Is Zooomr dead? It seems there is not much life left in the old dog. Zipline is very quiet. The blog hasn't been updated since January. Help forums aren't being moderated or even responded to. It just seems, well, over. I'm interested to know what people know. Am I wasting my time uploading to Zooomr nowadays?
I've not been by there very much lately. As great as the community is, as well as the photography, the site has been so slow for me over the past year or so that I find it unusable. It is a shame too.
- Andy Roth
I have no complaints about the usability, and I second Andy's thoughts on the community, but it does seem like Kristopher has lost interest. It's a shame really, for Zooomr never pulled the kind of censorship/deletions that Flickr is currently catching a lot of heat for.
- Dave Roth
yep Zooomr's move to Japan killed it as Kris is distracted; and it feels like TH is too busy Flickr bashing to push Kris into making zooomr compete
- Phill Price
I have to say that a great number of my contacts on Flickr and Friend Feed were originally Zooomr contacts of mine. When things were working well, Zooomr was a really fun, exciting place to hang out, and really accelerated my interest in photography. Flickr doesn't do that for me at all.
- Dave Roth
Agreed with everyone here about the community. I remember waiting for the updates to the site with TH and Kristopher on Zooomr TV. Sadly I haven't used the site in ages myself.
- Brian Sloane
Those were good times waiting for the next big update to roll out. Except for the times when the next big update took the site down for a month.
- Andy Roth
thomashawk would be a good one to ask ...
- johnpiercy
I think I'm going to stop uploading. I do get the occasional fave, but I'm not putting the effort in I should either. I like Ipernity, so I may put my efforts in there.
- Chris Nixon
I don't think we'll get an answer from TH, and to be fair, he's probably not in a position to comment freely.
- Chris Nixon
I think you are right, Dave. The community has kind of been lost. It would be nice to have a re-union somewhere on the web to catch up and see how all the old crew are doing, and what they are up to now.
- Chris Nixon
Been asking this question in my head for a long time. TH hasn't posted anything to the Zipline in over a year and Kris is too busy working on his next "big thing". If only there was some transparency. According to Alexa, traffic is down from a year ago and Compete looks just as bad. My guess is that Kris' new sites are what is keeping Zooomr alive because they probably run on its underlying framework.
- dbcohen
For a while it seemed that they were going in the direction of mobile photo sharing, then they just seemed to miss the boat as other sites came along and overtook.
- Chris Nixon
I made the decision to stop posting photo's to Zooomr about 2 months ago as I decided to concentrate my efforts to a more limited number of sites and unfortunately Zooomr was the first to go. I'm now focussing on my sites including SmugMug and using flickr to share with family.
- Russell G
When I get a chance I'll stick a shart up with my fave and comment rates for flickr, ipernity and zooomr (can only get view details from ipernity sadly)
- Phill Price
I agree that support and communication from Kris and his staff has been sorely lacking. I believe in Zooomr and those that frequent it enough to continue to support it. I find it counter to the principles and participants of the site to abandon it when things appear to be lacking, just to go join anther faceless site. If you believe in it, you should support it. That's what will make it better. Leaving is just a cop out.
- Skip Moore
BTW, I believe much of this discussion should be on Zipline, out in the open, for all to see.
- Skip Moore
I'm just glad people are discussing Zooomr again. It's still a good place.
- Dave Roth
Skip: It's not that I don't support it...it's that I don't think they support it any more. If the founder and staff aren't active. What is the point?
- Chris Nixon
Ever since Kristopher moved to Japan, there have been no significant updates to the Zooomr web site and very few comments or communication from Kris. Whatever Kris has been working on seems to to be much more important to him than maintaining Zooomr. He seems to have all but abandoned the Zooomr web site. I have not heard much about his Mobile activities in the last year or so either. Sad really, Zooomr had a great community when Kris was actively developing and participating in it.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'm still posting on Zooomr and get more traffic/faves on my photos there than I do on Flickr, but that's probably because I have more contacts and longer history there. There needs to be a perception that Zooomr will be maintained and updated, that clearly isn't happening now. And there needs to be actual updates. I sincerely hope Zooomr isn't dead. If Kris has moved on, maybe someone else can step up and take it over.
