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Farming in the Sky

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Really neat article. Hope it happens - Peter Kahle

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A Sound Reference to the IPA: active, sound-enabled version of the International Phonetic Alphabet

August 26 at 3:40 am - Link

Yet another IPA Chart with sound. This one doesn't seem to work from Work. - Peter Kahle

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Paul Meier Dialect Services - IPA charts - dialects - dialect books - phonetics - IPA - phonetics - vowels

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Same IPA charts, different site. - Peter Kahle

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IPA Charts

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Flash charts for full IPA, with sound and description of how it's made (what Dental or Alveolar mean) - Peter Kahle

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Rituals2008

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Ritual Dynamics and the Science of Ritual - Peter Kahle

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A Tall Ship sails past the Burbo Bank windfarm on the approach to the Port of Liverpool in England. One hundred vesselsracing festival

August 15 at 5:55 am - Link

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That is an amazing photo! Reminds me of some futuristic SciFi movies.. - LonelyBob

oh, yeah... granted what I've read on "peak oil" and similar topics, this looks like rather-less-distant future reality ;) - silpol

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Камчатка (1134×440) [Korzik.net]

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~20 photos of Kamchatka at http://korzik.net/2007/07/10/k... Warning: some of the small ads on the side at NSFW. - Mitchell Tsai via Bookmarklet

Reposted by ebitary at Pixdaus http://pixdaus.com/single.php?... - Mitchell Tsai

Very nice... love the cloud formation - Anthony K Valley via twhirl

this reminds me of the Paramount Pictures logo... - edythe

Powerful. - Charles Frith

I always wondered how people can use word "pixdaus" (granted they know how to translate word Камчатка into Kamchatka) and same time consider small pics on side as NSFW :) - silpol

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RSGallery2 - The Gallery Solution for Joomla! - Home

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great looking joomla image gallery - Peter Kahle

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ThinkGeek :: Leather 250GB Hip Flask USB Drive

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"If we had to choose between hard liquor and hard drive storage space it would be a tough call. Luckily we can look like career alcoholics while storing up to 250GB of data with the Leather 250GB Hip Flask USB Drive. This portable drive looks just like a pocket size flask and is wrapped with buttery 100% real leather. Connect it to your computer using USB 2.0 for transfer rates of up to 480 Mbits per second, no external power supply is needed. Built in Drop Guard protection protects your data after a night on the town with the boys." - RAPatton via Bookmarklet

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yet, there is no image of guy's hip to hide that flask, instead he put it into pocket -- apparently for lack of fine underwear ;) - silpol

Too bad the iomega design ruins the idea. - Raoul Pop

Absolutely hilarious - Nicholas Kreidberg

Cool! - Mitchell Tsai

If you don't want to pay the ThinkGeek premium, you can get it on Amazon for 20 dollars less: http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ... - Mark Trapp

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Generative models and programming talent

July 24 at 4:49 am - Link

Fascinating article about what it is that makes one a good programmer, from Eric Raymond. I've often wondered on the topic myself, as I find there are things in programming that come easily to me that other programmers seem to have trouble grasping. I don't think this is the whole picture, but I look forward to ESR continuing the discussion. - Peter Kahle

Brian Pharris posted a message

“So now that the government's in the business of sending my hard-earned money to people and corporations who acted irresponsibly during the housing boom, where's my thank-you card for being responsible and renting so that I still have money to send them?”

July 13 at 9:49 pm - Link

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I believe that is in the mail, along with your stimulus check. I'm still waiting for mine. (And in other news, were you sitting around and wondering if I would notice you're starting to use FriendFeed?) - Louis Gray

I wish I could like this comment about 37 times. I waited too, saved and am now waiting for the right home to buy. I did the right thing and was responsible. Why do others get a freaking mulligan on their irresponsibility? Do we get money back when our stock picks go south? - AJ Kohn

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Not to start a political war here, but isn't it intriguing that one of the candidates for president was part of the big S&L crisis in 1989? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K... - Louis Gray

*like* LG's comment. Very interesting, something I'd forgotten. - Rick Powell

What Brian and AJ said. Especially AJ. - Anthony Citrano

Do things like that happen in the US? - dude who doesn't understand economics - Yuvi

