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Paul Buchheit
I'm surprised that people think everyone subscribed to their RSS feed actually reads their blog. In Google Reader, I'm subscribed to hundreds of feeds (including a number of bundles), but really only read a couple of them. The same for iGoogle, etc. (re:
Do you read all of your feeds? - Paul Buchheit
I skim them all quickly. The 'j' key is my friend: next, next, next, ... - Fred Yankowski
I do. If you call reading, browsing "all items"... - David Schmidt
Same here; I've got about 500 feeds in bloglines, most of them in folders I literally never click on. - Casey Muller
Hmmm... I wonder if there's a better way to get at those couple of things you read? - Cliff Gerrish
I think I make it a point to read everything in about 15% of the blogs: otherwise, it's just skimming through the headlines. This is exactly what I do on FriendFeed, so this Feedburner business is fine by me. I'd like to figure out why my projects feed got the FriendFeed bump when my blog feed didn't, though. - Mark Trapp
I guess people are very optimistic :) - Paul Buchheit
People should think instead that everyone subscribed to their RSS feed feels bad about all those unread items. - Johannes
Why would you subscribe to things you don't read? - Gabe
I've trimmed my feeds down to a number that I can check out each item. Why subscribe to hundreds of feeds if you aren't going to read them? Search? - Sam Grover
Cliff, it works reasonably well for those couple of feeds I read because I can login every few days and skim the headlines (I don't read the full content of anything). Gabe, I basically subscribe to anything that sounds like it might be interesting, then simply stop reading anything that doesn't keep my attention. Google Reader makes this very easy, and there's really no downside to staying subscribed. - Paul Buchheit
Gabe: would you consider skimming headlines and reading things that spark your interest from there the same as reading a blog regularly? Most of the blogs I subscribe to have maybe 1 in 10 stories that'll interest me: because of that 1 in 10, I subscribe to them. I wouldn't consider myself reading the blogs, though. - Mark Trapp
I think that attitude spills over to FF and Twitter as well though - especially a problem with real time FF. At least FF has a mechanism for bringing things to foreground that might be more important. - Brian Sullivan
The scale of my available time for reading feeds varies over time. The number of feeds I'm subscribed to only increases over time. Occasionally I "start over". - Jason Wehmhoener
I read the majority - Shevonne
no not even close - andy brudtkuhl
I don't read every article of every feed, I don't think anyone does. However from the feedburner reach stat, I see that about 50% of RSS subscribers do fetch the complete article (can't tell whether they actually read it). From referral logs, way less than 1% of people subscribed to me on friendfeed click through to blog postings. Thats a big difference. - DGentry
That's because the subscriber count metric is useless to begin with. So why pad it now with even more numbers? - Aviv
My intent is to read most Jason, though, I have to start over at times, and toss out what I'm not actually getting to. (there's also a separate category of utility feeds like Steam game releases, crimewatch info, etc. that's not really the same as real people writing stuff. I skim those pretty much 100%) - Ken Kennedy
Not even close to all, I have +150 feeds on GReader and follow +120 tumblrs. There's no way to read all this stuff and it not be my job. - Cornelius Toole
I don't think it's useless Aviv. It's not exact, but a blog with 10,000 subscribers will almost certainly have more actual readers than one with 10. (the proportions are useful) - Paul Buchheit
Agreed, can basically figure out where something is on the power law graph, but not exact rankings. - Ken Kennedy
Yes, I read everything I subscribe to in Google Reader. I only subscribe to full feeds, I use Expanded view, and I hit "J" scanning each article. If a site doesn't offer a full feed, I don't subscribe. I don't personally consider FriendFeed a feed reader, and won't until and unless it (1) displays full articles (2) gives me the option to mark articles read/unread. - Ken Sheppardson
There's no cost for the unread, except to the extent it makes reading those one or two items difficult. - Cliff Gerrish
Lots of people have magazine subscriptions and newspaper subscriptions but never or rarely read them -- and are often just to lazy or unaware to unsubscribe even when it costs money. RSS subscription costs nothing and is easy to subside -- I am guessing many subscribe in good faith thinking they might read, then never or rarely read and just never bother to clean up. - Brian Sullivan
Paul, that's certainly true, but it's like saying that a site with 10,000 unique visitors must have more visitors than a site with 10 uniques. My point is, should the number of a blogger's FF subscribers count as unique hits in their Google Analytics page? - Aviv
Brian, right, so if Maxim opens a FriendFeed account and gets 20,000 people to subscribe to their account - should they tell advertisers they just earned 20K new subscribers to the magazine? - Aviv
Paper publications play all sorts of games with numbers talking about subscribers and readers as different numbers but there are standards. So they can't claim subscribers to the magazine because of the FF subscribers. - Brian Sullivan
Aviv, there's a difference between what Feedburner stats should show, and what they actually show: there's a case to be made that Feedburner should be as accurate as Nielsen PeopleCounters, and we should all be able to use those numbers to determine things like advertising revenue, but the argument being posited here is that Feedburner was never that accurate (or that they aren't meant to be that accurate), and adding FriendFeed stats doesn't change that for the worse. - Mark Trapp
Brian: oh, well, I wasn't aware that bloggers don't have standards... - Aviv
Bloggers don't have standards -- not in the sense that they are agreed upon between publishers and advertisers and auditible. - Brian Sullivan
I read everything I'm subscribed to or I unsubscribe. That is why I can't use FriendFeed except as another filtered source for my RSS reader ( - Sam Pullara
I'm sure I'm subscribed to tons and haven't opened up my RSS reader in months. - Thomas Hawk
I don't think FF stats should be reflected in metrics that measure blog readership - at least not yet (still waiting for the day I can click on a little plus sign and read the blog post inline;). Look, I'm subscribed to you, because I enjoy your activity on FF, but just a moment ago was my first ever visit to your blog. - Aviv
