford to change their opinion. We can.
- Jesse Stay
My wife says that from what it looks like (photos, etc) author is right about who had delivered baby. Also she said *too many* factors which should make her visibly pregnant were not, and hence IF she were pregnant at the time any _average_ woman with 2-3 deliveries experience near her (she is governor) would notice. That said, I think she will get share of female voters who gone trough similar or supportive for "mom covering daughter" scenario.
- A.T.
@Jesse: This is soap opera stuff. And I don't like Palin because of her politics, and her use of power as governor. However, politicians do change their opinion. Both candidates have done that. 'Flip-flopping' isn't necessarily bad. I'm okay if they stand up and say, I got it wrong before, I've learned. Has 8 years of 'admit no fault' inured us to this learning concept? I hope not.
- AJ Kohn
AJ, that's an excellent response - I'm tired of the soap opera stuff. As an independant I'm trying to learn the facts - this stuff just makes the side that's promoting it look bad. (I would say the same thing if it were the Republicans attacking Biden in a similar manner)
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
In another article on a related topic, her stance on abortion was pressed and apparently she believes that even someone who is raped, must have the child. This is a very extreme view for most people who are pro-life. Usually they feel there are certain situations that would make it morally okay to have an abortion. http://www.dailykos.com/storyon...
- Andrew Baron
@Jesse: Well, each party has these nasty elements unfortunately. I personally feel the right is more vicious, but then again, I lean left so I could be biased. And because I'm pro-choice (particularly for rape and incest) and anti-gun Palin doesn't mesh with me right off the bat. The use of her power for the dairy plant and in the firing of Monegan and severance for Kopp all worry me. These things, coupled with her inexperience and McCain's age make me far too nervous.
- AJ Kohn
The Amazing thing is Rush Limbaugh predicted exactly this kind of attack the day Palin was announced. Is he smarter than he gets credit for, or is the Left that predictable?
- Robert Hafer
AJ, Andrew, those were both great responses - now we're getting down to the raw positions and where we can have an opinion on the subject. AJ, personally, I'm with you - I put it in just the opposite way though. I'm pro-life, except in the case of rape or abuse or extreme circumstance.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Robert - I understand what you're saying, but his "predictions" were the same type of thing I'm critiquing these guys on. Let's stick to the raw issues, and stop the attacks and rumors.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Wow, here daughter does look pregnant in those photos.
- Mike Reynolds
Lefties are so damn predictable. Big tent my ass.
- David Risley
@Sean - you keep walking right into the brick wall that is the "experience / qualification" issue, seemingly impervious to the damage it will do the Democrats. If McCain is a fool for selecting a running mate light on qualifications and experience, what does it say about the Presidential candidate with inarguably LESS experience and arguably FEWER qualifications for the highest office in the land.
- Forrest Cox
And if I'm a Democrat, I find myself in a bit of a quandry if I choose to pay close attention to stories such as these about the opposition's VP candidate while ignoring the equally outlandish-but-seem's-to-bear-some-truth-type character assassination stories about my own Presidential pick (Wright, Ayers, etc., etc.). Remember how far the "murder lists" and similar Clinton-related urban legends got the Republicans? There ain't no gold in them thar hills m'friend. Only pain, for everyone involved.
- Forrest Cox
Better to win on the battlefield of ideas - that goes for both sides.
- Forrest Cox
I read this yesterday, as much as it sounds far fetched, look at the pics of her at 7mths and 8 mths. Look at the flight she took from Texas to Alaska while allegedly leaking embryonic fluid. If this story isn't true, then she's borderline negligent in the actions she took while pregnant.
- Duncan Riley
@Jesse: I would likely make a 'pro-life' decision myself but still think folks should have the right to choose. It does make me a little nutty when a pro-life proponent is against contraception eduction and gay adoption. Seems a bit cake-and-eat-it-too to me.
- AJ Kohn
@Forrest: McCain has seniority and length of service. Experience is subjective. As Senator Obama sits on more committees then McCain, they have similar absent voting records if you factor in campaigning, and Obama has been quite active in sponsoring bills.
