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"Error establishing a database connection" - Pat Hawks
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Robert Scoble published a photo on Flickr
07/02/2008
Wednesday at 12:11 pm - Link
what a nerd joke. I love it. - Greg North via twhirl
I didn't notice the joke at first... Funny. - Mike Wills
When I worked at Orbital Sciences Corporation, the short drive into our corporate office was Warp Drive, http://tinyurl.com/3phqfc - Kirk Kittell
Hehehe, that's great. - Andrei M. Marinescu
Old but clever. Apple's HQ is located at 1 Infinite Loop. - Jeff P. Henderson
hmmm and twitter address is "South Park" .. it makes me wonder :) - Naor
+1 Infinite Loop - Hao Chen
wow...*snicker* - xero
*giggle* - Lisa L. Seifert
"Don't disc 'n drive" - Gustav Holmström
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Chris Baskind posted a link
Aerial photos: Dutch tulip farms
Aerial photos: Dutch tulip farms
June 29 at 10:26 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
Like pouring out a paintbox across the Dutch countryside - Chris Baskind via Bookmarklet
These are quite beautiful. - shelisrael1
Aren't they? I looked twice to make sure they were real. So ... imagine a hot air balloon tour of Holland when the tulips are in season. - Chris Baskind
They look like textiles. That's cool. - Abby Martin
Imagine a world covered with tulip farms and salt ponds : http://www.flickr.com/search/?... - Ken Sheppardson
Good link, Ken! We need to find more ... - Chris Baskind
Is this where they grow plasticine haha??? - Joe Dawson
I've always loved tulips. I would LOVE to fly over & see something like this. I'll have to check whether anything like this can be seen on Google Earth. - Kamilah Gill
Way Cool. I'd love to see them up close. Believe it or not they used to grow bulb flowers like that in Fremont California of all places. But the fields and greenhouses are now long gone, replaced by condos and high tech office buildings.... - Jeff P. Henderson
Breathtaking! - Nicholas Kreidberg
I think the tulip is the most underrated flower. - MG Siegler
WOoOW! Tulip is one of my favourites. - Maryam Ardakani
oh my god. no way! wow. - edythe
fantastic - Greg
If I were an alien, this is where I would choose to land my spaceship. Clearly a sign of an advanced civilization. - Karim
Amazing colors - fotographic
That's really nice. - Nicholi via twhirl
That's pretty impressive stuff - things that most people would never see or dream of. Thanks for sharing. - Benjamin "Zeus" Heide via twhirl
That's amazing. - vidsaw
That's a beautiful photo. I love tulips. We visited Keukenhof when I lived in The Netherlands and it was extraordinary. - Trish Robinson
that's fantastic !! - Mahdi Ebrahimi
Very pretty. - Alex Hammer
I remember how fascinated I was as a child when we drove through tulip farms in Holland. It was amazing. - Fu_
We've got some big tullip farms around Holland, Mich, not far from here, but like that is only a town mimicing a country, those farms do not compare to this - Michael W. May via twhirl
There's a similar patch of bliss in Lompoc, California *just north of Santa Barbara. - Susan Beebe
My favorite. We put in 1K bulbs in our beds for a spring display. - Mrsth
A thousand bulbs? Wow. I hope you post pictures the next time they're in bloom. - Chris Baskind
All sorts of gorgeous - Dominik Hofmann
Wow that's really cool stuff. - Robert Occhialini
Oh wow. Thanks for sharing those. Gorgeous! - Kimberly J via NoiseRiver
Great stuff - Jeduan Cornejo
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Dave Winer posted a link
If you watch one video today, this is the one to watch
June 27 at 2:49 pm - Link
so, so funny. and so so true. - ron k jeffries
halfway through and rotflmao ... - Dan Haley
Is this from the You Suck at Photoshop guys? - Vince DeGeorge
donnie is back today, maybe the competition made him show up again - Dobromir Hadzhiev
"what email?" "you just powered off the exchange server" "just the letter a" "don't use aol" "salesforce.com was on the right testicle" - Ranjit Mathoda
That was a good use of ten minutes. I'm smiling again. - Russellreno
Ok, after watching the new YSAP - This is much much better - flavor of the week to be sure. - Vince DeGeorge
hahahahahaha - michael arrington