By the way, how much of an article do I have to read before it counts as "read"? The whole thing? The first paragraph? 50%? Does it depend on how long the article is? - Ken Sheppardson
Aviv: but the point being made is that even without FriendFeed statistics, Feedburner doesn't accurately show blog readership via the "subscribers" metric anyway. Whatever Feedburner does show doesn't seem to be affected by the addition of FriendFeed subscribers beyond a sudden jump in the number. Taking the Feedburner statistics, without FriendFeed, as being an accurate representation... more... - Mark Trapp
Well, if FF knows that FB's numbers are bogus to begin with and doesn't mind adding some of their own numbers even though they obviously don't represent actual readership or anything close to that, then you're right, no point to even argue. :) - Aviv
Next thing you know, will start reporting to FB and count followers are readers. And why should FB have a problem with this? After all, it's always nice to see the blogosphere growing.. ;) - Aviv
I do read lot of them. Not daily. But i try to catchup once in a while. I have 150+ - Vivek Puri
I read all my feeds. I don't expect everybody reads mine every day. - Louis Gray
i think its important to trim subscriptions once a month. we like to think that we can read everything we want to read. Everytime i add an RSS feed i get tickled with excitement that i'll soon be melding that blog our site into my internal matrix and knowledge machine. I think being a self arbiter is really important. Also, seeing so many unread blog geeds can be discouraging...always saying to yourself...oh i should be reading more. when in fat that is not the case. Reading less can very well be more... - Zachary Adam Cohen
@louisgray cough BS cough ;) - Zachary Adam Cohen
Confession time! Yep, I've got tons of "unread" items in my gReader. It's become a wasteland of abandoned feeds. (ok bookmarking service?) LOL ... I live here in FF, Tweetdeck, Techrigy SM2, etc. Don't get me wrong, I dont' ignore my feeds, I found it much easier to just make lists and imaginary friends (feeds) here in Friendfeed - way better client than gReader - Susan Beebe
Nope. I have all my feed broken down in lists, though, and only manage to read around 50 of the 200 feeds in there. - Brandon
I find that I am reading quite a few more feeds since switching to Twitter, and reading them more productively. - Sean McBride
Interesting -- I've just asked a few friends to send me their OPML files so that I can do a little network analysis. (1) Lots of people tell me that they're using Twitter and serendipity to keep in touch these days, and that they're using their RSS readers less. (2) *everyone* on the list is in danger of info overload if they're REALLY reading that many blogs. Here's an interesting post from 43 folders about avoiding RSS overload - - Mat Morrison
Zachary... I read all my feeds. I never mark all as read. - Louis Gray
I try to read them all, but if I notice that I'm regularly marking all of the items in a particular feed as read, then that's typically one step north of removal (for me, at least). I keep a pretty tidy feed list, for the most part. - Brett Kelly
I usually skim all items in my All Items list of Google Reader, just like Robert Scoble showed in a video a few years ago. If I find something interesting I will read the post right in Reader or if it's to long (and sometimes videos) then I will ctrl-click to open it in a new tab. When I completed skimming the whole list I will read the opened tabs. - Peter Stuifzand
I scroll through and read headlines quickly. If I see one I like, I'll read the article. - EricaJoy
Agree w/ EricaJoy. That's the general purpose of RSS, to skim through sites/feeds that you have some interest w/o going to the page unless there is something of interest. RSS Readers are almost personalized, granted mostly not intelligent (yet), Search Engines or enhanced Bookmarks. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I subscribe to a number of feeds, and read all but two. Those two frequently get the "Mark All As Read" treatment. - Piaw Na
i don't read all of my feeds - but i do search them for certain topics all the time - mike "glemak" dunn
I religiously unsubscribe from anything I notice that I'm not actually reading. Keep the clutter to a minimum! - Murray Barton
If I'm not interested in reading a feed I don't subscribe. Do I read every article in some, skim some, and save some to read on the weekend when all my feeds have less activity, and I have more time. - Bonnie Foster
Every feed, over time, sure; every single feed item, no. - Grant Bierman
why subscribe, then? Curious... - Valeria Maltoni
i switched all my feeds over to friendfeed. i don't even look at google reader anymore - Tyler Gillies
Blogs are for slow consumption. Friendfeed, Twitter are my quick glance channels. They provide rivers of information I can dive into if I feel like it. I use GReader to subscribe mostly to people that actually take the time to think before they write. No TechCrunch or other networks there. I get slapped around with that on any other channel I'm watching. GReader is my e-book/essay reader. I try to read it all and I enjoy the slow consumption as it makes me smarter ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, you might... but not everyone else does.. Feedburner numbers are BS anyways.. :) - Tim Hoeck
Not trying to convince anyone, just explaining what it is I do. GReader for the long and in depth stuff, everything else goes in the firehose - Alexander van Elsas
No, not all...just a few Favs & Essential/Pro feeds. & ya i use GReader :) - Roshan Ramachandran
There's also a difference between skimming the headlines and actually "reading" the entire article. Also, rarely do people click through to the blog on Google Reader - on FriendFeed that happens much more, as I'm sure you have stats to prove. - Jesse Stay
@Jesse, my personal experience with FF makes me sometimes wonder if people did actually read the original item. Often initial comments and discussions seem to start in a different direction then the item that was posted. It seems to happen most often with blog items. Not saying that is bad or anything. But I do wonder.... ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Blogging isn't dead. What is dead is READING. Blogs and sites in general especially Newspapers need to transition to VIDEO. I mean, you'll read things you find compelling, but you're 10x more likely to watch a video of it. There's nothing sacred about text. It was the means of recording of its day, but now video is the recording of its day. - Stephen Pickering
Paul, is it possible to make the numbers going to Feedburner a choice based on the user? Personally, while I think there are a few quirks, I like the decision and would prefer you not go back. - Jesse Stay
@Steven, I like video but I rarely watch it. I turn it on as radio in the background ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