- Gary H
I agree with Gary. I get far more traffic/faves on Zooomr than Flickr. The community may be small on Zooomr, but we are very supportive of each other. I would hate to see it end.
- Celine Chamberlin
I'm getting misty-eyed just seeing a lot of old friends in this thread.
- Dave Roth
from iPhone
I used to use it, but got busy and stopped, I did seem to get more activity there than flickr... Recently thought about setting up a little script to email something to zooomr like I'm doing on flickr, but could not find out how...
- Grant Bierman
I still upload to Zooomr but I do feel like it kinda died. It would had been a nice free competitor or a free version of Flickr if only they kept working on it.
- Outsanity
Everyone, thank-you for your continued thoughts and comments in regard to Zooomr. I know that I haven't been doing a very great job at keeping everyone up to speed on the latest and greatest, but the Zooomr Japan team and I have been working in silence on something that we want to share with everyone before the end of the year. I really feel that the direction that Zooomr will take in the coming months will be very refreshing. When others note that I've started other projects and companies -- they are correct in saying so, but I have only done so to keep Zooomr alive in its current form. Zooomr is a costly beast -- it certainly is not cheap to run Zooomr and I needed to start something more profitable to keep the site running for the last two years. I hope all of you can understand and respect my decisions -- even though some of them have not always been the best. That said, Zooomr is not dead, but is currently shedding its skin and evolving into something that I hope will get back to its original roots. With Zooomr, I certainly believe that it will only be dead on the day that its community parts ways. No matter what shape Zooomr takes, I truly hope that in my heart of hearts, everyone got even a little joy from Zooomr and its friendly community. I will try to keep in touch more. with continued love and respect, kristopher.
- Kristopher Tate
Thanks for the update Kris, I look forward to seeing what's coming.
- Grant Bierman
Cheers for the update Kris. Much appreciated.
- Chris Nixon
Thank you, Kristopher. I really appreciate the update. Keep it up. :)
- Celine Chamberlin
Thanks, Kris. It's good to hear from you again.
- Dave Roth
I love how Kris pops his head out when public mention of his neglect for Zooomr come out, it's like clockwork. Months of silence in the help groups and support emails, then one public outcry and he's right there. While he's here, maybe Kristopher would like to talk about the money that was invested in Zooomr from both investors and members, and where that money went when Kris up and left for Japan. Maybe he'd like to discuss how those investors (and I'm not talking VCs, I am talking working folk who believed in Zooomr and invested into it) were repaid for their investment? Quite a few people were hurt by Kris' up-and-leave, it should be pretty easy to figure out who they were, they were some of the most active members on Zooomr who suddenly went silent....
- Mr350Z
Good to hear from you, Kris. Thanks for the update. Color me hopeful.
- Andy Roth
TH's take on where Zooomr stands... "It's sort of running on autopilot at this point -- I do hope that Kristopher does something interesting with it in the future, but for a while I've been pretty disconnected from it all and certainly am not doing any sort of CEO duties at this point. " http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Mr350Z
I love how comments are "adjusted" after the fact, in order to counter later comments...amazing.
- Mr350Z
As far as I'm concerned it was dead long, long ago. EDIT - this also explains why TH has so much time to devote to Flickr bashing.
- cecily
Cecily, Zooomr isn't dead. It does have its issues, but I'll take that over the censorship issues Flickr has. As for TH, he said he left Zooomr because he and Kristopher had different ideas on which direction to take things.
- Celine Chamberlin
Censorship, schmensorship. When are people going to learn that unless you're hosting your own photos on your own server that you have to play by the site owner's rules - even if those rules seem totally arbitrary?
- cecily
Cecily, if I pay for an account at a site (and I am a paid Flickr user), I expect to at least be warned before permanent action is taken... especially givven how often Flickr is proven wrong and all they can offer is an "oops, my bad" while the user is screwed. Paying for an account should offer at least some rights for the user.
- Celine Chamberlin