"you can't arrange them by penis" - michael arrington
I'm crying. The details in this were just great. I don't work in IT but I know this is what people must put you folks through... - Kamilah Gill
That's hilarious! - fbrunel
that's brilliant. and i'm about ti run out of battery power here, and I won't bookmark, adn I'll probably 4get about these guys 4eva. what a shame!!! - john conroy
You mean he rebooted the webserver without submitting a Change Request Application with work procedure and rollback steps to the Change Advisory Board for review at their next weekly meeting? ;-) - Stuart Woodward
Hilarious!! - Satya
amusing.."how many times did u reboot?" ... - Jaimini via Alert Thingy
I love the part where he deletes all his files and the guy thanks him for putting his desktop back the way it was. - Dave Winer
LOL you can't arrange Icons by Penis - Chris Saad via twhirl
He just kept shooting him in the crotch over and over and over LOL..... - Avery Tingle
this is hilarious! - Michael Stearne via twhirl
Yeah, who hasn't known this IT guy? Too darn funny. - Jim Kukral
and so absolutely true - Jeff Evans
"This is going right onto Boing Boing." Hilarious! - Adam
On the Fedora installation, why is the guy running as root? - possible248
nice - Anthony
Arggggg! - bill giltner
:)) I was getting very frustrated with FF's best of the day page, showing mostly meta-links about FF itself all the time. And then this. Once in a while, there is one single link that makes all these page loads worth it :) - Yaniv Golan
Did this win some kind of award? - Dave Winer
That made my day - Greg Goodwin
that video kills! cant wait to show the rest of the techs at work - Mark Schulz
"What's BoingBoing?" - very funny. - Maury Estabrooks
LMAO for most of the 10 min. Will fwd to several IT peeps I know...and maybe a few peeps at Twitter. Wonder if they'll think it's funny. - Cathryn Hrudicka
Excellent.... - David W
makes me want to rearrange my desktop more creatively - Pete Delucchi
This video was freakin great thanks for sharing - Michael Narciso via twhirl
that was hilarious. wow! - David Adam
Rofl that's a ton of likes! guess I gotta! - Frankie Warren
Absolutely hilarious. - Richard Totaro
LOL, really great ! That's why my website's so slow :)) - Heimana
lol. too funny - Alexander Marktl
Way too realistic. :-) - Doug Kaye
you can't arrange by penis - Tyler
excellent. thanks for the post Dave. - Kevin Doohan
STUPID WEB DUDE. he should have asked the sales guy to check if the website is up on other computers or in a different department. - Hanan Cohen
So funny, I truly have not laughed so much in such a long time. tyvm :) - David Smith
wow!! So unreal!! And I now know what happens with all the network mgmt software I develop! - Shivanand Velmurugan
"Maybe that's not what I meant." - Kawika Holbrook
The realism of this thing is just awe-inspiring. That techie behave pretty much like any techie I've ever encountered who's been asked to do a stupid task. And the sales dude is lethally real too. This is Dilbert meets The Office on steroids. Thanks for the link. - Roy Blumenthal via twhirl
A Classic - Ken
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Mike Reynolds posted a link
Golden Ray photos of amazing mass migration - Telegraph
Golden Ray photos of amazing mass migration - Telegraph
June 25 at 1:50 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
WOW is that for real? Amazing! - Shey
Well worth clicking on. Awesome! - Charlie Anzman
The wonders of nature - thanks for sharing - David W
Nature is simply amazing. Humbling. - Tsega D
That is amazing!!! - Joe Dawson
Beautiful. I love the synchronicity of nature in motion like this...such harmony... awesome. Humanity could learn volumes from this. - Susan Beebe
Breathtakingly beautiful! - Anam
Wow, really amazing!! - Sudar
Wow! I thought this was a raytracer example or something... - Yuvi
saw this on FFFFound a few weeks ago, Dolphins: [singing] So long, and thanks for all the fish - clarke
I need more coffee, I saw the first image and thought it was pasta :p - Sam Levine
I've never seen anything like this in my life -- I hope there's an Animal Planet documentary on this. Fascinating! - Shey
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ScottBourne posted an entry on TWIP
June 25 at 6:27 am - Link