Alexander, yes, I agree, maybe I should have emphasized SOUND as well. When I listen to Video Podcasts for instance, I usually listen in the background too - Stephen Pickering
I'm surprised people still think people read. - Eric Nakagawa
Yes, most of them. The ones that accumulate in the unread pile get unsubscribed to because it's a signal that the information isn't that compelling or useful. I unsubscribed to many high-volume blogs because I *will* see them via FriendFeed. So the feeds I *do* have in RSS are fairly well groomed and read - I'll certainly get around to all of them in a week. - AJ Kohn
@erik, you must be living on another planet than I do ;-) - Alexander van Elsas
i sadly agree with stephen @pickering . "what is dead is reading" - bora "head" basman
i agree with you up to some point. I don't miss the personal blogs but big websites such as Rollingstone or digg offer a lot more content than I can possibly spare time to read. Most of the time I miss them for a few days, then I notice that there are 1000+ entries to read. - Yiğit Arda Türkoğlu
I just read and skip to important blog or news. Too many things to read these days, too many information - Hendra Saputra
I use my feed readers in a somewhat deviant way: I create categorized folders about the topics I'm most interested in ( RSS / OPML, Firefox, Twitter, Online Reputation Management, etc). When I come across a feed of interest, I 'feedmark' it by adding it to the appropriate category. Each of these folders become reading lists. Most of the reading lists I create are publicly available at... more... - Marjolein Hoekstra
The way for Newspapers to save themselves is to become video centric, not throw their paper up on the net. Boring. They need to become to internet TV stations. They need to be 24/7 real time. That's what the world is. They need to hire a Leo Laporte for every category and it needs to be totally interactive. When you go to the it needs to be a totally different experience. Look at the money they have compared to Leo. They could transition to this in a second. - Stephen Pickering
I read almost all my feeds. If I stop reading a feed, I generally remove it so it won't distract my attention. - 9000
nope, I only read faved feed. When faved feed is running out of interesting stuff, then I go dig the rest - Toni @ NavinoT
This is why I declare bankruptcy regularly in Google Reader: So I can read all my feeds. This is also why I don't have 1000+ unread. I subscribe to sites I read, not to popular sites. - Bwana ☠
I'm very selective and hate skipping items. So yes, i read (almost) everything. In fact, when i can't read all, I unsubscribe. - stanjourdan
BTW, friendfeed is precisely the tool complementary with FF because they are different : in FF you can't read everything (but the community filters what is important) whereas on reader, you're more likely to read everything. Very different use IMO - stanjourdan
Despite my best efforts - many feeds go unread. That is why the reach number is so important vs. actual total readership. - Eric
It seems to me that the main point of this discussion is that we need to develop advanced news recommender systems that automatically push the most important news to us on a person by person basis. I wish that Friendfeed would seize this bull by the horns. That most important news should be sifted from all the news in the world, not just from our feed collections. - Sean McBride
I think that people who don't read almost everything just don't use their reader as they should. But that is just my point of view. - stanjourdan
The "Mark All Read" button is a form wishful thinking. Perhaps, it'd be better labeled "Don't Care." - Cliff Gerrish
what's funny is that when I see an item pass through friendfeed that I know I've already subscribed to in google reader, I'll skip it and wait to read it in g-reader. - chrisofspades
Jason -- an effective news recommender algorithm should fit your mind like a glove: the prioritization of global trends PLUS your most intense interests, as determined by your clickstream. - Sean McBride
Can't read everything - too much stuff ;-) I have basically two categories for feeds - I read all of the majority of my feeds, but I have a dozen or so news/cool stuff feeds that just produce far too much to read it all (on those i skim the latest news occasionally and they often have a couple of hundred unread items) - immaterial
Paul's statement above makes sense but I think the spirit of the subscriber count change intentionally dilutes feed reader measurements. I've written a long-form response here: - Daniel J. Pritchett
Every blogger should read this thread re:"Think everyone sub'd to your RSS feed actually reads your blog?" - Alex Schleber
Jason -- I disagree. A newsreader should know your own "cloud tag" by using historical behavior. If that maps to top trends in Twitter great but I certainly don't follow that rule. If that was the case, I'd being reading things about #iran and #squarespace at the top which should not fit my profile unless I started to tag those trends. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I don't read all of my feeds and I don't think anyone does. I scan my feeds though, via ff. People need ways to aggregate our content, and the smartest people are using social platforms like friendfeed, instead of using RSS readers. One reason why is because filtering the noise is highly efficient with friendfeed lists, and conversation is only a click away. Plus ff is ad free and I can connect with people who have similar views. This approach is working great for me so far! - Garin Kilpatrick
Good point - LANjackal
I don't read everything, I don't have enough time :-( There are feeds that I do read completely (the whole article), some I just check the headlines to figure out which article is cool, and some I clearly don't read (my 'bulk' folder, with zillions of entries each day). - TiTi
There are some magazines you just leaf throught and others you read entirely. It's the same for my RSS feeds. I read the first ones on FF, the others on Google reader. - stanjourdan
I understand why you don't read everything because if you did there would be little to no time left for work. It might be a great idea to reply to direct communications from folks that promote FriendFeed across other Social Networks - at least sometimes. If you don't they are likely to move on to somewhere their input is valued. - Gail Gardner
apparently not only doesn't Paul read, he doesn't participate to the conversation he starts, either. There is tremendous value in reading - not just for the mind, but for the brain. Video cannot supplant that, only supplement it. Just because it's easy, it doesn't mean it's better :) - Valeria Maltoni
Ruchira S. Datta
Dr. Chris McCoy: Dear AMA, I Quit!