I bought, responsibly, and I'm expected to pay for the folks who didn't. - Erisson

@Yuvi - not just in the US;last year, the UK govt used taxpayers' money to bail out a Bank that found itself in trouble after riding the sub-prime wave - Andrew Terry

What would government be without corporate welfare and entitlement-mentality generation? Come on folks, where's your compassion? - phil baumann

This is not an issue of "corporate welfare". I don;t supprot the bail outs - but let's be real about who is being bailed out. The issue is not the lending banks and corporations but the millions of families that would become homeless without this happening. I am willing to let it happen but I understand why others are not. There is also a compelling economic and social case to be made for not letting it happen. - Soulhuntre

Besides, the tax system has ALWAYS been about taking money from people that actually make it and distributing it to others. This nightmare is not at all new. In recent years the top 1% of tax filers pay more than 40% of the tax burden - all while people scream to tax them at a higher rate in the name of fairness. http://www.powerlineblog.com/a... - Soulhuntre

The bail-outs *are* corporate welfare, distributing public funds to big institutions and therefore to those who control them. Those institutions always seem to be "too big to fail" and we have to bail them out lest the stock market panic. The corporate controllers are happy to take big personal profits when things are going well (and even when they aren't) claiming that they are taking big risks. But should the downside of those risks obtain suddenly it's time for all to share in the costs. Sweet deal. - Fred Yankowski

@Fred -- exactly. The classic case of privatize profit, socialize risk. @Soulhuntre -- I'm all for helping people who need it, I'm pretty happy to pay more taxes than people that make less since the working-class American needs all the help they can get these days. I just wish that those at the top of the Countrywide/Bear Stearns/Indymac/Freddie/Fannie etc disasters had to give back some of their fat bonuses from the last few years - Brian Pharris

Well Brian I am not for helping out the middle class and upper middle class Americans who borrowed money to buy worthless shitheap suburban houses. And to Fred's "too big to fail" comment - the FDIC is going to be the next "too big to fail" institution the Federal Reserve will bail out... well my question is: is the Fed too big to fail? And who's going to bail out the Fed Reserve? - Anthony Citrano

Basically I say: deal with the consequences of the risks you took, whether you're a Bear Stearns hedge funder or a middle manager at a car company. - Anthony Citrano

Fair enough, though I can take some solace in the fact that those suburban McMansions are now illiquid and gas prices have got to make that middle manager's commute incredibly painful. As for bailing out the Fed (which has already blown a lot of its treasurys in exchange for toxic MBS crap), either China and OPEC need to be feeling extremely generous, or I'd suggest high-tailing it out of the US Dollar. - Brian Pharris

@Brian: exactly. - Anthony Citrano

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Qigong und Tai Chi Chuan am KiDojo in Heidelberg

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Qigong und Tai Chi Chuan am KiDojo, Heidelberg. Regelmaessige Kurse für Privatpersonen. Kursangebote für Unternehmen. Wir ueben mit Ihnen die Kunst des bewussten Loslassens. - Peter Kahle

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Stadt Heidelberg, Heidelberg Tai Chi Zentrum ,Tai Chi, Qigong, Entspannung,Chi, Energie,Kurse, Meditation, Taijiquan,Qigong - Peter Kahle

Art Lindsey III posted a message on Twitter

“@Scobleizer: That depends on what you mean by hardened. Most of the true GOP base, like me, aren't happy at all. We don't Like McCain.”

June 24 at 11:13 pm - Link

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Well, the Repubs I met are ready for a new administration. The old one just is totally calcified and is hard to get anything done. The Dems? Are salivating. Listen to @timryan's interview yesterday that I did with him. - Robert Scoble

@scobleizer I'm in that cat., too. libertarian/conservative disgusted with the lefts, rights and middles. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

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Mark: you should listen to my interview with Culberson yesterday. At one point I looked him in the eye and asked him "is there really room in the Republican party for someone like you anymore?" (He has voted no against a ton of Bush proposals and says he's a Jeffersonian Republican). He really was a thrilling guy for me to meet. If all Republicans were like him and they kicked out the religious folks I'd switch back to being a Republican in a heartbeat. - Robert Scoble