I'll be shooting some this year, and I will shamelessly plug some I have taken in the past. http://www.flickr.com/search/?... - Kreg Steppe
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Evernote posted an entry on Evernote Blog
June 24 at 5:40 am - Link
Congrats Evernote team!! woo hoo! - Susan Beebe
Congratulations ! - Sanji (Jean-Daniel S.) via twhirl
Awww and I still had invites left!! - thepete
For $5 per month (or only $45/year, because we’re bad at math), you can upgrade to a premium account. Premium users have their upload quota raised to 500 megabytes of new notes per month and get a number of other goodies, including enhanced security through SSL for all data transmission (free users only get SSL for login), priority access to the recognition queues (for much faster image recognition, even during peak busy times) and premium customer support. - Jigar Mehta
Woooo hoo.. I love this 40 MB space every month!! Evernote rocks.. Free users will keep all of the features of the closed beta, including automatic synchronization between Windows, Mac, Web and mobile phone clients and advanced image search. There is no limit to the total number of notes that you can store. Free accounts can upload up to 40 megabytes of new notes into the service every month. - Jigar Mehta
Evernote is really very cool and I love the option of accessing my notes using the web interface. You guys really rock! - Sudar
excellent and welcomed news as I use Evernote more intensively for work. I love it. - Eric Sausse
congrats evernote! i´m still not sure when to bookmark and when i should use evernote, but i try to figure it out in my daily experience... - Dieter Schwarz
Congrats! You've got one of the best products most people don't know about, and I hope that it really takes off now. - Dana Franks via twhirl
Just setup Evernote on my Windows PC and Mac OSX one - cool application with potential easy aide memoire usefulness for me (my memory is going I'm sure of it..) Going to set it up on the Iphone next to complete the circle. Nice concept so far - David W
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Don MacAskill posted a link
June 23 at 12:41 pm - Link
This is brilliant! I've been waiting for a service exactly like this. - Chris Nixon
had a feeling this is what the announcement was when I noticed a SmugVault entry in the gallery drop down. Think I need to see which is cheaper to do direct S3 storage or using this. - Dave Cohen
So, anything? If I wanted to run my DMG archive off of Smug Vault, I'd be okay? - Mark Trapp
@Dave Cohen: S3 is cheaper (not much!), but you lose the integration and visual browsing interface of SmugMug. We're certainly not an S3 competitor here. If S3 works for you, awesome. :) - Don MacAskill
Awesome Don, nice one! Let's make a loud sound with this one! - Larry Kless via twhirl
@Mark Trapp: Yep, anything, including DMG or whatever. Currently it's 512MB/file max, but I'm working on making it 5GB per file. - Don MacAskill
Been waiting for something like this ever since I started shooting RAW! - Benjamin Golub
Awesome, thanks Don. This could be nifty for my design firm's off-site archive, especially if we can preview the good bulk of the files. - Mark Trapp
Argh! I just starting shooting RAW!! Must have!!! - Bwana McCall
hmmmm... store *everything*, next to *nothing*. Not sure I agree with that. Under this new service my 2TB archive would cost me $600 one time fee + $440 every single month, plus more for getting the images back. Seems like a few drobos are a better deal, no? I can't imagine paying over $5,000 a year for offsite storage. Of course this sort of service is probably not aimed at someone like me. - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas Hawk: Compared to competing photo sharing services with RAW support, and other pay-for-storage-in-the-cloud offerings, this is a very compelling price point. It's certainly not as cheap as a handful of Drobos - but then you have to do all the IT, deal with fire/earthquakes/etc. If you're cool with that, great. But many aren't. - Don MacAskill
@Thomas Hawk: There are two components for any really solid archive storage: Local, fast, always available storage and something offsite. That can be drives stored at a bank, tapes at an archival facility, or something like SmugVault. We view ourselves as the offsite component, not the replacement for the RAID at your house. - Don MacAskill