Dr. Chris McCoy is policy chair for the National Physicians Alliance. "Dear American Medical Association, I recently had the opportunity to read your response to the Senate Finance Committee proposal [pdf] for health care reform, and it is clear to me that I cannot remain a member in your organization. Please remove my name from your membership rolls, effective immediately." - Ruchira S. Datta
"I encourage the AMA leadership to read Atul Gawande's recent article describing how physician culture drives up the cost of health care without benefiting patient outcomes. At the heart of this problem are physicians who have a vision of themselves as money-generating profit centers rather than professionals serving the public good. The AMA represents, and encourages, this mindset with its single-focus on physician reimbursement over all other health care reform issues." - Ruchira S. Datta
"However, the most disappointing aspect of the AMA's response to the proposed health care reforms was the opposition to the public health insurance option. I simply cannot support an organization that opposes the public health insurance plan for my patients. Instead of advocating for patients, the AMA is supporting the private insurance industry, which has been a driving force in creating the dysfunctional health care system we have today." - Ruchira S. Datta
Ruchira S. Datta Cascading, a project that builds workflows on top of Hadoop
One thing to watch out for is that despite its being GPL'ed, the developer won't accept patches, i.e., you can't patch Cascading without forking it. - Ruchira S. Datta
Bret Taylor
Netbook OS Jolicloud Prepares For Launch: Exclusive Screenshots To Whet Your Appetite -
"Interestingly, you can assign your Jolicloud profile (including all the applications you use) to multiple computers, which also means you can easily power up a brand new netbook, install the OS and use it exactly the same way you’re using it on any other netbook." - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
I am really excited about OS innovation in the spirit of this project. Instant-on, low battery consumption, browser-centric. I think a bunch of companies will be working on OSes or OS-like UI layers as cloud services become dominant, and that makes me really happy after so many years of the same old slow, bloated OS nonsense. - Bret Taylor
Even Mac OS, which I like, is just way too slow. I hadn't heard about "Page's Law" until Sergey mentioned it at the I/O conference, but it is true: software gets twice as slow with every release, and hardware just masks the problem. I remember using BeOS briefly in college and being blown away with how fast and responsive it was. Imagine if that were a priority for an OS maker on current hardware :) - Bret Taylor
Isn't that light OS chrome? - Edwin Khodabakchian
I can see myself showing off my new netbook. "it runs Jolicloud, which is based on Ubuntu and Debian" hmm....maybe i'll just say it runs xp. - Mike Nencetti
Bret Taylor
Democrats in Senate Block Money to Close Guantánamo - -
"In an abrupt shift, Senate Democratic leaders said on Tuesday that they would not provide the $80 million that President Obama requested to close the detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba... While Democrats generally have been supportive of Mr. Obama’s plan to close the detention center by Jan. 22, 2010, lawmakers have not stepped forward to offer to accept detainees in their home states or districts. When the tiny town of Hardin, Mont., offered to put the terrorism suspects in the town’s empty jail, both Montana senators and its Congressional representative quickly voiced strong opposition" - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
They can't just move the prisoners to another location, lock down the facility and walk away? - Michael Forian
Bob, we can't just shoot all of our leaders! If we did that, it would be hard to find new people willing to take the job. - Gabe
@Gabe lol - minus-one
Benjamin Golub
Horray! The Second Derivative of the Unemployment Rate Improved! -
Horray! - Louis Gray
I want to know where I can buy me some unemployment default swaps. - ⓞnor
ⓞnor, who do you have in mind as your counterparty? :-) - Daniel Dulitz
Joel Webber
Drugs in Portugal: Did Decriminalization Work?
"Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine." - Joel Webber
"At the recommendation of a national commission charged with addressing Portugal's drug problem, jail time was replaced with the offer of therapy." - Joel Webber
Wow, I did not know this, and it's great. - Tudor Bosman
"Judging by every metric, decriminalization in Portugal has been a resounding success," says Glenn Greenwald, an attorney, author and fluent Portuguese speaker, who conducted the research. "It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the drug problem far better than virtually every other Western country does." - other countries take note. - Brian Sullivan
There's a bit at the end where a naysayer says something to the effect of ~"this only proves that drug use failed to *increase* under these policies". I read the report differently, but either way it takes some of the wind out of the sails of the "legalized drug use will turn us all into junkies" camp. - Joel Webber
Meant to say this earlier: Vamos na Portugal! - Joel Webber
Bret Taylor
Announcing Amazon Elastic MapReduce - http://developer.amazonwebserv...