- AJ Kohn
AJ, I agree - the whole "Pro-Life/Pro-Choice" issue isn't exactly cut and dry. I hate the terms, myself because it's as if there are only 2 positions to choose from.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
@AJ - Philosophically speaking this may not be the case, but in practice the notion that "experience" is purely subjective is patently absurd. If interpretation isn't ultimately subject to right & wrong, why all the fuss? The only time you try to interpret experience in purely subjective fashion is when you dislike associated objective evidence that would otherwise color your decision. To then try to present such a judgment in an objective manner gives us ridiculous statements like your comparison above.
- Forrest Cox
It also explains a great deal about the left's infatuation with Obama.
- Forrest Cox
@Forrest: Sorry. But it's not philosophical. There are plenty of folks who have more time on the job who clearly don't have more experience. Let's be clear, I'm giving McCain the tenure and seniority. For time served, he wins. But I believe many of us have personally had experiences where we've accumulated a wealth of experience in a short time. Perhaps you have not been so lucky.
- AJ Kohn
@Jesse: Yes, it's a sticky issue. Folks like me who support the right to choose are often painted as anti-life. I struggle with the issue and, as I've said, likely wouldn't choose it myself.
- AJ Kohn
@Forrest: BTW - I'll even give you that McCain has more 'experience'. I simply believe Obama has enough experience to be President and that his platform is the best one for this country.
- AJ Kohn
What a biased load of BULLSHIT! If it was Obama's daughter or Biden's daughter, would you even THINK of posting such a wacko load of CRAP? I'm guessing not! I don't know who I'm voting for yet but it sure as hell ISN'T a child of the VP nominees - leave the girl alone!
- Jeff Garlick
The Daily Kos case is looking more and more solid -- see the latest updates. I'm waiting now for the Palin camp to respond with evidence to shoot down the story -- this should be a very easy matter to clear up. A failure to respond will be interpreted by most people as confirmation of the truth of DK's charges.
- Sean McBride
The Daily Kos story is probably true -- if it is not true, it should be easy for Sarah Palin to refute.
- Sean McBride
Can I "hide" individual entries in beta.FriendFeed?
- Jesse Stay
Right Wing Response: http://townhall.com/blog... (The most important point: The picture is said to be from 2006, and it's hard to carry a baby for two years, unless you're an elephant)
- Louis Gray
The story has already gone mainstream -- Andrew Sullivan at The Atlantic: http://tinyurl.com/5ss2wv I'm surprised that quite a few people in this thread didn't immediately recognize that the Daily Kos story had legs -- the facts and reasoning were solid. Of course Palin can easily knock down the story by releasing the relevant medical records.
- Sean McBride
Sean, if that were my daughter I wouldn't want to bring any more attention to the story and to my daughter. The story's ridiculous, unfounded, and I sincerely hope my evening news isn't spoiled with news like this. Now, is there a way to "hide" this article? This has been around too long.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I'm sorry but no 72 year old men like McCain have the energy needed to run this country. Tell me when you saw a Fortune 500 company run out and hire a 72 year old CEO... and tell the shareholders about all the wonderful experience he has?
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
Jesse -- if the Palin camp doesn't produce medical records to refute the story within the next few days, it is probably going to go huge -- as big as the John Edwards story at least. Based on what I've read so far at Daily Kos, probably no refutation is available, I would prefer that the mainstream pay little attention to all stories of this nature, but I don't own and control the mainstream media.
- Sean McBride
Sean, you don't have kids, do you?
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
Jesse -- you are completely missing the point. I have kids. I wish stories like this received much less attention. But there is a good chance that this story is going to go huge in the MSM unless Palin is able to knock it down immediately with the relevant medical records. Take up your complaints with the MSM, not me.
- Sean McBride
Its ugly, but the record shows the Republicans leading by far the race to the bottom in this dirty campaign. That's pretty common. What is news though is McCain's reckless pop decision without consulting anyone or doing a proper background check for skeleton's in Palin's closet. And this is the "experienced" candidate? Reckless, desperate, and amateurish is the word I'd use.
- Indio Apache
from twhirl
If this rumor turns out to be false, I would like to personally apologize to Bristol for saying that she looks pregnant. But also, just wanted to note that there is some more info from Kos here that include more coincidences or possible arrows that point in the direction of this being true: http://www.dailykos.com/story...