@Don, I'm just saying $600 upfront and $440 per month in my case certainly would not qualify as storing "everything for next to nothing." It would cost me more per month to store my archive than to lease a car. And my archive is only going to get bigger. - Thomas Hawk
Can I get access outwith the web interface? e.g. ftp or sync software - Chris Nixon
Already climbing the charts of rssmeme: http://www.rssmeme.com/story/1... - Benjamin Golub
I don't think storage in the cloud is yet economical for most heavy photographers. Even someone with only 500GB of images would still have to pay $110 per month which is an expensive cost. Better (and faster) to back up your images yourself on drives and give them to a friend to hold for you offsite. You can also remotely network drobos now to have one at your home, one at an offsite location and sync them for much, much, less money. - Thomas Hawk
I don't get why I'd use this over my $5/m Mozy account? - Phill Price
@Thomas Hawk: Remotely networking drobos? Makes me want to get them even more... Wish they weren't so expensive! @Phill Price: Yeah, I don't see how SmugMug's service beats the pants off of Mozy, except that I don't think Mozy has a Web-based file browser. Am I wrong about that? - Voyagerfan5761
@Thomas Hawk: We have Pros who charge $10-20K for a single wedding that generates a few GB of photos. This is very economical for money-making Pros. And we have tens of thousands of them. :) - Don MacAskill
I haven't remotely networked drobo's yet but Alex Lindesy said that he's doing this with his on the This Week in Photography (TWIP) podcast. Synching two drobos would not be cheap Voyagerfan, but certainly cheaper than paying $440 per month. I do have my archive backed up on cheap external USB drives though and offsite at my parent's house. Most of my finished JPG photos are online as well on photosharing sites which are sort of a secondary backup. - Thomas Hawk
@Voyagerfan5761 it does - and its automatic - Phill Price
@Phill Price: This offering is geared towards people for whom SmugMug is a vital part of their workflow. They've told us they want the archives stored alongside the photos, so their normal workflow is enhanced rather than disrupted. Absolutely using something like Mozy or S3 or whatever is cheaper - but for some, time and/or effort is more valuable than money. SmugMug isn't in the business of being the cheapest solution for anything we offer - we're a premium service. - Don MacAskill
The other thing I don't like about this service is that it has a built in cost increase. The more you shoot the more you store, the more you store, the more you pay ongoing. You pay *more* in the future not less, even though storage gets cheaper. I'd rather have an "all you can eat" sort of plan that controlled future price increases. Still, for the casual photographer with less than 50GB of files, this might be worth looking at. Although even 50GB is $22 a month, a far cry from "next to nothing." - Thomas Hawk
@Thomas Hawk: Actually, that's not true. As Amazon lowers their prices (which they've done twice in two years already, and I expect another one "soon"), we'll lower ours the corresponding amount. Your storage will get cheaper. - Don MacAskill
@Thomas Hawk: While I appreciate the feedback, you're not really comparing apples to apples here. Go find me a photo sharing site that accepts and stores RAW/PSD/etc for less than ours as part of their workflow. We will *definitely* not be as cheap as local storage, that's a given. The question is how we compare to other similar offerings. And in that regard, we're much cheaper and (more importantly) much better. - Don MacAskill
Bear in mind that this is an offering our customers have been *begging* for at a price point *lower* than they said they'd pay. My customers are likely very different from you - but that doesn't mean it's not a valid, useful, game-changing offering. - Don MacAskill
@Don, I might not be comparing apples to apples, but I'd still never pay $440 a month for a service like this. The "store everything for next to nothing," was the part I thought was a bit misleading. The service is actually quite a bit more expensive than someone simply copying their files to an external drive and giving it to a friend to hold offsite for them, without reoccuring monthly fees. - Thomas Hawk