"Using Amazon Elastic MapReduce, you can instantly provision as much or as little capacity as you like to perform data-intensive tasks for applications such as web indexing, data mining, log file analysis, machine learning, financial analysis, scientific simulation, and bioinformatics research. Amazon Elastic MapReduce lets you focus on crunching or analyzing your data without having to worry about time-consuming set-up, management or tuning of Hadoop clusters or the compute capacity upon which they sit." - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet
I'm smilin and nodding and secretly going 'huh?' although I get the principle - Phill Price
"Develop your data processing application authored in your choice of Java, Ruby, Perl, Python, PHP, R, or C++." (from - fshamsi
I'm betting the App Engine version will be worth waiting even longer for. - Christopher Galtenberg
Nice to see this principle being used more widely in the industry. Not all problems fit well into a map-reduce structure, but when they do, it's incredibly useful to be able to point a thousand machines them without a second thought. - Joel Webber
For some of those problems, like finance, bioinformatics, and n-body simulations, you get substantial benefit from using something like OpenCL/CUDA/Brook on GPUs. The GPUs are insanely faster at doing things like running Smith Waterman or HMMR compared to x86 cores. Seems like someone needs to build a map-reduce cloud service on top of NVidia Tesla servers. Hmm, didn't Google already buy PeakStream? :) - Ray Cromwell
wow, cool infrastructure with some serious scalability options - Susan Beebe
@Ray - a little off topic, but I've often thought that the vector processing capabilities in GPUs would make them a good match for doing recommenders on the client - Nick Lothian
Tom Stocky
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"Further analysis revealed that 54 percent of respondents are not getting any younger over here. Nearly 10 percent don't understand what the big holdup is. And 23 percent are not only ready, but have been ready for the past half hour, so let's go already." - Tom Stocky from Bookmarklet
This is along similar lines to Louis CK's comments: - Tom Stocky
So scientific :) nice. - Alp
Casey Muller
Dear A.I.G., I Quit! - -
Dear A.I.G., I Quit! -
"Like you, I was asked to work for an annual salary of $1, and I agreed out of a sense of duty to the company and to the public officials who have come to its aid. Having now been let down by both, I can no longer justify spending 10, 12, 14 hours a day away from my family for the benefit of those who have let me down." - Casey Muller from Bookmarklet
nice to get some actual transparency - Robin Barooah
Wow. Heck of a letter. - Roberto Bonini
Very interesting statements in this read. - Micah
awesomely written letter. good for him. - eviltom
I with I could get a payment amounting to $742,006.40, after taxes. - Gabe
@Gabe: you can donate less, people will still be thankful :) - Starepolsky smok
I wonder what he was doing with all that time at the office. - Yolanda
Yet another reason that not letting these companies go bankrupt causes so many problems: It politicizes every dollar that the company spends, subjecting it to scrutiny and congressional grandstanding. If AIG had simply gone belly-up, this guy wouldn't have made his money either, but it wouldn't have been a political nightmare. - Joel Webber
Of course, I know there are mitigating issues with bankruptcy for a lot of these firms, and its effect on the economy as a whole. But it reminds me of a great sticker I saw somewhere: "Too big to fail is too big to exist". - Joel Webber
He makes some good arguments about individual injustice, but is his position any different than the loss being suffered by employees and investors who had nothing to do with the downfall of the financial system? We're all getting the shaft, but he seems to want to believe he and his colleagues are special martyrs. Not sure I agree, even though it does suck for them. - Mike Yang
I wonder how much he donated when he was making gobs of money. Just askin'.... - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
This guy's big problem is that he was asked to stay without being paid, with the expectation that he would get that bonus. He could have been employed at a job that would have paid him a decent salary had he not been lied to about the bonus. - Gabe
More proof that there are no winners here. - Martha
I wonder if they'd cancelled the 'bonus' up front and offered him $250,000 a year, would he have quit because the salary wasn't high enough? Not saying that it should have been $250,000 - maybe it should have been more. Just pointing out that it would have been a lot more transparent and accountable, and that the bonus system is intentionally misleading. - Robin Barooah
Chris: Because, quite honestly, I'm suspicious of his motives. Would he be as generous if the pressure weren't on? Regardless, I don't buy his basic argument. He separates the fortunes of his business unit from the fortunes of the company as whole. Any company that requires a government bailout to survive shouldn't be paying bonuses to anyone. Why should I (or you) pay for that? - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
@Jason - I'm not talking about taxes. My point is that if they just said - this is what we hire these people for, and not make pretenses about $1 salary and then try to pay them under the table with a bonus, what would the outrage be about? Sure people could say they are being overpayed - which could be debated, but it wouldn't sound like a scam. - Robin Barooah
Didn't this fellow do the exact thing that got us into this situation in the first place? Here, we will value your labor at virtually nothing on the promise that after a particular period of time it will suddenly be worth a fortune!! Sounds like the bank attitude towards risky loans to me. We'll make this risky loan on this house because when they default it will be worth even MORE! This guy made a bet, that his company would be in a position in a year to pay him. - Jeff Jones
While I do not approve of a witch hunt, I have little sympathy for those who sit at the cross-roads of modern finance ('too big to fail'), levying a hefty tax on the productive output of the population to fund salaries grossly misaligned with actual individual value produced. I don't see this as any more of a gross injustice than the market position that allowed individuals such as the author to attain wealth grossly disproportionate to produced value. Everyone does indeed lose. -