So did you like ROn Paul? - Jim Stewart

Jim: No. He was simply too weird and wanted to push too much change too quickly. His ideas might have been based on sound principles, but guys like him just turn me off and scare me. Too much social change too quickly is actually a horribly nasty thing. - Robert Scoble

@Robert: I'll definitely check it out. @Jim: I've met Ron Paul several times, and I like him as a person and a congressman. As a presidential candidate, he blows. He really either doesn't seem to understand how to win a primary and switch it up for the general, or doesn't care. If he was serious about winning the nomination, he could have (he's that smart). He just self-destructed, and it pisses me off to no end. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

that -you- did? ;-) - Andrew Feinberg

@Robert: Those "religious" folk you want to see removed? They (We) are the heart and soul of the GOP. The very moral compass that makes up the movement. Kick out the religious folks? Do You understand that America is a nation founded on religious freedom, and a Christian country at that? You're pining to see a swatch torn from the very fabric of America. You haven't a clue what you are saying. - Art Lindsey III

Art: I know this is very deep in our fabric. I was a conservative evangelical Christian for more than a decade. But that's probably why I am so turned off on seeing that side of our world running things. Keep your religion where it belongs: in your church. Our founding fathers knew the corrosive effects of when religion mixes into our public policy. Note your words: "religious freedom." So, when a single party wants to cram their religious beliefs down my throat, you should expect some pushback! - Robert Scoble

Art is right. In terms of the Republican party, they make up the largest base constituency. Without them, there wouldn't be much of a party - or at least not enough to get elected. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

@Art Lindsey III - "a nation founded on religious freedom, and a Christian country at that" That sounds a bit strange. Religious freedom, but only for Christians? - sebmos

Sometimes I wonder whether people even understand what the word "freedom" really means. It means I'm free to do what I want. Including pick a religion (or no religion at all) that is different from yours. Yet many religious folks want to push their beliefs on me. That translates into horrible legislation against stem cell research, for instance. My wife moved here from Iran for a reason: religious persecution. So don't lecture me on freedom. I'm very clear on the concept. - Robert Scoble

Mark: yeah, I understand that Republicans rely on the religion machine that exists in this country. I saw it up front and center (I used to run a TV camera at our church and we'd have lots of political types come through to talk with our congregation). It's just a real corrosive thing that I'll fight the rest of my life. Republicans have turned off a lot of voters who used to support them because of their fiscally conservative approach. Reagan proved there's a lot of voters like that out there. - Robert Scoble

oh man robert I'm so glad that didn't come up w/ Coburn today :-) - Andrew Feinberg

Andrew: I wasn't there to push my own personal anti-religion agenda. There's a proper place for everything. I was there to represent the tech industry and see if we could get an interesting conversation started that would get other bloggers in the door. If I got into an argument with a Congressman about his beliefs I sure wouldn't have served those interests well. But here on FriendFeed? You betcha! - Robert Scoble

Religion and Politics, that was in the middle age...Wake Up America..plz! - Ben Borges

Well, if you understand your wife, (which I get, and I admire her for escaping) how come you're so off-put by christians? Has one chopped off a relative's head lately or fed one of your children to to you? It seems like you're trying to make a comparison to me between strict Islam and christianity. More than that though, it seems to be that your idea of "religious freedom" is the complete absence of any religion at all. - Art Lindsey III

@sebmos: Nice Job at twisting that one. - Art Lindsey III

@Robert: Unfortunately, the years since Reagan have destroyed the ability for that coalition to exist without serious PR work being done (though now is as good a time as any to get started). Ken Starr, President Clinton, Karl Rove, President GW Bush (not to mention all their political foils) have only served to galvanize the parties. It's going to be hard to convince anyone in party leadership now's the time to appeal to different bases. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

I'm off put by any religious types who get power and try to use their religion against my choices. I'm no longer a Christian. Yet many of the policies that you and your friends push on Congress force me to follow your policies. From the money we print "In God we Trust." Um, no, no, I don't. That's not "freedom" to choose. It's forced religion. I'm tired of it and will vote against it. - Robert Scoble

Mark: you're probably right. It'll be interesting to see what a new President will bring. McCain used to resist the religious right, but now is back in line because he realizes that that's the only way he'll get elected. Even so, I have to believe that if he gets in he'll pop back to his old self and keep things much more sane than they have been. See @tomryan's interview yesterday to hear some of the frustrations that people have with the Bush leadership. - Robert Scoble