saying the Oakland Mercedes Benz dealer is cheaper than the Beverly Hills Mercedes Benz dealer doesn't mean that you still can't find a cheaper car somewhere else -- or take the bus or bike for that matter. You get to the same place no matter if you drive a Mercedes, a Prius, take BART or bike. Some ways just cost more than others. - Thomas Hawk
I am a pro photographer. I shoot less than ThomasHawk but have my fair share of events. I would like to just see a storage through online means regardless of file type such as Xdrive. But at larger increments such as 1GB at a time not 1MB. Any thoughts Don? - Photo Larry via twhirl
"next to nothing" refers to some of our (to remain unnamed) competitors. And it jives with what our paying customers have told us they'd pay for this service. We could have gouged them and charged the $1/GB or whatever they said they'd pay (or that they pay elsewhere now) - but we chose not to. Apologies if it doesn't fit your world view. :) - Don MacAskill
Yes, but the Oakland Benz dealer will sell you the same Benz that Beverly Hills will. A Drobo and SmugVault aren't even remotely the same. So again, you're comparing apples to apples in your analogy, but not the actual product comparison. It's fine, I get it - you won't use it. But that doesn't mean it's not a good product. - Don MacAskill
@Photo Larry: You can store 1MB, 1GB, 1PB with this. Whatever you want. So you're not limited to 1MB. If I somehow gave that impression, I apologize. SmugVault is unlimited and pay-by-the-drink. Only pay for what you use - no commitments. - Don MacAskill
Don, I'm an edge case. I'm sure this offering is just right for many of your customers. Some people like to drive Mercedes and don't mind paying -- it's a huge market. I just like to take the BART, that way it costs less and I can process photos to and from work. :) - Thomas Hawk
This may be the clincher for me. I've been thinking about using SmugMug for a while. They already allow users to sell photos -- which is something I've wanted from other photo sharing sites for a while -- they offer good prints as well, and now they have this. Very nice. - Raoul Pop
@Thomas Hawk: Everything we do at SmugMug is more BMW than Toyota, let alone BART, that's for sure. :) - Don MacAskill
Having read the blog post, I can see the potential of it. Never mind the price, which is way too high for my taste at the moment (and Thomas is right to criticize your headline). But prices will come down. I like the concept of having a photo library somewhere up in the cloud that contains all master files "behind" the one final image on display. With a good UI and a Photoshop plugin that allowed direct editing from and saving to the cloud, this could completely replace apps like Lightroom in the future. - Ole Begemann
Don: Wow. I like this thread esp. for the comments. I withdraw my request for a smugmug invite. That is a pretty elitist view of things. I will just wait until I fill my free off-site storage and then pay an "economy" photo hosting service. - Mathew A. Koeneker
This just hit TechMeme http://tinyurl.com/6sxlsp Hey Gabe Rivera - how about including this thread on TechMeme? - Mike Doeff
mike it hit because i linked to don :) - Allen Stern
Brilliant! I love betting on the right horse. You go Smugmug! - Leo Laporte
It would be awesome if Techmeme could include FF conversations! Seems like a natural fit, but the problem would be how could Techmeme know *which* of the conversations to append to the article. Sometimes the biggest conversation around an item will happen in the oddest place. Hard for Techmeme to know which is *officially* the related or best conversation. - Thomas Hawk
I'm assuming you have to have a SmugMug account to use this in the first place? For someone like me with about 10GB of archives, the price would be good, but having to pay to join another photo site just for backup would deter me. - Matt
Allen, Gabe recently mentioned that he was starting to look at FriendFeed as another source for discussion (see http://snurl.com/2nnk6 - Gabe's last comment). I think this is a case where it would make sense for Gabe's algorithm to include this in the discussion. - Mike Doeff