@Jason - with regard to not interfering - I am inclined to agree - however that same non interference would also have to extend to not bailing them out. How much would his 'sweat equity' be worth then? - Robin Barooah
They weren't, at least until the taxpayer bailed them out. So, I ask, why should taxpayer money be used to pay off the risk this guy took? - Jeff Jones
@Chris AIG failed in the market and has been propped up by direct government intervention -- the application of free market ideals seems a tenuous tact without also wholly rejecting the bail-out and thus leaving the issue of bonuses rather moot. Perhaps a wiser financial decision given the company's position would have been the negotiation of a reasonable salary? -
So frustrating. And people laughed when I said government intervention was a bad idea. This is not an end to the cluster-eff, not in the least. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
My primary complaint is that we whine and whine about the $180m in bonuses but hardly whined a bit about the $180b. - Anthony Citrano
The $1 salary is a bit of a red herring. No, I wouldn't do it. But then I didn't make mid 7 figures the last few years. I need my salary to pay my (now ridiculously underwater) mortgage. As this guy makes abundantly clear, he's not living paycheck to paycheck. That said, I don't think the punitive tax measure makes any real sense. But I stand by the basic premise that companies being bailed out by the taxpayer should not be paying even $1 in bonuses until they've paid back what they borrowed. - Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
+1 landon - for putting what I was trying to say in a clearer fashion. @Chris - I think the point is that given the decision *not* to have AIG go bankrupt, and to instead bail it out, it would have been more appropriate to *then* simply pay these people for their services and negotiate over that. If these people built up 'sweat equity' which was destroyed through no fault of their own, a large options grant to make it worth them fixing the mess without rewarding failure might have been logical too. - Robin Barooah
I have learned many important lessons while working but none as important as this: Your salary is the only guarantee you will have in a job. Bonuses and perks should never be counted on. - EricaJoy
So again, people - you're doing it. All pissed off about the bonuses - which represent 0.1% of the taxpayer dough shelled out to AIG so far. Where was your outrage about the other 99.9%??? - Anthony Citrano
Bjorn Stromberg
I don't think we should see posts, comments, or likes from people with private feeds unless we are subscribed to them.
Moreover, the word "private" is misused and misleading the way it is now. Privacy that requires cooperation and restricted feature use by all of your subscribers is just a trap. - Antonio Piccolboni
You shouldn't be seeing posts from people with private feeds. Is your view that if someone is going to keep their own stuff private they have no right to have their comments and likes propagate to the public, or that if someone marks themselves as private, everything they do on friendfeed should be hidden to everyone they haven't approved? - Kevin Fox
if someone marks themselves as private, everything they do on friendfeed should be hidden to everyone they haven't approved, yes. - Bjorn Stromberg
Shouldn't we? :) - Sasha Kovaliov
Let's say X person has a private feed and they subscribe to me. Should I get an email saying that the person is subscribed to me? What about if they comment or like something I post. Should I be able to see that? They did it on my post. What if it's offensive? If I'm not allowed to see their stuff, how can I moderate it? - Mark Trapp
You should be able to see comments and likes on your posts and who subscribes to you, regardless. Even if they're offensive no one will see them except you (since it's your post) and who they allow to see them. - Bjorn Stromberg
Also their posts, comments and likes should not show up in search. - Bjorn Stromberg
Ken Sheppardson
If I comment or Like an item, subsequent comments and Like's should bump the item just as if I were following the author. You could also think of this as following an item rather than following a user. - Ken Sheppardson
Jeremy Zawodny
"Erik Johansson, a young talented artist from Sweden, creates remarkable images by digitally modifying photographs that he takes himself. Here's a selection of his very impressive photo manipulations." - Jeremy Zawodny
Brian Rakowski
The Teenager Audio Test - Can you hear this sound? Created by Train Horns -
I had to download the MP3 to get it to work, but I heard it. Did you? - Brian Rakowski from Bookmarklet
i found the initial shock to be the worst part of it. brian, do you have quicktime installed? the quicktime plug-in handled the file for me. - John Fu
I can hear it. I think this is more of a "have you destroyed your hearing yet" than a "are you a teenager" test. - Laurence Gonsalves
Both Jeanette and I can hear it. - Tudor Bosman
My hearing is generally very poor, and I can still hear it. Makes me doubt the validity of the test. - Felicia Yue
I can hear it, which means I'm back in my 20's. Sweet! - Tom Stocky
Yes; it's not even my highest register. (I'm 25, by the way.) I'm the youngest person in my lab, with the next youngest being 30, but I'm the only one who can hear the noises lots of the older electronic equipment make when they're using the motors, charging, etc. Fortunately my prof understands when I ask him, "Can I charge this piece of equipment in another room? It's making a noise only I can hear." - Melinda Owens
By the way, why do electronics make those noises? CRT TVs *always* make them, other kinds of electronics less often. I can tell when a CRT TV is on mute from one or two rooms away. - Melinda Owens
I'm in my 30's. The young part of me can hear it. The old part of me wants to not hear it again. - Robert Konigsberg
I can't. - Anne Bouey
I'm 33, and I heard it (if only just) - Nick Lothian
I could hear it. Really annoying sound. - Bret Taylor
Yep. I feel so young now :p - Rodfather
Anyone else not hear this? Not sure this test is for real, me and my GF both hear it and we're 26 and 31... - Louis Simoneau
I'm old. I hear that sound all the time. - Brian Johns
I heard it. Does anybody have know what frequency that was? I'm guessing it was only around 15kHz. - Gabe
I heard it (27), my partner couldn't (33). He used to be a DJ ;) - Bec Rowe @d0tski
Ok, now I'm officially old. I'm in my 40's and heard nothing. - eugenio
loud and irritating - bob
DeWitt Clinton
I resisted asking for it for this long, but I submit. Nested comments, please.