- Andrew Baron
BTW, this is proaably *too much inoformation* but Sarah Palin says she eats "a healthy diet of wild Alaskan seafood, moose, caribou, and fresh fruit." She reportedly hunts the moose and caribou herself, too." - http://www.wnd.com/index...
- Andrew Baron
I think it sounds delicious, but I'm probably in the minority here. ;) The question now becomes - who would win in a shooting match - Palin or Cheney?
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
you people are on crack. AD HOMINAMINIMINUMINUMINATTI
- Noah David Simon
OMG!! Bristol Palin is *currently* 5 months pregnant, according to the NYTimes! http://www.nytimes.com/reuters...
- Andrew Baron
If the Reuters story is true, so much for the rumors. This is a stronger rebuttal to the rumors than official papers of any kind.
- Sean McBride
@Sean, why is this a rebuttal? Why couldnt this be Bristol's second daughter?
- Andrew Baron
Andrew - I guess the key issue is "five months." Everything hinges on the number of months.
- Sean McBride
Andrew -- and, even if the rumors were true, I think getting into this story is only going to do great harm to the Democrats and the Obama campaign. Most Americans will sympathize with the Palin family over this issue, and with good reason. There are other issues on which Palin is legitimately vulnerable.
- Sean McBride
Finally, maybe this story can go away. It has nothing to do with the issues, other than further solidify the family's pro-life stance.
- Jesse Stay
from twhirl
I dont mean to be playful here, and Im still not advocating the rumor, but I still think this new news does nothing to dispel the rumor.
- Andrew Baron
Is Facebook the Most Popular Social Bookmarking Service on the Web? - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Voyagerfan5761, Rich Harris, Lee Kent and 7 other people liked this
The Mobile Me web apps are like the hot girl or guy who you find out later on is actually really dumb.
Jeremy Brooks, Ed Terpening, Steve Olson and 6 other people liked this
Actually having second thoughts about rushing out to buy 3G iPhone. Reviews fairly mixed.
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Yeah. Doesn't it seem like there's a consensus building, a la Pogue, that the big news is the App Store and the 2.0 upgrade?
- Bill Barol
Buy. Send to me. You know the address. Ever need cheap accomodation on the Adriatic coast? I can set you up. (;
- Stan Schroeder
I am having doubts about the 3G iPhone as well, apparently if you use the in-car charger it drains the battery within 20 minutes!
- Joe Dawson
If anyone is tired of their 1st gen iPhone, sent it to me. I think they're great, and won't be upgrading until; 3G is in my area -- or I can choose from more than one carrier.
- Chris Baskind
Forget the Blogging Formulas - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Philip Ryan Johnson, cecily, sergiooo and 5 other people liked this
Exactly. I like reading the headlines on ProBlogger and such, but blogging, like writing or talking, should come naturally. Be yourself. Write about what you want for as long as you want. And if you find your readers are pushing you in a different direction, consider that advice, not an order.
- Louis Gray
Blogging is a topic definitely to diverse to be constricted by hard and fast rules. But I think the formulas are a good way to start out; tweaking and improving what works for you as you start out.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Priceless quote - "You will be successful when you come to the realization that there are no rules. The “rules” are a myth.Forget the Blogging Formulas. Write what you want when you want because the rest is just bologna."
- Mike Fruchter
great post Franklin
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Effective communications starts at the beginning… with insight - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r...
Philip Ryan Johnson and Paull Young liked this
Smart post Tom - the importance of research & insight is all to frequently overlooked
- Paull Young
A great explanation of the current media environment. People need to focus less on the technology and more on those who—may not be—using it. Well done.
- Philip Ryan Johnson
@Paull/@Philip: Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad I'm not not alone :-)
- Tom Murphy
it would be cool if Friend Feed could have a mobile web site.
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http://www.louisgray.com/live... feedalizr
- Bill Bittner
fftogo is the one, I really like it and have seen a few comments posted here from there!
- Joe Dawson
The above link breaks due to the via tag. Here it is: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Louis Gray
fftogo is your place :)
- Ben Borges
fftogo rocks!
- Dieter Schwarz
Another vote for fftogo here, works really well!
- Joe Dawson
:)
- Benjamin Golub
from fftogo
fftogo is what i use too, love it.