@Thomas - here's one approach to your question about how Techmeme would "know" which conversations were best: http://bhc3.wordpress.com/2008... - Hutch Carpenter
@Mathew A. Koeneker: SmugMug invite? We don't require invites. We've been in production for more than 5 years - no invites required. Just a credit card. :) I'm not sure how I (we?) are being elitist, though - we're offering something both better and cheaper than anyone else. How is that elitist? Am I missing something? - Don MacAskill
@Matt: You do need a SmugMug account, yes. They start at $40/year (unlimited JPEG/GIF/PNG storage), or roughly a latte a month. :) - Don MacAskill
Is anyone else not surprised that Thomas Hawk is trying to crap on a thread about a competitor's product? A quick browse on his blog shows crapping on competition all over the place, while his own pet project flounders in obscurity. - Jim
Hutch, great blog post, interesting method -- using activity by authoritative FF folk to determine which post to link right? Would love to see FF conversations on Techmeme as they definitely provide valuable commentary on the story. - Thomas Hawk
@Don, I sent a Tweet about this about two hours ago but never got a chance to get back gere until now. Looks like a lot great discussion has been going on. - Larry Kless via twhirl
Jim, I don't view SmugMug as a competing product *at all.* I doubt Don does either, but maybe I'm wrong. Two very different markets and services. I actually like SmugMug as an service alot, and especially the people that work there, their high service and community engagement. I just wouldn't pay $440 a month for something like this. I call it like I see it. BART is not a competitor to BMW, even though both get you where you want to go. - Thomas Hawk
@ Don: I was being a tad ironic as well as perhaps I misunderstood the post "@Thomas Hawk: Everything we do at SmugMug is more BMW than Toyota, let alone BART, that's for sure. :) - Don MacAskill" I like being frugal and wish that we had better public transportation in StL. I am OK if that is your target demographic (ie. BMW) but it seemed like a slam on those that are not. - Mathew A. Koeneker
@Thomas - and yet you keep arguing a red herring. There is a huge difference between local storage and off-site storage. In order to replicate the security of storage in the clouds, you have to set up multiple synced off-site storage locations. There is a reason that lot of top photographers store their photos in banks and other secure vaults. - Jim
@Thomas - that's right. Techmeme has a heavy bias for those who have been on Techmeme previously. Leverage that to identify conversational hot points. - Hutch Carpenter
@Thomas - a perfect example is world famous photographer Jacques Lowe who stored 40,000 negatives of the Kennedy family in the safest location he could find. He stored them in a bank vault, and 11 years later they were all completely destroyed when 2 planes hit the World Trade Center, right next door. Off-site + redundancy is extremely important to a lot of photographers. - Jim
Jim, I'm not arguing a red herring at all. $440 per month to store my archive is *not* "next to nothing." It's a perfectly valid point to make in light of the headline of the post. The fact that I can archive cheaper other ways is another point entirely -- but worth mentioning given that people might be looking for other cheaper alternatives. Maybe $440 per month is "next to nothing" for a rich guy like you, but it's not for me. Do you work for SmugMug? - Thomas Hawk
@Mathew A. Koeneker: Oh, no, that wasn't a slam at all. I have a BMW, but I love BART too. But when we chose to build a business, we intentionally chose the premium space. Not only am I more interested in it, but the free / freemium / economy space is crowded and a rough business to be in. I built this business with an awful lot of sweat - I didn't want to get into a brawl with companies like Yahoo and Kodak, too. - Don MacAskill
@Thomas - sorry, I was referring the ongoing Drobo discussion. Sticking right to the cost, I guess it is a matter of perspective. You are a prolific shooter, and have a sizable collection, so it will indeed cost you more. The question is how much the absolute security of those files are to you. It varies dramatically from photographer to photographer. For hobbyists with a big collection, I suppose the price would be a bigger deal. (continued, sorry... got too wordy) - Jim