Like Reddit? Hmmm, nah. - Kol Tregaskes
I also asked for this before. - Mihai Secasiu
comment score below threshold (0 children) - David Young
Nested / threaded comments pretty please. Just tell me where to send the money. ;) - Anthony Citrano
Kol, you would need to prevent people from having nested conversations. Nested comments is only accepting what people do. As it is now you need to guess what the nesting structure is. - Antonio Piccolboni
Antonio's right: people already have splinter conversations or reply to something someone said way upthread. Threaded/nested comments only cleans up what's already happening. (Hopefully, unless users don't thread correctly or the UI to do so is confusing.) - Andrew C (✔)
I've seen this requested before, but have only seen misunderstandings a few times because of the ambiguity. I think it could get sloppy, but am not partial either way. - coldbrew
Jordi Soler
Seeing as how in most FF entries there are comments much more interesting than the initial post, wouldn't it be a good thing if we could start new posts from a single comment?If comments were threaded, maybe then the new post could have all its dependent comments/answers as comments for the new post
Starting a new entry from a comment would be like twitter, where it becomes increasingly difficult to follow a conversation because it needs to be backtracked. - Andy Bakun
Like pulling a branch off a tree to grow a new forrest. Complex and interesting possibilites. - Brad Kligerman
Well, I was thinking more about those kind of comments that are quite off-topic and seem to start a new conversation inside the same thread - Jordi Soler
I was thinking more along the lines of improvisional jazz. - Brad Kligerman
Maybe the originator of the thread could be empowered to spawn new threads from comments, and some kind of link would be left behind? - Anthony Citrano
I read FF mostly via a RSS reader and I miss all but the initial part of a conversation, unless I want to comment then I go to he web site. I would love if comments where more like first class citizens and threads popped to the top as they do in gmail whenever there is a reply. Actually I think the whole microblogging thing should behave more like email. A reply is a message of its own, with equal dignity. - Antonio Piccolboni
Eric P
When I post something to a room it ought to appear in my feed too. It seems silly that it doesn't.
. - Eric P
agreed - this has been an outstanding requested feedback for quite awhile... - mike "glemak" dunn
Agreed! - Joe Dawson
Agree. I keep looking if it was posted or not. - AJ Batac
Could do, so long as it doesn't duplicate if you post the same thing to more than 1 room. Being able to post to multiple rooms and your feed from the bookmarklet would be my preference. - Kol Tregaskes
I'm with Kol - Alexandros Georgiadis
Agree with Kol - xero
Not being able to direct a post to both a room and my feed led me to either "reshare" the post (which is obviously not very efficient) or not to use the rooms as much as the Friendfeed platform needs. - Brad Kligerman
I use friendfeed to consolidate my content creation. I can import almost anything in the world but the rest of my FF activity. Pretty silly isn't it? - Antonio Piccolboni
I like the present method. I would not like my room feeds to clutter my feed. - Wins Fern
I'm on the fence but I think you have to look at it like you would look at a club or meeting IRL. All of your friends don't want to hear you talking to your bridge club or your model airplane enthusiasts guild. That stuff stays compartmentalized. - Laura Norvig
you can send room feeds to lists thus just for you... - mike "glemak" dunn
Could either be an option when you join the room ("Show my posts to this room in my main feed") or a per-item option, i.e. you should be able to post to more than one room and/or your main feed at the same time. - Ken Sheppardson
Usually you join rooms because the people who are interested in the same thing are the only ones who are going to want to see our post. - Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Kol +1 - dgw
Room members are a targeted audience different than our subscribers. Posts can very well belong to multiple rooms and one's own feed. In the interest of efficiency and a single thread for a single topic, we should be able to target posts to multiple rooms and our feed. - Alexandros Georgiadis
You are all right, but just let me import my rooms. It's an RSS feed after all. - Antonio Piccolboni
i put rooms into my lists which seems to be a good compromise :) - mike "glemak" dunn
J Allen
I would love to be able to name feeds when I import them in Rooms so that when I filter it is easy to see what they are.