How did I twist that? It's exactly your words, and it's a problem of the religious right everywhere (not only in the US). Religious freedom - yay, but only as long as you're Christian. And don't dare being Atheist or worse, Muslim. - sebmos

sebmos: exactly. But don't blame Art. When I was a church goer I totally bought into this system and thought the same way. Religion is such a strong business and belief system that they don't even see that they are taking away other people's religious freedoms by legislating their belief system in. In fact, they actually feel better if they get their way because they think that a "Godly" nation must do certain things in a certain way. - Robert Scoble

@Robert: "In God we trust" is not forced religion, Robert. The important thing to remember is that God is NOT religion. God is *FAITH*. You need to understand the differences between the two. - Art Lindsey III

@sebmos: You're twisting Art's words describing our country's historical roots to mean that he's restricting freedom of religious choice. There isn't any subtext to what he's saying. Re-read his comment literally and tell me you come away with the same conclusion. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

Art: um, so, now you point out that I don't have "freedom of Faith." Got it. I think that's a pretty nuanced point. For most people religion and faith are intertwined. Certainly they are for all the religious types I used to hang out with. - Robert Scoble

@Robert: agnostic and atheist philosophers and scientists like to talk about how ethics and morals are far removed from religion in their origins, but recorded human history isn't that old that you can't trace back modern legal precedent to it's Judeo-Christian origins. In that, we are a Christian nation - that was the basis of the theories of our foundation. Were those theories perfect? No, but they are there. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

@sebmos: No. thats not what I said. What I was driving at was that Robert has intimated he has a problem with Christians and that the Republican Party would be better without them, and he would go back if they went away. He doesn't care where they go as long as they are gone from his presence. That is persecution. Furthermore, I mentioned the fact that America being founded by christians to illustrate the fact that this country and its laws are based on judeo-christian values. it is a fact - Art Lindsey III

@sebmos: it had nothing to do with preference of one faith over another. - Art Lindsey III

Mark: I'm tired of being defined by history. We don't practice slavery anymore, even though many of our Founding Fathers used to believe in that, too. At some point we've gotta break with the past and realize there's a better way to live our lives. - Robert Scoble

And just generally, I'd like to also state that Christians (nor any religion found in America) aren't hive-minded. Much of the time, the beltway (when they work to appease the "moral majority") ascribe to us beliefs that they think we'll like, and we get branded with that ideal. You can't blame religion for political pandering. I prefer to blame the panderers. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

>>the Republican Party would be better without them, and he would go back if they went away. ANSWER: No, you misrepresent my position. I don't care what you do in your church or what political party you're a part of. As long as you keep your religion in your church and away from our laws and public discourse. I believe in a strong separation of church and state and will vote against anyone who tries to bring their church into politics. I'll probably lose, cause many people like their religion and ... - Robert Scoble

I just finished Huffington's new book that addresses this directly. So you probably don't want me jumping into this convo right now and I shall go to sleep. Although Mark and I haven't mixed it up in awhile...lol - Erin Kotecki Vest

@Robert: I realize you have a strong position, and I'm not trying to convert you. As strongly as you believe that politicians should be heavily involved with the evo of tech and Web 2.0, you must realize that strongly <insert religious affiliation here> folks have that fervent passion x100. You can separate religion from politics only to a point. When it comes to having an ethical and legal system represent a population's morals, you have to have some crossover. Otherwise it ceases representing the public - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

...politics joined, but I've seen the corrosive effects that letting religious thought control our legal system has on everything. Our lack of investment in science is an awesome example of this. I'm probably more adverse to it than most people, because of where my wife came from and where my family came from (my mom grew up in Nazi Germany where her family wasn't free to worship who they wanted). - Robert Scoble

>>you must realize that strongly <insert religious affiliation here> folks have that fervent passion x100. ANSWER: Oh, I do realize that. In fact, this is why people who are in a minority position must even be stronger in speaking out against a majority position. Very few in our society believes the way that I do. But we MUST keep the majority from tyrannizing the rest. - Robert Scoble