@Thomas - but imagine you are make your living from your photos, and you can virtually guarantee the safety of your life's work for $440 a month. I am definitely a hobbyist, but there are definitely some files I want to make 100% sure I never lose. So I am probably somewhere in between, and part of my library will find its way online. - Jim
@Jim, $440 a month is *alot* of money Pal. Certainly not "next to nothing." You could by three drobos. Stick one at your mom's house in Florida and give another to your friend in Germany and network them all together -- and this would still be cheaper than buying this service, at least for me. I'm not sure the incremental "safety" of cloud storage over multiple location backups is worth it to me. - Thomas Hawk
and you still haven't answered the question whether or not you work for SmugMug. You have a private FF account and are only known as "Jim." As far as I'm concerned you may as well be an anonymous shill. - Thomas Hawk
Nice idea, but I'm not sold on the idea of cloud storage. Having multiple physical backups in different locations is very cost effective these days, and in the event of a catastrophic failure, restoring from the cloud is a time-consuming prospect. If you have enough data, shipping one of your other backups would be cheaper -- and faster -- than restoring TB's of data from the cloud. - Jeremy Brooks
is it insured? - Noah David Simon
I might as well be an anonymous shill, I am not a blogging/social sort of person. I registered just to post in this thread because your attitude bugs me. I used to subscribe to your blog because I love your photography, but got sick of your ranting and raving about everything. Unfortunately, I have now contributed to the crapfest this thread is... I'm out. - Jim
I think the main thing going for a service like this is the simplicity of it, which may be worth the cost for some people. - Jeremy Brooks
By the way, I'm not saying that this is a *bad* service. I'm sure that there are many customers at SmugMug who want this and at this price point. Otherwise they wouldn't be offering it. And I'm sure it's a good business for SmugMug as they probably make a differential between what they pay Amazon and what they charge their customers. Win-Win. I'm just saying it's not right for me is all. - Thomas Hawk
I'm with Thomas here. All he took exception to was the headline "for next to nothing" and he's right on that. - Ole Begemann
So Jim, you are posting here anonymously and only signed up for FF to post to *this specific* conversation about SmugMug, and yet you've been asked three times whether or not you work for SmugMug and you avoid answering the question every time. Okie dokie Pal, gotcha loud and clear. I'm sorry if my saying $440 per month doesn't sound like "next to nothing" to me hurts your feelings. - Thomas Hawk
okay, I lied... I didn't quite leave yet. :( I am not from SmugMug. I just don't want to get into personal details, I am a private person. really out now, just didn't want to leave that hanging. - Jim
...and this is pretty much what I was afraid would happen to FriendFeed eventually. I was just hoping for a bit more time. @Don, good luck on the launch. I always love to see other small businesses succeed, so I hope you guys make a bajillion dollars. - Jake
@Thomas, for the record, Don is subscribed to the feeds of all SmugMug employees that have FF accounts. - David Parry
Personally, i travel like crazy for work. So having a drobo at home would be like cloud storage, but slower. I just wish this wasn't announced 2 days after i bought the program jungledisk for direct amazon storage. - InsaneNinja
Wow, I go get some lunch and the thread devolves into trolling. Can has moderation? Let's get back to talking about the product, mmkay? - Don MacAskill
@Don, Say you run Lightroom, and convert to DNG on import. You do your little changes to the DNG, which saves them as internal data. And then you upload the DNG file to SmugMug. ....Does SM show the resulting file in multiple sizes? Or should you also upload an LR-exported jpg for results/quality? I'm asking if you can skip the jpg step entirely. - InsaneNinja