- J Allen
use a mobile feedreader? (or an iphone -- duck)
- dK
I would like an official FriendFeed2Go that doesn't require me to remember that stupid key.
- Aaron Myers
fftogo!
- Sarah Perez
Yes. would be great
- Navin
Yeah I agree, why not?
- Timon
+1 for an official mobile version
- Alessandro
http://fftogo.com is my mobile FF site
- Susan Beebe
+1 for an official mobile version also.
- Jason R. Hunter
+1 for an official IPHONE version! :-)
- Dieter Schwarz
+1 for an iPhone version too
- Giovanni De Stefano
from fftogo
+1 iPhone version, and being able to make FF shares via SMS
- Steve Isaacs
+1 for an iPhone version!
- Daniel Spradau
+1 for iPhone version
- xero
+1 for iPhone version....whyTF isn't it out already? Look at Hahlo...amazing, but limited due to Twitter API.....do it now!
- Philip Ryan Johnson
from twhirl
with Nokia Tablet, I don't need neither mobile version of FriendFeed nor iphone ;)
- A.T.
Have you tried Loopt, yet? I'm looking forward to the iPhone app. (www.loopt.com)
- Mike Dotta
Java isn't inter graded into my Dash's browser. Your phone must be like a laptop.
- Jacob
+1
- Mitchell Tsai
My credentials stay in the login area but I keep getting kicked back to the login screen all the time!
- Joe Dawson
+1 not just focus on the iPhone, there're majority of nokia, moto, samsung users.
- Langley Zhu
I normally have a iPod Touch or computer with me when I want to check FF, but sometimes FFTOGO will work, I just don't like the whole remote key thing.
- Aaron Myers
fftogo is nice, but not enough, it's not compatible with enough phones, hoping FF is going to provide it's own mobile
- Majento
Blackberries! Including the smaller screen of the Pearl.
- David Silvernail
yes, i have a samsung instinct and ff on there won't even keep my login info w/o shutting off the web browser.
- Admiral Anika
I hate the remote key on fftogo,why we can't log on with our own password for Christ's sake
- Steve Chou
User 21 » FriendFeed Has ~75,000 Active Users (Personal Research) - http://user21.com/2008...
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Interesting analysis that also breaks down "the top 20 'heaviest' (most subscribed to) FF users." What's notable is that many of these same influencers put Twitter on the map.
- Steve Rubel
from Bookmarklet
Must read now.
- Russellreno
Interesting table!
- Louis Gray
I would like to see 21-50.
- Russellreno
This data is lame. Notice # 20 - he barely even uses FriendFeed at ALL! He only has 2 organic posts. His entire FF is just a cross-post of his twitter and upcoming feeds - that’s it… ok ooooh 14 comments since last year - wow! let me go follow that guy! gees. I guess this list strikes a nerve, 'cuz I keep seeing lists of "cool" people - yet they are NOT the really *contributing* to FF; now granted MANY of them are, and you know who they are - i do! and I am GLAD they are here.. trim list!
- Susan Beebe
I too am impressed that the folks who built the twitter empire are re-building their empire over in FF- which I applaud as FF is a worthy service and gives us more conversation!! My rant is due to folks listed as key players in FF that don't really even use the service
- Susan Beebe
they are key players in the analysis Susan because of the number of people who subscribe/follow them. is it lame that ~20% subscribe to someone who doesn't participate much? I don't think so, at least not if people wish to see Arrington's blog/twitter/flickr etc feeds via FriendFeed.
- Robert Seidman
Cool job... Love the stats!
- Mitchell Tsai
Note the correlation between the top 10 and those who make up the "default recommendation" list for new users. Re: Allen Stern's post, it's how FF targets the influencers.
- Sprague D
Susan and Robert. I agree with each of you. Arrington does not participate here, but FF is a great place to find all of these people in one place.
- Russellreno
completely agree @Sprague D, you are right. The top list are all the people on the default list. I notice my recommended list never ever changes and I refuse to follow folks just because everyone else is.
- Lou Paglia
What is "contribution"? How many people actively comment/like/post? I don't think I've ever seen a post with more than ~300 likes or ~200 comments. For a userbase of 75,000 people, that's much less than 1%.