>>Otherwise it ceases representing the public. ANSWER: Our founding fathers moved here to escape religious persecution (and a few other issues, but let's just stick on the religion here). They saw the corrosive effects that came about when a majority of people who believed one way were allowed to beat up the minority who believed a different way. Luckily our system isn't a strict democracy and was built to try to stick up for the little guy. This system is why California now has gay marriages. - Robert Scoble

At some point, Robert, we ought to have a call or discussion or video on this. I love having reasoned discussions on this topic, and you have some interesting perspectives, it sounds like. I'm fading fast, though, and I'm going to have to close my eyes for a few hours. - Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins

I think the change in the religious aspect of the GOP from Reagan to today is that it's changed from being a small government effort (let the social issues be decided at the state or local level) to a large government effort (let's legislate the social issues at the federal level). As best I can tell, it's a problem of being too successful, so expanding. And leaving the rest of us Republican/libertarian types behind. - Peter Kahle

@Robert: No, Robert. You are wrong again. Democracy was not built to stick up for the little guy. Democracy is so that all have opportunity, and in event of disputes, that those in the right may prevail. When asked if he would "stick up for the little guy" John Roberts said (Paraphrase) "It is not my job to stick up for the little guy. I am to interpret the constitution and decide who is right" (Roberts was overwhelmingly confirmed as Chief Justice of the United States.) - Art Lindsey III

Art: our system of government is NOT a democracy. It's a republic. And, anyway, our system has checks and balances which, in effect, does protect the little guy from being overrun by the masses. Mark: I'm fading too, it'd be fun to do, though. Peter: Right. - Robert Scoble

Mark: there are several problems with talking about these issues: 1. They polarize people. 2. Most people don't care. 3. Those who do care aren't there to listen, just try to get their points across. 4. Sponsors can have problems with political views (luckily Seagate is awesome there, but others might balk). So, I probably won't talk about them too much beyond this FriendFeed thread, which will soon disappear from most people's view. Anyway, I'm off to bed. - Robert Scoble

@Robert: Okay Robert, now you're just being a tool. I know this is a republic. You mentioned the word democracy, and I was using it in the same context you were, and now you're pulling this garbage because I've beaten you soundly at every turn. Your attempt to change context midstream is pathetic. And again, regardless of the word you choose, we were not built to coddle a certain social class. We were built so ALL have the right to work and achieve. Stop, for your own sake. You are embarrassing yourself. - Art Lindsey III

Art: I think you're misreading where Robert brought up democracy. He's saying it was set up as a republic, rather than a democracy so that it would 'stick up for the little guy.' Go re-read what he wrote. - Peter Kahle

Our government form is a Republic. Our government is a representational (or representative) democracy. It is not a direct democracy using referendums for each proposition put forward. But yes, it is a form of democracy. The constitution clearly defines it as such and the pledge of allegiance affirms our status as a republic. - Steve P

Interesting convo, but the thread about the religious freedom foundations of the US needs context. Only one colony, maybe two if you include Pennsylvania as a home for Quakers, was founded on a basis of religious "freedom"--Massachusetts, and that was only based on freedom FOR Puritans. Virginia, the Carolinas, etc. were founded to make money. The religious freedom of the US originated from the religious diversity (mostly Christian sects, but also including a fair number of Jews) of the society. - steplow is Steve

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Power Line: Doing Something Constructive About Oil Prices

June 11 at 8:39 am - Link

This is a very clever way to do this. I don't know how effective it will be, but it seems relatively fair. The only argument I can see against it is that new production won't be effective for a period of time. - Peter Kahle

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Aegean Sailing School

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Need to go there, haven't been yet, because it's blocked at work. - Peter Kahle

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Digi-Key Online Catalog

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Great, now I don't need to keep that huge paper catalog sitting around. - Peter Kahle

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Looking into the future ...

June 4 at 8:11 am - Link

The initial article I read this morning, but just picked up the Q&O version, and it's good too, if a bit snarky. - Peter Kahle

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High gas prices promote 'digital nomad' lifestyle | Computerworld Blogs

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Interesting... - Peter Kahle

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Why taxes should be slashed by half | Jamie Whyte - Times Online

May 22 at 6:21 am - Link

Fascinating article with a new perspective on taxes. - Peter Kahle

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Current View

May 14 at 7:16 am - Link

I think I generally agree with this. A divided government is an ineffective government. And to me, that's all good. - Peter Kahle

Gah, this was supposed to refer to the first Tuesday article after his medical info. - Peter Kahle

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Respected in the World! [UPDATED]

May 9 at 8:06 am - Link

The EU criticizing the US for protectionism? Wow... - Peter Kahle

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“@gregkunz nope, FriendFeed doesn't do SMS. It does do Twitter, though, which does SMS.”