@InsaneNinja: You cannot skip the JPEG step entirely if you want to see all your edits, no. We just generate non-edited proofs. I'm hopeful that someday we can offer something even better, but for now, export both the JPEG and the DNG. - Don MacAskill
And I envision a Lightroom like interface to the vault so you can browse and search the vault like you would your local albums, select the photo(s) you want to work on and put your work back when you're done, somewhere safe. Which I'm giddy about to build, you know, when they invent 30hr days.... Also, for me this is going to be for the images that are very valuable to me either emotionally or monitarily, not everything, which solves the 'where will my important photos be in 15 years' problem. - Sam
@Don: That makes sound business sense on a lot of levels. )BTW, I think that this is the first time I saw what would appear to be troll induced flickers of flame.) - Mathew A. Koeneker
I wouldnt say its trolling on the program, as much as it is Thomas having a problem specifically with the slogan "everything for nothing," due to his immense collection. As for me personally, i've created 30 gigs this month and i consider it slacking. - InsaneNinja
Well, if nothing else this string has forced me to think more seriously about improving my current backup solution of copying to an external hard drive. - Matt
Oh, I wasn't referring to Thomas. ;) - Mathew A. Koeneker
Two questions: One, how on earth is uploading my entire archive going to happen ( I've got 50+ GB and rising fast- my upload speed is terrible even with broadband in the UK - talk about progress and being a First World Country) and Two is there API support for this??? - Roberto Bonini
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I was so shocked to find out this morning that he passed away. R.I.P. George Carlin. - Michael Forian
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Good work at Google, Chris. Looking forward to the next round of news. - Louis Gray
Any chance you're going to be working at FriendFeed? - Scott Cropper
congrats...let's def. stay in touch... - don loeb
Oh dang it! Did I make that terrible of an impression on you yesterday? - Erica Baker
Congrats! - Ginger Makela
Good luck on whatever your next endeavor turns out to be, Chris. - Joel Gray
Do anything you can to be involved with what CW does next. The guy is money. - Sacca
enjoy your blank slate. :) - Chris Hollander
Good luck and thanks for everything: http://blog.rssmeme.com/2008/0... - Benjamin Golub
Happy Graduation, Chris! - Kevin Fox
Best of luck! - Mike Reynolds
Congratulations! - Ruchira S. Datta
Good luck! - Tudor Bosman
I love Google Reader, thanks for such an amazing product! - Paul Wade
i love Google Reader too! good luck! - Philip J Beyer
Congrats and thanks for the fantastic app! - J. Phil
Amazing. Obviously the best first round of Google employees (gmail, reader) are moving on. It will be interesting to see how the company adapts / evolves. - Brandon Werner
am a fan of reader..thanks for all the work.. - Jaimini via Alert Thingy
Really bummed to see you go Chris, but congrats. - Mike Yang
Good luck and thanks for your work in making GReader so awesome. - Dana Franks via twhirl
Thanks for your work on GReader. It's an essential part of my daily workflow. Good luck! - Chris Baskind
Without Google Reader, I would be so much more productive. And also more boring and less knowledgeable since I'd read fewer feeds. Thanks for all the hard work and good luck for the future! - Tony Ruscoe
Wow, thanks a lot for your great work on Reader. It's really changed a lot of peoples' lives (including mine). - Jake
Definitely thanks for your work. It changed my life so much that I decided to build one. - Elias Torres
I wonder what Googlers realy mean when they congratulate other Googlers when they announce their plans to leave.... - Bindu Reddy
Bye Chris...THANK YOU... gReader is my friend and you made that possible :-) - Susan Beebe
@Bindu I suspect its "Take me with you!" ;) j/k - Erica Baker
Google Reader -- one of my top 5 favorite programs of all time. - Sean McBride
gReader gRocks - Geoff Longman
Good luck with your future plans Chris. Your talents will be missed. - Dylan Parker
Chris, congrats on all the excellent work and good luck in your next adventure. - Jeremy Zawodny
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