- Mitchell Tsai
Funny. This guy's stars show only 10,000 subscribe to me. FriendFeed says more than 15,000 do now. So, either FF has really grown a lot since he took his stats or he missed more than he thought.
- Robert Scoble
Er, stats. Can you tell I am FF'ing from an iPhone?
- Robert Scoble
Compared to how many on Twitter? People like to compare Twitter & FriendFeed, but they are very different beasts. Sure you could use FF as a microblogger, but what a waste, it's the aggregation and conversations that make it what it is. I too wonder why some of the folks in the top 20+ are so widely followed... it's not that they aren't interesting, I just think there are many others who are contributing more unique and insightful perspectives.
- LogEx
Somehow I can't convince the 30 or so people that follow me on Twitter to friend me here. :( sadness.
- Zach Underwood
Maybe the data is a little stale Robert. Looking at his older blog posts it seems he started his experiment back in mid-june but only posted his analysis over the weekend. Although its not presented very clearly
- Jon Dillon
Your information is interesting. I personally like FF better than Twitter
- Theresa Geyer
Think Seidman's piece addresses this nicely http://www.youhavetobekiddingme.com/2008...
- Charlie Anzman
"This guy's stars show only 10,000 subscribe to me. FriendFeed says more than 15,000 do now." ok Robert, we belive what you say, you got 15K followers - so what ?
- Peter Dawson
He says that he may be missing 10-15%, but based on Robert Scoble's data (and considering all the private feeds), maybe that should be 25-50%. Perhaps also a lot of people with private feeds subscribe to Robert (a "discriminating" crowd).
- Mitchell Tsai
Peter: why the bile? We're talking about stats and I'm giving mine. Since I'm mentioned in the article above, I think it's relevant to the conversation.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, I had no idea friendfeed was so big (not matter the exact figures). Still feels like a small town (in a good way).
- Sutee Dee
@susanbeebe - just to clarify - in this context “active” simply means discoverable, and it doesn’t matter if a person actually does anything on FF as long as his feed keep flowing in. If he is active on twitter and doesn’t even set foot in FF, he will still be picked up by my crawler because his twitter activity contributes to his FF feed. Also not that no matter if he spends time on FF, the data I collected suggests that many people follow his FF feed, which is what I wanted to find out.
- Yuval Atzmon
@Robert and others - The data was indeed collected during the second half of June. Please look at this FF thread http://tinyurl.com/6h7zc6, check smernit and jowyang numbers, and compare to a longer list I will publish tonight. I'd say they fit well within the 15-20% margin. Also, as far as the big guys go, I'm sure I'm missing more than that. There are probably a lot of dormant/inactive users who simplly follow Scoble and Arrington without contributing to the feed (which makes them non-discoverable).
- Yuval Atzmon
A Sample Blogging Workflow - http://www.chrisbrogan.com/a-sampl...
Mark Eckenrode, Philip Ryan Johnson, michael sean wright and 11 other people liked this
Chris, I totally "dugg" this one too, nice piece of writing, headed to "digg" it now!
- Keith Bloemendaal
wow chris that is some depth - nice job :)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Excellent advice. I would add textpad under tools and FF
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Interesting ideas to put in practice for my own blogging
- Calos
Great article!
- Mitchell Tsai
ServeBlast - http://serveblast.com/learn...
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Reasons why we don't regularly backup. Too lazy = 100%
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
that's not true.. tons of people are still too non technical to know better!
- Stefan Hayden
I really think the only really good backup system will be one where the OS we're using does it for us automagically. It will upload the files to a server which will them break them into tiny pieces and redundantly copy them all over everywhere. If a file is lost you'll be able to retrieve it bit torrent style.
- Chrimmus Tad
I don't make backups because I like living on the edge! I'm a wild rebel staring horrifying data loss right in the face and laughing heartily!
- Akiva Moskovitz
Dropbox.
- Benjamin Golub
[Politico]: Obama beating McCain 2-1 in coverage - http://x.newsjunk.com/0KP
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"Obama is covered in the press twice as much as McCain."
- newsjunk.com
Skippy Peanut Butter Tin Can, 1930's - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
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Looks more like Semi-Gloss Skippy Peanut Butter!
- Kevin Shannon
Looks like we need a retro can. Nutrition labels be damned.
- Josh
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