or to tag the feeds... - Roberto
Thomas Hawk
Winners of the 2008 World Press Photo of the Year contest - Telegraph -
Winners of the 2008 World Press Photo of the Year contest - Telegraph
"A picture of an armed sheriff moving through an American home after an eviction due to a mortgage foreclosure won the top prize in the World Press Photo competition Jury members said the strength of the photo by Anthony Suau for Time magazine was in its opposites - it looks like a classic war photograph, but is simply the eviction of people from a house" - Thomas Hawk from Bookmarklet
The first time I got to <3 something! - Michael Fidler
Stunning photos... excellent work! - Susan Beebe
There's some incredible pictures in here. It's an emotional roller coaster. This first one is not my favorite,even though I can see the reasoning behind their choice. It's hard to pick one, there's so many great shots:-) - Michael Fidler
American Life - imran
I love the one in the caption. I was embedded with Sheriff's dept for 2 weeks and I have so many photos like this one. Unfortunately they can't be made public. - Sean Davis
That sheriff kind of looks like he's never actually had to hold a gun before. I feel like if he had actually needed to fire that thing, he would have ended up smacking himself in the face with it. - Brian Chang
April Buchheit
Teaching kids how to write computer programs, by Marshall Brain -
Risk is not managed by being smart before you start
Don Reinertsen: "You venture types intuitively understand the process of taking small steps to generate information that alters the conditional probabilities for the next step. A lot of big companies don't; they think risk is managed by being smart before you start." (Personal communication) Don's upcoming book: - Nivi
Love Don's comment. So many people avoid tackling the risky things early (especially easy to do in a big company). But taking on hard things early (and failing fast) is precisely what gets you more information and lets you make huge leaps forward. - Michael Herf
So can I rephrase it as "Risk is managed by being dumb before you start"? Just kidding, but I would have phrased it like: "Risk is managed by taking early high risk, highly informative steps". It is an important complement to delivering value early. Another strategy is to delay high risk steps to your successor. It works in companies with many branches or term limits (wink wink). - Antonio Piccolboni
From my conversations with Don, risk is managed by maximizing the economic value of the information that you get from testing hypotheses. I think this is maximized by experiments where the probability of success and failure are both 50%. I'm still trying to understand this. - Nivi
It makes sense. If you are only 50% sure of a hypothesis (eg "Adding Feature X will increase my retention rate") then that means you have absolutely no clue which way to go on this particular issue, and are desperately in need of an experiment to figure it out. Whereas if you are 99% sure that adding feature X is a good idea, then the cost of doing an experiment to confirm may outweigh the value, particularly if the improvement in the metric you are trying to improve is marginal. - Seth Wagoner
Peter Norvig
Presidential Election 2008 FAQ -
My server logs tell me that my election FAQ page got 75,000 views. This justifies my decision to spend my time researching and writing the FAQ rather than, say, making phone calls. I remember in 2004 making some calls for Kerry, and Juliet, who was 8, wanted to know why I was doing that on a weekend rather than playing with her. I explained what I was doing and she said "Dad, I don't think anyone is going to change their mind on who to vote for just because you call them up." I told her she was very wise, but the point was mostly to remind them to vote, not to change their mind. But maybe my FAQ was more effective. - Peter Norvig from Bookmarklet
Wow, that is an incredible amount of information and analysis. - David Wilson
That is some great information. If you had been using Friendfeed prior to the election I would have actually known about that page. - Laura Norvig
Kelly Norton
I find myself wanting special treatment of the items where I'm engaged in a comment conversation. Many times I miss a reply to one of these items when it scrolls off of my front page and several days later I remember and find it in my Me feed. However, multi-day latency generally kills the thread.
David Ing
Is there a feed of responses to comments? I have a friend who commented on a comment, but I don't know how to have that surfaced or send a notification.
Emil Sit
How do I know when someone has commented on my posted item in a room? How about when someone has commented on something I've commented on?
Andrew Trinh
Would it be possible to pull in friends from other networks (like Socialthing!) without having to create an imaginary friend? This would make FriendFeed complete.
and why should be FF account be about me and not about other people ? - Peter Dawson
Peter (no last name) - I agree, this is a place to follow others, but this is also a place to make your own. I use imaginary friends as a feed reader daily ( I think the request should be more along the lines of bringing in friends privately (like imaginary friends) without having to manually add them. - Justin Korn
But isn't that how it is already? I didn't mean for my friends to be brought in and everyone else sees them. No network shares another person's friends without any action from the person themselves. It's just a way to create more discussion, more friends more chances to share something. Option to have it on or off of course. - Andrew Trinh
@Justin if you use FF as a feedreader you need to take a look a Feedly. Its like an FF that is designed for feedreading. Before them I was on the fence over a 'feedreader' or FF. Now its all Feedly for me! :) - Roger Kondrat
Importing friends from Flickr and other services is desperately needed - Kol Tregaskes
jenn schachter
Transcript of President Barack Obama's inaugural address | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Washington News -
That was quick - jenn schachter from Bookmarklet
@jenn I think they had a hold of it in advance. - Robert Konigsberg
Andy Baio
danah boyd's dissertation on social networks and the American teen -
an essential read, she interviewed and observed hundreds of teens across 16 states, tracking the rise of Myspace and Facebook in the process - Andy Baio
Emily Miller
Is there somewhere to opt out of receiving junk mail? I get so many ads that I end up throwing away and it just seems like a waste of trees... - Anne Bouey
They grow the trees for junk mail. If you didn't get the junk mail they wouldn't grow the trees. They'd turn that land into farmland ;) - Amit Patel
I use this service: I still receive some junk mail, but way less than before. - Shannon Jiménez
Thanks everyone! - Emily Miller
Piaw Na
Does globalization erode social safety nets? -
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