May 7 at 9:25 pm - Link

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enjoying friendfeed but doesn't synch on the blackberry for me - PaulJohnson

So, philosophically, should FF do SMS/IM? I'm torn. - Peter Kahle

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No, it should not do SMS. Twitter is a chatter/notifier, so SMS makes sense. FF is an aggegator and is also too noisy to make built-in notifications useful. - Carter Rabasa

i agree with Carter. FF != Twitter. Carter is exaclty right IMO. - acedanger via twhirl

I guess that's all the more reason for a unified friend infrastructure. I want to be friends with the same people on twitter (where I get my IM fix) and FF. But right now, it's all over the place. And when someone joins FF, it'd be nice if I auto-friend them if I'm their friend on twitter (or jaiku, or pownce, etc.) - Peter Kahle

Solution: Twitter's API lets you retrieve your friends/followers. If FF's API allowed creation of imaginary friends programmatically, voila! Instant import, and without the hassle of making your friends sign-up! - Carter Rabasa

I love that Twitter is like the universal SMS api for webapps. If only it worked all the time :) - Alex Gawley

@Carter So, that leads to another question. What happens when an imaginary friend signs up to FF? I'll have to look at the two APIs when I get a chance, see if there's a way to sync the two, and what's missing. - Peter Kahle

they need UI for the iPhone - Dave Hodson

@carter and @peter kahle that sounds a bit like how Socialthing imports everything from everyone using all your services. It's more of an aggregator, and is increasingly annoying. I like the filter of just following the people that I say I want to follow and no one else, regardless of if I'm friends with them elsewhere. Just because a person's my Pownce friend doesn't mean I want them to be my Twitter buddy! I use different services for different things (or personalities, lol). - jon

@jon Agreed, but it could be optional for those that want to. I think that's the secret sauce that FF is perfecting, the ability to give you only what you want (think of the granulatity of their hide feature) - Carter Rabasa

Robert Scoble posted a video on Seesmic

When to use FriendFeed or Twitter?

May 7 at 6:59 pm - Link

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Exactly. Twitter ~ Chatroom, FriendFeed ~ Forum. This is why I'll use both for quite awhile. - Jordan Hofker

I rarely post to Twitter, but when I do, it's typically from my iPhone. If I'm at a computer with a browser, it will always be FF. Then again, I'm someone who still doesn't "get" Twitter that much and have a difficult time following conversations. That's likely my own fault, though. - Vince DeGeorge

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@J What s next one? ChatRoom twitter , forum ff, and....... FASTFOODR i think ; ) - Erhan Erdogan

Twitter is a god. FF will be, once all its minions arrive. There's not enough of my peeps on here to make this fun yet, but the potential is there. - Chad Norman

I agree, great video. - Aaron Myers

The main thing that I like about Twitter is the 140 character limit which forces people to provide a succinct and somewhat precise message which make for interesting and unusual information. I just started using Friend Feed and like it because it aggregates information. Twitter is just plain fun and Friend Feed is a way of organizing all of that fun and then some for info whores like @scobleizer and myself. - James

I've been saying friend feed is to twitter as ESPN is to Baseball. - Sean Reiser via Alert Thingy

I use Twitter for broad discussion and new viewpoints. FriendFeed tends to be more intimate, but with people "like me" - Mike Reynolds

yeah I like that analogy too -- conversations between multiple ppl much easier to come by on FF than Twitter. - Shey

I tend to use whatever is "closest", most times I do post to pownce, and some things just are better as a twit. FF does help bring everything together, I wish more of my contact used it. - Grant Bierman

FF is a mosaic painting that Twitter is a (big) part of. - Michael Dragone

@M.D. I think you are a mosaic painting too, what an aristocratic background you have : ) Nice comment ; ) - Erhan Erdogan

Similar dichotomies have existed before (in Microsoft Exchange, for example, you have email messages vs. threaded conversations in Public Folders), but there's usually some overlap... the interesting thing for me is that Twitter seems to be an acquired taste: at first you're all, "Huh? This is stupid" and then (maybe) you take a real liking to it. Whereas I "got" the idea of FriendFeed right away, I could see the utility, but I haven't taken a real liking to it at all. Twitter is CB Radio. - Karim

ha, info whore - Andrew Smith

I just get overwhelmed with "stuff" on Friendfeed. Half of the content are twitter messages and the rest is stuff that people link to through twitter. The only real reason I have for FF is to read content from friends on other networks, i.e. I Digg, but a friend may Reddit...I still want to read his stuff sometimes...p.s. it does seem easier to have a more indepth conversation here...and I'm seeing lots of comments from people that I don't follow otherwise...so maybe I'll have to take a second look. - Thomas Lopez Jr

I'm pretty new to twitter and ff so its interesting to see how ppl who have been on them for a while use the services. - Nelson de Witt

age on Twitter or wherever and it shows up on FF, ready for commentary. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Apples and Oranges. FF has the broader net. Twitter is the river. I check Twitter more often. FF of course has the visuals. FF needs friend tagging like Pownce has. Actually, Twitter needs friend tagging too. - Jonathan Leavitt

Grr. Try #2 - I dont post to FF as a "first level" channel. I use twitter or whatever and then FF aggregates it for comment. - Soulhuntre via twhirl

Twitter is also *SIMPLE.* Twitter = iPhone, FriendFeed = Windows Mobile. Twitter is from Mars and FriendFeed is from Venus. Twitter is a hot dog and FriendFeed is escalopes de veau a l'estragon avec endives gratineed with cheese. - Karim

Ya know, I'm just jumping into the FF field, but it looks to me like you've nailed it. The most frustrating thing about Twitter for me is that it's like a chat room where you can't always see all the posts (if I'm not following the other half of a conversation); the FF layout solves some of that, as I don't need to be subscribed to everyone to see their comments. - Tim Glinatsis

friendfeed is the new irc...with a splash of rss - steveo

FriendFeed is from Mars, Twitter is from Venus. http://tinyurl.com/59rzyk - Hutch Carpenter

LOL Hutch, I stand corrected. A well-thought-out analysis you have there. It would be fascinating to compare male/female usage ratios of Twitter vs. FriendFeed. Are structured, threaded, hierarchical conversations from Mars, and free-form chats from Venus? Interesting question... - Karim

@Karim - thanks! There are differences between the two services, and I think the organization around content in FriendFeed creates some real differences with Twitter. Twitter is organized around the person you're talking to. - Hutch Carpenter

Interesting view of Twitter and Friendfeed. But how do you handle messages that you want to get via SMS? - Ryo

I share on Google Reader, update on Twitter, post on Blogger... FriendFeed catches it all as a nice archive (that I use to create a weekly/monthly newsletter for clients). I don't have the big community following so the commenting feature is not such a benefit. If/when I do get more conversations going, then I can see FriendFeed becoming more important. Twitter is more of an echo chamber when it comes to conversation. - Joining Dots

After watching this Post I will be using FriendFeed much more effectively and therefore Twitter less. - Brad Nix

I'm doing that already without being prompted, here provide's a very addictive source of information flow and discussion! - Joe Dawson

Does no one view Twitter as a lifestreaming microblogging service anymore? I realize that as a practical matter, it is chatty, but that doesn't need to define it. I do agree, tho, FF is more like a forum, without all the BS, which I like. - rambn

if it weren't for twitterfeed.com and the AIM option I'd never post to Twitter - jon

twitter is like IRC - FF more like blog/wiki/forums - interesting video clip! - Jeroen De Miranda

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“I wish when you blocked someone on Twitter they disappeared from Google Talk too.”

May 7 at 8:36 pm - Link

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I find that the easiest way to deal with this is just to take a hit out on the jerk. - Kyle Sellers

I agree: 1-888-KIL-TWIT - Shey

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I didn't expect you would block anyone. What does one need to do to get blocked by Scoble? - Louis Gray

that would be a very god tool, a multiple service blocking client :=) - Luigi Centenaro

Universal Twitlist? FiendFeed! - Ashton

blocking someone not only on twitter, but on all other services - one should build something like a friendfeed for blocking people (unfriendfeed?) - sdfx

This may be an argument for the federated twitter-alike service that people have talked about lately. - Peter Kahle

I love how popular any activities of the scoble gets. He just need to type something & boom, there are many comments. - Nikpay

I wish I could too, Some people just dont get it - suavenyc72

It'd be interesting to have a meta service where you register your identity and the networks your on and maintained a friendlist there - it would automatically sync friends across all networks. Hook it up with OpenID, perhaps. - felix

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“Open FriendFeed call. Who is on FriendFeed who I have NOT subscribed to yet? You know how to let me know.”

May 7 at 7:40 pm - Link

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I'm not sure if this is how I let you know, but I'm here and super new to this. - Johnny Baker

You're not following me, yet. ;-) - Jordan Hofker

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You are not following me yet... I am open to be converted :-) - bankwatch

Robert Scoble is not subscribed to me - Shey

I don't think you are following me... - elroy via twhirl

You're not following me http://friendfeed.com/merrycri... - Mary Wehrle

I have yet to be microscobelized. - Sean O

How can I find out if you've subscribed to my FriendFeed? - Lawrence Liu via twhirl

According to the little bubble, not me. Even though you said the other day I was being added to the World Wide Talk Show. ;-) Oops, can't press Enter for a newline. What I was going to say, prior to the Post button getting unexpectedly pressed, is that I cannot imagine following 20,000 (or even some fraction of that) on FF. It's gotta be tough as it is on Twitter. - Joanmarie

Guessing that comments are the way to let you know :) - Jed White

Not following me! - brian junyor

I'm on both FF and twitter. :) http://friendfeed.com/oheresy - Beau Liening

I just joined FF because of you - Louis Bourque

Scobleize me. - Scott Edward Anderson

You're quick. Thanks for the follow. - Jordan Hofker

Letting you know. :-) - Ray Grieselhuber

someone said this was the line for the cattle call? - Marco (aureliusmaximus)

Never mind. I can see ur FF subscriptions on ur FF webpage. Ur already sub'd to my FF. :-) - Lawrence Liu via twhirl

also all comment owners in here; add the others at the list : ) this is a may 8th; human feed day! ; ) - Erhan Erdogan

You are not following me yet. Ready for Scobleization. - Michael Pardee

http://friendfeed.com/digidigo - David Clements

Present. You're not following me on FF yet. - Oliver Ortega Chua

OK, it took me a disturbingly long time to figure out how to see IF you were following me, but I believe you are not. - Elisa Camahort Page

Aye! - cmiper

You're not following me with your software but you're following me with your subconscious. - Akiva Moskovitz

You aren't following me on FF yet. And I'm friends with Corvida! lol - Phil (scribkin)

You should be following me on FF and Twitter. I'm hurt Robert. Very hurt. - MikeonTV

http://friendfeed.com/jasonbez... - Jason Bezerra

I have not be Scobleized. - Stanton Champion

[watching as Scoblization Ray passes overhead] My God, it's full of blogs -- - Karim

You're not following me, but I understand because people who do frequently get lost. ;) - Michael Dragone

I'm soo ronery ;)...http://friendfeed.com/lebard - Jeremy

I think you just found a way to unite FriendFeeders. Lots of new people to follow now :) - Shey

Wow you're fast! Truly a blogging god among men/women. - Stanton Champion

oooo ooo mr Kottah! mr. Kottah! you're not following me. ;) - Sean Reiser

Last time I checked you weren't following me :) - Larry Rubin

not subscribed to me yet - ben bloch

okay...sign me up...and, thanks for shopping - Michael

http://friendfeed.com/gcn - Gabriel N.

You are not subscribed to me on FF yet - Jeff

whell while ur at it - Mrinal Wadhwa via Alert Thingy

Sent mine to ya on Twitter... - Jason Nielubowicz

Mee https://friendfeed.com/vialls - Steve Tunstall

http://friendfeed.com/trancemi... - TranceMist

Always enjoy your posts, Robert. I'm http://friendfeed.com/brentnew... - Brent Newhall

I'm http://friendfe